#lore-discussion

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minor kayak
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Aaron is still a kid. Unless the time jump is WAAAY into the future then there's no way

tribal talon
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because you know, he's still a kid

shrewd dove
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stop acting like I am defending the claim I am not bruuuuuuuuh

tribal talon
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i'm just saying the fact

minor kayak
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we aren't talking to you then

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we're just pointing things out

tribal talon
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what is the point of creating half of the game, where's main antagonist is some random dude

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we all want to know what happened with Neighbor
why i should care about someone else

shrewd dove
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Nvm screw this, neighbor is guest confirm now everyone stops talking about it and moves on to a different more important topic of lore in hn 2

tribal talon
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isn't it's main question? What's up with our Neighbor

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yeah ok Aaron, probably ran away, did something else, but the Neighbor

shrewd dove
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||yea, why is he doing this, what is his goals, is he the main antagonist or is someone else behind this, who created the loops, why is the guest kidnapping people, what happened to aaron, nicky and the neighbor||

minor kayak
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Nicky moved away

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We don't know when

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But at some point afterwards he did. Probably years after though

shrewd dove
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Ohhh yea, my bad lol

tribal talon
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Nikita said that Nicky doesn't remember everything perfectly

minor kayak
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That's cause he was a kid when it happened

tribal talon
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so that's why he's gonna appear in the game

shrewd dove
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Yea, I am talking about what happened in the huge time gap, that is what hn 2 is about

minor kayak
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I don't remember anything from 10 years ago, or even 5 tbh

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QnA

tribal talon
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again, alpha 1 stream

shrewd dove
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I wonder after all of hn 2 is done, there has to be loose ends, hmm H N 3 :0

tribal talon
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everything is from their walkthrough streams

minor kayak
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Meh

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Not rly

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Also sometimes you're in so much shock that you don't realize what happened

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Other times it's so traumatic dark thoughts went over the whole thing so you remember it differently

tribal talon
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that's why there's huge hecking house in act 2 with huge fence

minor kayak
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Wdym

gray dome
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||It literally was confirmed???||

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||we dont need images to know that it was Ted under the Guest suit||

tribal talon
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don't start this again

gray dome
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just saying

torpid sinew
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.

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They wasted potential...

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They could’ve made an interesting character for The Guest, making him someone from the books.

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But they chose the easy option.

whole elbow
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Why did they spoil who the Guest is

torpid sinew
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O-

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SORRY

whole elbow
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What

torpid sinew
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.

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||I’m upset that Peterson is The Guest.||

gray dome
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||It was obvious||

torpid sinew
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||but it ruined the mystery ||

gray dome
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||+ Why would HN2 revolve a random character, it's supposed to be about Ted not some random person||

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not really

torpid sinew
tribal talon
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Are we?

whole elbow
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||Plot twist: the game is gonna pull an 180 and show that the guest is actually myA||

torpid sinew
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I heard about it.

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I haven’t checked to confirm though.

agile hare
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||I mean, they can't just scrap it, in fact, neighbor guest's rig has more facial bones than any other character am I right, and with all the ideas and preexisting concept for it is giant, now we are seeing a confirmation of it and saying that HG's main plot isn't clearly scrapped||

tribal talon
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Why spoiler tag tho

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Wha

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Bruh I didn't even say a swear...I think

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Ok nevermind

tribal talon
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should i mark raven brooks as an scp

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Yes or no

vernal kraken
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honestly the only reason I'm still not convinced about || Theodore-Guest is because it just seems REALLY stupid to send a picture of yourself to somebody revealing who you are. Somebody smart would try to make someone THINK that's what they're doing, but really their framing someone else. But maybe Guest is Really stupid lol||

minor kayak
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||he didnt send himself in the guest costume||

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||they only could tell because of the mustache outline earlier in the book||

tribal talon
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||I feel like Enzo married Trinity but she's out of town or something. She might have a job that allows her to travel and stuff. So that's why Mari looks after the kids. Also, if they don't mention her, they probably know she's fine and aren't worried about her. ||

coarse crater
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||isn't Enzo and trinity like kids?||

tribal talon
gray dome
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||Yeah Trinity isn't mentioned once||

agile hare
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||Good, because if so, the shipping would begin 😳||

tribal talon
agile hare
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||Ikr||

tribal talon
gray dome
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||also it never says he got married||

tribal talon
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||it's likely||

coarse crater
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||why wouldn't he get married?||

tribal talon
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||idk||

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||he's not in book 7 anyway||

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||he disappears after a time loop happens||

gray dome
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||he disappears before the time loop||

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||like right before||

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||the day before to be specific||

coarse crater
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||His arms were cut off his legs were cut off||

tribal talon
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||ted probably kidnapped him||

vernal kraken
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he broke the thingy and got sent to the void

gray dome
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||The same day Enzo went missing was the same day Pipers dad died||

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||It's already confirmed Ted took him Dwern||

tribal talon
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||knew it||

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||kidnapped by the guest||

coarse crater
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||Ted is those cannibals from the forest that makes totems out of limbs||

tribal talon
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||liquify is probably shitting his pants rn after neighbor guest got confirmed||

versed yacht
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||Now the question is what does he want from Enzo?||

gray dome
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||Jordy was on the phone when he got kidnapped by Guest||

tribal talon
coarse crater
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||His legs||

gray dome
vernal kraken
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what's that?

coarse crater
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||why||

tribal talon
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||ted developed a gambling-tf2-items-for-real-money addiction||

gray dome
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||Classics theory is that cuz Enzo prob has a ring Guest kidnapped him bc he needs everyone who has a ring||

coarse crater
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||Ted is all doing this because he thinks it's not real he accidentally switched his contact lenses with Pyro vision contact lenses he bought||

gray dome
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so

tribal talon
gray dome
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||Jordy was on the phone when Enzo smelled something burning, Enzo went to the shop to make sure everything was ok, and i think u know whats next, albeit it doesnt specify in the book||

coarse crater
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||tbh I still believe neighbor might not be the guest because they said the guests identity would be revealed in full game of hn2||

