#lore-discussion
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Time travel?
bEaRd
just some food for thought: in defence of the neighbour the character has kinda violated some laws, so in some regards the neighbour can sue the kid and put forward charges despite his own personal history the law is the law. ( i know his name is Mr peterson but i am bad at spelling and typing things over and over again )
He hasnt violated ANY laws
At least in the game, multiple counts of breaking and entering
In the game, Nicky breaks into his house as many times as he needs to collect the necessary items to get into the basement
Idk
HE story:
Members of the engineering club CROW search the GAAP, a traumatic place for one of them, for SCRAP METAL
But they get trapped inside by a mysterious crow like being their neighbor, Mr.Peterson
Little geniuses have to build cars, rockets, pods, roller coasters and other stuff to get out of the park
But beware the neighbor
He has BEEEG spiderlike, crowlike, humanlike robots
And they will stop you at all costs
Whatever it takes
HE stands for Hello Engineer right?
Yes
at the end of hn2 alpha 1.5, it says "How is your weather".
do you think that has to do with mayak?
Obviously
ok
Nah. Its related to FNaF
and fnaf is related to hn
and hn is related to undertale
Basë
Who was calling Nicky in Act 3?
Joe

hi
technically quentin and beatrix ain't children
The books basically make Act 1 useless.
And also slightly retcons Act 2 and 3
Since the house in the books is different from the one in the game.
They describe it having a hallway, when the one in the game doesn’t.
Plus the TV show has it different from how it’s portrayed in the games.
Just different designs I guess
Timelines
Don't know why they changed it
It sounds a bit like another house I think but I'm not sure
Thanks now let me ruin it and make it bad thanks
I have a question
Why does Nicky's friends want to break into the neighbor's house and try to save him, if they dont believe there is anything in the house?
Because their friend is stuck inside. Even if they didn’t think anything weird was going on they still wanted to save his friend
They thought their friend was making Mr.Peterson look suspicious
Then why go save him?
Probably bc he’s still their friend and they ain’t gonna leave him
I just made to chapter 11 in missing pieces and found out so much about Mr Peterson I didn’t know
The roller coaster around the house makes so much sense now!
Yea, that’s in the act 3 house though, which isn’t real and is in the mind of Nicky, just so you know, it’s the act 1 house that is in the books. 👍
oh yea i was thinking that. thanks for clarifying
Theodore
he does speak, just not in game
he talks alot in the books and tv show
well when will he swear
He used to swear in the prototype but it was removed. I think there was also a removed idle quote from Theodore where he said the b word but it was removed before SN was released to the public
I don't know if he would be allowed to swear in a 10+ game but
If he did the ratings would probably go up higher and swearing would probably be allowed here
Other than shit
I know you may be over analysing but it was just for some fun thoughts at looking at the game from a legal view (without the obvious)
In what way I broke the law?
you broke the law? ok nice
I have a question
Why does Nicky's friends want to break into the neighbor's house and try to save him, if they dont believe there is anything in the house?
oh hi watchman
“Nighty night Nicky” was probably the creepiest part I’ve read so far😭
But really good at the same time
lol
The books feel like AU’s.
Events are different, personalities are different, it doesn’t feel like it’s part of the main story.
Mr. Peterson for example.
In the game, he’s shown constantly happy until Diane’s death.
Acting like a usual father.
In the books, he acts borderline abusive to Aaron.
Aaron is another good example.
In Hide and Seek, he, along with Mya, act like 8 year olds.
In the books, Aaron acts much more mature, almost acting like an adult.
Well the game and the book are a bit different
The only time I remember seeing Aaron act like a normal child is when him and Nicky did that one fart prank-
Yes
That’s why it’s weird to play them back to back.
I guess hide and seek just uses vague simbolysm?
I mean the little of the game made the Petersons look like a picture perfect family
Also that one weird trailer where the neighbors like life flashes to the part where he has to Bury Mya
@torpid sinew so I suppose not the same writers?
