lore-discussion

[torpid sinew]

So he became fat and moved to Raven Brooks

[gleaming violet]

Joe Gardener did some Gardening™️ and become bored

[agile hare]

bor

[opal jackal]

Or

[tribal talon]

this wasn't directed at a HN character, it was directed a child who basically died and came back to life for the hell of it

[scarlet pivot]

just got reset day. Time to get confused

[wicked heath]

yes

[graceful ridge]

why did the pre alpha have several different lights

there was a super bright one

which made it impossible to see

and a red one

:/

[graceful ridge]

Okuyasu Nijimura

[torpid sinew]

Yes.

[tribal talon]

or died from the impact

bagger is not human....... No he is much more.... he is.... a god....

[sacred vessel]

remind me, why has no one simply called the cops on Mr. Peterson?

[tribal talon]

the cops are stupid

[sacred vessel]

figures...

[torpid sinew]

Canon

[tribal talon]

Lore

[wicked heath]

true. Its def true

[graceful ridge]

bruh the books are scarier than the games

[torpid sinew]

Because there’s actual deaths “shown”

[tribal talon]

marling

man in hat existed before the update

there is someone new in raven brooks

[gray dome]

what

why does that matter

the j man said nothing abt smith

[tribal talon]

bigfoot

theres someone new in raven brooks

marling said its man in hat

but man in hat was here before the update

so yeah

[mystic bramble]

so far there isnt because hes not in files or the maps

[brittle wren]

I reckon that shadow guy in the first game is the son's soul

[torpid sinew]

No

[mystic bramble]

he isnt

[torpid sinew]

The Thing is the representation of fear

[brittle wren]

Oh

[torpid sinew]

Nicky’s (The Player) fear is Mr. Peterson (the Neighbor), Mr. Peterson’s fear is Aaron (The Son)

[brittle wren]

I know the names

Of some characters

Not all

I know 3 sn kids

[gray dome]

yeah, it is

[torpid sinew]

So you’re saying

They hyped up someone new

Only to make it someone we already had

[mystic bramble]

yep

[torpid sinew]

https://tenor.com/view/rage-keyboard-what-is-your-problem-green-smash-gif-18195947

[silver vine]

Ppl have called the cops

Once Nicky called the cops before HN1

And nexttime Nicky(or someone else) has called the cops in HN2

[tribal talon]

Enim

[torpid sinew]

Eminem in HN2 😳

[gleaming violet]

confirmed

alex told me

[torpid sinew]

(Real)

[gleaming violet]

he also told me how he came up with hn

real

[tribal talon]

he isnt? I know it isnt man in hat, man in hat was here before the update

[lyric maple]

Interesting

I found my long lost brother

[wicked heath]

can anyone ping me with the picture of (supposedly) bagger's family form GN2?

[wicked heath]

noice

[mystic bramble]

black = bagger

[wicked heath]

bagger is now canon

what about scout now

[mystic bramble]

why would that kid be bagger

[wicked heath]

haircut is kinda similar ig

idk

[mystic bramble]

ehh

[torpid sinew]

He looks similar

Although it’s mainly the hair

[mystic bramble]

every white person is now nicky

[versed yacht]

Thay have to introduce the Jesus of the hello neighbor series into the books somehow

[wicked heath]

Yes

[versed yacht]

If bagger is Jesus does that mean he was..

[strange lance]

Why are the dad's eyes pure black

[versed yacht]

You know what nevermind

[wicked heath]

Jesus is Nick and The Devil is Nibor. Enzo is the guy from the borble

[mystic bramble]

walking on water, just like the guest in alpha 1.5

[versed yacht]

True!

[torpid sinew]

Guest is Jesus

Diane is Nicky

Aaron is Enzo

Theodore is old art bread

Trinity is Pre-Alpha Man

[wicked heath]

Maritza is devgamm

[tribal talon]

inventor is r̴͓̍e̵̍̑d̴̥̉ḁ̵͠c̸̺̊t̸͋͂e̸̹̾d̷͕̊

[storm salmon]

~~Inventor is jimmy ~~

[torpid sinew]

Jimmy 😳 Neutron 🤑

[torpid sinew]

I just finished Reset Day

And I just realized

Nicky could’ve possibly died during the 4 year gap

[silver vine]

When will it be confirmed that Quentin is neighbor's son?

[sterile remnant]

never

[silver vine]

Why

Its kinda obvious that Quentin is neighbor's son

[sterile remnant]

You are being controlled by the "Quentin is neighbor's son... ers"

[silver vine]

Yessss

[round geode]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1SfJuVTw_jM hello neighbor leak

[gleaming violet]

oo

[wicked heath]

why would I click when I can see the preview and the title

[gleaming violet]

so foony!!

heehe

[wicked heath]

[gleaming violet]

soooo FooOnyu

[minor kayak]

You're joking right

At this point I can't tell

[wicked heath]

he/she is

[gray dome]

they are

[wicked heath]

yes

dats the one

[silver vine]

He

[silver vine]

https://tenor.com/view/nooo-no-nope-no-way-screaming-gif-15477187

[silver vine]

We had a whole drama about this in HN Server

And ZPEFM still calls me they, just to annoy me

[agile hare]

That's it, you're so freaking dumb of my God, how the heck, I'm going insane

[shadow summit]

i cant tell if they're being sarcastic or not :troll:

[tribal talon]

Aaron Peterson and Mya Peterson are already Mr. PEterson's children.

