lore-discussion

[agile hare]

mith has his eyes closed so does nf's

[shrewd dove]

It’s a heeeeeeaaavy modified mith body lol, basically it isn’t him then

[tribal talon]

but his full head model is really messy, because you can't see it anyway and it was supposed to be only in the prototype ending

[agile hare]

it kinda is tho, but well... alpha 1 not canon and that ending was scrapped so yeah... dunno

[torpid sinew]

Can someone please tell me WTF is NTF?

[shrewd dove]

mith has almost the same porportions as the guest, but he’s not the guest

[tribal talon]

we don't know if it's not canon

just stop

[shrewd dove]

Neighbor for trailer

[torpid sinew]

Oh

Thanks

[whole elbow]

Mfw when the HN2A1 Prototype ending is better than the "You Win" Screen

[agile hare]

neighbor For Trailer, it's also the first ever made Peterson model for hn2

[torpid sinew]

Ah.

Thanks.

[agile hare]

your welcome

[shrewd dove]

Pretty good model, what if mith is another future neighbor lol, most likely norman

[torpid sinew]

So this model is literally Mr.P but he didn’t eat food.

[agile hare]

it's also seen in alpha 1 intro and in Announcement Trailer

[torpid sinew]

He looks so thin.

[agile hare]

yeah, it also resembles Guest's proportions

[whole elbow]

That's NFT

[agile hare]

I know

[whole elbow]

Oh wait I thought you meant NF

[shrewd dove]

It’s a creepy model taking a picture of quentin, also weird, I hope they use it for something, or atleast the mask

[tribal talon]

actually maybe there was supposed to be same thing. fake neighbor taking a photo of you, your screen is fully white because of photocamera flash and then... "You win"

[whole elbow]

There was a "You Lose" screen in the files

[shrewd dove]

Ye

[tribal talon]

or well

"you lose" then

wth

"you lose" ?

[whole elbow]

Yes

[agile hare]

dunno, maybe there was gonna be a time thingy and we needed to reach the attic before it runs out

[tribal talon]

it's not fit in any scene

[agile hare]

that's the reason they scrapped it duh

[shrewd dove]

you either lose, or not even sure you won, basically, there is no winning in alpha 1 lol

[tribal talon]

Fake neighbor taking a photo of you
"You lose"

wut

how it makes any sense

[whole elbow]

Was there supposed to be 2 endings??

[shrewd dove]

why SOO many hn 2 models of the neighbor! There‘s buff neighbor, guest neighbor, NFT neighbor, and mask neighbor

[whole elbow]

Probably

[tribal talon]

Buff Neighbor is default neighbor

[torpid sinew]

I hope they use the skinny model.

[tribal talon]

Guest neighbor and NFT technically is kinda same

[whole elbow]

He's "Normal" Neighbor according to Nikita

[tribal talon]

default, normal

that's what i meant

[torpid sinew]

Maybe at the beginning you see him watching TV, with a depressed expression.

[tribal talon]

Usual

regular

hn1 but 💪

[torpid sinew]

The model looks like he gave up on life.

Not buff neighbor.

Trailer Peterson.

[shrewd dove]

It’s just a joke people relax

[torpid sinew]

he looks so dead inside

An I don’t blame him.

He lost his wife, his daughter, basically everything. Aaron is the only one left.

And we don’t know what happened to Aaron.

[tribal talon]

chilling in the basement

[shrewd dove]

the originally hn 1 peterson model is the same age as hn 2 normal neighbor model, hn 2 one just looks a bit older, because of detail, there can’t be too big of a time gap tho, because peterson doesn’t look that much older in the guest costume

[torpid sinew]

I hope they remake some of the old cutscene for HN2.

[tribal talon]

i mean you can see he's throwing guest costume in the fire

[torpid sinew]

Like the tutorial.

From Alpha 2 of HN1.

Where Nicky knocks down a coatrack and Mr.P hears you.

[shrewd dove]

But there has so far been no proof of aaron coming back in hn 2, he will most likely, but has no model shown, not that we know of atleast

[tribal talon]

there's sn reels

with old models, but in hn2

[versed yacht]

I mean that's the same case with Nicky and we can assume we'll see him again

[tribal talon]

most likely all characters will be in the game

for some special scenes

[shrewd dove]

||I know which is really weird, if the neighbor’s the guest, how does the guest costume appear while the neighbor’s in his buff form, and he burns it, it supports the theory, guest is the neighbor from the future, or he’s another person||

[tribal talon]

Or an actual Guest model is old (hell old, prototype model) and trailer is old (looks pretty old) so that's why this happened so they will change it
or Quentin is very "hyperbolizing"

[whole elbow]

||How does the Guest run fast and can literally throw Quentin, at the age of 70?||

[gray dome]

Its eh

[shrewd dove]

Sus

[gray dome]

I'm like the only one who can judge rn

[shrewd dove]

If the anouncement trailer isn’t canon, why would the very old hg neighbor model be lol

[torpid sinew]

It’s pretty clear at this point Guest is supposed to be super skinny.

[tribal talon]

Eh???? 👀 👀 👀

[shrewd dove]

But I am sure it hints at something in the anouncement trailer, not canon tho

[torpid sinew]

Some of the things he does wouldn’t make sense for a buff guy.

[tribal talon]

ah idk at all

everything is really messed up

lots of placeholders, lots of mixed lore related things

and i don't know, how why for what

all this could be a reportage that Quentin is writing.

so he's hyperbolizes a lot

[shrewd dove]

what is real and what is not that’s the question lol

[gray dome]

||most of the book is filler||

[tribal talon]

hah nice

[shrewd dove]

Hopefully by the second book, it’ll give more info, the second book usually has more to offer than the first

[versed yacht]

The main reason I'm excited for the new books is because of the main kids returning as adults

[tribal talon]

some things seems real, like Hello Guest (alpha 1). but at same time Hello Guest seems not real at all

[shrewd dove]

The first still gave a ton of info, kind of sad though, because it’s like there is no way we could of guessed what would happen in reset day besides the name

[gray dome]

The first didn't give a lot

[shrewd dove]

||it gaves up time loops, and a possible confirmation on the guest, and some recurring characters, pretty good||

[tribal talon]

||time loops seems kinda bruh and not very original||

imo

[shrewd dove]

Ye, plus they never hinted at it, kind of just out of no where

[tribal talon]

and at the end it will turn out that it was only book thing

like

||there's time loops in the books, but nothing like this in the games||

[shrewd dove]

They hopefully will make the finale of hn 2 happen in the game, not the books

[tribal talon]

well Nikita is main plot writer

[torpid sinew]

Imagine if we get names for Scout, Inventor, and Bagger.

