#lore-discussion
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yeah but mr Peterson doesn’t have it anymore
so maybe it ran out
||because it the books to me it seems like it is something one must hold for a period of time in order for the “luck” to change||
or basically just have
||so when cleave got it, things changed for the worse||
oh no spoilers
I forgot
That was like 5 months ago
Bc plot holes and timelines
Rational expression???
Nothing is rational about books connections!!!
do u think they had that stuff invented back then
they're most likely real tho :troll:
I think everything appears to be not canon because hn1 and the 1st episode is in the eyes/pov/thoughts of children
Versus hn2 is in the eyes of quinten who is an adult
I’m pretty sure that’s what Alex meant when they mentioned canon is subjective a while back
I’ll try to find the message
oh found it #secret-neighbor message
so like the ||luck changer|| and even the neighbors house is all different, yet the same
of course, it's an unpopular opinion but i really think this is sorta true especially because they have so many things going at once
and alex said it
like how in the books, 1st episode, and hn1 the houses of nicky and mr peterson are all different
maya and aaron have ||different rooms|| in the books too
Hello
book 4 is from 2019💀
hi

just testing some stuff


Game theory is wrong about hn lore
i didnt know that
what is the lore lol, ive not played the game in like a year lol
yes
oop
sure
ye
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cool
yeah]
WOAH
that looks cool
looks nice
nice*
but the normal neighbor looks closer and older
you can think as you wish (whichever makes the most sense to you)
Well, that's technically not confirmed but it's the most likely theory
Well to put it simply, that could be someone else, it could be unused/scrapped, it could simply not work anymore because of a story change, etc
Even if it is the most common and most likely theory, we can't 100% the guest is anyone yet
Not until full game or whenever they choose to show the Guest's identity
Yes there has. The main story so far has been Neighbor goes missing and the Guest takes over, and with A2/Full Game it seems that we'll be investigating Nicky, Aaron and Mya being missing with Mr. Peterson as the main villain.
We can't 100% trust Alex, he's lied in the past
Because, he's Alex
He didn’t lie, that was in january of last year, things change, are you saying the original story of hn is the same as the full game? Maybe the original story of hn 2 changed, as did models like in hn 1 models changed
You’de think that lol
Yes you are right about that
But it must of changed, since the keyart shows them together
atleast some
Idk tho, so alpha 1 and 1.5 are not canon? If they fogured out the story by now, you would think the alphas would be atleast some canon
Its kinda weird
Some of the stuff from alpha 1.5 might be in the rest but that doesn't mean alpha 1.5 is canon
Alex said the ending of alpha 1.5 would have some canon lore elements
He did?
and the ending of it, is the neighbor locked up
In the reveal for alpha 1.5, alex talked
I didn’t say that, and why would he lie? He is speaking for everyone at eerie guest studios, it is written from a script of what he was told to say lol
This is so annoying lol
Ye
I had all the vids and crap bookmarked
but I had to reset my pc and nothing saved
So now I'm struggling to find it
Can you link it if you have it?
I don’t, I could look, sometimes they delete the original live stream, I know he talked and said tho
Lol
It’s ok
So its a huge surprise when its not
For some reason I can't think of other games where thats done
Even though I know they do
I think it’s in the shocktober special
Well do you mean the anims
Cause since the alphas were feedback maybe since no one had complaints about the anims or there was no issues with them they just got reused for the neighbor
wdym
Oh that's what you mean
I mean I don't do that stuff but wouldn't it be a lot easier to tweak an anim for another model then make a whole new one
I mean I guess if you take out a lot of the stuff the guest "couldn't do" they are similar
Or maybe weren't developed at the time they are similar
Anyways I'm gonna be either not discussing guest identities or very little until I get all of the stuff I had in my folders back
Might not discuss much after that either considering
🙏
hopefully Alpha 2 is around the corner
huh
I looked, Alex also said that he doesn’t want to show to much content in the alphas, or else the game will be disapointing and spoils, also meaning the alphas are pretty canon
Not really Jack
Is this a quote or what you remember of it
I'm assuming it's not a quote but
It means he doesn’t want to show too much, but it also means WHAT he DOES show will be canon, because he‘s talking about what he shows. And yes it’s a quote
