❓〡questions

[lethal jacinth]

Planning to get ring , who to put it on ? Should I switch who has horn

[autumn wren]

You should def put horn on ZL. Joan already has a fast cycle being the support tree.

and put the ring with ZL too

[lethal jacinth]

Oops my archer stuff should be on qsh instead does it make a difference

[cunning oar]

horn is 'less a must' on it

[warped heart]

Questionable archer gear craft priority

[torn pewter]

What's the best talent tree for sun

[short hollow]

Where do I report media bugs and/or graphical glitches?

[warped heart]

https://discord.com/channels/474739462589382667/479118371821191168

[cunning oar]

#🌟〡commanders message

[dawn otter]

300gh's after kvk1 are good??

[drowsy orchid]

Is okay i have 200 37d in

[candid shard]

Do we have an idea of when the new comms come out?

Will they be alongisde the first pop of "Song of Troy" or later?

[cunning oar]

they should announce soon, with the skills

[languid garden]

should I go to vip 10 now, or wait for mtg

[cunning oar]

how far u are

[languid garden]

60k

gems

[candid shard]

Thanks.

[terse hamlet]

In what season can Achilles and Hector be used?

[steep jay]

Will swap event reappear, like every year for soc players?

[arctic slate]

aethfield primary with ysg u think 30/30/30 troop type or 90% archers ? in terms of tankiness and dmg which one is u like ?

[candid shard]

100% archers imo

splitting trooptypes isn't my specialty but surely it just slows ur march to oblivion and ruins arnaments/equipment stat values

Rather full focus arnaments and equipment for archer stats and run full archers than split it 30 30 30

[sly sinew]

New codes ?

[fluid flicker]

So if someone is not playing song on Troi wont get it?

[cunning oar]

This is the only information they gave, you have to wait

[fluid flicker]

Okay thanks anyway

[autumn wren]

For now no, they haven't confirmed if the commander swap is a yearly thing or not. All we know currently is it's a one time event. However, they mentioned on the anniv stream that it's possible for it to come back, but nothing was confirmed.

[fluid flicker]

It would be great if it come honestly 🤣

[autumn wren]

Most appear on the live streams, but they expire after so you have to catch em when they are live. You can follow #💻〡redeem․codes, but nothing is really posted in there.

[steep jay]

Would love to, got an expertised Nev and huo to swap, those 2 new comms would be better if I can do it

[arctic slate]

yeah same idea but you wont get aeth talent stuff dmg and tankiness

[fringe turret]

Which armament inscription is better for qsh?

[autumn wren]

Artisan

Wedge formation + that would be 8% extra skill dmg total

[trim valley]

Is it KvK locked?

[terse mason]

No

Like ragnar p

[cunning oar]

most likely no

[trim valley]

kk thx

[languid garden]

Hello, as a new player, should I not touch equipment at all?

Since I don't seem to have the blueprints for the purple/orange ones

[fickle ore]

In what world do we use aethel primary

[arctic slate]

in world when u bored and want to try archer as f2p for fun

[fickle ore]

Yk making aethel and ysg primary costs the same right?

[arctic slate]

since herman is single target u only left with aeth

[fickle ore]

If u gonna use a cursed march atleast use ysg primary bruh

[arctic slate]

yeah but who u gona use second ?

[fickle ore]

Aethel

💔🥀

Since that seems to be your preference

[arctic slate]

her main wont give u more dps in skil dmg ? 👀

[frosty swallow]

getting focus + worst talent tree

[fickle ore]

Who cares when ur whole talent tree is trash😭

[arctic slate]

make sense

chatgpt played with me 💔

[cunning oar]

ig better tree is better

[arctic slate]

😂

[frosty swallow]

never ask advice to him

[true sorrel]

achillies is a cav combo commander with circle aoe you guess lol

[languid garden]

chatgpt told me to max aeth with gold heads so i did

is that bad

[frosty swallow]

U can't do it lol

[keen star]

i got it

[true sorrel]

is spending gems on dig a bad idea

[languid garden]

was a joke bruh ik chatgpt is bad for a lot of things

[torn egret]

kvk3 and beyond

[torn egret]

barbs

[white remnant]

ive got 5515 huo and 5551 arthur, which one should i 5555 first?

[eternal folio]

Arthur

[cloud mesa]

When will the spend 50k gems event be available?

[smoky kayak]

shiuld i be hoarding speed ups

[rancid merlin]

are leadership commanders viable early game?
(new player and im wondering should i use leadership cav or infantry and i really want to use leadership)

[cunning oar]

only relevant one is Aeth, u use her if u want infantry

and run Sun/Aeth, for cavs, u can run Baibars/Sun

[rancid merlin]

i was thinking ragnar aeth or ragnar sun

[spark elk]

ragnar isnt good

dont use

[rancid merlin]

alr thanks

[languid garden]

Is it better to save ap refills for lohar, or strategic reserve + mge points?

11 day old kingdom, first time strategic reserve

[spark elk]

how do you play on 2 accounts that are linked to the same email without an emulator like bluestacks?

[smoky kayak]

should i be hoarding speed ups

[white remnant]

any reason why?

[mighty viper]

It’s a newer commander and will likely stay viable for longer

[white remnant]

ty

[potent vale]

There must be a limit to the amount of AP bottles you can get per week or something here ?

[warped heart]

There is? I didn't see a difference

[potent vale]

I haven't received AP here for a few days now 🤔

We do 2 GC per day

[cunning oar]

they added a weekly cap, but I don't remember how much it is

this has been going on for a while

[warped heart]

Dayum I didn't know

[cunning oar]

have this, but not sure if the numbers hold up

[warped lark]

Guys i have 35m power want to migrate to new kingdom how to find one for kvk3? Or kvk2

[warped heart]

Depends if you can migrate to kvk3 due to migration rules

[warped lark]

Where can I migrate to?

[warped heart]

I don't know, check if you meet the requirement by picking a kingdom and see

[warped lark]

Okay bro thanks

[young kestrel]

That’s cooked

wtf

[turbid ledge]

best 4/5 marches for kvk1? Ive looked at the spreadsheet already and I'm thinking CM/YSG (CM is already 5411 and not had any of his mge yet) Mina/ CC (both are expertise) phyrrus/sun Tzu (phyrrus will be expertise from dailies and ST already exp. What should my other marches be?? Or just focus on other things?

[teal kelp]

Cc is shit

And as to what else to run, look at the spreadsheet..?

[turbid ledge]

so who do I replace cc with baibars?

[teal kelp]

Yea

[turbid ledge]

the spreadsheet combos have nothing else rlly than those commanders it looked like basically every other pairing used one of those

worth making a cc/belisarius for speed?

[teal kelp]

No

[teal kelp]

Look over far right

Has multiple march setups

[turbid ledge]

oh damn my bad

thutmose that worth it?

[torn egret]

yes

if ur gonna use ysg

[teal kelp]

Yea

[turbid ledge]

wwow better with ysg him or CM?

who's*

[main blade]

I have just returned to the game and have a targeted immigration for my return to a more recent realm. I am currently in realm 3157 and have the option of going to realm 3847, 3850, or 3869. Which one is the best to join? I have 5M power.

