#Updates are absolutely DESTROYING the AI
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i closed a door right in front of the cop and he stopped chasing me and went to the porch
wait are you playing on console
nvm
yeah... no difference
one stops in his tracks and chases you for 5 sec then loses you
the other loses track to...
while i disagree that the updates are distroying the ai cause they are the same still and before patch 1 ai wasent amazing i still agree that patch 7 should be about upgrading the ai
"HN2 AI on the launch was amazing, barely froze"
Im sorry but this sentence is dead wrong
HOW!? On launch the AI barely functioned. Now it's extremely advanced and difficult to overcome. The release day AI freezes up loads, while the revamped one doesn't most of the time.
I thought the ai got better at chasing you in patch 6
It did
I’m a console player, and the AI is only decent it’s able to chase you, but you can easily lose it, just run around and jump the AI and it can’t do nothing, meanwhile from what I’ve seen in Patch 6, the AI can actually chase you well, and it’s impossible to juke it, and can still cut corners, all you have to do is go through the bathroom window and run to the kitchen back door and the Mayor will already be there.
I do agree, there should be a Patch ONLY focused on AI
Otto's ai on ps4 sucked for me. Like sometimes he would lose me if I was in the same room as him.
Same
"HN2 AI on launch was amazing, barely Froze, could keep up with the player"
Me when i lie
Either that or bro is straight up from an alternate universe
He probably just had a really good PC with high fps
this whole post is just a lie what
"ai barely froze and was amazing" no it was not???????
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so do i
yet from what ive seen the ai had only gotten better every update
according to this big brained guy here the ai sucks now and launch version was perfect
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"ai never cuts you off since patch 6"
yes because it sure did cut you off in any other version right
the only time the AI cut you off was when running in circles around the shelf with Gerda in the Bakery
and that like barely even classifies as cutting the player off
You guys are clueless why do you think I provided a video showing what I'm saying lol
Go play patch 5, it very much does
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It kinda scares me cuz TB only check the post and not the post feeds, so that mean TB will actually take this as a consideration and EGS will think of making the AI more like launch version 💀, which as a console player, YOU DO NOT WANT.
There’s barely anywhere to cut off, it does have potential to do better cut offs, like room level cut offs, like cutting you off from an exit or room.
Console AI actually works right now cause its old ai which works at 30fps, the new ai is horrible at 30fps
hence the video lol
please stop talking or else youre going to get egs to ruin their game by bringing back their old ai
The launch AI was better anyway besides the features they added
it was not
just play the launch version again you will see what I mean
someones living in denial..
Go watch the video lol its literally proof
yeah somehow got worse for you and better for everyone else
youre either playing on an old save or using some weird mods that cause this
just go in the game and lock it to 30fps lol
..what the hell is the point of that supposed to be??
why would i lock my game to 30 fps
to see the bad AI
it depends on fps
and the old AI is far better
Like I said, watch the video
yeah just like the launch version
so ai is worse if i lock my fps so they should bring back their launch day ai that was bad because its better when your game is locked to 30 fps
Not saying Old ai is good, but its exceptionally better than the new one
Its in the video lol
no
test it lol
no mr big brain here knows better even tho he doesnt play on console
I have the game on both PS4 and PC and i can assure you console AI is not better
Listen while the ai has definitely improved I must agree with agw that while in the console cutting of mechanic was bad it really did cut you off a tiny bit and I hope they fix
oh my god you call us clueless while youre literally denying someone that has console and can tell the ai is worse
Console AI isnt better than pc, launch AI was better and had way better navigation
I have console and pc lol
Console AI is the launch AI though?
hes saying that the updates destroyed the ai
ais not cutting you off(they never properly did btw) is not destroying the ai
But at such low fps
this is me when i talk nonsense
this is me when i talk even more nonsense
this isnt about AI cutting off, its about navigation when they are chasing you
Yea but I kinda agree to be honest I’dont think it’s destroying the ai but it doesn’t even try to cut us off longer.