Well not exactly but close to a quote
He was talking about lorooororoeoeoe
Why
I mean the guest appears to be stronger but
do I hear excuses lol
Neighbor holds up quentin and tosses him into the tube
Guest Drags and runs to a window then throws you 50ft ATLEAST
If the neighbor is as strong
it hasn't been shown
The neighbor when he catches you in alpha 2, he will probably put you in the hole, since the alpha 2 house is the one showed I think
-_-
The alpha 2 house is probably the act 1 house tbh
Gosh if kraa doesn't get an alpha in a month hes going to reach the point where he goes on a mass genocide and murders every character in the series
👽
There is no way they didn't take inspiration from movies for these models lmao
Leslie's partner looks like tim lockwood
and MITH looks like the scientist from despicable me
Yess
which models
how do u know how many bones he has
we dont have the model yet
oH
no
i meant the models bones
Oh
Yeah they'd have to do a lot of rigging
Which would be painful
And it's all done in Blender
So they're dedicated
I mean the showcase stream
It is gameplay its just probably staged and very early
and I mean we got what 2 gameplay things for rotm all though they are still images
That isn’t gameplay though, the real gameplay, is like from quentin’s perspective, they show it in the ai showcase, where it gets low res after it splits into parts, all of that is in “gray manor”
Its literally the gameplay but from a camera lol
Maybe hn2a2 is 2 part, one part of getting evidence to call the police, which is in the peterson house, and part 2 in the gray manor, which doesn’t make sense, just call the police there then
I mean the scene of him locking up the door is prob an opening cutscene
of some sort
I'd be surprised if it wasn't I guest
When alpha 2 comes out will there be a trailer, or just like, hey look it’s out
that pun was so unintentional lol
no
All of that is in “gray manor”
there's none
imagine the AI trailer isnt gameplay of HN2A2
There is some security post but that's it
and its full game
Oya oya oya
is that a bokuto REGERECnce!?
Bugs go bree
wrong channel
O no
vibes
Lmao
i remember button dash playing hello neighbour
some my little pony fiction character playing the game lol
I legit never knew this game had a discord server-
This is pre-alpha all over again, all he does is watch tv lol
agagag
Says the guy who was talking about rigs not lore :0
just a joke
tHiS iS nOt cAnOn. yEa sUUUUrE
While I'm not saying it proves that the guest isn't neighbor
ye
Everyone I've talked to says they are "in a way canon"
You see them in the alphas, the showcases, the key art, seems like he’s not the guest
everyone here says they're not
"They are previsualizations of the game"
Also notice how NFT and Guest are never in the same keyart
zpefm for one your version of everyone is you and kraa
He said everyone here says they're not
I mean Idk what the devs have said but I'm pretty sure even krahen (come correct me if I'm wrong krahen) said they are canon to some degree
and he's a neighbor guester
Have you guys seen the anouncement trailer for hn 2 yet
I don't remember everyone that was there but a lot of people agreed it was canon anyways
Damn your delayed
the neighbor throws away the guest costume, while stil looking buff, meaning the old skinny version of the neighbor you see in that image on twitter, is not canon, and don’t say the anouncement trailer is not canon, that’s just rediculous lol
Doesn't change that your hella delayed XD
literally Classic, Krahen, and maybe CK and Devil too, I think maybe a few others but I don't remember
how does that make it not canon?
In the showcase stream it didn't
I'm pretty sure people are comparing it to HN1
I could be wrong tho
I don't know I don't watch him sleep ever
yeah but u could look at the anims
u could also watch the stream
Which stream
Because in showcase
does the neighbor’s leg twitch in hn 2?
I never saw his leg twitch
are u selecting the right version
Lemme check it
technically it does :troll:
I swear if you send a video of a pixel of his leg moving and call it proof from the showcase stream imma laugh
You can look I just don't see why I'd see it as proof
that's not our only proof
I didn't say that lol
just
I don't plan on getting into this anyways
No the neighbor doesn’t twich when sleeping. Also the guest is watching the police on his moniter in the fire room, on it you can see the static version of the police there, and another of quentin in the channel 4 tv mirror from alpha 2
You obviously weren't here but I've said multiple times I don't have my lore folder cause I reset and nothing saved so I don't plan on actually debating it
h ow
What new footage shows him sleeping and his leg twitching XD
and how is HN1 anims any less old
???
