#lore-discussion
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what
what
I found a picture of someone shadowed out wearing a hat in reginas room on the birthday scene in the second graphic novel
man in hat?
what
in graphic novel 2
I know that 
look at the back of the wall when regina hugs flan (birthday scene)
theres a picture of someone wearing a hat
send pic i cbb to check
I dont have the digital version
do physical then
how can u not take a pic if ur typing in this chat
what?
dude I can take SCREENSHOTS
but not pictures from the real world
you have the book right?
do you know what camera is
I have a laptop and I really dont wanna try to shove my book infront of my webcam and attempt to get a perfect shot
plus id rather not show my house to people
and I dont have a phone either
aaa

my old tablet quit charging too
otherwise id consider doing it that way
but its tore up
didnt both of you have the comic?
Can you just tell what is the page
wait why
its the birthday scene when the camera is in regines room and is seen cuddling flan
I think they do at least
Looked into it, it's there but I doubt it's MiH
Most likely just a coincidence considering how the hat looks different than MiH's
could be
I just find it strange that its there
perhaps regina knows someone related to man in hat or knows who IS the man in hat
but hey who knows
I might reread the first comic again
even though I feel like theres not much lore there
i have an actual question about something (spoilers for graphic novel)
||I just want to know, before The Guest drowns theodore, what does the guest's physical form actually look like? Is it just like what we see in HG or is it completely different?||
hg
Hello Guest
So is the lore not even based on him being involved in Satan anymore
THE hello guest
That hasn't been part of the story since like, possibly alpha 2
We haven't seen any bible references since at least
Christianity as a whole has basically been removed
Aside from the church and Luanne saying “Oh my god” in Book 1 or 2
wtf she said oh my god (christianity)
Oh that’s cool I’ll definitely look into all this new stuff. Since I was a huge fan since the alps versions of the original game.
Read the books
You'll get more info from them than you will anything else
Reset day is basically the bible for us HN fans
Yeah.
lma
😬 not really
supposedly she did
kidnapped by the guest
Huh.The new trilogy must tie into HN2 backstory.
Not backstory
Frontstory
HN2 is years before RD
Oh...
we dont know that 100%
ig
yes
Idk
Book is kinda fastpaced
Nikita said Hn2 is only in the kid Nicky part of his life. Adult nicky is gonna be in another game presumably.
that doesnt confirm anything
and he didnt say that actually
Then something must've happened in HN2 that makes the timeloop start happening.
He didnt say part of the game at all
No he said that Hn2 is more in the kid nicky time, that’s pretty much what he said I am not gonna go back lol.
but wasn't nicky still in his basement or does HN2 take place after act2
I believe it could actually be after the loop started, so after graphic novel 2 and reset day
what if theyjust wrap RD and GN2 as a fake reality and that the Guest isn't real just like the Thing.
all the alphas so far have been recreations of crime scenes (or im led to believe), so whos to day the first part of the game isnt also a fabrication? someone putting the town in loop during a recreation of the Neighbor going missing
Nicky is a kid 
they really need to start detailing the plot instead of just placing action here and there ngl.
its confusing me alot.
They leave missing posters everywhere 20 years after the child went missing lol
that's because they never found nicky
yea but that was after the investigation
we already know there is time travel and the deletion of memories in this universe, whos to say that this isnt the same 1996 that we see in HN1 or books 1-3
and we still haven't solved the wacky weather
The time travel theory is this 👌 close from being true.
how?
whos to say its not him just brainwashing people into believing time is resetting
if so he can create any time period he wants
Waittt
thats true
GH2 kind of proves it. Mr. Peterson even said he used to want to change the past.
actually
and trap anyone inside using the barriers around raven brooks
that kind of makes sense
Because of the weather in reset day trololol
then he has the entirety of the real raven brooks (non-loop) to build the massive machine seen in ROTM
underneath the town there is massive heat when dug up by the construction workers, near where mayak is
cause he is targetting Jesse Jordy Maritza Piper Delia Enzo the mother,and that one guy
hes probably not altering their memories
he could be powering a Sterling Engine to cool down the town to simulate fall weather
cause time is still continuing
They smelled burning that‘s all. They smelled burning whenever the guest was around.
we already know the machine in GN2 does the same thong
read the prologue
underneath the park, where the observatory is, there is huge heaps of hear under the surface
I did, I am saying it isn’t just there, it’s whenever the Guest is around.
whos to say there isnt the weather control machine down there now
thats probably what the "seismic activity" is!
Possibly, but the fact of it being wrong is equally possible.
the Guest takes your memories that you forgot right? if you dont have the rings (or someone to remind you), he can take them away
yup
Cause they keep saying that all over the construction sight
thats why the mom wishes the main characters happy reset day
