❓〡questions

[mint grail]

You got a leadership gear on?

[mighty viper]

Correct there are no good epic archer commanders so you’d have to use two gold commanders

[potent vale]

Is this what you mean by
Normal one's?

[mint grail]

Yep

[terse mason]

Go db for all but helmet and weapon

Helmet and weapon do the kvk shop

[mint grail]

Will maybe take 2 years but ok👍

[terse mason]

If you're a regular player it'll take waaay faster trust

[mint grail]

I’m F2P gng, can’t multitask without money😂

[trim valley]

im also a f2p, im a f2p that spends money

;p

[lunar musk]

Requital's additional damage should trigger crazed, right?

[lunar musk]

It doesn't seem to trigger crazed, idk if thats a bug or not

[somber skiff]

It's because it's additional damage and not direct damage

[lunar musk]

Isnt direct damage simply the general name for skill damage dealt?

At least thats what I thought it was. Thanks

[somber skiff]

No. They're different types of damage that both benefit from skill damage buffs

[lunar musk]

So shapur wouldnt trigger crazed on active skill, but since qsh's overtime dmg is direct it still triggers crazed, correct?

[verbal jackal]

Does anyone know if Lilith removed sleepers because I joined a group and this one guy keeps saying the projects over because there's no jumpers or sleepers (I know jumpers were removed)

[terse mason]

Sleepers were never removed

Sleeper just means migrating as soon as it opens

[thorny falcon]

Does greatest glory work for combo comms?

[terse mason]

Ye

[thorny falcon]

So that's an all damage booster right? Kinda like leadership commander?

[terse mason]

Wdym with tat

[thorny falcon]

I'm confused with the description

[verbal jackal]

Ok thanks

[terse mason]

I'm confused wat you mean 😅

[thorny falcon]

What's normal dmg? Don't all comms do it?

I swear it was 5% skill dmg on it previously

[terse mason]

Tat's another accessory

[terse mason]

No, all comms do "basic attacks"

Normal attack dmg is the basic attack you do and the counterattack tat you do to the enemy cuz the enemy is hitting you

Smth like smite dmg or combo attacks are attacks tat benefit from normal attack dmg

Combo attacks specifically are considered as extra basic attacks tat hit super hard

So 1 combo attacks gives the same amount of rage tat one normal basic attack does

[lunar musk]

Some do more than others

[terse mason]

But combo attacks don't trigger counterattacks

[thorny falcon]

Oh man that's a really good accessory now

[lunar musk]

Qsh only ever does counterattack that benefits from normal dmg for example

[terse mason]

Yes

Lc's expt for example does combo attacks

[lunar musk]

I feel like youve got better options than gg for combo though, youd rather take advantage of combo triggering stuff that gets triggered by basic attacks

[thorny falcon]

Thanks , I understand now

[thorny falcon]

I'm getting the combo accessory anyway

[terse mason]

Yep

5% all dmg is nice for certain comms

[lunar musk]

Not sure if its good, will have to wait and see how it does with 2 combo with newcav

[terse mason]

But rn many accessories are better value than tat

[somber skiff]

I think only LC gets the full rage because of his expertise. The others just get the rage from things like talents

[terse mason]

Ya I forgot haha

Mb

[lunar musk]

Its probably why the expertise has to specify the extra rage beside the combo yeah

Wasnt lc expertise defined as an extra basic attack before combo?

[terse mason]

Yes

[lunar musk]

Probably for parity with that while renaming the mechanic to combo then

[thorny falcon]

Yeah I know, I met all requirements which chadski mentioned in his vid lol

[terse mason]

Lmao

Just know, combo attacks are slightly better than smite dmg

[thorny falcon]

Yeah I have huge boosts on combo atm

But I wanna do echelon next for phillip

[lunar musk]

Basically same thing except one triggers effects

[terse mason]

Yeeep

Idk why some delulu and not reading ppl say smite is on top

[lunar musk]

Though combo could be worse if the "hit by basic attack" effects on target are rlly dominant

[terse mason]

[terse mason]

Tru but rn not many comms counter combo

Last I checked noone did

[cunning oar]

ig u can proc stuff like coin

but like no one use

[lunar musk]

Yeah or eleanors skills

Not much comes to mind tbh

[cunning oar]

possibly infantry rally maybe get this to counter cav garrison

if be combo

[lunar musk]

Could be

Its kind of a risky territory, since it could cause unintentionally good antiswarm

Probably why tokugawa didnt expand on the concept

[cunning oar]

Yes, but it doesn't really matter nowadays, because there are almost no skills like that in the meta

[fathom lily]

What UTC open 3872?

@cunning oar What UTC open 3872?

[lunar musk]

Do /newserver

[cunning oar]

is not set time

[fluid flicker]

I got enough gems to max castle and enough gems to have VIP 13? I don’t know what to choose

[unborn helm]

Generally I prefer vip still as you can natural the castle quite well imo

And you want the vip 14 and eventually 15/16/17 a lot

[fluid flicker]

It’s hard to natural max the castle

Rallies take a lot of time

[unborn helm]

You can work on it after v14

[fluid flicker]

You suggest v14 because of 3 heads?

[spark moat]

yes and anyway

[soft mulch]

vip imo

[spark moat]

i noted that full gem farming rather rally fort was faster way

[fluid flicker]

Hm maybe you’re right

[spark moat]

i did 3 weeks non stop maxing castle 25

[fluid flicker]

Not much

Im struggling with it heheh

So i hit VIP 13 now

[dapper nymph]

guys, how long is for 1 kvk skip?

[unborn helm]

2 weeks and a few days

2 weeks in between two different pops

[manic drift]

how much speed ups do u need to train 100k t4?