Each update has literally made it worse lol
except you live in denial and force yourself to think otherwise
Updates didnt made the navigation worse though. AGW what are you talking about???
it did not
I have it in the video I posted
I dont know what you want from me lol its video proof
how are you gonna deny that lol
dont worry he knows better then us clearly
theres 2 people agreeing with him and the other 10 people not agreeing but hes right ok
They must fix the ai not cutting us off. They must it can’t just chase you
Thank you
Launch AI doesnt even freeze at 30fps
they must not
i want the ai to chase you i dont want the ai to attempt to cut you off when they stil cant
@final quarry you would know that
ai cutting off never worked
it works just fine lol
If the AI doesnt cut us off the AI is just HN1 ai but worse navigation and slower
what is this guy talking about anymore😭
AGW playing a different build of HN2
I have every single build of hn2 l0ol
and AI gets gradually worse the later we get
me when i lie
Like all I think they has to do is fix the ai not cutting us off and then it will be good.
geniuenly delete this lying piece of feedback before egs actually ends up ruining the game again
exactly
You must be playing a different build than were playing, if you actually think that
it never cut you off
it froze whenever it tried to
it didnt freeze
???
it tried to turn in place
It didn’t fully do that I agree but it tried too but it was very broken.
it freezes less often and if the ai can chase me thats good enough i do not care about cutting off i care about ai chasing properly
the AI doesnt freeze when close to you, it was an intentional feature, which was stupid
is this opposite day
I just explained lol
my head hurts
Why are everyone so mad lol
launch day ai always froze when it started chasing you
it does it less now
still does but not as much
Like I said, tried to turn in place, it wasnt freezing
and youre literally lying to youself by telling you otherwise
freezing is what I showed in the end of the video
thats still freezing
yes it is the ai freezes in order to turn in place
Its completely different from the freezing in freeroam for example
freeroam is the same as not freeroam..
Oh your out of your mind
Im not trolling
I even have the dev version of the game to see how the AI works
And the system is amazing
As a console player, I don’t understand how someone would want the old AI:
show it chasing you
I don’t want the old ai I just want the ai to be able to cut us off
It literally can
I dont want the whole old ai, I want the part where it chases us normally
It doesn’t
No…it really doesn’t…I’m sorry.
Ill make a video showing whats going on
uh huh
good lie i almost believed it
and if you meant pre release build
pre release doesnt exactly equal dev build:)
Why would I lie about that lol
Ill take a screenshot of the AI system
AI system in the dev version lol
this is a debug version which existed in pre release
this isnt anything new either youre trying to prove your point by attempting to tell me you have a "developer build"
my brain is melting are you actually this stupid
its literally the dev build theres nothing to it
It has no significance I dont know why your even talking about it
Its not that hard to get just download it from steam db
why I AM talking about it??
you are the one who started talking about it
You said that I lied so I just wanted to tell you I didnt lol
youre literally the one who bringed it up in the first place whta
ok yeah i know i had it i got rid of it because it was useless for me whatds your point again
I wasnt talking about it I just mentioned it
im going to continue arguing until this guy gets rid of this post
Yeah, theres no point in debating, the game is broken and needs to be fixed, can we just agree on that?
But what is wrong with to want the ai to be able to cut us off lmao
im not going to agree on somehting that is a visible lie
Updates making the AI worse i think
its making chase navigation worse, thats obvious, and patch 6 broke t he AI cutting you off
thats all
I have proof of that so it isnt a lie
youre saying that the ai got worse throughout the patches and to back up your argument you said "i have dev build" and then told me how to get it while i dont care about gettig it because i had it in the first place
how am i supposed to agree on any of this??
Thats not what I said lol
All im saying is that the AI has gotten worse at CHASING ONLY through the patches and should be fixed
I will make a video showing what I mean alright?
End of conversation
it
did not
Would It help if I just made a video on it to show you what Im talking about
see thats what im trying to prove to you
but you instead bring up random old pre release builds and then attempt to say how im the one thats talking about them
I dont want to argue I just want this game to be the best it can be
i am not going to watch your videos if all theyre doing is saying "guys this is bad ai guys look"
no one is talking about pre release but you lol
Im going to show what Im talking about
You said i was lying, so I sent a SS
that has nothing to do with the patches ruining ai???