People think Nicky Roth is his child.

[sterile remnant]

Have u met one?

[torpid sinew]

It’s dumb

[sterile remnant]

I need to talk to him

[torpid sinew]

Although Nicky used to be Ted’s child

During Alpha 4-Beta 3

[sterile remnant]

ew

I hated that

[torpid sinew]

Same

The storyline was ew

[wicked heath]

Plot twist: HN is a game made by Nicky Roth and the Guest is a virus (a digital replication of Mr. Peterson) and escapes the game (totally not a fnaf reference)

[strange lance]

😳

[wicked heath]

he now kidnaps IRL people to show them how it feels to lose something

[tribal talon]

thats the picture in beta 3 house right? nicky roths house not the neighbors

[torpid sinew]

That’s the Neighbor’s

[tribal talon]

what

[maiden moth]

what if the neighbor has a second personality

[silver vine]

How?

[maiden moth]

well, from the books we know that aaron is sometimes wishing that his true father is coming back or something like that

[silver vine]

😑

He meant that he wanted a non insane father

when he was young, neighbor wasnt crazy

He wanted non crazy neighbor back

[maiden moth]

yeah thats what i meant

[gleaming violet]

thats not what you said

[maiden moth]

sometimes neighbor is crazy and sometimes not

[silver vine]

You said he had different personalitys

[maiden moth]

yes

[silver vine]

He was always crazy

He went off his nut after the incident at the GAAP

And he went completely off his rails after the deaths of his wife and daughter

[fervent mirage]

[tribal talon]

They would at this point

[wicked heath]

they would wot

[wanton ridge]

hi

[spark shale]

Hello

[plush kiln]

so i just read "the raven brooks disaster"

i am so confused

[agile hare]

cancer

[plush kiln]

i'll put it in a spoiler tag ||It's.. very vague on whether or not the raven man is supernatural or not, which I get but like... it's confusing. Becuase we see it appear and then Mr. Peterson fighting it. So... is it a spirit or something that just happens to LOOK like him, or is it actually Mr. Peterson and the one he fought was like.. all in his head because he's crazy or something. Because Regina claims he's the raven man and he looks guilty and never says he isn't.||

[wicked heath]

Neighbor is the Guest but not quite

[shrewd dove]

||When she accuses him of the raven man he says “What do yo-“ Probably saying “What do you mean”, so he might not know about it, I’m not sure though.||

[torpid sinew]

Maybe

We don’t know that much

Guest could be Ted, Guest could not be Ted

[plush kiln]

||I'm guessing he was gonna feign like he didn't know, but then once she continues, he actually does try to turn off the machine like she asks, so at the very least she got through to him somehow||

[shrewd dove]

Yea

[sterile remnant]

What if there's two Guests

[torpid sinew]

Maybe

[sterile remnant]

What if there's 67 Guests?

or 789,980,567 guests?

[torpid sinew]

https://tenor.com/view/modern-problems-solutions-dave-chapelle-gif-13450651

[sterile remnant]

https://tenor.com/view/hello-engineer-secret-neighbor-theodore-masters-peterson-hello-neighbor-hello-guest-gif-20969892

This spider is part of lore now

[tribal talon]

i want to know what the year diferance is from the first game and hello neighbor 2 cuz it definitly looks like the neighbor aged in hello neighbor 2

[torpid sinew]

Art style change probably

[tribal talon]

yeah mabye but raven brooks looks so differant to the first game

[torpid sinew]

I mean

Raven Brooks wasn’t really fleshed out in HN1

[gleaming violet]

HN 2 is after act 2

[tribal talon]

i know. im not an idiot

[silver vine]

There is literally 0 years

It takes place like right after act 2

Or right before

[tribal talon]

yeah but the whole town looks so diferant

[silver vine]

Artstlye change

[tribal talon]

yeah probly

[silver vine]

Nikita has said that HN2 takes place when Nicky was a child

And by the looks of it, it seems either it's right after or right before

Act 2

[tribal talon]

so mabye in HN2 we will find out how mr peterson's house burned down

[silver vine]

Prob

[tribal talon]

yeah

theres so many HN games now

[silver vine]

Not as many as FNAF games tho

[tribal talon]

yep u got that right

[silver vine]

guys

Im srsly starting to think that HN2 can be after act 3

[tribal talon]

but act 1 house

[minor kayak]

Theres 5

Compared to most games like fnaf where they have like 8 games or a series like Mario

That's not much

[gleaming violet]

wait

there are like 12 or 13 fnaf games

[minor kayak]

Why would the posters still be up so many years later

And how

[minor kayak]

I counted 1-6, then HW and SD, not the spinoffs

[gleaming violet]

doesn't paper eventually die or something after awhile (idk i never finished paper class)

[minor kayak]

If you count the spinoffs and troll games then yeah there's more

[minor kayak]

Usually they're taken down

But if they aren't then yes the paper disintegrates after a while

Especially with the amount of rain in the town

[tribal talon]

and that hurricane, right?

[silver vine]

Either RB ppl are lazy, or they dont care, or they dont know that Nicky escaped

[torpid sinew]

I like to believe that they don’t know Nicky escaped

Maybe he and his parents left Raven Brooks while everyone was asleep.

[gleaming violet]

Raven Brooks citizens are just really dumb

[torpid sinew]

True

[whole elbow]

FNaF fans after saying HN is being milked meanwhile they have 13 FNaF games, 9 books, and a movie being made

[wicked heath]

9???