they wont forget, since they dont have the rings
Not memories, he takes things.
did you read GN2?
he does take your memories
ye lol
is thomas dead though
who?
we dont know that
he might just have been taken over by the guest, or killed and had his body taken
No, a peice of his sweater was there at the end. Both peterson’s are still alive.
right
i think Aaron's memories have been altered as well
I think GH2 takes place before reset day.
Cause he didn't say anything to Nicky about the fortune devices
its probably to build the windmill from ROTM but then what...
Idk, don’t think he really has a clear one, he’s like grasping at straws to figure out what to do with himself, that’s what it seems like.
From what I can tell, he just wants his family back, or to make others feel like he does.
well he wanted Ted to build the machine in mayak to start the flood, and that was just a "test" for something bigger
and when ted was about to shut off the machine he improvised and took over his body
he didnt have a use for ted after that anyways since the machine was finished
?
Ted and the Guest had the same motive, but Regina made Ted change his mind
And the Guest likely talked to Ted through the crow he had throughout the whole novel
Guest didn’t take over his body. The Peterson that tried to kill them was probably not the same Peterson who tried to stop the machine.
ye trololol
Why would he change his views like that randomly. The Guest couldn’t take over his body, that doesn’t really make much sense.
who changed what views
hes talking about the two teds
Regina convinced him to not destroy the town, he decided to do the good thing, and then the Guest took over Ted because he wasnt going through with the plan
and then when Guest Ted comes out of the water hes back to the mindset before Regina convinced him otherwise
He was gonna stop the machine, then he just decides not to, plus the fact he magically puts on the guest costume.
thats why i think the guest took him over/merged with him almost
so that it can have control
The Guest drowned him, and then at the end you see parts of his sweater hanging in the wind, how could that happen, if the Guest possesed him.
So is that why Guest has a leg twitch in the alphas?
If he possessed him, he would have control of his mind/body, but he couldn’t magically have the guest costume with him on. Peterson’s cloths just magically disapear and reapear?
No cause he is Peterson
Ted showers with his clothes on, so……
lol
And the books show the family wearing the same exact clothes for multiple years
The way I see it (this is at least my theory) is that while he can possess people, he still keeps his own body
That doesn’t count lol
from a lore perspective
There's not really any evidence supporting my theory about that but it kinda works
But what is the guest? Just a peice of clothing???
I think it's like an entity of some sorts. Like, it's a ghost, which explains the fact he's able to just fly through the wall. He uses people's emotions to gain control of them and stuff.
Basically he doesn't have a physical body until he finds a host
it does
He wears a sweater and a wooden mask.
lol
There was nothing stopping Carly from giving them different clothing
Plus why would the Guest have the same motives as Mr. Peterson.
That's what's been itching me with the theory
Same with this
Maybe the Guest suit is like SCP 035. When you put it on it gains possession of your body. It can also mess with your mind and stuff
I am more on the time travel theory for now.
But anyways maybe Hn2 will prove more stuff idk
The suit in the attic......
Aaron and Mya wear different clothes
I just finished reading the new book and.. is the neighbor the crow or not?
I think is no because in the New final the neighbor is caught and the crow is Not caught
His name is the Guest
But is a crow
But crow is short then guest
But his name is the Guest
At least you know who they're talking about.
Wether you call him the guest, the neighbor, the crow or... Corey- as long as you know who people are talking about it's fine.
Wait Corey
Apparently some people call him Corey lol
I don't mind what people call him it's just a bit weird to me lol
But people have their ways
dakblake originally called him corey the crow
I thought it was Corey the Crow Guy
aalllllrrrrighhhht time to read all this crap
I have to agree with dizzy in a sense. I feel like the guest is both ted and is not ted. I really dont think ted could change his clothes that fast. nor survive that blast at the end of GN2
It seems like the guest assumes the face of ted
and although it is a dream thingy
the guest pretends to be pris
at one point
and oh god im spoiling everything
anyways
yes I do feel like the guest is its own entity
probably coming from all the hatred and such that happened in raven brooks
which is why it assumes the face of theodore
as he is often blamed for everything that happened at the golden apple
and once nicky escaped he was guilty of kidnapping kids
as to which people started vandlizing his house and such
then sooner or later it was burnt down
and I feel like the guest was born from all that hatred
and took the form of theodore
its possible the real theodore is not even in raven brooks
who knows
All that could be true
In a way, neighbor is the geust
In a way, he isnt
Crow is both neighbor and not neighbor
So what you're saying is the Guest is some sort of spirit that can take over people's bodies in a nutshell?
That's just a theory
It's just a theory
Yeye okay
Not a big fan of that theory ngl
its all a story