Your the one who asked
show me where i asked
you said I was lying so I showed you I wasnt I mean
all i said is that you dont have a developer build and thats called a pre release build where did i say "give me evidence"
and once again because you seem to not understand until i repeat to you a few times
you made a post about patches making the ai worse and then you proceeded to flex a developer build and use it as one of your arguments
main point is
this post is a lie and youre still denying even when 10 people tell you that what you said is false.
You guys just don't understand that's why I want to make a video on it
i am not going to watch your video
Your just choosing to hate on me lol
Ik not just gonna rant about the ai
Yeah because people don't understand
As you can see
I don't care if you don't want to like the video or anything in just asking for you to hear me out
youre literally lying to the developers which may lead them to ruining their game more how does one not understand that??
just stop and delete it.
yeah i heard you and the words that came out of your mouth are all lies because i also have the game and i can also compare between launch day and patch 6
They said so themselves
Please chill out
youre attempting to prove something that youve been told by several other people is just not true
Yeah I'm not trying to be rude I just want the game to be better
What is even wrong by to make the ai be able to cut us off I don’t understand why you are so angry
Because they think I'm saying something I'm not
im telling the dude that the post is a lie and that he should delete it??
youre not going to make it better by telling them to bring back launch version ai
What he never said that lol
He said ai cutting you off
I'm just gonna make a video and send it to the devs
Is a problem
he said this 30 times
Cause it did loo
wdym "cutting you off"
he literally explicitly said "launch ai was better"
I showed Trinity live earlier right?
Yea
@frosty flicker This is what I am talking about when I say launch navigation is better than patch 6 https://youtube.com/clip/UgkxqFfE7mRCU2Au-cjJHlCSb-JonjhC641h
49 seconds · Clipped by AGW · Original video "Hello Neighbor 2 Updates have DESTROYED the AI (Full Video)" by AGW
ok
not clicking that btw
Well, I wouldn't say the patches are DESTROYING the AI, that's a bit too much isn't it? Anyways, the issue you have with the AI is it not cutting you off and losing you quickly, right? Well, the AI has gotten a feature where they start walking to you and their speed increases overtime, which should be fine but it seems to not fire correctly everytime. When the AI loses you even for a split second, a frame, and then starts chasing you again the speed up thing triggers again, which makes it look like a navigation issue, it is not, although it is overall quite a big issue. And as for the cutting off, I do agree that completely removing it was unnecessary, although I also think it is just a bug since the cutting off seems to cancel when the speed up thing triggers. I'm pretty sure this stuff will get fixed in the upcoming patches. I hope y'all understand now.
Thank you lol
biggest problem is this to be honest
even though not cutting the player off is still pretty bad
They didnt remove the cutting off they just disable it once the AI reaches a certain distance from you
which works great when it works lol
Also, the way it speeds up, it does that while its chasing you, even if it doesnt lose you at all, Im pretty sure thats a feature to show the AI is tired, but Im not sure, either way, its pretty cool
It literally can
In many of AGWs clips, he’s clearly outside which the AI doesn’t need to cut players off at.
Anyways kokosko answered everything
lol im on console and the ai sucks your so worng
Never said the console ai didn't suck lol
And I've remade this post so I'll probably delete this, no reason for me to keep it
The only good ai on console was Nielson and Gerda. After that the ai sucked at chasing you. You could literally just crouch and walk away. (Mr Peterson could sometimes catch you crouching in the boss fight since he's a lot faster)
I swear if you literally tell them, were gonna have to bring the devs to ban you :troII:
for me its gerda cause neilson cant keep up
as a console player the ai sucks stop with the lies
patch 6 has better ai
Yeah thats obvious but the navigation compaired to launch is just worse
Search “ the downfall of hello neighbor 2 “ on yt or search for alphas and then full game see the failure?
Yes. Consoles will get it at the end of the month.
also you mentioned a thing completely different from what they were talking about
i will sue you.. grr i will sue i will start suing all over the place!!
