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the hell does "wrong proportions" mean
dementia is literally a condition where you slowly lose memories of everything
it isn't funny
yeah people would rather literally die than die with it
people suffer from it
just imagine losing memories of everything youve ever experienced
youre messed up in the head arcanum
my grandma didnt even know who i was the night before she died
"lol" and "dementia" doesnt belong in the same mssage
she couldnt remember me
did you know that death is something people suffer from and yall joke about someone dying
not funny too
here
Its a fictional character..
yeah
Itd be worse if I talked about a real person..
you know what
Which YOU ARE
you're sick
shut up
Oh I'm sick?
Yes
Just fr shut up arcanum
Doubt Dwern feels good rn
Arcanum stop typing
This discussion is ended
You should still expect someone mention a Disease/sickness in the internet
The only thing that's the same is the gloves and shoes
Its called
Edited uv
Because if you edit the uv a bit
You can make it look the same as the guest's
Oh and one final piece of evidence
These being in the nft folder
Now the discussion has ended
Oh look it's the textures for NFT shoes and gloves
They could've kept the Visitor_D names
But didn't
They intentionally changed the names
The settings are edited
I'm still wondering why would they give nft neighbor clothing if they already showed us the guest neighbor
why would They hide it
Nikita said the opposite
ok?
Ok?
mrc vs mrn
As yall say
He didnโt say it was anything else
bro
p
show
nft version
normal guest version
They changed these on prupose
No other reason to change them
What if nft one is older ๐ฑ ๐ฑ ๐ฑ ๐ฑ
Yeah
Proving they had a guest model
Which they couldve used in teh gameplay screenshots for rotm with neighbor guest
we know they did lol
Why would they
development
There kinda is
Ok give me one
the entire atmosphere Changed and raven brooks isn't a deserted town anymore in the ai trailer it's a living town
Maybe because they changed it to fit the story they had planned with upcoming books
Because its around act 2..
The neighbor isn't the guest anymore 
Where is that confirmed
Just wondering
They're Nikita
What
Why would the guest go away somehow find his car again that's nowhere to be found and then put off his guest clothes
As ive said many times
to look at the attic
The time those teasers were made were when hn2a1.5 wasn't even a thing
Hey arcanum theres a saying
or hn2a1
It's not confirmed anywhere but it also wasn't confirmed we'll still be getting the same exact story that we got in HG with Neighbor guest
Neighbor Guest Believers in a nutshell
Bruh your calling us stupid because we have a theory
I'm surprised how you haven't been muted yet or warned while having called people dumb and told them to shut up multiple times
How does that have anything to do with the argument at hand
Still
Smh im leaving theres no evidence pointing to the neighbor not being the guest good bye
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There is
not really
the neighbors car just came out of nowhere and the guest drove it here
?
the guest suddenly grew muscles and got thinner?
and shrunken his arms
Makes perfect sense because time travel and timelines!
lmao
I feel like the people who believe in Neighbor Guest are the same people who complained about the new artstyle of HN1
i love the HN1 artstyle 
2 neighbors 
sure?
the neighbor
i did actually doubt it a little during alpha 1.5 but now im 100% sure he is
i think its neighbor too
If you want I can share some in dms classic
engine
4
4.25
that conversation changed quick
Guest is Neighbor and no ones changing my mind 
Same
I like to believe the guest is just the guest. no one particular is under that mask
it just the guest
I like to believe that the Guest is air
Its a costume
But classic if you want I can share some evidence in dms
if i had to make an assumption about the people who dont believe that the neighbor is the guest i assume they havent read the books, they think HN2a1 was after Hello Guest, and they think that timelines dont exist
hasnt it already been confirmed the guest is male
you don't know that what if the guest was found in the garbage
no thanks
It was
creatures have genders
no a creature is a creature
well i seriously doubt he's a creature
Its not a creature
and what creature has everything a normal human has
what's your evidence to that claim
A creature is a speices not a gender
Theory: NFT is a creature
No you're NF
When NF is taller than MITH
Nikita said somewhere we'd find out Guests identity in full game
When proportions arent 100= accurate
that part would be rotm imo
Anyone can be the guest?