So much more dude

[tribal talon]

loool

[torpid sinew]

Not to mention the loads of merchandise

HN only had a few plushies, action figures, statues, and bootleg LEGOs.

[sterile remnant]

wait there bootleg

[torpid sinew]

Not bootleg per say

They’re these toys that are basically like LEGOs.

[earnest warren]

i think both are equally being milked

[torpid sinew]

HN2 Crow Guy is the Guest

We don’t know much about him, other than the fact that he could be Mr. Peterson

Book Crow Guys are Forest Protectors

[silver vine]

Thats not crow guy

Its just a bunch of ppl scaring the town into believing that there are crow ppl in town

And the crow guy from HN2 also appear in the books

Seems like he is very mysterious

Its the guest

And the guest is Mr.Peterson

And at the same time he isnt

[sterile remnant]

ye

what fi Aaron was guest

[silver vine]

The crow guy from HN2's official name is the guest

Guest is Mr.Peterson

At the same time he isnt

there isnt certain crow guy from the books at all

[sterile remnant]

don't they call the guest Raven Man

[silver vine]

Yes

[sterile remnant]

yes

[silver vine]

those ppl are a society

Secret society

[sterile remnant]

Forest Portecters

[silver vine]

Those ppl in the society have devices which can change luck

Yes

Yes

Guest and Forest Protectors are different

[sterile remnant]

there is one guest

[silver vine]

There is only one guest

[sterile remnant]

bird man

[silver vine]

They're different

no

[sterile remnant]

it's a book

[silver vine]

Reset day takes place like, years after HN2

[sterile remnant]

like 20

[tribal talon]

hi

[sterile remnant]

hi

yes ik

[silver vine]

Is this helping?

[sterile remnant]

no

it takes place after act 2

right after

like 1997

[silver vine]

HN2 is 1997

[sterile remnant]

what

enzo is a kid before hn1

1996

[silver vine]

1997

[sterile remnant]

no?

that's RESET DAY

[silver vine]

He doesn't even appear in HN2

[sterile remnant]

reset day is in liek 2010

enzo is older

[silver vine]

2021

[sterile remnant]

oh

[sterile remnant]

so neighbor is like 80

[silver vine]

U r dum

[sterile remnant]

wha

[silver vine]

Yes

[silver vine]

Didnt mention u

[sterile remnant]

he's still alive

yes

[silver vine]

Yes

[sterile remnant]

but still

ey

ye

like 50

[silver vine]

Late forties

[sterile remnant]

or late forties

neighbor is 80... like wow

and he's still a creep

[silver vine]

I mean

Guest is prob controlling him

[sterile remnant]

wha

wha

WHAT

your a liar

[silver vine]

Wha

[sterile remnant]

Guest is neighbor

[silver vine]

Yes

[sterile remnant]

how can guest controll him

[silver vine]

We literally see guest choke Ted in GN2

[sterile remnant]

yes but

ik

[silver vine]

So ppl got a theory that guest is a being who possesses ppl

[sterile remnant]

but at the end he was the guest

[sterile remnant]

ok starting to make sense

so when does GN2 take place

[silver vine]

Idk

GN2 has cell phones

So prob in the 20s

[sterile remnant]

i think before reset day

[silver vine]

Ye

Prob

[sterile remnant]

ye

or in 1934

(joke)

[silver vine]

Hey you coming to SN

[sterile remnant]

what

[silver vine]

I'm going crazy doing this mith event

Can you help me?

[sterile remnant]

umm can't play rn

sorry

[silver vine]

Np

[sterile remnant]

I'm sure other people would help

[silver vine]

Ye

I've been trying to do this for days

[sterile remnant]

I'm not gonna do it... I just play the game

and I can't

go to Sn chat

and ask

[silver vine]

I already asked

I've been doing this for days

[sterile remnant]

oh I see you did

[silver vine]

And I've always failed

[sterile remnant]

i've seen tutorials and it's HARD

[toxic mist]

Anyone know what the book after reset day is gonna be?

[sterile remnant]

start over day

lol

[torpid sinew]

:shrug:

We don’t even know if Reset Day will have a sequel

[covert forge]

[toxic mist]

It ended on a cliffhanger tho

||Pipers mother was kidnapped by the guest||

[torpid sinew]

I know

But

[toxic mist]

There HAS to be another book

It would tear a giant hole in the story if there wasn’t

[gray dome]

Thing is no new book is on any book listing site

So

[toxic mist]

Yeah I know

Hn book 8 is non existent

[gray dome]

Its only the current 10 9

[toxic mist]

Well besides the notebook and the comics

[gray dome]

Yeah

[toxic mist]

I forgot there is no spoiler channel

But I guess those are important for the lore

[sterile remnant]

didn't they have it before

[toxic mist]

They did

[gray dome]

Wait what notebook
:troll:

God

[toxic mist]

Anyways who all read the comic

[gray dome]

Thanks mobile

Emojis don't work and I can't find an emoji facing the right way

[gray dome]

Yes but it was never brought back

[sterile remnant]

now we have to add spoiler tags.. it's not bad or anything but a spoiler channel would be easier

[silver vine]

Why 9?