[soft mulch]

depends on ur buff

[fluid flicker]

Accesories ring and horn still in use?

[cunning oar]

yes

[fluid flicker]

Thanks

[manic drift]

I have 60% training speed. Do you know how long it will take?

[fluid flicker]

How much does it train 1k t4?

And just calculate it x100

[rich dune]

anyone know the current working codes?

[arctic saffron]

does the last mge event include enemy elimination

[unborn helm]

Ye

[modern pike]

Is airtight worth getting

[modern pike]

I've already got.hardheaded

[arctic saffron]

right ty i keep forgeting

[cunning oar]

yw

[sweet valve]

Which is better archer in inf knowing that I can expertise 2 commanders by kvk3

of my marchs

[old bear]

Can someone give me in dms the best talents map for Thutmose III and mehmed ii?

[soft mulch]

dont use mehmed primary

[soft mulch]

wdym

[sweet valve]

say if I can expertise both BQ/LC or either QSH/ZL

which one should my friend do

[spare spire]

Is there a keyboard shortcut for attack march?

[soft mulch]

qsh is best rn

but it depends on equipment armaments

[sweet valve]

Is inf ok since I think it’s the best for F2P

[soft mulch]

i would personally go inf

but qsh is the best rn

however that could easily change so its really up to you

[cunning oar]

in the end of the day u gona do both later

so more personal who to start

[sweet valve]

is it smart to push for a universal zenith if I have enough speedups

[old bear]

Wdym?

[soft mulch]

depends

[soft mulch]

dont use him primary his tree is bad

[old bear]

But is he good?

[soft mulch]

as secondary yes

[terse mason]

Secondary only

[old bear]

Im new to game

[sweet valve]

Depends on what?

[soft mulch]

dont take him

use sun tzu/aethflaed

[cunning oar]

on buff and on cost

[old bear]

But so can you give a tree for mehmed which I will use as secondary?

[soft mulch]

how many speeds it will cost you what buff it is

[soft mulch]

secondary commander talents and equipment do not matter

[old bear]

In dms

[terse mason]

You have enough to push 35 mil power minimum?

[old bear]

Oh

[cunning oar]

u dont want be a deadweight with zenith

[soft mulch]

just these 5 skills here are what tmatter

[old bear]

I nee anyways the tree

Can you give it?

[sweet valve]

he will only push universal defense city skin

[cunning oar]

he will have speeds to do something later?

[soft mulch]

this is what I have it was for zeroing cities

[soft mulch]

will he use all speeds

[sweet valve]

he will have some left

[soft mulch]

and does he have multiple marches that will benefit off this zenith skin

[old bear]

Can you give me the tree for mehmed?

[sweet valve]

He will be in Low/mid C seed so he won’t have to spend as many speedups as like A seed kingdoms

[cunning oar]

zenith for 90% of ppl is not worth

[soft mulch]

@old bear

i used this for zeroing cities

[soft mulch]

agreed

[soft mulch]

this zenith skin

does he have multiple marches

cav and inf and archer

that will benefit off of it being a universal skin

[sweet valve]

errrrr he will have archer and inf

[old bear]

How get saladin?

[soft mulch]

and universal skins are much much more contested than the specific troop type

everyone wants them

[soft mulch]

kvk2 in wheel of fortune

[charred goblet]

Any indo player here?

[old bear]

When does it start?

[soft mulch]

when kvk starts

i dont know the dates

but very very roughly

like 150-200 days

[terse mason]

Indonesia? India?

[charred goblet]

Indonesia bro

[terse mason]

Ah idk

[spare spire]

Is there a keyboard shortcut for attack march?

[charred goblet]

Im just came back from Few years to play this game again, i just wanna ask some question

[fair dune]

Are you Indonesian?

[terse mason]

Haha ask in #☕〡general if you just wanna chat

[spare spire]

nah

[charred goblet]

Owh i think it must be here cus this channel is, "questions" xD

[terse mason]

Haha

[charred goblet]

But can you answer my question? What newest KD now? And how much time to next KD?

[pliant zephyr]

For duels hou/arthur or hou/nev?

[terse mason]

Newest kd is 3871 and next kd is unknown

[spare spire]

Is there a keyboard shortcut for attack march?

[charred goblet]

Owhh, Unknown? Now they don't show when time next KD?

[terse mason]

They never did

[charred goblet]

3871, how many Times now since that KD exist?

[terse mason]

1 day 3 hrs

[charred goblet]

Really? Hmm i think i Saw when still playing they show the time for next KD

[terse mason]

[charred goblet]

xD

[charred goblet]

And what about 3870?

[amber umbra]

I have a question about the new kvk tec
by the requirement of the last research it seems that I only need to research one of these,
Do these damage reduction researches only affect the troop I'm researching?
For example, this "infantry damage reduction" research,
will it only affect my infantry units?

[terse mason]

2 days 8 hrs

[terse mason]

Yes

[charred goblet]

Ohh it take 1 day++ to create new KD huh, i think i must wait for Few hours

[terse mason]

Na

It's super random

[sweet valve]

is having 1 march with iconic level 4 and 3 stuff better than having 3 meta marches all level iconic 1

[terse mason]

Sometimes it's like less than 20 hrs

At other times it's 3 days or smth

[sweet valve]

alr

[terse mason]

Unless you like garri rally or smth

[somber skiff]

It reduces the damage you take from the troop type on the tech. So the infantry one makes enemy infantry marches do less damage to you

[terse mason]

Wat really?

[charred goblet]

Owhh, I'm curious What factor make it like that, depends on new account?

[terse mason]

No idea but we speculated it's based on the amount of new ppl who joined tat kd

[charred goblet]

Owhh so what about your opinion? It Will take less than 2 day?

