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The neighbor would have had to modified his house while Nicky was captive otherwise how did the house have more rooms in the warped memory
Maybe that’s why hn2’s Lay-out is different
Is not completely real
act 1 to 2 is also 3 months
2 months
2, whatever
im pretty sure
thought it was 3
Ok ill be back
which makes act 3 set in 2015 i think
1996
13
people thought act 3 was in 2005 or something like that before it was confirmed to be 19 years later
yeah
they thought nicky was in his early 20s
I can agree with the thinking it was before 2010
now we know its after
yup
Bcz he cant pay his new house
basically
I think it's Rus
the only thing you can really make out is the word "evicted"
The thing the mysterious figure appeared when he get closer to Peterson house
it says he's evicted for not paying rent, but the text is in anagram
The thing
there's more but that's the summary
Yeah the mysterious figure
no it's not in Rus
Yeah
He exploded during a finale of the original game
And teleported a small building with Mr Peterson
No people thought it was
I did
as we know Aaron is not the guest
well we don't know that but it's a popular theory he's not here
im pretty sure Aaron is still alive
There’s a wanted poster
No
Behind the fence of map 4
Its a waring
well yeah here's still only roughly in his 20s / 30s by the events of HN2
if HN 2 is before act 3 then it would be in 2007
The hurricane approach
or 2006
Hn2 before act3?
Yes
Oof
its a theory that has a crap ton of proof
not really a theory as a dev confirmed it basically
oh
from HN 2 you can interact with
Yeah
Also there r 4 channels at least
In the tv
When the firsts tvs existed
There used to be just 1 or 2 channels
Tv exist back then 80s I think
Yeah
i personally think HN 2 is set in the mid to late 2000s because it has to be a long time after act 2 but also a while before act 3 because people rebuilt the town or something like that
yes
i honestly think they have not made a HN 2 style nicky house yet
excuse me
In HN 2 alpha 1, there’s Mr Peterson house but it was abandoned
It is?
Thats not the neighbors house
it is
The front house looks the same as act 1 house but the inside was different
who would build a house that is exactly like the house of a wanted man
Why would they move the house for hn2
wdym
And then move it back for act3
the house is in the same place
they most def not made a model for it yet because its not important right now
in HN 1 neighbor did not have a family until final game
he also did not have his current shoe texture until alpha 3 or something
Like the cardboard aaron and mya
huh
Bruh but he had shoes
Aaron and Mya were not in the alphas
In the full game
im talking about the alphas
You talking about Nickys dream about what’s going on to Mr Peterson
U cant see his family until the patch
HN 2 is only 2 alphas in
nicky himself did not even exist in alpha 1 of HN 1
Technically 1 and a half
yea
In front of the neighbours house
Anyway
Prototype to alpha 1 is different character
they've had lots of time
Now i talked about this before
tfw its been in development since Aug. 2018
But in the diary theres a mailbox with a 120
And then the car has a 119
Also hn2
huh
Its a countdown?
It’s a date most likely
So
January 19 idk
We’ll see
And the 120 on the mailbox?
That’s just a number
can we instead talk lore and not if alpha 2 of HN 2 is coming out on January 19th
also yes it could just be a number
What i like is a concept art
Of a street
And the houses numbers r 67
68
And it stops there XD
Anyway
Do we know anything about hn2 alpha 2?
mayak might play a bigger part
Yes
we know that in future versions (most likely just the final version) other HN characters will be returning
Oh god i just realized
So in hn2 alpha 1
The ending is with a guest costume
With eyez
Yes
the worst HN 2 version
And cardboard beack
Then alpha 1.5
You talking about 3 kids got kidnapped
Starts with a kid wearing that exact costume
yes
also HN 2 A1s ending is a simpler version of HN 2 A1.5s ending
The interesting part is the kid getting closer when you dropped candy and the kid disappeared and the neighbor appeared and call help and start bashing the door
Hello guest ends with the man in the hat
Hn2 alpha 1 doesnt start with the man in the hat
But its in the game
The man in the hat appeared right next to mr Peterson, standing the street light by the end of alpha 1
We don’t know his name but people think his name is smith
Also why is there a propeller hat
Why tho?