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||and not a new book||

shrewd dove
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How old is ted in 2017?

coarse crater
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Around 77

shrewd dove
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jee

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z

tribal talon
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77!?

coarse crater
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He prob died from covid

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already

shrewd dove
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||how is a 60-70 year old running around as the guest, must workout a lot then||

tribal talon
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||i mean he's 57 in hn1||

gray dome
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||He's described as being skinny too||

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||well not skinny||

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||but long limbs||

coarse crater
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||he so old that Enzo could accidentally have ripped off one of his arms while being kidnapped 💀 ||

tribal talon
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||i mean since he works out||

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||he's still possibly tough||

gray dome
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this isnt really much but ill mention it anyway

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||for like half of the book guest is just described as a shadow||

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||because she doesnt see him directly||

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||He only chases her like twice too||

coarse crater
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||well my grandpa was a gym coach since now and he can't even run properly at 55 so||

gray dome
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||and sends her text msgs||

shrewd dove
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||You would think at 70 he would be done with all this, but aperently not, what is his motivation?||

coarse crater
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||Mr Peterson really let himself go he's tryna stalk little kids on Instagram 😔||

gray dome
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||also mind you Pipers only in 8th grade||

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||Delia is in 6th||

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||so like||

shrewd dove
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||I’d call the cops to track the number, because the guest has literally admitted he was coming for piper||

coarse crater
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||damn he got a preference? killing older kids||

coarse crater
shrewd dove
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Ye

gray dome
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||he tells Piper she cant hide, and that "she" is gone||

coarse crater
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||old sharpie wouldn't notice||

gray dome
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||and even asks her where shes gonna run to||

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||so its obvious that Guest took both Enzo and Pipers mother||

shrewd dove
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Some sketchy stuff, idc whether or not he’s admitting to stuff, I’m calling the cops boi

coarse crater
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||why are all these people so weak against a 70 year old 💀 One little unexpected move to scare him and he ded||

shrewd dove
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||plus did you see him in hn 2? They didn’t even pretend he was old, plus that voice in the ai showcase, has to be the guest, because alex said he was in control, and the guest is kidnapping everyone like he did to alex, I’m not saying alex is canon, but that voice is not mr peterson||

coarse crater
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||hn2 is still pretty sure in the early 2000s or late 90s||

gray dome
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||also I like how the ending is cover of the book||

heavy monolith
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How fit he is

coarse crater
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||why do you like it though||

shrewd dove
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||we will wait for hn 2 alpha 2, whatever shows up in it has to be not maybe canon, but atleast something in the lore, because a book just came out, like, there’s no way they don’t already have a plan||

coarse crater
heavy monolith
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Hes 51 i think

coarse crater
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Not old

coarse crater
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then how do you know all this

shrewd dove
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It will be in a week, it’s all ready done

gray dome
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im like the only active person so far in this community who has the book

tribal talon
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how did you get it?

shrewd dove
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A

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ya

gray dome
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book stores get it early

tribal talon
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which stores?

gray dome
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dont ask me just ask the people who ship them

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uh

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idk

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certain countries

tribal talon
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weird

gray dome
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I pre order mine tho at the store

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mine is indigo cuz im in canada

coarse crater
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I have a book store nearby

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I could go look they probably are open

gray dome
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🤷

shrewd dove
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One question, why is the main art for hello neighbor 2, show the neighbor and guest together??? What are they thinking lol, is it symbiolic? Like the guest lurks behind the neighbor as a way to say they are one in the same? That doesn’t really make sense tho, because you see them in the area, plus symbolism is not the best for marketing, I am confused

gray dome
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go if u want

coarse crater
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Yk what I'll just look on the website

coarse crater
heavy monolith
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Theyre both dummy thicc

gray dome
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||again this was pretty obvious but the Tavishes built the town||

shrewd dove
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What are they thinking 🤔

coarse crater
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They do have it but it costs

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I don't have my PayPal account rn so fukx

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Do people actually still buy the hn books now though

gray dome
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yes

shrewd dove
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Explain why the main art for the game shows them together whhhhhhhhy do that

heavy monolith
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The main art is just a neighbor png slapped on a keyart

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Theyre separate

shrewd dove
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but why for marketing

gusty sand
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True the neighbor png is separate from the background with the guest. But take a look at this

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Behold!

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The shadow of the guest and the neighbor!

shrewd dove
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Sus

gray dome
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||The shadow 🤔 ||

shrewd dove
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more S U S

gray dome
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||I wish I had more to share but I don't :sadge:||

heavy monolith
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||why dont we focus on neighbor guest more with the new book and not the old keyart that doesnt even mean anything||

gray dome
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:tinykappa:

heavy monolith
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Trol

gray dome
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||People are already gonna find excuses||

heavy monolith
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Yeah

gray dome
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||you guys know who u are||

heavy monolith
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:trol:

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“As long as there are those that remember what was, there will always be those that are unable to accept what can be.”

-Thanos, Avengers Infinity War (2018)

gray dome
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also if anyone wants a summary just ask ig and i might send it in dms, i have a copypaste

shrewd dove
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It is kind of weird how they put the guest and neighbor together in the official promotional art :/

heavy monolith
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Its also kind of weird how they ||put them as the same person in the newest book||

shrewd dove
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In the ai showcase lead up with the 16 hour footage, at the end it showed the neighbor fleeing the scene, and he looked at the camera in an angry way, but that was the guest looking at him, because it went static and showed the guest looking at static film, who is filming that?

gray dome
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also if anyone has any questions u can ask too

heavy monolith
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Since it was the wcr4 cam

hushed pasture
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Act 2 is Imagination because Nicky’s Trauma is interfering with his actual mind, act 1 happens but who cares what happens after act 1.

gray dome
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Act 2 is real

oak mirage
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Act 2 is real

hushed pasture
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Oh

gray dome
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But deformed by Nickys trauma

oak mirage
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Some theorize it's just distorted, some say it's all true

hushed pasture
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Yeah that makes more sense

gray dome
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I can get Nikita's msg

oak mirage
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So how did Act 2 look like canonically?