....i'm confused
The showcase is at most like what a year old?
probably not
we don't know for sure
it's less than a year old most likely
we can't know this
maybe they created this map 1 year ago, but with placeholders only
Alpha 2, is a prequel to alpha 1 and 1.5
not too recent
if alpha 1.5 is a sequal to alpha 2 of hn 2, IF that is true, then aaron could also be the guest I suppose
So im confused are you just looking to check or are you about to actually say its proof?
If the guest is looking at past footage lik you said
You can't deny solid evidence
Cause showcase stream sleeping is way more valid then HN1 anims
Never said he was, just saying it's possible 
ok if u want to use showcase as earlier proof
then
disprove the leitmotifs :trolled:
huh
if the guest isn’t looking at past footage, then he’s not in the neighbor’s house, since I don’t see any holes in the wall in the alpha 2 mr peterson house
your side of it
Im just gonna throw the next one out there cause why not I don't care if you start a war cause I don't have my folder to be a part of it
Its an imitation leitmotif
NF
what
and 4 how do I explain 4 to a 4 year old
Well I mean there are many possible explanations
yeah and
his revenge wanting son wh-
He wants to kidnap kids and pretending to be the neighbor would be a way to get away with it
Well that’s perfect then, if people allready know he seems like a bad guy, and they don’t have proof, being the guest and imitating him would make people think that‘s proof to arrest him
aparently not enough to call the cops
I mean they only come to his house because of nog-simming
not until after the guest showed up
how do u know
nog simming isnt even finished
Because nothing else makes sense
wait a second, I remember something hold on I need to look, part of me remembers something saying in alpha 1 that the guest didn’t appear until the neighbor went missing, but I am not sure, I forgot where I heard that from
nicky calling the cops on him
they didn't come after aaron and mya disappeared
and nog simming doesnt have to tie into alpha 2 but most likely will
wait
Maybe I was getting bsed cause I haven't finished the books
But I was told the cops don't believe nicky after he gets out
I would leave then, because we could spoil it for you
Sadge I tried to avoid it
Not if they apparently didn't beleive
Especially when Nicky had been shown to be obsessed with neighbor
Ok let’s say the guest is not the neighbor, now no defending that he says, just say if he was not, who else could he be?
new character
no one else besides ted could be him
Nicky had been shown to take things too far so its very possible they knew what he was capable of and what he would do to get ted arrested
aaron james peterson
norman darby could be, aaron could be under the cerconstances
who says the guest where glasses?
Wears
You lost me at aaron doesn't wear glasses
He could be 😳
Oh were talking about norman darby now tf
joke
Norman is aaron from the future
ye
That's my theory
I don't think it's true
But still
I mean since he is a revealed character its "possible"
Ah hell nah dude in the hat and hello guest ressle! 😳
Interesting concept
but we have never seen his face, so if he was, then tinybuild would just reveal him by a name instead
I mean
why would he be Guest
- he's a book character
Aaron hits a big growth spurt and he was already said to act like an old man
Yea not too many people know him
Stop
How many years "about" between hide and seek and guests first appearance
unless the guest is looking at past footage, then it’s not aaron, since hn act 2 takes place 2 months after act 1
Ike more like
How did aaron get the news ike was dead?
Enzo told him
enzo
Me
bruh, enzo is a liar lol
just a heads up
Chilllll
you'd probably get banned if u do that type of stuff
Thx
How to get banned with a couple of words
I got banned from dawko server doing dat
if ike is alive, he’s the guest, plus his middle name is quentin, so maybe quentin is related to him, unless it’s just to lead us away, because like why do that
lol
Gtg
What about roger tho, will he ever show up
This is better
He has a connection to a TON of stuff, seems weird to just kill him off, but still probably
are you sure about that
epic embed fail
Is there any other character the guest could be? Not that I know of
Ted
wtf would that not work it was a discord gif
Besides the neighboooooor
and not Roger bc he's probably dead
Lol
Rita already said they were "dead"
said 👀
Roger studies crows, he knows the tavishes who run the golden apple factory, and he works in the mayak, like bruh, that’s a lot of lore
The mayak will probably be a big focus in hn 2 since the how is your weather, and all the bad weather in hn 2, plus there is a tiny chance for the sky to go purple in hn 2, which is caused by the mayak
Plus the new raven brooks disaster with flash flooding, the mayak could be a place for rituals with the devices idk
he studies weather more
along with Adelle
ye
Wonder what will be after hn 2, some sort of spin off most likely, they need to use hn 2 aspects then to compete with this huge game
Ok gtg see ya
eye k quang tong ger show it
This is in the secret neighbor editor, idk if this is old news or not, it probably is, but if you translate it, it says (this isn’t an exact quote, but about what it says), “Warning! A hurricane is aproaching the city! If your home, leave as soon as possible! Evacuation!” I am confused, in the hn 2 files it’s a tonado, in the raven brooks disaster novel it’s a flash flood, in secret neighbor it’s a hurricane. Now don’t get on me if this is old news since it probably is, just let me know, and, if secret neighbor takes place in act 2, does that mean an evacuation happens in the town in or after act 2? It doesn’t make too much sense, since it’s not even slightly there in hn1 act 2, but maybe it will happen in hn 2 idk.