where
omega
ok
He said just in full game
He did if I can remember correctly
And I think his identity is going to be revealed in rotm
full game is coming out on the next few months if they ar sticking to the 2021 date
Since we see unmasked guest in rotm test stuff
amon gus
because guest is actually mya
he's nots online
He in idle
yeah
Hes ALWAYS in idle
ok
Whew
Good
Me and my friend can finish our leslie model
Stg if it comes out while we work on it
I will evaporate into thin air
it's coming out definetly later this month or next month
if you can't wait a few weeks then I guess
october was 6 months ago making this officially the longest wait between an alpha of a HN game
alpha 3 to alpha 4 was like 5 months
I hate hn2 YouTubers now they made the devs call the guest crow man
amon gus
Don't talk about Guest Neighbor for 1 month challenge (Impossible)
I won't survive
No more Neighbor Guest arguments, the non Neighbor Guesters are signing a peace treaty with the Neighbor Guesters
ggaming
don't use the old 2019 teaser for guest neighbor as evidence for 1 minute challenge
Nooo mooore quentin
petition to end this stupid discussion
) impossible)
Imagine if we see quentin being killed by peterson and being submerged in peppermint in hn2 lol
And then we start off as beatri
x
The treaty states we will be able to have our own opinions and theories without argument. If anyone breaks this pact, it will result in public execution.
I'm expecting for some good animations and gameplay in HN2
It won't end until Full Release
we already have good animations
Ik
why not? its valid evidence, old or not
guys the guest isn't the neighbor bevause in sn the guest is a separate ai from the neighbor
I don't see how he posted these comments (I dont see ?)
no matter who the guest is theres gonna be alot of toxicity once its revealed
it's getting repetitive that yall don't have any other evidence except for that and timelines
true!
if it's Peterson then I'll be laughing at y'all non neighbor guesters
And also from some Neighbor Guesters Believers
the fact is that it makes sense
music and right leg :troll:
why can't i see
we see buff neighbor around act 2
messages of nikita
why can't mecit see messages of Nikita
I'm panicking
guest is in the two places related to theodore (park and house), guest showed up when neighbor went missing
because the leitmotifs, the animation consistency between guest and neighbor, the plot connections with the books, them having the same exact AI, them showing the neighbor as the guest multiple times, and multiple timelines being a likely possibility isnt a lot of evidence
Die
you know what fine
I still wonder who the mith is
I believe he's the neighbor
Youre just saying that so we leave you alone
I have to force myself to kind of because I still don't wanna believe it
nah
but I wanna believe it but my gut is holding me back
Gloria
i dont care whether anyone believes in it or not, but i am starting to get annoyed that people are saying its an invalid when its not
thund3r is becoming an aaron guester LOL
Would you like me to go over the evidence RESPECTFULLY in your dms
Cuz I can do that
I believe in nikita even though it is old teaser
everybody gangster till I use my pendulum and ask my spirit guides if the guest is the neighbor
probably a bad idea
Arcanum
that im annoying them with that
Do you want me to respectfully go over the evidence in your dms
sure
I'm getting off too that these teasers will work in full version
when the neighbor is gust! ๐ณ
Ok
*Aaron 
Neighbor is Aaron

Les go
omg im putting that in my evidenc folder!!!1!
Aaron and Guest have 5 letters, meaning that he's the guest!!!
Nibor has the same amount if letters as guest 
wth is this chat anymore
sosed does
UM
GUYS
Welcome back
hi
UH... UH....
same
AKSJDAm
I dont wanna download stuff
Noo dwern
DWERN
COME BACK
anyways ive converted arcanum to our side
we win again!
