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Hm... Prob not the detective from Germany
I would say he is Norman Darby, but Norman is described as, as tall as Aaron and big hands, none of which is a quality of Mith.
No
Hm...
He did try to take Beatrix/Quinton in his car but then the guest showed up and they thought... Though that isn't really Canon huh
In Alpha 2 he’s seen kind of with the police, but also hiding from them in the ai trailer.
Currently i feel like he's the G man of hn
And just like hl he's everywhere but just out of sight
I mean heck
I found him in the house
He has a clone in alpha 1.5 lol
Byjjxxh
He also appears in the front screen when you beat the game
Looking at the kids hidden in bushes
The height thing could be checked. Get Aaron’s model and put it next to MitH’s model.
Well I used to think Norman was Mith, until I realized Norman is too short.
MitH is an abbreviation of Man in the Hat.
Smith is also an abbr. by being a fan name
Who is Smith.
I mean he was fighting with him in the extended HG ending
Yeah, and MITH doesnt have any hair whereas Darby has shabby hair
Tbf we haven't seen MitH without his hat... have we?
It could be just laziness that they didn't model it
Since we're not normally supposed to see into it
No, he has tiny bits of hair like the neighbor's beard
Very tiny
Whats it called? ingrown hair
Fake Neighbor
Technically he has the full head there
Did the mustache guy die in a car crash
what
- What mustache guy? 2. If you’re talking about Mr. Peterson, then no
Lore
So true
it's not dog water, it's wet dog fur soup with a side of pee.
Sprinkled with some premium cat diarrhea.
burnt and soggy
What, Buried secrets is one of my favorites
waking nightmare is worse
hello
Okay, I am not a fan of waking nightmare
But buried secrets is a good book tho
Chat is DED
I'm gonna do a poll real quick
Which is the best book
Missing Pieces-
Waking Nightmare-
Buried Secrets-
Bad Blood-
Grave Mistakes-
Puzzle Master-
Reset Day-
I noticed a picture of Nicky on this news paper in the Hello Neighbor 2 AI trailer, I'm not sure if this means that Hello Neighbor 2 takes place after act 1.
Yeah that could be it.
But if it was an old paper, then Nicky should have already escaped or been rescued by the squad.
And if it was right after he went missing, then why has Mr. Peterson aged so much?
HN2 is after Nicky's escape
Thats why the police arrive
Yeah that makes more sense, I just kinda had the time line a little messed up.
But Aaron and Mya are still missing
For obvious reasons.
Yeah
Squad didnt rescue him
In one of the books, I don't remember, but Nicky was in the basement and he was with Aaron in some kind of basement amusement park.
It was all just imaginery
Yes
Book 3
So is secret neighbor not canon?
It is canon
But it was just imagination of the kids
Oooh ok
They never really broke into the neighbor's house
So the ending of act 2 is what really happened?
Yes
But Act 2 itself is distorted
Yes, It's made clear with the giant house and tall fence.
Yeah
Why is that?
But when it officially releases it will be canon
Hm, yeah I see.
am i the only one who would poop my self if i played this at night?
scared
Which game
hello neighbor
Hmmmm
It isnt THAT scary
Honestly, I was never really scared of the game or neighbor himself.
HN2 will be wayyyyy scarier than HN1
ur like my sister
Um, ok
ima try to download it
the alpha 1.5
Its just in Alpha
I hope we get Alpha 2 later this summer.
wait
I have high hopes for this game even if I won't be able to play it 😅
Alpha and full release?
Wdym
ive heard of alpha 1 2 3 and 4
yes
but never the full game
Uh?
Could you be a little more specific?
Why?
kinda stopped playing
Why?
Okay
and my psn account ran out
Wdym
play station now
oh
it included hello neighbor
I forgot HN was on there
And if you want to continue this discussion go to #hello-neighbor
It is in the same universe
And Alpha 2 itself has a lot of connections to the first game
Elaborate
Wdym
Do you have an example?
Like the layout of the blue house is the same as it was in HN1
There are missing posters of Nicky,Aaron and Mya
The town itself look similar to the first game
With a few changes, yes.
Yes
I mean, after act 2 we had a huge time skip, maybe Hello Neighbor 2 takes place during that?
yep
Yes
Mostly it is
We don't know yet
Yeah.
