#lore-discussion

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gray dome
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ok and

mystic bramble
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want me to write a list?

minor kayak
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time jump

gray dome
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nft exists

mystic bramble
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ill write a list

tribal talon
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frame*

minor kayak
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2 neighbors

whole elbow
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Is this a Neighbor Guest Debate in July 2021

minor kayak
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etc.

tribal talon
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man in hat has a similar body frame to the gust

mystic bramble
tribal talon
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dear god

minor kayak
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no he doesnt lmao

tribal talon
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I can spell

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skinny arms

tribal talon
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small head

minor kayak
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quentin has skinny arms

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beatrix has a small head

gray dome
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This is what happens without HN2 full game

minor kayak
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vandals too

gray dome
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We can wait tho

mystic bramble
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fun fact

minor kayak
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oh and imbir has a small head

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neighbor fake has a small head

whole elbow
minor kayak
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and all the characters I listed have skinny arms

mystic bramble
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guest is the only other person who uses the leitmotif that was used for theodore in hn1 and hs

minor kayak
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cry about it

tribal talon
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😩

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mate

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nothing

shell sinew
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the odds of them being the same person is a 50/50

tribal talon
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in the alphas

minor kayak
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ok so now that we've given our evidence

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give yours

tribal talon
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are canon

minor kayak
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so

mystic bramble
minor kayak
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90% of our evidence is fully released stuff

mystic bramble
shell sinew
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you will most likely get your answer in the full version

minor kayak
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and stuff teasing full game

torpid sinew
shell sinew
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now go drink some pickle juice and sleep

tribal talon
mystic bramble
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you arent canon

whole elbow
minor kayak
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unless the books, devs teasing, and all our other evidence is in alpha stage

tribal talon
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dude

mystic bramble
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the books are alphas šŸ˜”

minor kayak
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I dont see how a song can be in alpha stage

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same with a book

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but aight

tribal talon
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the book guest just send a picture of ted

mystic bramble
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music plays a part in the theory

torpid sinew
minor kayak
tribal talon
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you dont see in his mask

minor kayak
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you do

tribal talon
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genius

mystic bramble
torpid sinew
mystic bramble
minor kayak
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also ted is missing throughout the entire book

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minus the guest parts ofc

mystic bramble
minor kayak
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exactly

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Im still waiting for RBC to give us some evidence on their side lol

mystic bramble
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and also

minor kayak
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so far they've only called us stupid in response

mystic bramble
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with the part with the mustache

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in one of the casette tapes in the nicky trilogy ted's mustache was described as a horn

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and again in reset day

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ted also does his insane screams, also from the nicky trilogy

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and he texts piper just like he talked to nicky

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the way he worded things

whole elbow
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Does Ted types correctly

mystic bramble
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yes (he uses discord regularly)

torpid sinew
# mystic bramble end of 1.5 intro

That ending part is from Nicky’s theme. Which basically becomes the HN theme since it’s leitmotif is heard everywhere in the series.

minor kayak
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what

tribal talon
mystic bramble
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the leitmotif only plays when theodore is the subject of a section

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and its all 9 notes

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not just 3 descending notes

minor kayak
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also

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reddit user!

mystic bramble
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swear 😳

torpid sinew
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Wait

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Nevermind

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I got confused

whole elbow
mystic bramble
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true

torpid sinew
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Because they both have 3 ending notes

minor kayak
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now I see why this person is so wrong

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they use reddit

tribal talon
minor kayak
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redditors are some of the most toxic people I've ever met

torpid sinew
tribal talon
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am I toxic?

minor kayak
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depends

whole elbow
minor kayak
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no not that bad

tribal talon
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also I just go on bing and download images

minor kayak
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nobody is worse than a dream stan

tribal talon
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I dont go on reddit

minor kayak
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riight

mystic bramble
tribal talon
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how about this

gray dome
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this chat hurts

tribal talon
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none of us know who the guest is

mystic bramble
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yes we do

gray dome
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sure

mystic bramble
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its ted

minor kayak
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we do

tribal talon
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N o o n e k n o w s

mystic bramble
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its a fact its ted!!!

torpid sinew
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.