a game story
You were one of the main people who talked about that theory 
That's cuz some of the main main ppl always talk about it
In my personal opinion, it's possible
But I ain't a big fan of the theory
what
yeah I understand that. there is loose evidence
I just feel like peterson wouldnt be able to survive that explosion
the fun house thing
possible
its possible not much hit em
but a explosion that can destroy an entire building?
peterson must have an HEV suit or some crap to survive that
lol
yeah
but books are canon
sorry
again
apoligies
continue
ted is an adult
idk how bones work
but id imagine myas weaker
mhm
Bones get weaker with age
yeah
those things are survivable
im pretty sure being in a exploding building is pretty unsurvivable
True
So either:
1.Ted dies and Guest takes the identity of Ted
2.Ted survives the blast without a scratch somehow
moreso an entity that feeds off of negative emotion and such
yeah
Its safe to assume that regina knew about the guest
so its possible
she hit her head on a box or something and just dreamt about it through normal means
but
the guest changes his face into pris in the dream thing
so its possible the guest was messing with regina
that or it was reginas brain doing some betrayal
and also
if peterson did somehow get out in time
why does he have his argle sweater vest
if he was in the guest costume?
or even a small bit of it
yeah
But he could be alive
yeah
we know ghosts do exist
joe talked to whatever her name was from beyond the grave
at the end of the first comic
but I feel like ted wouldnt be able to do everything he does
cause well
hes dead
lol
it depends on what the guest does in the full game
that we can determine if he is ted or not
will we be able to watch ted put on the costume?
This is why them making the books while the game is still in alpha is a bad idea
They’re now stuck with the story they have now
well we know it IS ted but you get the point
They can’t make any changes without retconning a bunch of stuff.
the guest pretending to be ted theory
yeah
wanna know one thing in HN we will never understand?
What was in the basement
is why children have such strong imaginations that they can enter such realistic play worlds
lol
Children in the Hello Neighbor universe are actually Little Einsteins
I didnt spam thank you
Who pinged me
idk
I feel like Ted may have died due to him looking the same in Reset Day’s cover art
Nevermind
I was going to say there were no visible signs of aging
But there is
75 I think
I love how this is the only time we’ve seen Piper officially drawn
Just a small reflection
lol
There is a pic of Piper inside the book
So
i haven’t read it because i’m a failure
I don't remember that
I do
Show us
shes holding a coat or something
Its a biblical reference
And we do know who the guest is
K
bye
Aaron is Guest confirmed because HN2 takes place in the future
not in the 90's for sure
I don't have proof but.. UM
"There is so much proof" says Aaron Guest
Guys I have spoilers for the HN lore
||Every event that we know of is a part of Theodore's dream||
true
So if that is indeed Aaron, then that means he grew up to look like his father then. interesting.
He cant grow into an adult within a span of days
But hello neighbor 2 takes place years after hello neighbor.
Then why is the house still there
Not to mention Nikita himself said HN2 takes place when Nicky was a child
Nicky and Aaron are the same age
then why do people say Aaron is the guest if he couldn't have grown older in a span of days then?
They're JOKING
Cuz Aaronguest was a popular theory before Nikita said HN2 is in 90s
Also, why did HN2 have to be a prequel/sequel, by this point hello neighbor act 3 is the sequel.
HN2 isnt even a prequel
It's called as a "midquel"
so I guess it shows us what happened to the neighbor after Nicky moved away.
Nah
oh hey it's Steve
He did get locked in the basement so of course he's gonna cal the cops
How did you srsly think that HN2 is after act 3?
wha-
I don't now, I just didn't realize it took place in the 90's
did the neighbor die in the new graphic novel.... he was in a exploding building
Not to mention why should the cops arrive at the neighbor's house 25 years later
Maybe
oh no
Aaron is gonna take the role
Nah
he blew up
He didnt
Just also, why did the house age so fast, I'm not saying it's because this game takes place many years after hello neighbor, but still. the house looks old.
The house doesn't look that old at all
unless he murdered the guest
Did you not see missing paint on the house. it looked a little rusty.
Game Theory
well it's not very logical that it could start to rust in the span of days.
when did the new graphic novel take place
We dont know
Nah
Tbf we dont know
There are cellphones in GN2
it does
it does
iPhones
so after like 2006?
Idk
what is gn2?
Graphic Novel 2
The Raven Brooks Disaster
Remember when we thought that Aaron is the guest and he locked up his dad
we never thought that
some people did because they refused to accept HG was canon but we were always sure of NeighborGuest
?????
spying on a journalist
mysterious silhouette in the amusement park
eyewitness of ___ horror
___ weapon
not so simple with the ___
The horrid "placeholder" stock background trees...
I wish EGS had changed the trees faster so Hologryph wouldn't have used them.
is that PAM in the car?
doubt it but it looks like him
Pre alpha man is real!!!!!?????
Old alphas are canon confirmed
Hello neighbor is taking inspiration from the mcu with all these multiverses
lmao that is @barren stream 's!
SN Devs stole Chip's image (Real)

