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I mean the splash screen for hgp when you activate the launcher is a hga1 screenshot
If im correct
hga1 screenshot but looks different
It just doesn't make sense with the story we have so far
I mean Neighbor guest
My brain is melting lol
And its either a 19 year gap or guest is the neighborās bad side and symbolic
Like how alien kid, pumpkin kid, and guest kid are basically mya, nicky, aaron
Also this š³
but dev did funni š
Ik
The guest was made before them
Yeah but still, it's kinda random that a cult of bird people is introduced after the evil bird man is introduced
Like, specifically bird people
Not like, demon people, or just a normal cult
Nothing similar with the guest besides beak
Also the guest has a tongue, and climbs like a creature of some sort
Guest doesnt have guest friends (i hope) or does rituals or is in an all black suit
Forest protectors arenāt creatures
Ik
Ik, aswell
Also the ātongueā is part of the mask
But still, a bird cult, introduced right after a bird themed antagonist is introduced
Even if they don't have similarites
Means nothing
Carly isnāt a developer
Forest protectors are long gone by the time hn2 starts
They need actual similarities
Right now the only one is having a beak
But she can't just make up whatever she wants, she has to stick to stuff that fits the lore
I think
I would assume so at least
Its pretty clear that the guest is the neighbor, and the neighbor is against forest protectors
Rn, my theory is that the Guest is someone who has seen forest protectors, and made a sort of mock up suit, but it looks nothing like the original costumes. Maybe someone trying to revive the FPs
and no, I don't mean Aaron
Thereās 300 percent more evidence to it than it being anyone else so i mean
Yeah we do

I donāt see the issue
I think it's the fact that buff neighbor is buff and not that skinny unlike funni bird man
The way the Guest moves, and climbs doesn't look or feel like something a 40-60 y/o man could do
he evolved
He runs exactly like the neighbor does in act 1 ending

And jumps the same
Also the climbing is in 1.5, which, again, isnt entirely real
the climbing didn't seem that hard to do
i remember someone said that it's because animator is same so he's doing same animations lol
They both limp
lol no
The guest and neighbor both limp
it's not like Yuri can't make different animations at all
did you saw what he's can do in blender at all
Yeah he put alot of work in the face test for it to be āscrappedā
I mean, the same could be said for other things from HN1
Haha
Yeah idk
Get rekt
I'm big dumb rn especially since I just got up a bit ago
So my lore discussion brain has not fully yes'd yet
The
the
they actually do fit pretty well if you compare the two side by side
kill it
please
yeah but thats funni NFT, how does Buff go from buff boi to skinny
NFT is his past present and future
Perhaps well
That's the main thing that doesn't fit right in the neighbor guest thing
but all other theories are red herrings
efe
Yes
?
sorry i'm a little angry That's why I say I don't care
Me and my friend have this weird experience
when we die
Mr. peterson is at his car crying because of soemthing...
something*
is that normal?
Yeah
act 1?
cause if it is yes it is normal the Neighbor got into a car crash with his wife in the car and his wife is injured it is one of the nightmares that you can get
how does the end of episode one line up with act 1
??? what do you mean episode one
of the tv show
i havent seen the tv show yet
what happens at the end of episode one
just watch it
by this logic a1 and 1.5 should be scrapped 
then how would act 2 happen
how would Nicky get locked up
haha deletion
how does this tie into HN2
not really but k
I missed like half the stream, did we actually get something about that?
yes
The Red Guest theory: This theory is that there is a 2nd guest roaming around Raven Brooks who knows Theodore Peterson is the guest, he tries to put clues around Raven Brooks so people catch onto him. Just like how the neighbor becomes the guest since he is on the run. The Red Guest also tries to as he is a convicted criminal. He is from the alternate dimension of Guest World known as Red World
what
that kinda of sounds like a decent idea ngl
but thats impossible the guest captured Theodore
???
i havent played the hn2 yet since i play on xbox
my personal theory is that isn't actually Ted he captured
rather it's Neighbor fake, a version of the Neighbor in the files
bird is the neighbor in cosplay
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How old was Ted when Nikki moved to town?
nicky but ok
40 im pretty sure
In the Neighbor's notebook it says he was 40, but Nikita said he was like 57 or something, which doesn't make sense
no way hes 57
it's strange because Nikita said on the stream that Ted is about 50 in HS
i mean
the neighbor seems to be closer to his 40s (just my opinion)
in HN 2 he looks like hes in his 50s tho
ok thank you
In book 1 he's 40
I think the guest is Aaron
Aaron would be a teen in HN 2 right. Guest is an adult
Yes