I need that.

[tribal talon]

he's started this story, so he should end it

[versed yacht]

I'd love that

[torpid sinew]

I kinda came up with some names.

[tribal talon]

Carly didn't planned them

[shrewd dove]

||it feels kind of weird, it used to be a realistic fiction sort of thing, now it’s like sci fi stuff with time loops and good and bad luck lol, I hope there is a twist, there probably will be somehow||

[tribal talon]

so that will be kinda complicated for them to add 3 new characters

[torpid sinew]

Meg (Scout) Jacob (Bagger) and Melvin (Inventor-)

[heavy monolith]

Joe

[torpid sinew]

mama

[tribal talon]

Joe(Bob(Jacob))

[heavy monolith]

Joe Bagman

[torpid sinew]

JoeJoe

gains Star on back

starts breathing

[tribal talon]

Ozvard (sn developer, Hologryph) said that they created those 3 characters for the game from the scratch. Detective, brave and leader they took from the books

[gray dome]

||They already hinted at time loops in prev books||

[shrewd dove]

Nikita cares about the game a lot, it will end well, I wonder how many games of hn will come after hn 2, they probably will make more, I mean it’s tinybuild’s most popular game

[tribal talon]

Neighbor will die at the end

[shrewd dove]

A bit, but not like, hey there’s ||time loops||

[tribal talon]

that's what will happen

[versed yacht]

Bagger's name is obviously Matthew

[heavy monolith]

He trips and falls off of the roof 😔

[tribal talon]

mill

[heavy monolith]

Joe

[tribal talon]

there was a rumble with a mith on the mill

Guest didn't won

[shrewd dove]

Well he is pretty old I wouldn’t be surprised, but he’s the main antagonist of the whole series, so hn won’t be the same without him if he died in hn 2

[sterile remnant]

yes

[tribal talon]

he will die when hn will be not popular

[heavy monolith]

He died in 2018 😔

[tribal talon]

[shrewd dove]

Hn 2 looks great so far atleast

Imagine how insane hn 3 would be, if hn 2 is this good lol

[sterile remnant]

"I will not die" Mr Pterson

[heavy monolith]

Empathy

[versed yacht]

Hello neighbor idle game tycoon roleplay obby

[shrewd dove]

No

[sterile remnant]

hn 4

[tribal talon]

Hello Neighbor City Building game

build your own Raven Brooks

[sterile remnant]

Hello, Neighbor! Before Hide and Seek

[shrewd dove]

Hello Neighbor 3 Ai Showcase: “He hacks into all government files and the whole internet and then comes to your house in the form of a robot and nukes your town, there pratically no way to get into his house.”

[sterile remnant]

Hello, Neighbor! Before Mr Peterson

coming 2023

[shrewd dove]

”There’s ways to get past him, the more you delete every trace of your excistense, the less chance you’ll be knapped.”

[gray dome]

we dont know yet

[whole elbow]

the ability to understand and share the feelings of another.

[gray dome]

we dont

and its a real thing for hn

[sterile remnant]

😮

[whole elbow]

They said "What's an empathy" Not "What is Empathy" 😡

[shrewd dove]

“In Hn 3 the neighbor can talk and gets into your head to make you feel bad about going in his house, if you get in his house, he sends a virus to your computer and real life, he never knows exactly where you are, but he does soo, good luck.”

[grizzled burrow]

When does Hello Neighbor 2 take place? Does it take place after act 2? #lore-discussion

[gray dome]

yes

[minor kayak]

Yes

Nicky is still a kid during hn2

[torpid sinew]

If that happens I’m gonna make sure everyone suffers expect for The Roth family and the Peterson family.

[torpid sinew]

So does that mean we’re gonna try and save him?

[minor kayak]

No

Nicky is already out

The police are searching ted's house because Nicky was trapped there for 2 months

[torpid sinew]

ah

[tribal talon]

how do we know that

[vivid merlin]

I will give you a nice, calm and logical question

The question is simple, it is a question that explains in which period the hn2 game took place

I will show you how to answer soon

By the way, do not confirm and answer directly by saying that the constructor said that, think logically

What period does hn2 take place?

between act 1 and 2 (equal)

wait

close to act 2

between act 2 and 3 (equal)

close to act 3

after act 3

[gray dome]

tB said between act 2 and 3

[vivid merlin]

look

[gray dome]

no

if tB says so then its most likely true

no need of other sources

[whole elbow]

What if a dev says that the game takes place before the year 1800

[gray dome]

well u see the thing is theyd never say that srsly

[vivid merlin]

if the producer maybe changes it, or if it makes us believe that

[gray dome]

????

[vivid merlin]

I am asking you

[tribal talon]

Helo

[shrewd dove]

Me trying to figure out hn lore

[young yoke]

lol

[torpid sinew]

Why the hell does Aaron scream in HN1 if he agreed to be locked in the basement?

[rocky pond]

That is because that may not be Aaron

[torpid sinew]

.

Didn’t he start kidnapping after Nicky?

Since if I’m correct, the only Simming posters were Aaron and Mya.

In HN1 of course.

[rocky pond]

But why would Aaron scream if he agreed to

So actually I believe that isn’t Aaron

[gray dome]

It is Aaron

[torpid sinew]

I jokingly said he saw a spider.

[rocky pond]

The neighbor could have had another child in his basement

Or that act 1 could be a dream in a way

[torpid sinew]

.

[rocky pond]

I do think act 2 may be a dream tho

Just like act 3

Do we have a time period during act 1 and act 2?

[gray dome]

Nothing is a dream
2 or 3 months

[rocky pond]

Me when act 3 was a dream

Yea act 2 could possibly be a dream since how would the neighbor build the rest of that house that fast?

[gray dome]

Act 3 also wasn't a dream

[torpid sinew]

It was still in Nicky’s head.

[rocky pond]

Act 3 was a nightmare which is basically a bad dream

[torpid sinew]

It was more of a Self Therapy.

[gray dome]

It is self therapy

Nikita already said that

[rocky pond]

Also how would the neighbor build the act 2 house like that in 2-3 months?