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Without distortion I mean

hushed pasture
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@strange lance said sn was imagination

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Is it?

oak mirage
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But wait, in the beginning of Act 1, Nicky gets caught by the Neighbor and just wakes up in his side of the road, what?!

hushed pasture
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Neighbor probably threw him over there

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After the Neighbor Catches you In HN alpha 2 he throws you out of his house

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Which seems very similar to him doing that in act 1

oak mirage
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Hmm

oak mirage
hushed pasture
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Idk maybe the neighbor is magic Idk

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Act 1 is real but occurred in Nicky’s Dreams

oak mirage
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I mean, when Nicky escaped, did the house look like the same as Act 1

gray dome
gray dome
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this series is practically magic now anyway so

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I wouldnt be surprised

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because he already kinda is

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not like

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he can summon things that kinda thing tho

hushed pasture
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We all thought the neighbor was just a crazy kidnapper whenever he was actually a wizard

oak mirage
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Yeah lol

hushed pasture
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Sorcerer?

oak mirage
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He probably became crazy due to his family slowly dying, then when Nicky tried to intervene, he just got mad and got crazy to the point of kidnapping him, maybe next even killing him if he didn't escape

hushed pasture
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||raven brooks is a timeline which makes sense||

oak mirage
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But seriously, what happened to Nicky after he moved in Act 3?

hushed pasture
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That makes sense why you can endlessly break into the neighbors house

oak mirage
gray dome
torpid sinew
# gray dome

So let me get this straight.
Act 1 is the only one that’s actually, completely real with no distortions?

gusty sand
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Yeah pretty much

torpid sinew
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grabs xbox

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smashes

gusty sand
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Act 2 did happen but it was exaggerated by trauma and act 3 house was a dream

torpid sinew
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I know.

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But Act 1 is the only true one, the events are real as shown.

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The other two are distorted.

torpid sinew
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shoots

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throws in garbage

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bombs raven brooks

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There, no more Hello Neighbor.

hushed pasture
gray dome
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excuse me s p o i l e r t a g s

torpid sinew
hushed pasture
torpid sinew
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There, no more Hello Neighbor ever.

hushed pasture
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If people didn’t want to hear spoilers they wouldn’t be here

gray dome
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Yeah but some people wanna talk about lore without getting spoiled by a book that isn't even out yet

torpid sinew
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I’m super disappointed.

hushed pasture
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Oops

heavy monolith
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Yeah the book isnt even out yet

hushed pasture
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Oh lord

torpid sinew
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So basically.

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Act 1 is real
Act 2 is real, but distorted
Act 3 is PTSD

hushed pasture
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Yeah

heavy monolith
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Which makes the extensions in act 2 fake

torpid sinew
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Act Finale is hey i stronk no more peeteeyssdee

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I am about to unleash pure unbridled rage soon.

hushed pasture
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No don’t

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Hello Neighbor Hide and Seek isn’t real right?

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Idk

torpid sinew
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i’m going to bomb mr peterson’s house

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But-

hushed pasture
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|| I think Hello Neighbor Hide and Seek is Not real||

torpid sinew
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Parts of it are real.

hushed pasture
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Yeah

gusty sand
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Hello neighbor hide and seeks story are real

hushed pasture
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Only 1% of its real

torpid sinew
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And the non real parts are obvious.

hushed pasture
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Only the cutscenes are real

gusty sand
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I wish Guest Neighbor wasn't real...

heavy monolith
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I dont see an issue with it

gusty sand
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||The guest used to be something mysterious, now it's... Neighbor man in costume||

heavy monolith
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We already knew the guest wasn’t a forest protector due to how different they are

torpid sinew
heavy monolith
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The guest’s identity cant be secret forever

heavy monolith
gray dome
tribal talon
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Imagine if Mya was the guest

torpid sinew
hushed pasture
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Aaron is the Guest?

heavy monolith
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No

hushed pasture
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His dad did lock him in the basement

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Plus if he was the guest he has his dad locked up

heavy monolith
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Which aaron agreed to

hushed pasture
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Yeah ur right

torpid sinew
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Imagine if the scream was because Aaron saw a spider.

hushed pasture
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Mr Peterson locked a spider in the basement lol

heavy monolith
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Fun fact: if the tunnels didnt collapse in puzzle master, nicky could have easily escaped without having to exit into the neighbor’s yard

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He would be able to get to the factory, mayak, etc

hushed pasture
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I haven’t read puzzle master

gray dome
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read it

hushed pasture
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I gusss that’s payback for not putting spoiler warnings on

heavy monolith
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Well it was 4 months ago

whole elbow
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Also you don't need to put spoiler tag anymore (for book 6)

heavy monolith
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Guys ||nicky is the player’s name||

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🤯

hushed pasture
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Wow

heavy monolith
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Yes i know its super epic

gray dome
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book 7 tho yeah u need tags bc its not even out yet

hushed pasture
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I know

heavy monolith
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Vido will probably add the spoiler channel back once it releases

gray dome
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but i get it early because for some reason my store gets it early ImbirBday

heavy monolith
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Can we talk about how hn2 full game could literally show guest neighbor and it would still be denied

whole elbow
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Because Guest Neighbor will be mentioned as Aaron

heavy monolith
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Aaron is secretly theodore

whole elbow
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Yes

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aaron_like_visitor

heavy monolith
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Also we were teased of neighbor being the guest long ago

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Its not that much of a surprise

gusty sand
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I am still wondering what happened to Aaron. They never say what actually happened to him

heavy monolith
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The guest was hardly mysterious since we were shown ted in the guest suit before hgp even was found

gusty sand
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People told me that those were misleading teasers made to fool us.

heavy monolith
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People are weird then

gusty sand
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And also that was very early in development, so people thought that it would be scrapped like the biblical references from the old alphas

heavy monolith
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Because its a lot of work put into a face test for it to be a misleading teaser

heavy monolith
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This time is different

gusty sand
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True that

heavy monolith
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Because we still know hg, mayak, rotm, etc are gonna be in hn2 release

gusty sand
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Yeah, I can't wait for that

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But I'm still thinking of what could've happened to Aaron. I have a feeling he's just going to pop up out of nowhere eventually. I mean we never got to see what actually happened to him

heavy monolith
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I think the guest will burn down the house instead of aaron

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He keeps getting associated with fire

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||even in reset day||

gusty sand
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What made you think Aaron burns down the house?