[turbid ledge]

hhonestly just restart 5m power is fairly easy in less than a month f2p

[main blade]

And I heard that you can't do jumps anymore. Is that true?

[mighty viper]

Correct

[sharp totem]

Only if you wanna farm kill

[autumn wren]

If you have him maxed with proper gear, thutmose. Cm though if you don't

Sun/ysg to be safe if u dont have a proper cm either

[jagged steppe]

i bought the daily treassure bundle thinking i would get richard, it showed me a tab that said i could obtain him on sunday, that tab is no longer anywhere in the shop, how come?

this is all i got in the mail and i do infact have him picked

[fluid flicker]

What you think Hector will be usable for?

[warped heart]

How Philip is used for, but let's see his skillset first to know if he's good or not

[teal kelp]

According to the announcement, probably as a general purpose secondary field commander

[fluid flicker]

I Heard Philip is quite usable especially for whales

[fluid flicker]

Mhm i am curious if he will be good

[jagged steppe]

The crickets are telling me no one knows

[warped heart]

@mighty viper

[mighty musk]

How to get all commanders?

[teal kelp]

Events n shit

[mighty musk]

So no need to join kvk?

[teal kelp]

Kvk is literally the only fun thing about the game

[fluid flicker]

Wheel of fortune, and some more events

[mighty musk]

I see ty

[mighty musk]

😭

But why I can't get the commanders on the golden chest

[jagged steppe]

who this?

[warped heart]

Best restarter

[jagged steppe]

restarter?

[mighty viper]

Huh?

[warped heart]

@mighty viper help this poor man

[mighty viper]

I don’t spend, how would I know?

[jagged steppe]

The hell's a restarter?

[warped heart]

Your suppose to be that one person who knows every nook and cranny in early game

[mighty viper]

I’m not omnipotent

[fluid flicker]

Restart the game/you create your new charakter

[jagged steppe]

so bassically a person that loves to just restart the game from the begining over and over?

[mighty viper]

And then people look down on you and call your a “restarter” or claims you have “Cronic Restart Syndrome”

[teal kelp]

You do have chronic restart syndrome

[warped heart]

Master is the best restarter in here

[fluid flicker]

People who fvcked up at the beginning need to restart because they will be too weak

[warped heart]

He's our best player

[mighty viper]

Buddy I haven’t done a restart in over a year

[jagged steppe]

i feel like this is less about answering my problem and more about talking abt restarters

[warped heart]

Zman's finally in soc

[fluid flicker]

I didn’t do single restart i am saving my account heh

[mighty viper]

Oh it probably is, because people love to shit on those not in the “great and glorious” SOC

[teal kelp]

Woah

I’m proud of you

[mighty viper]

Why do you lie to me?

[fluid flicker]

What’s your problem?

[teal kelp]

No lies

[jagged steppe]

this

[mighty viper]

Find that information here https://discord.com/channels/1031515159627300924/1314706351401730170

Join “The Kings Codex” server

[rose narwhal]

Open the chests it'll give u his sculptures

When u buy the daily offer the commander heads are inside of the chests

Unless I missunderstood

[mighty viper]

Yes that’s how it randomizes the number it gives you

[rose narwhal]

Pretty much yes

[jagged steppe]

is it a problem if i only gained one head when i oppened them last night aka when i bought it

[rose narwhal]

Average experience

[jagged steppe]

i feel like this game is targeted to make people addicted to buying and gambling sometimes

[rose narwhal]

Tbh being truthful that's just bad luck

[rose narwhal]

Pretty much sometimes ye

I mean I wouldn't say it's hard on gambling because u have milestones in the egg and wheel event that assure u some rewards so there's that

[urban sedge]

why can’t i use s3 commanders in olimpia?

[drowsy orchid]

Anybody have screenshot on best gesr for infsntry archer and cav to use champions of olympia

[real coyote]

Best Cavarly March KvK 1 for F2P

[cunning oar]

baibars/sun tzu

[rose narwhal]

I figure you're in KvK 3 ye?

[sudden charm]

Can you buy a comander you want?

[rose narwhal]

U can spin the wheel or get MGE but u can't buy unless u buy from daily offers ig

[sudden charm]

yeee i gues.. I have always wanted the spartin hero for a long time but never gotten strong enough to get him

[sudden charm]

Where is the wheele exactly

[rose narwhal]

It's an event

[rose narwhal]

Which one?

[sudden charm]

Leonidas I

[rose narwhal]

Oh that one

He's ass but anyway he should be on dailies

[sudden charm]

oooh ok

[jagged steppe]

what's the best pair for Aethelflaed?

[rose narwhal]

Sun Tzu

ST / Aeth

[pearl monolith]

Is it worth to stop building buildings and save them to go all out on MGE? If I have enough speed ups? Most of my buildings are lvl 24 and it’s just production buildings that need to be leveled

[rose narwhal]

Participate in what exactly? And just cause you're Russian doesn't mean you'll get treated badly

[rose narwhal]

I'd wait yes, does your KD fix MGEs tho?

[pearl monolith]

Sometimes they do, sometimes not, they do announce it though

[rose narwhal]

Actually no,don't wait, keep pushing everything to 25

U need farms and all to level 25 so at least do that to keep progressing your account

U just need one at L25 tho, y can keep the other 3 at 24 if u so wish, but that won't win u an MGE

[pearl monolith]

ok thanks

[rose narwhal]

Yw

[vernal moat]

Is the twilight falls skin only a exclusive kvk 1 skin or will it show up in other kvks too?

[rose narwhal]

It will show in SOC shop

KVK rankings I can't say fs

K1-3 deffo doesn't show up again

But once you reach SOC u can obtain it

Will take u a while as it's not gonna be your main priority for a while but u can get it later on to answer your question

[novel blaze]

uh why do people keep T4 troops why don't they upgrade them to t5

Also when should I switch civilizations

I'm at ch 18rn

Abt to be 19

[rose narwhal]

It's easier to train T4 than T5 and then convert

Takes less time and less rss

So u train T4 and during events u make them t5

[novel blaze]

So if I train R4 now I shouldn't convert them?

[rose narwhal]

When u reach 25

[rose narwhal]

Well you're pretty far off T5 so u can't but yeah in principle u train T4 every day and during events upgrade

[novel blaze]

Primarily what kinda events

[rose narwhal]

Whatever u choose to push

[novel blaze]

Hbu

[rose narwhal]

Zenith, MGE, Pre KvK, 20 GHs and whatever other I might've forgotten

[novel blaze]

I see

uh if I wanna go for a permenant skin in zenith

let's say around how much I have to spend

[rose narwhal]

Pfffff

Depends on your region

30M is usually safe unless your region is on steroids

40M will get u the next zenith skin 100% tho (cause of the shop yk)

[novel blaze]

30m converted troops or gems

[rose narwhal]

30M power

[novel blaze]

Oh and also why do people get T4 sieges in later stages

All my sieges r T1 rn

[rose narwhal]

For an engineering march

[rose narwhal]

Keep them like that for now

Later on there's commanders u can use siege with and they shoot and stuff

They're pretty OP

[novel blaze]

oh I see

[rose narwhal]

But u need gear, the GHs and the siege lol

[novel blaze]

then why don't people get t5sieges?