[torpid sinew]

weed

[rocky pond]

Ok then act 2 isn’t a dream

[torpid sinew]

It kinda is

But like-

[rocky pond]

Act 2 is weird tho

What event could it be based off?

[torpid sinew]

Maybe it’s Nicky overreacting.

[rocky pond]

Maybe

[vernal kraken]

what if act 2 house being bigger has to do with the gray manor/other house we saw

[rocky pond]

But it says act 2 is based off an actual event

[rocky pond]

You mean in that one cutscene?

[vernal kraken]

in the ai showcase yeah

[gray dome]

The actual event is Nicky escaping from his house

He worded it weirdly because he's Russian

[rocky pond]

Ok

But we all agree act 3 is a dream

[torpid sinew]

So-

[torpid sinew]

It’s literally just walking to your home in Act 1.

[rocky pond]

Explain the ending then lol

We wake up

[gray dome]

ok ask Nikita

don't ask me

he's the dev

[rocky pond]

I find it convenient that we wake up after the final act

And act 3 could be resolving the trauma in the dream

[cedar blade]

Just for clarification, aren't the last few scenes of the third Hello Neighbor book just alternate retellings of events from Act 1 of the game?

It seems as though the book retconned some things........

[torpid sinew]

I believe that Act Finale’s world is a limbo of sorts.

Basically people with trauma (Nicky, Peterson, ECT) have their spirits go there until they can face it.

With Peterson being an exception.

[heavy monolith]

i mean if the creator said its not a dream

its not a dream

[left sail]

Act 1 is real act 2 is a dream of something that was real and act 3 and 4 are lucid dreams

[torpid sinew]

.

Act 3 and 4/Finale are Self Therapy.

[left sail]

Self therapy?

[vivid merlin]

this is proof too

[left sail]

That’s not true

[vivid merlin]

why

[left sail]

Why did Nicky fall asleep at the beginning of act 3

[vivid merlin]

Act 3, act 2 ruins too

[vivid merlin]

mmmm

[left sail]

Act 2 is a dream of something that was real

[vivid merlin]

Maybe his memories came alive

[left sail]

And I know it’s a dream because in hello neighbor 2 the house looks more normal

But their are some changes

[vivid merlin]

haha, if it comes out you'll notice their strange looks inside

[left sail]

?

I don’t understand what your saying

[vivid merlin]

we said what it is, whatever you said, you said so. I do not want to talk about this issue, which I can no longer complain about.

[left sail]

U know what else is a issue

Vandals

Most of them went missing by the guest

[vivid merlin]

whoever makes more sense to whom it will be

[left sail]

You trying to be wise?

[vivid merlin]

it ultimately happens to what others think (sometimes it happens, sometimes it doesn't)

[left sail]

Looks like my time is running out so I have to go

[vivid merlin]

No I'm trying to talk philosophically in order not to start a fight (if this subject is philosophical)

[young yoke]

wanna disscuss the lore of hn2?

with some of the clues we have?

if we do we should start with HGP?

[gray dome]

It is since Nikita said so

[left sail]

I was not talking about Nikita

[gray dome]

U don't have to be talking abt him but he literally said it was self therapy

[thick ibex]

In the pilot episode Mr Peterson said something like "You won't do this to me again not today." to a ton of crows so I think the guest took his children because he had a bag with his daughter's doll in it.

I meant like mr peterson said that because he had a bag with the doll in it

[tribal talon]

pilot is not canon

[thick ibex]

oh

well ok

sad

[shrewd dove]

Act 3 isn’t a dream???

Why did nikita say this, when nicky could get past the door in act 1 books?

[gray dome]

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[shrewd dove]

Indeed

[gray dome]

Gonna reread the last parts of reset day

[shrewd dove]

Ye

||It’s weird how the guest acts, mr peterson never directly threatens are says stuff like “where to run now?”, he usually doesn’t act like that, weird how much he changed I guess||

[tribal talon]

Because books and games are kinda different thing

[minor kayak]

None of these are dreams

[tribal talon]

*not really happened

[minor kayak]

Act 1 is semi-real, act 2 is trauma, act 3+ is self therapy

[tribal talon]

by the "dream" most of us saying that this didn't actually happened

[minor kayak]

It was self therapy

Nikita said

He went into his "minds eye" or smthn

[tribal talon]

yeah ok, but not really happened

[shrewd dove]

Act 1 is real, Act 2 is the memeries of what it felt like when nicky was escaping the neighbor, act 3 is him resolving his traumas in a dream

[minor kayak]

It's not a dream

[tribal talon]

act 1 not really real

not whole

because things getting werid when Neighbor caught us in first cutscene

[minor kayak]

Acts 1 and 2 happened, but the memories corrupted over time

[tribal talon]

Nikita said something like that yeah

Nicky doesn't remember everything perfectly

So basically we still don't have pure picture of what actually happened

[minor kayak]

AS and books

But AS will show it

[tribal talon]

But hn2 should explain a bit of what happened actually, as Nikita said, I think

That's why Nicky will appear in the game

[minor kayak]

Hn2 takes place after act 2 so I dunno

[gray dome]

||"When the shaking started, the security guard at the meeting got a call on his radio. Something about a missing construction worker. That's all I heard." - Piper's mom 🤔 ||

[tribal talon]

We still don't know is it exactly taking place after act 2

Not like they can't make small cutscenes of what happened before

SN reels

For example

[minor kayak]

Cause ted escaped the police before Nicky came out

Sounds legit

[tribal talon]

but at same time in act 2 there's broken Neighbor's car

heck that, let's wait for alpha 2

[minor kayak]

It's still broken in hn2

[tribal talon]

But not that much as in act 2

[minor kayak]

It could have broken more since act 2

[tribal talon]

Yeah but why it's broken

If in act 1 it's ok

[minor kayak]

Cause now the bumper and one of the headlights are falling off, and the window is broken

Just like in act 2 where the bumper is falling off, lights are missing, and window is broken

[tribal talon]

Act 2 car seems more real than act 1 car

[minor kayak]

Act 2 is trauma so no

It's not

[tribal talon]

Car crash happened

Car ok

why

[minor kayak]

How would he have gotten home with broken wheels and no headlights

[tribal talon]

but at same time it's not in act 2

AND

in hn2

I guess we can say that Nicky doesn't remember everything perfectly

[rocky pond]