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@mystic bramble I can’t seem to find that part in Alpha 3’s intro

mystic bramble
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what

torpid sinew
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Ted’s leitmotif

mystic bramble
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go to alpha 3 and it plays at the part when nicky starts speeding up

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it plays a few times

tribal talon
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You dont know wait for the full game if its ted its ted if its someone else its someone else now lets PLEASE shut up šŸ‘ˆ

minor kayak
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but we do know

tribal talon
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No you dont

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its too early

mystic bramble
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we do

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just

minor kayak
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we just spent all this time showing you the ted guest evidence

torpid sinew
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I’m listening to it right now

tribal talon
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lets stop this headache

minor kayak
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and you havent given us any evidence

tribal talon
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please

gray dome
mystic bramble
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yes lets please stop

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ted is guest

torpid sinew
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And I can’t hear those 3 notes

mystic bramble
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the end

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hn2 is releasing in a few months and it has been in development since the start of 2019, making it not too early

minor kayak
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Ill stop when you give some anti neighbor guest evidence that doesnt have to do with proportions (which can be explained with the time jump)

tribal talon
minor kayak
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keyart isnt canon

tribal talon
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do their body frames look similar?

gray dome
minor kayak
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I can have 2 of the main character on my keyart

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doesnt mean theyre not the same person

tribal talon
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and im not saying keyart is canon

gray dome
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Keyart isn't canon unamused

tribal talon
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genius

minor kayak
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literally

mystic bramble
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then what are you saying

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with this image

tribal talon
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Im using them to show theodore

minor kayak
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do you not know about the time jump lol

gray dome
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Does it matter if they show them in the same image?

tribal talon
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we dont know what theodore looks like in the time jump

gray dome
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Actually

minor kayak
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well we know hed look older

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and skinnier

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and like the neighbor seen in the ted guest images

gray dome
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What about the book 7 cover smile

mystic bramble
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book 7

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which

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believe it or not

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is designed similarly

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to

gray dome
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confirms Neighbor Guest

mystic bramble
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the guest neighbor face test man

tribal talon
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He is still bulky in the book 7 cover

mystic bramble
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body shape and all

minor kayak
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dont talk about proportions for RD neighbor either cause diane has a completely different design in the books

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and enzo and maritza arent white in the first 3

mystic bramble
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gamediane isnt book diane

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wh

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discord

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that

minor kayak
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exactly

mystic bramble
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is n

gray dome
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wait that's a sticker w h a t

mystic bramble
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i dont want to use your damn stickers discord

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stopp automatically suggesting them

minor kayak
torpid sinew
minor kayak
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at least she doesnt look like a college student

mystic bramble
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neighbor is a girl šŸ˜”

torpid sinew
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She has ugly lips and a bland dress

mystic bramble
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game diane has a better design imo

torpid sinew
gray dome
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please

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no

minor kayak
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dont even

gray dome
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don't remind me of THAT

tribal talon
torpid sinew
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Beta’s fandom was-

minor kayak
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yes it was

tribal talon
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enzo is white in Aarons books

minor kayak
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the SN diane is from HS

minor kayak
torpid sinew
tribal talon
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I will say that diane looks diffrent

mystic bramble
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diane is shown again in book 5

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with the book 1 design too

minor kayak
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AS diane also uses book design

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technically

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since they reused a photo from the books

torpid sinew
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Oh

minor kayak
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animated series

torpid sinew
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Animated Series

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There it looks good

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Since she lost her ugly lips

minor kayak
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its the same drawing tho

torpid sinew
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They remade it

minor kayak
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did they?

minor kayak
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not that

torpid sinew
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But they made them more bearable

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What are you talking about then

minor kayak
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maybe they did redraw it?

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idk it looks the same

torpid sinew
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oh

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That’s taken from the books

minor kayak
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I know

torpid sinew
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.

minor kayak
torpid sinew
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Hold on

mystic bramble
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game diane still best diane

minor kayak
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I want the model

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just so I can make custom family photos for mods and stuff

mystic bramble
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see you in 2040

minor kayak
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you mean when empathy (hn2) releases

torpid sinew
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Can someone show me book 5 Diane?

minor kayak
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I think its the same

minor kayak
mystic bramble
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yeah

torpid sinew
# mystic bramble

I love how Aaron’s default expression is a dead inside expression

mystic bramble
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and cross eyed

minor kayak
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aarons lazy eyes should have been more of a thing

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its a cool detail thats probably not intentional

mystic bramble
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frog aaron

minor kayak
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but it kinda fits his character

mystic bramble
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same pattern as diane (baker is the ghost of diane)

minor kayak
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quentin has a shirt similar to the guests

minor kayak
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his eyes are fine ish here

torpid sinew
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It kinda fits

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I’m focusing more on the dead expression he has

mystic bramble
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true

torpid sinew
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He’s growing a beard