[rose narwhal]

Some do others don't

[novel blaze]

Is it worth going for T5?

[rose narwhal]

They may be doing T4s and then upgrade to T5

[novel blaze]

Ic

[rose narwhal]

But T5 are costy on RSS and it can backfire pretty badly, but it also can be the best decision you've ever taken

Depends on how your KD fights

[rose narwhal]

Siege or in general?

[novel blaze]

sieges

[rose narwhal]

If ur KD can hold a ball long enough yeah for sure

People pull 50M+ a report w it sometimes, tho not everyone, it's doable if your march and KD are good enough

[novel blaze]

Also for kvk 1 when Im still using sun Tzu do I go for ysg or aeth I'm low-mid spender

[rose narwhal]

How many GH u have?

[novel blaze]

5 Xd

[rose narwhal]

Aeth 💔

[novel blaze]

but it's not near that phase yet

[rose narwhal]

And save your GHs 😭

[novel blaze]

If I want to save for ysg I still can

I have around 120days still

[rose narwhal]

You won't have enough for YSG to be good enough most likely

[novel blaze]

Plus I'm planning to migrate

alright then

What do I use my golden heads on

Alexander?

[rose narwhal]

What

KvK 1 starts at like day 90

Is your KD brand new?

[novel blaze]

kinda

So what do I use gh for

like in kvk 1 and possibly 2

Alexander?

[rose narwhal]

Save for now

If ur KD is brand new evaluate before KvK 1

[novel blaze]

should I js try get Martel skill maxed then save?

[rose narwhal]

I'd wait before KvK 1 and see then tbh

[novel blaze]

I see alright

is there any more tips?

[rose narwhal]

More like a question how old is your kingdom

[novel blaze]

16 days

but the kd I'm planning to migrate to

Is at like day 2rn

[rose narwhal]

U can only go back up to 10 days

[novel blaze]

3932 to 3938

uh around there

[rose narwhal]

But yeah you're good then, push vip as much as u can and evaluate before KvK 1

[novel blaze]

Yk for like the VIP shop

The 8hour speedups for 240 gems

Is it worth?

[rose narwhal]

I wouldn't do it unless you're gonna spend to make up the amount of gems you've spent and even so I'm not sure I would do it

Not until you're like vip 10 if it's early enough

[novel blaze]

I see

Is 5511 mina worth going for?

I'm contemplating so hard

[rose narwhal]

It's alright not the best not the worst, usable

[jagged steppe]

why did they give scipio such a cool design only for him to be an ahh epic commander

[rose narwhal]

U have Scipio prime in SOC and he's got a pretty cool design but he's about the last skill damage march there is paired with Ragnar, so may get benched at some point depends on how new commanders go

[jagged steppe]

What's SOC?

[rose narwhal]

Season of Conquest

KvK 3 onwards

[novel blaze]

Sparky

[rose narwhal]

sOvereign

[novel blaze]

Yk how js now I asked is the 8hr speedup worth buying

[rose narwhal]

Yh

[novel blaze]

Ye I primarily use it on the buildings that needs to be upgraded for the ch or the acedemy

So is it justified?

[rose narwhal]

I wouldn't say so

What's your vip?

[novel blaze]

8

[rose narwhal]

U ideally wanna push vip 12 ASAP before KvK, by when u have that those speeds will have no use tho most probably

[novel blaze]

I bought the 30day gem pack for 50-%

[novel blaze]

I see

[rose narwhal]

Into vip I'd say tbh

[novel blaze]

if I wanna p2w is there any bundles U recommend me buying?

[quick island]

I have a question

[rose narwhal]

Kings coronation for starters

[quick island]

How is the mechanism of sculpture rewards in path of vengeance?

[rose narwhal]

Gem supply, Lucerne

Gear supply I personally find VERY useful

[novel blaze]

Is it really value tho it's js speedups and some rss

[rose narwhal]

About SVB I can't say tho

[rose narwhal]

The 3 first tiers were super valuable for me, however I do fail to see the value on it for the 50 and 100 bucks tiers, maybe I'm too poor to see through it

[novel blaze]

100bucks?? Dayum

[rose narwhal]

I did buy them and anyway it just felt like it fell off for me, but don't take my word on this one

[novel blaze]

That can get my family 2 fancy meals here where I'm living

I could have a BBQ buffet

🤤

[rose narwhal]

Yeah bundles such as KC and all the SVB ones go 5 - 10 - 20 - 50 - 100 if I'm not mistaken

[quick island]

Can someone answer this?

[novel blaze]

Alr I'm prolly not gonna spend that much

[rose narwhal]

U mean the rewards u get from the vengeance levels?

[quick island]

Sculpture

[rose narwhal]

What's your budget if I may ask?

[quick island]

What sculpture will I get

[novel blaze]

uhm I'm willing to spend 4.99 per bundle

[rose narwhal]

Pretty sure it's random

[novel blaze]

but if it's rlly worth

Id pay more

[rose narwhal]

Nobody really knows that much about vengeance

[novel blaze]

like the gem thing U get 44k for when U reach city 25

[rose narwhal]

Do first 3 tiers of KC then, gem supply and Lucerne for now

[quick island]

Have u tried? Do u get any legendary sculpture?

[rose narwhal]

Growth fund yeah, I bought it when I got to CH 25 just do my dumbass wouldn't overspend on a wheel :D

[novel blaze]

300+ onwards u get a 5k exp book 1k and silver key and on the 5 or 10th stage U get a epic sculpture I'm pretty sure

[rose narwhal]

I'd save that for later personally

[quick island]

I thought it's randomly from commander that I have

[rose narwhal]

No idea, Zman may know that, but for all I know vengeance remains a rather unknown event, the rewards u get based on heads are also unknown as in what pattern u get (I think)

[quick island]

If that's true, it must be saved for mid/late game

Oh

Alright

[rose narwhal]

I'm pretty sure it disappears at some point

But don't take my word for that one

[novel blaze]

Well that's the sequence I get

uh sparky so how should I spend that 44k once I get it

[quick island]

So must wait till I get legendary? Or just aim for my sun tzu?

I made a new acc btw

[novel blaze]

legendary what gh or commanders?

[rose narwhal]

We'll see then, mostly would go for vip or egg if you're really lacking because u spent everything in vip

[novel blaze]

egg?

What's egg

[rose narwhal]

I spent most of mine on egg

[rose narwhal]

Holy knight treasure

Uhhh so like

[novel blaze]

What's that

;-;

[quick island]

If this true, then commander

[novel blaze]

What's Ur vengeance lvl

[quick island]

4

[novel blaze]

Dayum son

[rose narwhal]

U have an egg, u pick a blueprint on it, and for 2.4K gems u do 5 pulls, then u have X milestones u get BP chests on

[novel blaze]

ye rn my pattern is that

[rose narwhal]

It's a pretty decent gear event

[novel blaze]

Ahh

I see

[rose narwhal]

(best actually)

[quick island]

Why? I just don't wanna progress further without knowing

[novel blaze]

Is worth progressing regardless

When U have nothing to do

like Ur troops r farming and Ur buildings r upgrading

[quick island]

So no need to wait to have legendary commander?