Ya
Mr. Peterson was The Neighbor.
Nicky was The Kid.
Aaron was The Brother.
Mya was The Sister.
And so on.
The fact that he’s an adult makes it all the more funnier.
I guess late teen?
I mean, Nicky is 32 when Act 3 takes place.
Ya
Imagine if they made a hn doll house
And they did the old alpha's
I'd buy it tbh
There’s a plush of Mr. Peterson with the Bull mug from the Pre-Alpha.
And Prototype.
And Alpha 2.
I really want some high quality HN action figures.
Something like Marvel Legends or Figma.
hold on
this is lore discussion
Ok
How do we know that?
You know I think the first book missing pices came out at or near the same time hn h a s came out correct me if I am wrong
Nikita said Act 3 takes place in 2017.
Question: WHY, they look basically the same and have kind of the same name. It’s taunting me, yet they say they are different people
Because Ike was inspired by Quentin
Did they say that?
No but it's highly likely because of their designs
Well there are 3 possibilities. 1. I’m insane and it’s just a lot of coincidences. 2. Quentin is related to Ike. 3. Ike faked his death.
Well that’s the point of faking your death
I think the police would know it was a fake if it was.
But why would he do that, I’m sure they are just different people, but come on, why do they make them so similiar.
Quentin's mother had triplets.
Quentin
Ike
Norman Darby
That's why they all look the same.

I'm joking btw.
We don’t know what norman looks like, I mean we do, but not enough to know
Norman is Aaron’s height.
How tall is Aaron
He’s a pretty tall kid, as Nicky describes.
What if Quentin is Ike son
that would be crazy
Probably not, since Quentin is old at the time of act 2, so he’s probably too old to be his son.
He's 14 but 41 at the same time
yes
they do that a lot
its annoying
like giving MIH and cleave similar designs and the same thing with the 2 cops and stuff, yet having both cops be different people and cleave going to prison or whatever with one of them

I have always had this question
Why did Nicky's friends wanted to save him?
If they believe that nothing is there in Mr.Peterson's house
technically they don't even know is he actually in Neighbor's basement
based on sn
you can see how they are planning to "save" him
it's more like the game for them
one of them literally fell asleep
then their mom called for a dinner, and s/he's like "ight guys, next time we'll save the Nicky for sure, but not today hah"
Why do they even want to save Nicky
They thought that Nicky is making the neighbor look SUS
He's still there friend?
Yea, Quentin and Ike take this to the extreme
the thing is though, in order for there to be an illustration in the book by that artist, they would have had to have been shown concept art or something of a character so why would they give them character designs of a specific character and it have no relation/meaning at all
Guys, quentin is bruh
Gavin's model looks creepy
I dont think Ike and Quentin are related
Which is the best HN book in your opinion?
notebook
funny book
It isnt funny
thats a very early version
If your friend gets kidnapped wouldn't you wanna save him
dinner is more important
Because his friends thought Nicky was making the neighbor look suspicious
But he was still kidnapped
If he got kidnapped by the neighbor, that proves he was right about everything
How do they know he was kidnapped?
Because he goes missing and had plans to go in his basement or whatever
agreed
And ted is the only person who would kidnap him
but technically
nobody knew he was going to basement
they don't know
he never told anybody about it
and again, bc town dumb, he couldve just ran away from trouble
They could have easily thought that Nicky ran away to put the blame on Mr.Peterson
Or make the neighbor look sus
Ok well you hear carnival music coming from teds locked up basement why Not search it
Nobody
Heard
Nicky did
What about the others
They dont live next to the guy
carnival music?
more like
fake washing machine sounds
Yeah but they could be walking past teds house or looking around and then the music starts playing
Like, it was pretty loud
Which did not happened
You don't know that
But music plays only in middle of the night
u dont know that either
They walk past teds house on the way home from wherever they were in the AS so
Also yeah they were talking about why they wanted to search ted's house in the AS
Remember the board and Aaron and stuff
As not canon. Plus, bc they walk past doesnt nessecarily means they heard anything
AS isnt canon
Also ted boarded up his house
its a pilot
WC PD: the dude's an odd duck
Episode 1 is canon because it’s finished.