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Aaron’s hairstyle in Book 1 is weird

vernal kraken
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when you live in small towns alot of people can have the exact same clothes due to the fact there's only one store and maybe a helping hand that sells/exchanges clothes

sterile remnant
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Aaron is scary now

torpid sinew
sterile remnant
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Yes that is scarier then… horror movies

torpid sinew
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Son (Aaron Peterson) 2

sterile remnant
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Peterson Aaron

torpid sinew
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Aaron (Son Peterson)

sterile remnant
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Son Diane (Mr Mya)

torpid sinew
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Diane (Aaron) Peterson Theodore Mya

sterile remnant
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Nicky Peterson Aaron (Diane Roth) Mr Theodore Mya Lucy (Guest YI)

torpid sinew
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The Theodore (Aaron) Guest Roth (Diane) Nicky Mya Lucy (Peterson) Piper (The)

mystic bramble
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this is what no alpha 2 does

torpid sinew
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Yes

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Suffer

sterile remnant
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Roger Roth (Peterson Lucy) Adele YI (Guest Aaron) Mya Diane (Guest Cleave) Gordon Piper (Enzo Tillman) Trinity The

torpid sinew
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Or suffer the wrath of ligma

mystic bramble
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what about bofa

torpid sinew
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No thanks, Chie’s already maxed out.

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But we have sugma.

mystic bramble
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you forgot candice

torpid sinew
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I shot Candice.

mystic bramble
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sugondese wont like that

torpid sinew
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Chokma loves these jokes

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Why do the books contradict everything

mystic bramble
silver vine
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It is confirmed. Alex said alphas give hints

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Guest is old neighbor

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In the files, we have a model called neighbor old

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He is just the neighbor, but skinnier

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They already did

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Nikita said it himself lol

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Then why does guest have the same exact moustache Ted has?

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Guest's right leg also twitches when he sleeps

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Same exact thing neighbor does in HN1

minor kayak
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both of them have a limp

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they wouldnt have made that a character trait unless it was important

silver vine
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Nikita himself said he will never lie

tribal talon
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guys, you are so good, you always believe everyone, thinking that they will never lie to you for their own benefitšŸ™‚

mystic bramble
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its also in alpha 4 intro, act 2 ending, act 3 when nicky drives by teds house, nicky getting ptsd when the phone rings, hs stage 3 ending when ted drops the purse, hn2 alpha 1.5 intro

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i go into more detail here

torpid sinew
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I’ve always loved Nicky’s theme

wicked heath
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heck

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its the best one

torpid sinew
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It’s so good it got remixed 2 times.

mystic bramble
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three

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arriving, unpack (short), and credits

torpid sinew
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Speaking of Nicky’s theme

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What if we had a broken version in HN2

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Signifying his trauma or something like that

verbal jewel
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Just read the argument above lmao love how the guy was then " let's say nobody knows who he is"

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Hurts to be wrong huh

tribal talon
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the leg twitch

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yes that does probably mean they are related

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but I was actually pissed off

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about these people

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basically hammering me

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and not even considering what I was saying

verbal jewel
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Because you we're wrong

tribal talon
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which is why I wanted out of this brain cancer inducing arguement

verbal jewel
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There's nothing to theorize

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The devs gave us everything

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The models the images the texts

tribal talon
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again

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Just wait till the full game

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I really want to shut up about this

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this gives me headaches

verbal jewel
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Because you're desperately hoping that when the game releases there is a small chance that the guest is someone else

tribal talon
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there is still a chance dude

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even if it is ted

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until I see his face under the mask I dont believe it

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or see a alpha 2 skinny ted

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(or full game)

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and if it is someone else

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im gonna laugh my head off if I remember this

verbal jewel
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Hhhh

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We do see his face under the mask!

mystic bramble
tribal talon
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and I'm leaving because gavin doesnt listen to anything

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im just gonna wait till tiny crow comes on

mystic bramble
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stop being wrong then

verbal jewel
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Hm

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Ya

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And tiny crow ain't gonna help with you being wrong

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It's hard to defend someone when there wrong

mystic bramble
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it isnt "we dont know who the guest is"
its "we know who the guest is but you arent accepting it"

whole elbow
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The Guest is Mya

mystic bramble
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exactly

torpid sinew
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Those chances are really, REALLY minuscule

