#lore-discussion
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where is that from? SN?
???
yeah, files
ok but how
whats it say then
"eye witness of _____ horror"
hi
I dont have iOS
they talked about it in discord
I saw
ye
have anyone noticed, that in HN2 alpha 1 and alpha 1.5, lights starts flickering whenever guest is near by?
when in sn?
Easter egg
ye, but when u can see that?
You'll here him kraing and see dust footsteps above. Like it 1.5/alpha 1. You don't actually see him though
And the lights flicker yes
u see that when u do Mayak event?
very rarely
no
Any map. Very rare
Actually VGN's is better because that video has people talking. silence is better when watching it for theory purposes.
kinda true
(VGN sucks so you're wrong...)
VGN does suck but at least there isn't random guys talking in his video
I had no way of knowing that
but still
the cutscene is better silent
que
this guys name makes me uncomfortable
how
That you've found something since the HN language is supposed to be something close to anagrams but not quite?
(I actually have no clue)
There is clearly some backstory of babies in sn
well, SN is imagination
yes
there is lore
but its all the kids imagination
babies?
???
yes
There probably is REAL lore but I’m not sure if people would like it if I explain it
i mean
this guy isnt wrong
see!!!
WHY
rocket event explained that entirety of SN is the imaginaion of Nicky's friends
What?
anyway
I have a brand new theory on the guest
what if the guest is the representation of all the crows and ravens in Raven Brooks
after all, these crows literally talk to ppl
so, they could've influenced Ted and made him turn into the guest
Who is "Rita" from the Animated Series pilot?
Just wondering
since the Animated Series is not dead
Atleast for right now
I deleted the obvious message sorry for typing it
why would kra like to kidnap kids?
Crows are a sign of bad luck
Being kidnapped is bad luck
he thinks ppl dont deserve them
XD
Is there two different kinds of lore here? Like the original hello neighbor story of him locking up his kid in basement and then you’ve got this other story like trapped in a video game baldis basics glitchtrap weird lore where you cause the neighbor to T-pose and then he’s removed from the game?
the what
Baldi isnt even canon to HN
No he referring to this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hlv4__5wFKE

Go to 11:40 in the video and start from there
bruh
I know that this is friendly court
Ok
and its really weird how much the town has changed
members only teaser confirmed it
Alright
the brown house in the distance is the act 1 house
its brown cuz lighting broke the colors
Alright
and now Nicky's house is green
pretty sure its a placeholder
but, its just really weird how the town changed
No it AS color pallete
ye
but design is different
its literally a copy of the white house next to neighbor's house
neighbor's house is also near a lake for some reason
Nicky house is green in the AS but, in the books, it is mentioned to be turquoise
So that is incosistent
yes, but the design...
Nicky's house in AS has some key points that his house always has
So Hn is mostly dream sthick or smth
distorted memory
AS Nicky house is the book accurate version, as it has his bedroom window facing the neighbor's house. Like in the books. Wish they would use it in HN2
So the house might not even look like it does in the first Three games
yes
theres also a trellis in AS Nicky's house
just as described like the books
it atleast has to have some key points
so that we can recognize that its Nicky's house
Instead of it being here (HN:ND (Content exspanion))
I wish they had replaced that house in CE
museum is also very close to act 1 house
But not in AS or act 1
I dont remember any book mentioning a museum being in the town either
nor in HS and SN
act 1 is also a memory
HN2 A1/1.5 is in 2002 based off my calculations
And HE is at the GAAP and not near the neighbors house
Hey atleast my Minecraft map isnt out of date on the fact that the Muesuem is close to the Neighbors house
No when you erase then neighbor from the game I’m just giving an example of the red shirt guy trapped in the game or smth like that
You mean "Filename_2"?
That’s a real teaser for hello neighbor 2?
Yes
Yes it is
Tinybuild Community tab on youtube dude
you blind or just joined this server today?
No I don't look at the community tab usually
But we talked about for 2 hours yesterday
Hence why I posted this message
oh i didnt see them
ok
If its friendly court then why doesn't it have a bunch of trees? Mr. Peterson's house is on friendly court and it had a bunch of trees around it.
So...