Wheres guidebook

[tribal talon]

guidebook is wonky

[toxic mist]

||because of the flood, all the buildings are dilapidated and I bet the storms are all caused by the meteostation instead of the one from the comic||

[tribal talon]

but it does count

[toxic mist]

||there are multiple weather stations and the one from bad blood might’ve been the one from the comic as shown in the cover of the book||

||the weather station in the comic had the same antenna set as the one in bad blood||

||reset day also might be around the time where Nicky is signed back into raven brooks or maybe after all 3 books in that “series” because the neighbors house is burnt down||

||I severely doubt enzo signed in the raven man because he is confirmed to be a hallucination by Ted in the newest comic||

again I’m putting all these in spoiler tags because these are MASSIVE spoilers

I am just sharing my theory for the time being

[sterile remnant]

good thing I read all the books

[toxic mist]

Nice!

[copper wave]

incorrect

[copper wave]

also not confirmed

[sterile remnant]

u were incorrect 😱

[copper wave]

and that isnt confirmed aswell

idk where you got this info from

[toxic mist]

||so you still think the one in bad blood is mayak||

[copper wave]

likely in the books mayak has a tower on top unlike the games mayak

[toxic mist]

||so they call the weather station mayak in the books?||

||im talking g about the one that looks like luigis mansion||

[copper wave]

no, we call it that because nikita calls it that

[toxic mist]

||in the comic||

with the antenna on top

[copper wave]

its just "weather station" in the actual story

[broken merlin]

The fact that everything in act 3 of hello neighbor and secret neighbor is all just a dream in the end, sounds like lazy writing.

[copper wave]

act 3 is not a dream

[sterile remnant]

oh hey u mentioned luigi's mansion (Hn + LM confirmed)

[toxic mist]

||I know that’s why I think there are multiple weather stations||

[copper wave]

its a representation of nickys mental battle with his PTSD in his mind

[broken merlin]

Yeah but none of it really happened, the shadow thing isn't even a real monster.

[sterile remnant]

why mustchless

[toxic mist]

||you do know mayak was never in hn1 because he doesn’t know about it right||

[broken merlin]

Just a fear that Nicky has.

[toxic mist]

||aaron never told him about the fps or anything else||

[broken merlin]

And it really took me out of the whole experience because nothing in act 3 or secret neighbor actually happened in the real world.

[toxic mist]

oh and I haven’t even started talking about the ||luck gem thingy that the fps use to change the town||

||fps = forest protector society||

[broken merlin]

And now it makes me begin to question what's even real or not.

[toxic mist]

A lot of hn1 wasn’t real

Act 1 was

So your saying it’s not

[silver vine]

There is only one weather station. The one seen in GN2 is just a different design

[broken merlin]

Like so much was revealed to be a dream in the end, for all we know everything in the hello neighbor universe was all just some silly nightmare a guy had and the neighbor doesn't exist lol.

[toxic mist]

None of hn1 is real then

[silver vine]

And if there were multiple weather stations, we know that the one visited by Aaron was mayak

[toxic mist]

How do you explain the antenna on the cover of bad blood then

[silver vine]

As SN says mayak was built by neighbor's parents

[toxic mist]

I know and mayak was boarded up for decades

[silver vine]

Reset day is 2021.

[toxic mist]

I would severely doubt Ike would be hanging around there in the first place before he ||perished||

[silver vine]

He isnt. Guest appears even in Regina's dream

[broken merlin]

Imagine if everything, literally everything in hello neighbor including the second game, was all just a dream. (Probably not, but, when you make everything just some silly dream in the end, might as well do it more lol)

[silver vine]

Tes

Ad the one in BB was built by Ted's parents

And SN confirms that mayak was built by Ted's parents

[toxic mist]

So it looks like mayak has multiple forms now

[broken merlin]

Yeah guess you call it lazy writing, All just a dream cliche

[gray dome]

What notebook?

[silver vine]

There isnt tho

There is only one

Which is built by Ted's parents

[toxic mist]

So mayak has multiple forms because everything in this god damn universe is subjective?

[silver vine]

The one Aaron visits is built by Ted's parents. SN confirms that mayak was built by Ted's parents

[toxic mist]

Then what about the one from the comic

[silver vine]

The book design of mayak us just different from the ones in games

[toxic mist]

The one that looks like luigis mansion

[silver vine]

Just like how Nicky's and Ted's house are

[toxic mist]

So ur saying mayak comes in many forms then

Welp….. looks like everything in this god damn universe is subjective then

[silver vine]

It is

Mayak

[toxic mist]

||I gotta reread all ofAaron’s stories protainting to the FPs and the luck gem thingy||

[silver vine]

As SN confirms Mayak was built by Ted's parents

[opal jackal]

True

Mayak is in fact mayak

[toxic mist]

Aaron and mya going into the woods at night to explore mayak colorized

[silver vine]

We know the weather Aaron visits in book 4 is mayak

[toxic mist]

And the one in the comic is also mayak

And it was destroyed

[sterile remnant]

oh hey it's Neighbor Mansion

[toxic mist]

So mayak is destroyed!!!!!

[opal jackal]

neighbor's mansion

[toxic mist]

Mayak won’t be in hn2

It is confirmed

[sterile remnant]

😀

[silver vine]

Could be

Wdk

But we do know that the weather station Aaron visits is mayak

[toxic mist]

So the one that was boarded up for decades as well

[silver vine]

Who knows

[toxic mist]

And then there are like tunnels and stuff which is totally ripping off a series of unfortunate events

[silver vine]

Wdk how many weather stations are there in RB

Possibly only one

[toxic mist]

Bruh you literally just said there are one

[silver vine]

Yes

[toxic mist]

But of course I think there are 2

[silver vine]

W

But as I said

[toxic mist]

Because I confuse people for a living

[silver vine]

The one from GN2 can be a different weather staions

But the one from books 4-6 is Mayak

[toxic mist]

Wait what’s gn2

[silver vine]

Graphic Novel 2

[toxic mist]

Oh

[toxic mist]

Thats what i think too

[silver vine]

?

