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It's all imaginary but the kids really did spend the entire time dreaming about the moon and getting kidnapped
Poor nicky, such reliable friends
alpha 2 makes no sense, there is neighbor missing papers, but he is clearly not missing, maybe the ending is him leaving and going missing idk
"I promise" to play in your backyard pretending to save you
that's why fear school exists, Nicky never had any good friend even in the school
People don't know where he is
So he's missing
He is across the street form quentin in the gameplay
form not form
from
lol
I don't think people know that
To the Police he is missing
But at the same time he's wanted for kidnapping Nicky probably
They can’t just walk down the street and see him in his home lol
in the new house
What
Yea, the ending where the police come has to happen at the end, meaning both houses are available in the alphas, mr peterson can’t be missing in the gameplay
he's trying so hard
ok but he still disappears
uhh, all the kids turn into hay
it is in a surreal way?
they literally died
the entire attic is surreal
Idk if the kids are really canon tbh
Guest literally killed kids and took their clothes
but he anyway died because Neighbor accidentally crushed him while running to the door
I don’t think the kids are canon, it doesn’t make too much sense, the guest kid as a character is not canon, but he hints to things, like his golden apple tag, maybe he is representing someone form the golden apple inventing club from before, idk
i think ai trailer is canon for sure
maybe, but the kids must of disapeared as a gameplay choice I guess, there is no true vistory in hello neighbor, they won’t let us save the kids, or the neighbor, atleast not yet
what about hello guest prototype
Idk if I count that as a victory, the only true victory is the hn 1 ending, because it doesn’t end on a cliff hanger
Nvm lol (just a joke, don’t get on me about what’s canon and what’s not)
no
Theory: crowman/guest is associated with Mya somehow, because Mya had a tattoo of a crow on her wrist, and crows are a motif in Hide and Seek
LMAOO
if you say mya is guest then I'm going to kill y-
oh, no, not at all
or is it
Mya is Guest
g
The new trashcan model is the guest 
True
Probably a sequel.
Its before act 3
Did mr peterson kill someone in germany? Because in a flash back in the books the mom says ”The cart didn’t detach, your father...”
Pretty sure he did
ye he did
holy-
To be exact: In 1991, Theodore's park in Germany was closed after an accident happened on a Flume Ride resulting in the death of four teenagers, who drowned
Then 2 detectives from Germany came to arrest him but obviously they failed
But 4 Teenager OOF
And Lucy YI died plus his accident with his wife so 6 murders
any more Mr Pterson hmm?
5 murders 1 death
Because Diane was more of an accident
Well
I guess it counts as murder
He did not have a license i think
||He was getting Jackets for the kids.||
A truck crashed into Ted and Diane’s car.
Ik
It doesn’t count as murder for Mr P.
I think it does because of his bad driving but we don't know if the truck hit him or if it was the other way around so idk
Someone was driving on the wrong side of the road
He has 5 murders and 1 possible murder
Wait
||in Bosco Bay||
yep he died
||In 1984, Theodore was working on an amusement park in Bosco Bay, and used the brother of a girl named Jen to test one of his rides. To Theodore's surprise, the brother died. Jen took it the wrong way and thought Theodore had some kind of "plan."||
lotta spoilers for people who haven't read the book :I
wait. If he meant to kill the teens in germany and dianne knew that why was she telling Ted in book 6 so insistently that it was an accident? and that 'nobody could have known' and defending him in front of the police?
I just think it's weird they chose the career they did for him, but then, I guess it's easier to make these 'is he guilty or not? was it on purpose or not?' debates but 🤨
No one wants there husband to be arrsested
........ Depends on what they're like honestly
both of the people
if the guys trash and you feel forced to stay there and he done killed people pretty sure you'd WANT him to get charged and arrested so you could get away, so imo that kinda holds some evidence that either Ted wasn't as abusive as people assume, or Dianne is also a bad person which would be whack ngl
I don't see that as being the case
|| wait, he killed them intentionally? ||
i dont think it was intentional
Ted's hands are clean. I repeat Mr.Peterson's hands are clean
He didnt murder anyone
not intentionally

roller coaster, please
wasn't murder
it was an accident
unless cleave was driving
it was a joke
there's no pizza driver omg
that van is just an easter egg
and they even removed it from that scene (not from game, just from this scene)
see?
