#lore-discussion

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coral snow
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since his act 2 house

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was much different

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the full game might take place in early 2000s

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like 2001-2004

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ish

torpid sinew
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Oh yeah the Act 2 house isnโ€™t real

coral snow
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then?

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was it also a dream?

torpid sinew
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Okay so Act 2 is basically

coral snow
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what was act 2

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then?

torpid sinew
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Distorted Memory/Nightmare

coral snow
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so thats just what he remembers

torpid sinew
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Of Nicky escaping the house

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Which in reality was probably just

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Nicky running away

coral snow
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like how hes re imaginging it

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??

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wb the act 3 house

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what was the act 3 house

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was that also not real?

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is Nicky just an idiot who is halucinating all the time?

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was act 1 the only real act

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??

torpid sinew
torpid sinew
coral snow
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damn

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Nicky needs a doctor

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not the nieghbor

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Nicky is the real one who needs help

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what happened to nicky

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will we ever know

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cus act 3 ended with a dream

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is Nicky lore done

torpid sinew
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Nicky moves into his house again

coral snow
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does shadow man have anything to do with HN2

torpid sinew
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The End

torpid sinew
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Unless heโ€™s Guest

coral snow
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maybe

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Quintin will be an interesting character

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is the game still a horror game?

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or is it just a chasing game now?

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in HN2

torpid sinew
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The game was never really a horror game

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From the start

coral snow
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true

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only the alphas were

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alpha 1

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and pre alpha

torpid sinew
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Alphas are

coral snow
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they were scary

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and were fun

torpid sinew
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Not really horror games either

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I mean the only scary thing was like

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Music

coral snow
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but you had to sneak around

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yk what I mean

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you didnt just parkour

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the nieghbor did normal chores and not kick boxes

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like an idiot

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will hello nieghbor make the huge comeback again?

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like it did in 2016-2017

torpid sinew
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Maybe

coral snow
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cus people like kindly keyin, fgteev made the game explode

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back then

torpid sinew
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Depends on if the game is good

brittle trail
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Lol

ripe berry
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Do these posters from SN have any lore significance?

ancient apex
ripe berry
ripe berry
pale urchin
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Imagine a hurricane or a mayak ending in Hn2

stiff spire
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I remember seeing that somewhere

pale urchin
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Does that prove anything that a raven brooks town is a thing?

stiff spire
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maybe

pale urchin
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Wow

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Although, I don't believe it being an actual town, I do think it'll be cool if there's a real one

stiff spire
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I think the hurricane caused raven brooks to get destroyed in the early alphas of hn2

pale urchin
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Or maybe the hn1 act 3

stiff spire
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yeah

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hello engineer isn't canon right or is it cause I remember seeing a pink explosion I think it was like a time warp or something

pale urchin
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I dont have hello engineer and a stadia but interesting

stiff spire
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and also I have a theory

pale urchin
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Yeah?

stiff spire
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what if everything is jumbled up in Raven Brooks in weird text because of reset day maybe the residents forget english or something I think that might be why everything is wayron croobian or spelled weird in the game

pale urchin
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Hm

wicked heath
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@hallow aspen So: Mayak. The one building Quentin tries to go in Hello Guest

hallow aspen
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Yay

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Wait that mountain amusment part right?

wicked heath
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it is a meteo station built by Roger and Adelle Peterson

wicked heath
hallow aspen
wicked heath
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Roger and Adelle moved in raven Brooks like 45 years before act 1. Its like the very beginning. Roger and Adelle are the parents of the Neighbor. Back then, the Neighbor was just a kid. Roger and Adelle moved to Raven Brooks due to frequent storms hitting the town. They wanted to study the phenomena. So they built this station

wicked heath
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Near the park that was built 30 years later

hallow aspen
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Oh yes that makes sense But Wasnt there like children there

wicked heath
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?

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No not really

hallow aspen
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Oh i mean ye

wicked heath
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If u are talking about the roller coaster sequence, its related more to the sequel

sterile forum
hallow aspen
wicked heath
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Roger and Adelle were funded by the Tavish Society, this uber-rich organism that donates to random causes, especially scientific causes

sterile forum
loud tartan
hallow aspen
wicked heath
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pretty much

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its more important than the basement itself

hallow aspen
wicked heath
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Anyway, Roger and Adelle eventually figured out what caused all the storms. A strange device equipped with sensors that can trigger storms and give luck to the people holding it

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they found it in a giant nest (its actually a fakeout)

hallow aspen
wicked heath
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?

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what is

hallow aspen
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Continue

wicked heath
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The Tavishes for some reason wanted to arrest Roger and Adelle, because they found something they werent suppose to find. But before the police could arrest them, Roger and Adelle took the device apart and buried it in the woods

hallow aspen
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naice

wicked heath
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Ofc, Roger and Adelle didnt rlly have a reason to be arrested, so they were released. But the Tavishes cutted their fundings. After that, things started going.... twisted

hallow aspen
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wait

wicked heath
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Storms became more frequent and dangerous than ever and there was a rumor circulating around: the rumor of Forest Protectors

hallow aspen
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Oh so then what about the neighbor

wicked heath
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still a kid

sterile forum
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Yeah I see video forest protector
This really strange story for me

hallow aspen
hallow aspen
wicked heath
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As for the Forest Protectors, people say that they witnessed strange figures in the wood. Those figures lookes like a cross between a Crow and a Man

sterile forum
hallow aspen
hallow aspen
sterile forum
sterile forum
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Let him complete ๐Ÿ’€

wicked heath
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People started fearing Roger and Adelle. They thought they were mad scientists and are most likely the cause of the storms and the forest protectors. And one day, the Golden Apple candy factory (that belonged to the Tavishes) was burned to the ground

hallow aspen
wicked heath
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People really thought that Roger and Adelle were the one who burned this place down despite the little amount of evidences. After a few events after that, Roger and Adelle died.