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The only thing that could possibly disprove it is Guest arm’s being long.

mystic bramble
versed yacht
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There could be multiple guests

mystic bramble
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why would there be

versed yacht
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Fair point

torpid sinew
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Where there were multiple Xenomorpjs taking turns chasing and attacking you

versed yacht
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Yeah, kinda like that

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Maybe the "guest world" is literally a world of guests from different universes and timelines

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And there's just like

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An infinite amount of guests

mystic bramble
torpid sinew
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There’s still a bunch of evidence for Neighbor Guest

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besides the fact that it was proven

versed yacht
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Yeah I'm not saying he isn't

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I'm just saying 😳

torpid sinew
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I know

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😳

versed yacht
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The guest is revealed to be every HN character

mystic bramble
versed yacht
torpid sinew
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There’s also evidence to counter the ā€œGuest isn’t Tedā€ argument

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Like the limp

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Some people may say it’s faked

mystic bramble
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music

torpid sinew
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But it twitches when Guest is sleeping

versed yacht
torpid sinew
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I don’t think someone faking it would have it twitch when asleep.

mystic bramble
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*mya

silver vine
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Whats your question

torpid sinew
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He thinks Guest isn’t Neighbor

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Despite the HUGE amount of evidence that confirms it.

minor kayak
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So far they still haven't given any counter evidence

vivid merlin
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I don't care about malicious things. but I can see good intentions

silver vine
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lol

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Mecit, pls unblock me

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Someone pls tell him to unblock me

torpid sinew
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Their counter evidence is ā€œOh the full game hasn’t come out yet.ā€

minor kayak
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That isn't counter evidence

vivid merlin
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on one condition

tribal talon
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the alphas arent fully canon

torpid sinew
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That’s what they’re trying to use to counter it.

tribal talon
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we cant assume anything

minor kayak
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Meaning ted guest is canon

tribal talon
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also heres a fact

vivid merlin
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Nevermind

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(The ban has been removed for now.)

tribal talon
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lets shut the heck up

silver vine
tribal talon
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this causes headaches

torpid sinew
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Beatrix is canon, Vandals are canon, the children are canon.

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You’re causing headaches.

silver vine
tribal talon
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tiny crow is being smart

minor kayak
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Here's a fact every model in HN is made during development of the game, that doesn't mean they aren't canon

tribal talon
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we can theorize about the full game and not this crap

minor kayak
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Well maybe stop being wrong trolldance

mystic bramble
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neighbor guest is about full game

torpid sinew
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For the love of god

versed yacht
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Why can't you guys just let them think what they want to think, I get you guys are just trying to tell him the truth but seriously it's dumb and it starts wars PU_Sadge

tribal talon
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this neighbor = guest crap

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it causes arguements

mystic bramble
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because its true but you arent accepting it

versed yacht
tribal talon
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lets please stop

versed yacht
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Yes

tribal talon
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listen to dizzy

silver vine
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yes

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But

mystic bramble
versed yacht
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This always starts wars, there's no point

silver vine
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I will say one last thing

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If RBC lets me

tribal talon
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go ahead

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you arent gavin so its fine lol

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nor krahan

minor kayak
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What did Gavin do lol

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Be right?

torpid sinew
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Speak the truth

mystic bramble
minor kayak
tribal talon
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dang it bot

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cant use gifs

mystic bramble
tribal talon
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crow since this place is kinda toxic

young kayak
tribal talon
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can we just leave and go to the server I made

minor kayak
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No

tribal talon
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incase this war happens

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which it will

mystic bramble
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the war is over

vivid merlin
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there is someone on this server who listens to what I say and listens well

mystic bramble
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the war ended in may

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with reset day

tribal talon
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again gavin drags it on

vivid merlin
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komete

tribal talon
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you remind me of myself in a sense

torpid sinew
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Okay

mystic bramble
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but im right

minor kayak
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Time loop

torpid sinew
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He’s right

tribal talon
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always so stubborn

minor kayak
torpid sinew
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You’re argument is like saying 1+1 = 3 when it obvious equals 2.

mystic bramble
tribal talon
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ah dont we all love trolling

versed yacht
tribal talon
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oh my god its finally here

torpid sinew
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YESSS

mystic bramble
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no way

torpid sinew
mystic bramble
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yeah

torpid sinew
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yes

whole elbow
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The Guest

sterile remnant
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Imbir is Guest

silver vine
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Im back guys

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I just want to say one last thing

