#lore-discussion
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because you know, he's still a kid
stop acting like I am defending the claim I am not bruuuuuuuuh
i'm just saying the fact
what is the point of creating half of the game, where's main antagonist is some random dude
we all want to know what happened with Neighbor
why i should care about someone else
Nvm screw this, neighbor is guest confirm now everyone stops talking about it and moves on to a different more important topic of lore in hn 2
isn't it's main question? What's up with our Neighbor
yeah ok Aaron, probably ran away, did something else, but the Neighbor
||yea, why is he doing this, what is his goals, is he the main antagonist or is someone else behind this, who created the loops, why is the guest kidnapping people, what happened to aaron, nicky and the neighbor||
Nicky moved away
We don't know when
But at some point afterwards he did. Probably years after though
Ohhh yea, my bad lol
Nikita said that Nicky doesn't remember everything perfectly
That's cause he was a kid when it happened
so that's why he's gonna appear in the game
Yea, I am talking about what happened in the huge time gap, that is what hn 2 is about
again, alpha 1 stream
I wonder after all of hn 2 is done, there has to be loose ends, hmm H N 3 :0
everything is from their walkthrough streams
Meh
Not rly
Also sometimes you're in so much shock that you don't realize what happened
Other times it's so traumatic dark thoughts went over the whole thing so you remember it differently
that's why there's huge hecking house in act 2 with huge fence
Wdym
||It literally was confirmed???||
||we dont need images to know that it was Ted under the Guest suit||
don't start this again
just stop
just saying
.
They wasted potential...
They could’ve made an interesting character for The Guest, making him someone from the books.
But they chose the easy option.
Why did they spoil who the Guest is
What
||It was obvious||
||but it ruined the mystery ||
||+ Why would HN2 revolve a random character, it's supposed to be about Ted not some random person||
not really
||I dunno, the fact that you’re invading other houses?||
Are we?
||Plot twist: the game is gonna pull an 180 and show that the guest is actually myA||
||I mean, they can't just scrap it, in fact, neighbor guest's rig has more facial bones than any other character am I right, and with all the ideas and preexisting concept for it is giant, now we are seeing a confirmation of it and saying that HG's main plot isn't clearly scrapped||
Why spoiler tag tho
Wha
Bruh I didn't even say a swear...I think
Ok nevermind

honestly the only reason I'm still not convinced about || Theodore-Guest is because it just seems REALLY stupid to send a picture of yourself to somebody revealing who you are. Somebody smart would try to make someone THINK that's what they're doing, but really their framing someone else. But maybe Guest is Really stupid lol||
||he didnt send himself in the guest costume||
||they only could tell because of the mustache outline earlier in the book||
||I feel like Enzo married Trinity but she's out of town or something. She might have a job that allows her to travel and stuff. So that's why Mari looks after the kids. Also, if they don't mention her, they probably know she's fine and aren't worried about her. ||
||isn't Enzo and trinity like kids?||
||The book is set in the future||
||Yeah Trinity isn't mentioned once||
||Good, because if so, the shipping would begin 😳||
||they were already dating though lmao||
||Ikr||
||this is set in the future after enzo gets married (likely to trinity)||
||also it never says he got married||
||it's likely||
||why wouldn't he get married?||
||idk||
||he's not in book 7 anyway||
||he disappears after a time loop happens||
||he disappears before the time loop||
||like right before||
||the day before to be specific||
||His arms were cut off his legs were cut off||
||ted probably kidnapped him||
he broke the thingy and got sent to the void
||The same day Enzo went missing was the same day Pipers dad died||
||It's already confirmed Ted took him Dwern||
||Ted is those cannibals from the forest that makes totems out of limbs||
||liquify is probably shitting his pants rn after neighbor guest got confirmed||
||Now the question is what does he want from Enzo?||
||Jordy was on the phone when he got kidnapped by Guest||
||money to spend on tf2 items to gamble||
||His legs||
||i'm gonna go with Classics theory for rn||
what's that?
||why||
||ted developed a gambling-tf2-items-for-real-money addiction||
||Classics theory is that cuz Enzo prob has a ring Guest kidnapped him bc he needs everyone who has a ring||
||Ted is all doing this because he thinks it's not real he accidentally switched his contact lenses with Pyro vision contact lenses he bought||
so
||damn, they really copyin Tolkien in a HN book||
||Jordy was on the phone when Enzo smelled something burning, Enzo went to the shop to make sure everything was ok, and i think u know whats next, albeit it doesnt specify in the book||
||tbh I still believe neighbor might not be the guest because they said the guests identity would be revealed in full game of hn2||
||and not a new book||
How old is ted in 2017?