[terse mason]

Idk

[somber skiff]

Yeah so you need to do them all even if you only use 1 troop type

[charred goblet]

hmm

[terse mason]

Dam gonna instantly max the siege one

[amber umbra]

thanks 😊

[somber skiff]

No ignore that one if you're in my kvk 👀

[terse mason]

Well

I'm maxing the archer one asap

Qin is stupid

[charred goblet]

can you tell me when new kd appears?

[terse mason]

Sorry

[charred goblet]

owh okay

[old bear]

Can someone suggest me a good video for begginers and f2p commander guides?

[clever wing]

Anyone else lagging since update? how to fix?

[manic chasm]

rok on pc is so shit

[modest vigil]

-# Suggested command: </rokpc:1374685281210335244>

[sweet valve]

Is this best archer gear?

[cunning oar]

for no Qin pairs yes

for Qin better 2 KvK and rest DB

[sweet valve]

Can h send the screenshot for the one for Qin

[sweet valve]

Is that for Qin primary

ok I’ll go that gear ty

[sweet valve]

anyone know how QSH has enough rage to get the secondary to use an active skill if every second he’s spending rage?

[snow chasm]

When mtg event start on july?

[errant rivet]

Is it harmful enough to get muted? I was just joking around with a friend and no one was offended by it

[mighty viper]

There’s not any. Most of the recommended ones are 2+ years old

[austere drum]

We cannot do anything regarding your mute, your only way of contesting it is by reaching out to customer support

[cunning oar]

secondary commander cast skill after primary

so when he consume 1000 rage and use his active, secondary use his active after

[sweet valve]

ik but if he’s constantly spending rage how will he get his active skill

[cunning oar]

his active is when he consume 1000 rage, not when he have 1000 rage

[sweet valve]

Oooooooh

[unborn helm]

Yes

[frosty swallow]

Yeah

[rancid mortar]

How many building speedups should I keep for kvk

[indigo radish]

Are we really going to make an entire set just for one commander tho

[gleaming shore]

Prolly, qins that busted

[indigo radish]

Yeah but by the time you finish the set new archers will be released

[cunning oar]

the difference is minimal

[silent current]

Qins staying for a long time bro

[gleaming shore]

Start spending

[cunning oar]

unless u kick Qin, still gona be good

[grizzled bolt]

should I upgrading towards city hall 25 or take my time and upgrade other stuff im city hall 13

[silent current]

Torwards ch25 yes

[gleaming shore]

speed run 25

[grizzled bolt]

ok

[silent current]

Only do essentials. And make sure youre getting t4

[grizzled bolt]

whats t4

[silent current]

The unit tier

[indigo radish]

Gift flux

[grizzled bolt]

ok so upgrade millitary units to t4

[silent current]

True but like 6 piece db was always goated and 2 kvk 4 piece db will be really nice with new tech

[cunning oar]

yes, but it's more optional, it's not like 222 is trash with it, just less good

so it depends on each person's preference

[ashen umbra]

Hello ✋

[silent current]

I mean we’re talking about the new meta

[cunning oar]

yes, but i just saying is not meta vs trash, is meta vs good

i gona use full DB because cant do 4/2

[silent current]

Doesnt matter for most. F2ps wont be max tech by end of kvk so it wont make a diff for a good chunk of accs unless ur buying atleast popups

[cunning oar]

i gona compare DB to 222 on future

[indigo radish]

The archer equipment on this account is horrendous I don't even know where to start

Might as well dismantle everything and cry

[cunning oar]

atleast gona get refund on legs

[silent current]

Honestly i’d just go 2 kvk 4 db

Already dismantling legs and boots

Might as well dismantle the ians as well

[gleaming shore]

Just restart

[silent current]

This is project avenge

Gotta hit 1b first

[indigo radish]

Facts

[silent current]

Then he can delete acc

[indigo radish]

Should I get the kvk helmet and craft that

[silent current]

Ofc

Only dismantle the rest once u got the db blueprints and enough mats (factoring in dismantling all the other shit) to craft it

Cause its gonna be shit no matter what until its 2 kvk 4 piece or atleast a real set. Might as well have some gear on it so its a little less shit in the meantime

[indigo radish]

I am like 5 patterns off everything 😭

[silent current]

Wont be too long to get all what you need then

Should be like 2 egg cycles roughly assuming u dont get weapon accessory

[indigo radish]

I really want an inf set but cav is next right

[silent current]

Uh why cav next?

[indigo radish]

Next commander out?

After siege of whatever we are getting now

[silent current]

Just let me retire. Fuck new commanders always being talked about

[indigo radish]

Give me all your codes

[silent current]

No

[somber skiff]

I want to see the new siege

[indigo radish]

They have been released haven't they

I saw Mimi with them

[somber skiff]

I mean the new SoC ones that come out in a couple of months. Not the kvk 2 commanders we just got

[indigo radish]

Where do we get the kvk2 ones

I don't remember seeing any event

[somber skiff]

Sovereign keys or kvk 2 wheel

They came out when we had the update

I can't max all 4 ranged commanders though

[indigo radish]

Why sovereign keys

The stats are the same as the epic ones

Put them into the Gold keys

[somber skiff]

Archimedes's 4th skill could be useful. I'm not sure if I want to max a commander for that though

[silent current]

Tbh i hope it has leadership garri and ls/seige this cycle doesnt get pushed back

[silent current]

Tbh it looks like the new ones are better at countering seige

Issue is shooting seige towers with anything does a fine job already

[elfin valley]

anyone knows when monthly special offer is

[rancid mortar]

Will probably be garrison and field

[somber skiff]

What do you mean?

