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was much different
the full game might take place in early 2000s
like 2001-2004
ish
Oh yeah the Act 2 house isnโt real
Okay so Act 2 is basically
Distorted Memory/Nightmare
so thats just what he remembers
Of Nicky escaping the house
Which in reality was probably just
Nicky running away
like how hes re imaginging it
??
wb the act 3 house
what was the act 3 house
was that also not real?
is Nicky just an idiot who is halucinating all the time?
was act 1 the only real act
??
Yes.
Yes.
damn
Nicky needs a doctor
not the nieghbor
Nicky is the real one who needs help
what happened to nicky
will we ever know
cus act 3 ended with a dream
is Nicky lore done
Nicky moves into his house again
does shadow man have anything to do with HN2
The End
Not likely
Unless heโs Guest
maybe
Quintin will be an interesting character
is the game still a horror game?
or is it just a chasing game now?
in HN2
Alphas are
but you had to sneak around
yk what I mean
you didnt just parkour
the nieghbor did normal chores and not kick boxes
like an idiot
will hello nieghbor make the huge comeback again?
like it did in 2016-2017
Maybe
Depends on if the game is good
Lol
Do these posters from SN have any lore significance?
it translates to a hurricane warning so kinda
The test (in English, not Wayron Croobian,) reads "A Huricane is approaching the City! Leave your home as soon as possible!"
Ok
I just want to figure out why it would be here in SN
Imagine a hurricane or a mayak ending in Hn2
speaking of hurricanes I think I remember seeing a tweet or something that said #letsrebuildthetown
I remember seeing that somewhere
Does that prove anything that a raven brooks town is a thing?
maybe
Wow
Although, I don't believe it being an actual town, I do think it'll be cool if there's a real one
I think the hurricane caused raven brooks to get destroyed in the early alphas of hn2
Or maybe the hn1 act 3
yeah
hello engineer isn't canon right or is it cause I remember seeing a pink explosion I think it was like a time warp or something
I dont have hello engineer and a stadia but interesting
and also I have a theory
Yeah?
what if everything is jumbled up in Raven Brooks in weird text because of reset day maybe the residents forget english or something I think that might be why everything is wayron croobian or spelled weird in the game
Hm
@hallow aspen So: Mayak. The one building Quentin tries to go in Hello Guest
it is a meteo station built by Roger and Adelle Peterson
yes
Oh ye i remember that It looks like the house of the neighbor
Roger and Adelle moved in raven Brooks like 45 years before act 1. Its like the very beginning. Roger and Adelle are the parents of the Neighbor. Back then, the Neighbor was just a kid. Roger and Adelle moved to Raven Brooks due to frequent storms hitting the town. They wanted to study the phenomena. So they built this station
In the amusment park?
Near the park that was built 30 years later
Oh yes that makes sense But Wasnt there like children there
Oh i mean ye
If u are talking about the roller coaster sequence, its related more to the sequel
๐
Wait are you anime boi
Roger and Adelle were funded by the Tavish Society, this uber-rich organism that donates to random causes, especially scientific causes
No just art myself
That's not lore related.
Then is that place like A part of the deep lore
Wait Whoa
Anyway, Roger and Adelle eventually figured out what caused all the storms. A strange device equipped with sensors that can trigger storms and give luck to the people holding it
they found it in a giant nest (its actually a fakeout)
wait is that the thing I saw in game
The Tavishes for some reason wanted to arrest Roger and Adelle, because they found something they werent suppose to find. But before the police could arrest them, Roger and Adelle took the device apart and buried it in the woods
naice
Ofc, Roger and Adelle didnt rlly have a reason to be arrested, so they were released. But the Tavishes cutted their fundings. After that, things started going.... twisted
wait
Storms became more frequent and dangerous than ever and there was a rumor circulating around: the rumor of Forest Protectors
Oh so then what about the neighbor
still a kid
Yeah I see video forest protector
This really strange story for me
Forest protectors it kinda doesnt feel like hello neighbor now for some reason
Send me the vid NOW
As for the Forest Protectors, people say that they witnessed strange figures in the wood. Those figures lookes like a cross between a Crow and a Man
It's Arabic video not English sorry.
