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lol
whoa
and get stuck in a time loop
this is the entirety of raven brooks
I found that and nobody believed me
I searched up Mr Peterson's house
and I got Mr Peterson's house Raven Brooks
look
Found his house
woah
Ok I think the neighbor is dead because he felt like it
HEllo Neighbor Lore:
- Mart moves in
- toby moves in
- toby doesnt like mart's basement because of the screams O_O
- toby breaks in and stuck 😢
- toby break out!!
- toby big
- toby move in and have scaries!!!!!!
- toby assaulting
- end
shooting
danger
The neighbor isn't the guest because neighbor has the fats and his legs look lioke funny skinny and guest is too O_O
But hey, it tells us who the guest is
Sticvk
YEazh I dunjno who he is but its him
Yes
That's why he wears guest costume
Hes too fat to be the gues
neighbor isnt guest beaue aron is the guest!!
Ike dont care 😎
But he is
Nooo
Guest rhymes with arrin
HN2 is right before or right after act 2
Shut the shut up im talking here
How can Aaron grow into an adult within a span of days
Yo
Obviously he drank radioactive juice
and the devs are just buildermans
Ik you are trolling
Checkmate 😉
books are wrote by that author but the author is not alex capirco
They are official
Nikita tells the lore and what to write in the book
aw man guest really isnt aring, maybe its aaron???
Yeah its gotta be aaron the electricity company
😭 😭 😭 can we comflagerate?
Wdym by comflagerate
nevermind :((
But why did he become a bird!?
To escape from the police
He's a wanted person
when did mart become a prisoner??
After he kidnapped his neighbor
Nicky
@silver vine you know they're kidding right
Have fun for once and stop being so serious, believe me it will break you at some point
Wait you guys aren't the same person 
How did I just realize that
Ik it's off topic but I'm just mentioning it cause It's funny
Who me and tiny crow
Yes
How are we anything alike