Literally Adam the old video producer himself said that he much preferred the FG overall, and he played unseen versions such as Alpha 2, yeah get this laughing stock outta here.
And that wasn’t even the topic
What the hell are you talking about??
Were talking about HN2 FG and its patches
were not talking about the downfall of hello neighbor were talking about the ai and how its not getting worse
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I remember when people used to hate the HN2 Alphas but apparently now that the FG released everyone changed their mind and theyre now "peak" and "amazing"...
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AGW man I love you but you're not proving a good point deleting your original message and completely hyping up everyone with the title only to go back and say that it's only slightly worse in open areas.
What AI lol
I'm gonna be honest, I still don't like the alphas and the FG, the only HN2 version I like is the Beta
No need for that
is this guys entire thing just straight up insulting people for not liking old stuff
Probably
This guy is definitely an idiot, a bigger one personally, not freeing people to have an opinion
Sorry not sorry
Yeah, I will not be sorry when I call the mods
@young shoal
Okay i am actually sorry
No no no, Bye bye, loser
be nice please
Thanks, man
Go outside and touch grass
Yep, totally am gonna have to tell them to give you a waning
And I get off or do you want to continue
I can continue to talk to the mods to get you in trouble, how's that offer?
I okay fine
let's stop here

Yea let’s stop this is over
Thanks for ending this
I sorry and I guess everyone likes different stuff anyways
ty all
The AI did not really freeze when I played the game on patch 6.
As a console player I play on Xbox and I had gotten deluxe edition and stayed up the night it released to play it. The AI wasn’t great but it was good enough like doing things properly or Gerda seeing the player through open spots on the shelf. Unfortunately when they updated the Xbox version fixing very few issues for some reason the AI got more broken and froze more often and got stuck easily as well as getting stuck in animations and is still that way till now until we get the next patches. As far as I know the AI does cut you off on consoles but it’s only happened in a few places.
in what universe was that a thing
in the universe where HN2 won Game of The Year
Agree. I personally like the alpha 1.5 ai, and for me, the FG AI is mid, Because it can cut you off, but the navMesh is broken
Could have been, somewhere parallel
Imagine game of the year with VR
me to im a console player and your spot on to a example of ai cutting you off happened when i was running around and Mr. Peterson went the other way instead of his normal chasing routine
I don't see the original message anymore, but the fact that the AI keeps weirdly changing with every patch, is true. when they added the under desk animations, they could catch me under the desk. now that they added the wardrobe thing, the under the desk thing either works or not (5/3 times, it doesn't work)
original post said nothing about the under table glitch but instead praised the launch ai and said "on launch the ai was perfect, barely froze, did its job correctly"
lol.
That's not what it said lol, it said navigation at launch was better than patch 6 in terms of chasing the player
yes yes i love lying
just so you know
you deleted the original post but the people who quoted your message didnt delete their messages:)
Lololol
your right that is wrong, Didnt say that lol
unless we are talking about xbox ai at the beginning of the game
which didnt freeze and I have proof of that lol
you literally said it yourself and now youre denying your own points
"on launch the ai was perfect, barely froze" is EXACTLY what you said
mr. apple was quoting YOU
If you want a video, just ask
..?????
But thats simply not what I said
and even that quote is partially true if we are talking about xbox ai at the beginning of the game
All your trying to do is argue, Im trying to make this game better
the whole reason the previous argument started is because you made feedback that said that the launch ai was perfect and didnt freeze
then you deleted your own message and said that youve never said anything like that while you clearly did.