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ok i gotta eat. Cya in a few minutes

hallow aspen
sterile forum
hallow aspen
wicked heath
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he got to grow up tho

hallow aspen
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oh naice

wicked heath
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and he could live his own life

hallow aspen
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Wait then what about the children simming and the basement

sterile forum
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Maybe they're not real

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Maybe 1 real

hallow aspen
sterile forum
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Yeah but maybe souls

hallow aspen
# sterile forum Yeah but maybe souls

Oh like the basement i think its like not really souls i think there is some person he loved or something because thats probebly like why he was depressed after closing door

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@wicked heath ?

ripe berry
hallow aspen
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do it

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but shh

ripe berry
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The Simming kids are the Neighbor's Son and Daughter

hallow aspen
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but the daughter died its probs the son

wicked heath
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im back

sterile forum
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WB

hallow aspen
sterile forum
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We waiting you ๐Ÿฅฒ

ripe berry
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So yes

hallow aspen
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@ripe berryshh listen

wicked heath
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so... do i keep talking about hn2 or...

sterile forum
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Yeah

hallow aspen
wicked heath
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k so where was i

ripe berry
wicked heath
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okay so:

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Now why did the Tavishes tried to arrest Roger and Adelle and cutted their fundings

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bc the Tavishes and a few other people hold a sinister secret

ripe berry
wicked heath
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You see, they are the ones who first found the device that causes all the storms. In order to make use of it, a cult of people (including the Tavishes) has to make a ritual with the device by dressing themselves as crows

hallow aspen
sterile forum
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Yeah in cartoon too

hallow aspen
wicked heath
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the purpose of the rituals are to make the cult (also known as the Ravens) so lucky that they get whatever they want: money and power.

sterile forum
wicked heath
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these rituals are done in the woods. But how to make rituals in the woods in a town full of people while staying incognito?

hallow aspen
wicked heath
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Well thats why one of em invented the legend of Forest Protector. To keep the town people away from the forest

wicked heath
ripe berry
hallow aspen
wicked heath
ripe berry
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Sorry about that

hallow aspen
ripe berry
hallow aspen
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but it looked wierd probs not the storm thing

sterile forum
wicked heath
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Now whatever happened to the cult that we can now call the Ravens? It has been around for a very long time. 30 years actually. And this is when we get more into Mr. Peterson himself

ripe berry
hallow aspen
wicked heath
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thats a whole dam machine

hallow aspen
ripe berry
# hallow aspen Yee

It's not a luck device, you hook it up to a generator, turn on the generator then throw two items in there to maybe get a new item

hallow aspen
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am not sure if its that thing noo

wicked heath
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You see, when Mr. Peterson was a kid, he befriended that other kid named Ike Gershowitz

hallow aspen
ripe berry
wicked heath
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yes. Kind of surprising, am i right?

hallow aspen
wicked heath
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just imagining me making friends make my skin begin to crawl

ripe berry
hallow aspen
wicked heath
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k maybe we can put the mixer machine aside

ripe berry
wicked heath
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dats a lyric

hallow aspen
hallow aspen
ripe berry
hallow aspen
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No cap

hallow aspen
ripe berry
sterile forum
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Dark lore for me I freaked out a bit and can't wait to see the sequel neighborclown

ripe berry
wicked heath
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Anyway, Roger and Adelle eventually knew about the Ravens and the devices. Obviously, their knowledge was shared with their son Theodore (Mr. Peterson). Theodore shared all those secrets with Ike

hallow aspen
sterile forum
wicked heath
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SOrry i keep saying Mr peterson, but back then he is a kid

hallow aspen
sterile forum
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I forgot Mr. Peterson's friend ...hmmm What is his name neighborhmm

wicked heath
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around 25 years later, Mr. Peterson became a famous theme park designer. He designed the most innovative rides in the whole world. He also got a family

sterile forum
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Oh

wicked heath
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Thats way after that. We are still behind Hello Neighbor Hide and Seek

hallow aspen
sterile forum
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Yes, it clarifies a few things from the game

wicked heath
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Mr. Peterson was known to design the most innovative parks in the world. But one day, an accident happened happened in his latest park in germany as a man died in the water-ride

wicked heath
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So, to flee the investigators who want to arrest him, he went back to Raven Brooks

sterile forum
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Wait I expect they 4 not 1

wicked heath
ripe berry
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Oh yeah right

wicked heath
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in book 1, its 4-5 teens

hallow aspen
wicked heath
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anyway big accident happens, he and his family flee to Raven Brooks

sterile forum
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Oh

silver vine
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NO

hallow aspen
wicked heath
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Oh no TinyCrow

silver vine
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also NO

sterile forum
wicked heath
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give them a moment okay? They are new

hallow aspen
ripe berry
silver vine
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absolutely incorrect

wicked heath
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TinyCrow calm down i got this

sterile forum
wicked heath
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Okay so. Where was I

silver vine
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@wicked heath just saw some of your vids