still looks like a delivery or transport tho
burger king
Burber ding
Rugeb gink
Why is so many things leading us to beleive Mr Peterson did it? Like ike, he died suspiciously after they had a fight, but he was found in a peppermint vat, how could mr peterson do that, I wonder who killed ike
Probably
A fp
i assume cleave did it
he's the only one who likes to murder people
Book 5 shows his craziness
So gavin told me
reset day spoiler alert
||time travel is canon||
||raven brooks is a time loop||
||although nobody directly time travels, the loop technically counts as it||
||anti neighbor guesters are crying
||
||aaron makes a crow suit||
Little nightmares 2 intensifies
try and keep spoilers out of the server
we dont want people accidentally getting spoiled
thats why spoiler markers are there
Is that a troll or not?
all of it is true except the ||aaron crow suit part, that's a joke||
^
hn used to be “realistic fiction”
now it's a goosebumps episode on steroids
there ya go
||If there is time travel that mean the guest is roger, or aaron most likely||
What 
||maybe depends how time travel will work, cause it’s different across stuff, I’m gonna wait to read the book||
||its not time travel, its just the town being stuck in a time loop||
ok
||it is time travel due to the loop, but it isn't far enough for roger to likely be alive||
||Wonder what that means, does it mean, the people don’t age, or the town doesn’t age, or events happen over and over||
||they dont age||
||maritza, jess, and the other dude are the only ones who are not looping||
Why are we spoiler warning this channel if it’s about lore discussion?
Because book 7 isnt even out yet
Because the new book
Oh
But we’re discussing it
That makes sense carry on
||we have book 7 since gavin got it early||
I’m gonna wait till the next book is out to fully dwelve into it and make a theory, I can already hear one brewing lol
||its not time travel||
||they say themself it isnt||
||oh, my bad then||
||are yall really saying hn is about time loops now💀 (not saying it's wrong but omg..😩)||
||yes its confirmed in reset day||
||so, this time loop... What are the consequences? Or its origins? Also, is the book itself good? Not gonna lie, my hype died down hard after hearing about the time loop...||
Idk, wait till the book to come out
Holy shit holy shit
?
||guest has a mustache under his mask, piper (protagonist) saw||
o
||anti neighbor guesters will like this||
||Wait, Guest is in the book?||
||why? doesn’t that mean he is the guest?||
||he was joking||
||that's why i said that||
||also, if this new book proves that the neighbor is not the guest, I’m going to be really happy||
||it's quite the opposite||
||it literally just proved he is||
Oof
||Multiple people have mustaches, but mr peterson’s the most distinct, unless it’s a red hearing, then the neighbor’s the guest, but why make the alphas not part of lore at all? It’s kind of dumb||
Have you ever played hn1 alphas
Yea, I know, but this is different
heck, hn2a1.5 is supposed to overwrite alpha 1, so the next build is always the only canon one until release
||this book singlehandedly proved all my theories and more and im SHOOK||
People who have a mustache: Mr Peterson, Ike Gershowitz, and Roger, those are the only people that could be the guest, unless aaron grew one randomly lol
roger and ike are dead
ike is: dead
Roger is: missing, most likely dead,
Quentin 😳
Ah hell nah quang tong is gustavo
bruh, ||There is loops and magical devices, anything goes at this point||
Like ||neighbor being in more than one place at the same time :trollface:||
||Since there’s time loops, magical devices, and crazy weather, let’s just say, the magical twin neighbor, from dimension guest world has come to destroy earth as the guest and turn everyone into turtle people because why not!||
I mean
||I am comfused whether to view the neighbor as a threat or not, after reading the books, it feels weird to see him as the guest, but sadly that is the case oof||
There is still hope, but very little
||the books made it more likely, because he’s unhinged, not a normal dude||
||HS made it seem like he was normal||
HS?
Hide and seek
oh
||did you see the ending of puzzle master? He wasn’t trying to be a bad guy, he’s trying to stop the raven society, but because of these the Diane and Mya dieing, he kind of lost it, somehow he thinks it’s aaron who’s the bad omen, but it’s not, even thouh he is a bad person and has done bad things, he has never supported the cause of the the storm, which seems like the main threat, unless the neighbor’s views have changed since puzzle master||
||some have seen my theorem and they are wondering: if this is not hn1 raven brooks so where is it, i will explain it when the game comes out soon.||
What
I’m gonna wait to read the book to make a theory about anything, whether it ends up being anti guest neighbor or not
||well alot can happen in 19+ years||
peterson does seem unhinged, in books 1-3 he randomly screams and sings to himself
It isnt like happy singing
Its creepy singing
Yea, he hasn’t totally lost his mind, he has a goal in mind, but really tho, why go through all that trouble in alpha 1.5 to have the guest trap him in the attic, if it isn’t even canon, pretty dumb
Have you noticed how 1.5 wasnt even fully real
he's likely gone fully loony by book 2
Guest climbing up walls with regular hands, kids going missing after their missing poster exists, a kid becoming the neighbor
alpha 1.5 is an extremely drunk Quentin trying to remember alpha 1
Why are people talking about mustaches? Let me guess, new book released?