Wdym

Got it

[toxic mist]

There is no way that a luigis mansion looking building like the one in the comic could look like mayak

[silver vine]

But there are possibilites of it being mayak

[toxic mist]

Unless there is a multiverse

Like the mcu

[silver vine]

As now its confirmed that the weather from books 4-6 is mayak

And it had no mentions of an eyeball radar

[toxic mist]

That’s kinda contradicting with what you just said but ok

[gray dome]

i mean

u can always retcon its design

[sterile remnant]

Mayak is weird

[gray dome]

and/or u can also use timelines as an excuse

[toxic mist]

Mayak is wAccCkYy

[toxic mist]

nikita you fool

[silver vine]

SN literally confirmed that the weather station from book 4-6 is mayak

[mystic bramble]

i doubt theres multiple weather stations that can all cause unnatural things

[silver vine]

Me too

[toxic mist]

They actually can because Ted literally explained how the weather machine worked in RBD

[silver vine]

Likeable, why are you arguing that the weather station that Aaron visited isnt mayak

Even though SN literally confirmed it is

[toxic mist]

Wait how

[mystic bramble]

hes been going there since he was a child why wouldnt he know

[mystic bramble]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/872320493804486696/877973432321593484/unknown.png

[opal jackal]

Mayak is everything

[toxic mist]

Never says Aaron travelled to it

[gray dome]

also why are we still using spoiler tags sometimes....?

[toxic mist]

Only said it existed

[mystic bramble]

aaron finds roger and adelle's work in it

[mystic bramble]

and pictures of them

[gray dome]

the book came out 17 days ago

[opal jackal]

Mayak explains

[silver vine]

Gavin is really fast

[gray dome]

theres no need for spoiler tags

ooc be like

[sterile remnant]

what

[gray dome]

yucky

old build

broken uvs

well

not broken

bad uvs

[silver vine]

I got old pic

[mystic bramble]

aaron also goes to the weather station and its stated multiple times its roger's and adelle's

[silver vine]

Yes

[toxic mist]

well the new build looks like there is snow on top of it

[opal jackal]

Mayak is love

[silver vine]

He even finds wedding pic of Adelle and Roger

[gray dome]

yeha

[toxic mist]

alright

[gray dome]

thats what its supposed to be

snow

[silver vine]

Cuz it is a snowglobe

[gray dome]

i think

well

yeah

that too

[toxic mist]

🧠

[mystic bramble]

[gray dome]

okay

can we settle this

[silver vine]

Snow literally falls from it when you shake it

[gray dome]

book 4-6/gn2 weather station = mayak

[mystic bramble]

theres one weather station

[silver vine]

Books 4-6 is confirmed to be mayak

Not sure about GN2 weather station tho

[toxic mist]

Got it

What does gn2 stand for again

[mystic bramble]

graphic novel 2

RBD

[toxic mist]

Yeah

Ok I get that book 4 thru 6 is kayak but I still think RBD is a different one especially because it gets destroyed

[mystic bramble]

it isnt destroyed

a few panels after we see firefighters taking care of it

and its still intact

[toxic mist]

The weather machine is tho

And it’s all flooded

[toxic mist]

Of course there are putting out the fire but that doesn’t mean it’s saved and fully functional again

[mystic bramble]

i mean do we really know if it will be fully functional in hn2

[silver vine]

It was never functional tbh

[toxic mist]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[silver vine]

It was abandoned decades ago

And GN2 is prob during HN2

[toxic mist]

I hope hn2 fills a buncha gaps in the storyline

[silver vine]

As, we cell phones in GN2

[toxic mist]

Gn2 literally confirms it leads right up to hn2

The back of the book

[silver vine]

How are there cell phones in GN2?

[toxic mist]

Because it in the future

[mystic bramble]

gn2 isnt before all of hn2

[silver vine]

Same thing it says to RD

[mystic bramble]

but before some of hn2

[toxic mist]

Yes

[mystic bramble]

because some parts of hn2 are directly after act 2

[silver vine]

Exactly

thats what I meant by during

[toxic mist]

So ur saying that act 3 is after the flood and the neighbors house is destroyed

[mystic bramble]

pretty much

[silver vine]

Ye

[gray dome]

uh

yes

[mystic bramble]

i mean the town doesnt look flooded to me

or abandoned

theres multiple pizza trucks and dudes on bikes

in act 3

[toxic mist]

It is more flooded in hn2 than hn1

[mystic bramble]

i can tell

[toxic mist]

Even in the alphas of hn2 we can tell things are dilapidated

And they will be in the full game too

[mystic bramble]

hn2 is between act 2 and 3, both before and after the flood it seems like

[silver vine]

Yes

It begins right after act 2

Then proceeds with the flood

[toxic mist]

The end of act 3 where Nicky wakes up is in the far future

[mystic bramble]

maybe we'll see quentin's perspective during the flood

[silver vine]

Yes

Den part

[toxic mist]

Oh god….