No, I did not say anything like that, I just chose the wrong wording, which is why I remade the post
And if the post is deleted, why are you still trying to argue with me?
once again
mr apple was quoting EXACTLY WHAT YOU SAID
Like I have been saying multiple times, I w o r d e d it w r o n g
great so even if you didnt mean that then you still said it and you just only now said that you worded it wrong
I didnt know I would have to explain this in depth what I meant
i explain to someone what the post was about
you accuse me of lying while you knew you said that yourself and just never admitted to wording it wrong
am i really the one who started??
anyway
no longer responding because im generally busy today
and dont feel like talking with people who just cant simply admit to being completely wrong
Yes lol you are, you could of just asked me to reword the message or just ask what I meant instead of arguing that Im trying to do something Im clearly not
Thank you
lies im on console and first house in beginning sucks
stop acting like you know everything
I have video proof of it lol
Every copy of HN2 is personalized
And AGW definitely got the version where AI didnt freeze
Totally real...
stop lying when i played the game and replayed it and its dogwater no matter what
Do you want me to send you a video?
I will if you want
Alright give me a sec I will record it right now
it better be from console
Well you can do this bug on pc if you lock it to 30fps but if you want I can record it on console as well
pls do
Alright just give me a second to record it
why is people so angry in my opinion the new ai is definitely better but the launch ai tried to cut you off while the new one doesn’t so hopefully they fix it. Otherwise the new ai is much better. I’m on Xbox
Were not angry at you
Were angry at AGW who is saying that console AI (The launch version) was better than the patch 6 AI
once again im not saying that
Then what are you saying??
Ik that you are not angry with me but I think he means that the ai navigation and cutting was better not the whole ai
That launch edition simply could chase you better without losing you
Thats not true at all
Cool
Prove then
Trinity, You said youre playing on Xbox
Is this sentence true on Xbox?
I promise
Because i know damn well that its not true on Ps4
its on all consoles and pc launch version at 30 fps locked
And I think the ai on Xbox is worse I just want the ai cutting back in that pc version
Ive never in my life saw the Launch AI not freezing like this
It is a coincidence that it didnt freeze for you
Now your just denying proof
idk man... i used to think he was wrong but man its fast and not freesing
Well let me record proof then
hey what settings did you use
I was on console
İ will record the AI on Ps4
there are no graphic settings
i mean frame locking
make sure your at the beginning of the game and not freeroam, and also make sure you are at neilsens house
it only happens there
Its on console, which is locked to 30 if that answers your question
im not restarting my game but yeah man im almost convinced
Theres no free roam on console buddy
Yes there is on Xbox
oh yeah I forgot it crashes lol
there is
Then ig its just PS4
i just restart my console and it works
Free roam doesnt exist on the ps4 version
rip
ps4 is a bit less powerful than xbox so it might just be lagging below 30fps
No it doesn’t but it does on Xbox
while the ai cathes up with you on luanch ai it not as smart is that what your saying AGW
it doesnt freeze and it cuts you off
what i mean by smart is tables closets etc
It does for me ?
I swear to god
The not freezing AI is just for you AGW
Nobody else's launch AI was like this
you are on ps4 not xbox right
the bug doesnt happen on ps4
im sorry but xbox this does happen
Yes
But i also played HN2 on pc at launch
@final quarry can agree right?
And the AI was absolutely not like this
I do agree with that the ai was better at cutting you of. It was definitely not that smart though
thank you
Were not talking about the AI cutting off
Were talking about the freezing
yeah patch 6 is way smarter it just barely chases you lol
we are talking about both
or I am at least
Imagine if patch 6 ai gets the feature to cut us of and improved navigation then it will be amazing
50 seconds · Clipped by AGW · Original video "Hello Neighbor 2 Updates have DESTROYED the AI (Full Video)" by AGW
launch chasing vs patch 6 chasing
no commentary so dont worry
Isn’t this self promotion just wanna know lol ?
its showing something that they should fix so yes its self promo but Im not promoting it im just showing what is going on lol
If i said something like "Like my video its really good" then that would count as self promo
Ok
i mean I may be wrong but they dont ever remove the clips I make so Ill go with that until proven otherwise lol
Video too long didn't watch
that is not saying anything
How lol
How not tbh
And if the launch version was better in some ways, I will let them know
obviously patch 6 is overall better
Lol
Wouldn't know 🫠
exactly, I worded it wrong
Then, whats this?
Literally the same post worded differently so you guys would understand it better
Which still is the same meaning