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Didn't the Townspeople burn down the Golden Apple. I always thought that they burned down Peterson's house. "Raven Brooks, come for the tragedies and stay for the burnings"

gray dome
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They burnt down the park

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The grandparents burnt down the first factory

heavy monolith
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And then stage 3

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But its probably the guest who did it

gray dome
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||Also yeah Ted is associated with fire in Reset Day||

gusty sand
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Yeah, Aaron's an arsonist in the making

gray dome
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||If you're around him you'll smell burning||

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||So keep that in mind when you're reading the book||

heavy monolith
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And the smoke effects

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Guest mask is burnt in announcement trailer
Guest throws tv in fire in ai trailer
Guest is in front of fire in the shocktober keyart

gusty sand
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||But why would Ted burn his own house?||

gray dome
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And player uses fire against Guest in HG announcement trailer

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So like

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He is associated with fire a LOT

gusty sand
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But why would he?

vernal kraken
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to erase it

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and try to get rid of his memories

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or make people think they died

gusty sand
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Seems like a very bad coping mechanism

vernal kraken
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well that's ted 🤦

gusty sand
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Yeah, he's a bit weird

vernal kraken
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Since the final of HN1 seemed to imply he never actually got over his problems/memories/trauma I figure he'd have bad solutions trying to cope tbh

gusty sand
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So Act 3 takes place after everything else? Well, I have to go erase part of my Novel's plot

vernal kraken
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we don't know yet

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but tbh if you want to write stories, imo you should just have fun writing them

gusty sand
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Yet again they probably weren't planning for a story as big and convoluted story as big as this

vernal kraken
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i don't think there's anything wrong with having a different interpretation of the series

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and since what we know keeps changing/expanding-

gusty sand
# vernal kraken i don't think there's anything wrong with having a different interpretation of t...

Thanks for convincing me not to completely start over on my novel.

Here's the description they always put with said novel.

Victor Rejzhon, a kid of a family falling apart before his own eyes. Being forced to move to a small obscure city called Cardinal Creek, he attempts to suppress the emotions of his mother by drowning himself on his computer and hiding away in his room.

However when his only sibling goes missing he teams up with a group of kids who've all lost somebody. During their investigations they discover that something deeper is actually going on... beyond the creek, in the ruins of a city half burnt down nearly 10 years ago... Raven Brooks

They'll be forced to outrun, outsmart, and outwit people dressed up as birds, team up with mysterious survivors, and uncover the secrets... beyond the creek

heavy monolith
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Still using my epic name i see

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😎

torpid sinew
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It’d make sense for Act 3 to be before HN2 if the burning theory is correct.

heavy monolith
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Huh

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The house burns down before act 3

torpid sinew
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I know.

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OH

heavy monolith
torpid sinew
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My brain died when it wrote that.

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.

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If Nicky appears as a playable character in HN2, they need to remake the Alpha 2 cutscene.

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Where Nicky goes to sleep, Mr Peterson drugs him, and throws him out of his house.

heavy monolith
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Nicky will be in hn2 but idk if playable

vernal kraken
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tbh that was one of the best cutscene sequences

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just the camera work and aesthetics

heavy monolith
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Its one of the only good old cutscenes

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From before release

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Others are alpha 3 and 4 intro

torpid sinew
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I have a love hate relationship with the old artstyle.

vernal kraken
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ye

heavy monolith
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I have a hate one

torpid sinew
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The old maps with the art style looked good, but empty.

heavy monolith
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Except for how its done in alpha 2

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With mixing

torpid sinew
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Yeah.

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It actually looks good.

vernal kraken
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it feels weird seeing HN1 artstyle now after how detailed HN2 one is

torpid sinew
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Like, Pre-Alpha’s house looked ugly.

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It was literally two rooms.

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Nothing else.

heavy monolith
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Plot twist: pre alpha to alpha 2 plot and alpha 3 to beta 3 plots are their own timelines

torpid sinew
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I really wish Nicky was always an adult.

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Like the old builds.

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It felt like instead of knowing Mr Peterson forever, he got curious and decided to check what was inside the basement.

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.

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Okay, let me rephrase that.

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Instead of knowing Mr Peterson forever, it felt like Mr P was this omnipotent threat, he wasn’t just your enemy, he was everyone’s enemy, you were just the guy to put an end to it.

whole elbow
torpid sinew
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I just thought about something.

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What if Pre Alpha and Alpha 1 are canon?

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With them taking place between act 2 and 3.

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Mr P captures a middle aged man and a man with scratches on his fingers.

heavy monolith
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No

torpid sinew
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AKA Pre-Alpha model and Scrapped Alpha 1 model.

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.

vernal kraken
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I've thought about it tbh, like with the Guest situation rn Don't see why those couldn't happen

torpid sinew
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And maybe the reason why Pre Alpha and Alpha 1 look realistic is because of how the two protags see the world.

heavy monolith
#

What

torpid sinew
#

Not colorful and joyful.

heavy monolith
#

You mean because nikita wanted to change the style of the game

torpid sinew
#

Yeah.

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I’m just giving a reason.

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If it happened in my theory.

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Basically since the two players are adults, (in my eyes 40-60) they see the world differently than Nicky.

heavy monolith
#

Nicky is 32

torpid sinew
#

I know.

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What I’m saying is:

minor kayak
torpid sinew
#

You know what, nevermind.

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I’m going back to tree.

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.

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Let me explain.

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Let’s say that the two captured men were captured in 2001, and were around 50-60.

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They’d see the world as a more grimmer place.

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Yes, I know I’m dumb.

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But I’m proud of it.

torpid sinew
#

Like, basically Ted burns his house down.

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Then he forgets Aaron and runs to save him.

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He gets trapped under a board.