chip ur popular now!!
Alex reposted my work . It was real popular moment 
i mean this is literally in the game
Yeah . But anyway its funny
so i dont mind .
nice
um
I like the little hints of lore they're giving with these trophies
yep
So basically
Enzo, Maritza, Trinity and Inventor made a model rocket
And maybe Scout and Bagger too
For God’s sake Bro
ñ
ngl I wouldn't even notice what is shown in that pic💀 I don't see the problem?
Aidan is basically HN2’s Gavin
Whining about old stuff
when most of it is perfectly fine
Like
Out of all of the HN2 objects I’ve seen
The only one I hate is the trash can
The Alpha 1.5 one or the AI Trailer to E3 Trailer one
ANDREW
hey here is a werid thought
go on

You’re asking who the Guest is
Well
He could either be Neighbor, ||Or an entity that can posses people with negative emotions||
with the new book’s information, the Guest may be the Thing
Yes he is (Aaron is the Neighbor)
aaron is the father of himself
Andrew
You're an placeholder
See you when HN2 releases
Those trees are kinda annoying, why do they have to use another placeholder god
It's like outdated things in SN
Why are those trees still placeholder
They could like just use the billboard ones
i dont remember alpha 1 having a new art fence or a new art house in the background
LOL
New art Alpha 1
ye who
Fnaf has cool lore
ok but this isn't FNaF
Ya, so? What’s the problem in sayin?
Alpha 1 mod
It's not HN related
You were the one who said lore sucks
Hello neighbor lore sucks, not fnaf
It doesn’t
It does lmao
Nope
I saw it too
You told me to "st*u"
Yeah because you realized that word is banned (And also rude) 
It's just an opinion too calm down
Yes,yes it is
no
Yes
HN lore: magic rocks
FNAF lore: man taking stuff out of robots and putting it in himself to become immortal or something I haven't read it since it came out
The best way to summarize the FNaF lore is "killer is immortal cuz of soul juice while his dead son is looking for him"
Also why are we talking about FNaF