OHH so thats the crow guy but he feel diferent
still send
This guy the best when he say the story ๐ ๐ฅ๐ฅ๐ฅ
ik shhhh
Let him complete ๐
People started fearing Roger and Adelle. They thought they were mad scientists and are most likely the cause of the storms and the forest protectors. And one day, the Golden Apple candy factory (that belonged to the Tavishes) was burned to the ground
Oh wow fnaf vibes of burnt down stuff
People really thought that Roger and Adelle were the one who burned this place down despite the little amount of evidences. After a few events after that, Roger and Adelle died.
ok i gotta eat. Cya in a few minutes
Aw man
Good luck and thank you cya
Wait then is the neighbor like alone now
he got to grow up tho
oh naice
and he could live his own life
Wait then what about the children simming and the basement
How do you know I mean the simming posters And we just saw like basement thing
Yeah but maybe souls
Oh like the basement i think its like not really souls i think there is some person he loved or something because thats probebly like why he was depressed after closing door
@wicked heath ?
PoV: I read the books and can explain the Simming kids
pls
do it
but shh
The Simming kids are the Neighbor's Son and Daughter
but the daughter died its probs the son
im back
WB
yes!
We waiting you ๐ฅฒ
Only the Son is still Alive, as he accidently pushed The Daughter off the roof
So yes
@ripe berryshh listen
so... do i keep talking about hn2 or...
Yeah
yes pls
k so where was i
here
.
The Son and Daughter's names are (Son) Aaron and (Daughter) Mya
okay so:
Now why did the Tavishes tried to arrest Roger and Adelle and cutted their fundings
bc the Tavishes and a few other people hold a sinister secret
Which is being "Forest Protectors" which do rituals to give them good luck but the rest of the town bad luck
oh cool
You see, they are the ones who first found the device that causes all the storms. In order to make use of it, a cult of people (including the Tavishes) has to make a ritual with the device by dressing themselves as crows
I think it is the thing i saw in hn2
Yeah in cartoon too
Nono like a device?
the purpose of the rituals are to make the cult (also known as the Ravens) so lucky that they get whatever they want: money and power.
OHHH snap
This is the buried thing that Mr. Peterson found I think
these rituals are done in the woods. But how to make rituals in the woods in a town full of people while staying incognito?
But then what is crow guy doing?
Well thats why one of em invented the legend of Forest Protector. To keep the town people away from the forest
that is something a bit deeper
Guest is some kind of supernatrual entity
Oh wow I need to look at hello neighbor more then fnaf
woah woah woah we are going too fast now
Sorry about that
No like i saw a device in hello guest
Anyways back to what you were saying
I couldnt pick it up
but it looked wierd probs not the storm thing
I see in cartoon Something fell out of Mr. Peterson when he was looking for Nicky
Now whatever happened to the cult that we can now call the Ravens? It has been around for a very long time. 30 years actually. And this is when we get more into Mr. Peterson himself
Is it this?
Yee
thats a whole dam machine
Whao
The lore is deep now
I could not take it?
It's not a luck device, you hook it up to a generator, turn on the generator then throw two items in there to maybe get a new item
am not sure if its that thing noo
You see, when Mr. Peterson was a kid, he befriended that other kid named Ike Gershowitz
Wait the neighbor had friends๐๐
Just don't put two batteries in there, that breaks it
yes. Kind of surprising, am i right?
Ik๐
just imagining me making friends make my skin begin to crawl
Two of them, you'll hear about the other one in a bit,
No i could not pick it so its not that i think of
k maybe we can put the mixer machine aside
Is that a RE reference
dats a lyric
man the lore is now somethin else
oh ok
Yeah, and it's because of the books
No cap
Your like hello neighbor matpat no cap
No cap
Dark lore for me I freaked out a bit and can't wait to see the sequel 
We aren't even half way done yet
Anyway, Roger and Adelle eventually knew about the Ravens and the devices. Obviously, their knowledge was shared with their son Theodore (Mr. Peterson). Theodore shared all those secrets with Ike
mhm the beta will open more to it mostly the guest or neighbor
I see now with freeze ๐
SOrry i keep saying Mr peterson, but back then he is a kid
Oh what if thats whats inside the basement am jk
I forgot Mr. Peterson's friend ...hmmm What is his name 
around 25 years later, Mr. Peterson became a famous theme park designer. He designed the most innovative rides in the whole world. He also got a family
^
Oh
So like hello enginner
Yeah It was amazing
Thats way after that. We are still behind Hello Neighbor Hide and Seek
Yes that game WAS packed with lore
Yes, it clarifies a few things from the game
Mr. Peterson was known to design the most innovative parks in the world. But one day, an accident happened happened in his latest park in germany as a man died in the water-ride
What wow
So, to flee the investigators who want to arrest him, he went back to Raven Brooks
Wait I expect they 4 not 1
It was 4 teens, not a man
it WAS a man in book 4
Oh yeah right
in book 1, its 4-5 teens
oh wow
anyway big accident happens, he and his family flee to Raven Brooks
Oh
NO
SHHH
Oh no TinyCrow
also NO
This means that the first person to die was one man because of one of Mr. Peterson's games, right?