I'm booting hn2a1 up
I joined the dark side of the force
it's a joke lol
Basically, it's a ferris wheel with a cylinder and it goes faster each item you put
yes
Can I actually see it
it's the one from the rotm image
you can push the tornado
I don careee I wanna see it ingame
@agile hare summon BP_mill_c
Do it
put this in console
Or death
AAA
Wait why are the planks gone
BRO
OMG
they were there for me back then
I guess you need to put the planks
the planks from the image were there for me
Was it alpha 1.5 or alpha 1
alpha 1
Alpha 1
I killed ted
Holy crap it's placeholder house
so basically
windmilltest is somewhere rendered bevause uuu only spawns in stuff that's rendered in the map
or used in it
Put items
what items
It's there
Also car keys are somewhere invisible rendered too
there's things in this map that ar just invisible
already did
and bevause the windmill is that leads me to believe rotm is rendered inside this map
ye, car keys are invisible
but invisible
OOO
well, we already know that HGA2 is basically the very very early alpha 1
even before the actual Peterson's house was even made
Ted's house was made when the name change already happend likely
what name change
There was never any name change
was anyone ever able to recreate the placeholder mill house thing
Alex said there was
It was always hn2
He said they decided the name earlier 2020
U never trust Alex
e
mill is quite large
Hes lied a lot
He said hn2 was just an early draft name
i dont think thats accurate
but looks cool enough
to hide the fact they changed it
He said that whne the hn2 picture leaked
the only unaccurate thing is the giant mill
with the guest
no, to hide the fact that hg was always hn2
Are you Mykskslwlldoddo
hg was a codename to hide its real name
No it wasn't
Here we go with the arguements again
just bevause Alex lied once doesn't mean he always lies
not an argument just saying facts
LOL
See
Hes lied more than once
put the boards on it
it'll start working
from the attic
and the mill will spin
Okay so did Nikita
since when
now we can't belive him with anything!!
and your saying youve never lied about important stuff
boards aren't able to be picked
do you seriously think Nikita never lied in his entire life
sad(
the mill begins going faster and the tornado also goes faster
Bro Alex literally confirmed they were making a hn2 from the start
it also pushes Quentin
if he's in the air
cool
just waiting to see this all in the final game
Bruh dont tellme your arguing about hg being hn2
really?
that doesn't mean It was called hn2 "bro"
ye
it is
whether it was originally suppose to be hn2 it is now and its not scrapped simple as day in my opinion
It can be hello guest and still be the pre-alpha FOR HN2
oops caps
youve never seen it before?
ze mun
Is that just a weather cycle or does it look like the sky is changing
IT IS
Also
Last time I played the sky was pretty much clear
the tornado is Spawn able which means it's rendered somewhere but invisible
also, the items that are near the mill will begins being pushes off also
same goes for neighbor
i think they changed it to more hn style-ish
looks pretty
same
Trash On The Mill
Well bye im gonna get kfc
thats why they need to make sure he has multiple ways to get into the house
Woah where did you get that alpha 2 leak
Because sure the glitches are fun but I dont want them in the full game
WTF
also, BY THE WAY, this is not what I expected but the tornado is going CLOSER and clearly not away
WTF
Is that part of your joke or do you think rumble on the mill is going to be alpha 2 cause I thought it would be full game
joke
Ok
I can't even enter the house at this point LMAO
Rotm hopefully is in full game
It will be
I really want a giant windmill house where I surveillance the neighbor
the tornado doesn't let me get more items
I mean they can I just don't think they will
I wanna see what happens when I get all the things
U just discovered this now? lol
is it bad people didn't know something

yes.
then you should rethink the way you think about people
k, it's done
Nice
THE rumble on the mill
there's a propeller hat going around and around cus of the mill, send help
lmao
when I delete the mill every item floats there for the eternity
the ritual
also all items that were flying cus of the mill just get thrown
wait do physics objects get sucked up by the storm?
Yes
yes
this gives me an idea
what if you attach a rope to the end of a box and hold the other end of the rope
does the box and you get sucked in or does the box stay with you
hn2 a2 download link appears
lmao
Cool
Guest and his Fire Extinguisher: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mKu5vk00XFY
Him still not being able to get in cause hes an idiot
Me and my fire extinguisher then
I have returned
no
I am eating my fried brethren

rn I can't get the tornado to pick objects up
i think rotm is about the mill
and
you have to bring the tornado closer
to destroy the house
maybe when its fully powered?