[novel blaze]

there's no downside

[novel blaze]

Ofc not

[quick island]

Okay thx

[novel blaze]

Js focus on sun tzu

And depending on Ur stages

Since Ur pretty new

Go for the purple viking guy not lohar using the omniarch commander lvling up strat if U don't know I can send it to u

[rose narwhal]

Go for aeth

Don't do bjorn

Plz 🥀

[novel blaze]

I'm doing Bjorn rn since he's pretty maxed for me

And my aeth is 3

3000

Xd

[rose narwhal]

Understandable then

But Sun Aeth will mostly outperform Bjorn Sun

[novel blaze]

yup

will do well thanks for Ur knowledge kind sir

[rose narwhal]

Ye so for a new player Sun Aeth is the better option

[rose narwhal]

happy to help

[jagged steppe]

Is KvK as fun as people make it sound? My kingdoms first KvK starts in like 2 months and i wanna know if i should be hyped or not

[rose narwhal]

KvK 1 may be a bit boring depending on your enemies but SOC KvKs are fun

Tbh it depends on how your kingdoms are

In my first KvK 1 we had non stop fight every ruin and zone

There was betrayal and then reconciliation, then more fights, it was very fun

[jagged steppe]

wish i could time travel 2 months into the future

[rose narwhal]

Mehhh I'm sure it'll be fun

As long as y'all are able to balance it

[odd plank]

How do I find a kingdom to migrate too on here

[rose narwhal]

#1250017362741039206 #1250004070094340126

[loud fossil]

with Hectors skills just revealed would it technically possible to run Phillip / Hector as a open field mixed march??

[pure crypt]

why are we always in a situation where our opponents are better than us? in the orisirs chest event, This is the 5th consecutive game we have had like this in the last 4 months. this is a very bad experience because this is a fair mode so being constantly bettered like this is very annoying #ark of osiris

[warm garnet]

Arthur works for barbarians forts or no?

[autumn wren]

Works fine with huo primary

[autumn wren]

No one can answer that. Other than maybe swapping to a more populated time zone so you have more possibilities of matches.

[cunning oar]

barb forts counts as 'field troop' and 'troop on the map'

[warm garnet]

Ok thanks

[pure crypt]

ok thanks

[smoky kayak]

should I be hoarding speed ups in at CH10 and today is day 3 of kingdom

[novel blaze]

Depends

If U wanna be stronger now and then hinder Ur progress

But it's only a little bit

But if U save now then later U will be slower

But if U save U could go for zenith mge

but it will be hard

[jagged steppe]

is Martel + Phyrrus a good combo for inf until i get richard?

silence's a yes

[lyric moth]

Anyone have a barb fort tree for æthelflæd?

[rose narwhal]

silence wonders why would richard be mentioned on a pvp march

[jagged steppe]

Silence cannot think or speak for otherwise it would break its own concept now innit

[rose narwhal]

cant help but read that with a brit accent ngl

[jagged steppe]

I'm british socrates trust

[sturdy hound]

Can someone explain what it means when it says same immigration season not supported?

[mighty viper]

You can’t immigrate from within the same season

[sturdy hound]

Do you know when nascent ends?

[mild field]

Why I can just recruit one golden hero in the Taverne ?

[cunning oar]

at start of kd u just have 1, after 7 days or so unlock the rest

[mild field]

Oh god

This new stuff

[vernal moat]

Is the twilight city skin exclusive for kvk 1 or does it show up in other kvks?

[mental walrus]

shows up in soc shop for 650k season coins

[high prawn]

how much head ı need for full minomoto

[agile token]

Yo what commanders are good for kvk1?

[torn egret]

how many speedups usually for zenith?

[mental walrus]

pins

[mental walrus]

max bundle

~$200

[mental walrus]

depends on many factors

[high prawn]

somuch for minomoto ah

[mental walrus]

yup

[tepid path]

Based on the info we have right now, what is likely to be the new best cav march

[mighty viper]

Look at the pinned spreadsheet

[rose narwhal]

Anyway yeah CM / Phyrus it's okay but u need a lot of investment for it to be worth it

And whether u choose it or not (I would not, not at the start personally), I would not swap any of them for Richard, Richard CM is a horrendously bad march

[tepid path]

was it updated

im not seeing ach on here

[vernal moat]

whats the difference between SOC and kvk?

[mighty viper]

SOC is KVK4+

[vernal moat]

i see

[jagged steppe]

i heard it was a tanky march

[rose narwhal]

It is but it's fucking ass

When you're getting swarmed you're gonna get mad fucked

[jagged steppe]

[rose narwhal]

And for it to be even relatively tanky it needs T5, and u need your enemies to be walking trashcans really, most of the time you're gonna get swarmed and deleted in 10 seconds max

[lone crystal]

Guys is 16% at 7.5% defense and 24% health OK for kvk3?

Infantry btw

[rose narwhal]

Show gear please

[jagged steppe]

goddamn i didnt know it was that ass

[tepid path]

well if anybody got ideas of next cav meta march tell meh

[rose narwhal]

It is lol

[jagged steppe]

so then what IS a good inf march for early game?

[rose narwhal]

Sun Aeth or if u really want Martel 5515 (for nearly max potential due to counterattack buff) and Sun

Or Martel YSG 5515 as well at least, tho for what regards YSG, you're better off expertising imo, but if u don't wanna run Aeth its in there, problem w YSG 5515 is that it doesn't justify the cost of GHs imo

[jagged steppe]

[mighty viper]

Sun/Aeth

[rose narwhal]

You don't have circle AOE but u have +40% skill damage if it comes to that

Tho I wouldn't really do that over CM

CM Sun w counterattack buff is js OP asf

Even more if u exp both CM and YSG that's a fucking wall

[agile token]

Is bjorn with sun a good duo?

[mighty viper]

It’s very mid

[rose narwhal]

Sun Aeth is better

[agile token]

Dam

I have aeth at lvl 1

[rose narwhal]

Upgrade her then

Gonna outperform Bjorn Sun

[agile token]

Aeth build?

[rose narwhal]

And she's more useful than Bjorn later on too anyway if we get bitchy about AP and barbs

[jagged steppe]

i wouldnt really call YSG early game since early game is before KvK 1 (aka 0-90 days) and YSG is released in the wheel of fortune in day 94🤓

[agile token]

Can somebody send me one?

[rose narwhal]

She's secondary talents don't matter

[rose narwhal]

Early game is KvK 1 and before or so tho

[mighty viper]

Peacekeeping treee

[agile token]

No?