some here that discuss lore get too serious about the lore
Like me!
Yes
I take lore VERY seriously
And I hate jokes, trolls and ppl giving false info about lore
Same
Like these guys
And these
See, heres the truth. Neighbor is Guest. Its confirmed. We dont know how he is or how he can be. All we know is that he is the guest. The other guys were just trolling
this sounds like the most ominous and vague threat ever
Oh
I’m fine with the jokes
I just hate people that actually believe the dumb theories
@young kayak Sorry for the ping, but we got a bot.
it's not a bot
,hacked account
ik
If my theory is correct, in a way HN2 can be after act 3
How
Like itt or not ted/Theodore is the guest
Books = cannon
*canon
Nah
Let us not forget the teasers devs gave us
And the smol hints in Alpha 1/1.5
Look i have read that book 8 time it all points to him being the guest
Book 8
He says he read that book, 8 times
Teaser given by devs
If it was just that face teaser i wouldn't believe it i didn't until book 7
At this point, its literally confirmed its him
Ah yes, the gif that I've seen 18473927 times
It's literally not fanfiction. Your theories are clearly incorrect. Sorry that we just know more Hello Neighbor lore than you 😌
I agree
I feel like the neighbor being the guest is too obvious
plus the guest is alot more skinny then the neighbor
I know
Neighbor runs away from police and doesn't eat for weeks (becomes thinner)
I know but in the dev log thingy they said the guest stalks people at night
and if you can still visit peterson
then its someone else
Ok look somethings are different from books and games but it is the same story and timeline
Another piece of evidence for the Guest being the Neighbor is the fact that from what I've heard, at night Peterson goes into the forest to dig while the Guest comes out and stalks you. So I think the "going into the forest" is just a cover-up for changing into his forest protector persona.
could be
Which could also give you an opportunity to sneak into Peterson's house while he's not there, but being stalked by the Guest so you have to watch your back
ight ima head out
why is the bird called "the guest" or canonly "the visitor"
I'm not sure to be honest
if The manor was peterson's house he wouldnt be "a visitor"
3 days
the guest is someone else
wait no
Maybe he was just named after Eerie Guest Studios ¯_(ツ)_/¯
I said "maybe". I'm not sure so
he wasnt
he wasnt
okay okay
I don't remember why tb decided to call it that
Have differents because you have to read a book so they have to describe things in more detail but in a game you play so they have to get read of somethings like how things happen like for example book 3s ending completely different from the book
But it wasn't due to the Guest
What
w h a t
that's very confusing
I don't think English was prioritised in that statement
what if the "guest" is actually the owner of the manor and Peterson is the actual guest
Nah because Peterson fled from the police and that's his hideout home
He meant book 3's ending was completely different from the game
Ah
Like you can explain things in more detail in the book
And some things may be cut from the game so they can add more story elements in the book
What was the ending then? I haven't read book 3 I don't know what it's about
And now they're using Mayak to tie everything together
Yeah
Mayak is the magical building that will explain everything don't worry guys
Of course not, they didn't even know what they wanted the story to be when designing all the alphas for the first game
Yes 😩
I haven't read any of the hello neighbor books. But I really need to
OK
The only thing I don't like is that they don't give us many clues, they just give us bits of information like "hey this building exists" and we have to try to piece things together with nothing to go off of
if this is about neighborguest
🆗
im just going to say
leitmotifs
book 7 confirms neighborguest, and there's already teasers we've seen from alex and nikita
Aaron guest (real) clickbait not
he isn't "the Visitor" he's canonically called "The Guest"
nikita?
Peterson is The Guest from the future
the visitor is a code name
The visitor is his name in the files.
files isn't canon 
what
visitor is a synonym for guest
easy
imagine if Error world was canon
From the game not book sorry point is thing are going to look different from the game and book in book 7 the say the guest has a hansle bar mustache
Names aren't cannon
please god no
i had a stroke reading this
Technically every character can have any name, thank you Nikita
Imagine if guest world was canon. That would be crazy
Mart Wilson from Hi Man Across the Street
Only other person whos one is ted
I lost several braincells reading this
I get feelings that him being Mr peterson is too obvious though
Yes
Right
they WANT you to think that
It's not about it being too obvious. Our goal isn't to figure out who the guest is, it's to figure out what Mr Peterson's motives are and what his and the town's secrets are.
Okay, so my in game name is Tyrone Peterson
Who Guest is really doesn't matter imo
But they proved it multiple times
If you want, that's what Nikita said, but they do have canonical names
we don't need to figure out who he is
we know
None of the alphas are canon
anything alpha 1.5 and under
Alpha 0.5 🧐
Hello Guest 
Yeah that's what I'm getting at
mfw when The Guest is actually Peterson from the future cus Reset Day fricks with time
say what you want
they have names
cough cough
while yes
they do have canonical names
hold on
Mart is guest pog
Theodore Peterson is canon name cry about it
wilson is guest
Yes, I know cries
w i l s o n
Wilson Mart 😊
mart wilson is the guest not theodore peterson
Gordon Freeman is guest confirmed