Time to redo this from scratch
The map can change at anytime dude
just like the canon
Act 3 moved from 2015 to 2017
*3
I meant 3
not 1
No I mean like in the HN 2 teasers Mr. Peterson's original house has a bunch of trees around it
SO, that is a beta map
yet here in this new teaser friendly court has like no forest trees
this is HN2
they considerably changed the layout
The map can change anytime dude
besides, the members only teaser confirmed that it is indeed friendly court
That is what I've been trying to tell him
yes
and that the brown house in the distance is act 1 house
the lighting just broke the colors
F@#k the lighting system
Well then I know why they've been having all of those random new job listings on their website for HN 2
It breaks colors somehow
I think they're in the engine instead of running the main game
So I think they've just broken the colors
probably
Which house is the Act 1 house?
The brown one
the brown house with the cop car
this one
There's that room with the slanted roof on it
But why is there a house that looks like it is from HN1 A1
you mean the white one?
Yes
I know what you're talking about
same
Also, that white house in the foreground is actually from the Hello Neighbor 1 alphas-
Nicky's house is just a copy of that house
And why is there a building that looks like the HN1 PA neighbor house
but with different color
see it in the corner there?
Yes that one
Hey guys you see the white house in the foreground?
With the two little windows peeking out from the roof?
It's a redesigned version of this background house from all of the alphas before Alpha 4 of HN 1
stop talking about it
we've talked about it for two minutes now
There's enough room in the Act 1 house for there to be an attic-
Take a look at it in that photo
Look at how tall that area is-
based on what calculations?
I saw somewhere that in HN2 A1.5 the Neighbor is 57
the Neighbor was born in 1945
1945 + 57=2002
When does Hello Neighbor 1 take place?
1996
98 in the games
no that is when the milk expires
97 then
Nikita said act 3 takes place in 2017, also said that theres 19 years gap between acts 2 and 3
so act 1 and 2 are his memories and never happened?
so, by calculation, act 1 is 1998 in the games
they did
They did
ok
Just they are distorted ingame
Act 2 happens 3 months after Act 1
*2
But still
its all a loop
That could make act 2 happen the year after act 1
Technically that allows act 2 to be like January and act 1 to be November and have them happen in 2 seperate years
In game SN happens during December (Map 4 calender)
But in canon it happens anywhere from August to October
canon is subjective
So anything you use to say stuff could be changed
Like the time frame between act 2 and 3
well, the original time frame was 19 years
Between act 2 and 3
prob sometime in the future
But like, what year does it happen in?
after the year phones with no home buttons were created
So sometime after Apple became a thing
Idk ask the person who made it
And why does it even matter
Idk just wondering
after 2016
So the phones are made by apple then, ok so, Apple exists in GN2
It is a joke my dude
phones in GN2 do not have home buttons
and, phones without home buttons were created only in 2016
so, thats why I think GN2 is after 2016
yes
Which happens in 2021
reset day is 2021
exactly
So I would say 2018-2019 so the neighbor had some time to rebuild his house
before Reset Day
Guys I think I know how he rebuilt his house
HOW?
along with the other houses that weren't there before
if he's possessed by the Guest
then...?
Ok
But the forest protectors got dismantled when the fire happened in book 6
But they could bring the band back together
and restart their sthick
Oh hay cba pleyer
It could be new people
They are new people
but they're still forest protectors
they still do rituals and crap
and they still presumably worship the guest
Hey if you have Xbox your should add me so we can talk without needing to type
No they seem to stop people from leaving so they don't have to deal with the guest
We even learn the town does not want new people but they won't get red of them and they even say you will be safer with us
My gamer tag is golden raven#922
O my goodness he did not rebuild his house
I dint say he did
the house is literally covered with grafitti and tomatoes and has chipped paint
did I replay to you?
You randomly come to lore discussion and and talk about a house that was not mentioned in this conversation
2018 should let the chipped paint get to that point if the neighbor neglets his house by 2021
Michael what is your gamer tag
the town ppl would know that hes building the house, and the cops also would've known hes building a house
the cops and the ppl wouldnt let him build a house
and cops will arrest him, cuz hes criminal
That's where the Forest Protectors come in to stop them from getting to Mr.Peterson (Who's now the Guest)
how can they stop them from getting to Mr.Peterson?