We don’t play as Nicky in hello neighbor 2

[tribal talon]

he never said that

he said nicky and quentin's perception of the story is different

[rocky pond]

It got confusing with the message above

[shrewd dove]

Hmm who is a ||construction worker in hn?||

Weird how in hn 1, we aren’t in the moment, we’re going off of what Nicky remembers

[pliant estuary]

There’s the guy who was building the amusement park that had a “accident” that slowed down building on the amusement park

In hello neighbor grave mistakes I think

Or Mr Peterson who is an engineer but he is also a construction worker

[tribal talon]

I think Aaron is Quentin because they have same faces

And same brown eyes

[shrewd dove]

they are different characters

[tribal talon]

ummm

Bruh look at the faces

[pliant estuary]

The don’t look the same at all

[vernal kraken]

their nose is completely different

[pliant estuary]

I know right

[tribal talon]

Their nose is same

They are same except ears

[pliant estuary]

They look nothing Absolutely nothing absolutely

A like

[tribal talon]

umm look

Without glasses it is easy to recognize him

literally one guy

even tho different eyes, noses, ears, names, etc....

[silver vine]

Quentin is NOT Aaron

[tribal talon]

1. same eyes
2. same nose
3. looking similar haircut

What if Aaron escaped and changed his name to Quentin to hide from the neighbor

[silver vine]

But HN2 takes place when Nicky is a kid, so Aaron is a kid too

[tribal talon]

What if it will be his memories or fears or idk

[silver vine]

Aaron has NO intention of escaping and he thinks he deserves to be in basement

[tribal talon]

Then why he scream so much

[silver vine]

IDK

But he is GUILTY

[tribal talon]

Yes but what If He changed name to forget his past

Bc it is easier to live with it if you don't think about it

[silver vine]

He will never do it and he will not leave the basement unless someone pulls him out

[tribal talon]

Why so

[silver vine]

Do you even know the pain of GUILT?

He killed his own sister

[tribal talon]

But do you know it?

[silver vine]

YES

Do even read the books?

[tribal talon]

I did but only missing pieces

[strange flame]

Read Waking Nightmare, then Buried Secrets

[silver vine]

Buried secrets does reveal a lot of buried secrets

[tribal talon]

mhm makes sense to me

[silver vine]

You gotta read atleast the first trilogy

[tribal talon]

May you fast describe what was in the book

[rocky pond]

Are you sure about that because Aaron could possibly be the crow man trying to make it up to his father for what he did taking care of the house or the crow man could be the person in that one picture with the neighbor

WE HIT 100,000 MEMBERS

[silver vine]

Yo its confirmed ||Neighbor is guest||

[rocky pond]

When was this confirmed?

[silver vine]

Book 7

[silver vine]

But..

||Neighbor took the identity of guest at present day||

||Whereas HN2 takes place in 90s where buff neighbor is also present||

[gray dome]

why is that tagged

[silver vine]

IDK

[silver vine]

Just for fun

[gray dome]

You don't need to reply twice

[silver vine]

=

[tribal talon]

= = = = =

Imbir was the alien and guest and the neighbor all along

It was planned science prototype

[silver vine]

NO

[tribal talon]

ok fine

[gray dome]

I should probably mention this

||Enzo had something the Guest wanted from him||

[tribal talon]

And it was his glasses

[silver vine]

DONT JOKE

[tribal talon]

Why

[silver vine]

This channel is no place for jokes

[tribal talon]

Ok fine I will stop

[silver vine]

Nice

[silver vine]

If you want to crack jokes do that in the #hn-memes channel

[gray dome]

🤔

[tribal talon]

imagine being crow thingy

[vivid merlin]

Act1 and act2 real, act3 dream (no ping please)

[pliant estuary]

Yeah that’s why the act 3 house is so big

[gray dome]

act 3 isnt a dream for the love of god-

[pliant estuary]

The part where the house is big t is

If it was not a dream he could not build that big house and it just goes away at the end

[agile hare]

the stupidity of this chat about how aaron is guest or aaron is quentin or guest isn't neighbor is huge

[pliant estuary]

And the player goes to sleep then act 3 begins then the player wakes up and the big house it gone

[gray dome]

It isn't a dream

and I posted the image several times ngjngjgnjg

[pliant estuary]

How do you explain all that stuff

[shrewd dove]

Ikr

||once we find out what the guest wants from enzo his motives will be more clear||

[gray dome]

Watch the Q&A

It's self therapy

[gray dome]

||most likely their rings||

[shrewd dove]

||rings?||

[agile hare]

||yeah, enzo is married in reset day||

[shrewd dove]

I know, but why want ||a ring?||

[agile hare]

dunno

[tribal talon]

i thought he died

[gray dome]

||we dont know if he is||

[gray dome]

||rings that keep u from being affected by the time loop||

||theyre medallions||

[gray dome]

||also no he went missing||

[gray dome]

ah yeah he did nvm

[agile hare]

||dunno, never read the book 😔 just saying what I've heard||

[gray dome]

well I have read the book

and am like the only one who has atm

[hidden python]

i love how most of these lore things are spoilers xd

[gray dome]

because most of the things are stuff from a book thats not even out yet

[hidden python]

still it's kinda funny to see that

[vivid merlin]

#old-hn1-hnd-feedback-and-bugs message I guess a lot of people want nicky to have (adult) in hn2

good 👍

[tribal talon]

||it's funny i predicted enzo being mentioned in book 7 but not appearing||

[vernal kraken]

||I thought pipers mom was taken by the guest?||oops forgot to turn off ping---

[gray dome]

||Yeah she was in the ending||

[vernal kraken]

oh

[gray dome]

||both of them were kidnapped||

[vernal kraken]

😐.

well oof

[pliant estuary]

Why is every one blacking out there Messages

[gray dome]

because spoilers ...duh

[pliant estuary]

Ok

[hidden python]

cuz some people want to be surprised and don't want spoilers ig

[gray dome]

what

[agile hare]

dunno why but I find Peterson from books is more hostile and more intense then what we see in the games

[shrewd dove]

Yea

in hn 1 he feels a little lazy, and less booming, the neighbor from the books had wide shoulders and big arms, this one, kind of feels weaker almost, hn 2 improved a lot on that tho