Wrong channel
hello is there a way to play heelo neibor 2 alpha online
No
casso
Lets just say the neighbor like mega be lame
and thats why his kids are ded
and deded the ded man to death
there whole lore explained
what
the neighbor is the guest
huh
I sent him a "guest Neighbor" meme and he asked me to send him an invite just so he could say that
He's a friend of mine
shut it dez
š³
Haven't heard that name in a while
Anyways lore discussion
I predict within the next 24 hours a livestream chat kid will join this discord and say something about Aaron Guest in here š³
Aaron guest
no
I think Smith or the Man in the hat is multiple people not just one dude
Why is there no attic in hn2 a2
it's after act 2 we think
So the neighbor literally drilled a hole to make a hide out
Yes š³
yes
Or Aaron
the attic is makeshift
maybe it's just something we don't do where i live
but i've never seen anyone with a door in front of their house on the roof
that leads to an attic
Same
Same
I donāt think anywhere has this
I don't live that far from Missouri, which is where Raven Brooks canonically is
In the books at least
And it's not common near me
So idk
Most houses just have a trap door in some closet that you go in to get to the attic
At least itās in the house
we literally just have one in the upstairs hallway
Mine is in a closet
But who would make a door leading right into their attic where literally anyone could go in
someone who has the intelligence of a deflated balloon
A deranged psychopath who has lost his family and has killed multiple kids
Yes
no
ok
Maybe
Perhaps
who do you guys think the guest is
i think he is the forest protector from the hello neighbor book
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A forest protector suit is literally a black cloak with hundreds of black feathers with a black sharp curved beak, eyes, sharp talons
So I was right the whole time
yeah, definitely
Plot twist: Alexus is guest
And, that's the only thing he's ever said in this server š³
he's watching..
^
Told you
Neighbor Guest teasers were around December 2019
yeah
no fake fanmade
Neighbor guest teasers are fanmade??? š³
Maybe ahead
You not disproving it but acting like it isnt possible

baka did you see my act 1 theory
who
Its book related but still #648186907708227624 message
not really. a forest protector is just anyone who looks half human half crow
how so
Reminder that it doesnt have to be FPs being how Guest is known
How else can it be?
I mean yeah Theodore is known but Nikita probably doesn't mean him specifically but more of the concept of the guest
There's literally giant statues of Guest
in aplha 1.5 hello neighbor opening cutscene a kid is wearing a GUEST costume

probaly the one we wear at te endo of the game
Yeah
I mean i saw that cutscene
When i saw the little kid i thought it was
Aaron or another child
i saw the full pilot of the first episode of the show
This was my face when he captured them
Me too.
me just wacthed the cut secen
watched the cutscene
Just to fix the word you said : )
Yeah shoes in hello neighbor indicate death
wh-
Yeah most of the time, when you see a shoe that means the person is dead or missing


