❓〡questions

[gaunt mantle]

Thatgs just the new feature for new KDs (selected ones only)

[lapis condor]

No way

[gaunt mantle]

Yep

Its for the new vengeance mode

I like it better tbh

You get more power out of your commanders early game

Also the cost is still the sam,e

[lapis condor]

Yeah but its annoying lvl up with general heads😭😭

[gaunt mantle]

You get heads from the vengeance mode

Use those

Beat level 199 and then stop

and farm

[gaunt mantle]

I mean that works

[night yarrow]

U have some redeem codes that are active rn?

[gaunt mantle]

#💻〡redeem․codes

[night yarrow]

List of them u had?

[gaunt mantle]

I dont have anyu

[night yarrow]

As far as I know china is still the best civilization in a new account right? Then change to anything u like after mid?

[lapis condor]

Do you know if I can at least deactivate this? The commanders indicate that I CAN lvl up with books

It's quite messy at the time to lvl up my commanders

[indigo radish]

After CH 25 than go Germany for ap and training buff

[indigo radish]

Place the skills and talents on your commanders for it to go away

[lapis condor]

Yeah, i thought that too, but the marker indicates that i can use books in thoose commanders

[indigo radish]

You can if you want to level them up

Id kill barbs for now if you want to LVL up certain commanders

Like kill barbs with that commander

[night yarrow]

What should f2p priority infan or Cavs?

[tame sun]

Guys

When does the return of the king activate

How long fo I have to sfk on the account

[tame sun]

Both is fine so its honestly if you have better cav commanders or inf commanders

[night yarrow]

best cavs commander for f2p?

in pair

[lapis condor]

Inf is best for f2p imo

[night yarrow]

best inf commander for f2p?

in pair

[lapis condor]

If u are in early game go for sun tzu/ bjorn

It depends for what do you want the march

[lethal jacinth]

Do sun aeth for aoe

[night yarrow]

i see thx

[weak drift]

Is it worth to migrate back to kvk 2 and play again?

I kinda just downloaded back the game recently and not sure what to do tbh haha

[frosty swallow]

Sun/aethel

[stark beacon]

What should my talent tree be for cao cao as a secondary commander for Barb and forts mainly

Anyone??

Minamoto is my primary

[cunning oar]

if he just secondary, dont matter

[tame sun]

???

Does anybody on

[tame sun]

Talent only affects primary

[azure spade]

Mina sun or Mina with 5531 CC

[cunning oar]

mina/sun

[grave badge]

how many gold heads do I need to get from 5211 to 5551

[silk hornet]

F2p I got siyaj kajak total of 22 sculptures from golden chest and I leveled 3rd out of 5 of his 1st skill (3111)
DO I invest or no

[silk hornet]

Like using him and level up

[cunning oar]

dont bother with him

[silk hornet]

oh ok

[unborn helm]

Yea

[silk hornet]

Also for my leveling quota barb farm this is my current march based on my kingdom since I'm leveling up Aethelfled and sun tzu
Any changes?
Infantry aEthel sun
Cavalry Pelagius Caocao
Archer Scipio africaunus Charles martel
Extra
Tomoe gozen 5552
Kusonoki masashige 5211

Do I change any on archer march

Only for my leveling quota to sun tzu and aEthel is I use this

I need help twin

[idle solar]

Your peacekeeping marches need to be primary

[silk hornet]

So I use caocao as primary?

Should I like reset all of his stats and go for peacekeeping?

Is that OK?

Bro pls help

[silk hornet]

HELP

[left quiver]

if I max out YSG instead of investing in saladin, who do I swap? bc I will not swap Ysg.

[cunning oar]

why not swap him

[left quiver]

isn't he like crazy good with emperor qin? I could just skip ZL and use only 1 archer marcher, even if not meta. I am low spender after all, I know I will not have all the meta commanders.

[frosty swallow]

ur using cav

u prob dont have archer gears tech etc

[left quiver]

that's also true.

[cunning oar]

u need consider your focus on kvk1/2

if u invested heavy on cav, doubt u gona have a good archer gear and stuff on kvk3

[left quiver]

so I should max out YSG now, use Mina + YSG in kvk2, skip Saladin completly, and swap for Arthur and hopefully the new cav commander, if not, Phillip?

[cunning oar]

new cav gona take 4 months or so

[left quiver]

ah. ok.

how do you get blueprints? feels like I've done all I've could, but I barely got purple blueprints. I still use the Vanguard weapon because I don't have the purple blueprints for 1 Heart of the Saint.

[cunning oar]

for epics u can get on dig event

[left quiver]

it was hard to get hammers. I understand they changed the system and you will have to do challenges for hammers, which is more conveniant. I will look forward to that.

[cunning oar]

not many options for epics besides it

[kindred kelp]

At what point in the old crystal tech tree do you need research center 25 to progress?

[lilac moth]

horn or ring for QSH/ZL?

[mental dew]

Is it worth to swap to spirited and reroll stats

Appreciate any suggestions thanks in advance

[static crag]

Yo

How much rss would i need to run 3 inf t5 and 2 cav maybe 1 cav t5

Same with speeds

[manic chasm]

70b

[manic chasm]

14y

[clear portal]

So, what is this vengeance stuff, how far does it go, and why do people recceomended not to finish it?

[merry stag]

Why can’t I post in looking for kd

[mighty viper]

It has either 200 or 300 levels and the idle rewards stop when you complete the last level

[mighty viper]

See #❓〡recruit․rules

[clear portal]

Very odd the idle stop, but then it's indeed a good tip. Any disadvantages that relates to not finishing it?

[mighty viper]

Not getting Expedition mode

[clear portal]

I was wondering when that would pop up, thank you for the help.

[mighty viper]

You’re welcome

[clear portal]

In your opinion is it worth it to go for the idle rewards?

[mighty viper]

Yes

[clear portal]

Then that is what we are gonna do

[gaunt mantle]

Growth booster worth buying?

[spark elk]

You can still do it

If you reach CH11 there is the daily objective

Sunset canyon one

You can click on it and it takes you to the expedition page

[mighty viper]

They fixed that part? I was under the impression that having vengeance blocks expedition

[spark elk]

Vengeance still blocks expedition, but you can also do expedition alongside

If you are CH11 and can get the sunset canyon quest

[spark elk]

Obviously

[feral axle]

hello could someone help me with my kvk1 commander pairings being f2p?