Yea it’s old news, I would be surprised if no one saw this
So. I have something to say.
If the neighbor is missing/wanted in SN, which is before act 2. That means he fled before Nicky escaped. Which makes no sense.
It always makes it seem like the kids broke it after he fled
What if the neighbor is dead
Map 4 ruins everything
But it would make more sense if Nicky called the cops on him
It just doesn't make sense when he flees
Also the cops have already been in the house in map 4. Which means they did find Nicky's room and stuff.
Also to answer: #secret-neighbor message
He's missing and wanted
What if the poster right here means that their was a tornado or hurricane idk after act 2 then the neighbors house gets destroyed by the disaster like he fled before the storm and it happend right after Nicky escaped
So he fled (Missing) and because of Nicky escaping and probably calling the cops (Wanted)
Makes sense
Yes that's most likely what happened
too bad
Are you actually serious or kidding?
I can’t tell
The tornado being after Act 2 I'm being serious about, the rest no
Hm
Let me put it into better context because even for me it was hard to understand
It probably won’t still tho
Because there is supposed to be a hurricane (Referenced as tornado in files) in HN2, ...if it isn't scrapped
cough RotM cough
Ok AHEM,Nicky escapes Mr. Peterson’s House right before the Storm, Knowing that his house will be swept away by the storm Mr. Peterson Flees, His House dosent burn down as we all assumed, it is swept away by the tornado, and this part I’m about to tell you isn’t based on lore it’s a pure guess, then that prompts Map 2 I think to be called “The storm is Coming”
And yeah that’s my probably not accurate story of after act 2
So, Nicky escaped. Neighbor fled. He went "missing". Nicky tells cops, Now he's wanted. Alpha 2 takes place before act 2. But we know that eventually (during alpha 2 maybe) we see Nicky escape, meaning act 2 happens during alpha 2 as well. So then he flees the scene and drives off and catches Quentin recording him. So the cops go around and put police tape up, they also go inside the basement and see the fake rooms, further making the neighbor wanted. Who knows what Nicky does after, and at this point who cares. Aaron is either still down there or also got out and ran away or went to the cops too. There is a storm coming based on the cop footage. Then the rest of the story.
HN2 is after Act 2 :troll:
I wasn't talking to u
but it's still after act 2
Does my theory make sense?
Somewhat
Does mine?
😡
The house was already confirmed to burn down
also lore
Also game theory says the neighbor works for the devil
Aaron, this is all your fault. If ypu had just gone to child protective services, none of this would have happened. 😡
Has anyone seen that?
Game theory bad.
Wow didn’t know you guys didn’t like Game Theory
Where (I think) he was partially right
Hi
Remeber when people thought Beatrix was lucy's aunt because they had similar names. (Umm, people can have similar/same names) 😡
😡
Beatrix is Mya and lucy's aunt.
Therefore Ike is Quentin-no I'm joking because Ike's dead
Would the funicular have crashed into the billboard in HG if it had worked?
Either that or the rocket ride would have
Well, the rocket isn't next to it. It's sort of below it.
But
It can stretch
So maybe
I guess
It can probably still somehow reach it because it's HN, what else do you expect
I mean
We already have devices that can bend luck
So
Rocket ride turns into SN rocket and flys into MITH.
Game Theory isn't accurate
Read the books
Can we actually start the cable car in HG?