I mean Nikita said HN2 takes place when Nicky was a kid
But Mr. Peterson looks older and (not to be rude😅) more in shape.
Yes
As well he's still a kid in act 2
Yes
so as you can see...
See what
Ok so HN Hide and seek happens just before act 1
A year before
Spin off
Which makes no sense
Why?
and no, it's not a spin off lol

In the books theres a chapter where Nicky stacks boxes and gets into the basement, I'm guessing that was act 1?
stack boxes....
Stacks boxes on book shelf
Just like we do in HN1
Kinda stupid to mention this but k
Yeah and in the book that event takes place a year after the disappearance of Aaron and Myah
So yeah it is indeed a year after.
Makes no sense
I really love it gives an explanation to box stacking
Why?
Because then this means that Neighbor waited for a one year for Nicky
like Mya died
Aaaand
boom 1 year of ..... What
How about read the books.
Investigations
Even a raid
and Nicky for a one year didn't even thought about to see what's happening there
Would I have to read books 4,5, and 6 or can someone give me a rundown of those books
for a one hecking year he didn't even thought about it
And only then
You have to
Atleast book 7
I’ve read book 7 and books 1,2 and 3
He did think about it, in book 2 it's pretty much the center of the plot.
This literally makes no sense
games are even not mentioning all this
Is book 7 apart of another trilogy or is it a stand alone?
Neighbor lied to the town that his kids are living in a town far away
How important is it? 
Kinda
With their aunt
Hs ended in May, then after few months in July-August - act 1 starts
It was Nicky and his friends who proved the town they are missing
Book 7 is still taking place in the same story as the other books but sets up the HN2 story
Yes but Act 1 coud have taken place July-August of the next year
Ooh thanks
We still dont know that
I just said it makes no sense
It does make sense if you read guidebook
bruh
No thanks
I'm not going to read this thing

I'd better to read all books than this guide book
Guidebook says Nicky moved into town a year before Act 1
Books are a big part of the lore, if you're just going off of the knowledge the game provides, then of course it won't make sense.
Yeah the game doesn’t do a great job at lore telling
It did
The games don't even talk about Lucy.
Yeah there’s many things left out that requires the player to read books to get the full story
I don't have to?
Nobody says you have too.
It looks like you are forcing me to do that
I didn’t say u had to I just said in order to get the full story
You dont have to
He just said that if you want to know more than reading the books is mandatory.
I got full enough story from the games
Look this is supposed to be lore discussion.
Yeah
Secret neighbor characters
I mean in the actual story.
Do they ever play a part aside from Secret Neighbor?
No
Are they even real 😳
Yes they are real
Ok yeah dumb question😅 It's just that you said Secret Neighbor's events are imaginary, and we've never read anything about those two characters sooo.
Bagger?
And scout.
Forgot about him oops.
Yes it is imaginery
It is the imagination of those kids
Lemme explain
Secret neighbor developers took 3 kids from the books
Brave, Detective and Leader
Yes
Then they created 3 new kids
Just for the game?
Yep
I mean they did say they are part of the lore
Different universe?
No, just messed up lore
Or just imagination
Every thing is same universe
I hope we get to learn more about those characters.
In the guidebook there was like a page in where different comments were given on Nicky
There were names of Enzo and Maritza
And Trinity
Woah really?
Who said they owe something to Nicky
Chloe might be scout
They might be them
Cheung could be inventor
But we dont have official confirmation
I hope they reveal their names sometime
Doubt
That would be pretty cool.
Carly didn't planned them at all
:sadge:
Yeah
Do they'll appear out of nowhere in the books
I mean they could be minor friends of Nicky
So just for clarification, the guest is Mr Peterson right? Or is it unconfirmed?
It is confirmed in Book 7
Wait really?
Yes
Ahh I see cause I wasn’t 100% sure if that ending was a conformation or not
Also whats up with the Crow people that build the big nests?
Myth
I thought they found a nest though.
Yes he is
Yes they did
It’s just weird how the neighbor seems to be locked up by the guest only for it to be him
Only to find its a fake out
Ooh
It was confirmed long time ago
but just because of very smart people
they thought that this is old and not canon
Ppl thought it could be a place holder
Dang I completely missed out on that twitter post
But the body types are completely different.