[rancid mortar]

Not siege

[somber skiff]

[rancid mortar]

A better version of hera would be cool

[silent current]

The kvk2 doods

[wraith hull]

When will the swap commander event again? Should be at least one time per year!

[rancid mortar]

Why do you need it once per year

[silent current]

Never

They said so

One time ever

[silent current]

Tbh they just need to slow down meta changes

But f2ps and low spend are already cooked lowkey

[rancid mortar]

Kinda yea

[silent current]

Possible to play but just so much daily activity

[sage fable]

next release cycle is probably going to be mid again

[rancid mortar]

Getting to 4/5 marches is almost impossible for them

Cause just too much to keep up with

[somber skiff]

Hopefully it just adds even more variety

[sage fable]

yea

[rancid mortar]

I hope new cav garrison is insane

Need it for city

[sage fable]

i assume the only commander worth picking up next cycle is the new cav to complete the combo pair

[silent current]

Honestly my f2p isnt at 5 cause it just hasnt had a thing to pair with bq that isnt lc

[sage fable]

phillip or wallace

[silent current]

Skipped

[rancid mortar]

Just need too many commanders you can't get 5 without missing others

[somber skiff]

I'm only at 3 because I need more siege commanders

4 marches for next kvk

[sage fable]

all of them siege?

[silent current]

Yep. It also only got it cause its an old acc

[rancid mortar]

I still need to max Qin, hera and then both new cavs 😢

[somber skiff]

Yeah

[silent current]

Tbh i think imma just do 5511 and hold

[sage fable]

[rancid mortar]

I'll max all

I got 1300 gh rn so by the time new cavs come should be enough

[silent current]

Tbh im probs gonna go for seige for 5th march. Cheap gear and their comms last forever

[somber skiff]

F2P only really gets enough sculptures to do 2 troop types every full cycle or 1 if doing siege

[rancid mortar]

Siege sucks

Its so annoying

[silent current]

Ghajah gonzalo still top meta

[rancid mortar]

Btw you know any kd registering Monday?

[silent current]

And magret babur and all the other mfs are still good

[somber skiff]

Gajah is even better with the new tech

[silent current]

No clue. What seed tho

[rancid mortar]

Any besides D

I just want fights

[silent current]

Let me check in with 1079

[rancid mortar]

Thanks

[silent current]

What time is it for america?

[rancid mortar]

11:49 am rn

[mighty viper]

Between 7AM and noon lol

[rancid mortar]

7am if in Hawaii

[somber skiff]

Good

[silent current]

Ah shit

[rancid mortar]

Kd shouldn't close until Tuesday or Wednesday

Seeing if I can find somewhere last minute tho

[silent current]

Whats the stats of the acc

[rancid mortar]

88m 5.8b kp

Got ~60b rss in bags

1900d speedups

[silent current]

Okay yeah thats set

[rancid mortar]

Yea ill be able to afford a kvk without much time to farm

[somber skiff]

What are your recent kvk stats?

[silent current]

Im just waiting for khan to respond. Wont be fast if its mid day for him

[rancid mortar]

No worries I got a bit

[rancid mortar]

I'll DM

[sweet valve]

in my friends restart would Cav be efficient if he’s low spender and wanting kp

what about Mina 5511 and Baibars?

inf?

He can do Mina 5511 and exp ysg

[thorny falcon]

Should i go all out into combo? are we sure cavs are going combo route?

[cunning oar]

well probably

each unit should follow 1 damage type

[spark elk]

Yea

Likely

Infa = smite cav = combo archer = skill or true dmg but true smg is shit

engi not sure

[silent current]

Nah true damage defo got dropped lol

[thorny falcon]

man i hope next cav is combo cuz i converted all 4 of my hollow square gold stuff to combo

[silent current]

Didnt even convert cyrus to true damage when making him a kvk2 comm

[silent current]

When cj became smite and bert became combo

[thorny falcon]

true dmg is trash though

they should do a skill dmg variation for archers

[silent current]

I mean they made qin insta proc comm effectively

And kept him on skill damage

[thorny falcon]

i think arch/smite/combo variations stay , pincer is a pain though

[tall thorn]

Is pincer bad

[thorny falcon]

its over powered lol

[tall thorn]

oh

I’m winning kvk 2 what special inscription for pincer

should I get

[thorny falcon]

im cav main, maybe others can help with that

[tall thorn]

okay

what does that do

uhh

[thorny falcon]

oh wow

man lilith changed a lot of stuff

[tall thorn]

what’s a special inscription

the golden one ?

[thorny falcon]

legendary one, yeah golden

[tall thorn]

oh

[thorny falcon]

for combo its butterfly incase you wanna go with a cav march

[tall thorn]

I’m gonna swap for bai qi liu Che

[uneven brook]

Any spender guide up-to-date with the current updates I can purchase?

[tall thorn]

I have inf equipment

okay

[thorny falcon]

kings codex discord

[uneven brook]

Spending in general

[thorny falcon]

it has a spending guide channel

[soft heart]

Why

[thorny falcon]

read tos ?

[uneven brook]

Understood, appreciated.

[tall thorn]

also for the armament I’ll apply it on what is the stats it should have

[soft heart]

No I’m not

Where is tos?

[thorny falcon]

bro trying to be smart lmfao, ignore that guy, gonna get booted soon anyway

[sweet valve]

is Huo better expertise or non expertise

[thorny falcon]

non exp

[tall thorn]

also for the armament I’ll apply it on what is the stats it should have ( special inscription )

[sweet valve]

alr

[thorny falcon]

but go arthur-phillip

dont waste gh on huo atp unless you run two cavs

[tall thorn]

ehm they only go up to 3.5

[sweet valve]

Can I do Joan/arthur

[tall thorn]

oh

[thorny falcon]

do you have any exp cav comms now?