give them a moment okay? They are new
SHH
TC, quiet, Enzo's explaining the HN Lore
one of his rides
absolutely incorrect
TinyCrow calm down i got this
Oh
Okay so. Where was I
pls leave me alo- oh...
no
sorry i got a lot of haters recently
Oh ye no But then I have a feeling like the hello enginner places in lore
why
๐
I really really enjoyed your HN2 announcement trailer remake
this is against the server rules to promote...
hey guys, what if the nieghbor is just tryna take over the milk industry
and wants to have all the milk
oh yes sry
Please TC, stop talking for 2 seconds while Enzo is explaining the HN Lore
also look: HN2 takes place around the time of HN1 Acts 1/2
Ik
so, at that time, neighbor's son was a kid
oh god things are going all over the place
he can neither be guest, nor Quentin
ye
This game have a long story but it's okay
nice
Noice
๐ค
ye so like friend us for lore
its not clean
@coral snow Forget about it my friend ๐
Talk about "lore"
ok
ok so
So
so. Where was I.
um
Complete dude
ight lets continue
ah yes right. So Mr. Peterson and his family flee to raven brooks
Due to his wife unable to find a job as a theater dancer in town, Mr. Peterson has no choice, but to find a job to design another amusement park
yknow, so Mr. Peterson can feed his family
bro thats like wow just dont do that
Yeah true
No like dont say it like that
whats wrong
Flashbacks
:/
HN heed and seek ?
what
Are you play it @hallow aspen ?
yes but shh
Explain more, we don't understand what you mean
wait coming in amin
SO:
wait
Mr. Peterson moves to the house of his dead parents and applies for a job at the Golden Apple Corporation
wow the sad music ish that played when i was young๐
Mr. Peterson has a few months to build the multimillion dollar park
Oh GOD
But while he is designing the park, his family is constantly getting harassed by the town people
aw man
And nicky ?
Because, they are from Roger and Adelle's family, and the town people think they were mad scientists
nicky is number 1: Much later after that
number 2: not that much related to hn2's lore
Not in town yet
Ay
wait do u guys want me to put the lore of the entire franchise or just hn2
Mean nicky stay in raven brooks
We started with Roger and Adelle
same he didnt come to the raven brok thing
so..?
Cus if we are just talking about hello neighbor 2, i can skip a lot of unimportant stuff
chat just died
Can you make the shortcut?
The chat got killed by the lore
?
man
It means to shorten the story
YEs its stornk
(im just gonna assume u guys want the whole story so here)
Mr. Peterson's family is constantly harrassed by people due to them being related to Roger and Adelle Peterson
and guess what? Recently after the Peterson family moved to Raven Brooks, storms are BACK! More dangerous than ever!! And people start witnessing forest protectors all over again!
whao that was kindo expected
There are only 4 kids who are friends with Mr. Peterson's children
those are Enzo and Maritza Esposito, Trinity Bales and 7 year old Lucy Yi
who reacted with this
@loud tartan ?
forget it
what, why did you ping me
no useless ping
stop call me like this
Ok
So kids in baseMeant?