Thats got an explanation
Could you summarize it?
Summarize what?
The explanation
And head yeah? And costume 
Guest is old neighbor
Like, elderly?
Yes
Hm, I could see that.
Thats why he is skinny
We even have a model for him in the files
NFT
Skinny neighbor
I’m just confused as to how like in the ending to the HN2 alpha 1.5 how it seemed as though the neighbor was trapped but he’s in fact the guest?
Alphas arent canon
Not all of it
How do you know
Only its elemats are symbolic
Okay so you are telling the town from Alpha 1.5 is gonna be in full game
yes
Impossible
What is guest world?
Wdym
He exists only in his world
There's an actual world, Raven Brooks and etc
And "Guest world"
we know that this exists
But no more
How do we know about it?
Neighbor is only in real world
And Guest is only in Guest world
Neighbor is the guest
But sometimes this happens that Neighbor by using his car going to Guest world
Book 7 takes place in real world, how is guest there then?
Guest world hasnt even been confirmed
I mean, some of the Alpha houses we're in the full release.
How does he get there?
Just open the damn files
And type "GuestWorld"
I think he meant it as in not being a actual different world
Not it not being in the files
Clouds in a1.5 are called "GuestWorld"
Neighbor has scripts to teleport to "other world" and "guest world" by using his car
Idk about it at all
I still think guest world means where the guest resides.
How is the guest in the real world then?
we didn't saw him yet in real world 
The books dude
Book 7
again?
Yes
Yeah 100% not canon
I know that in book 7 Enzo and Trinity had a kid while they were 15 years old
So idk, sorry
16
oh that changes a lot
We dont know what the laws in Raven Brooks are
Dude
I mean it's in Missouri.
There is
Besides stuff we already know
Only topic all talking about is Who is Guest and old art style was good
The seven books rn: 😐
Which has been talked about already
Not like mith exists
Forgot about him
Literally no one talk about him
Oh, right, my bad.
Poor mith
Has no fans
Whats his involvement with the whole situation?
He actually hides behind the news paper like a second after 😂
No, I mean the devs like to hide him
This is the second time he is not hidden
imagine mith is actually one of the german investigators from the books
Oooh yeah like at the end of alpha 1
Hmmmmm
What about
why Guest world exists, what is this
who the hell Quentin, Beatrix, why they appeared out of nowhere
why Quentin at same time reporter and park guard
who is man in the hat, why his has is very similar to the hn1 hat
why man in the hat * insert 10 questions about him *?
Oooooh
It's a possibility. 🤷♂️
Yeah
The first time we see MITH not hidden is HG ending
Second time is AI trailer
Yeah so no one cares about all this questions, as I said
I hope Hello Neighbor 2 will have a more story than the first one.
All other times he is always hidden
What questions
Guest world
I think Beatrix is canon
Could be
No shit she is
Guest is world, Quentin and Beatrix are people looking for money, Quentin has two jobs, mith is someone.
So Quentin is very poor so he had to work on both works at same time
😔
Wishlist video
He's also depressed and chubby. But he can't afford a gym so he works two jobs.
😔
Meanwhile Beatrix is somewhere
Waiting
For her time
My bad, I must have my sources a little messed up.
We dont really know if he has two jobs
Joke
(the fact that he's guard in hg and reporter in hn2)
He has different models for both jobs tho
Why?
Why didnt they just give him one model?
You mean guard in hn2 and reporter in hn2. 
a
they why they spent so much time making unique animations for him
It was an Alpha, maybe they just didn't know what direction to take.
Maybe that's why alpha 2 still didn't released
They want to show something new
so they delayed it to make something different
But at same time they don't want to spoil HG park
Like at all
They even are not talking about Beatrix
I hope there's more than neighborhood and park.

The park has the park

the floor is floor
😂
Um what?
She's to powerful for the story so she's not canon
Lore discussion
Neighbor literally opened Nikita's PDF file with HN story and removed everything Brave related
Ah whatever.
the problem is
There's nothing to talk about
only stupid theories
and one eye

👄
That's why there's an eye on the Mayak
that's why Beatrix is have to get on top of the mountain
she wants to get her eye back
Fnaf and hn have one major thing in common.
green eyes
Literally green
Green eyes
Green park
Green sky
gren
gren what's your problem gren
- destroying keyboard *
So basically FNAF is canon
Bite of 87, Beatrix gets her eye bitten out by a weird crow statue thing.