That is because game theory made it when alpha 1 was out, so not much lore to go by. Wonder why he never did any other theories, he’s played the games, probably to busy with fnaf lol
Fortnites Dead get over it (:troll:)
XD
What
gosh HN people don't get any jokes
I mean I don't either but I figured most people knew about rocket riding in the game
I still don't get it but ok
There's a glitch in fortnite where you can shoot a rocket under your teammates when they jump and they'll basically ride it
I don't think that was a glitch
omg fortnite joke!!!
Calling hello neighbor at 3am gone wrong hello neighbor trapped me in it's basement
lol
In hn 2 alpha 2, we are right next to the new house, so this must be the main house, not the peterson house, unless they are both accessable, idk?
By main house, I mean the main gameplay focus
Well ye, the ai showcase has been out for a while
Maybe the storms are so catastrophic that all of those things occur at once
What
What
what are "all of those things"
Oh, there's confusion on what kind of disaster hits raven brooks. Is it a hurricane, a tornado, a flash flood. I said maybe the storms are so catastrophic that all of those things happen at once, that's why there's confusion.
My theory is that Neighbor is gonna be in this new house and the guest is gonna be in the old house
It was a glitch they decided to keep in cause of how much people liked it and stuff like thst
by geographic location it's probably not a hurricane but I guess it's possible
The only reason I think it's a hurricane is because it said so on the poster in SN
But it also doesn't make sense because of the location
So idk
Hmm
I wish there was a better answer then just saying SN doesn't happen
Wait in the context of the convo that completely changes what I meant lol
I meant more so that if there was further explanation to as what SN is then you could explain things better like the hurricane poster being a separate disaster in a different place that one of the kids remembered and so it was conjured into this weird dream/nightmare/scary story that doesn't happen
That's not half bad honestly. SN being a campfire story lol
SN was kind of just there to drop tiny hints about the story
Like the hurricane and the neighbor being missing and wanted
I get that I just wish it fit better in a timeline way
SN is a daydream
It's the only time Nikita saying "nothing is a dream" doesn't count
I mean maybe but I'mma keep my options open if they tell us something that gives it a fixed point and not just that it is after the kids all met
it seems likely to be a daydream though
Since it's in the backyard which is likely where the break in was being planned
I think each map will relate to a certain character
Lore wise
Like each map is what each kid imagines
Idk the first 4 but if Map 5 is GAAP then that's definitely Maritza imagining it
that would be cool, but I think for alpha 2 it will just be in the gray house
Yea, also if you get out of bounds some buildings are made of cardbourd so some is fake, idk if they removed that or not though.
How do we know SN is a day dream?
How do we know SN is children's imaginatoin?
NO
We saw the old blue house in the showcase
Maybe Secret Neighbor did happen but to a lesser degree. Maybe Enzo, Maritza, and Trinity tried to save Nicky by recruiting two other kids. Then they just get so frightened of page thought of getting caught by Peterson they just say they're going to do it. Imagine they're still there thinking off the possibilities of what they can encounter, then nicky just walks in and says "took you long enough".
I am asking how do we know its just an imagination, even the wiki says its confirmed but how do we know that
Exactly, I just think that if it was there imagination it would be very awkward for Nicky to show up after about 2 months and the rescue squad is all like " Oh, well to be perfectly honest we just came here and kept daydreaming scenarios of what could happen in his house". That seems like the most awkward moment in Hello Neighbor
How do we know that Nicky stayed in the basement for only 2 months and dont tell me wiki said , I am asking how does wiki know that?
The wiki says that
Oh ok
Well then
Oh my god, it all makes sense now
But we never see it in gameplay, plus it’s currently being investigated by the police right?
With the guest kind of in control of Petersons old place I think he had to find a new place to live temporarily
Also the old blue house is the peterson family home/act 1 house
I just call it the Peterson place
So you're saying sn actually happened
Also the wiki is always wrong
no
The wiki used to say quentin was ike
It did seriously
If you typed in Ike it redirected you to Quentin's page
And it says Nickys dad works for channel 4 which is not true
2 months between act 1 and 2
and the wiki is mostly right now
people like gavin have been fixing everything
because of vandalizers
It also said the guest is the neighbor at one point
Gavin is the only admin who actually does any work
because it's probably true
Because that was true
and back then he most likely was
At the time
Yea
So does act 2 actually take 2 months after act 1?