[spark elk]

Sun aethel

[feral axle]

sun aethel gonna be my first march

but the thing is that i dont know if it is better to pair cao cao with beli or baibarbs

[frosty swallow]

Dont use cao cao

f2p so only 1 march

[spark elk]

Don't use cao

F2p one march only

If u want to run cav u can do bai/sun

But no other marches other than those two

[feral axle]

i see

but if i only use one march where should i invest my epic heads

and exp

[spark elk]

Gatherers

[mighty viper]

Sun Tzu

Then gatherers

[feral axle]

okay i see, and should i get richard for barbs?

[spark elk]

If u chain a lot sure

5111

[feral axle]

okey perfect

i probably wont invest in any commander until alex or something besides that

[frosty swallow]

i would save gh and not invest on anyone

[spark elk]

Dont

[mighty viper]

Alex isn’t a good investment

[round forge]

nvm good message i replied to

[feral axle]

but if i dont invest in anyone im gonna go to kvk2 with only one march as well

[spark elk]

Yeah

[round forge]

thats good

[spark elk]

Ur f2p

[frosty swallow]

yes

[spark elk]

You should only do one march as f2p

[round forge]

if ur f2p, you might as well quit the game asap

[feral axle]

sooo who is the first commander who is really good to invest in

[spark elk]

You probably won't have the equipment or resources or speeds as f2p anyways for 2 marches

[spark elk]

QSH in soc

[round forge]

wtv is meta in kvk3/soc by the time you get to it

bubble

[spark elk]

Peace shield

[feral axle]

lol, im gonna be with sun/aethel for life

[round forge]

if u wanna do some zone baiting

then just your best comms

[mighty viper]

Why QSH when most young players won’t have archer gear?

[spark elk]

Eh true

I normally point to qsh because of how strong he is

[round forge]

i fucking miss just tping into starting zones and messing around

😭

[spark elk]

I mean I run qsh my archer gear is trash still gets good reps

Just full revival

[mighty viper]

People act like QSH is the entirety of the meta, and that really isn’t true lol

[spark elk]

He is meta, but not entirely meta

[feral axle]

so i just ran sun/aethel until qsh? im gonna get cooked omg

[round forge]

or baibars sun

[spark elk]

Im not saying he is 99% of the meta

[round forge]

id rather do that

[spark elk]

Yeah

Sun aethel until s3

[lethal jacinth]

From bq 5551 joan 5515 qsh 5551 lc exp arthur exp and zl exp what should i use for garrison at aoo

[spark elk]

Don't invest in Alex or idk cheok

[feral axle]

okay thankss

[mighty viper]

I’ve literally gotten told that all players should stop trying to invest in whatever commander they’re working on and invest entirely in QSH

[spark elk]

Don't garrison in aoo

[spark elk]

I mean I get their vision but at the same time

[lethal jacinth]

They hitting my city I might as well get better trade

[spark elk]

Just why

[round forge]

dadmn

whats the 3 march meta now

[spark elk]

1 of each troop type?

Except siege

[round forge]

yes

[lethal jacinth]

Siege is meta

Run 5 marches

[round forge]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1093243909225848862/1120699974863298641/image-1.gif

[spark elk]

Bq/lc qsh/zl huo/Arthur but don't invest in huo

[round forge]

yep pal i for sure know the new abbreviations

pls full names

[spark elk]

Bai qi/liu che

[round forge]

qsh?

[spark elk]

Qin shi huang/zhuge liang

[round forge]

icic ty

😔 sad to see scipio out of meta

but valid, he was on the verge back when i played

[cunning oar]

run 1111

[round forge]

do ppl still cant cope and use guan

for some unknown reason

[cunning oar]

on canyon ig is ok

[round forge]

at least that!

[cunning oar]

where silence is nice, on field he get outclased

[round forge]

mmm

im tempted to come back

but its so much work

[spark elk]

[round forge]

considering how socks, davos quit tho

i feel like rok is even worse now

[spark elk]

It is

[cunning oar]

is viable now

[round forge]

😭 cooked

[spark elk]

My opinion is biased because I really don't like siege marches that much lol

[round forge]

ive heard "its bit better now "like 5 months ago

[spark elk]

Yeah

[cunning oar]

they are niche, good to 6th or 5th

[spark elk]

It went down a bad path of micro transactions

[round forge]

well

[mighty viper]

Still gotta deal with random events that nobody knows anything about

[round forge]

that was always the case

kinda

[round forge]

😭 at least there are events

[spark elk]

Yeah I heard that

RoK has been pumping out half useless events nowadays

[round forge]

when i played, you could survive on
growth fund
gem supply
battle pass

[mighty viper]

Yeah you say that until it’s a coin flip that’s determining if you get the event or not

[spark elk]

You cannot do that anymore

[round forge]

😭 kinda crazy

[round forge]

no wayy

i mean tho

i grinded a lot of gems still

and i started doing barb camps

[spark elk]

You will not survive in the field like that

Need all the new stuff which will make your wallet all rags

[frosty swallow]

when did u quit ?

[round forge]

uhh 1s

[somber skiff]

I'm enjoying the game more nowadays

[round forge]

august 2024
but had no motivation to play after the last kvk
I quit start-mid kvk lol

[somber skiff]

The new crystal tech is much better. Kvk rewards are better if you're in a big kingdom

[round forge]

ehh kinda doubt

[round forge]

what new stuff

[round forge]

well

if crystal tech is better now

idt its that bad

[somber skiff]

F2P can have 400k+ marches for Z5 and only missing the last level on healing tech for kingsland

The gap between f2p and whale crystal tech is much smaller

[round forge]

thats good to hear

why is rok worse now then

what aspects are worse

[somber skiff]

I don't think it is

[round forge]

oh wait

i thought it was the same guy

😭 havent looked at names

[somber skiff]

[round forge]

if I were to come back, id need an actually good project tho tbf

mostly sm i know

not random ass ppl that restart every 30d

😭

[frosty swallow]

u already got an account ?