Big brain
What do you mean if he has different shoes somethin' happen'
guest is tillman
i dont know how many times i have to explain
guest is ms tillman who went insane and became a FP after too many kids blew up her speakers
Answer please
Lmao, impossible!!! :1
Why would kra drink blood
Cause he's a forest protector (real) (not clickbait) (3am challenge) (hello neighbor ate my happy meal) (sad) (cops called)
I was gonna add more but I think you used every click bait video title lol
Lore
If the guest is a real creature he might be a Frankenstein type creature because of the stitches
But I doubt it
It's possible
Yeah
The guest sometimes acts like a creature
He twitches his head sometimes and the sounds he make
Ok
.......
....
basically this is whole hn plot
guys its time to solve the plot of hello neighbor 2
this channel
hello creep download free
Goose is Peterson
november 2019
I mean when they were posted
around november and december
And why do you people say Aaron is the guest
Where the hell did you found it
Or know it
its a joke
the basis of the theory is that Theodore locked Aaron in the basement and now he wanted revenge
Ah yes i could have heard of it
Difference is that in the books hes distraught over killing Mya so he believes he deserves it
Oh monkey man in a hole full of bees
I readed the book and he killed her for mistake
I mean i'm so sorry for her and him
A lot of people say he's too young to be the guest but thats not good counter evidence because age in the hn universe is very weird
Considering the neighbor is aparently 57
in hn2 and is 50 in HS
Holy jesus
I thought he was 40 years old
Back in all the hello neighbor
and that in hn2 he had like 45
OOH-
isn't most of Hide and Seek the same year as HN tho so like 1995
yeah
In the book it says that it's 1996
nikita and carly have conflicting canons
neighbor is both 57 and 41
maybe HN2 is set afterwards and the FPs changed their design
What matters is not only true mourning, but also how it shows
I mean they're probably on different timelines
what do you speak
Age
I thought you spoke mecit
Aaron is a k i d
You do know that hello neighbor 2 takes place in the future right...
Iām not an Arron guester but still
It is also before act 3 which also means Nicky might be an adult a few years ago which also means Arron could be the guest (like I said before, Iām not an Arron guester. Idk who the guest even is)
....that doesn't make sense
Idk itās kinda hard to explain
Hn2 is most likely right after act 2
Well then u can try and disprove the recent teaser
Which people are saying is after act 2
What
It means it's likely right after act 2
??? You just showed the teaser
That didnāt show anything about it being after act 2 bruh
The missing posters...
Lol you should have said that the first time
Arron and mya missing posters so yeah it could be
If HN2 took place years later Aaron Guest would make a lot more sense
Like Aaron escapes, tries to hide away by disguising as a Forest Protector
Captures his dad for revenge
Yeah
Thereās a thing I want to mention but I canāt explain
Maybe

Maybe, but whatās a warm?
Ohh
Quintin also looks fatter
Bigger boned*
I wouldn't say he's a coward
But what if, After Mih got Quintin, he hired Quintin to investigate. Doesnāt make sense but could be possible
Ending of hg
Also might be the reason mih is watching, but it also could be him being weird again
Trying to solve the hn2 lore be like:

Weāre not sure if thatās a hiring thing or something else
My brain is already tired so letās just say that all of us are confused
Lol
imo the guest hasn't really done anything that a person couldn't tho?
Neighbor is 57 though which means hn2 is in 2012 š¤·āāļø
He twitches his head - acts a bit weird- can literally yeet a human - makes weird noises
the only thing in that list is the yeeting imo
He didn't even say 57
Lol yeah
That's what everyone has been saying
i forgot about that lol
He said he doesn't know if he's 47 or his 50s
The noises he makes is also weird
trying to decide character info can be complicatedš
Well even if he's 47
I've changed character ages alot lol
that means Aaron would be 20
why?
It's funi because everyone says guest can't be Aaron because he's a kid but thats not good counter evidence
How old was the neighbor when Arron was born
Theodore was born in 1955
Yes
The books say that the grandparents did research in the 60s
Theo and Ike would go there and Theodore drew a pic when he was 5
logical
Also I know its not good but Notebook says that Theodore was 40 when Nicky came
and Nicky moved in 1995
don't trust Notebook
ohhhhh I see how you got aaron would be 20
Does anyone know how old the neighbor was when Arron was born
It's not the best but it also proves my point that book 6 tells us
because by that logic 47 from 1955 is like 2002
ok but that still doesn't disprove HN2 likely being right after Act 2 
what
How long after
??
I said that, if the Neighbor was 47
87 bruh
hn2 would be early 2000s if we go by thunders logic on when the books said mayak was built and when the drawing was made
and in Reset Day we see old neighbor
My brain rn
That's the interesting thing
It seems to be jumping time through time periods
Why would there be cops
we also see Nicky
i mean, the cops pulling up to teds house would make no sense if he was gone for years
Or maybe this is before alpha 1/ alpha 1.5
but tbh I feel like it's just another case of since nikita doesn't write the books the info won't line up perfectly
Thatās another question, how does the books work
because he kidnapped a child lol
Does Nikita tell Carly Anne west the story or does she make it up
I thought HG was before alpha 1.5 but apparently Quentin works there part time yet he looks completely different
Carly prolly makes it and Nikita approves
me trying to understand the lore
lol
Lol same
accurate
Lojic