And what do you mean like more forest prot sightings?
sorry i was out for a second
ye
no we are going way too quickly here
ok ok ik
lul
oh no
Is it possible for aaron to be the crow?
anyway, Mr. Peterson's children, Aaron and Mya, befriended these 4
what the heck happened lmao
Its lore chat
pls continue
but, I wansnt tryna troll
||Complaining about Aaron is the guest||
it was just a theory that is stupid, but you never know
oh yes forgot
not really possible due to him still being a kid
Freeze has been trying to tell the story for a while and you interrupted him
Exatly I should get a grammer book
ik, but when was aaron born
so where were me
I wonder why they changed Lucy Yi's design in secret neighbor
PLs stop
cus, isnt this after the nieghbor becomes a psychopath
like a while after that
after aaron's sister dies
too
talk on hello neighbor chat this is lore chat pls SHh
I am talking lore tho
Freeze pls continue if you want
I was talking to others
oh ok
Just stop talking 
PLs shh
okay short explanation, Aaron cannot be the guest because heโs still a child, now plz just let freeze continue the story
Lore Story, no interruptions
join thread
ok
Aaron is 13 years when HN2 begins
its impossible for him to be the guest
Yeah
and also the fact Aaron's supposed to be in the Museum Attic while the Guest is running around at night
what if like
after we break into the attic, when we get close to the bed, neighbor catches us
and he locks Aaron inside the glowing room seen in deep dive
Except the glowing room doesn't even exist lmao
Okay but what if
its prob hidden behind the closet
cuz the room is still there
the room to the left of the kitchen
cough cough
this is the room at the left of the kitchen
and, the glowing door is also at the left of the kitchen
meaning, its this room
There's yknow
Legit not even room for a door there
There is no door
That room isn't here
Different place bro
no its not
You can see from the garage door that the door is taller than the cabinet
So it'd be VISIBLE
he could easily saw out a door
so
he could remove the closet and cut out a door, and put Aaron in the room
Maybe the room was there, they just made the spot to access it in a different area of the house. We still havenโt seen like half the museum.
But why would he move him to somewhere less secure than the attic
In the same building
cuz Quentin breached the attic
did you forget this so soon?
And? He couldn't breach the room that apparently has 2 unblocked windows?
Or just remove the boards?
what
he could block it after he locked Aaron in it
that is the glowing room
there is no doubt in it
Wouldn't it make more sense for Ted to just flee?
Rather than just to move Aaron to a more exposed room in the house
if he wanted to flee, he already would've fleed
he clearly doesnt want to or cant flee
Or,
Maybe the Deep Dive shouldn't be taken as "funky glowing room is da goal"
Since the door legit isn't there anymore but the room is
Meaning the room likely has another entrance
For it to even exist.
if you look around and examine everything even more, would've see that there is no other way to the room
on neither of the floors
in floor one, its at the left of the kitchen, on floor two, its at the left of the bathroom
and, there is legit no door to access the room
Or there could be a door on the outside of the room, yknow on the porch
mhmm
Also slightly off-topic but
I think this Museum model as a whole is kinda different?
no
oh you mean like that
ye, the look and feel has indeed changed from deep dive to beta
but the exterior model hasnt changed
the only change is that it has a different chimney, and has a large fallen banner spelling sumeum
lemme quiqcly check that
lets analyze this and see if we can spot a door on the side of the porch
wait, too blurry
Wait
What do you mean next to the kitchen?
The โkitchenโ room with the Neighbor using the binoculars is on the second floor
no
But the glowing room would be on the first floor
Okay yeah it is on the first floor, checked for myself
ok fine
delete this then
Why would I delete it if I already just confirmed what you said about the kitchen
??
The kitchen room has the window that the neighbor looked out of in the first beta trailer.
Extremely fun fact
Also a friend noted that the โkitchenโ looks more like a museum exhibit for the bakery
Since it has the pretzel fridge, a cash register, tables and chairs
That would be weird to be in a museum. Itโs just a gift shop sort of thing where people get food idk what to call it.
I mean the museum apparently did just close at least somewhat recently
Since paintings of the Mayor
And yknow the pretzel fridge only seen in the bakery
But could just be model reuse
Probably, itโs not like the baker made the fridge lol.