[round forge]

i gifted it

away

I got like 10m farms at most

[frosty swallow]

rip

[drifting whale]

when is the next mtg

[somber skiff]

I don't know if any are coming soon

[round forge]

maybe kd 4k

[somber skiff]

Maybe 4K 😅

[round forge]

but

[somber skiff]

Yeah

[round forge]

🔥

[somber skiff]

3K didn't go well though

[round forge]

I might need to scrap that idea tho

i planned to do 4k mostly 4fun

2 years ago

but

still too much work

yep

tbf maybe its not too late

from my aprox itll open in december +-

[mighty viper]

Tbh 4K isn’t all they’re hyping themselves up to be. I can almost guarantee they’ll get outspent by some Asian group

[round forge]

yep

I dont even remember the true plan

was something along the lines of: survive the longest you can

[mighty viper]

At this point they probably don’t have one

[round forge]

how many 4k groups are there

already

[mighty viper]

Who knows lol. Most of them don’t exist on discord

[round forge]

oh

[mighty viper]

Most are Asian lol. 4K will probably have to face down Chinese, Korean, Russian, and Turkish groups

[frosty swallow]

Big civil war

[mighty viper]

Such is the nature of a triple zero kingdom

[round forge]

zman do you finally have a permanent main by now!

[mighty viper]

Depends if my KD gets merged against our will or not

[proper basalt]

Socks quit right before it got better

[round forge]

😭

[proper basalt]

actually f2p KP is devalued now, old KP was harder to get

[round forge]

didnt he quit like a week ago

[proper basalt]

months

[round forge]

oh

[round forge]

why is kp easier to get now

have they improved hospitals

[terse mason]

Marches don't pop as fast as they used to

[frosty swallow]

new crystal tech ig

[terse mason]

At least f2p marches

[somber skiff]

2K did well

[terse mason]

Back then whale kp gain was faster

[round forge]

ah

I see

makes sense

[mighty viper]

3K didn’t, and i wasn’t playing back then

[somber skiff]

50%

[frosty swallow]

let see 4k

[terse mason]

3k kds have the unique nature of easily dying

[somber skiff]

2K was great

[terse mason]

Like 3004, 3035, 3159 and now 3379

[mighty viper]

4K will be much the same if not worse

[terse mason]

Should be worse

[mighty viper]

Yep

[terse mason]

That's why I'm guessing that 3473 may also die very soon tbh

Kds like 3500 and 3517 are next

[somber skiff]

It's much better to go to an older stable kingdom

[terse mason]

The 2k kds were the last really stable kds

[somber skiff]

I think you're forgetting how many of them failed too

[terse mason]

What I noticed from 3k kds tho is that their field presence is always really good

[terse mason]

Ofc

[round forge]

3073 on top

for real

[mighty viper]

Survivorship bias

[terse mason]

But rn I'm seeing all 3k kds failing

Ig tho 3265 and 3285 are still alive

Coincidence both fought 960

[round forge]

whats the best 3000-3100 kd now

[terse mason]

3265

I'd say

[somber skiff]

You won't get big groups migrating back for OL anymore

[round forge]

yep best 3000-3100 kd

[somber skiff]

That's not 3000-3100 😅

[terse mason]

Also the 2.9k kds are similar to the 3k

[manic chasm]

3333

[somber skiff]

3060

[terse mason]

Oh mb

[round forge]

that old polish kd?

was it

[terse mason]

2.9k had 2934, 2975, both ded now

[somber skiff]

It's the highest power kingdom in the game. The only 3000-3100 I've heard of

[terse mason]

3004? 3035?

[vale prawn]

anyone know codes?

[somber skiff]

I haven't heard of them

[terse mason]

Both legendary kds in their prime

[frosty swallow]

3072

[terse mason]

3092?

[round forge]

nvm i was thinking of 3080

[terse mason]

[round forge]

my old kd

lmao I just recalled how I invited a good amount of deadweight to 3080 migration server for some time

😭

[frosty swallow]

why

[round forge]

3080 was pissing me off + they were mainly polish at the time

[frosty swallow]

and u hate polish ?

[round forge]

yep, I hated most poles in rok

as a pole myself

[frosty swallow]

oh

[round forge]

idk how to explain, but most are just imbeciles + arrogant

most were deadweights too

like 95% of them

😭

[frosty swallow]

[potent vale]

Fighting just started
Made two bad mistakes
Tried to swarm a Castle when there was a ton of Alliance members next to me thinking that they would join in...
Also accidentally swarmed a flag with quick March and didn't notice right away
Literally played for 5 hours so far 😂

[ionic plaza]

How often do they sell banners

[spark elk]

What

[hallow mountain]

should i leave path of vengeance at level 199 to get xp for a few days or should i just complete it? if it works that way.

i am in the first day of the server

[mighty viper]

Stay at 199 for as long as possible

[lethal jacinth]

Whatt 3b already used

Is t5 that expensive

I dont think I’ll use 3b entire kvk t4

[frosty swallow]

yes

[quick juniper]

If i use less than 20 billion rss by the end of KVK, it was a light kvk.

[noble lava]

Is this enough Lilith? (I actually did 240 spins, this is a alliance member's screenshot)

[round forge]

💀

[mental walrus]

ask them how many scultpures they got

and doing it on huo is diabolical 💀

[noble lava]

230

He's an idiot

I got 112

[mental walrus]

yeah doing on huo, i could see why he's an idiot

🙏

[noble lava]

Bai maxing

Huo fell off 🥀

Single target skill ain't doing anything

[mental walrus]

no still decent but investing in him right now shouldn't really be happening

[noble lava]

Exactly

Atilla still competes with huo's ***

[mental walrus]

uh no it doens't

[cunning oar]

[silk hornet]

What talent should Be focused on aEthel?

[storm shale]

does dmg reduc vs barbs and barb dmg work against shadow legion

[mental walrus]

probably not

[errant marten]

What's the consensus on new bundle that guarantees heads after the daily?

[stark iris]

How do I recruit for a restart project I try to send it but it won’t allow it?

[frosty swallow]

#❓〡recruit․rules

read everything

[craggy veldt]

so when you are joining a rally/garrison, is it better to join it at the very start like during the prep phase/inital reinforcements, or later on, like that back half lets say I'm trying to make my troops last and have a better ratio as I don't have many troops to work with this KVK

[nova sand]

If you are losing and you join the back half you will trade worse than if you were in the first batch of reinforcements

[craggy veldt]

so if we are winning the back half will trade better as well?