Around 77
77!?
||how is a 60-70 year old running around as the guest, must workout a lot then||
||i mean he's 57 in hn1||
||he so old that Enzo could accidentally have ripped off one of his arms while being kidnapped 💀 ||
this isnt really much but ill mention it anyway
||for like half of the book guest is just described as a shadow||
||because she doesnt see him directly||
||He only chases her like twice too||
||well my grandpa was a gym coach since now and he can't even run properly at 55 so||
||and sends her text msgs||
||You would think at 70 he would be done with all this, but aperently not, what is his motivation?||
||Mr Peterson really let himself go he's tryna stalk little kids on Instagram 😔||
||I’d call the cops to track the number, because the guest has literally admitted he was coming for piper||
||damn he got a preference? killing older kids||
LMAO
||he's so dumb just make him click on a ip logger lol||
Ye
||he tells Piper she cant hide, and that "she" is gone||
||old sharpie wouldn't notice||
||and even asks her where shes gonna run to||
||so its obvious that Guest took both Enzo and Pipers mother||
Some sketchy stuff, idc whether or not he’s admitting to stuff, I’m calling the cops boi
||why are all these people so weak against a 70 year old 💀 One little unexpected move to scare him and he ded||
||plus did you see him in hn 2? They didn’t even pretend he was old, plus that voice in the ai showcase, has to be the guest, because alex said he was in control, and the guest is kidnapping everyone like he did to alex, I’m not saying alex is canon, but that voice is not mr peterson||
||cuz he has plot armor ||
||hn2 is still pretty sure in the early 2000s or late 90s||
||also I like how the ending is cover of the book||
Have you seen the dude in hn1
How fit he is
||why do you like it though||
||we will wait for hn 2 alpha 2, whatever shows up in it has to be not maybe canon, but atleast something in the lore, because a book just came out, like, there’s no way they don’t already have a plan||
But there he's in his late 40s
Hes 51 i think
Not old
the books not even out
then how do you know all this
It will be in a week, it’s all ready done
im like the only active person so far in this community who has the book
how did you get it?
book stores get it early
which stores?
weird
🤷
One question, why is the main art for hello neighbor 2, show the neighbor and guest together??? What are they thinking lol, is it symbiolic? Like the guest lurks behind the neighbor as a way to say they are one in the same? That doesn’t really make sense tho, because you see them in the area, plus symbolism is not the best for marketing, I am confused
go if u want
Yk what I'll just look on the website
the guest actually has a neck compared to the neighbor
Theyre both dummy thicc
||again this was pretty obvious but the Tavishes built the town||
What are they thinking 🤔
They do have it but it costs
I don't have my PayPal account rn so fukx
Do people actually still buy the hn books now though
yes
Explain why the main art for the game shows them together whhhhhhhhy do that
but why for marketing
True the neighbor png is separate from the background with the guest. But take a look at this
Behold!
The shadow of the guest and the neighbor!
Sus
||The shadow 🤔 ||
more S U S
||I wish I had more to share but I don't :sadge:||
||why dont we focus on neighbor guest more with the new book and not the old keyart that doesnt even mean anything||
:tinykappa:
Trol
||People are already gonna find excuses||
Yeah
||you guys know who u are||
:trol:
“As long as there are those that remember what was, there will always be those that are unable to accept what can be.”
-Thanos, Avengers Infinity War (2018)
also if anyone wants a summary just ask ig and i might send it in dms, i have a copypaste
It is kind of weird how they put the guest and neighbor together in the official promotional art :/
Its also kind of weird how they ||put them as the same person in the newest book||
In the ai showcase lead up with the 16 hour footage, at the end it showed the neighbor fleeing the scene, and he looked at the camera in an angry way, but that was the guest looking at him, because it went static and showed the guest looking at static film, who is filming that?
also if anyone has any questions u can ask too
I dont think the guest watching the cam was real, but it was quentin who filmed the neighbor driving away
Since it was the wcr4 cam
Act 2 is Imagination because Nicky’s Trauma is interfering with his actual mind, act 1 happens but who cares what happens after act 1.
Act 2 is real
Act 2 is real
Oh
But deformed by Nickys trauma
Some theorize it's just distorted, some say it's all true
Yeah that makes more sense
But wait, in the beginning of Act 1, Nicky gets caught by the Neighbor and just wakes up in his side of the road, what?!
Neighbor probably threw him over there
After the Neighbor Catches you In HN alpha 2 he throws you out of his house
Which seems very similar to him doing that in act 1
Hmm
Did it just look like Act 1 or something?