Or couldโve been like a partnership thing
Let Gerda sell her goods in the museum gift shop idk lol
no, he was actually looking out of the glowing room
you can see the curtains he shut here
I analysed the entire thing when I made a half an hour video, โtis in the kitchen room .
no
yes
what would youdo if I prove
What would u do if I prove
Well brb
ok, then lemme show my side of evidence until you get back
U find your proof while I
as you can see the walls are equal here
but the walls in the glowing room are protruding further out
@shrewd dove THE MOST strongest proof is this
Yea, and thatโs the kitchen lol
you can see the tip of the freezer in the room, next to protruding glowing room
the glowing room is protruding out
while the walls of the kitchen are equal
@shrewd dove just look
the room with the freezer(kitchen) is more inside
while the glowing room is protruding out
but as you can see here, the walls of the kitchen are equal
no wall is protruding out
Quentin enters by walking up the sign, which is to the side of the museum. The main 2 doors he walks through is facing the same as the sign, meaning to the right of the 2 doors is the front. The windows are farther to the right of the front of the house. Also the distance between the 2 windows of the kitchen and the front are the same. The 5 minute gameplay also shows him looking outside, which is what he does in the trailer. The glowing room does face the same way, but it doesnโt really go anywhere. If those 2 windows werenโt the 2 in the front, there is no where else for them to be.
there are 4 windows in the front in the front
dont you see it
two in the kitchen
two in the glowing room
looking from this, kitchen ahs only two windows
meaning, the other two windows on the protruding room does not belong to the kitchen
so, its impossible for the room where Ted shut the curtains, to be the kitchen
the guy left
Im leaving too
g'night
The distances donโt match up and the lighting matches the kitchen, but idc that much so uh bye also 
Im back
k
I was banned
don't confuse kick and ban
and rightly so
It said it was for 5 weeks
wtf
imbir talking with imbir??
You was kicked, don't spam again and you're fine
*were
two imbirs confirmed?
Nicky is your mom
confirmed
Eh wut
well then
Pre alpha reference
Super cool stuff
Also enzo Is crow man trying to rebuild the storm thing
?/
Does anyone know what the burning house in the alphas was about? Because it was mentioned in the books by Nicky.
nothing
the house turning into an field of grass wasnt in the books either
What? No
Omg enzo is the guest all along๐ฑ ๐ฑ ๐ฑ
Trinity is guest smh
confirmed
Have u ever considered he might not be the guest 
i just realised
i am right about the guest being supernatural
so yknow how reset day takes place YEARS after hn1
and how the guest still roams around
well when we see the description of the guest in reset day
its shown and SAID to have feathers
no human can grow feathers
Confirmed where
the graphic novel
And guest in books is much different
reset days depiction
the graphic novel literally has him PHASE in water
no human can do that
or unless theres ANOTHER MCGUFFIN that lets people APPEAR in water
reset day
yeah to screw up weather and stuff
and for what reason
to have bad storms and be cool???
Wasnt guest in reset day looked like an actual humanoid crow?
to rid of Wayron Croobs?
yeah
To flood town
but WHY
to give the user "good luck" which essentially just makes it so nothing bad happens to you
Evil pat
im aware of the luck stuff
but at the same time you can also reverse someones luck and make it bad
but even then
the luck goes down
the losers who were forest protectors ran out of luck
or smthn
because they couldnt perform their rituals anymore
storms cause the devices to work
and the devices act as a catalyst to make the storms worse after they begin
Yes
so i can say that Hello Neighbors lore is centered around Cults and Weather
And a rogue goose
yeah
and time travel 
And gems
the townspeople of Raven Brooks staring at their TV after hearing their EAS system talk about a Flash Flood (its probably those forest protectors again)
In gn2, the forest protectors have no relevence
losers
So basically old town is the mirror dimension
thedore peterson
Uh oh
Hell yeah! Causing natural disasters is cool!
What old Town
someone make a theory
It's mentioned in the AS Pilot
Neighbor is actually Nicky Roth, who is actually Quentin, who is really Jay Roth.
who is really Andrew
Who is really Mart Wilson
but Mart and Mr Wilson are separate entities
but Jay is Mart
and Enzo is mr WILSON
which means they are man in the hat
Man in the Hat is actually Joe Swanson
Where were even we
When the neighbor when he when it when the
not true
yeah
Couldnโt be me ๐
Aaron?
And forgot to mention they never read the books
They mainly just have watched the AS pilot
look
real aaron
Yeah I see
I was never here ๐
"OoOoOoh!! Secret Neighbor Kids wowwwww"
true lol
true
you mind
Can you add HN2 to the list?