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they were

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absolutely amazing

wicked heath
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pls leave me alo- oh...

silver vine
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no

wicked heath
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sorry i got a lot of haters recently

hallow aspen
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Oh ye no But then I have a feeling like the hello enginner places in lore

silver vine
sterile forum
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๐Ÿ’€

silver vine
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I really really enjoyed your HN2 announcement trailer remake

wicked heath
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this is against the server rules to promote...

coral snow
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hey guys, what if the nieghbor is just tryna take over the milk industry

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and wants to have all the milk

hallow aspen
coral snow
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in the world

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๐Ÿ˜ฎ

ripe berry
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Please TC, stop talking for 2 seconds while Enzo is explaining the HN Lore

silver vine
coral snow
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Ik

silver vine
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so, at that time, neighbor's son was a kid

coral snow
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it took place after act 2

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rifht?

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but before act 3

wicked heath
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oh god things are going all over the place

coral snow
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like in 1997-1999

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ish

silver vine
silver vine
sterile forum
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This game have a long story but it's okay

silver vine
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nice

ripe berry
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Noice

coral snow
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๐Ÿค”

hallow aspen
hallow aspen
coral snow
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so uh, what if will they add the neighbor peeing again

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it was SO epic

sterile forum
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@coral snow Forget about it my friend ๐Ÿ’€

sterile forum
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Talk about "lore"

coral snow
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ok

wicked heath
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ok so

sterile forum
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So

wicked heath
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so. Where was I.

hallow aspen
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um

sterile forum
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Complete dude

hallow aspen
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ight lets continue

wicked heath
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ah yes right. So Mr. Peterson and his family flee to raven brooks

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Due to his wife unable to find a job as a theater dancer in town, Mr. Peterson has no choice, but to find a job to design another amusement park

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yknow, so Mr. Peterson can feed his family

hallow aspen
wicked heath
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Wat?

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U need money to bring food

sterile forum
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Yeah true

hallow aspen
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No like dont say it like that

wicked heath
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whats wrong

hallow aspen
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Flashbacks

wicked heath
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:/

sterile forum
young kayak
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what

sterile forum
hallow aspen
sterile forum
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Explain more, we don't understand what you mean

hallow aspen
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wait coming in amin

wicked heath
hallow aspen
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wait

wicked heath
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Mr. Peterson moves to the house of his dead parents and applies for a job at the Golden Apple Corporation

hallow aspen
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wow the sad music ish that played when i was young๐Ÿ™‚

wicked heath
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Mr. Peterson has a few months to build the multimillion dollar park

sterile forum
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Oh GOD

wicked heath
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But while he is designing the park, his family is constantly getting harassed by the town people

wicked heath
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Because, they are from Roger and Adelle's family, and the town people think they were mad scientists

wicked heath
ripe berry
hallow aspen
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Ay

wicked heath
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wait do u guys want me to put the lore of the entire franchise or just hn2

sterile forum
sterile forum
hallow aspen
wicked heath
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Cus if we are just talking about hello neighbor 2, i can skip a lot of unimportant stuff

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chat just died

sterile forum
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Can you make the shortcut?

loud tartan
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The chat got killed by the lore

wicked heath
hallow aspen
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man

sterile forum
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It means to shorten the story

hallow aspen
wicked heath
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(im just gonna assume u guys want the whole story so here)

wicked heath
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Mr. Peterson's family is constantly harrassed by people due to them being related to Roger and Adelle Peterson

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and guess what? Recently after the Peterson family moved to Raven Brooks, storms are BACK! More dangerous than ever!! And people start witnessing forest protectors all over again!

wicked heath
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There are only 4 kids who are friends with Mr. Peterson's children

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those are Enzo and Maritza Esposito, Trinity Bales and 7 year old Lucy Yi

hallow aspen
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imagain if it was 5 children fnaf

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Bro what

young kayak
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who reacted with this

hallow aspen
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@loud tartan ?

young kayak
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forget it

loud tartan
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what, why did you ping me

young kayak
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no useless ping

hallow aspen
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ok

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god

young kayak
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stop call me like this

hallow aspen
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Ok

hallow aspen
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And what do you mean like more forest prot sightings?

wicked heath
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sorry i was out for a second

hallow aspen
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ye

wicked heath
hallow aspen
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ok ok ik

coral snow
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hello chat I am back

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๐Ÿ™‚

hallow aspen
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lul

hallow aspen
coral snow
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Is it possible for aaron to be the crow?

wicked heath
hallow aspen
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s

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?

wicked heath
ancient apex
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what the heck happened lmao

hallow aspen
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Its lore chat

hallow aspen
coral snow
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but, I wansnt tryna troll

loud tartan
coral snow
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it was just a theory that is stupid, but you never know

hallow aspen
ancient apex
young kayak
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Freeze has been trying to tell the story for a while and you interrupted him

hallow aspen
coral snow
hallow aspen
stiff spire
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I wonder why they changed Lucy Yi's design in secret neighbor

hallow aspen
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PLs stop

coral snow
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cus, isnt this after the nieghbor becomes a psychopath

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like a while after that

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after aaron's sister dies

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too

hallow aspen
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talk on hello neighbor chat this is lore chat pls SHh

coral snow
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I am talking lore tho

hallow aspen
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Freeze pls continue if you want

hallow aspen
coral snow
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oh ok

loud tartan
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Just stop talking Moustacheless

coral snow
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how is the mayor gonna link up with the story?