[agile token]

Nahhh

[jagged steppe]

that's what i said twin

[rose narwhal]

As Zman said peacekeeping

[rose narwhal]

Twin KvK 1 is part of early game

[mighty viper]

Yep, you’ll only use her as primary for peacekeeping

[jagged steppe]

My hypothesis seems to be incorrect, i am at fault

[rose narwhal]

It's alright, but yeah I wouldn't use YSG unless u exp anyway

5515 wouldn't justify the usage of GH

Stick w Martel Sun imp

Imp

Imo

[jagged steppe]

when you say w counterattack do you mean the passive skill "Martel's Counterattack"

[rose narwhal]

Yes I think that's the name

The 4th skill should be the counterattack one if I'm not mistaken

[jagged steppe]

Alright

[rose narwhal]

U can use Sun Martel at 5511 or so but atp u may be better off doing sun Aeth anyway

If I were u I would wait before KvK 1 and if u can 5515 Martel then run him, if not stick w Sun Aeth

[crystal prairie]

Where can I reverify my account guyz🤔

[mighty viper]

Sounds like something you need to contact support for. Contact them in game

[jagged steppe]

So i should max out his 4th skill for maximum efficiency?

[rose narwhal]

Yes

Martel at 5515 is good because of the counterattack, if u don't have that your reports won't be as good, and you're better off running another damage commander instead

And his 3rd skill is garrison sooo pray or buy 30 skill resets

[agile token]

I leveled up aeth up to 35

How do i spend the points?

[mighty viper]

Full yellow tree

[agile token]

Full yellow?

[mighty viper]

Yes

[agile token]

Hope y all don’t mess up with me 😭

[mighty viper]

Go all the way to the end

[rose narwhal]

A Tome wouldn't mess with you lol

[jagged steppe]

Martel 5515... noted, what about Sun? 5511?

[rose narwhal]

Let alone the guy who leads the restart community

[rose narwhal]

Sun exp

It's easy u can deff do it

[mighty viper]

Exp.

[agile token]

I have sun 5-5-5-5

Is that good or bad

[mighty viper]

This is the bare minimum lol

[jagged steppe]

wdym by exp

[rose narwhal]

Expertise

[mighty viper]

5555

[rose narwhal]

5555 with the extra skill activated

[mighty viper]

Yep

[jagged steppe]

i currently have him at lvl 30 and 5522 so i guess i should work on him

[mighty viper]

Yes

[rose narwhal]

Yep u should, but you'll be there pretty easily anyway

Epic heads and tomes are ez to get

[jagged steppe]

dont even joke lad

[agile token]

Aeth skills? I only have the first at 3

[mighty viper]

Eventually you’ll have more than you need

[rose narwhal]

I'm not

[mighty viper]

Get the first two to 5

[agile token]

5-5-1-1?

[mighty viper]

Yes

[agile token]

Okay guys thanks

I appreciate it

[mighty viper]

You’re welcome

[jagged steppe]

btw is this a good martel build?

[jagged steppe]

The crickets are louder than the answers

The non existant answers.

[rose narwhal]

Tbh I personally have no idea so

[mighty viper]

Same lol

[jagged steppe]

Fair enough

[languid garden]

should I ignore crafting equipment until I know what im doing?

im in new kingdom, don't have the legendary/orange crafts available yet

[spark elk]

Just look at pins at #🌟〡gear

[languid garden]

will do

[teal kelp]

its martel, his damage is mid regardless, especially for a f2p lol

[leaden plaza]

unless yeah you wanna learn whats good and not so good to craft

pins contain bare minimum ideally for each kvk, and how your gear should progress

overtime

[wraith yoke]

I’m looking for d seed kingdom does anyone know where to find one?

[mighty viper]

Have you tried #1250004070094340126?

[rose narwhal]

Or #1250017362741039206

[wraith yoke]

no luck

[lilac magnet]

Should I focus on training only one troop more than other troops?

[vast ruin]

Which is better?

[humble quiver]

Defence over attack

[vast ruin]

Thx, btw for kvk 2 do the Armour pieces change from the kvk shop?

Kr whatever its called

[humble quiver]

Depends if whale

[humble quiver]

Don’t know

[vast ruin]

Bc want to get this

Idk what the shop is called

Not the soc one

[humble quiver]

If whale then you can do whatever I guess

[lilac magnet]

How can i know when a new server will be added in the game? I want to be strongest as possible in that server

[vast ruin]

Oh lost kanyan

[humble quiver]

You don’t know. It’s a random time

[vast ruin]

Canyon* does it change or smth?

[lilac magnet]

What kvk even mean

[uncut bone]

kings versus kings

it's like MGE but you have to select a king to fight the other king and put equipment on him and give him rss to fight the other king

or similar to sunset canyon

[teal kelp]

[teal kelp]

Why is you trolling

[uncut bone]

less competition in soc

and by the time he realizes his mistakes he will restart

[lilac magnet]

Bruh

[potent vale]

So if next Cav is Garrison I am assuming that a Field troop will also release at the same time .
Otherwise people wouldn't be saying to wait for new Cav ?

[teal kelp]

That’s typically how a commander cycle functions

[cunning oar]

Achilles 99% sure is a off cycle release

[uncut bone]

will pelagius prime be chinese or greek civilization wise ?

[latent hollow]

Spain

[teal kelp]

Dutch

[uncut bone]

german

[teal kelp]

Australian

[uncut bone]

there is historical proof pelagius also spoke chinese

this means his prime must be chinese so he can be meta

[teal kelp]

Tbh if we naming random shit

Pelagius is monagasque

[uncut bone]

he went by they/them

when leading his troops

[teal kelp]

No he didn’t

[uncut bone]

his troops were calling him by his pronouns

they/them cause he was worth many 🔥

[tall moat]

30 days in, wondering what I should focus on tech wise, should i wait till a power event and speed up the other 2 t4? or should i work on economics

[leaden plaza]

as a restart character is it worth it to hoard gk for no reason (maybe achievement ig) or no

[mighty viper]

Generally yes

[sturdy hound]

Why can’t I send a city in a 50 day server to a 11 days server? They’re both in prep season. Why does it say unfulfilled requirements?

[leaden plaza]

alright ty

[mighty viper]

An account can only go to a kingdom that is within 10d in age of that account

[true sorrel]

https://tenor.com/view/bh187-spongebob-patrick-star-derp-duh-gif-21500047

[thorn cedar]

I'm just done maxing my sun tzu

What commander should I max next (purple one)

I'm newbie

[sharp totem]

Bjorn

[leaden plaza]

NO

well actually

bjorn is kinda relevant this time

[leaden plaza]

if ur looking to participate in kvk1 work on bjorn, baibars, or aeth. choose one. sun aeth for inf, baibars sun for cav, bjorn sun for inf

[leaden plaza]

nvm, do baibars if ur lf ca v

[warped heart]

Gathering comms

You could also do baibars, he's fast and decent damage

[tall moat]

I want to go tuth kvk1, best pairing till ysg?

[sharp totem]

Sun

[warped heart]

Thut ysg best pairing
This pairing is only good if your a whale

[sharp totem]

The answer is always sun

If your asking whats the best to pair with

[warped heart]

So your saying sun outdamages ysg?

Also that kingdom you suggested me doesn't even have good whales or "proper" whales

[sharp totem]

Hes asking whats the best till ysg bruv

Read eh?