?
Anyone reading the books?
yes
10
the second one is interesting, but... it doesnt have that much informations about the lore.
7 novels
2 comics
And... what was the last?
oh ok
I forgot the last
the guidebook
Ah
enzo do you speedrun hn?
no
green goblin?
maybe
dude doesnt look real, but still interacts with peterson
and makes him do things he doesnt necessarly want to do anymore
eh.
the neighbor probably made the costume
and when he goes to the breaker, its like the costume, the evilness of the neighbor, fights back or smth
ye but if heโs like, some sort of mysterious entity youโd expect it to look cooler instead of a homemade Halloween costume
like "you have gone too far to stop here"
phasing through the wall 
I stand to the point he is not real here
the reason why i made a stupid comparison between the Green Goblin and the Guest is because I have a feeling, its two characters (one being the neighbor's evil consciousness), same body, the Neighbor's evil consciousness represented by the costume, like the Goblin being represented by Norman's mask. But thats just a theory. a STUPID theory. Thanks for watching
true the guest and the green goblin are both an alternate personality
you are correct sir
oh
alright
well, what do you already know about the hello neighbor lore?
Its important to know at the very least the basics, before making any theories, otherwise, those may not make any sense
(i mean, its technically the same house)
Oh oh... watch out
Honestly, when i think about this, it does look pretty awesome. Credits to the drawer
moments before disaster
im not gonna spoil any more
switch
Steam
graphics aren't great but hey at least I have somewhere to play it on
and plus you can play wherever you go
cant wait to play the red gramophone and throw my switch through my irl neighbors window
lol
I hope they add Hello Guest on the switch and also the ps they can make it free while waiting for hn2
o geez.....
I like the ending route where you tie the rope onto the door
oh yeah that one
hey its almost its birthday
early happy birthday freeze
my birthday is on May
oh cool welcome to the neighborhood I guess lol
ahh....
I joined the discord on another account but I never talked I just checked for hn news
Art
indeed
I think when HN2 Beta releases, to stop anyone from saying โWell itโs not canon since itโs a beta and means nothing!!11!1!1โ we should just treat it as temporary canon until full release. I donโt think the devs will put in random stuff to mislead us and this is obviously the final raven brooks map they will make. If we treat it as canon, then we can peice together lore better and when full release comes, weโll be either proven right or wrong.
It was annoying to discuss hn2 alpha lore when every 2 minutes someone would bring up how itโs not canon as an excuse. This is beta anyways, so itโs different.
Nah I think they might still make one more map
a beta 2?
Because this current map doesn't have all the buildings, and there's really no room on said current map for more buildings
That would be pointless
It would be too close to the full version
oh yeah true
my guess for hn2 releasing is maybe somewhere in early 2023 or maybe in a couple of months somewhere around 2022
I think around mid to late 2022
I donโt mean like an actual map. I mean like make another build, I worded it wrong sorry.
It looks like the final build of HN2, since itโs a pre-order thing. You wouldnโt have to buy it if the final game was like a total new game and town.
The final game will likely just be a very updated and extended version of the beta.
Hopefully there's new puzzles in the buildings that were already in the beta
Iโm sure the puzzles will be somewhat light compared to the first game. Since they are actually doing what they should of last time and made it a stealth horror game.
I wonder how many characters there will be there'll probably be a lot but not like a lot like maybe 15 or something
Probably closer to 10
I think it would be cool if we can break into everybody's house but I think we're breaking into the only important characters
Thereโs already like 11
plus it would take a long time to model new models for each house
Quentin, Peterson, Neilson, Leslie, Guest, Mayor, Gerda, Otto, Farmer, Imbir, and Skipper.
But for characters with houses you break into
I am sure there will be more after that since they said they havenโt shown all of them.
yup
Why does it even matter anyways
We only have Ted, Guest (maybe), Mayor, Gerda, Otto, Farmer, Fisherman (maybe)
There is no announced fisherman.
Also Neilson and Leslie count as the peterson house.
without the talking imbir here are the characters that were shown in the dev log the number of characters could not be final who knows
I am pretty sure they were just randomly placing arrows since the CMs probably didnโt know everything related to the characters.