I'm putting them where you can see the tornado and nothings happening
I'll fill it up completely
it's bevause the game hates you
yo classic
you wouldnt happen to know if tb has the full modelling leslie vid would you
probably not but doesnt hurt to ask
i would not know that
damn
i know as much as you guys do
i was hoping they could make it public
so me and my friend had more references
hope they could give it to me and my buddy
probably not though
we will see
Yeah rn I just don't know where to put the items to have it be picked up
But I'm only trying it on certain items rn
can NOT wait for rotm it seems so good
and it gives us more evidence towards guest neighbor
housegasm 
excuse me
house
when does the next alpha come out
prob this or next month but it could take longer
guys hes canob
My face when the neighbor guest is canon
I have a theory that Maiya is the fear sport not Aaron because when she died she wanted to stay and not ascend but then her spirit got corrupted because of that and
What
I dont know what you just said
are you saying mya is The Thing
Whats The Thing again
Like
Ik its the shadow dude
But what is it representing
fear
When the fear spirit is watching you from the neighbours print down house it wants you to not live there so she turns into here father to stop you, then when you see the fear spirit trying to kill your younger self she is trying to stop you from being haunted for life.
the thing
Burnt not print.
isn't real
it isn't real
The Thing is a representation of fear i guess
why would mya try to kill nicky
Yes that is it.
Wait what
Oh right
To stop him from being haunted by what happened for life.
After act finale
Um
why though
Wh
That is why his fear was the neighbour.
he already was haunted
Mya is dead ofrever
nicky already knew she was dead
And thats good
Shes annoying
Because of that state he gave Nicky when he escaped.
have you read the books
No XD
I stg if people think that Leslie is Aaron
I will lose my shit
figures
Yes they might use the same meshes
But so what
nicky knew mya was dead
and he also knew where aaron was
In la bas a manta
But arrincould have killed himself in the basement due to depression and that's why he isn't down there with you.
Aaron.
he is though
He literally IS down there with you
he is down there
He unlocks the door
At the start of act 2
nicky talks to him in the books and he frees you in act 2
But how do we know that.
Because
He is seen
Outside the door
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we see him outside the door
Hes a cardboard cutout because dynamic pixels were too lazy to make another kid model
I won't die without watching this teaser and the videos here
Yes you will
so you're telling me a flying paper drawing freed nicky
Its nickys representation because he is stupid
I believe
And deserves death
No.
then why is aaron there
Nicky is stupid and has imagination
the reason he was a cutout is because they didnt bother to make a new model until hide and seek
Yeah
Mfw dp lazy
It could be the fear spirit giving up in trying to kill you in result letting you free.
are you serious
read the hello neighbor books
Is this man high
figuratively I said
except yours isnt
the books outright deny it
It could be though.
THE BOOKS
BRO
stubborn
as i said
this man on some of that good shit
and i want some
the books disprove it
what are you on and caaaan i have sooome
Yes I know.
THEN
????
Also go to Woolworths and buy some bananas smoking them makes you high.

Not even joking.
That has nothing to do with lore
interesting fact but i'll pass
People like this
like i was saying
deteriorate my brain
My brain is shriveling up
So I may not be correct but it is a good theory.
Its not
Even a theory
if it is disproved
then it isn't a theory
it's fanfiction
Its just random bullshit you made up because you were high on bananas
Ok you got me there lmfao.
Who the hell thinks of smoking bananas
My god
Well you can get high off smoking rosemary too.
Anti ted guesters trying to come up with ideas for why he isnt the guest even though its been basically confirmed
also i googled it
and no
bananas do not do that
Mhm
I don't see how he posted these comments (I dont see ?)
Nikitas message
The books were pretty good. i read them all
Yes they are and why are we picking for the cops to have coffee and not look around the graveyard
because who doesn't wanna have coffee 
In all seriousness though why are we not looking around the graveyard
Because it's very strange that he offered the cops coffee how do we not know if he's a member of the society and the coffee could be druged
Would not surprise me if he is a member
Theyre not gonna kill them off like that lo
Remember ike
Leslie and his bud were actaully modelleedd
He got caught by the society for asking questions and look what happened to him
For all we know the game could take place at the same time as gone missing
It does say in the A.I trailer everyone has a story and they can all be interacted with
And nog-simming is a lot like the books they do not have happy endings
For the main character
For 1 nicky in book 3 ends up kidnapped 2 Aaron in book 6 ends up destroying hes familys luck by cursing it just saying the endings for the main character never end well
And in the books the main character is trying to find someone they go looking around raven brooks they find out what happens then something bad happens to them gone missing the main character is looking for someone they are looking around raven brooks and in the books and this story someone is following them
Maybe the grave yard keeper will tell us something important
asd
I agree
Hello neighbor
Hello neighbor hide and seek please add it for android
Ya not a good match

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What
Ya soo sad๐ญ
????