Not released
Those are gameplay choices the neighbor being trapped is not one
Its quite the stache
By the way, if Nikita says anything about the theorem, you'll understand that 'it's not so unreasonable'
||mayak is causing an epic based time loop||
Isthe Guest's mustache like Peterson's, soft and silky. Or is it like Quentins, sharp and just a mess
||it was mistaken for a horn and we havent seen it so idk||
||perhaps symbolic?||
the neighbor’s mustache is so tiny, how could you mistake it for a horn lol
||mrs tillman is also stopping herself from being affected by the raven brooks time loops||
So everyone knows about it? I am talking out of context so no spoils
Sorta?
This new book is weird
||Time loops? Let me just go into a police box and travel back to Alpha 2||
canon
Hello Neighbor 2
Hello Guest
can u like
use spoiler tags
so that other people dont accidentally get spoiled
I'm on mobile, I don't know how
u just use the || symbol
On the begining and end of the text
||oh ok||
||So we're dealing with literal time travel? How? Why? And I swear to God if this means I have to rewrite my Hello Neighbor novel draft again!||
||loops not time travel||
||Literal time loops, still it's confusing and frustrating||
||Bascially mostly everyone in RB except 3 are stuck in a time loop||
||think of groundhog day||
||6 as of book 7||
||I'm thinking of the Smashbits animation||
reset day tells how many years after the events
||So how does Reset Day fit into the story and what exactly happens||
We don’t know what year reset day is
||what do you mean time loop tho? That doesn’t make too much sense||
Assuming 2017
someone said 26 years later
Whats odd though
Dwern
Is that
||the neighbor’s house is still up||
||its covered in graffiti and has boards||
So ||Neighbor is the guest||
How do you know all this, I thought only The other guy had the book?
then hn2 might be before reset day
He dmed me the stuff
I wanna know lol
I mean its going that way
||cry about it||
||So Reset Day occurs after all of Hello Neighbor?||
The ending sort of goes that way too
yes
thats not a spoiler
also according to zpefm it's canon that the neighbor is a fortnite professional esports champion
||liar||
What
I can tell you something real like this
||When the Neighbor is the guest and you have to rewrite your entire Hello Neighbor novel draft||
||we do a little trolling||
what if all of this is just a red haring and they trolled us lol
If the neighbor is 50-60 years old then I can logically say that Nicky is no longer a child
I guess this meme is outdated now even though I'm Neighbor guest anyway
why moustacheless :(
how old would the neighbor be in 2017? He seems pretty old to move soo fast
he'd be like 70 something
aaron's head is like a neighbor
Then again this is likely after hn2
Jeez, he must be a pretty healthy dude
With reset day, "complicating things", I'm thinking of setting my Hello Neighbor novel in 2030
maybe aaron like the neighbor's hn1 (without a mustache and thin)
Maybe, after all kids can grow up and look exactly like their parents
I can make adult version of aaron from here
Tumble
||if the guest is in 2017 or when ever it takes place, it makes more sense to be aaron, but aaron does not have a mustache and we don’t know if he grew one||
Wait hang on
but
If we know what the eye color of the guest was, then we can know who he is probably
hard to grow into a child (and looks ugly)
Ok, thanks
||enzo is missing, he cant be found||
||wait Nicky and the bois return?||
||maritza is the aunt of 2 kids, jess and jordy.||
||That means enzo could be the guest for all we know||
so in the detective profession
||only maritza and (sorta) enzo||
Im pretty sure he was ||taken by him||
Yea
||Vinod might be too but I don't remember||
I don't remember who he is
||Nicky isn't back||
||reset day didnt have nicky|| :sadge:
||Only Maritza is back||
||ik||
||mrs tillman was sorta back||
||Tillman sorta came back too||
||I said kinda afterwards||
bro i was just gonna say that
||she was piper’s dad’s cousin, tillman is dead||
||is she dead||
||any talk of storms? Also what do you mean by time loop?||
||Tillman died 3 days before Pipers dad, and he died the same day Enzo went missing, which happens to be the day right before the time loops start to happen||
||raven brooks keeps resetting to november 2nd||
||For everyone else||
||Mrs. Tillman and a few others keep going thru their lives normally||
||idk what that means, you mean people are not aware of the time loop?||
||enzo secretly has 2 wives confirmed!?!?||
yes
||they aren’t, they act like enzo started going missing every time it loops||
||I wonder if the guest is effected by the time loop, or if he caused it||
Barcode chat barcode chat
mya (adult) exists in the model for the dream of the neighbor. how would it be
What
I could not explain too
||Most likely him who's causing it all||
||so what do you guys think happened to enzo||
||guest took him||
||idk||
This is wonky stuff
||other than Guest taking him||
Why is idk a spoiler lol
||guest def took piper’s mom, but likely he took enzo||
Where is he taking all these people
||so this probably takes place before act 3||
||which means Nicky is most likely still in the city||
||nicky is not there so probably not||
||the guest tells piper she has nowhere to run after taking her mom, and piper’s phone screen shows an icon of the guest, and an image/post of the neighbor which was on the cover||
||So basically Raven Brooks is under a Time Loop? Guest is Kidnapping a bunch of people, The crew is back, Enzo missing, and the metamorphical vase of Hello Neighbor lore has been dropped off of a skyscraper for the seventeenth time||
yes
||yeah||
||what!? The guest can talk?||
||also the crew isn't really back||
and
||It's only Mari||
||hes human dude||
I know, but I didn’t think he would
||do they call her Mari throughout the book?||
||Raven Brooks Station of Weather and Meteorology||
looks like in Leslie Nicky (long and pointy nose, hair straight, tall and?) 