I mean, when Nicky escaped, did the house look like the same as Act 1
Just the Act 1 house
I mean
this series is practically magic now anyway so
I wouldnt be surprised
because he already kinda is
not like
he can summon things that kinda thing tho
We all thought the neighbor was just a crazy kidnapper whenever he was actually a wizard
Yeah lol
Sorcerer?
He probably became crazy due to his family slowly dying, then when Nicky tried to intervene, he just got mad and got crazy to the point of kidnapping him, maybe next even killing him if he didn't escape
||raven brooks is a timeline which makes sense||
But seriously, what happened to Nicky after he moved in Act 3?
That makes sense why you can endlessly break into the neighbors house
Well for now gonna guess he just lived a normal life after waking up from his nightmare in Act 3.
||and only raven brooks||
So let me get this straight.
Act 1 is the only one that’s actually, completely real with no distortions?
Yeah pretty much
Act 2 did happen but it was exaggerated by trauma and act 3 house was a dream
I know.
But Act 1 is the only true one, the events are real as shown.
The other two are distorted.
yes
grabs Peterson and Nicky
shoots
throws in garbage
bombs raven brooks
There, no more Hello Neighbor.
Then Raven Brooks time loops and hello neighbor happens forever
excuse me s p o i l e r t a g s
commits nuclear winter
Hey this is #lore-discussion
There, no more Hello Neighbor ever.
If people didn’t want to hear spoilers they wouldn’t be here
Yeah but some people wanna talk about lore without getting spoiled by a book that isn't even out yet
I’m super disappointed.
Oops
Yeah the book isnt even out yet
Oh lord
Yeah
Which makes the extensions in act 2 fake
Act Finale is hey i stronk no more peeteeyssdee
I am about to unleash pure unbridled rage soon.
i’m going to bomb mr peterson’s house
BOOM! 3 DAYS BEFORE RELEASE DATE
https://www.helloneighborgame.com/
But-
|| I think Hello Neighbor Hide and Seek is Not real||
Parts of it are real.
Yeah
Hello neighbor hide and seeks story are real
Only 1% of its real
And the non real parts are obvious.
Only the cutscenes are real
I dont see an issue with it
||The guest used to be something mysterious, now it's... Neighbor man in costume||
We already knew the guest wasn’t a forest protector due to how different they are
I seriously hope they reveal that Mr.Peterson wasn’t The Guest, he trying to help The Guest, and dressed himself as Guest to hide Guest’s real identity.
The guest’s identity cant be secret forever
Yeah, the real identity is mya
spoiler tags for the 100th time
Imagine if Mya was the guest
No it’s Alpha 1 scrapped player.
Aaron is the Guest?
No
His dad did lock him in the basement
Plus if he was the guest he has his dad locked up
Which aaron agreed to
Yeah ur right
Imagine if the scream was because Aaron saw a spider.
Mr Peterson locked a spider in the basement lol
Fun fact: if the tunnels didnt collapse in puzzle master, nicky could have easily escaped without having to exit into the neighbor’s yard
He would be able to get to the factory, mayak, etc
I haven’t read puzzle master
read it
I gusss that’s payback for not putting spoiler warnings on
Well it was 4 months ago
Also you don't need to put spoiler tag anymore (for book 6)
Wow
Yes i know its super epic
book 7 tho yeah u need tags bc its not even out yet
I know
Vido will probably add the spoiler channel back once it releases
but i get it early because for some reason my store gets it early 
Can we talk about how hn2 full game could literally show guest neighbor and it would still be denied
Because Guest Neighbor will be mentioned as Aaron
Aaron is secretly theodore
Also we were teased of neighbor being the guest long ago
Its not that much of a surprise
I am still wondering what happened to Aaron. They never say what actually happened to him
The guest was hardly mysterious since we were shown ted in the guest suit before hgp even was found
People told me that those were misleading teasers made to fool us.
People are weird then
And also that was very early in development, so people thought that it would be scrapped like the biblical references from the old alphas
Because its a lot of work put into a face test for it to be a misleading teaser
But the old alphas were before hn had a set story
This time is different
True that
Because we still know hg, mayak, rotm, etc are gonna be in hn2 release
Yeah, I can't wait for that
But I'm still thinking of what could've happened to Aaron. I have a feeling he's just going to pop up out of nowhere eventually. I mean we never got to see what actually happened to him
I think the guest will burn down the house instead of aaron
He keeps getting associated with fire
||even in reset day||
What made you think Aaron burns down the house?