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and the farmer

hallow aspen
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PLs shh

ancient apex
young kayak
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Lore Story, no interruptions

wicked heath
hallow aspen
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ok

silver vine
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its impossible for him to be the guest

lyric zephyr
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Yeah

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and also the fact Aaron's supposed to be in the Museum Attic while the Guest is running around at night

torpid sinew
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So in short

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We should all throw Aaron out the window when we find him in HN2

silver vine
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what if like

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after we break into the attic, when we get close to the bed, neighbor catches us

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and he locks Aaron inside the glowing room seen in deep dive

lyric zephyr
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Except the glowing room doesn't even exist lmao

silver vine
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it does

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but just not the door

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the room is still there

torpid sinew
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Okay but what if

silver vine
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cuz the room is still there

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the room to the left of the kitchen

silver vine
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this is the room at the left of the kitchen

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and, the glowing door is also at the left of the kitchen

silver vine
lyric zephyr
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There's yknow

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Legit not even room for a door there

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There is no door

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That room isn't here

silver vine
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he could build one

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easily

hallow aspen
silver vine
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no its not

lyric zephyr
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You can see from the garage door that the door is taller than the cabinet

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So it'd be VISIBLE

silver vine
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he could easily saw out a door

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so

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he could remove the closet and cut out a door, and put Aaron in the room

shrewd dove
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Maybe the room was there, they just made the spot to access it in a different area of the house. We still havenโ€™t seen like half the museum.

lyric zephyr
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But why would he move him to somewhere less secure than the attic

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In the same building

silver vine
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cuz Quentin breached the attic

silver vine
lyric zephyr
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Or just remove the boards?

silver vine
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what

lyric zephyr
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If that's the glowing door room

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The windows are just unblocked lmao

silver vine
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he could block it after he locked Aaron in it

silver vine
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there is no doubt in it

lyric zephyr
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Wouldn't it make more sense for Ted to just flee?
Rather than just to move Aaron to a more exposed room in the house

silver vine
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Ted wants to flood the town

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or his car is repaired

silver vine
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he clearly doesnt want to or cant flee

lyric zephyr
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Or,
Maybe the Deep Dive shouldn't be taken as "funky glowing room is da goal"

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Since the door legit isn't there anymore but the room is
Meaning the room likely has another entrance

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For it to even exist.

silver vine
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if you look around and examine everything even more, would've see that there is no other way to the room

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on neither of the floors

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in floor one, its at the left of the kitchen, on floor two, its at the left of the bathroom

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and, there is legit no door to access the room

lyric zephyr
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Or there could be a door on the outside of the room, yknow on the porch

silver vine
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mhmm

lyric zephyr
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Also slightly off-topic but
I think this Museum model as a whole is kinda different?

silver vine
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no

lyric zephyr
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Hallway is shorter

silver vine
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oh you mean like that

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ye, the look and feel has indeed changed from deep dive to beta

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but the exterior model hasnt changed

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the only change is that it has a different chimney, and has a large fallen banner spelling sumeum

silver vine
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lets analyze this and see if we can spot a door on the side of the porch

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wait, too blurry

lyric zephyr
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Wait

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What do you mean next to the kitchen?

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The โ€œkitchenโ€ room with the Neighbor using the binoculars is on the second floor

silver vine
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no

lyric zephyr
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But the glowing room would be on the first floor

silver vine
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I'll show you the proof

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which is in 5 min gameplay

lyric zephyr
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Okay yeah it is on the first floor, checked for myself

silver vine
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ok fine

lyric zephyr
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Why would I delete it if I already just confirmed what you said about the kitchen

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??

shrewd dove
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The kitchen room has the window that the neighbor looked out of in the first beta trailer.

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Extremely fun fact

lyric zephyr
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Also a friend noted that the โ€œkitchenโ€ looks more like a museum exhibit for the bakery

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Since it has the pretzel fridge, a cash register, tables and chairs

shrewd dove
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That would be weird to be in a museum. Itโ€™s just a gift shop sort of thing where people get food idk what to call it.

lyric zephyr
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And yknow the pretzel fridge only seen in the bakery

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But could just be model reuse

shrewd dove
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Probably, itโ€™s not like the baker made the fridge lol.

lyric zephyr
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Or couldโ€™ve been like a partnership thing
Let Gerda sell her goods in the museum gift shop idk lol

silver vine
silver vine
shrewd dove
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I analysed the entire thing when I made a half an hour video, โ€˜tis in the kitchen room .

silver vine
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no

shrewd dove
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yes

silver vine
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its not

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I've analyzed it for days

silver vine
shrewd dove
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What would u do if I prove

silver vine
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ok you prove first

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be quick

shrewd dove
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Well brb

silver vine
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ok, then lemme show my side of evidence until you get back

shrewd dove
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U find your proof while I

silver vine
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I already have

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meanwhile you have to "find"

silver vine
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but the walls in the glowing room are protruding further out

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@shrewd dove THE MOST strongest proof is this

shrewd dove
silver vine
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you can see the tip of the freezer in the room, next to protruding glowing room

silver vine
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while the walls of the kitchen are equal

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@shrewd dove just look

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the room with the freezer(kitchen) is more inside