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Then Aaron saves him.

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Or at least that’s what I like to think.

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Oh, I forgot to add that aaron burns to death

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Boom

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Problem solved.

gusty sand
tribal talon
#

||Liquify explaining why technically actually Aaron could be guest still:||

coarse crater
#

There is still possibilities because the neighbor wouldn't stay as guest for like 19 years lt makes no sense

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and also they said they would reveal him in hn2 full game

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so Why reveal him now in a book?

silver vine
#

No.1 Buff Neighbor isnt the Guest

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Hello Neighbor 2 takes place in 90s

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Whereas Neighbor took the identity of the guest in present day

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Some how with time travel shnanigans present day Neighbor comes in contact with Buff neighbor from 90s

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They couldnt explain this in video game cutscenes

silver vine
slate pawn
tribal talon
#

damn

tribal talon
#

dude

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stop

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STOP

storm salmon
#

@paper shadow UMM

violet stag
#

what is going on here

tribal talon
#

wats goin on

violet stag
#

who put that

tribal talon
#

what is he doing

heavy monolith
#

Lore is cool

tribal talon
#

he thinks if he removed it they can't ban him

storm salmon
#

yes

versed yacht
tribal talon
#

what the hell is happening here

violet stag
tribal talon
#

this is lore discussion for ya

tribal talon
slate pawn
violet stag
tribal talon
#

what the hell even is TG network

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And why should we care

whole elbow
heavy monolith
#

So funny

silver vine
#

The Neighbor took the identity of the guest in present day timeline

#

But then HN2 takes place in the 90s

short token
#

poggers

silver vine
#

And both buff neighbor and guest is there

#

How did present time neighbor come in contact with buff neighbor from 90s?

sterile remnant
#

Hello

shut kite
silver vine
#

Great

shut kite
#

emag taerG

silver vine
shut kite
#

yes

#

don't post random stuff about me saying random stuff when it's a channel about lore discussion

shrewd dove
#

Isn’t it just the tavishes fault that lucy yi died? Because even though Mr Peterson made some questionable ride choices, they forced Mr Peterson to rush production, meaning parts could be falty, atleast they had to pay for it and no Mr Peterson.

silver vine
chrome palm
#

yes

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............

#

what

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time

shrewd dove
chrome palm
#

time

#

time

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machine

shrewd dove
#

T I M E

chrome palm
#

yes

shrewd dove
#

T R A V E L

chrome palm
#

time warp

chrome palm
#

woahhhhhhhhh

#

im tired

silver vine
chrome palm
#

sshhhhhhhhhh

#

no spoilers plsssssssss

#

im buying the book soom

shrewd dove
#

Either the guest doesn’t appear until after the neighbor became the guest, the guest is someone else, or future neighbor went as the guest and came back, that explains stuff, but whynis future neighbor trying to stop buff neighbor from doing stuff?

chrome palm
#

idk when tho]

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im tryna get a new skateboard so

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idk when i should get the book

silver vine
chrome palm
#

ok

#

cya

silver vine
shrewd dove
#

But the buff neighbor got locked up by the guest/future neighbor

shrewd dove
#

Maybe the time loop is happening, because the guest/future neighbor is trying to figure out how to go back in time to stop buff neighbor or help buff neighbor on his past mistakes, because the neighbor’s life went in ruins it feels like

sterile remnant
#

does the Alpha connect to Hello Neighbor lore?

shrewd dove
#

That explains why the guest and neighbor are seen together before

silver vine
shrewd dove
#

it also explains how the guest has all this past footage in the showcase

silver vine
#

And IGN say there are gonna be multiple neighbors

sterile remnant
#

ummm

shrewd dove
#

he didn’t mean multiple petersons tho

silver vine
sterile remnant
shrewd dove
#

lol

silver vine
#

But neighbor can be in gray manor and guest can be in blue house

sterile remnant
#

lol angry oh no

shrewd dove
#

here is my neighbor buff neighbor, then here is future/stick neighbor, and can’t forget baby neighbor!

#

:0

sterile remnant
#

Neighbor exersied

silver vine
copper wave
#

||also with the fact we know time travel exists now, how do we know if there wasnt timeloops before reset days specific time loop||

silver vine
shrewd dove
#

||here are the 3 possibilites, 1. Someone else is the guest and there is no time travel, if there is, someone else is going back in time, either trying to look like peterson or not, whether trying to help or hurt him is unknown. 2. Future neighbor is causing these time loops to try to figure out how to go back in time to stop the neighbor or help him from his past mistakes, future neighbor is kidnapping people to try to figure, it out, or is trying to get people out of the loop he caused I am not sure why he is kidnapping people, 3. neighbor is guest in the future and there is no time travel not to much to say with that||

sterile remnant
#

i like number 2

shrewd dove
#

Yea me too

sterile remnant
#

i mean makes sence

tribal talon
#

||neighbor is the guest and there are time loops||

shrewd dove
#

but, then where is the threat, there has to be something else to it

sterile remnant
#

He was curesd

copper wave
sterile remnant
#

yes

sterile remnant
#

The Crow is the|| Forest ||Protector right?||||

silver vine
shrewd dove
#

||what if the neighbor is not the main bad, what if past characters come back and are the real bad guys, but neighbor is probably the bad guy, but I wonder what his end plan is||

sterile remnant
#

oh

silver vine
tribal talon
tribal talon
silver vine
tribal talon
silver vine
shrewd dove
tribal talon
#

||they were where the FP myth came from||

sterile remnant
#

I dont think the Neighbor is a bad person but he did alot of stuuf in the past

tribal talon
shrewd dove
silver vine
silver vine
shrewd dove
sterile remnant
#

just hoping the Guest will take out his mask

shrewd dove
#

Yes

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probably

#

they have a neighbor guest model

silver vine
sterile remnant
#

imagen he is the thing

silver vine
#

Alex said

shrewd dove
silver vine
silver vine
#

In book 7

sterile remnant
#

ye

heavy monolith
#

When the spoiler isnt tagged

sterile remnant
#

so no more Aaron guest

silver vine
versed yacht
tribal talon
silver vine
#

Can someone teach me

tribal talon
#

||lucy got in first||

sterile remnant
#

who did

silver vine
tribal talon
#

||where mya was supposed to sit||

sterile remnant
silver vine
#

I read all the books too

shrewd dove
#

The thing is not a real thing, just a thing that represents a certain character, to Nicky the thing represents the neighbor, to the neighbor the thing represents Aaron, there is proof of that because to Nicky the thing is the height of an adult, to the Neighbor the thing is the height of s kid.