Didn't the Townspeople burn down the Golden Apple. I always thought that they burned down Peterson's house. "Raven Brooks, come for the tragedies and stay for the burnings"
Around when hs was announced im pretty sure they said it would show what happened to the house
And then stage 3
But its probably the guest who did it
||Also yeah Ted is associated with fire in Reset Day||
Yeah, Aaron's an arsonist in the making
||If you're around him you'll smell burning||
||So keep that in mind when you're reading the book||
And the smoke effects
Guest mask is burnt in announcement trailer
Guest throws tv in fire in ai trailer
Guest is in front of fire in the shocktober keyart
||But why would Ted burn his own house?||
And player uses fire against Guest in HG announcement trailer
So like
He is associated with fire a LOT
But why would he?
Seems like a very bad coping mechanism
well that's ted 🤦
Yeah, he's a bit weird
Since the final of HN1 seemed to imply he never actually got over his problems/memories/trauma I figure he'd have bad solutions trying to cope tbh
So Act 3 takes place after everything else? Well, I have to go erase part of my Novel's plot
we don't know yet
but tbh if you want to write stories, imo you should just have fun writing them
Yet again they probably weren't planning for a story as big and convoluted story as big as this
i don't think there's anything wrong with having a different interpretation of the series
and since what we know keeps changing/expanding-
Thanks for convincing me not to completely start over on my novel.
Here's the description they always put with said novel.
Victor Rejzhon, a kid of a family falling apart before his own eyes. Being forced to move to a small obscure city called Cardinal Creek, he attempts to suppress the emotions of his mother by drowning himself on his computer and hiding away in his room.
However when his only sibling goes missing he teams up with a group of kids who've all lost somebody. During their investigations they discover that something deeper is actually going on... beyond the creek, in the ruins of a city half burnt down nearly 10 years ago... Raven Brooks
They'll be forced to outrun, outsmart, and outwit people dressed up as birds, team up with mysterious survivors, and uncover the secrets... beyond the creek
It’d make sense for Act 3 to be before HN2 if the burning theory is correct.

My brain died when it wrote that.

.
If Nicky appears as a playable character in HN2, they need to remake the Alpha 2 cutscene.
Where Nicky goes to sleep, Mr Peterson drugs him, and throws him out of his house.
Nicky will be in hn2 but idk if playable
tbh that was one of the best cutscene sequences
just the camera work and aesthetics
Its one of the only good old cutscenes
From before release
Others are alpha 3 and 4 intro
I have a love hate relationship with the old artstyle.
ye
I have a hate one
The old maps with the art style looked good, but empty.
it feels weird seeing HN1 artstyle now after how detailed HN2 one is
Plot twist: pre alpha to alpha 2 plot and alpha 3 to beta 3 plots are their own timelines
I really wish Nicky was always an adult.
Like the old builds.
It felt like instead of knowing Mr Peterson forever, he got curious and decided to check what was inside the basement.
.
Okay, let me rephrase that.
Instead of knowing Mr Peterson forever, it felt like Mr P was this omnipotent threat, he wasn’t just your enemy, he was everyone’s enemy, you were just the guy to put an end to it.
What if they take place in different universes?? 😳
I just thought about something.
What if Pre Alpha and Alpha 1 are canon?
With them taking place between act 2 and 3.
Mr P captures a middle aged man and a man with scratches on his fingers.
No
I've thought about it tbh, like with the Guest situation rn Don't see why those couldn't happen
And maybe the reason why Pre Alpha and Alpha 1 look realistic is because of how the two protags see the world.
What
Not colorful and joyful.
You mean because nikita wanted to change the style of the game
Yeah.
I’m just giving a reason.
If it happened in my theory.
Basically since the two players are adults, (in my eyes 40-60) they see the world differently than Nicky.
Nicky is 32

You know what, nevermind.
I’m going back to tree.
.
Let me explain.
Let’s say that the two captured men were captured in 2001, and were around 50-60.
They’d see the world as a more grimmer place.
Yes, I know I’m dumb.
But I’m proud of it.
I kinda want to think he died.
Like, basically Ted burns his house down.
Then he forgets Aaron and runs to save him.
He gets trapped under a board.
Then Aaron saves him.
Or at least that’s what I like to think.
Oh, I forgot to add that aaron burns to death
Boom
Problem solved.
The name is quite epic
||Liquify explaining why technically actually Aaron could be guest still:||
There is still possibilities because the neighbor wouldn't stay as guest for like 19 years lt makes no sense
and also they said they would reveal him in hn2 full game
so Why reveal him now in a book?