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And we will close of with neigbhor guest argument

tribal talon
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please crow

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if it will end this

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go ahead

silver vine
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I mean

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I dont think it will end this tbh

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Actually I dont want to say it now tbf

tribal talon
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thats fine

silver vine
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I just want to ask you

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One lil

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thing

tribal talon
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just say something holy so god will save this server

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go ahead and ask

silver vine
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Hmmm

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Book 7 says Piper saw a mustache inside guest's beak

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And there is also a neighbor model in the files called neighbor_old

tribal talon
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wait

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tell me what chapter it was

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I wanna check it out later

silver vine
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End of ch 11

tribal talon
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k

silver vine
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Except

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He is wayy skinnier

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Like the guest

tribal talon
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See this is actual evidence

silver vine
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Yes

tribal talon
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excluding the model

silver vine
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Why

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model itself is evidence

tribal talon
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those people didnt mention the mustache beak thing

silver vine
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Ye

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thats why I wanted to mention it

tribal talon
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as far as the model im still skeptic

silver vine
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Why?

tribal talon
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because we dont know how much of HG is scrapped

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and how much isnt

silver vine
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HG isnt even scrapped

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Nikita said this: HG kinda is a part of HN2

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In his personal YT stream

tribal talon
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yeah

silver vine
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And also in discord he said HG and ROTM arent scrapped

shrewd dove
silver vine
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Guest is Mya neighborlol

tribal talon
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GASP

silver vine
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GAAP

tribal talon
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lol

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also what did rotm stand for?

shrewd dove
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Run on the mill

tribal talon
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I dont remember it

whole elbow
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Rumble on the Mill

shrewd dove
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Oh ye

silver vine
tribal talon
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leg limp is true

silver vine
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Yes

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Ik

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I have seen it myself

tribal talon
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im still gonna ignore the facial tests

silver vine
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Both in HN1 and HN2

silver vine
tribal talon
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like I said

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we really dont know if some stuff got scrapped or not

silver vine
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Hmmm

tribal talon
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I know only the planning is canon on SN

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but clown neighbor can dress as the guest

silver vine
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Yes

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Clown neighbor is Ted

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And its implied Ted is Guest

tribal talon
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yeah

silver vine
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Mike says guest was created to stalk the player

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So, the main thing he's gonna do in the game is stalk you

tribal talon
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yeah

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you know

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here's something interesting

silver vine
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It seems, that they wanted to showcase the stalker AI first. thats why they released something called HG

tribal talon
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if we follow theodore when he goes to the park

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or wherever he goes

silver vine
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Museum bravesmile

tribal talon
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will we be able to see him put the costume on?

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because if so

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and the guest is skinny

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logic doesnt work in HN anymore

silver vine
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Now that we know guest exists in 2021

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And there is also a skinny version of Ted called neighbor old

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So, we either have a time jump or...

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Future neighbor could have traveled back in time

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Or, could have looped time all the way back to the 90s

silver vine
tribal talon
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yeah

silver vine
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Or, Guest becoming skinny is just HN logic

sterile remnant
tribal talon
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I feel like half of HN2

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will be when nicky is in the basement

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and half in the future

silver vine
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We aint gonna have acts in HN2 tho

sterile remnant
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I feel like when you get in the basement Mr Peterson is gonna put the Guest suit on

silver vine
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Nikita and Mike have said multiple times that HN2 is gonna be seamless

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No acts

sterile remnant
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what's Seamless

silver vine
sterile remnant
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I fee like a 4 year old that doesn't know what Seamless is

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OH

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the game sounds better

silver vine
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Nikita says that the acts in HN2 are gonna be more like side quests

sterile remnant
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ah

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when did he say that

silver vine
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You can do them in anyorder

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And one affects the other

silver vine
sterile remnant
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It'll be cool if the side quest was like a Link's Awakening type

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where you would give a person a item and he would give you another one

silver vine
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He said that when you go to a certain place, chunks of stories will open up

sterile remnant
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then give the item the first person gave you to another person

silver vine
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So, ig that HG is gonna be one of those acts/side quests

sterile remnant
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You should be able to open up a map

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and find a location

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When Hn2? >:)

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jk

tribal talon
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imagine if you could set Mr Peterson's house on fire as one of the acts

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then quentin would get arrested

shrewd dove
shrewd dove
silver vine
silver vine
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So, I have to include his too

minor kayak
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Well the guest seems to be somewhere in the future