Why is there Guest statue in GAAP
What, no
How is he the mascot
In the games he's the mascot.
In the books the apple is
Golden apple is the mascot
In the books
Why there's an eye 
Thats a crow head
Not guest's head


First of all
Cough SN tickets cough
Why is he called as"The Guest"
Because he's the guest
He is called as visitor in the files
Guest(visitor(intruder))
Stop JOKING
^
What is fr
France
Guest originally called like that
Then in the files they renamed him to Visitor
And tinyBuild's merch site says he's Intruder
Oh
Hey
There's Guest world
so
That's why he's Guest/Visitor
Ohhhhhhhhhhhh
Yeah
Intruder, tho, sounds like he's an enemy
He IS an enemy
nah
i mean
depends
Guest and Visitor didn't sound like he is an enemy
Will Guest even be in game
no
already is
Guest is not canon
No
yes
Oh
daamn
I mean will he become the guest in HN2
no they just modelled the guestbor for fun
Dont confuse neighbor with the guest
Even tho they are the same person
They are different characters
true
how could i forget such thing
Why does Neighbor have a beard in HN2
He didnt have one in HN tho
Why give him a beard in HN2
with low res textures
hn2 is high poly game with 4k textures
so they can add a beard
Hi!

listen up, hello neighbor is our neighbor
impossible.
They prob gave the neighbor a beard as he didn't have time to shave
Isn't he kinda on the run
Howdy lore Discussion channel
pretty important imo
they tell us a lot
Such as?
its hard to explain without saying
I remember when this was put out there, I was tripping out. I think that was December?
Because he's older shaved, it's not really a beard just more like a what's it called, something shadow?
5 o'clock shadow
In grown hair
But its more of a beard
If it was a beard it would be more hairy and we wouldn't see his chin swirl tho
Or more like he is growing a beard
But it's not fully a beard yet
But he wont continue his beard tho
He will only have a mustache
I know that's why I said he probably shaves
Yeah, cuz NFT doesnt even have that small beard
Beard.
beard
Wait, like stubble?
Do you guys not know whAt facial hair is?
No they don't 
wait if our neighbor is our neighbor, does that mean our neighbor neighbor is our neighbor?
yes.
Can we talk about how inconstantly Mr. Peterson has been portrayed?
In the games, it’s shown he became how he is in HN1 after Mya died.
Meanwhile in the books, he’s been like that since they moved to Raven Brooks.
welcome to Hello Neighbor lore
where's books telling totally different stories about same characters
Nicky at all moved to RB after Neighbor's family
I know
even tho HS shows totally different
“Nicky is playing with his beach ball, when he notices a strange sound coming from his Neighbor’s basement.”
And the games show Mr. Peterson actively trying to get you to get out of his house.
Meanwhile the books have Mr. Peterson luring Nicky in.
i don't think Nicky at all tried to get in the house
Neighbor caught him near to the window and closed in that room from act 2
and everything he saw after the caught was his dream(fear or something else that is not real)
kinda makes sense
Neighbor knew Nicky saw something
so like, Neighbor is not that stupid
Nikita confirmed Act 1 is entirely real.
stop repeating "Nikita said, Nikita confirmed..."
can't you just think about the whole situation logically
Neighbor saw that Nicky had witnessed his actions.
So Nicky can tell his parents or the police about the strange behavior of Neighbor.
So Neighbor can't just let him go, he needs to lock him in the basement, too.
that's why Nicky wakes up in act 2. everything was not actually happened.
like act 2. Main events are actually happened, but mostly everything was not real (because Nicky doesn't remember everything correctly, as Nikita said)
Not since he moved
He got crancky after many of his parks got accidents
That just got worse after half his family died
okay
It’s a dragon break
Nicky never got caught in the books in the intro sequence.
He just ran away
Sonic speeds
lmao literally opposite universes
But in the last version in hello neighbour 2, mr Peterson was supposedly trapped in the attic but now he plays with the guest watching so what happened there?
Like I said, dragon break
Hey, there supposed to be the same person, so I have no idea what’s going on lol.