[opal jackal]

What about Beatrix

[mystic bramble]

no

den is different

ROTM is about tornadoes

[silver vine]

W H Y

[mystic bramble]

not floods

[silver vine]

Tornadoes can happen on a flood

[mystic bramble]

t

[toxic mist]

What if ROTM is the next hn book

it seems sorta fitting actually

[mystic bramble]

if there will be a next hn book

[gray dome]

nah

doubt

place ur bets rn that there wont be

[mystic bramble]

rotm is saved for hn2

[gray dome]

hold on

let me check

[silver vine]

I both want a new book and I dont want a new book

[toxic mist]

First scenes of ratatouille flashbacks where he gets flooded into the sewer

[mystic bramble]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/872320493804486696/877986389185167360/uoszj989cja.gif

there wont be a book before hn2

if there was it would have already been announced

[silver vine]

I cant understand

[mystic bramble]

we knew about book 6 before book 4 even released lol

or before book 5

i forgot

[gray dome]

yeah

that was it

book 6 before book 4 was out

[toxic mist]

Kbruh

[gray dome]

and we've known abt reset day for uhhh

a year

over a yr at that

ever since late july 2020

[toxic mist]

After all of this I still think there is or were 2 weather stations lmao

But I get the one Aaron explored was the kayak

[silver vine]

Ahh yes

Kayak

My fav weather station

Wait

The one with the eye is called mayak-1

Then is the one in GN2

Mayak-2?

[opal jackal]

KayakM

[toxic mist]

Kayak

Aaron really said lemmie drive da boat

[silver vine]

Mayak-2

[torpid sinew]

Aaron kills Mya by drowning her under a boat (1995 colorized)

[silver vine]

I still think there is only one weather station tbh

One built by Adelle and Roger Peterson

Mayak-1

[silver vine]

What's ooc?

[gray dome]

LOL

[opal jackal]

Out of context i think

[versed yacht]

it can either mean out of character or out of context

[broken merlin]

This games lore is more confusing than fnaf.

Especially since they made a lot of it just a dream, I don't even know what's real anymore.

[tribal talon]

most of it is real

[silver vine]

nothing ever was a dream

Damn it

Nikita himself said nothing in HN was a dream

I cant seem to understand why ppl still call it as a dream

[broken merlin]

Then why does act 3 feel like a dream? Ok this is to much for me.

[silver vine]

It's something called as "self therapy"

It never was a dream

Neither is SN

[opal jackal]

SN is imagination

[broken merlin]

Self therapy, imagination, still isn't exactly real though.

So yeah, it's still kind of annoying.

[opal jackal]

Yeah

[broken merlin]

It was all just a dream cliche

Lol

[opal jackal]

There are a lot of inconsistencies on HN

[broken merlin]

I know, it really ruined it for me.

Especially since the shadow thing wasn't real either.

[silver vine]

Guys

I just remembered

We did see nebor standing below a relay tower in the old HN2 teaser

So idk

It's either a second weather station

Or a relay tower next to mayak

[mystic bramble]

pretty sure that wasnt even for any hn games

it was just a neighbor render in a not for broadcast screenshot or something

[toxic mist]

Act 3 is a

[strange lance]

Act 3 is a...cheater?

Act 3 is a...nightmare?

[sterile remnant]

dream

[silver vine]

Neighbor wasn standing there

[broken merlin]

🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣

[mystic bramble]

do not tell ben shapiro, he will send you this

[torpid sinew]

.

Distorted Memory is literally a dream

Or a nightmare, to be specific

Some dreams are basically flashbacks

[torpid sinew]

Yeah

Act 2 is one of those weird flashback dreams

[tribal talon]

its not a dream its a dream

how can you tell me you dont know the diffrence between a dream and dream

Im so offended

[gray dome]

No not really

[toxic mist]

HGP is not

[torpid sinew]

B-but dee Nikki Raw woahke up!

[wicked heath]

his name is Neekee War!! How could u say his name wrong

[toxic mist]

His name is niki raw

[torpid sinew]

No it’s Neko Law

[tribal talon]

wrong server

lol

[wicked heath]

wat

[tribal talon]

I posted a half life meme here accidently

meant to send it to a friend

[wicked heath]

h

[gleaming violet]

act 3 was a cheater this whole time?

[opal jackal]

Yes

[sterile remnant]

omg

confirmed act 3 cheated

[opal jackal]

act 3 EXPOsed

[agile hare]

That smile is the most passive aggressive thing I've seen in all my life, I need help

🙂

[tribal talon]

🙃

you were saying?

[dire otter]

@young kayak scam

[gleaming violet]

shut

[tribal talon]

must be banned

[torpid sinew]

@copper wave bot

[opal jackal]

Theodor master peterso

[silver vine]

Teaserpon

[opal jackal]

Ciny Trow

[silver vine]

Wrong

Crow is actually called as Rawk in wayron croobian

[opal jackal]

Tiny Rawk

[wicked heath]

teemee rawk

[silver vine]

Nity Rawk

[torpid sinew]

Niki wah

[chrome palm]

||Is the purple piece thing at the end of gn 2 a piece of the luck device?||

[silver vine]

Its nebors sweater

[chrome palm]

U sure?

And also

||when the guest drowns Mr.Peterson, that’s symbolic right? Like the bad part of Peterson “killed” the good part of him? Bc when the guest comes out from the water he takes the mask off and it’s Peterson.||

[silver vine]

Wdk

[silver vine]

Guest was a very well known urban legend in RB for a very long time

So, we dont really know whether he is neighbor's bad side or not

And, guest appeared in Regina's (the protagonist of RBD) dream

Also in that same dream, there are a lot of stuff belonging to nebor

[strange lance]

Guest walking on water make sense

Now

[silver vine]

And she doesn't even know about nebor

[torpid sinew]

Guest is Jesus

[hazy igloo]

And what's ur theory about hats??