right so in HN 2 A1 the guest kid costume is in the same place where you see guest kid in HN 2 alpha 1.5
also in alpha 1.5s ending it asks you how is your weather and in alpha 1 the weather is not very good so basically i think alpha 1s ending is a tease/earlier version of alpha 1.5s ending
Oh
At first i though it was to scare some random people
Who actually had a bad weather
The storm
In the exact moment they ended
That would be crazy
Now i havent read the last book
(Or any other book)
But what is it about?
idk
Oof
i only read book 1
Maybe i buy one
Idk, i heard its hard
Specially if u r spanish
Oh and the guest is
Forget about the latest
The guest is like a guard
Of the golden apple amusmemt park
Kinda, he just walking around scaring Quentin and Beatrix
Probably let the man with mask destroy the park
Oof
Ok now one last question
And ill go to sleep
Is the rocket event still aviable?
Can u do it rn?
You still can on SN
Oh for me maybe later
Goose is Guest
this game just got really bad why did they remove the neighbor like they better have something incredible up their sleeves
Neighbor is prolly the bird man anyway
yea like Peterson now its a bird thing?
Maybe he has the suit, but is not the Guest, bcz we can see them at the same time in the alpha 1 intro
hello
the guest is the neighbor from a different timeline or some crap like that
I dont think theres any time travel
ohhhhh
Well
Dont even try to
you would be wrong about that
Let's just order this up
The lore is hard enough
Well
Oh cmon
yea but timeline do exist
I'm going to do it
In HG Peterson is Guest but in HN2 Peterson isn't
Now let's discuss about HGA2
oh boy
Oh cr
guest is peterson
yeah, absolutely nothiiiiiing to do with time now
a lot of talking and lore discussion and how the Alpha would play out intensifies
||totaaaally not like Norman Darby knows the future||
||Norman Darby||
Norman uses a device
journalist from the 60s
Not time lines
ohh
And he is dead
a character from the books righta?
||and my theory is he uses it to look into the future||
Yes
wow
Norman isn't dead
._.
||Ike is dead||
He is also dead
i remember when people called Quentin Ike
||Ike is dead and Norman dunno||
||People think Norman's dead but in book 6 he's alive||
||The truth is that Ike's full name is Ike Quentin Cornelius Gershowitz||
Wait wait wait
They screw with the lore yes, but book 4 also technically screwed with the lore as well, it just didn't have as much, still worth a read
Yeah
||Ike's full name*||
Ted and Ike were childhood friends
Ike knew Ted and Ted knew Ike
Ohhh yeah now i remember
They got into an argument and Ike was never seen again
Then aaron talks with ike
remember when people thought Ike was Guest
argument actually
replying to this
Yeah
I feel like every hour here is harder than school
This is better than school
What
Me when I get a new render idea be like
Oh
would we talk in spoilers
60 worked
during the events of book 5
Ok
because you seem to be talking about a lot of spoilers (considering that your spoiler tagging everything)
Me when I have new blender render idea of recreating Peterson peaking from the building
Also there were 2 guys, a boss and his employee, and the employee had nightmares with his boss
what
U really love theese pics right?
I sure do
you probably mean Norman and Cleave
Norman was any of them?
Oh
Okok
So
Norman is the employee
And
He worked as a guard
I think
Or
Watch this man commit talking to himself
Darby
Ye
The hg quentin
Then
We have ike hershowitz
Who went missing in the 90'
And was a guard of mayak
And then norman's boss is cleave
Hershowitz
Gordon Cleave
Ok
Forest Protector
Gordon Cleave is a Forest Protector
Ye
His employee works for the tv
So he has a relation with ike?
Bcz the mayak is in the forest i think
reporter
||And the Forest Protectors are a cult of human people, not crowman||
Yeah thats obvius
Ike was a guard of Mayak or the weather station
Norman was a reporter
And Cleave was a detective
We have speculations that The Man In The Hat is Gordon Cleave, and Quentin is Norman Darby
Probably not
GuestNeighbor isn't a thing in HN2
But he was in HG
I mean u
Oh
Like u told me something different
Is this right?
Yeah
Yes
ZPEFM honestly know more about the book lore than me lmao
Cleave was norman's boss, detective and also forest protecter
yes
Cleave is a 10 nation army powered man lmao
Yeah
Cus that's his nickname: Sombrero Man In The Hat
hamborgor
Aka Smith
That's not the real nickname for the lore
And the sombrero?