[warped heart]

Huh

Also Bjorn is ass when suntzu is done, what future or use does one have

[sharp totem]

Mate bjorn is the best epic to exp after sun. Thats what hes asking

Please read

[warped heart]

Why would I expertise Bjorn when there's so much usage to epic heads through putting them on gathering comms, if your expertising Bjorn then it's more likely the case that your fighting against an alliance which is very detrimental to account progression due to the loss of rss and speedups

[sharp totem]

Cuz u can use him in kvk

[warped heart]

like I said yesterday or even 90% of the veterans here, bjorn suntzu is ass

[sharp totem]

Its really not, your free to hold your own opinion tho

Bjorn is the next best epic commander if u wanna make a inf march

[warped heart]

it really is, the current meta for f2p is suntzu aeth

[warped heart]

so your saying suntzu aeth is not the best inf march?

[sharp totem]

Arguably the second best epic in general

[sharp totem]

Dumbass he wants to know what epic to max next, does aeth fit that description?

[warped heart]

bro really read nickname's list of best commanders early game

[sharp totem]

He said himself its one of the best epic comms

[warped heart]

it's already answered, gathering comms for kvk and account progression
also this answer was meant for you, not him

[sharp totem]

Compared to other epics

[warped heart]

so your disregarding baibars

[sharp totem]

Legitimately it doesn’t matter if u exp gathering comms first or not. I didnt and still had enough rss for kvk

Its nice to have exp joan tho

[warped heart]

this is assuming "other epics" this possibly means commanders that goes under the "epic" category

[sharp totem]

But lvl37 is enough really, they’ll expertise themselves passively with tavern chests by the time kvk2 hits anyway

[warped heart]

10m per type doesnt mean it's enough, even researching stuff took alot of rss for it
and it doesn't mean if your ass in the game doesn't count the fact you have enough because you didn't fight enough for 100m kp unless you farm kill

[warped heart]

why would one focus expertising joan when matilda is arguably the best to expertise due to her expertise giving extra rss per completion

[sharp totem]

I had enough rss for research

[sharp totem]

Sure matilda is a better gathering comm who cares

[warped heart]

not enough for kvk fight that will ensue for hours to no end

minimum a day or beyond

[sharp totem]

I just told u i had enough for kvk

[warped heart]

10m is not enough for T4

I expect that you wouldnt even get 100m kp

[sharp totem]

Whered u get the idea i had only 10mil each??

U can get that in like 2 hours of gathering

[warped heart]

this just my assumption cause you probably dont farm much

[paper cloak]

Clarifying, every kd opens every 1 day and 12 hrs r? Or 1d and 15hrs?

[warped heart]

no idea, lilith set it in random, but you can check out if a certain kingdom opens in kingscodex

[mighty viper]

There’s no set pattern

[green venture]

question.

How to type switch language for chat for using keyboard pc?

[mighty viper]

Google is friend

[paper cloak]

Like wanna estimate a kd that is opening in 1-2 months lmao

[mighty viper]

It’s not possible

[warped heart]

none, idk I'd say a day or a week

or a month

[paper cloak]

Hmm I see--

[warped heart]

https://discord.com/channels/1031515159627300924/1389047894467809300
check it out by joining kingscodex

kingdom 3942 just opened yesterday 12:20 utc

[tall moat]

Till ysg, on day 31 rn

For any fighting event

[thorn cedar]

So bjorn is good right?, cause i'm working on aeth rn

[tall moat]

Not sure if I should focus on Herman or kus or imo

[leaden plaza]

bjorn is decent. imo hes a second option. first to be sun aeth for infantry. if for wtv reasion you cant get aeth to atleast 5511 (lets say ur lazy to do expedition) then yeah sun bjorn or bjorn sun is okay

[thorn cedar]

Ok

Thanks

[leaden plaza]

if u do hermann you do el cid. if you plan on exp ysg or getting him to a viable config, you'll use thut. hermann is more of a sub if ur rng is trash and you get like a 3111 thut per say. kuso imo just isnt worth it, and imho is more of a canyon or whale 5 march extra archer imo

to sum it up:

hermann el cid - okayish (only used for "3 second silence") apart from that hermanns rage reduction is alr ig
thut ysg - what ur aiming for, good if thut is bare minimum 5111 (shouldnt be hard) and ysg atleast 5511 or 5x15 if ur feeling risky (exp preferred but hard for f2p by kvk1 imo)
kuso just dont use imo - single target, cleanse ends up doing practically nothing
imho is more if for wtv reason ur crazy and wanna run a 2nd archer march you use imho secondary and wtv half baked commanders you have.

as for siyaj i cant comment on as i have little knowledge on him

[vernal moat]

whats a good kp goal for kvk 1? im 22m power

[teal kelp]

Saying 5111 Thut is ok is mental

[teal kelp]

Sun bjorn still isn’t a march

[teal kelp]

100m+

Won’t be too hard as long as you have fights

[tall moat]

So till I get ysg I run Herman elcid? Currently at 4111 close to 5111 thuth
60 or so days for ysg

[vernal moat]

tnx

im running archers too haha

5511 thut 5555 ysg

[leaden plaza]

well its kinda hard to get 5111 for a start and anything above is just not likely

by kvk1

[leaden plaza]

depends on ur hermann and el cid. I ran hermann at 5511 el cid 5111 temporary one time and it did okay. not the best, but its an okayish holder till u get syg

ysg

[teal kelp]

Not really

[teal kelp]

Great March

[teal kelp]

What the helly

[warped heart]

imhotep is good for debuff

[leaden plaza]

just as an option. some people for wtv reason still run sun bjorn or sun baibars instead of the inverse and idky

[teal kelp]

What are you attempting to cook with 5511 Herman and 5111 cid 💀

[leaden plaza]

it was just temporary till I got ysg

[teal kelp]

Sun Bjorn is shit, and sun bai is even worse

[leaden plaza]

thats what I just said

sort of

[teal kelp]

You’re telling ppl it’s ok to run it 😭

[leaden plaza]

indirectly said

[warped heart]

sun bjorn is garbo and sun baibars is even worst
if you reverse the position the effectiveness increased

[leaden plaza]

thats what I said

[warped heart]

bjorn sun and baibars sun
the only good pairing I see between them is baibars sun

[teal kelp]

Real shit

[leaden plaza]

sorry 😭 i meant to say idky people run sun baibars sun bjorn the inverse is better forgot that part

[warped heart]

you said sun (primary) bjorn (secondary) which is ineffective and unreliable

[leaden plaza]

no i meant idky people run those, the inverse (sun secondary for both marches) is way better

[warped heart]

oh yeah

[leaden plaza]

i worded it in an awful way mb

[warped heart]

yeah you did

just tell them check pins for pairings, the answers always there if they ask for meta pairing

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1G7KXNo_hLoLZmwriXlSt7mc5usk-Rlukk4EYHWeKZBw/edit?gid=0#gid=0

[leaden plaza]

yep yep

was this okayish progression in about a month? this was my first ever character hence the scipi exp. i just play it for fun even though ik its terrible, soc i think or kvk 3: got this is about a month then took like a year and a half break or smt:

f2p

[warped heart]

1. you got zeroed, assuming multiple times
2. I think that kd is in soc
3. your account is cooked and is not suitable for kvk
4. your ch not maxed despite the kingdom age
5. I think you came back from rok?