yes
Yeah
He is probably the voice who is talking to alex in the ai showcase, I don’t mean alex is canon, but the voice is somebody
||I called it||
Mayaks name
?
Oh
Someone is in the mayak now?
||I didnt mention this yet but Old Town was mentioned too||
||back in HN chat I said that Mari was Maritza based off the most used words||
||So how is the time loop working? Is it the whole world or is it just Raven Brooks? Let me guess, Mayak storms are what's causing it||
Rb
I can’t wait for the book, but I gtg, I will make a theory after reading it
Nice chat
The barcode chat
leave everything
||Are people aware of the Time Loop? Or is it like the Matrix where everyone doesn't know except a handful of people||
Unaware
That house they call nicky's house has lights on and no board
||Only the people not affected by it are aware of it||
I'm going to go burn every document of my Hello Neighbor Novel idea, Reset Day has pressed reset on it. Also I haven't printed out the ideas so I'm literally going to go throw my PC into the fire place
Reset day more like reset tumble’s ideas
Anyways time to remake reset day in the modkit
I'm writing a novel about what happens with Nicky and Aaron between act 1 and 2 so luckily I'm good for now
||with the whole time loop thing||
I "was" trying to write a Hello Neighbor novel that would be the ultimate ending to the story. All loose ends would be tied up, the story would finally end. But now with Reset Day it can't even fit!
You could make it a sort of alternative universe type thing
With nothing that happens in reset day being canon
where are yall reading stuff about the new book hold on--
from me
I got it early 
He is the provider of new lore and Mind Cracking information regarding Hello Neighbor
It starts out with nicky seeing flashing lightning on his way to a convenient store after ted and his family move in (this is meant to be more game accurate) and nicky comes across a bunch of vandals and bestrix
Your mother

The hell?
what about her?
what
Hey look ||enzo book 7||
What was that?
Is this hn3
Imma just wait since I preordered it---
bot generated story
Now I know what Enzo's role in my book will be
You should probably delete that since off topic moment
I would say ||maybe Enzo is MITH but that doesn't seem likely since alpha 2 is pre act 2 most likely||
wait bro----- wait🤣 wasn't this literally part of the plot to the animation 'if hello neighbor was realistic' that released years ago lmao
Now I'm trying to think if when my Hello Neighbor Novel should take place. It would've taken place 10 years after HN2 but with reset Day it's a bit... 
Alpha 2 is between act 1 and 2.
About guest having early access to BOTW 2
Ik
we dont know that
||Do they explain why The Guest is kidnaping people? Or is he just being guest?||
this kinda sound weird----
Yeah,I was confused by that
idk why but in canon a character seeing the guest on a phone is kinda--- idk lol
do they call them 'guest' in the book?
or like---
Then she sees ||ted|| afterwards
And no, guest is not called guest in book
But
so they just say weird/creepy bird dude?
They mention ||his beak and abnormally long arms||
Basically
lol
||So the Guest is Kidnapping people now? Is there a reason for him||
||yes he is, he already was in the alphas and we dont know why||
Idk the reason
||Yeah I know he was Kidnapping people in the alphas, but like how some people described it happening in Reset Day. Also what's his motive?||
||idk the motive, they didnt explain||
Only nicky’s dad calls nicky narf, doesn’t this mean nicky’s dad and Norman Darby have a connection?