Until we get confirmation that none of that stuff happened then it's canon. Usually the first episode of a show is a recreation of a pilot
there is no episode 1
Is it?
Yes? Also Carly wrote it, so it’s connected to the books
Why tho
if there is an episode 1, link it
But in AS neighbor straight up kidnaps Nicky
Again it's not out yet
They haven't found anyone to air it
Ok
Episode 1 can be done but unreleased
If that weren't the case, shows would never be done
This is the full 22-minute pilot of the Hello Neighbor Animated Series. Join our Youtube Club for behind the scenes updates! Make sure to checkout Hello Neighbor 2 at https://HelloNeighbor2.com
#neighbor #HelloNeighbor
most likely by the way
We dont even know what episode 1 is about
dats pilot. not episode 1
episode 1 might be ready
It's prob a recreation of the pilot like most shows do
A pilot is episode 1 :/
It's not
no?
But they could change it
Usually pilots and episode 1 are different but sometimes episode 1 is a remake of the pilot
Idk it's confusing
But that is not episode 1
The pilot isnt matching with the games tho
Nothing is
They said this was just a teaser for a HN cartoon project. They even said the show might not take place in the same moment as Pilot
Alex said they will rework it
Act 1 happened during the rain in the books
no it isnt
in AS neighbor straight up kidnaps Nicky
a pilot is a test episode to test if companies want to pick up the show or not
Alex said they are working on other episodes. Pilots, not always, but usually are the first episode, and it‘s this case here, because they are gonna work on other episodes, so no a pilot isn’t episode 1, but as most cases, it is in this case.
sometimes theyre ep1 but usually they are not
So... U say Pilot is ep 1, but Pilot isnt ep 1... Wat?
It's a test ep
I am saying it is episode 1 in this case
lol pilot isnt episode 1 get trolled
They never confirmed it's episode 1, reminder that I'm just speculating
they didn't liked that pilot very lore based, because pilot was from Carly. they need that person, that can do good scenes (that's what Alex said, whatever this suppose to mean)
back in august
You said it was a few weeks ago lol
wtf
Nice Gave
no i did not?
i didnt even send the messages
u did
You said “Cartoon is canon”
how though
holy shit you did
the cartoon, not the pilot
you just spammed in whole chat
those are 2 different things
We were talking about the pilot lol
i sent one message and it duplicated
10 times
Neighbor depressed?
neighbor defying physics
he wants to eat
this is lore discussion
he fell on the other chair
- the pilots script was thrown together without really thinking and stuff
but he can't because devs removed that feature
l o r e d i s c u s s i o n
NOOOO!!
did you know double speed really means double speed
iirc that is
My OG question was Why did Nicky's friends wanted to save him?
so true
Is this
brave? I didn’t know who it was, besides the cap, it doesn’ look very much like her
This got morphed into whether pilot is canon or not
pilot isnt canon 
Shhh
Answer this
its even called a test pilot
script was from Carly, they didn't liked the style she did for pilot
because he literally vanished
So he doesn’t, like die or something
canon
The script doesn’t really fit their personalities very well at all, and Carly wrote the book, so idk what’s going on.
They could have thought he ran away to put the blame on neighbor
great. A whole 5 minutes thing
how
It's every time maritzs talks or makes a sound
that's what Alex said, idk anything
they want the dude who can work good on animated series
Carly is good for books
ill be the cheetah
how old she is
Neighbor made Nicky look sus
like 10 or 9 i think
What
her voice is very deep for 10 years old girl
shes 12 in the AS
Sure it has some humor, but the fact their personalities are wrong, and the humor doesn’t really work very well, it makes it a little weird in contrast to the books, I guess Carly wanted it to be for kids still, but there are other ways.