There are reasons
No.1 Buff Neighbor isnt the Guest
Hello Neighbor 2 takes place in 90s
Whereas Neighbor took the identity of the guest in present day
Some how with time travel shnanigans present day Neighbor comes in contact with Buff neighbor from 90s
They couldnt explain this in video game cutscenes
Thats why they revealed him in a book
in case you haven't noticed they already revealed him 2 years ago
damn
@paper shadow UMM
what is going on here
who put that
what is he doing
Lore is cool
he thinks if he removed it they can't ban him
yes

what the hell is happening here
this is lore discussion for ya
Stop
bro this server doesn't even have this bot
The Guest Network
So funny
The Neighbor took the identity of the guest in present day timeline
But then HN2 takes place in the 90s
poggers
And both buff neighbor and guest is there
How did present time neighbor come in contact with buff neighbor from 90s?
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Dont post random stuff
yes
don't post random stuff about me saying random stuff when it's a channel about lore discussion
Isn’t it just the tavishes fault that lucy yi died? Because even though Mr Peterson made some questionable ride choices, they forced Mr Peterson to rush production, meaning parts could be falty, atleast they had to pay for it and no Mr Peterson.
TRUE
Can anyone answer my question?
They didn’t come in contact probably, unless... oh my.. the guest isn’t the neighbor, he’s FUTURE neighbor lol
T I M E
yes
T R A V E L
time warp
He is future neighbor
Book 7 confirms this
Either the guest doesn’t appear until after the neighbor became the guest, the guest is someone else, or future neighbor went as the guest and came back, that explains stuff, but whynis future neighbor trying to stop buff neighbor from doing stuff?
Then dont come to lore discussion
I think they are working together
But the buff neighbor got locked up by the guest/future neighbor
Thats only alpha
Maybe the time loop is happening, because the guest/future neighbor is trying to figure out how to go back in time to stop buff neighbor or help buff neighbor on his past mistakes, because the neighbor’s life went in ruins it feels like
does the Alpha connect to Hello Neighbor lore?
That explains why the guest and neighbor are seen together before
But buff neighbor is in gray mansion now
it also explains how the guest has all this past footage in the showcase
And IGN say there are gonna be multiple neighbors
ummm
he didn’t mean multiple petersons tho
Yeah
that would be funny
lol
But neighbor can be in gray manor and guest can be in blue house
oh no
here is my neighbor buff neighbor, then here is future/stick neighbor, and can’t forget baby neighbor!
:0
Neighbor exersied

||also with the fact we know time travel exists now, how do we know if there wasnt timeloops before reset days specific time loop||
wait i never knew
Time travel? I tought only time loop exists
||here are the 3 possibilites, 1. Someone else is the guest and there is no time travel, if there is, someone else is going back in time, either trying to look like peterson or not, whether trying to help or hurt him is unknown. 2. Future neighbor is causing these time loops to try to figure out how to go back in time to stop the neighbor or help him from his past mistakes, future neighbor is kidnapping people to try to figure, it out, or is trying to get people out of the loop he caused I am not sure why he is kidnapping people, 3. neighbor is guest in the future and there is no time travel not to much to say with that||
i like number 2
Yea me too
i mean makes sence
||neighbor is the guest and there are time loops||
but, then where is the threat, there has to be something else to it
He was curesd
||i believe he is kidnapping people to take the gemstones they have that allow them to not be effected by the loops||
yes
yesss
The Crow is the|| Forest ||Protector right?||||
In ending of HN1 we see that neighbor didnt overcome his fears , so future neighbor (Guest) might be helping to overcome his fears
no
||what if the neighbor is not the main bad, what if past characters come back and are the real bad guys, but neighbor is probably the bad guy, but I wonder what his end plan is||
oh
Forest protector is a long busted myth and guesst is neighbor
||the ravens are the forest protectors||
||gordon is the true series antagonist||
Thats secret society
||yes||
Main antagonist of 2nd trilogy
Probably not, maybe trying to help fix stuff, or he is against the neighbor, why else would the guest be locking the neighbor up, whether the alphas are canon or not, why is he trying to lock him up?
||they were where the FP myth came from||
I dont think the Neighbor is a bad person but he did alot of stuuf in the past
||he caused lucy yi's death||
Yea, he is an interesting character, but we don’t know what he looks like
In this latest alpha he is not trying to lock him up tho
TRUE
How? Sorry I need a refresher I am re reading all the books tooo
just hoping the Guest will take out his mask
He will in HN2 full release
imagen he is the thing
Alex said
Ye
Thing is long gone
Yo it is confirmed to be the neighbor
In book 7
ye
When the spoiler isnt tagged
so no more Aaron guest
I dont know how to tag it
||spoiler tags
||
||he tried to kill mya with the devices||
Can someone teach me
||lucy got in first||
who did
True
||where mya was supposed to sit||
who did
I read all the books too
The thing is not a real thing, just a thing that represents a certain character, to Nicky the thing represents the neighbor, to the neighbor the thing represents Aaron, there is proof of that because to Nicky the thing is the height of an adult, to the Neighbor the thing is the height of s kid.