They do
Norman mentions him
He mentions how he’s friends with rita ryland and jay
Sometimes I think my Hello Neighbor novel will never be finished, all due to the new books dropping bomb shells as big as what they showed in Reset Day
We kind of do, Neighbor hasn't fled yet , which is after Nicky escapes in act 2, and the police also haven't searched the basement and house (which from fron map 4, it tells us they did search, so the crime scene tap would have been there in alpha 2 also) so it's pretty certain that alpha 2 is between act 1 and 2. Also, the neighbor leaves when they go search, which hasn't happened yet, so Nicky hasn't escaped yet making the neighbor flee causing the cops to seach and put up tape making the neighbor "missing" and then later the cops see what he did and is now wanted. So, there's my explanation.
i know that. But it's based off the house, also adam said there were clues, and the tape being there is one.
we knew about the tape for a long time
hn2a1 was the first time it appeared
||It doesn't even appear in Reset Day||
- why would the neighbor be at his house after act 2. He knows Nicky escaped and the cops were coming so he would flee.
Have you seen the cop teaser
I don't know ask Ted
The cops were literally stalking him while he was in the house
Yeah, the one at the guest's house.
So he clearly didn't flee when they were there during the pre show
The landscaping and decoration is the same, but less finished
Not till hours later anyways
I'm still pretty sure alpha 2 is between act 1 and 2.
some more info
||golden apples potentially have the ability to alter life, and we have 2 new policemen||
||Officer Eve Ruston
Officer Darryl we-don't-know-his-last-name||
||eve ruston deez :trollface:||
||Eve hecking Ruston||
||Darryl Stokes btw||
||So it's again before act 3|| 
but
🤷
👁️o👁️
||guess music and teasers arent our only proof now||
||we dont even need proof its just confirmed here||
||I mean is it though? A bunch of people can have mustaches, not saying it can't be but I'd rather still keep my thoughts open||
||the ending has a guest take a picture and its the picture from the cover, hes showing himself||
......I'd ask why somebody would do that and reveal their identity but I don't want to know the context yet
||Mr Peterson logic: I'm a wanted criminal who can't show his face to anyone. I have to wear a disguise and hide among the shadows. I'm always on the run. Nobody can find out who I am. Let me just take a selfie and send it to some little girl I met she probably won't tell anyone or anything like that||
yes
norman knew about act 1 years before it happened
Small question: ||Can we read Reset Day even without having read the previous volumes? (Mainly Aaron Trilogy, I skipped it for now and I'll get it at the end of the year but I'm planning on getting Reset Day next week)||
||Ah, okay. I'll probably try to get the Aaron trilogy first then, but right now I can't really order Bad Blood so this is a bit annoying||
||I heard that some old characters will appear in HN2. Meaning Nicky may make an appearance, although probably only as a cameo.||
I always imagined him appearing on the news.
Just explaining his PTSD and what Mr P did to him.
Nikita said he will
кто раша пиши раша
I'm kind of interested how nicky will look in the new artstyle
Same
hey
Stop spamming.
sorry
||I just realized if in reset day Maritza is an aunt that means Enzo got married and had kids||
||he has two kids, jess and jordy||
||I hope we get an illustration of adult Enzo and Maritza so that way we have actual canon designs for them||
||Same for Enzo's kids||
||There's none in this book||
||do we ever actually learn who enzo got married to||
||probably trinity||
||I would assume trinity because she was his gf but still could be anyone I guess||
||but yeah I'm scared about shipping too||
||nope||
||all we learn is he went missing||
||the same day Pipers dad died and the day right before the Reset Days started happening||
What the hell is this book about
||Time loops||
||I remember looking up Maritza and seeing her corner Nicky with her right arm and left leg, with both of them blushing. It had the text “anime moment” over it ||
||I’ll show you it||
||I saw it too, I have no hope left for humanity||
||it makes me want to commit die||
I want to die
||Same, especially after they confirmed Neighbor Guest||
WHATS HAPPENING
||I’ll show you it||
Ive seen it
Huh?