Sorry
Hi

I think that old man from the 5th chapter of noge simming is the Guest: the raven man.
Choosing to have coffee with him sends leslie to the guest world
Hahahahahaahahahahahahahahhahahahahahahahaha
๐คฃ
people, please vote for the choice to investigate the graveyard in Nog simming
no petersons the guest
No. Aa-
here we go again
-_- you are obsesed
im jus statin fax
No I mean no one will be talking about neighbor guest and all you talk about is neighbor guest
Um
People talked about the guest's identity
And I just wanted to say what is pretty much right
Aint nothing wrong with that
Guys its aar-
Zane
Im saying this is one instance
I am moving to your location at the speed of 30 miles per hour
Oh god
All you ahve to do is escape
Youve done it way more then one time
Why does it matter
Because its annoying
Im jus correcting peopl
aka being annoying
How is helping people understand
Who he is
Annoying
???????
Because for one its not confirmed that he is and 2 because no one has asked
It literally has been confirmed
By ingame screenshots
I give up im not having this discussion with you all I ask is that if Im not talking about neighbor guest DIRECTLY dont bring it up
Stop pinging me
its called replying get it right
see how me pinging you is annoying now you talking about neighbor guest 24/7 is like that but 10 times worse
Most likely Mr. P, but not exactly confirmed
Liquify
Thats
Not the same thing
Im trying to get work done
Then you shouldnt have been in discord in the first place lol
uh no. Ping is annoying. U are forced to read
??????
your fault not mine
WHAT
is this dude stupid
wdym
how is it my fault
that youre pinging me
I didnt say it was your fault that I was pinging you lol
you cant follow damn
how is it my fault that im in this server
im in here
because im interested in hn
wtf are you on about all I said was that if your so mad about me pinging while your trying to do work then dont be on discord to where ive seen you put a message recently and assume your talking
ive done nothing wrong
to you
and whenever i speak anywhere
you just start being rude to me
-_- I mean I really dont care what youve said to me but you have sent personal attacks at me lol
what's happening
lol what
"personal attacks"
what the hell does that mean
you literally made fun of dementia
a serious illness
what?
yes
what are you talking about
oh wait wrong person
Since when were we talking about dementia
you and arcanum are similar
tis no matter
anyways i havent ever sent any "personal attacks" at you
so can you stop making up shit
thanks
I mean you literally sent a video three times with specifically my name and it was an insult thats called a personal attack and oh by the way this was during what should have been a lore discussion
apparently this is a personal attack
tis no matter
Aaron is Guest right? 