[tall thorn]

what’s the all dmg max

ok

[sweet valve]

errrr not rn

[thorny falcon]

2% i think

[thorny falcon]

go arthur phillip

[tall thorn]

should I transmute a armament and if it gets good stats then put the inscription on

[thorny falcon]

joan isnt tier 1 anymore

and huo will be replaced by new combo cav

[tall thorn]

what u mean

I don’t have any all damage 😢

[errant rivet]

They act like bots total useless craps

[glossy bone]

Can anyone tell me when kingdom 3872 will appear?

[thorny falcon]

its fine you dont need it

just go with health

[thorny falcon]

in 3-4 hrs probably

3871 is 1 day 9 hrs old approx, im expecting 3872 to come at 1 day 12 hrs

im planning to start an acc there too lmfao, try number 99999 for doing kvk 1 again cuz SOC is just farm till kvk

[tall thorn]

ok

[cosmic lantern]

How do u get a begginers migration?

[austere drum]

It’s been removed from the game

[cosmic lantern]

Then how come

@austere drum

[mighty viper]

Because they never bothered to update that part

[red surge]

Someone took a pic of this, how does this work and how do I do it?

[cosmic lantern]

Thats not real

[red surge]

Uhhh, wrong

[cosmic lantern]

Oh wait that refund for old crit equipemnt

[red surge]

Ah

[cosmic lantern]

bc in update notes they said they would

[red surge]

Word

[radiant perch]

might be a stupid question but the wording is vague so i need to clarify for my sanity

is march speed reduction the same as a slow

[verbal jackal]

Came back from a little break from rok started a new account today

And what the actualy fuck did they do

How did vengeance become a fucking thing

And wtf is the new commander leveling

[mighty viper]

Came out with vengeance event

[mighty viper]

New event that was rolled out unannounced like a month ago

[verbal jackal]

Is it permanent?

[mighty viper]

We have no clue because nothing about the event has been officially communicated

[verbal jackal]

Dam

Thanks for the help

[mighty viper]

You’re welcome. Unfortunately you are trying to restart during a rather poor time to restart

[verbal jackal]

Yea

Also sorry one more question wtf happened to the cao cao drop rate

I have opened i think 9 chest and I have 26 heads

[mighty viper]

Oh he’s just the only gold key commander for the first few weeks

[verbal jackal]

WTF

Bro i might try kingshot out

[mighty viper]

Another change that maybe about a year ago with little communication

[verbal jackal]

It didn't look the worst

Well thanks for the help

[mighty viper]

You’re welcome

[verbal jackal]

Have a good day

[mighty viper]

You too

[verbal jackal]

Thanks

[sweet valve]

Does skill damage bonus affect Combo damage

[cunning oar]

no

combo get affected by normal damage buff

[sweet valve]

ok

[lethal jacinth]

Should I be using ap on offseason fort soc to get books

[cunning oar]

just use daily ap

try get 15% ap rune and stuff

and solo with farm if can

[lethal jacinth]

Don’t have a farm

Daily ap it is

Why u want them

Waste of ap

[cunning oar]

eventually you will want at least 1

[tacit iron]

When you help build an alliance resource center will your troops automatically gather there after the resource center is built?

[arctic dawn]

Yes

[pure lantern]

does anyone know the cycle for 20gh events?

[mighty viper]

Yes

[radiant perch]

kvk 1 how many honour points to win on avg like spitballin

[soft heart]

How fast can I get T4 with 100$

[gritty sundial]

Does anyone know next more than gems event ?

[warm bough]

should I work on her expertise, my Joan is 5521 and suntzu is 5531(my starting comm)

[cunning oar]

work on SunTzu first

[warm bough]

why spend on him if im gonna get him expertised either way?

[cunning oar]

will depends 'when'

[frosty swallow]

If close to kvk exp asap

[warm bough]

pretty sure I can get him for free until kvk

[warm bough]

lemme see my kd age

[cunning oar]

if u think so, what pair u gona run, Sun/Aeth?

[warm bough]

25d

[warm bough]

yes

[cunning oar]

If you think you can get exp sun without universal, do matilda, but it's at your own risk.

[warm bough]

you think It'll be hard?

[frosty swallow]

i'll exp sun tzu first to be safe

[warm bough]

alright

better safe than sorry

[frosty swallow]

yes

[warm bough]

after I exp him I can freely work on matilda?

[frosty swallow]

yes

[warm bough]

Joan isn't worth expertise since she doesn't give gathering buff yeah?

just tryna work on my economic stuff first

don't even have t4 rn

[frosty swallow]

unlock it asap

[frosty swallow]

the only ones you need to improve in economics are mathematics and engineering to lvl 10

After that focus on ur main troops tech

[warm bough]

I'm upgrading maths to lvl9 rn I'll get it to 10 and then do it

t4 siege don't matter yes?

[frosty swallow]

no

most of the time no, can be use in some kvk

[warm bough]

what's the use?

engineering isn't unlocked till later no?

[cunning oar]

try to align the use of speedups with events

t4 siege is niche

most ppl dont use

[frosty swallow]

There is a kvk in which with an artifact you can "transform" your siege into anothers troops

dont remember the name

[raw lodge]

Why does this happen ? Would appreciate it if anyone helps.

[craggy veldt]

started an account in new server and only CC is available in gold keys when do more generals get added?

[raw lodge]

No it’s my main acc

I just can’t send rss

It just returns without transferring the rss

I thought it was something I don’t know

Lmao

[oak edge]

Somebody know how the season works, cs I don't play since like 3 years and I'm stuck in a kingdom with no players in the last season

And idk how to go back to the first or how it works

[terse mason]

Restart

Only option at this point

[oak edge]

How

U mean from 0

Cs I can go for free to other kingdom

[fervent shore]

What do is the lowest kvk a soc account can go?