Do "| |" then text then "| |" again minus the space in between them
Except book 7 tho
rip that failed
Yeah
Neighbor never overcome his fears
oh yea, he is using the devices to bring bad luck too
||Nicky had to overcome his fears||
I think thats why future neighbor came to his past
You don’t need to put spoils over past content, just reset day stuff since it isn’t out yet, if you come to this chat expect spoilers for past stuff lol
To overcome his fears
Nicky is scared of maniquins a lot too
they aren’t that hard tho, the fear school is just hiding in lockers and timing it right
yea is a bit hard, not something you can really teach in a tutorial most I can say is listen for sounds and time it right
I remember I heard a theory about the guest. The theory is that the costume is actually a mascot costume from the golden apple amusement park. The reason being is that in the golden apple amusement park you see guest statues everywhere, and just bird imagery in general. Has anyone else heard this theory?
me
guest got his outfit from the trash
so it's almost 100% true
Probably he was walking around the golden apple and he found the costume in the trash and was all like, "Oh hey, a costume. I'm going to kidnap people in it"
Guys I just had a theory, maybe the mascot/theme of the golden apple amusement park, is a golden apple, sounds crazy
ye
Have you seen the gaap? It always changes, plus the place was open for a day, and in that day there was no mention of anything related to crows
and in HG's gaap there's guest statues everywhere
after it closessss
In the books there is no mention of crows, the guest must of changed it for some reason, maybe to scare people away, it sort of scared quentin in hg
there's mentions of crows what
Guys. Proof number 2111342 that fnaf and hn are related: Crying child and mya are the same
No I mean there is no mention of the guest or crows as a theme in caap
gaap
not caap lol
Both: striped shirt, has a a favorite toy that stays with them, killed by older brother, kid of antagonist, saddest death of franchise (i have more)
hn and fnaf crossover when 😳
Your telling me the guest would purposely build massive statues of himself to scare off people. Scaring people is not worth that much time and effort. Also where is he getting all of the stuff to not only build these things but place them?
I mean considering hello engineer is apparently canon it's not a stretch
Idk how much of what he built is canon, because hn act 2 had not canon stuff in it, either way they would mention it in the books
excuse me WHAT
Okay, let me get this straight.
A game where you build stuff on an island is canon.
AHAHAHSHS
AAA
WHY
It could be the kids imagining being in one of the rides
The kids imagine things quite differently than how they seem
In facy I have a feeling that the kids never left the campfire in secret neighbor and were instead thinking of everything that could happen in Petersons house. Like Enzo would be all like, "But what if he can shapeshift!? What if he can build rockets?" And Trinity is all like, "Enzo shut the hell up..."
Wasn’t Enzo against the idea that Mr P was a bad guy (in their eyes)
No, Enzo is scared of Mr Peterson in the books and cartoon
Oh
They should’ve used the Pre-Alpha house for Act 3.
||And then he ends up getting kidnapped by him||
Makes sense, since act 2 is mostly fake (some things that happened didn’t actually happen)
Ye
?
Thing is... Nicky is just stupid and thinks that there are giant walls when there isn't none, so the walls aren't there in the first place, same with the second and third floor, it's just Nicky's imagination
hi
again
In secret neighbor the only person missing is Nicky
and in the cartoon
all the kids seem to be the same age
so in secret neighbor is saving nick
we need to talk about the hn2 and HG lore
👍
yah thx
also the crow man (the guest) is Mr. P's son
I don’t believe that
The guest head is a lot smaller than mr p’s head
Peterson's son (Aaron) is still a kid in hn2
no
Oh so he pulled a vacuum out of his pockets and you weren't judging that
||the guest could be mr peterson from the future||
it must have been awhile after
||It was literally confirmed in reset day that he is the neighbor||
hahahaha... no😑
It is
If you read the hello neighbor wiki the guest is not human
The Guest is human
yes
And wiki isn't right
he has two hands
||I said he is the neighbor, did you read it?||
gorilla
bruh
lol
I'm sorry lol
What about the sounds he makes
That's an urban legend from Raven Brooks, the Forest Protectors are a humanoid raven like creature that drink children's blood (but that's not true) the Forest Protectors are actually just a cult of people
one loophole
It's wood dropping
Those are gameplay choices, he can talk in the books
aaron is NO longer a child, I don't verify it any other way
yes thank you
ok
I never seen the guest in the books
Peterson has a lot of engineering skills and is a park designer, of course he could pull off a fake humanoid sound
With some tech
so he isthe neighbors son getting revenge
He is a child, hn2 happens during act 2
and what is up wth it?