[nova sand]

If you really want to have your troops last and better ratio. In the circumstances you have god tier marches. Might as well just field fight

[stoic delta]

How long from when matchmaking starts till it’s done kvk2

[nova sand]

The issue is. Theres no knowing if you will win in the first place. So give it your all from the start

[craggy veldt]

if i had god marches I prob wouldn't have a troop problem lol

[nova sand]

Actually would

God marches but no troops pretty common if you always run 50% expansion

[craggy veldt]

would best strategy be then to sit and wait watching rally and only join if I see we are winning?

^this is super greedy I know

[nova sand]

No that's just.... Embarrassing and a huge turn off in my opinion

Might as well just invest only in siege and qsh if you want good ratios at that point

[craggy veldt]

true

was just curious as to how much it actually mattered

[nova sand]

After all field>rally/garrison

Depending on your lead ofc

[wicked blade]

In Rise of Kingdoms does it make sense to focus on a single troop type or just every troop type when it comes to multiple marches

[nova sand]

Single troop

I've met a lot of cracked mono troop type players that trade well even against their counters

[craggy veldt]

its the same in every game

one really good march will trump 3 mediocore marches

just have to play smart

[nova sand]

Debatably because of how much they focused into their arnaments and gear

[nova sand]

True but in the end it will fall especially when you get swarmed by 3-6

[wicked blade]

Gotcha okay

[nova sand]

If their tech is equal or better that is

[craggy veldt]

playing smart would prevent you from being in a situation like that

[nova sand]

In my opinion. If everyone were to play smart no one would get anywhere

Because by playing smart no one would be tanking. And if no one was tanking everyone would be running away "playing smart"

But that's just war

Gotta take one for the team

[austere drum]

The previous advice used to be invest in whichever marches were meta regardless of troop type

With the new kvk tech if you don't plan to spend every kvk to get it further along it makes more sense to focus on one or two troop types

[wicked blade]

Gotcha okay

I am only experienced in COD so trying to see how ROK works

[nova sand]

Yeee ROK is W

Outside of all the cash spending

[austere drum]

It is W because of the cash spending

[feral crow]

how much gems would it cost to get level 20 in the hammer event

[austere drum]

0, if you've saved enough hammers

[feral crow]

..

well if i didnt

how much gesm usually

[latent idol]

is this new bundle worth it

its 10 bucks pretty sure

[austere drum]

And what else apart from the sculptures?

[austere drum]

Is this a $10 bundle?

[latent idol]

yep

[austere drum]

If you're willing to take your spending on kvk1/2 commanders from $90 a month to $390 a month while bearing in mind they're gonna be useless in SoC then yeah it's worth it

[latent idol]

its only here for a week

plus im gonna swap him anyways

[austere drum]

The reasoning still stands, especially since this limited time thing is being used to determine interest in it

The current three chest bundle is considered great because you get a fair bit of ap, gems and vip for a low price (with the added gambling factor of commander sculptures) - this additional bundle is great if your focus is solely on those sculptures, the gems and speedups are nice but the rest of the offering is meh

[latent idol]

okay thanks

[torn egret]

once you enter soc do all soc commanders except for the newest ones become available?

or does it release each commander after a time limit again

[weak drift]

Which formation is best for smite pair

[mental walrus]

Take a wild guess

[austere drum]

Pincer

[weak drift]

Okay thx

[weak drift]

Aha I heard some ppl feeling me arch set is better some say pincer is better that's why I'm getting mixed answers

[dawn otter]

Is it even worth to get to top 3 as f2p?

[torn egret]

once you enter soc do all the available current soc commanders unlock in the dailys or do you still have to wait for them to release one by one?

[autumn wren]

No, those 20 heads events burn too many account speed ups that’s not feasible for f2ps. If there’s spenders they will most definitely pass you for top 3. Most kingdoms will fix those events later on if not already so it will mostly go to ur rally and garrison leads, or fielders that need universal heads.

[autumn wren]

Not exactly sure on this since can’t migrate backwards anymore to pre-soc, so take it with a grain of salt. Would imagine all the current legendary dailies unlock that’s available for the rest of the kingdoms. Don’t think dailies are locked by KD age while entering SoC otherwise 1002 would have more than everyone else.

[dawn otter]

But what should I do , Iam training t3 and I was waiting for this event and saddly as I can see I can get to top3. Most of the kd has full t4 march so iam kinda behind in that

[worldly chasm]

Can I use my Mina as primary with Arthur? Both expertised

[austere drum]

To kill barbs? Sure. To rally a fort? Sure. To do anything PvP related - hell no

[worldly chasm]

😭

I can’t get anything else expe I’m poor

[austere drum]

Target events which offer milestone rewards for power gain rather than ranking rewards

[austere drum]

You can, you just need to have patience

[dawn otter]

So like focus on getting all the rewards from an event?

[sly reef]

how to get the info about the SOC migration ?

[austere drum]

Not all, just as many as you can time with other stuff going on to double dip

[manic chasm]

Poor wouldn’t have mina exp

[worldly chasm]

Someone expertised it for me gifted me flux💀

[manic chasm]

A random guy?

[worldly chasm]

Yeah

Friend i made in game

[modern pelican]

I am a new player that is starting a alliance. Why is recruiting so hard

[frosty swallow]

dont start an alliance

[mighty viper]

Because you’re not supposed to create your own alliance

[modern pelican]

What is stopping me to

[gray jewel]

Hii

[austere drum]

Experience

[somber skiff]

Recruitment being harder 👀

[austere drum]

Recruitment isn’t hard if you’re dropping gcs left right centre upside down

[modern pelican]

🥀

[barren night]

do ruins stack or altar if you eg go for 2 altar and 2 ruins?

[austere drum]

You can do ruins and altar but you can only get rewards for one altar and/or ruins

[humble mauve]

I'm back to this game, last time played it was 2020, poverty still eating me, so 6 hours every day as f2p with 2 farms, would that be enough? or are f2p players useless in SOC and so on?