HN doesn't go by 1 set of logistics
You either go by book logic or game logic
or both simultaneously
HN2 might take place after act 2 and after act 3
What I think the time in hn2 is: alpha 2 then alpha 1.5 then alpha 1 because guest kid is alive in alpha 1.5
because HN2 may jump time periods
bit complicated
Each story set in a different time
probably will tbh
ill explain in a bit
hn1 did
D.C.'s server 
I mean screenwriting and book writing are different
AAAANYWAY
oh

tB and the rest of the team make up the story, Carly puts it into the books
afaik
yes that probably includes EGS
Me trying to solve the lore
I will solve the HN lore
I hope the full release will explain everything or at least most of the stuff
It'll give more questions
hey Empathy, yeah you, explain everything
We have a damn weather device that alters luck
which is not even a measurable quantity
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/732357451969593384/798272433375019088/Untitled_40_480p.mp4
Alex after leaking the Guest's identity
Haha
it was already obvious tbh
Did he say that the guest is the neighbor?
WELL
If you were to go back thru history of this server, yes, you'd find literal screenshots
Where
one min
there's more of them
I somehow still remember Alexs tag
but these are the key ones
get real
Lol reading all the hype
What did it explain other than Aaron burning
piranha?
piranha, yes

its not cryptic
its a piranha
what else is there to say
what else is there to day
you saw nothing
Quentin
these are great, are there more?
i believe baka has a guest macarena one
I mean well some version of time
Well speculating is still theorizing
Nothings ever gonna be confirmed
Neighbor guest and timelines is honestly just a fact at this point
Thereās multiple teasers of it and we have no proof any of them are scrapped
Idk if there's time travel but I was looking for a thing in the book the other day and uh
I remember that
this is from book 3
Hello engineer
Oh that
šš¤£imagine
but I guess he lowkey thpught it was? fun, since he decided he wanted to build rides to simulate danger like it lol
Can we just shut up about neighbor guest
no
it was the definite theory during HG era
ok and
no one asked you apple
;-;
still is
You guys talk about it every day
We get it
Bring something new to the table
or open up an old theory
Who cares
that doesn't even disprove anything
Nikita reacts to my messages
so you admit he is based off a forest protector
What
Because theyre part of the folklore
I wish Aaron did that
If neighbor was guest, wouldn't he be at mayak? Since that's the only place that's the only place that he knows?
hgp
Also no one goes there too
insert the bad side theory
Thats a possibility too
these discussions are so calculated
What abt the park
And yknow his own house
Crystal become neighbor guester and all your pain will end
why
literally can't hear anything
Hes not a pro streamer yet
Turn your entire volume up mhm
they're at 100 percent but ok
Then your headphones suck more than his microphone
why are you always so rude lmao
Drama overload beeep boop beeeeeeeeep booop
what
Lore
They literally throw a bunch of neighbor guest images at you
Because theres way more evidence to it than literally any other goose possibility

aka never
Theres the ost, the animations, the proportions
Im proving things you wont listen to thats the issue
You dont think the neighbor is the guest because you dont want the neighbor to be the guest
yeah isn't that why you don't like Cleave mith
While for neighbor guest theres literally a soundtrack and multiple images that have yet to be disproved
That was half a year ago
Which is why this arguement is dumb, no one listens
it continued to like October-November
Its pointless
Then there's no point in having it all the time
Does it look like its november anymore
recent
no it looks like December
You literally reply to messages from classic from like 2 years ago
Prolly because lore discussions were actually good
now they're just pointless
it is pointless because everyone is slowly getting dumber and not listening to anything