Yea I have read all the books, but I can’t remember everything in it
Which ones
All of them
yes
it was confirmed in a Reddit Q&A
all 7 (soon to be 9)?
yes
I usually see them do stuff
what have they done
he's not dead
I think it's because before HGA1 released, people used to think that Ike was Quentin
This was around until like after alpha 1.5 came out
yes
before i read neighbors notebook i didnt think secret neighbor was canon
surprised me
"Everything is canon"
**so hn bread is canon **
yea i still had difficulty understanding how the house was so big in secret neighbor and had went back to being small in act 2
SN mostly didn't happen
No. It just didnt happened at all
yea
and mayak
which is saying that gameplay didn't happened
it just confused me how it went from big in secret neighbor to small just like that in act 2
(the house)
I don't think Mayak happened
Wait... is Nog Simming cannon lore?
It is canon
hi
Average "Nicky and Mr.Peterson" fan
Average "The Player and The Neighbor" enjoyer 
Serious talk it's weird to call them nicky and Mr Peterson since I was so used to saying the player and the neighbor
Half and half. We still don't know.
They’ll find a way to shove it into the pre-established lore
Probably not.
Wouldn’t make sense.
At least from the trailer.
Yeah
I don’t know if it’s released.
I don’t have Stadia (and I will never have it because, ew)
It would only make sense if the kids lived far away and the builds were just trying to get to Mr Peterson’s house.
Or we could have the kids dream it.
Probably imagination again.
Yeah.
what about she
I think someone (Likely Enzo) ratted them out to Mr Peterson.
And they thought Mr Peterson was one of them.
Minus Enzo of course.
Unfortunately, they never broke in. They gave up. Which stinks because that would have been cool.
Broke what?
Oh ok
I think they will break in, in the animated series. Idk but that's probably why they are trying to trick us with all of it being their imagination.
HN basically uses "imagination" as plothole proof tape
i wonder what the neighbor did with his son after he pushed his sister off the edge of that building
Very true
He locked him in his basement along with his son's best friend who is the protagonist of HN1
You didnt play the game?
yeah all of them acctually
Then how do you not know this?
The player from HN1 is the son's best friend
He wanted to save him from the basement but neighbor ended up locking both of them up
oh 1 question
Its not a theory
Confirmed
how can i get the secret neighbor
Buy it on steam
oh
You said you played all of them ?
also who is the guest
No one knows
not secret neighbor
Oh
all of the other ones tho
What do you mean?
imgoing to re read them
Uh?
all the books
yeah
im hyped for this new game
does anyone know when its being released
lets goo
Where?
are you sure about that
Yes
Didnt you see IGN preview of the game
It's not an opinion
No but IGN is saying that there are gonna be multiple neighbors
IGN say that we are gonna be breaking to houses of multiple residents
Exactly
Well Neighbor got a new house
My theory is that guest is gonna be in his old house
We might even be breaking into MITH's house
He is creepy too
Who knows?
There can be atleast 3 residents we might break into
Neighbor confirmed
MITH is returning and he is not hiding so ..
And the guest from previous alphas
True
I’m gonna re read all the hn books before reset day comes out, which is may 4th
I’m gonna do it in order and read the prequals first tho
Reset day is taking place after hn2 tho
That sucks
Girl named Piper is protagonist
Yes, where does it say it’s after hn 2?
I think the raven brooks disaster graphic novel happens between hn 2 alpha 1 and hn 2 alpha 1.5
Hm.
I personally believe he’s a random guy.
Or at the very least, someone we’ve never seen in the games.
Every time we go against someone like u we have more evidence
Yet the game is implying in 1.5 that he is the Neighbor
Crystal has a point, as far as what was shown so far the neighbor is not the guest, whether your a neighbor guest fan or not, we don’t know what’s gonna happen in the final game, but for now the neighbor is not the guest, acording to the alphas
for me, i think that the guest is the neighbor, but that the neighbor isnt the guest
Who is that neighbor for trailer
Is he Mr.Peterson or someone else
I know that
But...
It doesnt make sense
There is also fake neighbor
True
what i mean is it only goes one way, the neighbor isnt fully the guest, but the guest is fully the neighbor (at some point)

We havent seen NFT in game
So...
He is not canon?
well this claim could work if there isnt time travel shenanigans (curse you book 7) and if the game decides to be doused in heavy symbolism like how act 3 is
No we didnt
Of what kind
HN2 is not gonna have acts
Isnt that fake neighbor
What's the difference between NFT and fake neighbor ?