That's just a fun nickname that the community gave it to him
Ok
Cus the hat
Yeah i know what it means im spanish
It looks like a Sombrero
Yeah
._.
Also his eyes r always closed
But
No
He has the guest costume
GuestNeighbor isn't a thing in HN2
Oh yeah the time travel
Only in HG
There's no time travel
Yeah but u said something about time travel
I did not
And then explained me the guest neighbor
Anyway
He isnt
He just has a costume
Now the real guest and cleave r fp
I just said that HG and HN2 are 2 different timelines
And timelines aren't time travel
Do we know any other fp
ok
Now I gotta sleep, cus it's fricking 3am here in Europe
ok
Really?
4:23 here
Really?
I trust him
it is
So ted and cleave
Oh that's cool
Any other one?
Or any proof that there r more fp
different timeline ted
Oh cmon not the time lines again
Hm...
So the guest
also he is most likely just has the costume
No
Bruh
...
How do u know
Thats what i said
Even in the trailers
Its him from a different timeline
||Cleave Dale and presumably another officer called Harold are really all we know of, Chet I don't think, Keith I'm unsure of, and anyone else I'm unsure of||
i said that like 4847 times
||Oh yeah the Mayor is also a FP||
Tf
Name?
Marvin Tavish
||The fricking mayor is a FP||
Sounds familiar
Ok so in the hn2 timeline
Ted, cleave, marvin and probably harold
So Ted is a fp
do you have to be a fp to have a suit
To have a good one
So there's 3 neighbors, Fake Neighbor, Neighbor_For_Trailer and if we put the Guest's suit on it will turn into GuestNeighbor, and Neighbor aka the Buff Neighbor (the one that you see at the keyart and endings)
guest neighbor is either fn or nft
Nft is GN
i dont think he is a separate entity
yea
Yeah
What fake neighbor
._.
Welcome to another episode of:
What the heck is going on®
Oh the secretending neighbor
Yeah
its not a secret ending
It's a unused ending
Yeah but theres a mod
Yeah but there's a amod sjajsbsbs
the person that made that mod thought it was a secret ending
And the command for watching the scene is secretending
Shut
Oh
he thought it was a secret ending
yes
Why
we dont know
Kokosko aka the guy that made the mod called it the secret ending where it was just an unused ending that would trigger when you entered the attic
the unused ending is not cannon because it is unused
Oh
Yeah
also i dont think hes man in the hat
But it has to mean something
So FN isn't really a thing
yea
nope
it was a scrapped ending
But he is a thing in the game files but not in the lore
Next question
Why rnt quentin and man in the hat friends
i think he has miths face because its the most low poly face they could find because you could not see his face through the mask
Ok
Neighbor For Trailer aka GuestNeighbor aka my pfp, and we have Neighbor aka Neighbor Root motion aka Buff Neighbor whatever
wdym lol
Like, one goes for the tv, the another one goes to investigate for the newspaper
It was just a test
honestly im starting to not care about the lore
I don't get why Nikita doesn't consider act 3 a dream when it's basically described as a dream or nightmare
What
Like okay I get it's him overcoming fear
She doesnt?
She?
He
But like he's doing it whilst he's asleep
its act 1 but trauma
I'm actually starting to get into more fo the HGA2 and GuestNeighbor stuff and HN2/HG unused and scrapped stuff
Nikita sounds like a girl
its not a dream
Sorry
nothing in HN is a dream
Boi I was wrong
its confirmed
Anyway
its not
Him overcoming fear
Yeah i mean
its act 1
act 3 is legit act 1 but trauma
Act 3 isn't real
The only real thing in game is when u move back to ur home
Act 3 is like him overcoming trauma
yeah im sure the dude that came up with HN does not know the lore yes sure
I didn't say that
I said the way he's perceiving it by saying nothing in HN is a dream is him being like
can we get someone to explain to this person what act 3 is
its not a dream
Yeah its a dream to overcome his fears
I'm talking about the way Nikita says it
Y are we back to hn1
because
And I need to go to sleep to bye
this person thinks act 3 is only a dream
Nikita says it's not a dream which makes sense. But everything that happens in it him overcoming trauma still happens whilst he's asleep
What no. I didn't say it was just a dream
Thats why u get stronger by overcoming fears, like fear to the darkness
So I'm confused what Nikita means by it. Because okay it's a not a dream but him overcoming his fear is happening in a dream like way
So I'm not quite sure what he means
Ohh nikita is also that guy from sn tips
No that's Mad Eye Yokai
What
His names Adam
Oh
Nikita is the guy that came up with HN
Alex is not a dev
I know
then why did you call him a developer
Ups i did
He's still involved
anyways
what
oh
Who do you think it is
new character
Hm
Idk man
Evidence is there
Also with the whole
Darby being Quentin
It's very much possible
uh quentin is a new character
how old would Darby be
Darby is in his 50s
he does not look 50 or sound 50
Why don't you think cleave is mith
wait if darby is in his 50s in book 6 then darby would be like in his 60s in HN 2
Hn2 is 20 years later?