FPs are just a small secret society, whereas the town ppl are a huge mob
small society vs big mob
you know who would win
With luck devices the small society
So they could unbury it
they cant
it literally got buried under a giant concrete tunnel
how would you dig concrete?
Pickaxe
it would take them decades
also would've caught public attention
and the luck devices just turn the tides of luck, doesnt stop ppl from coming near a house
So it could make it in their favor
what
By putting the luck on them when people got close to the house
HOW
they literally have to do a complex ritual during a storm to turn luck
the luck devices are also unobtainable
they wouldnt even find it
So one of them change the weather using Mayak while the others start the ritual
its literally somewhere under the town
how would they even find the exact location of where it is
So doesn't mean they couldn't find it
it does
and the digging through the concrete takes decades
The old Mayor wasn't arrested during book 6
Only stepped down
and?
he could see it getting buried
the fact is, he didnt
and tell future members of where they was buried
he didnt even go to the ritual
That is why he stepped down and wasn't arrested
You sure
yes
plus it would literal DECADES to dig through and even find the damn device
also would've caught public attention
and public wont allow them to do that
So, The Guest could use time loop Shtick to get there in what to everyone else was only a couple minutes
that would reset the digging progress
and make the area around the dig spot be in a time loop
Not the dig spot itself
As we do not know how the time loop shtick works
we do know
kinda
the whole town gets reset to November 2nd
and only those ppl having the special gems dont get reset
The guest controls the loop
and?
And could make it not effect where he is digging
doesnt mean he can choose a specifc spot where the loop doesnt occur
It could
also keep in mind that it would take decades to dig through
As we do not actually know how the time loop shtick works
I know but the guest is supernatural and if their is a sewer near where they were buried he could start from the sewers and dig up
And mine up
Or to the left or right or smth
if they did that, then the debris would just fall on top of their heads
so, they wouldnt mine their way from the sewers
even if left or right
its just a big dump of debris
they cant start from the middle
only from the top
He could force the shovel as deep as he could and if it goes past the luck devices he could access them
By digging it back out
what
Melt the concrete using fire
Damn if only he could, you know, F@#k with time in certain spots
also I dont think you can melt concrete
And make the luck devices not melt
at a high enough temperature you could
also even if they know where it is, it would be super hard finding them
and?
even if there is a very minor placement error, like even 1 mm away from the exact spot, they would have to start all over again
Doesn't mean impossible
So, still possible
it would also take them approximately 30 years
no, it technicaly isnt
and, its not even been 30 years since they got buried
You sure
yes
2021 - 1992 = 29
And 29 is close to 30
you said neighbor rebuilt his house in 2018
and, FPs are Ted's enemies
But Ted is being controlled by Guest
who uses his house in HN2A1/1.5
Which happens in 2002
Or atleast a simular house
actually, what if it was like this: HN books - timeloop - HN games - end of HN
I mean, first there were books, then it all timelooped back to beginning and then it was like in games
These 2 mysterious images on the monitors. The one on the right is a image of a part of the neighbors house from hn act 3, the other one on the left could be a road with trees. Think this could be relevant to the hn lore?
Probably not
Which part of the Act 3 house is it?
Back entrance by the kitchen
Odd
They just never bothered removing them lol
Honestly the left one looks like the old art style from before Alpha 4. It could be that long dirt road from those REALLY early teasers and the prototype fangame
That’s what I thought
Also, the left one is cut in half
The bottom one looks like its upside down
Wait-
It's not
I know where the bottom part of the left one is
where?
Let me get the screenshot of it-
ok
It was taken right here:
no it wasnt
Then where?
it was taken here
I was talking about the bottom one on the left
OH
i think the bottom one is some road with trees
its this part
so all of you are now gonna be in a youtube video
pretty sure they were just added as a decoration to actually show anything on the screens rather then have anything related to lore
K
Hmmm... Might have to think about that possiblity
Actually no
The time loop begins on November 2nd 2021
not like, March 1995
(Taken from HN: H&S)
really?