and thatswhat going on
||The way reset day is going, I would be fine to beleive the guest is the neighbor from the future, it would explain all the evidence on the neighbor guest and anti neighbor guest sides||
what kra
mmmm I don't think so and stop pinging me
that could not be
He is
possible
Why is the guest scared of light then
he is a gmaer
Ok so if HN2A2 happens during act 2
a ga,er
@agile hare and
why is the house so different
@agile hare** NO**
because it has been a long time
and that wouldnt make HN2 a sequle it would be a prequle
I wonder if there will be a time gap somewhere in hn 2, idk tho, because it’s kind of a sandbox game, which doesn’t usually have time gaps
yeah
Mr p changed the layout in act 2
why is mr.p doing with the basement'
is the new book good
i might buy it today
I have a question
Nah, it wouldn't be neither of those it would be just an expansion of what we haven't seen in between act 1 and act 2
but see drawing of his children
omg THE LORE
I bet the basement will either be a side quest, or not a present goal in hello neighbor 2
and himsalef
that is his son vandalisng to get revenge
I only read two
MAI DAB
and show his father what he went through
since we already know what’s in the basement, not too big of a point on going in, I wonder what’s the goal of hello neighbor 2 alpha 2, because it’s in the new house
after he killed the girl
lol and ur pfp is from the 3rd book
unless thats one that u read
Soooo
we need to wait tiil alpha 2 releases
yes
Also by the way, it was also confirmed that alpha 1 isn't canon (that also includes alpha 1.5 since it's also a part of alpha 1 technically)
agh is the new book good or not
so it is comfirmed
ive asked 3 times
Crow man= Aron
Not sure
There is an image of a glowing key behind a cage door, so he need to get to some door
no
No?
Maybe
It's just no
why not
it takes place betweeen act 2 and 3
And so is Nicky in hn2
Oh ya forgot
he's still like 13 or 14
||unless the aaron grew a mustache and there is a time gap, then aaron isn’t the guest||
thats what weve been doing this whole time
Aaron is locked in the basement with him
Guest looks like a 50 or 40 year old man
lol
Lol
child predator
ew
Aaron is still locked inside the basement tho
illegal
Guest is not human
but quintin and beatrix arnt children
a very athletic 50-60 year old man
He's human..
how would you know that?
Guest is a psycho
the guest can talk, I am pretty sure he is human
someone get a picture of him right beside the neighbor
For 1 he’s scared of lights
agh my discord is lagging
lol
For 2 the sounds he makes
help
And so is Peterson, God, that man is doing that home exercises all the time even tho there's a kid breaking in his house all the time
why is Guest afraid of lights?
He isn't in hn2, also some parts of HG were scrapped
||probably using some witch craft, I mean why not at this point lol||
Wood dropping sounds, Peterson can pull off a sound making device
Ik
Ik Hg got scrapped
It isn't fully scrapped
If he used a sound device where would he put it
The Mill and neighbor Guest isn't scrapped
yes
How am I spamming? Idk man
or the dective is aron
bots are dumb
it is possile
But well... I gotta go, since y'all don't believe, even tho there's cleaner evidence then ever before
No
Is his beak? Man.. We saw him pulling off a full apple, and there's also that lil pocket thing is his costume, and not talking about how he literally pulled a full blown plank out of thin air in alpha 1.5
No
I don’t see it in his beak
guest=COCO ALIEN
Nicky is still a kid and is missing
And so don't you see the apple 
lore is hard
But now I gotta go
It was confirmed
guest is not aron
the man in the hat is probably norman darby, mith probably keeps his identity a secret since he is thought dead
Yes
I agree
I accepted it that way and I believe it that way
...............
nothing is scrap in my eyes
the guest is an embryo
I can open a heavy topic here right now, but I'm silent, I think if you keep quiet, I will never talk about it.
since ||mr peterson|| is the guest, why would he have a ||forest protector like suit|| I thought he was ||against|| the raven society’s ways
Ik
read the books
A cult
kind of
oh a cult in the HN universe
nvm just read the books and you will know, the prequal ones give info on that
The universe hn makes sense to me and I'm balancing the story in the right direction, on the other hand it doesn't look that way at all
like @left sail told me
Manly
?
and don't forget it ''sometimes you have to believe what you see, not what you hear ''
ok
think like this if the game doesn't tell the date or name or things like that
||it isnt a forest protector||
||it's likely an extremely worn down GAAP mascot suit||
ok?