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Also park Quentin has different proportions than journalist

silver vine
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ye

minor kayak
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Plus doing construction on a house takes a lot of time, aka adding an extension and removing/adding walls

shrewd dove
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2 theories I think are true: Guest is Mr. Peterson from the future, and 2. Quentin is related to ike in some way, idk how, maybe brother.

minor kayak
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But we dunno if they'll keep the redesign

silver vine
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Extension was added before HN2

minor kayak
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Says who

silver vine
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Only the useless extension was added later

shrewd dove
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Because when Quentin comes it is there I am pretty sure.

silver vine
minor kayak
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That's what I mean

silver vine
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?

minor kayak
silver vine
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so?

minor kayak
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Also teds house has changed quite a few times already

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Maybe they'll change it again

silver vine
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It didnt

shrewd dove
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Extension won’t be shown in game, like how would you do that. It’s built into the house, bet it’s a dev choice.

minor kayak
# silver vine It didnt

Menu house, a1 house, 1.5 house, hello teaser house, 16 hour stream house, possible others im either forgetting or haven't been shown

silver vine
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16 hour stream is the recent one

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Teaser house is the oldest one

minor kayak
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AI trailer was recent too

silver vine
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Yes

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AI Trailer is just stream build, but better

minor kayak
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And the house is differenttrolldance

silver vine
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What house?

minor kayak
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Teds house horror

silver vine
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Except the basement scene and the friendly court scene, we didnt even see it

minor kayak
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Stream had windows

silver vine
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What windows?

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Bedroom/kitchen windows?

minor kayak
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Literally

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All windows

silver vine
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I aint seeing any windows

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Am I blind?

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Or does it have transparent windows?

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Windows with no lines?

minor kayak
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they're more noticable up close cause of the cracks

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idk if the living room has them

silver vine
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How do we know AI trailer build doesnt have windows?

minor kayak
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maybe the glass is just super transparent?

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you can see cracks in it here but idk

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yeah nvm I dont think living room has them

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ted pokes his head out sometimes

shrewd dove
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Meaning no windows at all, it would be weird if just some had windows and some not lol.

silver vine
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I did

torpid sinew
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🤮

tribal talon
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i guess you can see it

minor kayak
#

eew diane

whole elbow
tribal talon
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worse

silver vine
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I dont like Diane's design at all

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Both in books and games

torpid sinew
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Anime girls don’t have lips that look like bees stung them

silver vine
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In games, she looks like a college girl

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In books she looks like a normal mother, but with weird lips

minor kayak
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I cant tell is diane white in the books

tribal talon
#

wh

minor kayak
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or is it just a darker tone

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not even trying to sound offensive I literally cannot tell with the way they drew her

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compared to like, ted in puzzle master

tribal talon
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no no ok

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i meant at all

minor kayak
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at all what

tribal talon
#

her skin color is not like in game?

minor kayak
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its definitely not

agile hare
torpid sinew
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She looks blackish

minor kayak
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glass is important to the lore

agile hare
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real

torpid sinew
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She has a small tan maybe

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But like

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Good lord

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She looks so ugly

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She looks normal in the family painting

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There she has normal looking lips

silver vine
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I suppose this is the tree, Ted chopped down in book 3

shrewd dove
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Ye

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I think it’s in hn2 tho lol

silver vine
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It isnt

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I just played

shrewd dove
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No I mean alpha 2

silver vine
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Wait

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Is it

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I think its time to watch the showcase again

shrewd dove
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I got the vid I can just send a screenshot

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lemme check

whole elbow
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The tree is in E3 trailer

shrewd dove
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Nvm there isn’t

shrewd dove
whole elbow
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šŸ˜”

silver vine
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It isnt the same tree

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Books say that Aaron can literally touch the tree

whole elbow
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Humans can't touch a tree?

silver vine
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he says he can touch the tree from his window

tribal talon
minor kayak
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"early model" no

tribal talon
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mate

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hello guest has alot of missing textures and such

minor kayak
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it was made around the time the other characters (beatrix, the guest, etc.) were made and they havent been remade

tribal talon
#

they remade quentin

minor kayak
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they wouldnt fully model and texture and animate a character just to scrap it

tribal talon
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into the journalist uniform

minor kayak
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no thats just changing some proportions and adding some stuff

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he wasnt remade he was revamped