[frosty swallow]

More farms ig

soc is easier now because of the new crystal tech

[austere drum]

The amount of time you spend on the game isn’t helpful knowledge , what you are doing with those hours is

[austere drum]

You can get by with 0 farms, I did it for almost the entire time I’ve played. Granted, I’m not f2p but I wasn’t buying rss packs or whaling out either

[humble mauve]

that's impressive honestly

[frosty swallow]

0 farms with T5 ? gg

[austere drum]

I averaged 20-30m kills per kvk and ended kvks with more rss than I had going in

As a f2p or low spender you have to accept that you won’t be on top of the leaderboards unless you put in the effort to get farms which imo is a huge time drain regardless of how little time people say they spend on them

[dawn otter]

Using farms the game starts being a full time job

[austere drum]

If you want to be competitive you either put in significant amount of time/money or both

Best place to be for most people is C seed ish

Small active groups but laid back enough to not have unreasonable expectations

[humble mauve]

2 farms, no money and I'll find myself a dead kd somewhere 👽

[austere drum]

2 farms is plenty in most kingdoms

[proper basalt]

Make 30

[humble mauve]

will be enough to get me 100-200m kills each kvk

[manic chasm]

Kills or kill points?

[humble mauve]

kp

[manic chasm]

I got 50m kp in kvk 1 without farms but I was unexperienced, this time ill get more

[heady sierra]

running multiple marches with low-mid gears or 1-2 march(es) with good gears will get more kp?

[austere drum]

Good luck

[manic chasm]

Im in 3857

[dawn otter]

I have 1 farm and most of the times I just login for 5 mins per day and send marches to gather rss . I don't have the strength to do events and spend the ap

[austere drum]

Depends on who you’re going up against, but generally speaking it’s better to run fewer but better equipped marches as opposed to more marches with poor gear

[manic chasm]

Ill go back after capturing lt here

[austere drum]

Pro tip : max out all rss production buildings and trading post and try to keep it in max tech alliance

[dawn otter]

Iam trying to speed run to get to ch 22 for the 5 marches and then I will focus on these , after maxing all rss production buildings and lvl up a lot the economic technology I will start trading rss on my main

Idk if that's a good strategy but that's what I have in my mind

[austere drum]

It’s good

[dawn otter]

But again as I said i just login for 5 mins , idk if it's bad but I don't feel like I want to spend time on the farm account

[manic chasm]

Which kd

[dawn otter]

3846

[dawn otter]

Why?

Iam talking about my farm acc my guy

[manic chasm]

I know

That’s good

[dawn otter]

Should I restart because of my farm

[manic chasm]

Why restart?

[dawn otter]

I've got 6.5m power , kinda low but if I push I can get to 9m but yea iam in a good alliance so Idc

And iam waiting for mtg to get to vip10

[manic chasm]

Yeah it’s tomorrow

[dawn otter]

Finally

[manic chasm]

Did you buy growth fund yet

[dawn otter]

No only 30 day gem supply once

[manic chasm]

Did you spend gems on some unnecessary things

I only spend on vip

[dawn otter]

No I didn't, rarely on courier in early game but in total No

I only spend on vip too

[manic chasm]

I spent around 35$ on my acc

Ill show now

[dawn otter]

What do you think about my acc ? I don't spend a lot of time on it but iam trying to be productive when iam online

I spent 15€

[manic chasm]

Yeah looks good

I started in 3850

I also have 4 passports rn, gonna spend one to go back to my home kingdom

[dawn otter]

Yea it's better than mine

[manic chasm]

Yours is still good unlike people who spend gems on speedups in early game to feel powerful and then kill their account

[manic chasm]

Are you in top 1 alliance?

I guess not

Because of low power

[dawn otter]

My kd died in like 2 days idk the reason tbh and iam gonna immigrate soon

I was in top 2 I had a friend in the alliance

[manic chasm]

Are you inf main

[dawn otter]

Ye sun aeth

[dawn otter]

Iam gonna immigrate but what iam gonna do with the current rss that I have

I must spend some speed ups before I immigrate saddly to spend them

[manic chasm]

You’re rich

Im always short of rss

[manic chasm]

Wait for zenith in september)

[manic chasm]

I was busy with gathering gold for equipments

[dawn otter]

My kd is totally died should I wait 2 weeks

[manic chasm]

I think more than 2 weeks

[dawn otter]

Check this

Totally died

[manic chasm]

Yes weak

[dawn otter]

You think it's worth the wait? Or just spend the speed ups and immigrate

[manic chasm]

Spend at speedup spending event

For 20 ghs

And 3k gems

And other goods

[dawn otter]

I mean I was waiting for today and saddly the events was for troop training

And I have to wait another 2 weeks I guess

[manic chasm]

Troop training is powering up event

Without leaderboard

[dawn otter]

Can't reach top 1

[manic chasm]

I dont remember such event

[manic chasm]

Download update

[dawn otter]

So what do you think , should I wait 2 weeks for next speed up event or use the speed ups today and immigrate in a normal kd

[manic chasm]

Rss

[dawn otter]

How much iam gonna make if I sell all of these

I think its bad for the acc tbh

[alpine socket]

How much marches should a F2P have by KvK 1?

[dawn otter]

1 main march

[alpine socket]

Filled with the main troop type that I have? So one full march of infantry?

[dawn otter]

Yes

[manic chasm]

1 march till kvk 3/4 i think

[noble lava]

Guys what's ultimate victory in Kvk 3 or light and darkness?

Occupying the zigg or having the most kingdom/alliance honor

[noble lava]

Our alliance had 2 bil in kvk 1

[manic chasm]

That’s not kvk 1

[noble lava]

Bruh😭

[manic chasm]

3846 is preparation season

[noble lava]

Still low

Our top 3 alliances had 4 bil

[dawn otter]

The kd is totally died as I said ,gonna immigrate soon

[noble lava]

Combined

[noble lava]

Off

Oof

[supple hearth]

and probably 10M kp

[manic chasm]

Low but not very dead

Should have been like 50% stronger now

1.2b

Instead of 800m

[dawn otter]

Around 200 players left in 4 days

[noble lava]

Good or bad?

[supple hearth]

why censoring

[noble lava]

Why?

[manic chasm]

I got confused

[supple hearth]

is kvk3, not soc

[manic chasm]

I thought that was power

💀💀

[noble lava]

Bruh

Kvk 3 for us

[supple hearth]

3643

[manic chasm]

My first kingdom

[dawn otter]

there was aristocracy in the kd and many alliances were unhappy about it

And the king was a sucker

Didn't even tried to do anything he went icognito mode and went to another kd lol

[alpine socket]

What about my other troop types like cavalry? Do I not have to have a separate full troop match for that?