Ok

[torpid sinew]

in the hat

[toxic mist]

anyone who wants this

[versed yacht]

😳

[torpid sinew]

Would explain why they know about Nicky’s room

And it would also explain the weird layout change

The kids got high or something

[versed yacht]

This is actually a really cool theory

[strange lance]

I think they added that stuff for when the introduced the LE.

But still possible theory. A really good one

[versed yacht]

Also, another thing

Are the trophies canon?

They seem to be, at least according to the Rocket one

But if they are that means that they actually tried to catch MiH, and he lost his hat when they did

[torpid sinew]

Kids attempted to murder MitH for candy

[versed yacht]

😳

[tribal talon]

No they attempted to murder man in hat for candy and whoppers

how dare you forget whoppers

you monster

[torpid sinew]

Hamborger chesburgeat Beeg Mac Whopper ?

[silver vine]

Wouldnt explain the crime scene tapes tho

[silver vine]

Yes

Mayak trophy just confirms that the weather station from the books is mayak

[gleaming violet]

no

[shut kite]

scam

[tribal talon]

If I remember correctly, the books also confirm Nicky Roth is the kid in Hello Neighbor 1

[gleaming violet]

wait what!

[silver vine]

Wdym no?

[gleaming violet]

response to bot

[silver vine]

bot: yes

[round geode]

if hn2 is after act 1 and before act 2 quentin see the SN kids and the kids see the police intervention at the blue house

and it explain the police tape

cool

[sterile remnant]

nice now just read it when it comes and hope u don't die trying to understand it

[limpid grove]

where did you find this ???

[gleaming violet]

the E3 trailer...

where else did you think it came from?

[limpid grove]

oh yes

[limpid grove]

idk

[cunning pine]

secret neighbor giveway btw

[tribal talon]

okay straight up what is the lore in the older alphas

or are they non canonical

[torpid sinew]

Prototype-Alpha 2 was a coma

Alpha 3/4-Beta 3 was Father Son

[tribal talon]

o

k

[torpid sinew]

What

I answered your question

[tribal talon]

...

[torpid sinew]

What do you need.

[tribal talon]

your so wrong, we play as ronald mcdonald

[tribal talon]

oh good god hurry get the guns one got through

[tribal talon]

??

[knotty stirrup]

I think chicken Roth has a connection with Nicky Roth.

[solemn tusk]

Yeah the whole point is that we play as Ronald McDonald and we have to try to break into McDonalds to try and fix the ice cream machine

[tribal talon]

thank you

chat got purged

it's what happens when the chat goes off topic

[gleaming violet]

not here

[sterile remnant]

um

[gleaming violet]

did you read the name of the channel

[torpid sinew]

@young kayak possible scammer

[young kayak]

Isn't a scammer

They use the button in iOS

And it send this to destination they choose

[torpid sinew]

Oh

[tribal talon]

this aged well @shadow summit

lol

[shadow summit]

true ig

pretty sure neighbor was guest but isnt anymore

[tribal talon]

i mean, I'm open to interpretation

I like both theories

The reason I think he's dead if he's not guest is because I'm theorizing he drowned

epic autocorrect fail

we know this is after the games because of the smartphones

so it probably doesn't conflict with the timeline

[torpid sinew]

So basically

HN1, HN2 he’s alive

Guest kills him

Nicky epiclly has PTSD in Act 3

Reset Day

[copper wave]

Please take a look Reset day and GN2 is before HN2 club...
Who wants to join...

[wicked heath]

:/

[tribal talon]

tbf, act 3 mostly isn't real

[torpid sinew]

Yeah

I’m mostly talking about the opening

[tribal talon]

also if reset day and gn2 is before HN2, then wth happened to the tech

either that or Quentin is poor as hell

[torpid sinew]

AKA the apartment and rusty Raven Brooks

[tribal talon]

the neighbor in the apartment was before they finalized the story

they probably just never took him out

[torpid sinew]

You mean on the building?

[tribal talon]

Just you'd think HN2 was early 2000s

yes on the building

HN2 is same timepoint as HN1, probably 2000s if there's more

[toxic mist]

Reset day is after hn2 or before it

[copper wave]

well, what do you think

[toxic mist]

I fail to believe that mr Peterson’s house is burnt down in hn2

For starters, it’s not

[copper wave]

yeah

[toxic mist]

Well reset day is literally all about the whole town being in a time loop and it would make like zero sense if Nicky went back to raven brooks and was in a time loop

They only are doing it to try and find enzo

[shrewd dove]

Hn2 takes place only when Nicky is a teenager so ye

[copper wave]

so youre saying that Nicky enters after the time loop is broken somehow

[toxic mist]

Yes

After all 3 books aka 9

7-8 and 9

I still think there will be more

After reset day

And the 8th or 9th book is where teds house is gone

Because on RD his house is still there

of course if enzo signed Nicky in that would mean it’s before reset day which would make no sense because teds house is still standing

and remember enzo signed in the uninvited guest god knows how long before piper and family arrived

[copper wave]

well, what im thinking is more important is which comes first, GN2, or Reset Day, the answer to this still has some wiggle room