[vernal kraken]

except the hips/thigh connect kinda☠️ tho

[tribal talon]

he has better character development

[agile hare]

true

[agile hare]

hn2's feels more book accurate, Peterson is more buff and more strong, his grunts and heavy breathing make him more intimating and overall more scary

[wicked heath]

thats PROFFESSIONAL detective gaming

[gray dome]

||so now that timelines exist I wonder which books happen in which order, because of the timeline resetting & shit||

||ex. aaron trilogy then nicky trilogy then maybe a time reset then the events happen again differently, stuff like that||

[versed yacht]

||I mean, we know we have at least 3+ timelines, and maybe with that we can peice together which go where||

[gray dome]

||yeah its confusing af||

[versed yacht]

||My guess is Games, Nicky Books, then maybe Aaron books||

||And that's just based on when they released lol||

[shrewd dove]

Yea, his animations are scarier too

[shrewd dove]

||What do you mean different time lines restarting? It’s in the new book?||

[gray dome]

1. Spoiler tags
2. Yes

[shrewd dove]

ye

[gray dome]

It's possible due to ||time loops||

[shrewd dove]

Ye

[torpid sinew]

mama

[south ginkgo]

So the new book came out?

[heavy monolith]

Not yet

Zpefm just got it early

[shrewd dove]

Comes out on tuesday

[south ginkgo]

Nice

[gray dome]

||I wonder why Ted would need both the rings and a luck device||

[minor kayak]

||infinity stones||

[shrewd dove]

Yea, also ||why do this all in the first place, me must have a strong motive, because what’s he got to lose?||

[vernal kraken]

||so noone else has them lmao idk I can just see him hoarding stuff||

[vivid merlin]

aaron, nicky is no longer a kid. 2 is now adults. Neighbor's old age is evidence

[oak mirage]

What is the language they speak in Raven Brooks? After all, the sign "Welcome to Raven Brooks" is written in a weird way "Calwon Oot Wayron Croobs"

[tribal talon]

for us it's mixed english

for Raven Brooks it's their own language

and it's not just random mixed words all the time

if it says "Wayron Croobs" it will be always "Wayron Croobs" and not "Raywon Sroobs" and kind of

so it's an actual in-game language

it's mixed english when you writing something
but! it's mixed russian when you speaking

pretty interesting choose for the game's language, because they tieing two the most biggest fan-bases with different languages in one

[shrewd dove]

I think the language is nice, because no one playing the game has to feel like the game is meant for someone else, and they don’t have to change the langauge in each game

[oak mirage]

So the "Welcome to Raven Brooks" translation is a guess, right?

[tribal talon]

yes

"kilm" - milk

"simming" - missing

[shrewd dove]

Ye

although english is easier to understand simming, still

[oak mirage]

Some things are obvious, such as kilm and simming as you said, but I wonder where the name "Raven Brooks" came from?

If it's from the books, then that's why, I never read any of the books, so I'm totally unaware of their lore

[wicked heath]

basically bc of the forest protectors rumors

[gray dome]

that was never said anywhere but ok

[vivid merlin]

.

[wicked heath]

book 6

[gray dome]

I dont recollect any moment where they say that but again ok

[wicked heath]

it was built around conspiracies of ravens

-n. darby

"Thats why it is called Raven Brooks"

-Mya

[gray dome]

that doesnt mean it had to be called Raven Brooks

[heavy monolith]

Calwom became celvom

[coarse crater]

but Mya said it was

[heavy monolith]

Mya is the all seeing god of the hn universe

[wicked heath]

yes

pls respect her

[whole elbow]

And it became Calwom

[gray dome]

and?

[whole elbow]

And yes

[gray dome]

oh ok

I see

might as well check the book then 😐

[tribal talon]

what where

[tribal talon]

can someone give me a summary of the hello neighbour law

[heavy monolith]

Celvom oot logden payoll

[tribal talon]

damnit

well ok then, one letter

structure is still same

[heavy monolith]

Luck is gack in hn1 and cull in hg

[tribal talon]

they are still changing it btw

like recusity sopt

which is now setuciry opst

[whole elbow]

Celvom changed back to Calwom

[sterile remnant]

Hello Neighbor language in Google translate

[tribal talon]

the neighbor hello

[chrome palm]

y didn't we get nog simming on friday?

[shrewd dove]

lesie’s partner must be important to the story, because they specifically won’t give him a name yet, meaning he is probably a past character

[chrome palm]

maybe

or they just don't have a name for him

yet

but it's posssible

*possible

[shrewd dove]

They said they will give clues to his name, they know his name

[chrome palm]

oh

ok

then thats more likely

officer keith?

from the books

hmmmmmm

i don't think he has glasses though

and officer keith does

and something just to note

officer keith wasn't mentioned even once in book six

from what i remember

[tribal talon]

they are not book characters

[copper wave]

that we know of*

vanishes

[tribal talon]

[novel silo]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kE03MuGhhIE This was in the game files

so why does the guest get involved

WHY is quentin so pathetic ?

we may ever know.

https://youtu.be/3aNcD_bZxtQ look at the place of the'person who recorded the second secret neighbor sighting could be the guest as he was not in the recording.

[agile hare]

😳

[wild ore]

Quick question does anyone know when the next chapter of nog-simming will release

[shrewd dove]

Idk

also, mith can’t be norman darby, because norman is the height of aaron and has big hands, which mith does not have.

[errant hazel]

hey, and what about HN2 Diary?? Is it dead?

will they ever add something new?

[whole elbow]

Thursday or Friday

[gray dome]

10 hours

[tribal talon]

10?

[whole elbow]

10 Hours for reset day?

[gray dome]

Yeah

[gray dome]

uh

so

we're about to get a preview when Reset Day comes out I think

and it's probably for a book that hasn't even been put online yet

so wtf

[heavy monolith]

Where did you read that

Do you already have the preview

[gray dome]

nope

[vivid merlin]

I'll tell you some real proof of age

[gray dome]

physical copies dont have previews

[vivid merlin]

How old was the neighbor when Aaron and Nicky was born

[gray dome]

or sneak peeks i meant

if u look at the preview it says sneak peek

and physical versions dont have it

so yeah

[vivid merlin]

Im waiting

because i will ask one more question

[shrewd dove]

Idk, but the neighbor’s been in raven brooks since he left for college then came back

[vivid merlin]

college?

[whole elbow]

I think around 28-34

[wicked heath]

Book 4 related

[vivid merlin]

So how old does the neighbor show in neighbor hn2?