[manic chasm]

You need to focus on one type

[alpine socket]

But I didn't stop training cavalry

[manic chasm]

Full march doesnt mean 200k units

Full march is when you have already very good equipments for your unit type and good commanders

[alpine socket]

So do I just leave my cavalry at my city

[manic chasm]

Keep training

[dawn otter]

Why leave your cavalry in your city?

[alpine socket]

Do I make separate march for it

[dawn otter]

Just be consistent in training until kvk1 , use training speed ups wisely in events, gather gold and spend it for equipment for your main commander and that's it

[manic chasm]

I said focus on one march

[alpine socket]

So my best march will be infantry but I can also have a cav march but it won't be as good and I will have no equipment for it

[manic chasm]

Your cav march without equipment and good commanders will be useless

You will always get very bad battle reports

[dawn otter]

Yes and in the end you are gonna spend a ton of rss for it without getting a lot of kp and it's gonna be a waste

[alpine socket]

So I leave my cav at city then

[dawn otter]

You mean during fighting in kvk?

[manic chasm]

@alpine socket what’s your kingdom and what’s your power

[alpine socket]

Yee

[manic chasm]

You can garrison flags with them

[dawn otter]

Yes use only 1 march with full infantry troops don't focus on anything else

And ye you can garrison with the rest

[weak drift]

💀💀

Like how could I even get this much conversion stone

[proper basalt]

win kvks

[austere drum]

That ain’t converting imo, you’re better off using autarch on a new inscription

[proper basalt]

or overwrite with a regular inscription, convert, then add new autarch to save conversion stones

they should allow inscription deletes tbh

[austere drum]

And have even more people complain to CS about accidentally deleting it?

[weak drift]

Sad , on average how much conversion stone could I get per kvk

[manic chasm]

Average 0

[weak drift]

💀💀💀

Welp I guess I gotta wait for future skill damage infantry commanders to show up😂

[grizzled olive]

How much time left from opening new kingdom

[manic chasm]

Around 2 weeks

[grizzled olive]

I'm asking for 3894 kingdom how much time left

[manic chasm]

Around a week

[coral zenith]

Is this good value

[grizzled olive]

I guess it will open today

[autumn wren]

Yeh, gold heads are the most important resource for catching up in commanders. Same goes for those 10 head bundles that show up when you unlock a commander.

[coral zenith]

Alr thx

[gaunt mantle]

Why did you censor your alliance names and KD? Like?

[gaunt mantle]

Next couple of days

[proper basalt]

he forgot to censor the LK name

[gaunt mantle]

LMAO

Btw is growth booster bundle worth buying

[ionic atlas]

Is it better to do a sleeper or stay in kingdom if its strong?

[gaunt mantle]

Depends

If your doing a sleeper and your with a project youy migrate out to your home KD

[mighty timber]

can any one here is from 2091 ?!?!

[manic chasm]

Maybe

[mighty timber]

im looking to migrate to 2091 , i text to the King and rang4 (Don) but no reply 🙁 ....

[manic chasm]

Then dont migrate

[mighty timber]

the problem is i have "farm acc in 2091" but my main acc ~37M (1295) & ~40M ( 2469) !!! i try to bring them in 2091 specialy in 1295 is become REALLY BAD and TOXIC place (she try to sale the kingdom and acc ) soo im a new in Discord 🙁

[manic chasm]

Ok

[noble lava]

Privacy for everyone

[round forge]

💀

I forgot a lot of ppl here are slightly special

[cunning oar]

forget this part

[noble lava]

Ya'll have such high brightness 🥀

I thought no one would see that but I guess ya'll here are just blindness farming

[muted river]

I have a question but it might be a bit confusing

Sooo i was in sub alliance doing baulers and shadow event was started, I left before it ended.Can I still do it in main alliance?

[autumn wren]

Yeah but you will only get the waves remaining

So you might not hit the max points needed for all the rewards depending how many waves left.

[muted river]

Does difficulty matter or?

Thnx 😄

[empty barn]

Heya i dont really have an issue its just a question as the things ive read havent made the swap event clear to me 😅
If i migrate fowards from 3741 to 3724 before swap event happens in 41 or 24 will i still get it or not ?

[fresh crescent]

how long does it take for f2p to reach t5 or never

[somber skiff]

~6 months if you play often

Wait if you're thinking never might be an option then maybe 12+ months if you're new

[fresh crescent]

ah ok

[muted river]

Does breaker inscriptions debuff stack ?

[dawn isle]

Guys I need tips on marauders for choosing the secondary commanders that could help

What else could I use than cleo/ Joan / Constantine

[autumn wren]

If you mean for longevity purposes without refreshing any commander that has healing.

[dawn isle]

Yeah I want them to last cz I won't be sleeping tomorrow, gotta be fast as hell

I can only think of lohar/ Richard and cleo
That's pretty much everything ig?

Season 2

[autumn wren]

Tamar has healing too.

It's very smoll though.

[austere drum]

If your marches are that weak you could go in a group with one or two others

[somber skiff]

It won't stack with other breaker inscriptions but it can stack with other things

[strong sage]

As a f2p when should you be getting t4?

Or a very low spender

[quick mist]

after update, its beeing impossible to play, always frozing, always disconecting... what happened?

[bronze wigeon]

Always disconnect, is it only on my account?

[tall thorn]

Yea same issue here

[old bear]

My phone is Boiling like its temperature is 1400 Celsius is normal too?

[wind plume]

The issue has been reported and devs know about it

[old bear]

About that too? @wind plume

[wind plume]

Nah thats all you...

[vast zealot]

im new to the game, is it worth using normal speedups on t3 unit research or hold them for buildings (im 4 days in)

[old bear]

Oh😭

[wind plume]

Personaly i whould hold on to speedups for events where you can get extra rewards for using the speedups. Also i whould only use it on building/research untill kvk 1

[vast zealot]

sorry i meant researching tier 3 troops

[wind plume]

Ah yea, thats worth it

but wait till there is event with using speedups

[vast zealot]

im looking at the calendar and the closest even will bethe mighest givernor but thats like 6 days away xd

[mental walrus]

T3 is not worth

Once you unlock keep training t2

Until you teach t4

[vast zealot]

how long will it be to reach t4 units? i have budgeted roughly 100 a week

[mental walrus]

1-2 weeks prob

[vast zealot]

also any tips to reach 1.5mil in the next 4 days. im at 653k right now

for the lotus event

[open cradle]

does anyone know of or have a screenshot of the points breakdown in stage 6 final sprint for MGE?