WHAT
All of their voices sound like they are 20
She is 10 tho
whatever
True
from 10 to 12
shes not 10
She is
she is 10 in the books, wasnt she?
WHATever
not in the nicky trilogy
yes?
she was 11 or 12
That’s how it works, for some reason when ever kids are involved, they must be played by older actors lol
she's 19
they never said that
They say that
uh... they did
They are in the same grade, so 11 or 10
even then mya would be 11 if she was alive by act 1
why did i started this
bc Rertare
so maritza 11
Oh yeah
Maritza is 11
good.
But she’s not 
I hope Mya's ghost appears in HN2
j-man :trollface:
Mya is actually 60 (she is young Ms Tillman (the guest))
so pilot is not canon
No
yes
no
i refuse to believe ghosts as canon to the series
this series is complicated enough as it is
how tf the guest so strong
someone secret neighbor
am i the only one who thinks the kids sound like kids?
Bosco bay
#lfg-pc
?
Ya
i dont recall dat...
dats graphic novel 2
yeah
Jxjfjjf
in this one, i can guess neighbor "drives them out of town"
i think he is actually kidnapping them
Well if i get it he caught them somewhere and then took them as a storm is coming
These kids were trying to leave town
leaving Raven Brooks 1 to Raven Brooks 2
This could take place after act 2? As he already looks kinda uh
Well he looks like he got older
I dont think he is even legally free to roam
Yet he dose all this
Whats the deal with ravens'brook?
Well it had a curse on it
Also just has a lot of bad history
But like, Whats the deal?
Wdym?
Whats the deal with the curse thingo
Brings bad luck
Who cursed
The forest protectors
A secret society of men who dress up as birds
One of them being the ex mayor
Truly
remember back when neighbor did a pact with devil?
The one who was nog simming?
Wait actually...
What was the puzzle masters whole shtick
One of the rare people who knew the truth
Ah yes
Wait...
If I'm correct
Hn2 alpha 1.5 has those nests
Wasn't it like that the forest protectors would build nests where they had stuff in them?
yeah, but im pretty sure these are just gameplay purpose
Eh they don't really hold anything to major to gameplay
Just the camera rope
Uhh
And i think that is all?
Yeah?
Exactly
he was aware of the unusual events in the town, and sent crossword puzzles to the banner, which were specifically made for aaron to figure out. the crossword puzzles gave messages to aaron, and they eventually met up
Woah, I was JOKING
It does, cuz a huge storm happens sometime after Act 2 which causes evacuation
And i suppose that dosn't explain why the neighborhood is a wasteland
Uh?
Yeah
Though it is just an alpha
But Alpha 2 looks very lively tho
So, the storm should have happened some time after Alpha 2
Then again i suppose alpha 1.5 was just a little taste of what to expect
Also the neighbors house will change
Yeah
Not sure about that
Well it dose have a garage
Thats the neighbor's new mansion
Dam
Which is across the street from our office
You would have known this if you seen the pre show and AI trailer a little clearly
Blue house is looking more like it did in HN1
ai trailer has almost every scene in the gray manor map
Except the basement
yeah
Ye
when he gets out of basement
Outside, I guess?
you can see there's like
Maybe it's like a trash shoot?
actually
So we fall into the trash
lemme get the trailer things
Could be
you can see under the trees there's like an empty zone so it most likely takes you outside there
[New to the discussion]
That is Grey Manor for sure
obviously
tho wtf is on the left
that close?