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while the glowing room is protruding out

silver vine
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no wall is protruding out

shrewd dove
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Quentin enters by walking up the sign, which is to the side of the museum. The main 2 doors he walks through is facing the same as the sign, meaning to the right of the 2 doors is the front. The windows are farther to the right of the front of the house. Also the distance between the 2 windows of the kitchen and the front are the same. The 5 minute gameplay also shows him looking outside, which is what he does in the trailer. The glowing room does face the same way, but it doesnโ€™t really go anywhere. If those 2 windows werenโ€™t the 2 in the front, there is no where else for them to be.

silver vine
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there are 4 windows in the front in the front

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dont you see it

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two in the kitchen

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two in the glowing room

silver vine
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meaning, the other two windows on the protruding room does not belong to the kitchen

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so, its impossible for the room where Ted shut the curtains, to be the kitchen

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the guy left

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Im leaving too

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g'night

shrewd dove
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The distances donโ€™t match up and the lighting matches the kitchen, but idc that much so uh bye also nickyshrug

wicked heath
#

@young kayak

#

another troll

#

thank u

tawny dawn
#

Im back

wicked heath
#

k

tawny dawn
#

I was banned

young kayak
#

don't confuse kick and ban

wicked heath
tawny dawn
#

It said it was for 5 weeks

young kayak
#

wtf

wicked heath
#

imbir talking with imbir??

young kayak
wicked heath
#

*were

hazy slate
fiery phoenix
#

hello

#

ok theory

#

nicky does not exist

tribal talon
#

Nicky is your mom

stiff spire
#

confirmed

hallow aspen
#

Eh wut

wicked heath
#

well then

tawny dawn
#

Glowing door

pale urchin
hallow aspen
#

bo that might be something in game

#

secret

wicked heath
#

Isnt this like, the entrance?

#

With sunlight?

hallow aspen
#

Super cool stuff

hallow aspen
#

?/

ancient violet
#

Does anyone know what the burning house in the alphas was about? Because it was mentioned in the books by Nicky.

gleaming violet
#

nothing

slim citrus
#

the house turning into an field of grass wasnt in the books either

wooden pine
#

Omg enzo is the guest all along๐Ÿ˜ฑ ๐Ÿ˜ฑ ๐Ÿ˜ฑ

tribal talon
#

Trinity is guest smh

stiff spire
wicked heath
#

Have u ever considered he might not be the guest Moustacheless

fiery phoenix
#

i just realised

#

i am right about the guest being supernatural

#

so yknow how reset day takes place YEARS after hn1

#

and how the guest still roams around

#

well when we see the description of the guest in reset day

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its shown and SAID to have feathers

#

no human can grow feathers

wicked heath
fiery phoenix
#

the graphic novel

wicked heath
#

And guest in books is much different

fiery phoenix
#

reset days depiction

#

the graphic novel literally has him PHASE in water

#

no human can do that

#

or unless theres ANOTHER MCGUFFIN that lets people APPEAR in water

wicked heath
#

(But the funny symbolism)

#

(Flan plot)

fiery phoenix
#

reset day

copper wave
#

the devices/rings arent macguffins

#

they actually have a use/purpose

fiery phoenix
#

yeah to screw up weather and stuff

and for what reason

#

to have bad storms and be cool???

wicked heath
#

Wasnt guest in reset day looked like an actual humanoid crow?

fiery phoenix
#

to rid of Wayron Croobs?

wicked heath
fiery phoenix
#

but WHY

copper wave
wicked heath
#

Evil pat

copper wave
fiery phoenix
#

but even then

#

the luck goes down

#

the losers who were forest protectors ran out of luck

#

or smthn

copper wave
#

because they couldnt perform their rituals anymore

fiery phoenix
#

sucks to be them i guess

#

so wait are Forest Protectors a cult or not

copper wave
#

storms cause the devices to work
and the devices act as a catalyst to make the storms worse after they begin

wicked heath
fiery phoenix
#

so i can say that Hello Neighbors lore is centered around Cults and Weather

wicked heath
#

And a rogue goose

fiery phoenix
#

yeah

copper wave
#

and time travel tf

wicked heath
#

And gems

fiery phoenix
# wicked heath To flood town

the townspeople of Raven Brooks staring at their TV after hearing their EAS system talk about a Flash Flood (its probably those forest protectors again)

wicked heath
#

In gn2, the forest protectors have no relevence

fiery phoenix
#

losers

toxic mist
#

So basically old town is the mirror dimension

vernal zephyr
#

thedore peterson

wicked heath
hazy slate
ripe berry
#

here we go again

torpid sinew
#

What old Town

hazy slate
#

someone make a theory

ripe berry
tame mural
tame mural
#

Who is really Mart Wilson

fiery phoenix
#

but Mart and Mr Wilson are separate entities

#

but Jay is Mart

#

and Enzo is mr WILSON

#

which means they are man in the hat

torpid sinew
#

Man in the Hat is actually Joe Swanson

wicked heath
#

Where were even we

pale urchin
#

When the neighbor when he when it when the

hazy slate
#

imagine getting your cult destroyed by a child

#

they must have felt humiliated

gleaming violet
#

not true

glacial jackal
hazy slate
hazy slate
#

It's the Real Aaron peterson

ripe berry
#

And forgot to mention they never read the books

#

They mainly just have watched the AS pilot

hazy slate
hazy slate
ripe berry
#

Yeah I see

glacial jackal
wicked heath
errant hazel
#

true lol

ripe berry
#

true

proven igloo
tribal talon
#

Can you add HN2 to the list?