[dawn isle]

Just less points for all of the stages

[open cradle]

looking specifically for stage 6 gathering gold points. Vids and online wikis say it gives 5 points per 25 gold, while stage 3 you get 5 points for 100 gold

which is more points for stage 6 compared to stage 3

dunno if its outdated

[dawn isle]

Gathering is meh

Push troops or go kp

[open cradle]

i just need the points breakdown so i can calculate

[worldly chasm]

Is it better to have on cav defence and health on 100% and little bit more attack or 100 defence and 110 health?

[wind plume]

one attack is like 0.5 health out from what ive heard atleast

You can use that as calculations

[worldly chasm]

Hmm so health much better

[wind plume]

Health is the best yes

[austere drum]

If your march has a lot of hp (relatively speaking) then additional defense stats are more valuable and vice versa for defense

Stuff like all damage stats trump any other base stat

[worldly chasm]

Yeah but they are exactly same now

If i use defence or health they are not the same theb

[austere drum]

Then choose whichever gives you the most stat points assuming we're talking about armaments

[worldly chasm]

No no stats over all

I have exact same defence and health overall

[austere drum]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-thousand-yard-stare-thousand-yard-stare-cat-ptsd-cat-soldier-cat-war-gif-9110270742088459827

[worldly chasm]

Grrrr

[shell zenith]

What % comes of the time when you get your 30 helps by alliance ?
Thanks in advance

[wind plume]

Here is the details, so basicly you get 1% from each help

[fallen plaza]

Does the formation of the primary also affect the secondary commander. For example alex and sun tzu using wedge, will sun get the bonuses from primary formation?

[valid mist]

yes

[fallen plaza]

Okay, thank you

[shell zenith]

Thank you so much for that

[viscid carbon]

what is the duration between kvk 2 and kvk 3

[mighty viper]

It varies can be a few weeks or several months

[viscid carbon]

What is the minimum duration?

[mighty viper]

I doubt it would be less than two weeks

[empty barn]

If i go foward to like a kingdom older than mine will i miss swap event ?

[mighty viper]

Depends on how far forward you go

[empty barn]

Huumm let me check

i think like 20 days

[mighty viper]

If they’ve already had the swap event then yes, you would miss it

[empty barn]

if it starts tomorrow then i would miss it if i tried to migrate then

[mighty viper]

Most likely

[empty barn]

ill stay in my kd then and qait

wair

wait

[winged totem]

Tmr more than gem?

[mighty viper]

Most likely

[tight scroll]

When can we immigrate? Says I haven't hit the requirements

[mighty viper]

Depends on the requirements

[tight scroll]

Doesn't tell me the requirements I don't think

[mighty viper]

Click on the question mark

[tight scroll]

Done

[cunning oar]

the above immigrate button

[tight scroll]

So I'm nascent and can't move until I'm in preparation season

[narrow osprey]

Anyone have Siyad and Cid expert ?

[lethal jacinth]

10% def or 7% health

[mighty viper]

Yes

[unborn helm]

Maybe

[lethal jacinth]

[spark elk]

Ask a S1 whale

Anyways if you're asking don't use don't use don't use

[narrow osprey]

U tried it

[spark elk]

Why would I use them

If I were looking at S1 archers I'd rather do Thutmose and YSG

[lethal jacinth]

Can I switch back to old battle report

This one so uogly

[cunning oar]

dont think so

[narrow osprey]

Yeah I know but ain’t for rally

[spark elk]

Still thut ysg for rally idk what ur on abt

Siyaj is a no go no matter what

[narrow osprey]

[supple hearth]

max all

[narrow osprey]

My boi

[vast mesa]

At which day of the kingdom age will MTG spawn?

[modern palm]

Hey,need some help for garison city? Who to max first? Her,Gorgo,Eleanor or Cy?

[torn egret]

once you enter soc do all the available current soc commanders unlock in the dailys or do you still have to wait for them to release one by one?

[modern palm]

I have gorgo,hel and gorgo on 5111.
But dont know which one to max first.

[unborn helm]

You have to wait for some time

[unborn helm]

Depends on gear

But obv don't spend unis

Just mge + daily special

[muted crater]

What’s a good rally formation for QSH?

[runic shore]

Anyone know dead kingdom in soc?

[autumn wren]

Ur gonna have to look urself really, everyone's got their own opinion about what "dead" constitutes.

[night hamlet]

Does anyone have any idea how long or how many speed ups you would need to max out the whole crystal research?

[bitter hawk]

@mental walrus

how much gems is legendary bp valued at

[runic shore]

Just somewhere where i can store a few acounts and that it wont get zerod until my new acount is in season of conquesy

[lethal jacinth]

Sun aeth is meta

[mental walrus]

idk

[bitter hawk]

[dusk sundial]

when do the rest of legendary commanders are available to unlock in a new kingdom?

[ornate shuttle]

What day is rise of kingdoms anniversary?

[dawn isle]

Would 200k ap pull me good for marauders?

[cunning oar]

after 7 days i think

[queen inlet]

yes

BRO

i just got 2 inscription armaments in 20 travel

[queen inlet]

what's the COO meta now?

still leadership? or is infantry way better now

[autumn wren]

Last time I checked it was leadership. Pre-rage is just too powerful.

[teal halo]

Can I get someones opinion about me maxing alex's wheel then getting ysg to 5511?

[queen inlet]

ysg is better than alex

[teal halo]

wdym?

alex/ysg

[queen inlet]

oh

idk

[frosty swallow]

no

Exp ysg or dont invest

[teal halo]

then alex/sun?

[mental walrus]

if you can't exp dont invest

easy as that

[frosty swallow]

I wont invest in Alex

[teal halo]

I don't wanna run sun/aethel again

[mental walrus]

if u dont have gh idk what else to say

[frosty swallow]

It's good dw

[teal halo]

I get about 1mil kp per ball fight

[frosty swallow]

Skill issue

Save gh

[teal halo]

can't I swap like alex in kvk3?

[frosty swallow]

Not worth

Need to unlock commander which use speed up and gems

[pure violet]

How do i enter lost kingdom im in kvk 1 rn ?