You knew what I meant.
There is a difference between whining and being frustrated with them using stuff from Google Images for over 3 years and still not changing it when we are months away from the release of the game...
I'm pretty sure it's this screenshot.
From Digital Frontiers.
that but photoshopped stuff
maybe they just got a unused car render
and put new stuff in it
or it's fanart too

What are the magazines even for
No clue, watch them be paid with tickets / coupons.

i don't see the pre alpha man shape
It does kinda look like him
Because he’s drawn on
They probably just made the character with the pen tool in Photoshop, since it doesn't look like any character we have seen before.
Also I like how you completely ignored my response @torpid sinew
it kindaaa resembles him, doubt it's him though
i dont see the shape
I see it in the head
To answer the first part "old" it is because it's Hologryph, they love doing that.
They manage to use old assets over new ones on numerous occasions.
Security camera is an example.
where
It's the HG trees, no?
theres also hn1 trees but they dont look hn2 textures
They can edit the mesh you know?
There's also a tree in map 2 that's clipping through the roof
I heard it.
And I changed my opinion
And your opinion now is?
they should remove the placeholders
N O
Andrew bad name
No.
Henry is the superior name
does Andrew refer to Pre Alpha Man, Prototype Man or Alpha 1 man?
They’re all the same.
But it’s still part of the same story

4:30 AM is when i go to sleep😳😳😳
Cause they made it fast and probably badly lol. The mayak trophy‘s roof is the same texture as the eye so I’m not surprised
evidence besides appearing in alphas with nibor man and being addicted to dr- breaking into houses
They all share the same story
They all have the same art style
They all have the same gameplay
one has air as an artstyle
watchman you're joking right
2 are in the ground
BUT AIR
BUT AIRRR
Stop being stupid
AIRRR
Okay
So if you deleted Nicky’s models
Would he be a different character
@gleaming violet would he be?
.
Pre alpha man has super powers because he can make things float so that's why there's no hands in Prototype to alpha 1
yes now shut up and deal with it, don't make up names for characters that don't have official names, it's like saying that bagger's name dex or something like that
but what if it is
it isn't
why did no one say this when mith gets called smith
Because they’re hypocrites.
Its ok to call him as the crow, bird man and raven man as ppl call the guest as such in the books
But goose, is a fan given nickname
smith is an acronym that also happens to be a human name
secret man in the hat
Now answer this
andrew isnt an acronym to my knowledge
-_-
Even andrew is a funny name
it just sounds wrong
And drew
i think the only issue with the andrew name is that it's completely random and not many people will recognize it
A name disgustingly (w)ritten endlessly why
but you do you
wasnt it sombrero man
that was an alternative that some people offered aswell
technically, we could call pre alpha man "Pam" 
or
Topwasa 
or Pamial 
wait i got it
paul
pre alpha's undeserved legend
paul

I don't really like the name "andrew"
Just let me call him Andrew
Let me and Cryxton call him that (And Gavin to an extent)
I like the pre player being named andrew. it just has a ring to it
Pre-Alpha man dosen't sound that bad
PAM 
plus with this i never said you couldn't call him that, i just don't think it sounds good
Why are we talking about this on #lore-discussion?
Oh yeah
2014 animation Neighbor is named Dave
Paul Blart
Dave
Dave
yes
ono
Paul 😳 Blart 😍
sad that paul is already taken by pre alpha man
its his new name
and its an acronym this time
paul
epok
Discuss
trash can on box obsession
Yes
HN Pre-Alpha Lore (speculation): You move into your new (and small) house when you notice a light coming from your Neighbor's Basement door; you walk up to it, but get caught. Then, You tried to get into there over and over again, had a nightmare, and kept getting put back in your house, until finally, when you open The Basement, you realize he's just being overprotective.
can someone make a HN Timeline except everything is in the wrong order and it makes no sense
Hello Neighbor act 3-1996
lol
Paul Mart you mean