HN Reset Day
god dammit, I have to read it
Also,
Nicky Can't move in 4 times
All in different months and/or years
He moved in during the Month of August in 1995 in HN Book 1, March in 1995 in HN: H&S, he moved back in either in 2015 or 2017 based off statements
And the area outside of Raven Brooks isn't even in a time loop
Again HN Reset Day
So Nicky couldn't move in on 4 different dates
bruh, Im stupid
Not to mention how Marzita would use her gemstone ring thing that lets her remember the stuff from the previous loop and would be able to tell Nicky about what happened to Aaron and Mya
So the plot of HN wouldn't happen
Because Nicky knows what happened to Mya
Meaning he would know what Mr.Peterson wants
which is for Nicky to enter the Basement so Aaron could have a friend down there
So basically
U stupid
he can only move once
he didnt move in in March during HNHS
there is nothing saying that he moved in March
I said 4 times because he moves in in August 1995, then moves back in 2017
yes, calendar says its March
But H&S is still 1995
he can move back in 2017, cuz loop didnt start in 2017
yes
This guy hasn't read Reset Day
ye
well, he prob took the gem from Maritza and the others some time after reset day
I was just adding that in for no reason but to help disprove his thing
my theory is that after reset day, neighborguest took away the gems from them and he looped time all the way back to the 90s, and HN2 begins after that
sameeeee
just like HN2 A2
which will prob release after HN2
cuz, Alex said Ep. 2 will be intro of HN2
so, it'll prob contain HN2 spoilers
Actually can't wait to see it to fully understand what is going on in HN2
Just like how we needed the books to fully understand what was happening in HN1
And it is nice to have some context for the game
*what has happened in HN1
true
Can't wait to see how bad they mess up Quentin's look in AS
XD
We already have designs for Nicky, Mr.Peterson, The Neighbors family (Posters in one of the rooms), Marzita, Enzo, Trinity, Bagger, and Inventor, we still have Scout, Imbir, The vandals from HN2, Quentin, Guest, Beatrix, MitH, and all the other characters in the other HN games and media for them to mess up
well, Mya and Diane also have pictures, just like Aaron
I changed them out for more HN2(?) characters
Technically Mya and Diane are book traces
And Aaron physically appears in the AS
I really want to see his new design
I mean
True
jimmy neutron lookin
Why did they scrap the old book Diane design
No, on the board it showed Aaron and it was basically just his H&S looking model
I don’t have an image tho
I was talking about purple sweater Aaron.
I know, it’s just his face looks like HS
True.
that doesn't even look like aaron lol
Book magic
Characters look completely different (Except for Nicky he stayed the same for some reason)
this pic makes him look adopted tbh💀
He is adopted.
HN lore be like:
sa
What’s AS?
Animated Series.
K
Wait there’s new episodes?
Kool
Time stamp for him?
20:22
Thx
Found him
Why does Aaron/Mr.Peterson have a list of names of the main cast?
Because they're the Petersons?
like, the main cast of the AS (Mainly the SN characters) names?
Mr. Peterson has a hunch that the AS kids know about what he's been doing
Ok
You’ve got to be kidding me I clicked on an unloaded image..
Okay nevermind it loaded and says chicken fortnite okay not a scam lol
Aaron in animated show = purple guy fnaf?!?!?!11?!
long purple sleeves with bloody shoe
?
?
LOL
Wow I'm so funny guys!
its not funny
I hate when ppl make jokes on HN lore
Aaron is young Quentin
why is this funny?
Aaron is crow man (confirmed) (real) (gone wrong) (3AM) (sent to jail) (gone right) (almost died)
HN Lore Be Like: 💩
LOL
Literally that is the title of a lot of videos on that one YT channel that milks Hello Neighbor
You mean video gam- I can't say the rest they are too cringe
Well that and the channel Trinity and Beyond
The what
I checked and now I am depressed.
So, who is the Guest?
I do believe the Pre Alpha takes place in Spain but it’s although not canon
And in Alpha 1, it’s in the UK or Ireland
As well as alpha 2
Alpha 3, I do believe it takes place somewhere in Europe (Not Russia, considering the language is English)
And in Alpha 4 to the final game (especially secret neighbor and hide and seek) takes place in Russia
actually full game and all the games past it take place in america
They all take place in George Washington land.
Actually, I noticed that the tv has 2 languages, 1 is Russia, and 1 is English, I may be wrong but it might take place in Alaska
It takes place in America. The books confirm it.
The full game, at least
Missouri to be specific
How do u know this info?
You see
He doesn’t
okay good...