"And yes and no. The names really are all canonical now. However, because of what lies at the heart of the Crow's Creek universe, the characters can have any name they want." ignore the crow's creek part translate isn't the best
mart ferguson "neighbor" wilson
Creek Brooks Mart Wilson guest
Omg what is going on
this chat is ruined
these theories are reaching a point where these conversations become toxic
Logic
He literally sands the main character a picture of the neighbour on her phone. Saying i got her after the main characters mum gose missing and the person who sent picture is called guest
If you guys want to talk about anything other than lore then feel free to go to #hello-neighbor like what the channel was designed for
wait who made this
Cry about it
is that SHM's render or Mr. Racist's model
thats my animation
No one is even talking about lore anymore
(Mr racist will not be named because im not giving him attention)
animation by me
I literally didn't swear
what did you say? Say it with spaces or something
There's lots of words that aren't allowed
the heck
NO
Ye
pleaseeee
He is canonically called as Bird Man
What
Nooooooo
Hhhhh
Forest protecter
Guest in Alpha 1/1.5 does a LOT of similar things to neighbor
he's not
No
Actually, he is Mart Wilson's brother in law
everything about this channel hurts
Thats true
Actually, he is Mart Wilson's pet rat
my brain hurts
EXACTLY
Hey guys look at this, pretty cool isn't it
This is why I'm more inactive than I used to be
this is also why most of the good parts of this community left
listen here you little non-believer, if you refuse to think the guest isn't Peterson I must inform you that you life support warranty is going to expire in minus than a minute, so let's just sort this out before something happens-
Look, if y'all don't want to talk about lore, you can go to #hello-neighbor. Stop ruining the chat for others who actually want to talk about what they're supposed to here.
yeah
My braincells hurt
Cuz its the truth
discussing this counts as lore
so stop
rumble on the-
-_-
Will
they want you to think nicky is 13 (hes actually 90)
The pictures also include some words <3
In the books, they literally call him as Bird Man
And?
that's weird
This channel hurts
ok
I wouldn't expect them to call him the guest but still
i am sick of this
My braincells hurt so much
that's a nickname, it's not The Guest's real name 
what is with people joining, ruining the channels and discussions, then disappearing
it really does
We're slowly getting back on track to talking about what we're supposed to but we're being stopped by people saying "this channel hurts" :p
Please just stop
Guest real name is Theodore Masters Peterson
i am holding back so much anger right now
yes
How are they ruining the channel? They're just having a discussion 
reece's pieces
What am I doing-
What
What did they do??
won't shut up about us using the channel wrong
we were talking about something that was already on track BUT, YOU, still don't believe
despite the fact
I have read book 7
we're literally doing nothing wrong
I asked ya'll to stop because you kept saying "oh this channel hurts my head" please stop lol
it does
I wasn't talking to you but ok
And I am telling that Guest is the neighbor from future
I meant another msg
The Neighbor Is Canonically Called Mart But He Likes To Be Called TheoDore
n o
The theory you hated the most, cuz you said I didnt read the book
guys guys, want me to send all the d e n teasers
Now you cant say that
youRe huRtiNG my BrAIN FUrTher
yes
send everything
I hate it in all caps
Wouldn't that be spam
Guest is neighbor from future
I Asked FGTEEV If They Can Release New Update And Confirm His Name Is Mart But They Wont

😦
I highly believe it
ikr, that's why I'm just gonna send 3 images
thats not lore related
the other one too

Yes, it is
IT IS
read book 7
STOP
yes it is
Which is not canon
hello guest is canon
We have no proof it isn't
Hello guest is not canon what-
Sure
it's not scrapped
Is this Mya
yes
can u stop
ALPHA 2
Yes
The guest being the neighbor is canon, but hello guest the game is not canon. It's a pre alpha and NONE of the alphas are canon
ISNT CANON
what??
My braincells are dying
IT IS
hn1 isnt canon 😔
my brain hurts
?????
Nikita literally outright said HG is canon
In Alpha 1/I.5 guest literally does a lot of similar things to neighbor
they are mister
@gray dome yo wanna try to get another brain
epic lying fail
yeah
Ah okay sorry I didn't know lmao, don't come at me-
Further confirming its him
epic fail
oh boy, let me just clarify everything
doesnt teds theme play around the guest too?
alphas are indeed canon
yuh
yes
Book 7 confirms the guest being the neighbor because he outright shows it
and the screenshots are canon
"alphas are canon" okay so every house the neighbor has had in the HN1 alphas were all real and actually happened? Alright 👍
a cone
holy shit guys it's the cone
cone
its all fun and games until they change the story so that neighbor isnt guest anymore
Guest's right leg twitches when he sleeps
not the HN1 alphas 
I'm having PTSD flashbacks to the guest identity wars reading this chat 
why do i feel like they would do that
that's a placeholder!!!!!
And we are talking about hn2
Should've specified :)
Neighbor does the same thing in HN1
wouldn't be surprised
I'm gonna leave this chat
just silently raging across the world
or it turns out nikita was lying and books arent canon and the videos/screenshots are scrapped
while looking at this mess
and all the effort was gone
also just saying: this is just a what if
Better just leave without saying anything rather than being toxic about things.
hello alex
Confirming they're the same person
#hello-neighbor
this chat is a lost cause i'm going to play another game before i pop a nerve
ikr, so this is where I leave this chat
have a nice day
vido can you just delete the server 🥲
yep!
we already did that
Why does it matter who the guest is anyways
ng to hn instead of hn to ng
Like
it rose hell
wait hold on-
Drop it at that
it doesnt
finally someone smart
people are acting like u get a prize if u guess it right
The mill-
end of discussion
HN2 alphas are canon.
I just don't get why people have a stroke if you say the neighbor isn't the guest, it's dumb
But anyways
Lore
But he isnt
Thanks for clarifying then