When I decided to re-enter this server, I started to accept that
''no matter what anyone believes, it can be whatever they think, after all, fabrications may even be true for manydon't mind if something is bothering you. let it go''
where on wikipedia did you find that quote?
I couldn't find it anywhere, I made it up myself
???
Everything is canon.
ur wrong
Oh yeah?
yeah
No I’m not.
yes you are
No I’m not.
yes you are.
No. I am correct.
No. I am correct.
- in mocking tone “No. I am correct.”
Listen buddy, I’m right
“Everything is canon” developer admin guy
i never said anything about being a dev, nor me being any better than you
Not everything is cannon
the TV show isn't cannon
secret neighbor isn't cannon
hello engineer isn't cannon (so far)
EVERY SINGLE alpha and beta isn't cannon
the large act 3 house was just a dream
None of these games would have happened if nothing were canon
I think Nikita meant anything finished and released is canon.
Obviously
Well some people take it wrong oof.
Yeah like they can go far as saying literally anything in the world is HN canon
It was a drean
no
it was literaly shown on screen that it was a dream
Self therapy
Nikita said nothing is a dream
Act 3 was literal trauma!
No, Act 2 is trauma
yea trauma in a dream
"Cmon people we all here are better than that"
Act 3 is self therapy
If its happening in your mind, it doesnt mean its not real
Did I start a war?
Sorry bout that, poor punctuation. “Everything is canon” - Admin developer guy
No that was me.
i believe it now, that everything is cannon
i just don't understand how
the neighbor should be dead by act 3
Dead?
Hes still alive
Shouldn’t he be like, retired
he would be so old
but in the DREAM the neighbor hasn't aged
What dream
is hn pulling a fnaf and saying the mayak can alter peoples perseption on things?
He's 70 in act 3
So?
we don't know that
Actually that’s old
I was assuming he was 40 + 20 for act 3
He was late forties in Act 1
Ok that makes sense
It was even said by Nikita in Qna
I do, I literally have facial hair I have to shave it off and im only going to be 15 next month.
Could ve because they didn't make a new model of him, idk
No he cant
Neighbor made him look sus before Act 1
No one believes him
In the books
Then you say books arent canon
Everything is canon
lol
Oh no
anything but that, please
Hi
Hey, I am new to hello neighbor and I was wondering if anybody could tell me where to start finding lore.
wdym like where you can find out about the hello neighbor lore
oh well
well you got some more to go
you need to play hn1 and hide and seek at least
that's minimum, but more than enough.
you can read also books if you want to find out something more
ye hide n seek is good if you wanna learn his past
Ok thank you
Hide and seek is telling a lot about Neighbor's past
But to understand everything clear you'll need to think about all events in the game
really all u need to play is hn1 and hn2
once hn2 comes out
we're told the basics of hs via hn1 nightmares
but hs tells us some stuff
There are no dreams in hn :0.
he didn't said dreams
nightmare is a dream
still
well whatever those things are
Yea idk, they aren‘t memories, and they aren’t dreams, what are they???
either way we still learn of the Neighbors past a bit
Well, despite being in Nicky’s body in the “dreams”, they represent Aaron’s memories, not Nicky’s that’s why we are pushing Mya.
wh
Oh yea I forgot.
one small detail changes everything
This means Aaron told Nicky of mya’s death in Act 2 probably.
In Act 1, there is one of the mom’s death, which Nicky knows of. In Act 1, Nicky saw Mr. Peterson digging, so the digging one makes sense.
which then makes no sense
because in act 2 he just opened the door and ran away
not helped Nicky at all
and even abused him
by distracting Neighbor on ourselves
while he can ran away as well
even without the hecking books
there's still confusing moments in the game
? Your sentances aren’t being finished lol
wha
Also, do they know mya is dead in reset day, or is that not known?
nicky
cuz technically she's missing
because book 3 is canon cry about it
oh well also this boy with a very bad memory and realistic dreams
at same time
Nicky
who else
like no one
It’s possible Nicky didn’t tell people of Mya’s death because of Aaron. If he did, I think Aaron would be on the run.
surely nicky wouldve told someone after act 2
cuz idk, he seems that this smart-ass kid doesn't like to tell someone some very suspicious and serious
based on act 1 for example
you said it, the sus word
S U S
picious
Amogus
ok sorry
If Nicky says Aaron killed Mya, then Aaron would get arrested for man slaughter. Which isn’t good on his part. I don’t think Aaron went to jail, also meaning Nicky probably didn’t say it. But you would think he has to, or else they are gonna keep searching for Mya.