Well a town
i see only pixels
I thought that Grey Manor was kinda isolated from the rest of Raven Brooks tbh
It could be a water tower
No, our office is just across the street from the manor
I mean the layout of the house changes in the books and game
Its clearly not isolated
all these houses
Not that much
they look bad
They are just imcomplete
i hope
Yeah
that uh
those houses are not detailed
Ye
while this one near manor is
You posting so many Raven Brooks photos, I'm starting to wonder if you got Alpha 2 early
no heck they are
i have alpha 10 real no fake real
looks like this map is very new
not like gaap map
which is most likely detailed as heck
The map might take shape more into a town
Maybe that can be Quentin's house
X Doubt
He already has an office across the street from the manor
What role is Beatrix gonna play though
But he has to have a place to live
woman
Nynxjd
zone looks cool
Wayron Croobs Rimmor 4TV to be exact
yeah who cares
nice grass
Is that his house? no
well he's there most of the times
Of course it isn't
mfw
How do you know?
he most likely lives in the rimmor for investigating
awesome grass
cus that's in front of neighbor house
he investigates neighbor so he's there
True
But he has to have a place to sleep
Maybe his house is out of Raven Brooks
#lore-discussion, the place where we try to find out where Quentin lives
Or maybe he lives in WCR building
yeah
maybe in this door there's a bedroom
Cuz thats his office
(this)
I really like the new door model
same
door
this means nothing
same
Its hello neighbor,
Door
i asked how did this happened that WCR is exactly in front of manor
dOOR
Door™️
His office is across the street from the neighbor's house and that makes Mr.Peterson his neighbor
door
no he meant
canonically why
how do they know neighbor's there
Devs wanted to make Mr.Peterson , Quentin's neighbor
at all, why exactly in front of
BOI can't wait for a2
Thats why his office is acroos the street from neihgbor's house
is that the wcr building antenna
Might be
technically i understand why
And thats the mouth of Raven borooks
i can't be the only one that sees a resemblance to the de n
The outskirts of Raven Brooks
most likely
k
it is
You can see the big Sign
that's another video
Wait, is that- Hello Neighbor 72??????
Its the same place
here
still
Hello Neighbor fans when Big Eyeball
nice pixels
Mayak
Kayak
Kayaking in Raven Brooks
That truck's shape tho
I dont understand
SM_Truck
Uh?
not really
it's mostly hn1 truck
i idk
LmAO
That's the final design what are you talking about?
2 cubes + 4 circles = Final design
Okay lets get back to the topic
obviously
Crow on truck. Guest truck?! 😳 😳 😳
"The whole Neighborhood is suspicious"-Nikita Kolesnikov
Guest truck pog
sus
Guest truck is the best thing in existence
also what i have noticed is they might use these for village and the hn2a1.5 poles for town
these are the hg ones
When will Hello empathy (guest's late neighbor shift) come out
what
Why are they not saying what empathy is?
When will the Hello guest launch trailer release. 😢
End of this year
October 2021 (totally not the placeholder steam page date)
October 202020202020122
real (alex porkchop said it to m e)
Why is hello guest annoucement trailer not in HN2 playlist.
why is Hello guest site still a thing.
Alex Porkchop
why do i exist
hgp quen
yez
Who is Alex Porkchop ?
Hello guest is actually it's own game and being developed secretly as a surprise
Nikita told me
Not a chance
the den
The den
ohhh
The den
Den as in den
ohh
Who is Alex Porkchop ?
okay are you for real or you just weren't trained enough to understand jokes
I was joking
Den, where the wild animal, the guest, rests for hibirnation
But why do you call him Porkchop?
ddd
Porkchop funny word
imagine talking about lore lmao
Alex Porkchop= HN lore
DED
jokes on you den uses hn2 placeholder materials sooooooo
Does the den belong to the Guest?
den + d = dend;
dend - d = end;
no
Nah
anything else
it belongs to the Visitor
den is end
no that's the intruder
Wonder when we'll get another alpha/beta of the park, or never.
i wonder when are we getting den alpha
since it uses some hn2 stuff
i re ally need i t
most likely never
den alpha coming 2099
Until full game
looks like very spoilery part of the game
ah right you're jman
If they were to do another alpha/beta of the park, it would probably just be hga1 with new models and fixed textures, and maybe a new ending.