Im tired of this
No one listens to the evidence
Why did no one worry about the guestās head size BEFORE hn2a1
I miss when neighbor guest wasn't a theory because we could focus on other stuff
Now that they gave us an outdated build people worry about it
Buff!!!!
Yeah in builds older than the nfteasers
He has, hes the guest
Adult aaron uses time traveling to become the guest
At the end of the day Nikita could pull a left turn and go a completely different route
with beta 1
Where Nicky was the neighbor's son
this fandom is gonna go crazy next week
wonder what it is
are u trying to compare hn1 to hn2
Plot twist
Nikita changes his storylines a lot
he could do the same for the guest
Luanne and Neighbor dated so Nicky is actually Peterson's son there, canon
but for now neighbor is guest
only like 3 times lol

only 3 times
Alex "leaks" Guest without mask and it reveals to not be neighbor
He could
Let's say, hypothetically, NFT isn't canon
Alex leaks canon stuff all the time
My problem with the neighbor guest thing is why they leaked the pictures
that's so stupid
Omg Aaron real!1!1!!1
and then pretend like the guest is a mystery
They leaked it early on so that people would disbelieve it later

Pre alpha to alpha 1
Alpha 1 to Alpha 2
Alpha 2 to beta 3
Reverse psychology
That's just dumb
what if those got scrapped and aren't real anymore tho
It actually isn't
So Alex spoiled who the guest was
Here's the identity of the character! oh no he may not be but we won't say the pictures are scrapped or not oh no big plot twist
They unspoiled it by acting like alpha 1 was a brand new build
Its not dumb if he isn't important
what
There's literally only a single piece of evidence that disputes Neighbor guest and that's BN but even then we never see NFT with guest
Im gonna say something controversial: Neighbor Guesters are worse than Aaron Guesters
Alpha 1 intro
Lore
Theories
Lore
Depends on which ones
Heres something not controversial: youre wrong
how is showing your mystery character then pretending that it doesnt exist equate to good storytelling
What if
Guys new lore topic
ah yes topic change
NeighborGuesters get a little TOO carried away, Aaron Guesters are just dirty liars who pretend to have proof
What said the guests identity was a big thing
This is all worthless and we see Ted crawling into the costume
when you can't respond
Quentin is beatrix
I'm talking about the ones who defend Neighbor Guest like it's their child and if you have counter evidence your wrong no matter what š³
I don't think the guests identity is gonna be a big plot twist in the final game
Counter evidence is possible
Because it is wrong :troll face:
it'll happen and you'll move on
I'm open to interpretation
Anti neighbor guest has a point
But aaron guest doesn't
We all need to be open minded to some extent
The issue is theres way more evidence pointing to neighbor guest than there is either disproving it or proving someone else
Yes