versed yacht
silver vine
#

Except book 7 tho

versed yacht
#

rip that failed

silver vine
#

Neighbor never overcome his fears

shrewd dove
sterile remnant
#

||Nicky had to overcome his fears||

silver vine
shrewd dove
#

You don’t need to put spoils over past content, just reset day stuff since it isn’t out yet, if you come to this chat expect spoilers for past stuff lol

silver vine
#

To overcome his fears

sterile remnant
#

In the books it said ||Nicky was scared of teh stores||

#

well i mean we all know

shrewd dove
#

Nicky is scared of maniquins a lot too

sterile remnant
#

the fear school level

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the NIGHTMARE that I had to cheat through

shrewd dove
#

yes

#

so many people think the nightmares are har,

sterile remnant
#

I cant take the fear school

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the rest are easy

shrewd dove
#

they aren’t that hard tho, the fear school is just hiding in lockers and timing it right

sterile remnant
#

ik its the Teacher part that I hate

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The glowing white one

shrewd dove
#

yea is a bit hard, not something you can really teach in a tutorial most I can say is listen for sounds and time it right

sterile remnant
#

not like im on youtube to help anyone

#

(For real though)

gusty sand
#

I remember I heard a theory about the guest. The theory is that the costume is actually a mascot costume from the golden apple amusement park. The reason being is that in the golden apple amusement park you see guest statues everywhere, and just bird imagery in general. Has anyone else heard this theory?

tribal talon
#

so it's almost 100% true

gusty sand
#

Probably he was walking around the golden apple and he found the costume in the trash and was all like, "Oh hey, a costume. I'm going to kidnap people in it"

shrewd dove
#

Guys I just had a theory, maybe the mascot/theme of the golden apple amusement park, is a golden apple, sounds crazy

old glacier
#

no

#

you can see in HE it's the guest

#

:trolled:

sterile remnant
#

ye

shrewd dove
# old glacier no

Have you seen the gaap? It always changes, plus the place was open for a day, and in that day there was no mention of anything related to crows

old glacier
shrewd dove
#

after it closessss

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In the books there is no mention of crows, the guest must of changed it for some reason, maybe to scare people away, it sort of scared quentin in hg

gray dome
#

there's mentions of crows what

wicked heath
#

Guys. Proof number 2111342 that fnaf and hn are related: Crying child and mya are the same

shrewd dove
#

No I mean there is no mention of the guest or crows as a theme in caap

#

gaap

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not caap lol

wicked heath
#

Both: striped shirt, has a a favorite toy that stays with them, killed by older brother, kid of antagonist, saddest death of franchise (i have more)

agile hare
gusty sand
tribal talon
#

I mean considering hello engineer is apparently canon it's not a stretch

shrewd dove
#

Idk how much of what he built is canon, because hn act 2 had not canon stuff in it, either way they would mention it in the books

torpid sinew
#

Okay, let me get this straight.

#

A game where you build stuff on an island is canon.

#

AHAHAHSHS

#

AAA

#

WHY

tribal talon
#

It could be the kids imagining being in one of the rides

gusty sand
#

The kids imagine things quite differently than how they seem
In facy I have a feeling that the kids never left the campfire in secret neighbor and were instead thinking of everything that could happen in Petersons house. Like Enzo would be all like, "But what if he can shapeshift!? What if he can build rockets?" And Trinity is all like, "Enzo shut the hell up..."

torpid sinew
shrewd dove
#

No, Enzo is scared of Mr Peterson in the books and cartoon

torpid sinew
#

Oh

torpid sinew
#

They should’ve used the Pre-Alpha house for Act 3.

gray dome
torpid sinew
radiant token
#

The people probably would notice the big wall on act 2

#

If not they are blind

meager orchid
#

?

agile hare
vernal sentinel
#

hi

#

again

#

In secret neighbor the only person missing is Nicky

#

and in the cartoon

#

all the kids seem to be the same age

#

so in secret neighbor is saving nick

stark otter
#

we need to talk about the hn2 and HG lore

vernal sentinel
#

oh ok

#

did ya like my theory

stark otter
#

👍

vernal sentinel
#

yah thx

left sail
#

Who would win?

#

The guest or Theodore

vernal sentinel
#

also the crow man (the guest) is Mr. P's son

left sail
vernal sentinel
#

see in the alpha

#

the crow man locks Mr. P away

agile hare
vernal sentinel
#

but my theory is in hello neighbor 1 act 1

#

he locks his son away

left sail
#

The guest head is a lot smaller than mr p’s head

agile hare
vernal sentinel
#

no

agile hare
shrewd dove
#

||the guest could be mr peterson from the future||

vernal sentinel
#

it must have been awhile after

agile hare
#

||It was literally confirmed in reset day that he is the neighbor||

vivid merlin
agile hare
left sail
#

If you read the hello neighbor wiki the guest is not human

agile hare
#

The Guest is human

vernal sentinel
#

yes

agile hare
#

And wiki isn't right

vernal sentinel
#

he has two hands

shrewd dove
vernal sentinel
#

two legs

#

and if he was not human what is he

vernal kraken
#

gorilla

vernal sentinel
#

bruh

shrewd dove
#

lol

vernal kraken
#

I'm sorry lol

left sail
#

What about the sounds he makes

vernal sentinel
#

ok

#

thsat

agile hare
#

That's an urban legend from Raven Brooks, the Forest Protectors are a humanoid raven like creature that drink children's blood (but that's not true) the Forest Protectors are actually just a cult of people

vernal sentinel
#

one loophole

agile hare
shrewd dove
vivid merlin
#

aaron is NO longer a child, I don't verify it any other way

vernal sentinel
#

yes thank you

stark otter
#

ok

left sail
agile hare
#

Peterson has a lot of engineering skills and is a park designer, of course he could pull off a fake humanoid sound

stark otter
#

With some tech

vernal sentinel
#

so he isthe neighbors son getting revenge

stark otter
#

i wanna know

#

wtf is Mayak

agile hare
stark otter
#

and what is up wth it?