[tribal talon]

Alpha 2?

[shrewd dove]

In waking nightmare nicky has a dream then wakes up with a leaf in his hair and grass in his toes, but he took a shower and didn’t go to sleep with grees, dirt, or leaves, and it is only in one part, but seems really important, maybe leads to ||different timelines and loops and stuff from reset day idk, unless someone came at night and stuffed grass in nicky’s toes lol||

he had a dream where he was outside, so maybe that’s important

[gray dome]

dunno if i ever mentioned this

its not important either tho

||the person at the beginning of the book with the garage is Maritzas house||

[mystic night]

Which book?

[gray dome]

book 7

duh

[west briar]

huh

[west briar]

Yep he sleepwalked

Lmao chat so quiet XD

[tribal talon]

what

[tribal talon]

New lore theory

The aliens nicky believes in are real and will take over raven brooks

[west briar]

lol

Heres a theory and a few questions: So After HN act 1 he built the giant cage thing around his house and then map 4 in SN the kids broke in but failed. A while later after he builds his house bigger Act 2 happens and Nicky escapes.

Probably already said but I don’t care

Also at the end we hear glass breaking and at first I thought it was Aaron but what if it was the ravens

And yeah the birds are ravens not crows

Because In the pilot we see the ravens circling his house

And ravens are a signature of death

That someone’s gonna die soon

Or that’s what they’re assumed to be

And Nicky tells the cops about the neighbor

Now he’s wanted and he flees somewhere else

[tribal talon]

The big house in act 2 isn't real

[silver vine]

Yeah both the tall fences and the extensions are not real

Nicky's trauma warped it

He doesnt remember anything clearly

[shrewd dove]

I don’t think so

[west briar]

He sleep walks throughout the series im pretty sure

[west briar]

I don't think so cause The neighbor did build a bunch of amusement parks as we see in the books.

It's possible youre right though

[shrewd dove]

I just read the books, and he hasn’t

[shrewd dove]

Nikita says that’s just nicky imagining it from his memories as his memories aren’ perfect in hn 1 you aren’t in the moment the things that happen are based off of nicky’s memories, that’s why in act 3, nicky wakes up, because he just had a nightmare of what he remembered in act 1 and 2

[granite garnet]

act 1 did happen

[tribal talon]

hewo

[sterile remnant]

hello

ok waht were we talking about?

silence

[tribal talon]

So maybe Aaron became Quentin (changed his name to hide from the neighbor)

[torpid sinew]

Act 1 is real.

[sterile remnant]

yes

[tribal talon]

And then the neighbor gone missing and he somehow saw the bird locking his up in attic

[torpid sinew]

Completely real, everything you see did happen.

[violet sierra]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/720318918165659779/839122458992181318/unknown.png

[sterile remnant]

I think neighbor facked disappearance

[tribal talon]

so cuz that it reminded his past and the point of game with act 2 will be

[violet sierra]

timeline clues

[sterile remnant]

Hn2 alpha 2 is before alpha 1.5

[tribal talon]

beating fears

[violet sierra]

that was last game

[tribal talon]

And then in reality doing this thing with the guest

[sterile remnant]

Neighbor escapes from the cops and moves

[tribal talon]

Like one part will be memories and second will be with the guest in reality

[sterile remnant]

He cant die

if he dies

[tribal talon]

wdym

[sterile remnant]

well its gonna be Goodbye, Neighbro! 3

if mr peterson dies

there will be no point of

hello eighbor

[tribal talon]

wdym

[sterile remnant]

nvm

[tribal talon]

So Quentin I think never met the Peterson while he was adult

I think it is imagination

[sterile remnant]

he is a detective

[tribal talon]

Maybe Aaron grew up, became a journalist and wanted to do like book/film about neighbor and cuz that he tries to remember what happen in act 2

[sterile remnant]

he wants revenge

after being in the basemnet for years

[tribal talon]

And while he was doing the film/book he find some new clues about neighbor and tries to find him

[sterile remnant]

or months

[tribal talon]

Or weeks

[sterile remnant]

no

since Mya died

[tribal talon]

wait lemme tell my theory

[sterile remnant]

Theres always screams cause Mr Peterson goes down there every night

[sterile remnant]

ok

[tribal talon]

Maybe Aaron grew up, became a journalist and wanted to do like book/film about neighbor and cuz that he tries to remember what happen in act 2. And while he was doing the film/book he find some new clues about neighbor and tries to find him.

When he actually finds his car/ or something else he sees the guest locking him up in attic.

And then starts the part with the guest

Aaron isn't Quentin

[sterile remnant]

He did escape

[tribal talon]

The first part of HN2 is during act 1 when aaron is still a kid

[tribal talon]

.

He can't

How would quentin be trying to save himself

[sterile remnant]

lol

[tribal talon]

Aaron is still missing at the start of HN2

[sterile remnant]

He is prob in the Basement

[tribal talon]

He is

what if what is going on in the past is just imagination

Read this bruh

It is possible cuz it was the first game

[sterile remnant]

Mr Peterson went there every night in Hn1 now he jsut abandon him (Or day)

[tribal talon]

The first game was different

HN2 is the real RB

Relax it is just my theory

Dude

Then tell me your theory and tell me why Aaron can't be Quentin

Sure.

[sterile remnant]

ik

[tribal talon]

1: Aaron is still missing in Hello Neighbor 2

2: Time gap is too short for him to have aged that much

3: Wouldn't the neighbor ||(aka guest)|| lock him away if he caught him

[versed yacht]

Because Aaron is in the basement

[sterile remnant]

Aaron was like 13 when he went in the basement he cant look that old

[tribal talon]

Wdym Aka Guest.

[sterile remnant]

Im not Aaron

ALSO

[tribal talon]

Read book 7

[tribal talon]

In appha 1.5 he looks like 25 years old guy

[sterile remnant]

THe neighbor was friends with him or his dad

aaron in Hn2 is like 13

[tribal talon]

Book 7 confirms ||neighbor guest||

[sterile remnant]

||It deos||

[tribal talon]

I give up trying to explain why aaron quentin is impossible

[heavy monolith]

Hn2 takes place around act 2

The end

Thats why

[tribal talon]

He doesn't listen

I do

ESER thinks HN2 is a dream

I am just saying that is possible

Give me reasons how it's possible

Counter all of my reasons.