HN 2 has to be in the 2000s
"hello neighbor 2 is right after the first game"
So maybe its in 1997-1999
nah
not right after
it has to be way later
probably yeah
Well
Prolly like 2 years after
Alex Goota learn some English
So around 1999 or 2000
HN 2 is a midquel
Ironic
Cus he doesn't understand it
either way Darby would be in his 50s - 60s then
Yeah, pls don't kill me
I still dont think thats him, and we can say the same of Cleave
Why don't you think cleave mith 🤔
also even if there was a hurricane or some crap like that there would still have to be like 10 years for the rest of the town to rot or whatever
Who went missing in the 90', ike hershowitz or norman darby?
Ike
||Went into exile||
i think the guesst kidnapped the kid for so long he grew up to be the neighbor
no.
theres several things wrong with that theory @tribal talon
the neighbor went missing when he was already an adult
Who do you guys think reset day will be based on
new character
Quentin
wher e neibor
Quent
im creeped out know how do u know my name?!?!?!?
we dont
we were talking about a game character
Lets get started on our trial. first sign in to elite.org then scroll down to the top. then move over to the right and the window should be there now click on my elite face that saids elite
What
RIP HG alpha 2 and GuestNeighbor
Im reading Puzzle Master, someone know what “its not her” or who it means?
Mya
That's literally the prologue-
I hadnt got the book so far
And even this is spoilers for me (yes. There is something wrong with me)
U can read the first 3 chapters free online
hey, i know the whole story of hello neighbor!
never mind
Okay after reading book 6
I have to say
Book 5 of Hn is the best book in the entire trilogy and series
Ok
I like book 1 and 6 the best
book 5 is rlly good
++++++++
I like book 3 very much
do you think that nicky is the guy in hello guest because they both have the same watch???????
no
because his name is quentin
and hes not a teenager
and he barely looks like nicky
yeah no
i never realized how huge nickys head is
lol
Mya ready to report
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that is true the neighbor is not the guest
Hmmm
Why do you think so
Because neighbor being the guest doesn't make sense. The only possible way of the neighbor being the guest is NFT, who was used in the announcement trailer and in a1. Plus nft has shorter arms than the guest, and his head doesn't fit in the guest suit. If you play hn2a1.5 you can notice that the guest doesn't behave like a human at all, and he does those kra noises, you may say: the kra noises are making by some sort of machine, that is impossible, the neighbor cant hide and activate a machine that makes different noises
Actually, Guest is MITH and MITH is Aaron and Aaron is Nicky and Nicky is Cleave and Cleave is Maritza and Maritza is-
no way maritza is maritza is brave? wow i didn't know that
No Maritza is The cop and The cop is Enzo and Enzo is Imbir and Imbir is Tinyfox and Tinyfix is Vido and Vido is Alex and Alex is Nikita and Nikita is Classic and Classic is Devil and Devil is Genix and Genix is Baka and Baka is Krahen and Krahen is Sheeprampage and Sheeprampage is Fredzart and Fredzart is Pre Alpha Man and Pre alpha Man is Theodore and Theodore is Diane and Diane is Norman Darby and Norman Darby is the Other Cop and The Other Cop is actually The Major and the Major is actually Detective Dale and Detective Dale is Aaron so Aaron and Aaron is Me so I'm Guest
No imbir is tinyfox and tinyfox is diane and diane is theodore
Ok let me add that
Ok I added it
Actually, Guest is MITH and MITH is Aaron and Aaron is Nicky and Nicky is Cleave and Cleave is Maritza and Maritza is The cop and The cop is Enzo and Enzo is Imbir and Imbir is Tinyfox and Tinyfix is Vido and Vido is Alex and Alex is Nikita and Nikita is Classic and Classic is Devil and Devil is Genix and Genix is Baka and Baka is Krahen and Krahen is Sheeprampage and Sheeprampage is Fredzart and Fredzart is Pre Alpha Man and Pre alpha Man is Theodore and Theodore is Diane and Diane is Norman Darby and Norman Darby is the Other Cop and The Other Cop is actually The Major and the Major is actually Detective Dale and Detective Dale is Aaron and Aaron is Me so I'm Guest
making me dizzy
teasers
Alex: literally showing in-game pics and video with Neighbor in Guest's costume.