Some dude said "neighbor isn't guest, more evidence to aaron"
I just think neighbor guest shouldn't be a theory if we all want it to be treated as fact
I asked for evidence and he just ghosted
Guys Beatrix is guest
look down
There's some evidence for Aaron Guest, but it's all unlikely and speculation
Alpha 2 needs to come out
this fandom will have a panic attack if its not out soon
Her 2nd eye is on mayak
She has Demoman from tf2 backstory
ā a fandom will go crazy in late february ā
Beatrix went to Merasmus and her eye gets torn out by the book
Bro it could be another fandom
depends whether its good crazy or bad
Both
A fandom will go ultra disappointed in late february
It's going to be
Gee i wonder if it will its only been what like 7 years since hn1 started
h
HN1 but development ended on december 2021
Thunder
Why would it be
U were leaving
No, the game will release in december 2021 and october 2021 was a placeholder date š
better to have a delayed game than a bad one
You havent even played a recent build thunder
Why delay a finished game
none of us have
Exactly
To polish the game and fix more bugs š
Why think hn2 needs to be delayed
What if they did that already
If they want the game to be open world
The game can be jesus christ
should of put a comma
Nicky also walks on water š³
if they want open world stuff that isn't just a bunch of random placeholders then yeah it'll take time
I mean, probably have already
If the pre alpha painting is meant to be us
Thunder are you aware now old the builds we have are
also if we end up having 4 alphas and 3 betas then it shows that the game will prolly need more testing
It wasnt
O l d
I know
Then we're playing as Jesus Christ himself in pre alpha
Please
The alphas had tons of bihle references
Placeholders probably gone already
If #lore-discussion was a room I think only around 5 of the ten people would make it out of here alive
Hn1 alpha 4 (when the puzzles and stuff were decided) to release was only like a year
Hn2 has been in development since 2018
It depends on what will happen
Nicky can walk on lake water, Guest can also walk on lake water
So that means Nicky = Guest???
Yes
If the final beta isn't good it should prolly be delayed
Mailbox had 14:14 which I think has something to do with the ten plagues of egypt
Now a delay is unlikely
Now youāre just iffing
What
I think the game is gonna have 2 alphas and 1 beta
Its like saying
Is bad
Remember that Nikita also reads this chat
what good has actually come from the last few months since alpha 1.5
What's the lore behind hi Neighbor alpha 5 guide
Someone get history behind the horror to do a video on Peterson
I mean I wouldn't be surprised, there's a really good art he made that's on his deviantart on back to the future so that's kinda why I assumed the time travel bits would be legit in hn
Cool
It's one of my favourite film series too
We have more in common than I thought
banned
nikita has good taste in movies

you should
neighbor in hello neighbor 3 (empathy) using the delorean time machine to go back and save mya from aaron (the cop in hn2)
If time travel is in hello neighbor maybe buff neighbor/skinny neighbor are from different timelines that time traveled?
Maybe
If they use time travel to fill in any loop holes I'm out of here

Wally Franks?! 
I stopped believing time travel now I believe in alternate worlds like guest world
Ok but please donāt spoil anything, I havenāt finished it yet
I mean, its been 2 months, so...


ike is d e a d

something about puzzle master
sounds like me when my one personality agrees to too much and then my other personality has to deal with the responsibility

Quentin might be his nephew or something
I mean... considering they look rlly alike and that he has Quentin in his name...
prove ur point pls?
Why Norman? Quentin doesnt seem to know wth is going on
Norman is like the one guy who solved the entirety of HN 2 lore before it even came out
do you know any other reporters who wear a baseball cap, have messy hair, wear a windbreaker jacket with multiple pockets, have glasses, big hands, and jeans even in the cold all at the same time
I swore I thought it was a bicycle helmet
quentin has a baseball cap
Even tho I just read the entirety of the book yesterday, I barely remember thhis description, except the cap
but Quentin looks quite young
When Neighbor looks like a grandpa
I dont think I need to re read it, since u just told me his description
Is there a way to turn off pings automatically without having to do it each time I reply?
I had a theory on who the Reel man was I'm pretty sure its the neighbor
After the update of hn2 trick or treating
I knew it was one of the hg game
Who were trying to help that neighbor who went missing ļæ¼
Turns out that mr.peterson is not the crow guy
or is he
No
gavin you didnāt let him finish
i thought he did
He was typing lol
oh
wanna know something interesting about it
What?
it's the neighbor's theme but this track plays around the guest
Let me check
also yeah you're right, quentin's looking for theodore
I donāt hear it
Thats true
I just hear the cool hn2 soundtrack
Donāt you get?
this is the part it plays
The conversation had neighbor guest