[tribal talon]

Counter these

[sterile remnant]

||Ike was kicked out of the Neighbor's (when everyone was alive) then 2 years later they find out he was murdered so Quentin might be Ike's son cause he has the dame last names||

[heavy monolith]

We dont even know quentin’s last name

[tribal talon]

Quentin Quentin

[heavy monolith]

And ikes last name is gershowitz

[tribal talon]

Quentin is one of his middle names

[sterile remnant]

I thought it was quentin and we call Hn2 Quentin by his last name

[tribal talon]

1. Aaron missing only in (on my opinion) in dream part of game
2. Quenton looks like 20-25 years old guy.
3. He did not, in act 2 we hear how he escape.

[heavy monolith]

Okay but

Hn2 is

Around act 2

Its not like 10 years after

[sterile remnant]

yes exactly

[tribal talon]

bruh look at the tech

[tribal talon]

Nothing in hn is a dream

[heavy monolith]

Yeah look at quentin’s computer

Its from the 90s

[tribal talon]

I have this kind of pc ;-;

It is fine.

Your pc is probably older than you

If you have one

[tribal talon]

True.

[torpid sinew]

Aaron doesn’t want to escape. The noise he makes is so Peterson doesn’t go after Nicky.

[tribal talon]

Ok, what if he did not escape and was just saved by police?

Like much time later

[errant hazel]

hmm, interesting

[tepid granite]

In the future there should be a developer Q/A where they answer ANY lore question

Like a live stream in 10 years time

[shrewd dove]

How did we miss this??? Hello guest takes place before hn act 1, unless someone rebuilt the park

This is in buried secrets

[strange flame]

How would the police know where Aaron was in the basement?

[errant hazel]

nicky could call them

[strange flame]

But even with that, Mr. Peterson would have a plan to deal with that

[errant hazel]

hmm

kinda true

[strange flame]

Besides, as Book 3 says in the HN notebook, Nicky was still 2 steps behind Mr. Peterson

[errant hazel]

now im thinking, that i really should read the books...

[tribal talon]

me tho

[sterile remnant]

omg

[errant hazel]

aww man, when your living in czechia, and you want to read all the books, but your not that as good at english as you should be...

kinda sucks

[tribal talon]

bruh

tf tiny builds

The wanted poster is just reference to DiaWanted

breuh

Brueheheh

[errant hazel]

bruh

[tribal talon]

I though it is poster that shows the man in the hat is wanted

this thing

[tribal talon]

Am dum dum

[errant hazel]

so, what is the main big theory?

[tribal talon]

Idk

Why this neighbor is thinn

He is in hn2 files

But it is not how he looks like in game

[errant hazel]

i think he looks awesome

i like this design

[radiant token]

He slimm

[lime mango]

I have a question, what is the shadow thing in the hello neighbor games?

[shrewd dove]

before act 1, earthpro got all the golden apple corperation land meaning the park and the factery along with the surrounding forest, nicky left a meeting to discuss other stuff, and came to the park to realize it was completly gone, now this is very confusing, because if hello guest takes place before act 1, then how are there crow statues if the crows are not the mascot, this is confirmed because the theme/mascot of the park is golden apples and crows are not mentioned as a theme

[heavy monolith]

A representation of fear

[lime mango]

ok thanks.

[shrewd dove]

Atleast this means hello guest takes place before act 1 of hn 1, I mean it’s technically not confirmed, because it could mean not the whole park is gone, but I’m pretty sure it takes place before act 1

[tribal talon]

There is so much proof crows are part of the marketing

[shrewd dove]

There isn’t tho, the theme of the park is golden apples, crows were never mentioned as any part of marketing in the books, the park was one of the main focuses of the books, they would mention it if it was true

[tribal talon]

Who is the theory author

[shrewd dove]

Also, I just noticed the person holding the clipboards of quentin and beatrix so you can choose your character is the man in the hat also

[tribal talon]

Bruh I noticed this like when hg was released

[shrewd dove]

I haven’t played hg in a while lol, it doesn’t really mean much probably

[violet sierra]

the clipboards of quentin and beatrix are on a table in alpha 1

hn2

[tribal talon]

Wait no one said anything about 54 minutes

Dam this server is not very active

[west briar]

My theory is Quinton is Nicky’s dad

[gray dome]

What

[west briar]

1. Because Nicky’s dad in the book was a journalist in Raven brooks

[tame mural]

https://hello-neighbor.fandom.com/wiki/Jay_Roth

[west briar]

I mean it’s possible

[gray dome]

They have different names

[west briar]

Lot of time anyway

[gray dome]

So no it's not possible

[west briar]

Yeah what about changing his name?

[gray dome]

They also have different looks

[west briar]

Hm

Maybe you’re right

Also

[gray dome]

Literally anyone else could be Quentin if your saying they're both journalists

Nicky's dad I mean

[west briar]

Another theory : HN 2 Takes place after act 2 in HN and before act 3

[gray dome]

duh

[west briar]

And for anyone who disagrees, why would Nicky’s missing poster still be up

[west briar]

Yeah yeah

[tribal talon]

Uhhh

If it takes place after act 3

Why Nicky would be missing

It does not make any sense

[shrewd dove]

Something doesn’t add up, if the golden apple factory is completly gone before act 1, then how is it in alpha 1.5? The alphas aren’t canon, but why add them

[tribal talon]

what if alpha 1.5 is long time before act 1?

Like town look different

[gray dome]

It isn't in 1.5...?