New Hn lore without context
Pretty much
Why is Aaron looking like that
Ok 😔
read book 7 :wedoalittletrolling:
No that’s Diane’s brother’s friend’s cousin’s uncle’s pet, get it right you uncultured swines.
||the ending confirms it's peterson
||
||Why does Peterson have to be the guest! It made sense if the guest was a forest protector, but no...||
||The ending confirms that the Guest is Aaron' peterson??||
Why doesnt it make sense?
||They didn’t confirm neighbor guest, but we are supposed to asume it, it’s the most possible answer, but it could still be ike, aaron, or roger, because if golden apples can change life itself, and time loops start happening, why the heck not||
||Forest Protectors dress up as birds, Guest is basically a bird. Peterson appears at the end of Alpha 1 and 1.5. It shows him arriving in his car||
||forest protectors all wear hats, guest doesnt||
||I still believe The Guest is still a random guy.||
Seems dumb to do, but still possible, the voice in the ai showcase talking to alex, must be the guest, I’m not saying alex is canon but the voice must be the guest
What the hell anime moment
||I just thought of something.||
What
if it is the guest, he sounds pretty young to be the neighbor, or roger, maybe aaron
Alex is Guest
||What if The Guest is Lucy Yi.||
Pls no
Yeet
Only I have it tho :tinykappa:
||It literally confirms Neighbor Guest||
I've read the book myself
||If it means neighbor isn't guest, then I'm going to go with that||
||The book literally says it's Ted but k||
anyway
omg it was already obviously
im going to talk about this later in an hour or 2 cuz school, i bring reset day too because i still have a hundred pages to finish
||all they said about golden apples is that maritza hasnt felt happiness since she ate one||
||roger is dead, and Piper has never seen aaron, so she wouldnt recognize the face on her phone||
||i guarantee its ted||
||the only person it could be s Ted, and t makes sense with motive and the fact that they literally describe it as a mustache specifically||
||and teds most recognizable feature is his mustache||
||I think the part in the ending where the guest sends her the moustache man photo is what she sees on the cover of the book||
||the cover is the ending||
Yee
||i KNEW reset day had something to do with time||
||I KNEW IT. The name was so suspicious||
Quentin!!!11
||me knowing it since august
||
||Does it directly say he is the guest? I wanna know for somethin||
||the pictures in the book are of the guest, and he is described as a tall person with lanky limbs||
Yes
||the cover literally shows what she sees in the ending||
||Honestly idc I was wrong anymore, I'm just glad we finally have an answer||
||definitely the guest, and the mask even disappears for a few seconds and the main character points out that she saw a moustache||
||Quentin||
||before it was confirmed you had a point though||
||I mean, I will accept that the neighbor is the guest, and follow along with that, but I will still wait for edivence||
Spoiler tags 👀
Ok good
||there literally is evidence||
How about ||literal confirmation in the ending||
||It'll be hard to accept that Petersonis guest, I had an entire novel planned where Peterson is Peterson and guest is forest protector||
||in HG alone||
||how is that a comfirmation, and stop acting like I am argueing with you, I am not||
||uhhh, Peterson in the guest outfit?||
||and the guest literally speaking exactly like peterson and sending a picture of him?||
||hes also referencing another kids tune like tom tom the pipers son from book 2 (but more inderectly)||
||I accept he is the guest, but also, what were they thinking with the alphas of hn 2??? Like bruh, why put any lore in it if none is canon, it’s basically lieing, unless it’s symbiolic, which is dumb||
I hate symbolism in the alphas, it leads us nowhere
For me it took a bit
you only now get it, that it was all the symbolism?
||the real truth is is that the alphas did have neighbor guest stuff, but a lot of people overlooked and denied a lot of it||
like Neighbor and Guest at same time
I know, but why put the neighbor in the guest’s attic that does not feel symbiolic
||i still think my theory of the attic in alpha 1 is that neighbor_fake IS up there and it's shown as buff in the intro not to spoil it||
||maybe that's how quentin saw it at first||
Its shown as nft in the intro
||that was updated wasn't it||
No
||I will wait for the book to come out to see if it leads to anything else also||
Idk why I put that as a spoiler lol
No it took me like a month after the first game came out to release the symbolism behind it
so only now they believe that Neighbor is Guest. great.
moving on to man in the hat
*Mya
Oh God not the man in the hat
It’s not my fault they choose to make all the alphas and key art showing them together, that’s kind of just dumb marketing then
actually they are never shown together in the alphas
opposite actually
if Neighbor appears, Guest disappears
||liquify shitting his pants rn after his ego gets shattered by being disproven:||
Have you beat alpha 1.5 yet lol
yes i did
Show me guest in alpha 1.5 ending
Guest disappearing when Neighbor appears on the attic
The guest locked him up, ok the guest is still outside, the symbolism is that the neighbor sort of appeared, but what could him being trapped by the guest mean in symbolism, is he doing stuff against his will?