It is actually true, it’s ok if you don’t believe me, if your not a European
I also forgot that the tv, also speaks Spanish (the original message got deleted for no reason and was moderating awfully)
bad lore
evil HN lore be like: im not confusing and i make sense. im also not shit
true
true
true
true
I preferred the "portal-like" basement door more than "kidnapped children-like" basement door.
well, the HN2 basement door does look portal like
but, I dont think it will be tho
what thing
I dont think they will
(sorry I'm Russian, i can make some mistakes)
hmmm
the old alphas story was different
it was that the player was in coma, and he come to life only by going thru basement
now, the story is vastly different
so, I dont think portal inside basement is returning
got hit by light pole
Got hit by a lamppost and then the neighbor drove him to presumably the hospital
While we were in a coma
Alpha 1 ending is the bad ending
As you die at the end
Pre-Alpha ending (I you can call it one) is the good ending
The Player escapes the coma and wakes up
ye
I wonder what happened to Aaron
hes always missing in every new HN media
I wouldnt be surprised if he died
He is the one who burned Mr.Peterson's house down
again, only hinted, no confirmation
Hinted very much
He said they'd answer why the house burnt in dlc
Hs
wow
still banned
thanks dyno
I know
but still
they coulda changed the story
sure
doubt
same
my goodness he didnt rebuild it
I changed it to be "back up"
But still
How is that possible?
The house had almost nothing left in Act 3
But in Reset Day, which is only 4 years later
same thing happens to the park
It is like the house was never brunt down in the first place
got destroyed before act 1, but still its there in HN2
mayak will explain everything
dont overthink everything
Ok explain how Mayak explains everything
ask Nikita
he was the one who said "books are canon becuase of mayak, and mayak will explain everything"
may cause time loops 
But that can't change history to make the games and books line up together
yes
If you look, the area around that bill board is glowing
and we all know that behid that billboard is the Mayak house
yes
We also know that HG isn't as scrapped as we think
also will be in full release
cursed billboard
So, what if the Mayak is creating another dimension here
could be
And that dimension is the book dimension
And during the events of book 6, it creates the version of HN1 seen in the AS
mayak also has a different design in the books
But in HN2, the dimensions are crossing together
Allowing AS ep.2 to be the HN2 intro
AND for it to be a seperate universe
they also said that AS will tie books and games togather
so, your theory isnt so far fecthed
Act 1 is a "Absolute Point"
That in this case means that it must happen
Hence why all 3 universes have a "Act 1"
For HN1 it has... well... Act 1
For the Books it has Book 3
and for the AS it has the pilot/Ep.1
So... I think we just figured out how to explain the inconsistencies between the Games, Books, and AS
So... anything anyone wants to add to this theory
The mayak house IS in HG alpha 1
I have seen it
it's hard to get to but
if you fly to the ending area before picking up the phone
the cutscene won't trigger
unless it was patched
Let me see if I can find it again
maybe there is a version of Raven Brooks where the alpha kids didn't get removed 
Maybe
I will send a video of how to get there after picking up the phone
I got this close before falling off the hill and being sent to the hospital
got even closer before time ran out
Found it
best image I could get
UUU lul
????????
you don't know what uuu is? lol
no?
Universal Unreal Unlocker
makes your life 10x better for screenshots
is it a debug camera?
worst thing in the world
I want even able to connect to steam for weeks after I injected UUU to HN2 Alpha 1
not on me
it is
UUU has no association with Steam
if it does u can send the evidence
ill wait
after I injected UUU to alpha 1, the game crashed and it said "harmful file detected, succesfully isolated"
and, I wasnt able to connect to steam for weeks after that
whats kek?

man i love lore
look it up for gods sake
you can do cool things with UUU
says the person who despises jokes
I never said a joke now?
ok but like
you take jokes seriously
all the time
so am i wrong?
it doesn't have to be from you
thats cuz I cant get them
remember that one teacher aaron talks about who has a toy collection on his desk
he's actually god
boom
lore
“I wonder what Aaron is doing….”