[oak edge]

So I can't go to the other seasons?

[terse mason]

Wdym

[terse mason]

Nope

[cunning oar]

It depends on the age of the account, technically you can go to season 2

[oak edge]

Okay

[oak edge]

Yes u don't play since a couple of years

I*

[fervent shore]

to migrate I mean

[cunning oar]

said for that

[terse mason]

So kd?

I think current it's smth like 3268

[cunning oar]

He wants to know which season a soc account can migrate to

[fervent shore]

Ig like kvk season

[terse mason]

[cunning oar]

depends on acc age

[terse mason]

Any low D seed

[cunning oar]

e asj like kvk2 or kvk3

[fervent shore]

Oh 2?

[terse mason]

[cunning oar]

i said, depends on acc age

Technically you can go to kvk2, but it depends on your age

[fervent shore]

1 year and a half old and I haven’t played on it in a while

[cunning oar]

most likely no

[terse mason]

Sometimes

[wet chasm]

Who should I be getting from the legendary tavern?

In SoC rn

[terse mason]

You wanna drop a gc or do it with gems?

You could do tat ya

How urgent is it

Then wait before wasting

Ye...cuz after all there's a chance tat commander will be mid asf, just like ww when blud released

I remember the crazy hype around him

Then he releases just to be mid asf

I mean

Do 3 smite trust

Lc/alex, gorgo/bq, ww/phillip or smth

Scipio ae exists too ya

Wat

Bq is 5 target aoe nub

I mean

[sly kindle]

Hello, may someone help me please

[terse mason]

Technically you could TRY to run 4 smite

[sly kindle]

I am new to the game, which one should I focus on ?

[terse mason]

Sun tzu

[sly kindle]

Another one, everyone telling me to focus on sun tzu, and I dont know what can I do with him

He is very weak

[terse mason]

No

Lol

Fr ye

[naive yarrow]

Why when i create a new account i dont have the beginner immigration

So jumping is no longer possible ?

[frosty swallow]

no

[terse mason]

Removed it

[naive yarrow]

Thx

[sly kindle]

He is weakk 😂😂

He is not good for barbs

😂😂😂😂😂😂

For what should I use him ??

Cao cao is stronger than him while he is lvl 10 only

[spark elk]

Cao cao is ass bro

Shut up if you dont know what you are talking about

[sly kindle]

You all talking shit even tho I typed at first that I am new to the game

[spark elk]

Then you proceed to talk like you have experience in the game

[sly kindle]

You are definitely bunch of kids who dont even know how to be respectful

[spark elk]

You are a person who doesn't know how to interact with people properly

[sly kindle]

Either you give your opinion or just close your mouth

[spark elk]

See what you said?

[sly kindle]

I didnt ask you to love me bro

[frosty swallow]

Dont fall for ragebait guys

[sly kindle]

Who are you ??

[spark elk]

You act like you know everything

[frosty swallow]

Well he is either stupid or ragebaiting

[spark elk]

I quit with ragebait😭

[frosty swallow]

hard to tell

[spark elk]

Room temperature iq

[sly kindle]

He is shit just like the one who raised you to be that one shitty person

[sly kindle]

😂😂😂😂

[spark elk]

No ones fixing his bitch personality

[sly kindle]

You never saw him probably

He went to bring milk when you were a kid

[sly kindle]

I know

[frosty swallow]

Talking about fam just for a game is crazy work

[spark elk]

Just dont mine the ragebait

[terse mason]

Oh shi

[sly kindle]

Well fam should be brought if there is someone who didn’t get raised right

[spark elk]

Easiest ragebait to spot

[terse mason]

I see beef here

Ragebait ahh

[sly kindle]

Yea yea

Obviously

[spark elk]

Nah its just a room temperature iq individual who doesnt know sun tzu's power

[frosty swallow]

fr

[sly kindle]

You cant even keep a respectful conversation

[terse mason]

[sly kindle]

Sun tzu said that too ?

Insane

Aha

Ask him to raise you to be better

Maybe learn manners

Idc but you cant talk to me like that, when I literally stated that I am new to the game and I was seeking suggestions which one should I focus on

Exactly bro

Stop being a kid

[spark elk]

You acted like you knew everything, how the heck are we supposed to help you

[sly kindle]

Yea and I am saying that he is shit with me because I dont see him useful in my situation

Just tell me how to use him and where to use him

[sly kindle]

Haaaaa ??

Where I acted that I knew everything ?

[spark elk]

Here??

[sly kindle]

Yea

You want me to show u ?

[spark elk]

??

[sly kindle]

When I pus boudica and cao cao they have more power than boudica and sun tzu

[spark elk]

Theres more proof but I don't want to keep scrolling up to get proof

[frosty swallow]

Even if he act like sht he has better game knowledge than u

[spark elk]

Oh lord

[frosty swallow]

commander power dont mean anything

[spark elk]

Commander power is useless

[sly kindle]

Then what is important

If I want to fight barbs

I am using boudica as a main

[spark elk]

The commander's skills

[frosty swallow]

Epic commander with "peace keeping" talent tree

Should not use legendary except aethel

[spark elk]

Don't use Boudica as a main commander

[sly kindle]

What should I use

Those are my commanders

[spark elk]

I'd just do markswoman much cheaper

[spark elk]

Sun Tzu

[frosty swallow]

at the early game u need to kill barbs

not a lot but need to kill some

[sly kindle]

Dont tell him

[spark elk]

Early game is mostly barbs

[sly kindle]

He knows better

[spark elk]

Once u reach late game then its mostly fighting other players

[sly kindle]