the guest locks up the kids, not the neighbor
The alphas arent even gonna be canon anymore soon lol
Whats the difference 
we don't know that for sure
Some events will return just not exactly how they were in alphas
Who is that voice in the ai showcase, the voice is too young to be the neighbor
because they making those alphas with actual release version
it's just for the video
You mean the one thats literally a distorted version of the neighbor’s voice when he pushed quentin down the vent
How do you lock up yourself
symbolism 
||you're telling me that he used a magic machine to make a twin and then kidnaps them||
Yes
you can lock up from everyone in your mind
symbolism
||awfully rude of him||
Attic is Neighbor's head
symbolism
i mean i still dont get arguing the legitimancy of alpha 1.5 since its clearly all symbolical and not real, especially with the intro and ending
Missing
They have posters in the ai trailer
Its the poster from the 1.5 intro
In the office room
the guest kidnapping the kids is most likely a real missing case, but its mixed in quentins mind with the symbolism of the guest and the neighbor
This is what happened
we tried to warn everyone but they didnt believe us 
When the imposter is sus
||it's true he is guest||
We tried to warn them
Why does the wiki say that guest is the neighbor
They warned us... but we didn't listen, now we must pay the price
Cause he is
Because ||reset day confirmed it||
Wow
I cant see it
When the spoiler isnt tsgged
Nice spoiler
the duality of man
Where is this from
Wiki
OH
I changed the page
How do you make a picture marked as a spoiler?
I have to read it
Its not out
you can do it on PC but not mobile
||anti neighbor guesters rn||
Zpefm got it early
You can only do it on pc
Quentin thinks that it was the Neighbor/Guest who kidnapped the kids. "you have a feeling..."
When its released I mean
My actual reply
Ok look
pre-reset day
That’s me everyday lol
Just ||read reset day when it releases||
||zpefm already did||
||he sent us pages and it's confirmed||
||I'm talking to baka||
||oh||
Why can't we have a hello neighbor book that doesn't break the literal universe for 5 minutes!
That was me
And ted did stuff leading up to it
He didnt capture nicky until act 1
When he had 3 chances to
He had a chance to catch nicky a day before act 1
I dont think the basement in game has a park
Are you glad that ted is the guest? It kind of just means he’s the only antagonist, unless someone else shows up
I wish he wasn't, it made the guest more mysterious
The guest is intimidating when he speaks english though
MIH
Oh yeah him
Because basement park was made from attractions from GAAP which was destroyed in the books but didnt get destroyed in game
that's my only problem really is its kinda boring only having one antagonist
I think guest is NFT
is mith actually antagonist
Hes a midtagonist 😳
He might be
why are all the mysteries the most obvious answer lol
Who is MIH
I think mith will be both good and bad
Man in the hat
Idk probably not, he seems to sort of work with the police, I bet mith is a past character
There are more mysteries in hello neighbor than letters in the dictionary
He's hiding from them in the trailer
I think we will be breaking into mith's house
Can anyone help me or tell me how to get the crowbar in hello neightbor 2 alpha 1.5 the crow guy keeps sitting outside the whole time and idk the code to get in the room with the crowbar?
Get a fire extinguisher and push it down using it
The crowbar isn't in that room
Use a generator to turn on the conveyer and bring it outside
It's behind the fence with the conveyer belt
Tell that in the #hello-neighbor channel
Bruh, norman darby’s description literally matches mith, except norman wears a cap, not a hat
This is only for lore discussion
And windbreaker jacket
hmmmmmmmm
Yea, but basically the same
Ike is neighbor's best friend
Which quentin also has 😎
didn't nikita say in the Q ana A that Quentins full name will be important in the final story
so like idk
Norman is a reporter, and mith is a detective, it isn’t a stretch for them to be the same person, also the wiki is made by fans, we don’t know his exact job
he didn't
No he didnt
We do know norman’s job
I thought I saw that
He said he doesnt have a last name for now
Ike is dead
He was a reporter for the raven brooks banner in the sixties
And his editor was gordon cleave
Book 5 told us this
wonder if that trilogy will even have much significance to hn2
The aaron trilogy
||now please don’t go on me for defending the claim the neighbor is the guest, I am not defending that he is not, I am simply pointing out that it’s possible they are working together and are not the same person, multiple people has mustaches, but I’m gonna go on a limb and just say he is the guest anyways||
I cant see a thing
Tap it
like what was the point honestly in introducing all those characters and luck devices other than money if it's not going to be in the game lmao
How do I turn it off?
(Its reset day stuff)
How can I not see it?