And there is an arrow just facing the city, and one right behind Quentinโs office.
I wonder if we'll get to visit the city in the background or will it just be for decoration
the tall buildings like the one they put for the first game
also I think I remember in one of the hn books there was a big square
I think that was when nicky and his friends went to nigiri nights
Squares are 2d shapes, do you mean like a town square lol
yeah I mean town square my bad
I think it was mentioned in waking nightmare or missing pieces
They could add one, but I think maybe having like a library would be a better idea for 2 purposes. 1. Could have a librarian to add to the roster. 2. Could have a lot of town lore and help Quentin on his ventures.
oh yeah
There is a library where Peterson goes all the time in the AS.
No
I think there was a librarian mentioned in the neighbor's notebook
He goes to the county records
Oh okay, well maybe that would be even better instead.
So itโs focused on the town.
Well, time to add that to the map of RB I'm drawing
Iโm sure there could be a book when you tilt it, you get a secret room. It is needed, no compromises. 
and also there was a graveyard mentioned in nog simming so we'll most likely see one
Still, would be cool. I think stuff like this is up to them and if they like it, whether to put it before or after release.
yeah
I mean maybe we might see gray manor return lots of surprises we'll be expecting in hn2
There are two large open fields that have nothing in them on the beta map
Maybe they'll fill them in with something
Alexus was joking about it still being around, idk how serious he was though. Being a dev I wouldnโt joke with that kind of stuff, but itโs Alexus so who knows lol.
interesting
Combine gray manor with the mill
I wanna see another dream sequence in hn2
Not a nightmare door with puzzles but a dream sequence where you get caught multiple times and a scene triggers
imo the devlog map was probably a very early iteration of the fg map
as beta is definitely not final
as stated in some post idk what its a small sampling of the map
or something along those lines
go ask retro
they should still add the square. along with the libary. Quentin could buy things from there.
EGS seems to work in iterations
we went from the test map, to AI trailer, to devlog/E3, to the current map
they were making the multiple times to see what will work and not work for the game
Beta map is likely the base/going to be used as the final map ingame
theyve been making it for at least 7 months, and maybe even longer
I'd say we are gonna be shown friendly court only, in the beta.
asides from that street that Quentin lives on.
yeah, but there seems to be a sizeable amount of people that think that this stuff wont even be part of the final game
probably not
but maybe they forgot that HN beta three was literally just the entirety of act 3 
because everything is too cramed
I don't think the mayor's office would be close to Friendly court.
maybe it'd be on a richer street.
I think we are gonna get a few sections to explore.
โRaven Brooks is not a particularly big town,โ Kravchenko says. โBut itโs pretty dense with all of the other bright characters that are colorful and interesting...."
Raven Brooks isnt going to be humongous, they want to make a smaller map with loads of content packed into the space
Friendly court and streets near it.
instead of being walking simulator
I hope they do alot of optimizing
such as everything that Quentin can't see behind him (Asides from NPCs) disappear
also GTG
adios
yeha
i mean im basing it off what others think but u get the point
since they said hn2 will have no limitation on where you can go I wonder if there's an invisible barrier at some point
cause I mean the town isn't going to be that large
well, one of the articles mentioned fisherman
your making one?
Goose will use his fire extinguisher to chase you across the ocean
GUYS
What?
A GAME theory
YES
So detective
How does he get all off these Polaroid photos out of nowhere?
I have an answer
Detective is a young Joseph Joestar
He has hermit purple, and he uses the camera to show him where to go with the help of its abilities
he will chase you to france
It makes so much sense
This is the ultimate lore that MatPat could've never predicted
link
@fiery otter itโs canon now
Turns out that detective is a Japanese worker at a idk what is it
..
oh okay
So... Diane Peterson dies in car crash
and Aaron think his bad luck caused this to happen
Dude has gotten mad at some point and took his anger on his little sister. The reason is... a bit confusing to me
My theories:
A. Mya didn't understand the pressure Aaron was going through and he got mad because of the ignorance of his sister.
B. They sleep in the same bedroom, and Aaron needed to take his anger on someone.
I would stick with theory A. Anyone who understood the books more than me, pls correct me
Anyway, Aaron takes on his sister by stealing her doll and hide it on the edge of the roof
Mya eventually got to the roof and retrieved her doll, but Aaron got mad again and pushed her, but when Aaron realizes they are both standing at the edge of a roof, it is too late......