errant hazel
#

?

normal oracle
#

Anyone reading the books?

wicked heath
#

yes

normal oracle
#

nice

#

How many have you read?

wicked heath
#

10

normal oracle
#

oh

#

Im on the second one๐Ÿ™‚

wicked heath
#

the second one is interesting, but... it doesnt have that much informations about the lore.

normal oracle
#

ok

#

I didn't know that it was 10 books

#

I thought it only existed 6

young kayak
#

7 novels
2 comics
And... what was the last?

normal oracle
young kayak
#

I forgot the last

wicked heath
#

the guidebook

young kayak
#

Ah

normal oracle
wicked heath
#

no

wicked heath
#

also lore here

#

I have a feeling Guest is like the Green Goblin

ancient apex
#

green goblin?

wicked heath
#

or the syndromes from Venom

#

idk

ancient apex
#

maybe

wicked heath
#

dude doesnt look real, but still interacts with peterson

ancient apex
#

true

#

i still wonder why he looks like a costume though

wicked heath
#

and makes him do things he doesnt necessarly want to do anymore

wicked heath
#

the neighbor probably made the costume

#

and when he goes to the breaker, its like the costume, the evilness of the neighbor, fights back or smth

ancient apex
wicked heath
#

like "you have gone too far to stop here"

copper wave
wicked heath
#

the reason why i made a stupid comparison between the Green Goblin and the Guest is because I have a feeling, its two characters (one being the neighbor's evil consciousness), same body, the Neighbor's evil consciousness represented by the costume, like the Goblin being represented by Norman's mask. But thats just a theory. a STUPID theory. Thanks for watching

stiff spire
#

true the guest and the green goblin are both an alternate personality

stiff spire
#

I'm here

#

yup

wicked heath
#

oh

ancient apex
#

alright

wicked heath
#

well, what do you already know about the hello neighbor lore?

#

Its important to know at the very least the basics, before making any theories, otherwise, those may not make any sense

#

(i mean, its technically the same house)

#

Oh oh... watch out

stiff spire
#

yup they made a graphic novel

#

they made 2

wicked heath
#

Honestly, when i think about this, it does look pretty awesome. Credits to the drawer

stiff spire
#

moments before disaster

wicked heath
#

im not gonna spoil any more

stiff spire
#

switch

wicked heath
#

Steam

stiff spire
#

graphics aren't great but hey at least I have somewhere to play it on

#

and plus you can play wherever you go

wicked heath
stiff spire
#

lol

#

I hope they add Hello Guest on the switch and also the ps they can make it free while waiting for hn2

wicked heath
#

o geez.....

stiff spire
#

I like the ending route where you tie the rope onto the door

wicked heath
#

hey guys, remember the REAL secret Neighbor?

#

ah the april fool

stiff spire
#

oh yeah that one

wicked heath
#

hey its almost its birthday

stiff spire
#

early happy birthday freeze

wicked heath
#

NONO i meant HNB

#

Not me

#

Mine has already passed ๐Ÿ˜…

#

eh... a while ig

stiff spire
#

my birthday is on May

wicked heath
#

oh

#

welcome

stiff spire
#

oh cool welcome to the neighborhood I guess lol

wicked heath
#

ahh....

stiff spire
#

I joined the discord on another account but I never talked I just checked for hn news

wicked heath
torpid sinew
wicked heath
#

indeed

shrewd dove
#

I think when HN2 Beta releases, to stop anyone from saying โ€œWell itโ€™s not canon since itโ€™s a beta and means nothing!!11!1!1โ€ we should just treat it as temporary canon until full release. I donโ€™t think the devs will put in random stuff to mislead us and this is obviously the final raven brooks map they will make. If we treat it as canon, then we can peice together lore better and when full release comes, weโ€™ll be either proven right or wrong.

#

It was annoying to discuss hn2 alpha lore when every 2 minutes someone would bring up how itโ€™s not canon as an excuse. This is beta anyways, so itโ€™s different.

fiery otter
stiff spire
#

a beta 2?

fiery otter
fiery otter
#

It would be too close to the full version

stiff spire
#

oh yeah true

#

my guess for hn2 releasing is maybe somewhere in early 2023 or maybe in a couple of months somewhere around 2022

fiery otter
#

I think around mid to late 2022

shrewd dove
#

It looks like the final build of HN2, since itโ€™s a pre-order thing. You wouldnโ€˜t have to buy it if the final game was like a total new game and town.
The final game will likely just be a very updated and extended version of the beta.

fiery otter
#

Hopefully there's new puzzles in the buildings that were already in the beta

shrewd dove
#

Iโ€™m sure the puzzles will be somewhat light compared to the first game. Since they are actually doing what they should of last time and made it a stealth horror game.

stiff spire
#

I wonder how many characters there will be there'll probably be a lot but not like a lot like maybe 15 or something

fiery otter
#

Probably closer to 10

stiff spire
#

I think it would be cool if we can break into everybody's house but I think we're breaking into the only important characters

shrewd dove
stiff spire
#

plus it would take a long time to model new models for each house

shrewd dove
#

Quentin, Peterson, Neilson, Leslie, Guest, Mayor, Gerda, Otto, Farmer, Imbir, and Skipper.

fiery otter
#

But for characters with houses you break into

shrewd dove
#

I am sure there will be more after that since they said they havenโ€™t shown all of them.

stiff spire
#

yup

shrewd dove
#

Why does it even matter anyways

fiery otter
shrewd dove
#

There is no announced fisherman.