agreed
What makes you think its NOT the neighbor
No
just let people believe what they want
Don't bring it back up
they dont have to believe that neighbor is guest
oh no
oh wait
Wether you believe the guest is Ted or not, just play devil's advocate when you discuss it with other people otherwise it'll turn into a massive fight
have i started something bad
can we just stop before this chat goes back down to the flames of hell again?
Please
anyways
Guest and neighbor are seen differently cuz Guest is neighbor, from future
lore discussion right?
everyone in this server is already going to hell for what we've done
Hm?
I don't think Neighbor is the Guest, I think it's Aaron.
no, please
dont you dare
i want to cry
true!
No clearly, it's Mya
Alright please step into the coffin <3 /j
:D
gonna find a coffin and jump into it
same
Oh ye, Aaron grew into an adult within a few days
can you take a joke
oh no
Right omg more people need to understand this
I mean, with the time loop and alternate timeline stuff it's not impossible for Aaron to be the Guest
Not likely, but it's not impossible
Oh I thought they were joking too- omfg apparently I can't tell between sarcasm
@paper shadow
why are you pinging him
hhhhh
¯_(ツ)_/¯
I think sometimes people don't have sense of humor, anyways, here I go watching this succumb into madness again, aaaa--
We don't need to ping him every time I'm sure we can sort this

Again, if y'all don't wanna talk about lore then maybe stop talking
For the love of God please stop
bad pun
The guest could be theoretically anyone. Just because it's basically been confirmed to be Theo doesn't mean people can't have their own theories. If you want to complain because someone has their own opinion on something, do it somewhere else. 
Exactly
^
alright back to the lore
no it's off topic
1 time loop could have it be bagger 1 time loop can be detectuve
Lore.
What was the conversation about again? Lol
time to get my hn books
ye
is mayak featured in book 1-3
Same
I think it's mentioned once
ok
I'm not sure if the Guest wants to get in the Mayak?? Or if he wants to destroy it
or control the mayak
Because he blows it up in the bad ending of HG? Or does he just destroy the wall?
Yeah
Probably the wall
yea
in which book
you guys want a prequel to my first lore video
This might sound crazy but what if the Guest wants to create some sort of storm/weather that attracts crows? I'm not sure why but still
yes
Mart Wilson guest real
zac efron's backstory: hello neighbor hide and seek
where?
no
Sī
yes please
wait aint that what happens in the sn mayak event
I need to learn the backstory of Zac Efron from the hit video game Hello Resident nextdoor 2
Ohhh yeah!
Maybe it's something along those lines?
maybe the guest set up the levers around the house
Was the Mayak event ever fully completed?
Oh wait wasn't that what got us the HGP password?
The secret neighbor thing never actually happens, it's just the kids planning to save Nicky so the guest can't be involved
I think it's just a hint to what the guest's plan is
but they know about the guest
Do they?
yes
Oh yeah like there's carvings around town and stuff
is that how they know or is there more?
Nikita said EVERYONE in town knows about the guest
He is an urban legend
GAAP?
golden apple amusement park
Also
what?
Hm?
Everyone knows his prized possession is Golden Apple
He keeps one in his beak right?
yes
Okay
He never lets anyone take it away
Mhm
?
Yeah
Aaaand, we think the guest could be the neighbor (depending on what people believe) so is there any connection from the golden Apple to the neighbor?
Noo shh nooooo, nooo
We dont think he could be the neighbor
He IS the neighbor
time travel 
There are a lot of hints pointing towards it even in Alpha 1.5
I know, I'm just saying that so we can avoid a war :D
We know atleast the guest from alpha 1.5 is the neighbor
As his right leg twitches in sleep
Neighbour's right leg also twitches when he sleeps in HN1
We know the guest is the neighbor, can you drop it before the war starts again
Alright
He made all the rides for the GAAP.
Maybe future Ted/NFT got addicted to them
possibly
I'm pretty sure the golden Apples that the golden Apple company sold were actually just candy
So it would make sense to get addicted
But what he has is a real one
In book 1, they said they gave real golden apples to everyone who helped build the park
So, its implied neighbor got one too
As he is the lead engineer
I guess
back now that this channel is out of hell
The tavish society ran the golden apple and we know ted knows about the cult like behaviour they have he could be using the guest costume to make people believe that there back or to scare people from leaving because of the wall they built to keep him out
The real Golden apple let's people know who the members are
Yeah
but I dont think Ted became a raven asides from like
one time
but then the device was stolen
Regardless if he is the guest in the game we know he becomes him so ether we see him become the guest at the end of the game and that leads into book 7 or he is the guest but comes out at night like they say in the devlog
yeah
I feel like the mayor has something to do with reset day
let's be honest here
I know Raven Brooks has very wacky weather but
would you really build a wall around an entire town and not allow anyone to leave for EARTHQUAKE TESTING?
If he is tavish then he definitely knows something
Fun fact i believe one of the neighbours pairents studys earthquakes and there is that teacheer you should message me so we can talk with out interuption
Sorry about spelling
its fine
and yeah
Ms Ryland
but no matter how bad Raven Brooks is weather wise
I really dont think they would build a wall around it
Message me to continue our talk
I sent a request
Message me
join the server
Me too
But he is pretending not to be a raven, but a forest protector
yeah
also dude
I made a server for making theories when this channel gets flooded with mme
memes*
or dumb theories
He wasnt exposed tho
Ppl dont know whether he was a raven