They dont have same bedroom in books, right?
oh yes right
They literally dont in every hn timelines other than the main one
ikr, Like i cant imagine Nicky's trilogy due to his room being faced sideway
so i have to imagine him in his parents room
yes
but there are about the same amount of doors in this house than any regular house
pov: Aaron
Oh sorry, I interrupted you, lol
it is totally fine
as long as its not 3 ppl
at this point, we cant keep up
so Mr. Peterson buried her daughter in his backyard
you see, he couldnt let anyone know about her death, cus the police may arrest him for lack of responsibilities over his children
And he would lose custody on his son
The only thing Mr. Peterson cares about is his family. And he had one person left. The very last person that keeps him whole
And NO WAY would he let death take Aaron away from him. So he did the very thing he "thought" he had to do: lock Aaron in the basement, with or against Aarons will, so he would be safe
As a way to explain the disappearance of his children, Mr. Peterson reports both of his children as Missing/Runaways
yes
And everyone just goes along with it, cus nobody really care about the Peterson children..... except Nicky and Maritza...
...
u forgot already...

Ive been saying her and 3 other folks were Aarons and Myas friends before they decided to be a-holes and avoided them
(well actually, most of em. Lucy is dead anyway)
anyway, Maritza still keeps thinking about Mya and how she doesnt believe they have "ran away".
Meanwhile, Nicky doesnt believe the same and he has been... watching Mr. Peterson for a couple of months. Taking notes of everything he does for any signs of Aaron and Mya
I would continue it (bc Enzo is offline), but I won't
But I know where you're at, and there was a teeny tiny detail Enzo skipped over to save time
Which is that at First, Ted claimed that Aaron and Mya were in Minnesota
But then Nicky got into contact Ted's sister, who lives in Minnesota, who then ends up proving this false, causing Ted to have to put up the Missing Posters
Goodbye
totally not funny
after Nicky exposes
Books: I exist you know.
He doesnโt report them as runaways, Nicky gets the policeโs attention so Mr. Peterson says they were living with a far away relative. That was proven false obviously. 
Number 1: they are eventually reported runaways afterward, so it doesnt matter
Number 2: Detail that just makes the story longer for no reasons
hi
10 days until, LORE ANSWERS
i doubt hn2 beta will have any lore
.-.
it will have lore hints
but not lore answers
anyone that thinks there will be lore answers are crazy
oof
I already have the lore, detective is revealed to be young Joseph Joestar, from the hit anime JoJoโs Bizzare Adventure, this was told to me by my friend, who was told by his cousin, who was told by his friend, who was told by his older brother
is it just me or were there so many more lore messages
that was the most active lore chats ever been
i just imagine nickys room is like normal
except the window in his parents room is in his room on his wall next to the one in the corner
wait what...
bread lore
window lore
AHH
Augggghhh
AUGH
I have a question: when u imagine. Nicky walk home in the books, which side of the road is he coming from?
probably the direction he is coming from when he chases his ball
I don't think the factory we see in HN1 is the golden apple factory
def not
I'm sorry, but HG intro makes me think otherwise
In the HGA1 intro, Quentin/Beatrix get to the GAAP via a path by the Gas Station
This path also exists in the HN1 map
The path goes right by the factory (if you follow it correctly) before getting cut off by the map boundries
the factory looks like it's still operating though
They didn't have the lore vision complete when they released the game
that's true
also
there is a chance that the gas station isn't the same one in HN1
i like how its literally based on the hn1 thing
You can literally see (if you head out of bounds) the Welcome Sign (even tho it is untextured) in the same area as the Gas Station (In both HG and HN1)
I dunno
maybe it is
maybe it isn't
who knows
Why are you even questioning this
It is pretty obvious they are the same Gas Station
The only other Gas Station (we know of) is out of bounds in Act 1 behind where the player starts from
But that obviously isn't actually meant to be seen as a Gas Station
I'm not really
I just said that because I'm not in a very good mood
I wonder if we'll see the golden apple factory in hn2
if we do, its probably empty af
nice