Well, first Aaron never escaped anyways, Mr. Peterson supposidly took him to the manor.
Well, it’s what Quentin thinks.
"... but no one has any proof"
Look at the board Quentin has set up, it’s obvious he thinks they are in the Manor.
Also explains why he is further going into the Manor.
He beleives Nicky, no one else does.
funny forgot to laugh
So he needs to continue what Nicky couldn’t.
but now question is
what the heck is this manor
"some say he likes to lock people up in his basement"
"rumors of children going into his house and never being heard from again"
"no one believes in your ideas and theories"
My gosh. It definitely is lore thingy
I hear the distant call of Adam making a video about the manor...
lore
manor
Why did so many messages get deleted, or is it just me?
wonder if the manor even has a name, and if it has, when is it gonna be revealed
like... official name
it’s meta t i m e t r a v e l
wouldn't that be spoiling alpha 2?
so that's basically means they'll spoil whole house in the video
what a chad moment
Probably not all of it.
at least some rooms like the living room or the office
still
Yea, maybe they’ll actually show the main door/goal of the place, we don’t even know what we do in alpha 2, it’s always to “stop his goal.”
since that's the most showed rooms out of all the gameplay clips in the ai trailer and the new ign footage
yeah agree, maybe they'll shown what's the goal in the manor, or maybe not cus that would've been spoiling everything
still, I love the house
the design's pretty cool
even the surroundings
Very detailed, can’t wait for the lag, uh I mean amazing graphical features, uh yes.
very detailed doesn't mean lag
l o r e
lags is canon
last time we said that we got alpha 1 and then everyone went bonkers cus it didn't represent the announcement trailer, now we wait and hope for the best, cus EGS better not down grade the alpha to a ridiculous level just cus of performance
Yea, I think the house will look noice 👌
maybe they don't want to release alpha 2
i mean don't want to release it as alpha 2
I think it’s possible that the Peterson house will be in investigation and we need to watch out for the police, while sneaking in the Peterson house so we can gather up more clues that would be COOL, or they just block that area off with police tape and road blocks.
I’m more for option 1 though lol.
Looks like it, some have basic textures. But yea. We haven’t seen it all though.
this is why I think the alpha will have plenty cutscenes and even a longer time than expected, cus maybe we will play in the peterson residence then we go to the manor too
and if that's the case, then the alpha (or beta) is gonna be pretty sick
😳
👺
It’s alpha 2 as alex said, and yes that would be so awesome. But it’s also possible that alpha 2 starts with manor gameplay. Maybe in full game it’ll be in both houses, then a cutscene happens when we do something, and we so to the manor.
it's the new house that was shown in the ai trailer
not known yet, it’s just another one of his houses, rich neighbor.
Ok big man
Well, he only captured Aaron, his son.
Because he wanted to protect him, he also thinks he’s a bad omen.
ah yes
Cool
book 4 :ohno:
i already finished book 4
ill dm what i have so far for you to check
u didnt fall asleep this time?
Okay
aaron i think
these alpha 1.5 kids
the alpha 1.5 kids for intruding
Why does he kidnap people
¯_(ツ)_/¯
So just for no real good reason? Cool
Enzo and Piper are probably for a bigger reason we aren't aware of yet
All we can do rn is theorize
peep this
no really peep this
Raven Brooks is founded by the Tavishes. Golden Apples are invented. Theodore Peterson is born. Roger and Adelle Peterson become known in the town. The Rumor of the Forest Protectors begin. Theodore’s parents create Mayak, which they do work in. Theodore’s friend Ike starts hanging out at Mayak w...
Is this from the books timeline
You forgot the part where they reveal Aaron is the guest
Hello neighbor 2 super hiper game
Who is the guest? How does he climb like that? How dose he operate his beak?
Beak probably uses a mechanism where the chin actives it.
Okay thank you.
The absolute champion
If the neighbor and the guest are the same person, how come the guest can do advanced acrobatics, and is also like 3 times as skinny
those are alphas
and this is the neighbor
