Replace the barn sequence with the Beta barn sequence and have us play as the Missing Journalist. It should be a flashback, and it will explain how Missing Journalist went missing. He got kidnapped by the Guest
#Replace the Barn Tutorial with the Beta Barn Tutorial to explain a event that happened in the story
tropic pier
cedar magnet
Thank you Mr Apple for another great Hello Suggestion
mystic marsh
Beautiful!i love this ideaaa
low condor
Replace the barn sequence with the Beta barn sequence and have us play as the Mi...
It also does a great job establishing the guest as a character and threat
peak solstice
It also does a great job establishing the guest as a character and threat
Yeah
Full game intro doesnt do that
Really
manic sun
yes
shrewd kernel
mental agate
I hope the devs see this suggestion
gaunt dragon
I like this, but I feel like that would break some established things in the AS lore, but can be fixed so yeah 👍🏻.
peak solstice
I like this, but I feel like that would break some established things in the AS ...
well hn 2 isnt fully AS lore
its kind of a mix of old and AS lore
gaunt dragon
its kind of a mix of old and AS lore
Not really
peak solstice
It is
peak solstice
Nope both
gaunt dragon
Is placeholders
gaunt dragon
Nah really
Yeah
Like I’ve said before
They hit a deadline
They can’t just get new everything
That’s why half of everything is considered non lore exploration
Because it’s all just placeholders from Old HN2
peak solstice
They can’t just get new everything
Dont think they will continue with new lore though for hn 2
gaunt dragon
Dont think they will continue with new lore though for hn 2
Hahaha.
peak solstice
Like most want the old lore back for the games so it would be the best choice
gaunt dragon
Like most want the old lore back for the games so it would be the best choice
Don’t think Alex would care
It’s also confirmed AS and Current HN2 are shared Universes
That’s why Old lore related stuff are placeholders
Leftovers from Old HN2
That they couldn’t change in time
low condor
It’s also confirmed AS and Current HN2 are shared Universes
Worst decision ever. If they keep this then I will abandon all hopes for this game
gaunt dragon
Its not placeholders
It literally is but ok.
low condor
The animated series is the worst version of the story
gaunt dragon
Worst decision ever. If they keep this then I will abandon all hopes for this ga...
Yeah
gaunt dragon
The animated series is the worst version of the story
Fax
low condor
It literally is but ok.
Placeholders implies they will change it.
peak solstice
Worst decision ever. If they keep this then I will abandon all hopes for this ga...
Well to be honest it would be hard enjoying the game
low condor
They wont lmao
low condor
Alex is just stupid. He should have let the games be seperate from the AS. Especially considering the AS retcons the entire of hn1 for frick sake
gaunt dragon
Placeholders implies they will change it.
Yeah, they are placeholders from Old Lore, literally all of the stuff Old Lore related were leftovers from Old HN2, they just kept them because they couldn’t change them in time, as they hit the deadline, and they are most likely too lazy to change them and don’t see a point in doing so.
gaunt dragon
Alex is just stupid. He should have let the games be seperate from the AS. Espec...
Yeah
peak solstice
Yeah, they are placeholders from Old Lore, literally all of the stuff Old Lore r...
But like sn got new old lore added
low condor
At this point im more excited for fangames than official stuff because alex insists on everything being tied to his shitty cartoon
gaunt dragon
But like sn got new old lore added
Yeah, they are continuing it in SN, like bro, same shit with VR.
low condor
Yeah, they are placeholders from Old Lore, literally all of the stuff Old Lore r...
They literally added book illustrations tho...
In patches
So they are taking shit from the books
peak solstice
They literally added book illustrations tho...
True
So maybe
We are geting it back
low condor
The best thing we will get is mixed lore at this point
gaunt dragon
They literally added book illustrations tho...
Yeah no shit they based the books on AS in a poorly made way, they just redesigned stuff to re use, anyways no point in arguing this.
gaunt dragon
The best thing we will get is mixed lore at this point
God no
peak solstice
Yeah no shit they based the books on AS in a poorly made way, they just redesign...
Well wait
peak solstice
The best thing we will get is mixed lore at this point
Hope not
That would be weird
low condor
"Books dont adapt to animation" proceeds to make a shittier version of the books story
I hate AS nicky genuinely the worst version of the character. Even hn1 nicky made more sense
gaunt dragon
Anyways if they do bring back Canon Lore, we probably won’t see it until like end of the year, as they still have other focused and we asked for Old Lore back as they were working on Patch 9.
peak solstice
Anyways if they do bring back Canon Lore, we probably won’t see it until like en...
Nah it might be already
The teaser
Have broken stuff
Around the town
low condor
If we keep asking maybe eventually they will listen. If they continue with the AS lore I will genuinely not buy another hn game ever
No point at that that point tbh
When the lore is shit and written for 5 year olds then whats the point?
The AS is just alex's way of telling the older fans to piss off because he is more interested in getting new young fans
gaunt dragon
Around the town
That could quite literally be to give a vibe for the teaser, it barely means much really, that’s like seeing a flashback of Tony Stark in a MCU film and saying he’s going to return.
gaunt dragon
If we keep asking maybe eventually they will listen. If they continue with the A...
We will see
low condor
He is embracing the worst prts of this franchise with the AS
proper lodge
When the lore is shit and written for 5 year olds then whats the point?