[tribal talon]

It is

[shrewd dove]

I mean amusement park sorry

[gray dome]

Oh the amusement park

[shrewd dove]

The amusement park is comepletly gone before act 1

[gray dome]

🤷

It seems to be a mini version

[tribal talon]

What if alpha 1.5 is even before the hello guest

[shrewd dove]

earthpro plans to use to land to make more houses

[tribal talon]

Like in hello guest Quentin looks older

[gray dome]

So either they didn't burn down a mini version or it's timelines

Also no 1.5 and HG both are after Act 2

[tribal talon]

there is no missing posters in HN alpha 1.5 and 1

[shrewd dove]

They can’t be, because the amusement park is completly gone before act 1, no trace is left

[gray dome]

Timelines

[tribal talon]

The only missing poster is only the neighbor one

[shrewd dove]

hello guest takes place before act 1, unless timelines stuff, I am getting reset day today

[tribal talon]

mhm

Why there is no posters about the Mya and Aaron in alpha 1.5

[silver vine]

Yo the dev itself confirmed act 2 is just a memory and nicky's trauma warped his memory

[heavy monolith]

No they mean the golden apple park one and the ones before that

Wait

Nvm

[tribal talon]

wy

this server

is so inactive

[silver vine]

I think its because of timelines

[silver vine]

IDK

[shrewd dove]

More things to note is that nicky says the feeling of the ball in the beginning of the act 1 house is familiar, idk what that could mean, also before nicky goes to the basement it’s a day before the police come to investigate nicky, because they think he has something related to the location of aaron and mya

[gray dome]

Most likely something to do with timelines

[shrewd dove]

Got another thing to note, seems related to reset day and further confirms ||neighbor guest||

[heavy monolith]

We established this like

7 days ago

[shrewd dove]

In the final cacet tape that nicky watches, mr peterson is working on some stuff in the basement, I am guessing aaron is filming this, but the neighbor mustache is strait up described as horns, just like what ||piper describes as horns seen in the guest’s costume, but later finds out it’s a mustache, and yes, I know we all ready confirmed this, but still pointing it out||

Nvm it’s mya filming

[heavy monolith]

Also the ending of reset day

[gray dome]

Yeah

Also I guess no book 8

[shrewd dove]

Why?

usually they make trilogies of books

[gray dome]

Book 8 isn't on bookmanager yet and the sneak peek is book 1

[vernal kraken]

wait ||about the time resetting thing-- It says the police investigation starts over again but like??? Are they not writing things down? taking pictures? keeping any record of what they did? even if their memory got reset there would still be evidence of activity right?||

[gray dome]

||pretty sure time actually resets||

[vernal kraken]

😐..... I'm lost on how physical things like that just straight up would poof out of existance lol

like you be looking at something and then it? || just disappears and your brain gets wiped? lmao||

[gray dome]

||I think it resets overnight||

[vernal kraken]

ohhhhhhhh

That might work, less weird anyway lol

[tribal talon]

reset day

hah

yey

another day another book

[gray dome]

from where

[tribal talon]

instagram

[heavy monolith]

I thought you didnt like books

[tribal talon]

neighborgameshq

[silver vine]

Will there be a book 8?

[gray dome]

Probably not

[silver vine]

Why?

[gray dome]

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[silver vine]

How do you know it wont come?

[gray dome]

No book 8 on bookmanager and sneak peek is just a preview of ch1 of book 1

[silver vine]

It might come later

Who knows?

[copper wave]

usually the books coming next are there months before

[gray dome]

Yeah

[copper wave]

and usually the sneak preview is of said next book

[silver vine]

What IS bookmanager?

[silver vine]

Hmmm

[gray dome]

A book site used to see books before they're on a site like amazon

[copper wave]

maybe the book series is ending leading up to HN2 release?

so graphic novel 2 and then we wait

[tribal talon]

Graphic Novels also yeah

[silver vine]

I hope so

[copper wave]

that also makes me wonder if HN2 really will be the end of the story

[silver vine]

It wont

[tribal talon]

actually might be

if talking about the money from hn they are getting

[silver vine]

I really hope it is , cuz everytime I have to convince my mom to buy them

[tribal talon]

cuz i don't think hn3 will release after 1 year of hn2 release or something like that
they will lost more that they will get

[silver vine]

Why jump to HN3 when HN2 is in its alpha 2

[shrewd dove]

I am waiting for the book to arive I pre ordered it

[tribal talon]

but they can make different stories in hn setting, like they can revive old story, alpha 1 story with old but polished art style

[silver vine]

But how?

[tribal talon]

1. start making the game

[shrewd dove]

I wonder when the raven brooks disaster takes place

[tribal talon]

2. well that's it

[shrewd dove]

They aren’t gonna do that

[silver vine]

I am running out of time tho

So bye

[tribal talon]

they have also animated series

[silver vine]

They wont tho cuz someone has to pick it up

[tribal talon]

which is still in the work and idk if they still have big plans on it

[silver vine]

Some animation studio has to pick it up for it to continue

[vernal kraken]

this one is really good imo

[tribal talon]

good one, last one

[gray dome]

ok

[tribal talon]

yeah ok game's plot did a flip

or idk, looks like Quentin was on a tree at that time

[shrewd dove]

Wonder who is filming that looks kind of like quentin but could be anyone else.

[heavy monolith]

wcr4tv

who do you think

[shrewd dove]

I know, duh but who at channel 4 tv, probably quentin, but you know he isn’t the only one to work there

[heavy monolith]

we see quentin on the stream

his shoulder

so yeah

it is him

[shrewd dove]

Oh ok

I hope the peterson house is available in hn 2 alpha 2

[vivid merlin]

whether act 3 before or after, but I can talk about a fact like this

old look of the neighbor (over 50s) I can say nicely that aaron and nicky are no longer children

either teen or adult (maybe full adult)

[minor kayak]

Quentin and MIH are working together I think

MIH's shadow was next to quentin's

[tribal talon]

yeah but

newer teaser

[minor kayak]

Wdym

That stream was newer. Had new foliage

[left sail]

Mih?

[tribal talon]

it's older

Alexus said it's old

and well you can see how bad it is

i mean they didn't even had animations for cops in the ending

think about it

[minor kayak]

So they removed all the new foliage

Why

And how could they remove the new house for the old stream

There's still leftovers from the teaser in the stream

[tribal talon]

pre show is old

[minor kayak]

MIH is arresting quentin

[minor kayak]

then how are there teaser leftovers

Which is why this is confusing

[vivid merlin]

full game :hga1: act1, hn2a?: act2, ???: act3, ???: act4 and ??????: act5 (rotm: act?)

[tribal talon]

there's even no missing posters

[minor kayak]

MIH is with the police in the stream but hiding from them in the AI trailer. He's with quentin in the stream but is arresting him in HG

[minor kayak]

In the pre stream are there recolored HG trees or new green trees

[tribal talon]

they even messed up here, there's no third car, but cops are already arrived

[minor kayak]

Also why is there just a random bench in the field

[lapis tartan]

grass clipping

[vivid merlin]

the pine tree has not changed but the branches are bent and its height is bowed

[minor kayak]

Also, they removed the tree next to nickys house?