vernal sentinel
#

and thatswhat going on

shrewd dove
#

||The way reset day is going, I would be fine to beleive the guest is the neighbor from the future, it would explain all the evidence on the neighbor guest and anti neighbor guest sides||

vernal sentinel
#

what kra

vivid merlin
vernal sentinel
#

that could not be

agile hare
vernal sentinel
#

possible

left sail
#

Why is the guest scared of light then

vernal sentinel
#

he is a gmaer

vivid merlin
#

@agile hare no

stark otter
#

Ok so if HN2A2 happens during act 2

vernal sentinel
#

a ga,er

vivid merlin
#

@agile hare and

stark otter
#

why is the house so different

vivid merlin
#

@agile hare** NO**

vernal sentinel
#

because it has been a long time

stark otter
#

and that wouldnt make HN2 a sequle it would be a prequle

shrewd dove
#

I wonder if there will be a time gap somewhere in hn 2, idk tho, because it’s kind of a sandbox game, which doesn’t usually have time gaps

stark otter
#

yeah

left sail
#

Mr p changed the layout in act 2

stark otter
#

why is mr.p doing with the basement'

chrome palm
#

is the new book good

stark otter
#

and it all looks to different

#

but the missing posters

chrome palm
#

i might buy it today

left sail
#

I have a question

agile hare
vernal sentinel
#

but see drawing of his children

stark otter
#

omg THE LORE

shrewd dove
#

I bet the basement will either be a side quest, or not a present goal in hello neighbor 2

chrome palm
#

anyone who is reading the book

#

is it good?

vernal sentinel
#

and himsalef

stark otter
#

i havnet read the books

#

yet i want to

vernal sentinel
#

that is his son vandalisng to get revenge

left sail
#

I only read two

stark otter
#

MAI DAB

vernal sentinel
#

and show his father what he went through

shrewd dove
#

since we already know what’s in the basement, not too big of a point on going in, I wonder what’s the goal of hello neighbor 2 alpha 2, because it’s in the new house

vernal sentinel
#

after he killed the girl

chrome palm
#

unless thats one that u read

left sail
#

Soooo

stark otter
#

we need to wait tiil alpha 2 releases

vernal sentinel
#

yes

agile hare
#

Also by the way, it was also confirmed that alpha 1 isn't canon (that also includes alpha 1.5 since it's also a part of alpha 1 technically)

chrome palm
#

agh is the new book good or not

vernal sentinel
#

so it is comfirmed

chrome palm
#

ive asked 3 times

vernal sentinel
#

Crow man= Aron

left sail
#

Not sure

shrewd dove
#

There is an image of a glowing key behind a cage door, so he need to get to some door

chrome palm
#

no

agile hare
left sail
chrome palm
#

no

#

he isn't

agile hare
#

It's just no

vernal sentinel
#

why not

agile hare
#

Cus Aaron is a kid

#

In hn2

chrome palm
#

it takes place betweeen act 2 and 3

agile hare
#

And so is Nicky in hn2

left sail
#

Oh ya forgot

chrome palm
#

he's still like 13 or 14

shrewd dove
# left sail Maybe

||unless the aaron grew a mustache and there is a time gap, then aaron isn’t the guest||

vernal sentinel
#

thats what weve been doing this whole time

left sail
#

Aaron is locked in the basement with him

agile hare
#

Guest looks like a 50 or 40 year old man

stark otter
#

lol

left sail
#

Lol

chrome palm
#

child predator

stark otter
#

ew

agile hare
chrome palm
#

illegal

left sail
#

Guest is not human

stark otter
#

but quintin and beatrix arnt children

shrewd dove
agile hare
chrome palm
stark otter
#

Guest is a psycho

shrewd dove
#

the guest can talk, I am pretty sure he is human

vernal sentinel
#

someone get a picture of him right beside the neighbor

left sail
#

For 1 he’s scared of lights

chrome palm
#

agh my discord is lagging

stark otter
#

lol

left sail
#

For 2 the sounds he makes

chrome palm
#

help

agile hare
chrome palm
#

AGH

#

LAG

#

GOD

stark otter
#

why is Guest afraid of lights?

agile hare
shrewd dove
agile hare
left sail
#

Maybe

#

But

stark otter
#

Ik

stark otter
agile hare
#

It isn't fully scrapped

left sail
#

If he used a sound device where would he put it

agile hare
#

The Mill and neighbor Guest isn't scrapped

stark otter
#

yes

shrewd dove
#

How am I spamming? Idk man

vernal sentinel
#

or the dective is aron

stark otter
#

bots are dumb

vernal sentinel
#

it is possile

agile hare
#

But well... I gotta go, since y'all don't believe, even tho there's cleaner evidence then ever before

left sail
vernal sentinel
#

yeah it was a thought

#

or nick is

agile hare
agile hare
left sail
#

I don’t see it in his beak

stark otter
#

guest=COCO ALIEN

agile hare
vernal sentinel
#

oh yeah

#

oh

#

crap

agile hare
stark otter
#

lore is hard

agile hare
#

But now I gotta go

left sail
#

It was confirmed

vernal sentinel
#

guest is not aron

shrewd dove
#

the man in the hat is probably norman darby, mith probably keeps his identity a secret since he is thought dead

vivid merlin
#

I accepted it that way and I believe it that way

stark otter
#

...............

vivid merlin
#

nothing is scrap in my eyes

stark otter
#

the guest is an embryo

vivid merlin
#

I can open a heavy topic here right now, but I'm silent, I think if you keep quiet, I will never talk about it.

shrewd dove
#

since ||mr peterson|| is the guest, why would he have a ||forest protector like suit|| I thought he was ||against|| the raven society’s ways

left sail
#

Ik

stark otter
#

what is the raven society

#

??

shrewd dove
#

read the books

left sail
#

A cult

shrewd dove
#

kind of

stark otter
#

oh a cult in the HN universe

shrewd dove
#

nvm just read the books and you will know, the prequal ones give info on that

stark otter
#

just tell me.