I know he wasnt exposed but I think he was still overthrown
well
I act like he's a king lol
yeah
why
But most likely he isnt
hey tiny
I really don't see the point in bringing in book elements to game elements
Hi
join the server I made
Wdym
Why
This server is enough for me
Sry if I am rude
I will join
as backup incase this server dives to the flames of hell
But not now
Alright.
I will join later
I have 3 theories on how the guest can be neighbor
Its just incase a bunch of people saying stupid theories comes
Or something else happens
- Guest is just buff neighbor who wears the costume at nights to stalk Quentin as he cannot stalk Quentin openly cuz he is wanted. ( kinda unlikely tbh. But still a possibility as we see buff neighbor throwing away guest costume)
- Guest is neighbor from future who either time travelled to the past or looped time all the way back to the 90s.
- Guest might be a clone of neighbor
Hm
2nd theory is by me 
OURS
Meee
I'm curious to know if
If?
I suggested you supported trolololol
the guest will be able to throw quentin a mile
if so
the guest isnt human
and although the original group was fake
the guest might be a real forest protector?
Im talking if tiny build keeps the guest throwing people a mile

Nobody likes the time travel theory :(, but it’s possible, since Nikita says Mr. Peterson’s age matters a lot to the story. Though they also said why Mr. Peterson goes to the park at night, and guest comes at night, and footage of him unmasked so idk.
There are hints of neighbor being guest in alpha 1.5 itself
And devs also confirmed neighbor is guest

There is only 1 guest 
alpha are not canon
Why does he go to the park and guest comes at night?
They are.
It was confirmed.
Not HN1’s Alphas, however
Alphas aren’t actually canon, but they give lore hints. I am pretty sure A 1 and 1.5 house will be scrapped since it’s a seamless game.
well
lets think about this
if the neighbor puts on the forest protector costume at night
why does he suddenly become skinny?
Yep, guest only becomes guest when he is older, since time travel theory.
logic - 100
Most likely theory.
Clone theory is kind of possible only way it could be, is because of fake neighbor, but that is it.
Tighter clothing?
I don't understand how they're canon though? By canon, are you sure that you mean that all the events from Alpha 1 and 1.5 actually happened?
I heard they were canon somewhere
somewhere
Although they probably meant “Lore hints” as Jack said
well, unfortunately that doesn't mean it was confirmed. So please don't go around saying that if you don't remember where you heard it
It's still there but I don't know if you can enter it or not
Mr Peterson owns a different bigger house
The blue house got raided by the police so now he's hiding out in a new house
what
book are other dimension conected to the game so the guest is yhe neighbor from the book
or the fake neighbor is the guest
Books are supposed to be the exact same dimension