[toxic mist]

gn2 is fight before hn2

it even says so on the back of the book

and it is right after a massive flood which is probably why houses are dilapidated and the ground is wet

[copper wave]

i dont have the physical book so idk what that says

[toxic mist]

Found it

[torpid sinew]

But it hasn’t released

[copper wave]

oh, it doesnt say before or after

[toxic mist]

Yes but it is right before the weather machine is destroyed in the end

And if it was in hn2 there would be a flood or rain going on

[tribal talon]

It's just odd how tech seems backwards in HN2

[toxic mist]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[tribal talon]

or alternatively, now this is a REALLY wild concept, the neighbor in HN2 is the guest. even the normal one

[gray dome]

he is

[toxic mist]

He is a really wacky hallucination of him

[gray dome]

but alright

[tribal talon]

i dont mean the neighbor is the guest as in

hes dressing as guest

[toxic mist]

The neighbor is the guest but not quite

[tribal talon]

I mean like if the guest shapeshifts

[toxic mist]

It’s really weird how he changes

[tribal talon]

then it's entirely possible he can take the neighbors face

and clothes

he probably kept the guest outfit to invoke fear

[toxic mist]

The best way to describe it is where the guest is like the neighbors greedy soul and it like takes him over or something

[tribal talon]

because he's the raven man

[toxic mist]

At random times

[tribal talon]

That's a theory mouseflash had

[toxic mist]

Sick

[tribal talon]

that guest is an embodiment of his evil side

but racc disagrees

[toxic mist]

You’ve read the book right

[tribal talon]

yes

[toxic mist]

Good

So no spoilers

[silver vine]

He still is the guest

Read the books

[tribal talon]

racc is asking how the guest and the neighbor would be seen together so fast

[toxic mist]

I still think there will be more books after reset day

[gray dome]

Better hurry

[toxic mist]

It left on a massive cliffhanger anyway

[tribal talon]

you can spoil anyway

[gray dome]

We don't need tags anymore

[tribal talon]

it's been more than 2 weeks

[silver vine]

Nah

[tribal talon]

which is the generally accepted spoiler timeframe

[gray dome]

Sure

[silver vine]

Reset day takes place in 2021

[tribal talon]

no..?

[silver vine]

And HN2 atleast begins right after act 2

[tribal talon]

it's 2017 isn't it

[toxic mist]

Hn2 is probably after act 2 but before act 3

Act 3 is in the far future

Especially because Nicky is probably in his thirties or something

[shadow summit]

did i just cause an arguement

[toxic mist]

I don’t really know

[gray dome]

Gn2 > hn2 > book 7 > act 3
I think?

[toxic mist]

No

[tribal talon]

yes

i agree with this

[silver vine]

I think that GN2 comes before reset day

[toxic mist]

Me too

[tribal talon]

though i do think it's entirely possible the neighbor died when he fought guest

and in HN2 we're seeing a fakeneighbor (see what i did there)

[silver vine]

But it isnt tho

[toxic mist]

Think of the neighbor and guest like the green goblin

[silver vine]

Ppl have cell phones in GN2

[toxic mist]

It’s his messed up evil side

[tribal talon]

the raimi one?

[toxic mist]

Cause he’s unhinged

No from spider man

[silver vine]

And HN2 begins right after Nicky's escape

[tribal talon]

Oh so aaron is the guest because new goblin

:troll:

[toxic mist]

[toxic mist]

I agree with this but I still think when Nicky gets evicted it is after reset day or even book 8

[silver vine]

Yes

Workers say it's 25 year old concrete

And the park was paved over by concrete in 1996 in the books

Meaning, its 25 years after act 1

Meaning, it takes place un 2021

[gray dome]

Duh

Also there's no book 8

[toxic mist]

There has to be

There must be

[silver vine]

GN2 is prob between HN2

[gray dome]

nah

[gray dome]

???

[silver vine]

Ppl have cell phones in GN2

[gray dome]

And

[toxic mist]

what about pipers mom and the keys with the luck machine fragments and the fps???

[gray dome]

Hn2

[toxic mist]

so many unanswered questions

[silver vine]

According to my knowledge cell phones weren't there in the 90s

[gray dome]

Hn2

[silver vine]

And HN2 atleast begins right after act 2

[gray dome]

Its hn
What do u expect

[toxic mist]

to 180 the topic, how do you think the luck machine was broken

Someone had to have broken it

[silver vine]

Cell phones weren't mentioned in the first 6 books

[gray dome]

aaaand

[silver vine]

Cell phones didnt exist in HN in 90s

[tribal talon]

What about the rechargable vintage ones?

[torpid sinew]

These?

[tribal talon]

No

The ones from 1983?

[silver vine]

It's in neighbor's house in HN1

[tribal talon]

Does this look similar?

[torpid sinew]

Oh

[silver vine]

Its literally in the neighbour's house in HN1

[toxic mist]

Oh yeah it is

[tribal talon]

I know

[toxic mist]

I never though about it that way before

[silver vine]

GN2 is prob during HN2

[wicked heath]

oh god

its white Peterson phone

we are gonna die

[tribal talon]

xD

[opal jackal]

I think that GN2 is before HN2

[silver vine]

Nah

There are cell phones in GN2

And cell phones only exist in 20s

We know that HN2 atleast begins right after act 2

Meaning , 1997

According to my knowledge, cell phones didnt exist in 1997

[tribal talon]

smartphones