Wall Mart
Buymart
I have never been to Walmart
Does neighbor buy stuff from there?
I mean, his name is Mart
he is in #hello-neighbor im pretty sure
In gray manor
Pls go arrest him
But he escpaed

wut
walmart is the real SCP 3008
in the new book?
||the weather station/mayak Pretty sure||
||so the thing that has been explaining the HN lore, got blown up||
Ok
Maybe we'll find out in the game what that means
I think mr Peterson killed his Wife son and daughter, because He thought of worshiping the devil (tell me if I’m wrong I feel like I’m right.)
Well, that was before the canon HN lore
The devil plot doesn’t exist anymore. It was abandoned when Alpha 3 released
The current plot now is this
no, ||it only caught on fire, but it was extinguished||
Diane (the Wife) dies in a car crash, causing Ted, Aaron (the son) , and Mya (the daughter) to get depressed. Aaron accidentally kills Mya because he couldn’t control his anger, causing the already insane Ted to go even more insane. Ted locks up Aaron in the basement, which Nicky (The player) sees. Nicky then explores the basement and gets kidnapped by Ted. Aaron helps Nicky escape, and Nicky runs away. Nicky moves back to Raven Brooks and overcomes his trauma.
bruh
pretty sure it exploded, if it was put out then I dont remember it. but it 100% did not just "catch on fire"
@copper wave ip grabber in almost all chats
What u mean?
okay okay
bro why did he lock Aaron up
(also Aaron did kill Mya)
For protection. If anyone found out, Aaron would be arrested.
found a memorial at the golden apple
yeah
me and a friend were trying to find glitch points
for exploriaton
and we found this
yeah I know lol
Lucy is canonically red and white
The Green Apple Amusement Park
ohhh ok tq
anyone know any glitch points at the golden apple?
He is telling that Lucy died on the tree above the memorial
Cuz in the books, it is said her car was stuck in the tree
Meaning, she got impaled by the branches
ok
Well none knew she died from falling, so they probably assumed she was just killed or is still missing, but iy looks like Aaron did escape at some point
i think they mean nicky got out but aaron didnt
Nicky isnt Peterson's kid tho
It’s possible not too, Nicky could of escaped then said he was keeping Aaron in the basement, but he didn’t make it out as an example.
7 and 2 graphic novels lol
wow
It has it's own book series
7 books, 2 graphic novels and 1 guidebook
Which all expand upon the lore
Heck, hello neighbor even has it's own cartoon show
its not really a show
It is
It isnt
lol
They just need some company to pick it up
Ari has talked about it in this server
Mike has said in an interview that they'll continue on the animation
7 Novels, 2 Graphic novels, and 1 guidebook.

They say “his own kids”, specifically talking about his children.
Why you hitting him so hard?
He said Nicky is the Neighbor’s son
I mean
as a joke
the only thing they share is their odd shaped head
Yes
proof that luanne didnt ditch theodore for jay (the best hn character)
obviously
How even did Mya die from falling off the roof of act 1 house?
theres also some weird tension between nickys parents and ted
Bagger can even survive a fall from the roof of SN Map 3 house
Whereas Mya cant even survive a fall from Act 1 house
because it didn’t happen
her bones havent fully developed and due to HS she most likely landed on around her neck area
It did happen
Bagger doesnt even get knocked
It did happen

In children's head
"If something happens in your head, it doesnt mean its not real"- Albus Dumbledore
True
Thats how act 3 is also real
magic is a little more common in harry potter than hn
This doesnt even mention magic
he literally says it when harry survives the god damn killing curse for the second time
Hmmm
ye
Someone DM this to the out of context Twitter account
Mayor is Danny Devito
i mean penguin becomes mayor in batman returns
Are there chances of HN2 Mayor being Tavish?
no
Why
No
Why tho
because yes

nebor
Because it takes place after the Aaron trilogy
So?
mayors have a four year term
According to Aaron trilogy, there has to have been an election right before HN2
they know he was involved or otherwise he wouldnt have been demayored temporarily
Ye
Mayor is actually adult Bagger






where is mr theodore peterson