The guest is not the mascot of the GAAP, the guest is a forest protector sort of suit, made to resemble the urban legend or human crow like creatures. The GAAP was only open for a day, and there was no mention of it having a mascot, the theme/mascot is a golden apple, it would seem random to have a crow anyways. The guest found the suit in the trash probably from someone who left it from the raven society or something. The big statues are there at the park because, either the guest, or the someone else, built it, I think if the guest is ||mr peterson, it would make sense for him to build it because mr peterson is an engineering||, but it’s unclear what’s canon and what’s not in hg
what is GAAP
Golden apple amusement park
||it isn't one of the ravens tho||
||they have completely different suits||
OH
ye, so idk how the costume got there, but it isn’t part of the park
so the guest is the mising GAAP mascot?
No
||i mean it could be||
Ok?
||it resembles the crows in some of GAAP's marketing and buildings||
||OH||
||also the fact that it's IN the gaap in HG||
The park was open for a day and the mascot is a golden apple, not really an actual mascot but a theme at least. It can’t be a crow as a mascot, because the brand of golden apple is a just what the name is, it would be random for it to be a crow mascot, the books mention nothing of crows as mascots, I feel like that would be enough
||well yeah he is in HG so shouldn't he be the missing GAAP mascot?||
||i know, but the crow statues||
||they probably weren't built by someone else||
i heard that there was a death which is why is was abbondoned
||they would've been taken down by the property owners||
ok
hg might not even be canon, the crow statues only appear after it closes proving it was not made by the golden apple brand or mr peterson
also it was proved ||mr peterson is the guest in reset day, so if mr peterson made it, he is an engineering, he build a whole underground amusement park single handedly for aaron in the basement, not too far of a stretch for him to make a statue, doesn’t really make sense how he could get away with it, but the statue atracts lightning so it has a use||
||hg isn't scrapped||
Also it’s closed and I’m pretty sure the golden apple brand is in bankrupsy, that part of town is closed
||so it is canon||
that doesn’t mean it’s canon
||yes but another company owns the property||
How do you know?
They don’t do anything with it tho lol
||why do you think Beatrix and Quentin are being paid to guard it||
Maybe tillman‘s was trying to make it into a horror themed park with crows as a theme, but it must of not worked, if that is true, maybe tillman’s has a relation to the raven society or the guest idk
and
The crow statue atracts lightning so something fishy is going on with tillman’s lol
but either way it means the guest is not a mascot of the gaap, maybe of what tillman’s is trying to do tho
my story and there is no such thing as canon in my opinion
||it's likely metal||
||and some metal types attract lightning||
mayak
Well yea, but it is pointed out a lot in the hg, so it must of been of purpose, because I am sure any other cheaper metal would of worked
I think the gaap will come back in hn 2 some how, hg and hn 2 aren’t the same so, not in the same way as hg, but some way let’s hope
books have like 100000 times more lore than the alphas, since usually the alphas aren’t canon to much, they will still hint at a lot tho
oh
i just wanna know]
when it will come out
maybe in the first week of may
really?
Eerie guest studios right now is focused on giving us some lore, but over all in the alphas it’s making the game better an better for players
It isn’t cancelled lol
yay
Take da
t
plus tiny and eerie will not cancel some thing hey worked so hard on
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hey
Can anyone explain what this is? I know it’s in the secret ending, but, they took all the time to make this neighbor mask, and this neighbor model has the eyes closed, and the ears are different, it must be mr peterson because of the head and clothes he also has the gloves of the guest and long arms, but this looks like mr peterson at the absolute edge of complete insanity, weird
supposed to be in prototype ending
that's supposed to be The Man In The Hat
yeah
I know it’s fake neighbor, and yes the ears are mith’s ears
Mith, but with fake Neighbor's mask
Not really
yes it is
the face is also a modified mith's face
Mith looks kind of like that, but not really
it also uses mith's face texture
NF is taller than Mith
Mith has a pointy nose tho
This isn’t nft it’s fake neighbor
it has full head model, Neighbor's hair
it's a heavily modified mith face
I didn't say NFT 