I have 600k power I cant even fight lvl 15 barb without losing a lot

[spark elk]

Thats a troop problem

Not a commander problem

I'd just rather use markswoman

Very cheap peacekeeper

Good for early game

[frosty swallow]

best advice is to not start the game at all lmao early game is sht

And rok is one of the worst game for begginer

[spark elk]

Fr

[frosty swallow]

most of the people who play only play because they have a "good account"

[sly kindle]

I know

I started like probably 2 weeks ago

I just reached 600k

[spark elk]

Restart

Or quit

[frosty swallow]

600k in 2 weak is pretty bad

[sly kindle]

And most of the people in my kingdom are around 2-3m now

[spark elk]

Yea thats normal

[frosty swallow]

best option

[spark elk]

Yea

[sly kindle]

Haa

How

[spark elk]

600k i got in 3 days and i thought thats bad lol

[sly kindle]

Unluckyy

[terse mason]

[terse mason]

I mean it's aight

Yes.

[sly kindle]

I am always building and training

[frosty swallow]

https://tenor.com/view/hsr-honkai-honkai-star-rail-honkai-impact-sparkle-gif-6553346797338233809

[sly kindle]

And I dont get power at all

Now I am on ch lvl 13

[terse mason]

Yatta

[sly kindle]

And my researches are max

[craggy burrow]

he might not p2w

yea

[terse mason]

Cooked, fried and put on a plate

[sly kindle]

Okay yea, thank you guys

I am not sure if I will restart, probably play in this account learn more then restart

Thank you tho

[frosty swallow]

Good luck bro

[grizzled bolt]

I have 30+ 60m skips do I use those and rush upgrades so I can lvl up city hall

[echo canyon]

bets way to get honor points or general be valueable in kvk

[terse mason]

Reach your dkp

[echo canyon]

and honor?

[terse mason]

Barb chaining

[echo canyon]

i see i see

[wet chasm]

Is there anyone worth to get from the legendary tavern for the 10 sculptures? I have Liu che, nevsky, Alex, scipio prime, philip, and beli prime

[sage fable]

get heads of the ones you are using

[wet chasm]

Is it worth getting anyone else?

[sage fable]

uh, better off maxing the ones you are using on open field

only reason to get others is if you want WOH

[wet chasm]

wb for champs of olymp

[sage fable]

[terse mason]

No

[visual kayak]

Is QSH good

[sage fable]

very good

[dusk briar]

when is next znieth?

[runic flax]

What is the budget build for a Attila/subutai build?

[cunning oar]

budget in what

[runic flax]

skill levels

[cunning oar]

https://tenor.com/view/that's-the-neat-thing-that's-the-neat-part-invincible-gif-3109787441708074597

[runic flax]

Don't wworry it's not SOC

We are against natives kvk 4

[cunning oar]

dont think change much, u dont rally/garri at any season with unmax, atleast u should't

[frosty swallow]

If u want to give them free kp u can

[cunning oar]

u have a point

[frosty swallow]

[grizzled bolt]

will sun tzu and kusunoki be better than sun tzu and joan

[rancid mortar]

Id hate to see my rally lead asking this question

[final kraken]

Need a kd for me and my friend, I'm from 3847

[rancid mortar]

3045 is accepting dw currently

Yea

And my former kd

[final kraken]

45 got the star right?

[rancid mortar]

He's decent

About to escape dw category

[rancid mortar]

They got 1

From like 10 kvks

[final kraken]

No 3847 bro

I thought you meant 3845

[rancid mortar]

Ok this guys an idiot

Should be at 10b

Dw trash

Go to 45

[final kraken]

Huh

[rancid mortar]

What even are your stats

Wait you got 5b kp?

I really expected you to be like 70m 300m kp

[final kraken]

Anyone from 3846?

[runic flax]

We have rally leads using huo/arthur to rally bro

[cunning oar]

read last part

[runic flax]

bro we are Second strongest A seed kvk 3

[runic flax]

im just trying to help

if there is a budget build better than huo/arthur for attila subutai

[cunning oar]

i just said u dont really budget a rally, better dont rally at all

[runic flax]

i can try it

[grizzled bolt]

wym by budget a rally like put half troops?

[cunning oar]

no, unmax skills

[grizzled bolt]

ok

[runic flax]

alr

[grizzled bolt]

am I not able to reset a commander more than once

[sage fable]

mf you said you arent shit talking 3045 anymore

[terse mason]

I shit talk 3045 before axer even

All cuz I was in 3035

[sage fable]

they are dead now

[terse mason]

Ye...all hail prime 35

[sage fable]

3045 outlasted them, we won in the end 🙏

[terse mason]

You guys still got rekt kvk 3 and 4 and lost your biggest whale

[sage fable]

yea that was old leadership

they dipped in kvk 5

[rancid mortar]

I'm not wdym

I'm helping you recruit

[sage fable]

they gotta do forts at least

[rancid mortar]

That's up to you to find out

[terse mason]

Ya I remember moonlight was in 45

Before betraying y'all and coming to 35

[rancid mortar]

When 77 registering

[terse mason]

[rancid mortar]

?

Or 79

Same thing

[sage fable]

yea i dont know, i was a t4 noob back then

[rancid mortar]

Still are

[sage fable]

t5 now 🙏

[rancid mortar]

Even worse

[terse mason]

We're getting rekt

[rancid mortar]

Damn

[terse mason]

Nub

[sage fable]

show stats

[terse mason]

Left vs right

So 3379 + 1846

Vs

[rancid mortar]

Oh you're fighting 846

They're bums

[terse mason]

2359 + 1184

[terse mason]

No

[rancid mortar]

You guys are 300b kp

Damn you guys suck

[terse mason]

40 mains

[sage fable]

why isnt the picture arranged in the same location as the map

who tf made your sheet

[terse mason]

Dunno don't ask me

[rancid mortar]

I didn't know you were almost at 45 level

[terse mason]

[sage fable]

what kd is he

lemme pull up last kvk stats

[rancid mortar]

1077

Or 1079

[terse mason]

Yes

[terse mason]

No

[rancid mortar]

Yes

[terse mason]

Hell na we did so bad

Camp mates took recovery kvk

[sage fable]

has fights already started in your kvk?