Like I said I dont care what you say but yeah in combination with the caption with my name and I cant remember what you said is a personal attack lol
if you dont care
then why
bring it up
You brought a personal insult into a lore discussion
Because I can
but youre calling it a personal attack and an insult
can we just move on
as if it actually hurt you
and discuss lore
maaan i give up
And because you specifically said that you had done nothing to me and since you love correcting I thought I would too
i have said
i give up
lets discuss lore now
Im down to discuss lore I literally only mentioned it cause I saw he was talking and I wanted to address how annoying it was that he brought neighbor guest into almost every convo anyways
"almost every"

omg what now
neighbor is guest

Agreed
almost every what does that change its still annoying do you mind stopping
Thats all Im asking is can you stop
i only bring it up when people are talking about the guests identity
which is indeed ontopic
Cap but whatever
people believe what the believe
im a guest guester
Im a poop pooper
I mentioned the neighbor and the houses we would be investigating in the game and you mentioned it

It's on the HN server
Im BANNED there
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I dont remember why its been like what
2 years
No offense but Im not surprised
lmao
I didnt even know hn2 existed back then
Shut up dyno
I hate you
Doesnt mean you cant be annoying about other things lol
but if i may ask you
can you just tell me why you think this isnt evidence that the neighbor isnt the guest
Because the only confirmation youve given me that that is a neighbor model and not a neighbor_fake or someone else is that is other teasers of the same guy
its not a neighbor_fake model because neighbor_fake is the man in the hat
I havent heard you tell me how you can for a 100% prove thats a neighbor model
b wtf
what
he literally is
Are you saying this because of the first model having his eyes and his eyes only because I swear that makes me want to backhand you
He's taller than MITH
So anyone can be the guest
Please tell me you have something other then his eyes being on the unfinished model as a placeholder
I will beat you to dea
hes not wrong
How do we know its unfinished, it was fully animated for a cutscene so that means it was indeed finished
If it wasnt finished
Why animate it
and yet it was only a secret ending because they decided to do another ending in the ned
Its not a secret ending
Its an unused ending
Im saying what its called in the mod you have to use to see it
The files mention the animation as prototype
either way if it was unused they arent going to finish it just to keep it unused
Bad uv
Egs must die
And I imagine multiple people might work on modeling and animation
Also just wondering
So possibly the model wasnt done but the animation was
what
Why make a new neighbor_fake model if they already have a nft model
Which can be used
FOr the neighbor guest
(and it was
)
You're a dev?
It makes the most sense
Geometry is the exact same
Uv can easily be changed
So im trying to make sense of what you said cause the wording was weird are you saying because they didnt already have a new neighbor_fake model there is no way they didnt make a new one?
No
They had a nft model
Like
How do I word this right
Just
you do realise for me being a neighbor_fake theoriser who thinks the model is neighbor_fake your wording makes no sense
But why make a new model for nf when theres already a nft model with a complete face 
Yeesh I never realized how bad the neighbor_fake model was
Why make textures for NFT just for them to be replaced by Guest textures
XD
I think nft is a older version of the neighbor guest model
Because neighbor guest model seems way more detailed
Because nf is not nft
But why
Make a new nf model
When theres a
eh I give up
By the way you said something about how weve already seen aging do
this to a person
I wanted to see what your talking about
I dooont remember that
Could be my shitty memory
You said we saw it in hn1
That was probably me rambling
Cuz hn1 neighbor is thinner than hn2 one lol
No
Yes he is
Cause I said how does aging do this to a person and you were like cause weve already seen it happen or something and I was just curious
Hes less fit
You mean NFT right?
Agreed its a different artstyle anyways so things like that can change
Why did they make him so pale in hn2

idk
Nikita said it would explain why he's pale
What would
The full game?
Oh god neighbor guesters are gonna use this as evidence
I can see it already
im a neighbor guester 
But hold on
Why make a completely new character
That looks exactly like the neighbor
Just to call him "fake neighbor"
I dont get that really
pretty good
Meh
Im tired 4 today
I mean if the guy in teasers is nf they dont look the same
Also Ive heard people use this as evidence as neighbor guest evidence when its old
Still
Im not using it as evidence
That image literally just confuses me
Why would they ever use nft as a simming poster
For buff neighbor
Well it was an alpha poster so I dont know if buff wait a sec nvm buff was in the ending for alpha 1 wtf
Mhm
And that one looks thinner than buff
In the poster
Egs weeeeird
Why make it so extremely detailed toox
New theory people think this mr. peterson going missing but its actually nf going missing you go to the house go into the attic and the real mr. peterson shows up at the house confused about him being called missing and you get the ending
half-baked but still
I dont think he would have been gone for long
Maybe just for one day max
So why would
The alphas are weird bro
Im trying to think of what they were thinking of when alpha 1 was being made
They also changed his missing poster to neighbour_lowpoly
Yeah
So even weirder
Cause at this point its not canon
Egs are funky !!!
And I will steal their files
And get neighbor guest
Release it
And achieve world peace
Technically since alpha 1 isnt really canon anymore this isnt what the vision of nf looks like now and is why the teasers could be nf
Im gonna make the guest a douchebag
Because hes a douchebag