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but thats just for one section of the game

tribal talon
#

so they may remake him

minor kayak
#

park quentin will still be used

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revamp

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they wont remake quentin lol

tribal talon
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Im talking just reshape his model a bit

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like his torso

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not scrap it

minor kayak
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theyd have to change his legs and fingers too

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fingers are where it gets tricky

tribal talon
#

yeah

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I'd imagine them being hard to animate

minor kayak
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no I mean its tricky cause the animations wouldnt match up

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they made his fingers longer on park quentin

tribal talon
#

yeah

tribal talon
#

we know for sure that press quentin is here to stay

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so they might change park quentins hands

minor kayak
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same with park fear

tribal talon
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if they keep him

minor kayak
tribal talon
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park Quentin has camera on his bike

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what for

minor kayak
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well why not

tribal talon
#

yeah

minor kayak
#

you bring your phone with you everywhere dont you

tribal talon
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t h e y d o n t h a v e c e l l p h o n e s i n t h e 9 0 s

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unless this does take place in the future

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which I doubt

tribal talon
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say that to hn2 alpha 1

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which has hecking drones

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smart phones

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sorry

minor kayak
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HE has them

tribal talon
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dumb phones

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you can find a phone on the map to distract guest

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thats an old style phone

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im talking about like

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the flat ones

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from the 2000's

minor kayak
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HE has smart phones

tribal talon
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HE is cursed anyway

minor kayak
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on the menu maritza is using one

tribal talon
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Hello engineer?

minor kayak
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yes

tribal talon
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I dont think that's fully canon

minor kayak
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the menu is the IRL side of it

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sooo

tribal talon
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it's a dumb concept

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the inventors club died when lucy died

minor kayak
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you just dont understand

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clearly not

tribal talon
#

dear god

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tinybuild has screwed everything up with HE

minor kayak
#

how so

tribal talon
#

why did they make that disgrace

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it doesnt even look like a neighbor game

minor kayak
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maybe phones are just canon in HN now

tribal talon
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well we can say that it's just sn trailer to show that sn is on mobile now.....

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THIS is about what a phone should look like in HN

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šŸ‘†

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and surprisingly it is

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in hn2

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besides

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I heard someone say that keyart wasnt canon

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or art at least

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again canon word

minor kayak
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keyart is not canon

tribal talon
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as always

minor kayak
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you can put the main character on keyart twice but that doesnt mean they're separate people trolldance

tribal talon
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then dont use art as evidence then

minor kayak
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I never have...?

tribal talon
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or heck even the menu

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whatever you said that was

minor kayak
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the menu isnt keyart

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its an in game thing

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keyart is used for advertising and stuff

tribal talon
#

keyarts aren't canon, yet they hinting on some things

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you know

minor kayak
#

now reminder

tribal talon
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Quentin's shoes

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not for funny

minor kayak
#

keyart isnt canon but it can still include canon things

tribal talon
#

logic exploded

minor kayak
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also I want that couch

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ok look at it this way

tribal talon
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nah sorry

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only this for you

minor kayak
# tribal talon logic exploded

keyart itself isnt canon. but it can include things that are canon, such as characters and events in the game. just because something is in the keyart doesnt mean it isnt canon, if that were the case none of the characters in HN2 would be canon and there would be a paradox

tribal talon
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hn2 is already one big paradox

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who knows if HE isnt canon

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maybe it is

minor kayak
#

we dont know where HE takes place in the timeline

tribal talon
#

We DONT know

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it's just game

minor kayak
tribal talon
#

it almost doesn't have proper lore

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no it doesnt

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only 3 new missing kids

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that's it

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even more, imagine making very important game with deep lore for stadia only

whole elbow
tribal talon
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how much peoples played HE at all? 200?

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for stadia it's already big number

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it's just game to get more money from google, so they can support hn2 more

minor kayak
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have either of you played HE

tribal talon
minor kayak
#

what about it

tribal talon
#

read closely and you'll find the sarcasm

minor kayak
#

what

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how is that sarcasm

tribal talon
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i get it

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because your eyes are too closed

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I am a steam user

minor kayak
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they need to be open so I can mod

tribal talon
#

not stadia

torpid sinew
minor kayak
tribal talon
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soon means after 1 year

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and we don't even know is 1 year timer started already with early access of HE

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only edited sn neighbor on random levels

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I haven't played it because of stadia

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like most of this server

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yep

silver vine
tribal talon
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original

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why not raven

silver vine
#

CROW is an acronym

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For something very long to remember

tribal talon
#

that sounds like a good name

torpid sinew
tribal talon
#

W:We

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A:Ate

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N:Nicky

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A:And consumed Aaron

torpid sinew
vivid merlin
#

What

torpid sinew
#

What

storm salmon
#

What

mystic bramble
#

What

tribal talon
#

Who

torpid sinew
#

You broke the chain.