Uhhh
OHHHH
Just tap it, I hid it because it’s a spoiler
You have to click it
yes :0
Thank you
yay 😄
||now, uhh who is causing the loop, and why the poop is peterson kidnapping people||
That is ted
Nft is neighbor for trailer
Neighbor has Buff arms and legs tho
||i believe he is kidnapping people to get the pieces of a gemstone that allows people to not be effected by the loop||
||Yea, I feel like the attic is not canon, it’s really sad how literally alpha 1 and 1.5 have basically nothing relating to the actual story||
||so basically ted wants to live forever lmao||
I would really love to see an origin story to these luck devices in new trilogy
Attic might come
No, he’s got a reason, he may be crazy, but he’s smart
There is indeed place for the attic
Eh most of the time stuff like the attic is there for gameplay choices, but it might still show up
If you look closesly in the new blue house showcased in the stream you might have noticed that there is some space left on the roof where the attic was in HN2 alpha 1
They should add in the fandom, he’s most likely the guest, I mean i
he probably is
but still
if the slight chance it’s wrong then it will confuse people
Ye
They added that
I think there is gonna be both basement and attic
ye
Nikita did want to have the basement as a side quest in OG HN
It probably will be in hn 2
And he did say that all his intentions what he wanted to have in OG HN he is putting it in HN2
since we already know what’s in the basement
Probably not all, but most
||The guest is pure evil in hn 2, he says piper has no where the run, so what ted is doing, it isn’t good||
Ahh I can’t edit it 😦
there we go
The guest is always mean where the neighbor is a bit soft
alters be like---
I might be entirely wrong tho
||Yea, when you see the guest, he’s pure evil, I am surprise peterson went this far, because really, he never was that evil, he put aaron in the basement to protect him because he thought he was a bad omen, which is crazy and morally wrong, but still he’s not trying to hurt anyone, someone else is behind the loops, right?||
I think NFT is another person and he might be guest
Idk, Imma wait for the book to come out to get too ahead of myself, I gtg see ya
Even tho the book comes out on 4th I can get it only 1 to 3 weeks later
roger would be almost 100 years old
if the neighbor is like 70
actually no
he'd be OLDER than 100
||reset day has time loops and says golden apples might be able to effect life, I don’t think that matters lol, but either way, ted would make more sense ya know||
||it definitely isn't roger though||
Ye
One question tho, ||why at the end of reset day when the guest revealed the picture of the neighbor, the neighbor doesn’t look skinny like the nft neighbor how he should look||
Wait does Enzo have kids in reset day?
Symbolism
Neighbor does look skinny in cover
Except torso
Can anyone answer?
Covers are not that accurate always
And whom did he marry?
We dunno

how does it not say lmao
if their dad is missing and they're kids then who are they staying with
squinting my eyes only because this could have bad relationship implications
like if the kids aren't with their mom though
Oh
it's probably trinity or something
maybe she's out of town or maybe they divorced idk
||I think he married Trinity||
probably did
Reset day out?
i think only ZPEFM got it
Ah. Cus a lot of people started putting spoiler tags, so it had me confused
not till may 4
zpefm is from the future
He always was
I already sent everything that could be covered in other servs
for those in the servs thats really all thats important 
this channel turned into the SCP foundation real fast
nah
this whole server turned into a neighbor guest conspiracy
but no
cus it's already confirmed
spoiler tags exist
also
look at the HN serv if u think this is a lot, but tbf this serv has more
😔
banned there 😔
||Before I say this, I’m not defending the anti neighbor guest people, cause it’s just dumb, but stop saying it’s confirmed, because tentnically it’s not and could be put another way||
seriously?
||The reason why, is because the mustache could be someone else’s mustache, and the picture of the neighbor could be implying something else, now that is just completly dumb, like of course it means the neighbor, but it doesn’t confirm it that’s all I am saying||
||it's literally shown in the book that ted is in the forest protector costume||
||ted is the only one who is known for his mustache||
||also are you forgetting literal screenshots of ted in the guest costume||
Well duh, of course, but what I am saying is that it’s not confirmed that’s all
that's more than enough
Exactly
||A confirmation mean 100% is true, and there is actual evidence of up to date information, for example if they showed an image of the neighbor in the guest costume in the new book, it’s up to date and evidance, what was shown is not evidence, of course it’s probably the neighbor, but everyone acts like there is apsolutly no way for it to go any other way, which tetnically it not true that is all||
||why would they make a neighbor guest model if they were just gonna scrap it||
ikr
I am not defending the claim
||why spend so much time making a high quality model and rig with textures just to get rid of it||
I am not defending it :/
I'm not talking to you then
in the game where's main antagonist is Neighbor
who should be the Guest?
and why
just curious
If the neighbor wasn’t the guest, then idk maybe Aaron