[leaden plaza]

nah didnt get zeroed just passive progression lol. and yeah ik its cooked i took like a 9 month break from maybe pre kvk or kvk1 cant remember, till now which is yea soc

would u say thats decent progress in a motnh though? got all that in a month f2p. the only notable changes were my scipio was 5434 before i expertised him, and I was 3.6m power b4 I started playing again

[spark elk]

❌

4.1m is not good

And rok isnt really a game where you can take breaks and expect the best for ur acc

[leaden plaza]

3.6m power not good for 1 month?

[spark elk]

No

Im heading to sleep. Sorry if i dont respond

[leaden plaza]

alg haha

[leaden plaza]

i thought it was good pre kvk lol

[sharp totem]

Awful. 5 mil minumum

[leaden plaza]

o shucks

so i assume only being t3, commanders lvl 30, low skill lvl are still also bad?

[sharp totem]

U fought kvk with t3 and lvl30 comms?

Sheesh

[leaden plaza]

no i mean when i played for the first time right, i got all of that and it wasnt kvk yet only the first motnh. then I took a year and a half break or however long till now

i just wanted to know if that progress was alright for the first month in pre kvk as a f2p with no experience

[sharp totem]

Oh as a new players thats not bad ig

I think i was 2 mil by kvk1 on my first acc

[leaden plaza]

oo wow

[sharp totem]

Yeh they didnt let me into lk

[leaden plaza]

how much do u average now that yk what ur doing

[leaden plaza]

oh lol

[leaden plaza]

:PP

[sharp totem]

U can get 15 mil by kvk1

If your f2p

[leaden plaza]

o

sounds feasible

[sharp totem]

Bjorn sun is straight up better

[warped heart]

@mental walrus mute this guy pls

Baibars sun is better than bjorn sun by a mile

[sharp totem]

Disagree. Baibars/sun is alright

But bjorn/sun beats it

[warped heart]

in your fantasy dream

[sharp totem]

Hmm cant handle other ppl having a different opinion than u? Must suck being a baby 😔

Gotta mute everyone that disagrees

[warped heart]

most people would use suntzu aeth in field either way but if your f2p it's better to pick baibars suntzu due to it's effectiveness

[warped heart]

can't handle it cause your shitty math formula proved suntzu aeth is better than bjorn suntzu

[sharp totem]

F2p really shouldnt be going cav

[warped heart]

that's not the point

the point is baibars suntzu is better than bjorn suntzu in terms of versatility and damage output

[sharp totem]

Versatility sure

[warped heart]

you'd usually ignore what other people say and disregard cause your words is what moved people

[sharp totem]

Not dmg tho

[warped heart]

speed + damage + aoe + debuff
this is what I mean

[warped heart]

still weaker than bjorn suntzu in terms of damage and usablility in the future

can't believe a set to stone fact is hurting this dude just because bjorn suntzu is not better than all legendary and epic comms

[teal kelp]

Still stupidly glazing Bjorns shit damage I see

[warped heart]

show him the report

he's still saying bjorn suntzu outperforms baibars suntzu

[teal kelp]

Trust me when I say it won’t work

He somehow thinks bjorn does more damage bcuz of the goofy ass debuff

the debuff doesn’t remotely make up for Bjorns shit damage compared to an aoe commanded lmao

[sharp totem]

It does. I literally use bjorn/sun i kill every baibars i see in field.

Unless they run

[warped heart]

doesn't prove it, show me evidence of you killing them through reports no duel

pure ball fight

[leaden plaza]

i mean do u mean bjorn sun has higher single df? than baibars sun?

[sharp totem]

Not shit dmg. The point of bjorn is too buff dmg

[sharp totem]

It does yeah

[teal kelp]

And yet, it does less damage lol

850 + buff is still worse than 5000 🙏

[warped heart]

not by a mile

bjorn's damage factor is so ass

[teal kelp]

The debuff isn’t gonna make up for straight up having 4000+ damage less lol

[sharp totem]

False

[vernal moat]

is it more worth to place high in honors or marauders?

to spend my ap bottles

[sharp totem]

But it still wins. Crazy how that works huh 🤔

[teal kelp]

He literally has a lower single target damage than an aoe commander

😭

[warped heart]

in what way? you didnt even rebute what I said a while ago

[leaden plaza]

does he actually lol

[sharp totem]

Cuz i used bjorn/sun. it beats baibars

[warped heart]

dont argue about damage, usability and versatility cause he sucks in all aspects

[teal kelp]

What does it win in lmao

[west sand]

depends on your account, if you are under ch25 always, if you are more in need of rss KVK barbs are better

[teal kelp]

Duel?

😭 🙏

[warped heart]

like I said show proof

[teal kelp]

Yes

[sharp totem]

Field

[teal kelp]

850 single target

[warped heart]

if not then it's invalid

[west sand]

mauraders better for gems and rss if I remember right

[teal kelp]

Bai has 1000 aoe lol

[warped heart]

early game kvk1 - kvk3 yes
if soc then kvk barbs are better

[teal kelp]

He’s just stupid and thinks the debuff can make up for bjorn having 4150 less damage factor 💀

[sharp totem]

No amount of discussion is gonna change the fact that bjorn/sun beats baibars/sun in a field battle. Yes baibars has aoe, didnt matter it still lost

[warped heart]

would say maruaders are better in soc in terms of gems though

[teal kelp]

You’re aware field meta is aoe right

[warped heart]

like I said again and again, show proof that baibars lost against it

[leaden plaza]

assume exp
baibars 1000 single
sun 800 single
bjorn 700 single

[warped heart]

you refuse to acknowledge what I said and bother trying

[teal kelp]

And considering you say “I killed a lot of baibars”, I also killed a lot of Martel/ysgs, does this mean bai/sun is better than Martel/ysg?

[sharp totem]

Dont have the reports its a while ago. Your free to test it out youself

[teal kelp]

Sun is 1000 lol

And bjorn is 850

[teal kelp]

Wow

Bros talking random shit without any reports again

💀

[leaden plaza]

forgot to write "not including dot dmg or debuff"

[teal kelp]

Bro has zero proof 💀

All bro has is his word 😭 🙏

[sharp totem]

Ygs just cant handle other people having a different opinion 🤷‍♂️

Literally telling u that as a person that that bjorn/sun that it beat every baibars i encountered in kvk. But its not getting in your heads 😔

Baibars/sun is okay

Has good aoe

Sure

Bjorn/sun beats it

[teal kelp]

I beat every Bjorn I saw

I never once got sad faced

[warped heart]

then shut up, why bother explaining bjorn suntzu is better when there's nothing backing up with what you said other than "it's what I see or experience" type of evidence which is invalid

[leaden plaza]

wouldnt bjorn after the 15% debuff (assuming he can double cast) be 805? 700 df + 15% = 805 or am i missing smt

[teal kelp]

“Baibars/Sun is okay”

[sharp totem]

Point of bjorn is it buffs everybodys skill dmg

[teal kelp]

Gimmie a Bjorn report from yourself that looks like this please

🙏

[teal kelp]

Read the expertise

[sharp totem]

Cool reports. Never said baibars/sun sucked dipshit. But i beat every baibars with bjorn/sun

[leaden plaza]

i did and i got 805

[sharp totem]

What cant u understand?