even though the books contradict multiple game things
G-man is guest confirmed 100 percent legit half life 3 confirmed
Time travel actually would make sense for the fact that guest and buff neighbor exsist at the same time. ||Also, I don't believe reset day is the true future. A lot of people were saying it was an odd time gap and like an actual "guest world" so that could all be erased. Just a theory though. The only way it could change is through time travel, if the past effects the future. ||
Yea, the time loops could be a failed version of time travel, I am not sure fully nore on the how, or why. But it is possible.
Yet, there's still no actual proof that neighbor and guest exists at same time, like an actual proof, not just renders 
minus the fact that ted IS the guest
That’s the point, just nvm lol
people arent looking at the body frames of both the guest and ted
dude seriously
besides
peterson has a big chin
we dont see a massive bulk on the guest
That chin is how he can survive without a neck
lol
people in the HN universe all have weird heads
lol
but seriously
guest looks alot more like man in hat
and I'm tired of all this "it was confirmed" crap
the devs could be lieing
that's happened with other games
plus we dont even know whats canon
all the guest did was send piper a picture of theodore
Like I said
The guest can be theoretically anyone
Exactly
It's very likely he's the neighbor, but it's not impossible he's someone else
while he could be someone else, its about 95 percent ted
Yeah pretty much
there's nothing as making it too obvious it's ted
because who the guest is doesnt need to be lied about
by the devs
its not like its the big mystery of hn2
its just ted
its been shown in teasers, hinted at in books, shown through music, behavior, body language,

wtf thats mya
this isnt canon anymore
hello guest isnt canon
proof?
dude
oh no
so
we know
it was still a HN2 alpha
hi guys
but anything below alpha 2 isnt canon
they arent canon but the characters still are

charaters are
and this includes ted in the guest costume
but that animation isnt
they aren't fully canon, but most story elements are
that anim is a test yes
I am so sick of this
and you cant use "oh its an OLD model" because guess what
dude
I mean, technically, it is old, it's from over a yr ago
quentin, beatrix, the normal guest, guest neighbor, imbir, MIH, possibly others were from that time
In that context that is
the guest is not theodore
and they are still used
ok but HG isn't scrapped
proof?
its waaaaayyyyyyyy to obivous
which means rotm isn't either prob
how
which means ted guest
devs lie
dude nikita created HN
he made the story
so far nikita hasnt lied
its only alex, who is the CEO of tB not a dev
the devs lied when nicky was shown to be 13 (he is 90)
dude stop leaking
mate, devs do lie sometimes
Nothing is confirmed
ok show me why they would lie
my braincells hurt
name 1 time a HN2 dev has lied
I was about to ask that >:(
dude
heres the thing with ted being guest
name 1 time
why not?
for gods sake
He is actually 73 (155 in dog years)
saying alpha 2 would release in winter 
that was alex
you people are dumb
why would you choose to not accept it
alex isnt a dev
when its obvious
yeah too obvious
well you arent answering our questions
also fun fact neighbor guest has his own AI, renders, and gameplay videos based off of himself
they wouldnt do all this just so they could lie about it
also so far the devs and books have been teasing ted guest
one time nikita called the guest "the neighbor" for an entire interview. accident or not its still a little sussy!
😀 🔫
Dude that's literally Aaron
have you realized you were wrong yet
What happened?
someone saying ted isnt the guest
your mother
No proof
there is a ton of proof of neighbor guest
True true I'm sorry I'm blind 😔
LOL
there is zero proof ted isnt the guest
And they think they're right?
mate
why do people keep saying things I wanna >:(
we just gave you paragraphs of evidence and so far you havent given us any counter evidence
ill write a list right now
ted has a diffrent body fram