All I see is fake neighbor is NFT with neighbor mask
WHAT
He does
where does it say when reset day takes place?
I don't think it does but we can assume it's around Act 3 because Raven Brooks is run down (I think) and they have cellphones
Where can you find the reset day sneak peak, I los it
lost it
If it takes place near Act 3, then forest protectors are still a thing, even though some got arrested
Idk, either way we will find out next week
smartphones
How many time did Nicky stay locked in the basement until Act 2?
2/3 months
A yr ago he was shown as the Guest what
Probably just for hype.
ah yes so theyll make a model all for nothing
and according to alphas you all saying that alphas are not canon
logic 100
No one has proof that the alphas aren’t canon
And we have proof that their plans changed
really? show
Well, we call all of this proof, but I mean we can’t technically confirm anything, but if tinybuild is continueing on their plans with the key arts and the alphas that’s sort of proof
and he showed 
what is the point of talking about it
https://twitter.com/tinyBuild/status/1216840809451905024
literally
That was january of last year, things have changed tho
it's better to talk about what the heck is happening at all and why hn2 exists at all, rather than who is Guest (which is not important at all)
how do u know
something wrong with that?
I cannot give proof this is canon, and I refuse to argue about it, but so far tinybuild is on the path of the alphas where the guest is either enimies or working with the neighbor, it’s unclear which.
Yea, lol, no point in talking about lore until something comes out, maybe I’ll talk about reset day, as long as others have read it tho
what evidence?
i didnt know tb was developing the game
How about we stop arguing and realize the guest's identity is pointless to find out
this thing about who is Guest is a thing just because of this discord and dudes who thought that Guest is Aaron, even tho THEY LITERALLY SENT VIDEO in twitter
He's not the neighbor, he's not aaron
Hes nobody
Until full game releases
There
Problem solved
go play 1.5 to see the evidence hes neighbor? ight
Dats food
wow thanks
Guest kid transforming into the Neighbor
its true
neighbor is not guest for sure yeah
The neighbor is the neighbor
The guest is the guest
Yes
The is the
No more arguments
But in the trailer, the neighbor is dressed as the guest
Lore solved
the guest is the guest who is the neighbor
Well, he holds the costume, not wearing it, but k
What trailer?
If your talking about A1 he's just holding the head
Which doesn't mean anything
why Guest world exists, what is this
who the hell Quentin, Beatrix, why they appeared out of nowhere
why Quentin at same time reporter and park guard
who is man in the hat, why his has is very similar to the hn1 hat
why man in the hat * insert 10 questions about him *?
but no, who is guest is more important
ofc
I can understand discussing his identity in a civil manner but seriously some people are just down right jerks about the guests identity
What happened to Aaron?
he became the guest 
Well we don't actually know
just forgot about this question and that's it.
Alex said that they are not going to answer on this question till the release.
But the most likely theory is that he burnt the house down to escape
xd
just talk about something different
I know this is old, but who is the shadow man in hn1? Does it represent a feeling? Why the shadow man is not in hn2?
I still see Neighbor Guest evidence in 1.5 so Idk what ur talking abt
I don't think it's /ban
Neighbor man in the hat, because Neighbor also has exact hat in his house, in act 1
that's it.
moving on
it was planned all this time
Lol
the music
Since TinyBuild was born
why Alex
lmao
Alex was busy with no time to explain
i think the issue rn is that there is evidence for both Neighbor Guest and evidence for Neighbor Not Guest but both sides ignore these things and dont address them, or just say they are unimportant/scrapped
Neighbor isnt Guest, obviously the guest is the neighbor
Reminder that if ROTM isn't scrapped that means neighbor guest still exists cause he's the main focus (according to the screenshots anyway)
he planned our actual conversations
Aaron is gone
No one is getting anything done if you defend your side to the point of not listening to the other side, this is called lore dicussion, not lore arguement!