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Dammit.

shrewd dove
#

or did he, uh I mean what

gray dome
shrewd dove
whole elbow
wicked heath
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we discussion here

shrewd dove
#

Mya is guest confirmed

opal jackal
#

Facts

vernal kraken
#

HN discord lore: I feel like if yall did this a year or two ago you would've gotten muted for spam lol

tribal talon
#

true

wicked heath
silver vine
#

EMU?

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More like CROW

torpid sinew
strange lance
silver vine
#

I mean its CROW now

strange lance
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Well were are talking about before...

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When it was EMU

tribal talon
#

emulator or something

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wth is emu

strange lance
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Club Trinity, Enzo, and Maritza, and Nicky made for something I forgot

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It was with the enviornment or something

silver vine
silver vine
strange lance
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That's it

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EMU sounds cooler

wicked heath
strange lance
#

Remember when Nicky made himself look crazy infront of everyone. Favorite part of mine

silver vine
#

Mine too

#

Guys, whats your favorite HN books

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Mine is Guidebook and reset day

strange lance
#

I don't really like reset day, it feels very slow paced with lots of filler in it.

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Also kind of boring in my opinion

silver vine
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But I like the guest parts

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And I like guidebook, cuz its the only book as of rn, canon to the games

torpid sinew
silver vine
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I know all books are canon

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But, they dont take place in "game universe"

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Eg. the years the are different in the books

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Park is destroyed in the books, and in the games it didnt

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Neighbor's house is destroyed in the games, and in the books it didnt

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Guidebook is the only book which takes place in game universe

whole elbow
#

Ah yes, you can totally poison the milk in Act 1

tribal talon
silver vine
#

There are not major lore mistakes

silver vine
#

They paved the park with concrete

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But just left it there

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Just to get demolished again

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Demolished 25 years later

tribal talon
#

I forgot alot of stuff because I havent read them in a while

silver vine
#

Book 7

tribal talon
#

also

silver vine
#

In the prologue they were chipping away the concrete

tribal talon
#

I checked out chapter 11

silver vine
#

On top of the park

tribal talon
#

I seen the part of were

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piper sees a mustache

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I think piper was imagining it

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I mean

silver vine
#

She wasnt

tribal talon
#

she could have not

silver vine
#

She could have

tribal talon
#

I need to reread all the books

silver vine
#

If the guest opened his beak

tribal talon
#

yeah

silver vine
#

Which he probably did

tribal talon
#

my question is

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why is the guest puffing out smoke from his beak

silver vine
tribal talon
#

how is peterson / or someone else even doing that anyways

#

they must have lungs made of iron lol

silver vine
#

Ted wants ppl to know about his presence

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That's why he emits smoke and smokey smell around the ppl

tribal talon
#

yeah but how does he even produce that much smoke without becoming roasted crow with lung problems

silver vine
#

A contraption ig

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He is an engineer

tribal talon
#

true

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also

#

I get the feeling that the man in hat is a member of a society

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or something

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or a team of PIs

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because piper's mom says people in black suits approached her

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and hats

silver vine
#

If he can turn a cheese grater into a telescope, how hard will it be for him to create a contraption which emits smoke, clicking noises and can hold his golden apple

tribal talon
#

yeah

silver vine
tribal talon
#

I know

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but they sound similar in a way

silver vine
#

All we know about MITH is this:
He is always observing. Both the
player and neighbor.
Everyone in town knows he is watching the neighbor.
He is observing for now. He will have a role in game.
He doesn't like both the player and the neighbor.

tribal talon
#

yeah

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I feel like fake neighbor is also mith

silver vine
#

nah

#

I think NF is just a random dude cosplaying as Ted

tribal talon
#

the way you said that is funny

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"Adult man breaks into house pretending to be theodore peterson known for the golden apple accident, Man was arrested and he yelled "IT WAS MY AU" before being pushed into the police car, charges are pending" -Raven Brooks Banner

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dude

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Im so happy those kind of people havent found their way to this fandom yet

#

I think the original's failure basically built a wall