“I want to die.”
true
Aaron is considering how his house is hell for his father in every game asides from hide and seek
Why?
joke or srs
Ted wouldnt do all sorts of crazy things like flooding the town, stalking ppl, etc, if Aaron was still alive
are u
are u completely sure
Have you considered the fact that the authorities could’ve taken Aaron away
tru
Or the fact that Ted is mentally unstable
that's possible
Or the fact that the man literally locked his 13 year old son up in his basement
aaron could have been evacuated ahead of time you know
:(
Have you also considered the fact that Ted dressed up as a bird
he def wouldnt have told about Aaron
yeas surree
Nicky wouldnt want his best friend, the only one who is alive who can truly understand him, to go to jail
I don't think Aaron would go to jail if the recording was shown in court
Plus
he might get in for manslaughter
How would they even know he killed Mya
i
Exactly
For all they know Mya could’ve said “aight I’m out” and ended her own life
Teenagers can go to jail
he could go to juvenile prison
for slaughtering man
or at least it works like that here
but considering how young he is he might be given a less strict sentence perhaps
idk about us
"If found guilty by the Family Court judge, the youth could face time in a juvenile facility, but not more than five years"
20 years imprisonement
oh, 5 years then
Involuntary Manslaughter.
Even though it was an accident he would go to jail for killing mya
He def wouldn't go to jail
manslaughter
OH right
for slaughtering his sister
Oh yeah another point
But he would probably end up in a juvenile facility
Also we know he's around to burn the house down
Kinda
So I doubt he's dead
I can imagine the doctors going ham on the poor kid as well
about everything
he could die in the fire
Who says he was there when the fire started.
he was the one to start it
he could have poured gas
lit it
then ran like heck
according to hs
What I'm saying is he has to have been alive to burn it down
according to Alex, he was the one who burnt it down
he would also have to be at the house
since you know
he was the one who started it
thanks banned person
@torpid sinew Too many caps.
My only question is why would he burn down the house in the first place?
why would Aaron actually burn the house tho?
¯_(ツ)_/¯
exactly
Probably out of anger
i wish i had the podcast
or sadness
Like it seems obvious, he was locked up in the house and wants to get revenge but like
sadness prob
he burned for sadness
if he moved back to Raven brooks he would have to look at that blue house on friendly court
and be reminded of everything
and he doesnt like looking at it
They're gonna pull a FNAF 6 Michael on us
so he destroyed it
Please do.
Exactly
Exactly
Aaron has a lot of potential
It wouldn't really fit his character
Exactly
And seems to be the most developed
hs is weird
it kinda does
Kinda
that one guy pointed out a lot of stuff in hs before
looking at the house reminds him of everything, everything he did to the fanily, and out of sadness and anguish, he coulda burned it down
down to the ground
yes
Aaron blames himself
for his family being killed
probably nicky being kidnapped
Going to elaborate on this.
bye bye
Or it'll reveal Aaron is actually just a corpse with a robot inside of him possessed by Mya and that Ted is actually dead inside a mascot suit and him and Jay Roth decide to burn down the house with Ted and all his victims inside of it and it fails and Ted is actually a computer virus in a modern VR horror game an-
and a lot of symbolism i guess
among **u s **
adios
where have I heard a similar story
oh, at that "ghosts possesing robots in a pizza shop" game
I posted a movie trailer that was basically that earlier lol
They could very well pull a FNAF 6 though
I remember the name.
Depressed and truamatized son tries to light his horrible past ablaze only to fail
Baldi’s Basics in Education and Learning
"he still owes me 5 dollars"
Hello Neighbor son (Erin) burns and dies (not clickbate)
It'd make sense since Nikita said H&S was related to HN2 and Aaron is literally on fire running through town so-
no
I think it was Bendy and the Ink Machine
Man I can't wait for empathy! (Aaron commits arson the game)
“Enzo. It’s been 16 years. You still own me 5 dollars.”
“F off.”
yup
alex said that they'd answer how the house would burn down in dlc
which turned into hs
and why
I like to think that the basement collapsed
sometime in the future
and thats why Guest is locking ppl in the attic
Isn’t there like
like what?
A giant hole under Act 3’s burnt down house
proof
Are you talking about Reset Day?
The hole they dig up in that?
Oh
Okay
So like
Go behind the house
Around where the basement should be
And there’s like
A hole
ok let me check
And now we wait
play the game
lol
wait, you playing in epic games?
wait is HN 67 mb or is that your computer storage💀
nice
Maybe you’re right
steam just has utter dogshit dl speeds
UI just reminded me of epic games
Could’ve sworn there was a hole