No
theyre gonna pull the rug out from under us and the guest is actually everyone, a symbolical representation of the deep part of their subconscious that contains dark fears and grief 
Neighbor guest is still used you know
By people's logic beatrix is scrapped cause she's not in 1.5
so why some peoples saying that video from twitter is scrapped version of GuestNeighbor
Cause not smart
so far in the current alphas theyve been hinting at guest being neighbor in each one of them
uhhh yes actually

this would match up if HN2 really is Empathy, because youll be searching deep inside every character and helping (empathizing) with their issues and helping them solve them along the way
I think because it was long ago, and right now the neighbor and guest have been seen in seperate locations in the alphas, so it appears as scrapped, but not confirmed
If someone hint isn't in a recent alpha people say it's scrapped. It happened with mayak, neighbor guest, beatrix, ROTM, and the park
I just did-
Ofc that's not true
These aren't scrapped
The leimotif
what else do u think
#RebuildTheTown isnt about actually rebuilding the town, its about bringing the people back together again
What
oH
Who said that-
thats what it is
Guest kid disappearing, Neighbor appearing on the place, where's Guest kid disappeared.
literally your alpha 1.5
Well what is the anti neighbor guest evidence in 1.5
In the alphas they are pointing at the neighbor not being the guest, since the guest locked up the neighbor in the attic, but idk
who said
and its already enough evidence for us
I didn’t say they were, I am just saying the direction they are heading is anti neighbor guest that’s all
The fact that HG, HN2A1, and HN2A2'S endings all contradict eachother
why they wasting their time making alphas then
yeah because u cant disprove it :troll:
but they don't have endings
Br
For feedback so it doesn’t end up like the last game
it's just cut version of cutscenes
The neighbor in front of the house and the neighbor in the attic
They aren't cut cutscenes
They're alpha endings
HG is the only acception
also something thats funny is that when the neighbor is missing the guest is around, when the neighbor is present the guest is nowhere to be seen
Exception heck
Kind of
They don't tho
We don't have any mayak music
The HGP track is guestthemetest so it's not mayak theme
Guestthemetest?
mayak and the guest are related so they share a similar theme if you consider good ending a different song
Some h1 alphas had canon endings
I am confused to why the guest would blow up the mayak at all, is he either trying to destroy it because he’s trying to stop the mayak event, or is he trying to destroy evidence in it that leads to it?
He's trying to take down the wall not the building
I don't think blowing up mayak would help stop the event itself
That’s a dumb way to do it lol
It seems to be coming from elsewhere
Well it's a prototype so not canon
just get rid of a tiny hole in the wall not the entire thing :0
yeah alex said outright that its not canon
Instead of doing his job quentin goes on a ride that makes no sense
Ye
Uhm
The kra noises have springs and wood on em
Extended arms can be on costumes
His behavior is human like
And his golden apple is just a piece of candy
those can all be chalked up to the fact 1.5 isnt real
I dont think 1.5 isnt even canon
yeah but the ending shows it isnt real
yeah alphas are not canon, neighbor is not guest
but what about man in the hat
like
imo only 1.5s ending is real (canon too) because it can still get used elsewhere
who is man in the hat?
why his has is very similar to the hn1 hat?
why man in the hat is watching us in hello guest alpha 1 everywhere?
why man in the hat is not helping us?
why man in the hat wants to arrest us in hga1 ending?
why man in the hat acting like he knows that Guest is totally real and he knows about him a lot?
why man in the hat is related to the police, but hiding from them in the trailer?
why we can't call the real police and say them about man in the hat?
why man in the hat is hiring us in hga1 as a guard of the abandoned park?
Well, they say when the neighbor is gone, the guest appears, but that is because the guest locked him up in alpha 1.5, what is weird is that they use the nft model in alpha 1 to show the neighbor is locked up, but that model is used to show he’s the guest at first, but then in alpha 1.5 it’s gone, the neighbor even has a guest like ai in alpha 1, but was scrapped for the new model of the neighbor, idk
what
he doesnt lock up the neighbor, he locks up the kids
I think a few of those can be answered tbh
The man in the hat has his eyes closed, meaning they don’t want us to know his eye color, keep out for anyone with a certain eye color, they could be him
w h at
have you seen the ending to alpha 1.5 lol
that's why she's cool 
in the ending, the neighbor is locked up, Idk if those kids will
Denem outfits
even appear in the full game
Or whatever theyre called
Guest kid just magically disappears
kind of like how in hn2a1 the neighbor magically comes out of NOWHERE
the kids are already in the new version, their posters are littered everywhere
Yea, but that must not be canon, it doesn’t really make sense
- there's candies that all relate to missing people
In alpha 2 they show missing pictures of nicky and mr peterson, weird how fast they produce missing papers, he just left the house
a small handful of odd-looking leftover Halloween candy.
yes