Maybe we will eventually get a game with good ai?
gaunt dragon
Maybe we will eventually get a game with good ai?
Not wrong there
low condor
Maybe we will eventually get a game with good ai?
If its being made for 5 year olds with shitty writing then whats the point?
One of the main appeals of hn for me is the story
The AS ruined that
low condor
Hn2 cant even be considered canon
proper lodge
Its way too complicated and relies on external media like books and other garbage I really don't care about
peak solstice
The story is worthless to me
Its one of the Main points for me
peak solstice
Its way too complicated and relies on external media like books and other garbag...
The books isnt garbage
Not at all
They are very good in fact
low condor
Its way too complicated and relies on external media like books and other garbag...
The book lore was simple then they messed it up with the AS and it doesnt make sense. And the books were good
The books werent garbage bro
gaunt dragon
Its way too complicated and relies on external media like books and other garbag...
Call the books garbage again I swear.
proper lodge
I'm not saying the book lore is garbage, I just have no interest in external media that I have to buy to understand my video game.
low condor
They had a good story but then the AS comes in makes shitty lore
peak solstice
I'm not saying the book lore is garbage, I just have no interest in external med...
You dont have too though to understand
proper lodge
Exactly
low condor
I'm not saying the book lore is garbage, I just have no interest in external med...
Thats a flaw of the games not the books. Hn2 has the same problem but WORSE
low condor
Theres no story in hn2
peak solstice
Into things
proper lodge
Which is why the lore being dumbed down into nonsense in hn2 is fine with me, because I don't understand the broader lore
It's just "save kid" which sucks, but if they make the game around it fun then hell yeah
Sadly they haven't made it fun
But I hold out hope
low condor
Bro is okay with them scrapping YEARS worth of lore 💀
proper lodge
I am personally yeah
low condor
It's just "save kid" which sucks, but if they make the game around it fun then h...
Hnvr hinted at old hn2 doing so much more than that
proper lodge
The lore is worthless to me, doesn't mean I don't feel sorry for all the people that care
low condor
How can you be invested when the AI isnt even good and the story is shit?
proper lodge
It's just for me, in my opinion it makes no difference
low condor
Hn2 has shittier AI than hn1
proper lodge
How can you be invested when the AI isnt even good and the story is shit?
My point is that it may eventually become fun
low condor
I cant enjoy it if its not even canon
The cartoon is genuinely the worst thing to come out of this franchise (except sn roblox)
peak solstice
My point is that it may eventually become fun
The story is a big part
Of my enjoyment
proper lodge
I feel bad for you that that's how you feel
Since the lore is getting a major beat down
low condor
I cant enjoy hn2 until they make the god damn story make sense
Hnvr will probs be the last good hn game that I enjoy
peak solstice
Understand
The story becouse i loved the mystery
proper lodge
It makes sense standalone if you consider a game's sequel not canon for some bizarre reason
proper lodge
To all the youtubers it makes sense, which is probably all that mattered for alex
low condor
The kid you are saving in Hn2 is meant to be dead by this point
If not then he is captured by the guest
peak solstice
Like i was really sad about the story tbh
low condor
And the intro makes no sense if you consider hn1 act 2
low condor
The story was the main keeping me invested because the gameplay was most of the time just bad
peak solstice
Like i wondered to myself who was the guest or what was he what is gonna happen etc
I thought the finale would be a guest boss battle
low condor
It feels like evertthing I like about hn is just being ignored or thrown away
peak solstice
I thought the park
Would be where the finale battle with guest
Would take place
And maybe he transforms into something
And i honestly thought it would be something like this when botting up the game for the first time
gaunt dragon
And the intro makes no sense if you consider hn1 act 2
HUH?
gaunt dragon
The timing
Oh
low condor
But it implies that didnt happen
But then the cops appear the next day
Implying it did happen
peak solstice
Well Quentin arrived like a minute after Nicky made it home
Still
Its weird
At least to me
low condor
Well Quentin arrived like a minute after Nicky made it home
Thats a dumb excuse and just makes it more complicated
peak solstice
Like why doesnt Quentin have a missing poster of Quentin in his journal
low condor
Quentin just so happens to miss Nicky
gaunt dragon
Like why doesnt Quentin have a missing poster of Quentin in his journal
What?
gaunt dragon
But not nicky
Cuz his focus was on them
peak solstice
Nope
It was on missing kids in general
If you are talking about Quentin
Focus
Remember he opens hes journal in the intro
gaunt dragon
Nope
His focus was literally on who was the culprit behind the Peterson kids going missing Wth.
peak solstice
His focus was literally on who was the culprit behind the Peterson kids going mi...
No it was missing
Children
It Said so in the journal
gaunt dragon
No it was missing
Then where was Nicky
gaunt dragon
It Said so in the journal
Yeah Missing Kids, as in they are Missing…Kids.
gaunt dragon
I guess he escaped already
No
gaunt dragon
Yeah Missing Kids, as in they are Missing…Kids.
We see he’s focusing on a Culprit on the Peterson kids it’s as simple as that, no BS or anything.
gaunt dragon
Wait this post is a beta intro post
Yeah let’s go
low condor
This is getting off topic
gaunt dragon
tropic pier
Even under this post it's still the same discussion...
Honestly next time i wont even make a post that relates to lore in any way
proper lodge
Everyone just forgot it was your post for a while apparently
low condor
Even under this post it's still the same discussion...
I dont even know what happend