#

Also Neilson and Leslie count as the peterson house.

stiff spire
#

without the talking imbir here are the characters that were shown in the dev log the number of characters could not be final who knows

shrewd dove
#

I am pretty sure they were just randomly placing arrows since the CMs probably didnโ€™t know everything related to the characters.

#

And there is an arrow just facing the city, and one right behind Quentinโ€™s office.

stiff spire
#

I wonder if we'll get to visit the city in the background or will it just be for decoration

#

the tall buildings like the one they put for the first game

shrewd dove
#

Just decor I guarentee

#

Thatโ€™s the old build anyways

stiff spire
#

also I think I remember in one of the hn books there was a big square

#

I think that was when nicky and his friends went to nigiri nights

shrewd dove
stiff spire
#

yeah I mean town square my bad

#

I think it was mentioned in waking nightmare or missing pieces

shrewd dove
#

They could add one, but I think maybe having like a library would be a better idea for 2 purposes. 1. Could have a librarian to add to the roster. 2. Could have a lot of town lore and help Quentin on his ventures.

stiff spire
#

oh yeah

shrewd dove
#

There is a library where Peterson goes all the time in the AS.

fiery otter
#

No

stiff spire
#

I think there was a librarian mentioned in the neighbor's notebook

fiery otter
#

He goes to the county records

shrewd dove
#

Oh okay, well maybe that would be even better instead.

#

So itโ€™s focused on the town.

fiery otter
#

Well, time to add that to the map of RB I'm drawing

shrewd dove
#

Iโ€™m sure there could be a book when you tilt it, you get a secret room. It is needed, no compromises. bravesmile

stiff spire
#

and also there was a graveyard mentioned in nog simming so we'll most likely see one

fiery otter
#

Nog simming is non canon. >:)

#

So the graveyard is non existent.

stiff spire
#

oof

#

would be cool to have a graveyard

shrewd dove
#

Still, would be cool. I think stuff like this is up to them and if they like it, whether to put it before or after release.

stiff spire
#

yeah

#

I mean maybe we might see gray manor return lots of surprises we'll be expecting in hn2

fiery otter
#

There are two large open fields that have nothing in them on the beta map

#

Maybe they'll fill them in with something

stiff spire
#

yeah

#

for some reason I kinda wanna see a retirement home in hn2 that'd be cool

shrewd dove
stiff spire
#

interesting

fiery otter
#

Combine gray manor with the mill

pale urchin
#

I wanna see another dream sequence in hn2

#

Not a nightmare door with puzzles but a dream sequence where you get caught multiple times and a scene triggers

gray dome
#

as beta is definitely not final

#

as stated in some post idk what its a small sampling of the map

#

or something along those lines

#

go ask retro

hazy slate
copper wave
#

they were making the multiple times to see what will work and not work for the game

#

Beta map is likely the base/going to be used as the final map ingame

#

theyve been making it for at least 7 months, and maybe even longer

hazy slate
#

asides from that street that Quentin lives on.

copper wave
#

yeah, but there seems to be a sizeable amount of people that think that this stuff wont even be part of the final game

copper wave
#

but maybe they forgot that HN beta three was literally just the entirety of act 3 tf

hazy slate
#

because everything is too cramed

#

I don't think the mayor's office would be close to Friendly court.

#

maybe it'd be on a richer street.

#

I think we are gonna get a few sections to explore.

copper wave
#

โ€œRaven Brooks is not a particularly big town,โ€ Kravchenko says. โ€œBut itโ€™s pretty dense with all of the other bright characters that are colorful and interesting...."

#

Raven Brooks isnt going to be humongous, they want to make a smaller map with loads of content packed into the space

hazy slate
#

Friendly court and streets near it.

copper wave
#

instead of being walking simulator

hazy slate
#

Rich streets

#

Town Area.

#

and the golden apple

#

and possibly a forest area

hazy slate
#

such as everything that Quentin can't see behind him (Asides from NPCs) disappear

#

also GTG

#

adios

gray dome
#

i mean im basing it off what others think but u get the point

stiff spire
#

since they said hn2 will have no limitation on where you can go I wonder if there's an invisible barrier at some point

#

cause I mean the town isn't going to be that large

gleaming violet
#

the barrier is non existent

#

you can visit every place in the usa

silver vine
gleaming violet
fiery otter
blissful tusk
#

GUYS

fiery otter
#

What?

blissful tusk
#

I have a theory

#

No

#

Not just a theory

#

Itโ€™s canon at this point

fiery otter
#

A GAME theory

blissful tusk
#

YES

#

So detective

#

How does he get all off these Polaroid photos out of nowhere?

#

I have an answer

#

Detective is a young Joseph Joestar

#

He has hermit purple, and he uses the camera to show him where to go with the help of its abilities

gleaming violet
blissful tusk
#

It makes so much sense

fiery otter
blissful tusk
#

NO ONE could have ever predicted this

#

Not just MatPat himself

blissful tusk
#

@fiery otter itโ€™s canon now

pale urchin
#

Turns out that detective is a Japanese worker at a idk what is it

wicked heath
#

..

wicked heath
#

oh okay

#

So... Diane Peterson dies in car crash

#

and Aaron think his bad luck caused this to happen

#

Dude has gotten mad at some point and took his anger on his little sister. The reason is... a bit confusing to me

#

My theories:

#

A. Mya didn't understand the pressure Aaron was going through and he got mad because of the ignorance of his sister.
B. They sleep in the same bedroom, and Aaron needed to take his anger on someone.