mayak ending ❤️
i guess park has multiple endings
funicular panic room
funicular mayak
cafe that leads to kidnapped to den
Hnmm
jokes
Is this true
Is it
Is he a dev
book are canon
Alex Porkchop
Yes
what
How
notebook
Notebook
Thats true
One question why
The Peterson's secret recipe soup thing
Guide is supposed to be canon to the game
canon
🤢
HN1a1 smooth walk

cannon
Mr.Peterson has 4 names
Plot twist: Guest is actually just checking in on Beatrix to throw up her dead cat he ate.
1.The Neighbor
2.The Guest
3.The Visitor
4.The Intruder
this zone is so sad
it's just a shed behind a broken cafe
This place didnt even appear in game
with mixer but i guess that's not importannt
i can spawn it in game 😎
I mean, it looks cool
The cafe kinda looks similar to DEN but smaller
Uh?
.
Can't wait for the park to be even more expanded in full game.
How?
caf
E
e
ha
Gurd hous
yes
According to books park shouldnt even exist in HN2 tho
thre's also cafe stairs on the top
What is that
cafe piece in den
oh really
Thats this one
Yes
You sent only half of the map
Books and games are different.
Many differences
I just wish it wasnt different
In books it's destroyed.
In games it's just abandoned
True
only way to make it different is ask to Nikita rewrite all the books
well destroyed too
I mean, HG can take place before Act 1
Yeah?
q
Shed
Oh,yeah the Guest is there
What place is this?
Giant guard house in the ground
Somewhere
GAAP?
Idk
i guess it-s not in raven brooks
neither in the GAAP
How?
It's just somewhere. That's all we can say
It has to be in Raven Brooks
smexy
Wait the furnicular is in the den, isnt it?
How do we know that?
Uh?
d
Doesn't the funicular lead to mayak?
xd
Float
i can't
mfw
Guest and the player will race to mayak in their funiculars.
den is cancelled
wdym
No
there are doors in fullhouse
I know this might be a stretch, but I think this game will have a lot of windmills.
i guess pinwheels
There aint any windmills there tho
Arent those flowers?
No..
blind
Oh... at first I thought they were flowers
pinwheels
I'm confused, the funicular leads to mayak, but also leads to den?
How do we know that giant building is called the den?
Files
Is it in the files?
two funiculars
like hn2
I thought it was a photo
one leads to mayak one leads to den
for some reason i thought this is
Quentin's house, Neighbor's, Beatrix's
too fancy
Got confused since in HGa1 they both lead to mayak
There's no den tho
Why is Beatrix's van in the den?
So, what is this thing
Very cool
rumble on the funny
I mean it doesn't look like the big one
i guess that's den too
i mean
rumble on the mill
Which design is better?
second one imo
This one looks more like Act 3 house'
Giant shovel on windmill
act 3 house in rea?
how.
I said it LOOKS like that
i mean
Me too
at the end of the day it's just guardhouse and a building
factory?
Fac
boiler from hn1
no swearing
Which factory
I guess its GA factory
I like it to be
behind neighbor house i guess
that's the only factory in game
This one looks nothing like that one tho
Is it that hard to make a cabinet for a wall?
You missed HE
HE is the best ^
How?
I like 1
looks pretty good
There's another one in the reveal trailer
but to go all in all, golden apple is an amusement park located in a forested area in tarnished raven brooks with many areas and mountains.
Yeah
Fake Neighbor.
Wdym
Are there furniculars running all over the town
And where do they lead to?
wait where is the 2nd one from?
hgp
What house?
Is there furniculars only in the park or around the town?
Park only.
logden payoll
they are teasing it all up 😳
I still have hope
omg
anyways, tbh, HE's models are clean and pretty good
meanwhile Enzo long neck