[glacial plover]

is hollow square or testudo formation better for phyurrus

same question for cm and alex

@young kestrel is htis a good 3 inf lineup

[pure violet]

Bruh how come i dont have the castle icon to go to the lost kingdom?

[young kestrel]

Much infantry

[glacial plover]

it is

[glacial plover]

you need to be city hall 25 to teleport back and forth from the lost kingdom

[young kestrel]

Not bad I think, Id prob use different troop types, but it’s not bad

[glacial plover]

my other option is alex cm/phyr/sun idk which is better, tut/cid ysg, mina cc

[raven trench]

Just do it bro

Enjoy your game, you get a swap anyways

[pure violet]

so if im city hall lvl 23 and i teleport to lsot kingdom how do i go back?

[glacial plover]

did u get in to lost kingdom?

[half crystal]

is it possible to get Minamoto no Yoshistune f2p

like from tavern

[glacial plover]

np

[half crystal]

i didnt see him there

[glacial plover]

mina is from vip purchases only

[half crystal]

aw

[dusk sundial]

sun/aethal better or bjorn/sun?

[lethal jacinth]

Can I see someone else’s mge stage rank if it’s not top 10

[dusk sundial]

is bjorn/sun off meta now

[lethal jacinth]

Sun aeth

Aoe

[silent current]

been so for like over 2 years

[dusk sundial]

bjorn/sun IS OFF META FOR 2 YEARS?

oh right last time i was using it in 2023

so best f2p infantry march is sun/aeth?

in season 1 ofc

[silent current]

yuh just cause sun aeth was better

more aoe focus, stat reduction and it doesnt have any reductions on its aoe

[dusk sundial]

soo

[dusk sundial]

?

[kindred kelp]

Hey Lilith, I hope you are doing 👍🏼 I wanted to ask whether Lilith has a way to deal with perverts and bad ppl in general. Because the game is sickening lately.

[kindred kelp]

Why not ban them

They will keep doing the same thing to others

But alright I'll do the same and just block them

[glacial plover]

u can report them

but it takes time to investigate each account

and its using more lillith rss that don't need to be used

[silent current]

report them ingame if it happensed there. if its on discord and not here just report to discord. if its from here make a ticket in #📧〡discord․support

[glacial plover]

just be responsible and safe urself and ud be fine

[kindred kelp]

👍🏼🫶🏼

[autumn wren]

These devs are hesitant on doing anything that losses them player base, ranging from refusing to address major concerns to simple things like people sending DTs and other ovs things that should warrent a ban.

It's been like that since 2018 when the game launched. They never ban for speech in-game, they just mute and pretend the severity isn't huge.

[mental walrus]

before u get ysg that is the best option

[craggy veldt]

as a returning player im assuming its best to pick up where I left off rather than start a whole new account?

[subtle ginkgo]

Restart

Unless your account was left in good shape

[mighty viper]

No, restart

[craggy veldt]

what do I do with the old account then? just a farm later on?

[mighty viper]

Exactly

[craggy veldt]

im reluctant to let it go cause I bought mina 😭

[subtle ginkgo]

Yuh

[craggy veldt]

favorite commander

[crimson totem]

when would the next civ be added?

[mighty viper]

At a random time, but generally once a year or so

[crimson totem]

has any civ been added this year

[mighty viper]

Not yet lol

[crimson totem]

ah

what do you think they would add? persia

[mighty viper]

No clue, but i wouldn’t be surprised if it was something African or American

[torn egret]

which one?

[crimson totem]

does a kingdom have to be a specific number of days old to get level 5 or 6 farms ?

[mighty viper]

I think so, but I’m not sure on the exact details

[crimson totem]

fair

[crimson totem]

if i ask for support, and choose for them to msg me on discord, dyk the bot that would message me

or is it a human that would msg me

[mighty viper]

I wasn’t aware this was an option so I don’t know

[crimson totem]

alright, thx tho

[mighty viper]

You’re welcome

[lone flint]

For mtg

I have 32k gems and I’m f2p

Just wondering if it would be worth it to go 25k and 7k

Or just 7k and 7k

First mtg of the kd

[mental walrus]

25k 7k

not much to do with gems at the start of kingdoms except putting them into vip

[lone flint]

Aight

If I can get vip 10 before the kvk map opens am I going fine?

[silent current]

left i think

[lone flint]

How long does delayed matchmaking last for on coo?

I was afk for one game and now it’s taking forever to get a game

[lone matrix]

Hi, i need 23k gem for vip 15 and have 104k gem, how much should i spend in these 2 days?

[silk hornet]

What the rewards for kvk?

[torn egret]

is zhuge in daily? if not when’s zhuge coming too it

[silk hornet]

guys what are the rewards for kvk

[autumn wren]

What KvK season are you talking about, it varies between

[silk hornet]

1st kvk
60 day old kingdom

Around 60 day

[autumn wren]

KvK 1 = Charlemange, Legendary 5% skill dmg skin, frame wild spirt
KvK 2 = Wu Zetain, 3% def/3% healing skin, plaque wild spirt

those are the main rewards

[silk hornet]

Oh it's characters?

[autumn wren]

Commanders, yeah

[silk hornet]

How about like speed ups or gems

[autumn wren]

Yeah it has some of those, but those are the minor rewards. Every KvK has those.

[silk hornet]

Especially the blueprints

[manic chasm]

Which kingdom are you in

[silk hornet]

Oh

[silk hornet]

Vilens, gonna transfer to ralgrith

No actually I'm already at ralgrith

[autumn wren]

Yea, there's no issue with that, you'll need to get to VIP 14 at minimum anyways to start that constant gold head generation of 3 a day.

[manic chasm]

Tell me the number 💀

[vast mesa]

Whats the second best pair option with SUN TZU after sun/Æth for kvk1

[lone flint]

Ysg

If not ysg

Then baibars

[lone matrix]

After vip 15 in what should i use gem during mtg?

[dusk briar]

sun ysg is the best pair option

after that its sun aeth

but for f2p sun aeth is the best

[hallow mountain]

should i leave path of vengeance at level 199 for xp claim?

[alpine socket]

How often does the more than gems event happen

[sour raft]

every month but it depends sometimes

[short oasis]

tbh do egg event instead

[robust marsh]

Best civilisation to play, new player here. Im lv10 castle

Im currently using Egypt

[pure violet]

Is 8.5m power low for the start of KVK 1?