I would stick with theory A. Anyone who understood the books more than me, pls correct me

#

Anyway, Aaron takes on his sister by stealing her doll and hide it on the edge of the roof

#

Mya eventually got to the roof and retrieved her doll, but Aaron got mad again and pushed her, but when Aaron realizes they are both standing at the edge of a roof, it is too late......

errant hazel
wicked heath
#

oh yes right

wicked heath
errant hazel
#

yeah

#

The house is literally different in every game or book

#

kinda annoying

wicked heath
#

ikr, Like i cant imagine Nicky's trilogy due to his room being faced sideway

#

so i have to imagine him in his parents room

errant hazel
#

Oh yeah, I forgot about that

#

P A I N

wicked heath
#

ikr

#

apparently, the peterson house is made of doors in nicky trilogy

errant hazel
#

yes

wicked heath
#

but there are about the same amount of doors in this house than any regular house

errant hazel
#

Oh sorry, I interrupted you, lol

wicked heath
#

it is totally fine

#

as long as its not 3 ppl

#

at this point, we cant keep up

#

so Mr. Peterson buried her daughter in his backyard

#

you see, he couldnt let anyone know about her death, cus the police may arrest him for lack of responsibilities over his children

#

And he would lose custody on his son

#

The only thing Mr. Peterson cares about is his family. And he had one person left. The very last person that keeps him whole

#

And NO WAY would he let death take Aaron away from him. So he did the very thing he "thought" he had to do: lock Aaron in the basement, with or against Aarons will, so he would be safe

#

yes

#

And everyone just goes along with it, cus nobody really care about the Peterson children..... except Nicky and Maritza...

#

...

#

u forgot already...

#

Ive been saying her and 3 other folks were Aarons and Myas friends before they decided to be a-holes and avoided them

#

(well actually, most of em. Lucy is dead anyway)

#

anyway, Maritza still keeps thinking about Mya and how she doesnt believe they have "ran away".
Meanwhile, Nicky doesnt believe the same and he has been... watching Mr. Peterson for a couple of months. Taking notes of everything he does for any signs of Aaron and Mya

ripe berry
#

I would continue it (bc Enzo is offline), but I won't

#

But I know where you're at, and there was a teeny tiny detail Enzo skipped over to save time

#

Which is that at First, Ted claimed that Aaron and Mya were in Minnesota

ripe berry
#

Goodbye

loud tartan
#

totally not funny

shrewd dove
#

He doesnโ€™t report them as runaways, Nicky gets the policeโ€™s attention so Mr. Peterson says they were living with a far away relative. That was proven false obviously. baggerhmm

wicked heath
fiery phoenix
#

hi

vital meteor
#

10 days until, LORE ANSWERS

fiery phoenix
#

i doubt hn2 beta will have any lore

fiery otter
#

.-.

gleaming violet
#

it will have lore hints

#

but not lore answers

#

anyone that thinks there will be lore answers are crazy

visual geode
#

oof

blissful tusk
#

I already have the lore, detective is revealed to be young Joseph Joestar, from the hit anime JoJoโ€™s Bizzare Adventure, this was told to me by my friend, who was told by his cousin, who was told by his friend, who was told by his older brother

gleaming violet
#

is it just me or were there so many more lore messages

fiery phoenix
#

that was the most active lore chats ever been

fiery phoenix
wicked heath
#

wait what...

wanton night
#

bread lore

fiery phoenix
#

the red is the added window

small belfry
#

window lore

wicked heath
slim citrus
#

Augggghhh

ripe berry
#

AUGH

wicked heath
#

I have a question: when u imagine. Nicky walk home in the books, which side of the road is he coming from?

hazy slate
#

I don't think the factory we see in HN1 is the golden apple factory

wicked heath
#

def not

ripe berry
ripe berry
#

In the HGA1 intro, Quentin/Beatrix get to the GAAP via a path by the Gas Station

#

This path also exists in the HN1 map

#

The path goes right by the factory (if you follow it correctly) before getting cut off by the map boundries

hazy slate
#

the factory looks like it's still operating though

ripe berry
hazy slate
#

also

#

there is a chance that the gas station isn't the same one in HN1

wicked heath
ripe berry
hazy slate
#

maybe it is

#

maybe it isn't

#

who knows

ripe berry
#

Why are you even questioning this

hazy slate
#

it most likely is the same one

ripe berry
#

It is pretty obvious they are the same Gas Station

#

The only other Gas Station (we know of) is out of bounds in Act 1 behind where the player starts from

#

But that obviously isn't actually meant to be seen as a Gas Station

toxic mist
#

Whadu mean

#

Itโ€™s the same sag nastion

hazy slate
#

I just said that because I'm not in a very good mood

stiff spire
#

I wonder if we'll see the golden apple factory in hn2

wicked heath
#

if we do, its probably empty af

ripe berry
#

Yeah

#

Bro HN2 just opened ONLY to give a crash report

wicked heath
#

nice

ripe berry
#

Now there's a random bit of text in the center of my screen that just says "lore"

#

Here's a picture