[terse mason]

Ye

We got rekt in z5, everyone traded negative against 2359

[sage fable]

they are better

[terse mason]

I mean tho, 1184 got more rekt against 846

[terse mason]

Well in tat kvk, 3154 our camp mates took a recovery kvk

[rancid mortar]

Set it up

45 vs 77

[sage fable]

we would get fucked

[rancid mortar]

You can get me, skee and a few others to come carry

After Zenith I'll be like 120m

[terse mason]

Well how many mains y'all have?

[rancid mortar]

They have maybe 5

[terse mason]

[rancid mortar]

I don't count t4 speds running Liu aethfled as a main

[terse mason]

Well, if you want some gud 77 stats, look like 4 kvks back

Cuz since then it's been kinda bad

[sage fable]

like 65

[terse mason]

Depending on their stats etc we may lose if we don't end the fight in our uptime

But if we get camp mates you guys will get rekt 100%

[rancid mortar]

When would your next kvk be

[terse mason]

No idea tbh, depends on how much we'll get rekt in kl

[sage fable]

how long is your uptime

and how bad is your downtime

[terse mason]

Not as short as those chinese kds

[rancid mortar]

Will you be out by September

Need 77 vs 45

[terse mason]

[terse mason]

Likely I think

[rancid mortar]

Maybe I'll join 45 or 77 for that kvk

[rancid mortar]

Wait there's no way you will be if you just entered kvk

[sage fable]

you got denied

[rancid mortar]

Illegaly migrate

Easy

[terse mason]

Na, we finished our z5 like a few days ago

[rancid mortar]

Oh you may actually be out by then

[terse mason]

Mb no, it was a week ago

Time really flies huh

[rancid mortar]

If you're out by September lmk

[terse mason]

I think we'll be out

[rancid mortar]

Nice

I assume I can get accepted to 77

[terse mason]

Bring like alot more ppl with you ya?

[rancid mortar]

Probably not

[terse mason]

Rn our open field is so shit with 40 accounts

[rancid mortar]

I'll do ~2b kp

[sage fable]

bro is not going to cook

[rancid mortar]

What

I got 5 solid marches

60b rss

[terse mason]

I think our current situation is prolly bit worse garri and rally than current day 1034, better uptime than them, worse open field tho

[rancid mortar]

1900d speedups

[terse mason]

We'll need a campmate with gud open field

Ideally a young kd like our current campmates

[rancid mortar]

Is 77 ozai kd

Or was that 79

[terse mason]

Yep

79 still high A seed

[echo canyon]

how are people getting honor so fast lol

i dont get it

[terse mason]

Spend ap

[echo canyon]

were 1:30h in this bitch and 5k points what the helly

[echo canyon]

isnt it smarter to wait for higher barbs

?

[proper basalt]

dang that's stacked

[terse mason]

Exactly

[true sorrel]

Imma be real i hate chaining with aeth so much

when can i replace with circle aoe

and when do i invest

not trying to invest too much because i still need to upgrade bq and get qsh afterward

[dawn isle]

Wth does this do bro

[echo canyon]

Mhmm

[azure crag]

What's better to do in path of vengeance event finish early or wait till it ends

[torn egret]

bro read the description…

[spark elk]

Stay on stage before the last and farm afk rewards

[azure crag]

Ok thx

[dawn isle]

I did
Still don't understand
I searched everywhere where I could use and can't

[spark elk]

U use on legendary armaments with inscriptions on it

To reroll the attributes of the armaments

[lone flint]

If I’m at 675k and ch 15 3 days into a kd as f2p, am I on track for lotus?

[limber yoke]

can someone help me in champions of olympia i have soc commanders

[young kestrel]

question, why does every bastion want my mats?

[proper basalt]

it's for when you have 7 maxed out sets of gear. there's nothing else to spend mats on

[young kestrel]

[tall thorn]

what is rewards for winning kvk 3?

[wraith yoke]

How is my restart account kingdoms is 1 day old?

[teal halo]

Anyone got a leadership lineup for coo kvk 1?

[teal halo]

Good

[teal halo]

Current 1 I got rn

[shut sapphire]

When is mtg

[outer estuary]

is creating my account when the kingdom is only 10 hours old bad if im trying to push my acc ad far as possible for low spender

[tacit iron]

Is there a minimum time before the merchant comes back?

[green venture]

Charles Martel use which Formation?

[teal halo]

Should I?

[summer inlet]

Dms

[teal halo]

F2p for forts

[tacit iron]

After clearing the fog, will you get to explore the caves again?

[arctic dawn]

You can use Hera or Zhuge to chain
Depending if your on Season of Conquest. Otherwise good luck, Other one I can think of is Expertised YSG(For KvK 1-2) 🙏

[terse mason]

Yes lmao

[violet dawn]

Who are some good commanders for sunset canyon?

Also I have 100 days of speedups saved and 125k gems as a fairly new player just wondering when I should use them I don’t think I can do much in mge because there is a few whales in my kingdom

[spare spire]

What is the keyboard shortcut for attack march?

[terse mason]

For now, just use sun/aethel as one pair

Fill the rest with any comms you got lucky with, like cc or martel who you got from gold keys and epics

[violet dawn]

These are my commanders I have heaps of exp