#

is it a cult?

vivid merlin
#

The universe hn makes sense to me and I'm balancing the story in the right direction, on the other hand it doesn't look that way at all

stark otter
#

like @left sail told me

left sail
#

What?

#

What did I tell u

stark otter
#

dat the raven society is a cult

#

or something like it

left sail
#

Manly

stark otter
#

?

vivid merlin
#

and don't forget it ''sometimes you have to believe what you see, not what you hear ''

stark otter
#

i sadly dont have the books😢

tribal talon
#

it's a cult

stark otter
#

ok

vivid merlin
#

think like this if the game doesn't tell the date or name or things like that

tribal talon
#

||it's likely an extremely worn down GAAP mascot suit||

stark otter
#

ok?

shrewd dove
# tribal talon ||it's likely an extremely worn down GAAP mascot suit||

The guest is not the mascot of the GAAP, the guest is a forest protector sort of suit, made to resemble the urban legend or human crow like creatures. The GAAP was only open for a day, and there was no mention of it having a mascot, the theme/mascot is a golden apple, it would seem random to have a crow anyways. The guest found the suit in the trash probably from someone who left it from the raven society or something. The big statues are there at the park because, either the guest, or the someone else, built it, I think if the guest is ||mr peterson, it would make sense for him to build it because mr peterson is an engineering||, but it’s unclear what’s canon and what’s not in hg

stark otter
#

what is GAAP

shrewd dove
#

Golden apple amusement park

tribal talon
#

||they have completely different suits||

stark otter
shrewd dove
stark otter
#

so the guest is the mising GAAP mascot?

shrewd dove
#

No

tribal talon
stark otter
#

Ok?

tribal talon
#

||it resembles the crows in some of GAAP's marketing and buildings||

tribal talon
#

||also the fact that it's IN the gaap in HG||

shrewd dove
#

The park was open for a day and the mascot is a golden apple, not really an actual mascot but a theme at least. It can’t be a crow as a mascot, because the brand of golden apple is a just what the name is, it would be random for it to be a crow mascot, the books mention nothing of crows as mascots, I feel like that would be enough

stark otter
#

||well yeah he is in HG so shouldn't he be the missing GAAP mascot?||

tribal talon
stark otter
#

So what happened to the park that is was open for just a day

#

was it a death

tribal talon
#

||they probably weren't built by someone else||

stark otter
#

i heard that there was a death which is why is was abbondoned

tribal talon
#

||they would've been taken down by the property owners||

stark otter
#

ok

shrewd dove
#

hg might not even be canon, the crow statues only appear after it closes proving it was not made by the golden apple brand or mr peterson

#

also it was proved ||mr peterson is the guest in reset day, so if mr peterson made it, he is an engineering, he build a whole underground amusement park single handedly for aaron in the basement, not too far of a stretch for him to make a statue, doesn’t really make sense how he could get away with it, but the statue atracts lightning so it has a use||

tribal talon
#

||hg isn't scrapped||

shrewd dove
#

Also it’s closed and I’m pretty sure the golden apple brand is in bankrupsy, that part of town is closed

tribal talon
#

||so it is canon||

shrewd dove
tribal talon
shrewd dove
tribal talon
#

tillman's company literally buy the rights for it

#

in the books

shrewd dove
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They don’t do anything with it tho lol

tribal talon
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||why do you think Beatrix and Quentin are being paid to guard it||

shrewd dove
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Maybe tillman‘s was trying to make it into a horror themed park with crows as a theme, but it must of not worked, if that is true, maybe tillman’s has a relation to the raven society or the guest idk

vivid merlin
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and

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The crow statue atracts lightning so something fishy is going on with tillman’s lol

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but either way it means the guest is not a mascot of the gaap, maybe of what tillman’s is trying to do tho

vivid merlin
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my story and there is no such thing as canon in my opinion

tribal talon
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||and some metal types attract lightning||

stark otter
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mayak

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I think the gaap will come back in hn 2 some how, hg and hn 2 aren’t the same so, not in the same way as hg, but some way let’s hope

stark otter
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when will hn2a2 come out

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we will really need t odiscuss its lore

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*discuss

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*to

shrewd dove
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books have like 100000 times more lore than the alphas, since usually the alphas aren’t canon to much, they will still hint at a lot tho

stark otter
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oh

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i just wanna know]

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when it will come out

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maybe in the first week of may

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really?

shrewd dove
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Eerie guest studios right now is focused on giving us some lore, but over all in the alphas it’s making the game better an better for players

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It isn’t cancelled lol

stark otter
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yay

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Take da

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plus tiny and eerie will not cancel some thing hey worked so hard on

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stark otter
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hey

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Can anyone explain what this is? I know it’s in the secret ending, but, they took all the time to make this neighbor mask, and this neighbor model has the eyes closed, and the ears are different, it must be mr peterson because of the head and clothes he also has the gloves of the guest and long arms, but this looks like mr peterson at the absolute edge of complete insanity, weird

agile hare
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oh

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well

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that's fake neighbor

tribal talon
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supposed to be in prototype ending

agile hare
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that's supposed to be The Man In The Hat

agile hare
shrewd dove
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I know it’s fake neighbor, and yes the ears are mith’s ears

tribal talon
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Mith, but with fake Neighbor's mask

shrewd dove
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Not really

tribal talon
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yes it is

agile hare
shrewd dove
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Mith looks kind of like that, but not really

agile hare
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it also uses mith's face texture

whole elbow
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NF is taller than Mith

shrewd dove
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Mith has a pointy nose tho

shrewd dove
tribal talon
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it has full head model, Neighbor's hair

agile hare
whole elbow