[leaden plaza]

700 df and for 3 seconds 3 enemy troops take 15% more skill dmg

[warped heart]

baibars suntzu vs bjorn suntu
((450+150)+1000) x 20% skill damage increase = 1920
(((450+150) x 15%)+700)x20% = 1668
if fought in a duel one already lost because the damage is too much

[teal kelp]

You said it’s “okay”

[sharp totem]

Cool

[warped heart]

wdym buff everybody, it debuffs you illiterate

[teal kelp]

Those reports are a decent chunk more than “okay” lol

[mighty viper]

[teal kelp]

Do ur job n mute him for ignoring repeated warnings again

[sharp totem]

I mean yall r free to test it out yourselves

Come back to me when bjorn wins

[mighty viper]

There’s a lot of yapping here not related to questions take it to #☕〡general

[leaden plaza]

he means by debuffing 3 enemy marches, everyones skill dmg is buffed on said marches

[teal kelp]

It’s related to commanders, it’s perfectly relevant to the channel

[warped heart]

already did
#❓〡questions message

[sharp totem]

Do it in game bruv

[teal kelp]

Someone asked a question related to commanders and Zak started bullshitting again

[warped heart]

only 3 marches doesn't excuse the fact that there's other enemy marches that aren't hit by that skill also

[mighty viper]

There’s a lot of people who do so tbh

[warped heart]

it's been like this for 2 or more days now

[sharp totem]

Do u agree that bjorn/sun beats baibars/sun in field?

[teal kelp]

He’s ignoring repeated warnings from tomes and mods

[sharp totem]

I run bjorn/sun it beat every baibars

[mighty viper]

No

[teal kelp]

You’ve literally asked him this before

He has said no

[sharp totem]

Bruh

[warped heart]

send me a report of you getting bullied by baibars sun in field when you duel

[teal kelp]

I ran baibars, I never sad faced, I beat EVERY March

[sharp totem]

Test it out yourselves, come back to me when your done with that

Im out

[mighty viper]

If you’d like to make a formal complaint please do so via #📧〡discord․support

[warped heart]

like I said again, and again, and again, show proof of you beating him in reports

[teal kelp]

He doesn’t have reports 😭 🙏

[sharp totem]

And show me the proof that baibars/sun beats bjorn/sun?

I dont have the report

[leaden plaza]

im geneuinely trying to understand, how is a lower combined df better than a higher one? baibars sun is both higher dmg and both aoe, whilst bjorn sun is part aoe part debuff? what makes it so good

[warped heart]

nothing to back with his bullshitting

[sharp totem]

Idk how it works. All i know is that when the 2 marches fight on the screen. The bjorn wins

[teal kelp]

It’s zak, nothing he says makes sense lol

[warped heart]

I don't need to the evidence I can show or prove to you is from nickname's best pairing list and damage factor calculation dumahhhh

[teal kelp]

“Idk how it works” 😭 🙏

[leaden plaza]

xd

[warped heart]

the biggest difference between me and you is that im more normal than you

[teal kelp]

Also if I just went and grabbed my laptop I could find a bunch of reports where I killed bjorn prob

[sharp totem]

Interesting

[leaden plaza]

well I mean yea i agree with you in a duel, bjorn sun beats baibars sun. but how is bjorn sun better than baibars in general like balls, open field, etc?

[sharp totem]

Go ahead

[teal kelp]

I’d do it but ur just gonna tell me my testing is less relevant than yours or something similar

😭

[warped heart]

what's the point? if angel shows the reports you still insist bjorn sun is still better

[teal kelp]

Exactly lol

[sharp totem]

They’re both pretty good in ball. Bjorn melts marches and baibars has good aoe. I only ran bjorn/sun and got pretty good trades with that. Plus i beat a lot of baibars

[teal kelp]

Bro

[rose narwhal]

What a sight to wake up to

[teal kelp]

I beat a lot of ysgs

Does this mean bai > ysg?

[sharp totem]

Nah

[teal kelp]

also it’s an epic commander, it doesn’t melt anything except barbs

[teal kelp]

Make it make sense

[leaden plaza]

alright but couldnt this mean these good trades you testify of are only relevant to you?

[warped heart]

in what way bjorn melts marches? so if I use bjorn sun in a ball and I hit cm ysg or sun, does that specific march melt faster? or is it because my damage is not enough to "melt" said march?

[teal kelp]

How does beating something make it better when you do it; but not when I do 😭

[mighty viper]

Honestly at this point I’m considering just muting everyone and moving on

[teal kelp]

None of us broke any rule..?

Only person who’s been ignoring warnings has been Zak lol

[rose narwhal]

[warped heart]

that'll be funny

[sharp totem]

That 15% increased skill dmg melts marches. Its fun seeing everyones aoe absolutely obliterate marches once my bjorns skill activated

[warped heart]

[warped heart]

show report

give me a report that shows a positive trad

[sharp totem]

I dont have it rn i posted it here awhile ago. Just look

[teal kelp]

Could you be confused between that, and the fact if a bunch of people are hitting someone at once, it’s just generally being melted..?

[leaden plaza]

that feels more situational than practical. with bai sun, you can trade positively 1v5. bjorn sun with the way you put it feels too hit or miss.

[teal kelp]

Cuz typically when someone’s being targeted they melt regardless of a smol 15% debuff

[sharp totem]

No i think i can tell the difference

[teal kelp]

I doubt it

[sharp totem]

15% is big bro dont downplay it

[teal kelp]

Considering you told me Sargon Leo was a meta march

[warped heart]

so does 50%

[teal kelp]

Something makes me feel like you can’t

😭

[sharp totem]

Thats 15% increased dmg for EVERYBODY in your ball

[teal kelp]

right

[sharp totem]

Baibars only debuffs speed

[teal kelp]

Because ur precious Martel Richard does skill damage

🙏

[sharp totem]

Never said that..?

[teal kelp]

It makes a march basically unable to run away -> gets trapped -> gets cooked

[teal kelp]

Yes, you did lol

[sharp totem]

Show me

[teal kelp]

Innit

Innit

Innit

[sharp totem]

Lmao. Yeah sargon AND leonidas marches. I never said sargon/leonidas was meta

U dumbass cant read 😂

[teal kelp]

Read the third one

[rose narwhal]

[teal kelp]

Can’t get out of this one

[warped heart]

that lasts 3 seconds

[warped heart]

that lasts 3 seconds

[sharp totem]

Sargon and leonidas were meta at one point tho??

[teal kelp]

You said they were an op pair at one point

lol

[sharp totem]

Thats very good in a ball with aoe popping off every second

[teal kelp]

They were literally never paired together 😭 🙏

[warped heart]

dogshit, id use sun aeth for kp gain than bjorn sun

you mean this huh

[sharp totem]

Oh i didnt read that, i didnt say they were a meta pair. I said the individual comms were meta

[warped heart]

this isn't even your own report

[sharp totem]

Im not firefly bruv

[warped heart]

same shit