Community: nah, that's obviously fake and doesn't make sense.
we dont think its fake
the videos confirm he isnt the guest though. I mean look at those proportions
way different :/
why does it even matter until the game comes out honestly, Kinda old having this debate every day ngl
then dont participate
it's disappointing checking the chat and it's literally the same thing all the time tho
but true i guess
its not the same every time. we have t hese conversations like, once or twice a week?
But you know
Not everything can happening in reality
and not everything can be in same time
I would think the guest is a creature but the books imply forest protectors are just a thing and not actually crow people
The teasers work but I don't think they should be the only evidence considering they're old and stuff could have changed
Probably still could
Yeah but shouldn't be the only evidence Imo
Don't just consider stuff more relevant if it supports your theory
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Ah yes, alex is gonna spoil the answer of one of the biggest questions of this game, because, you know, alex always does that
exactly
"one of the biggest questions of this game"
why it's biggest question
I said one

ok you won
i am felling sarcasm
he would...oh wait
Its alex, the guy who like to be "mysterious" with this franchise
Or hes trying but whatever
I do not think of it as fake, he is also neighbor
uh i thought you said to nft
ok
Im just saying its not like Alex to do that
He doesn't just leak critical stuff like that so fast
he does
he leaked an entire folder full of concept art once too
ok
lore
HN 2 is in the 2000s and not right after act 2
there has to at least be some years in between act 2 and HN 2
Quentin uses an RTX 3090 in Alpha 1.5
Yeah like 1 or 2
So we know that
Act 2 is in 1996
i would say maybe 5 years after act 2
After act 2 but before act 3
ye
act 3 is 2015 but hn2 is closer to act 2
yes
i would say 2001
I’d say 1997
to close to act 2
even if there was some hurricane or something i doubt it would look that run down in 1997
close enough for quentin to start to do a missing case on a guy who disappears after act 2
I'm pretty sure we can tell when act 1-3 takes place
If everything is cannon Ground Braking day happened it there for cannon
Milk if that even changes
But hn2 has a park, and it’s after act 2
Milk is un trust worthy
Exactly so not everything cannon
Its either that or just serious plotholes
the timelines thing does kinda excuse plot holes and stuff
You see what I mean if everything is cannon like you are saying Ground braking happened there for cannon park should not be there but since it is it can not be cannon so not everything is cannon
Omega will destroy you even though you’re a member there
How dare you share a “private” message from a public server!!!
Omega is stupid
no i mean you’re still a member there
who cares
frantically checks mutual servers
Welp time for an admin to yell at me there
ok
No because myak is what you get when you do the ritual messing with the luck cosing it to weather to go crazy that does not make everything cannon
what
what
what
Yeah hes the guy who literally started the game
Did you read book 6 it literally explained this
did you read the HE website and watch the trailer no you did not
Sorry maybe I'm waiting for book 4-6
Because maybe it takes so long for the books to arrive
||also the weather causes the rituals, not the other way around||
||they use the device in rituals when the weather gets bad||
No once ritual done it makes the weather go crazy because it messes up the balance
Camp
Just listen to the devs and the websites
Everything is canon because of Mayak
||book 6 literally explains that they do the rituals BECAUSE of the storms||
HE takes place in the GAAP
So it makes th weather worse
No
Do they try to stop the storms from happening?
Please
||the weather being bad causes the rituals to even happen||
I literally just. Read it
Norman said it the weather teacher said it the gets worse because they messed with the balance taking the luck and nature dos not like it when it is messed with that it goes crazy
what
the
is that a spoiler
Pretty sure it is
they literally said ||the storms cause the rituals||
Like straight forward
Just said that
please spoiler tag or whatever @wild ore if its a spoiler
Also remember this is all canon because of a building in both a game and irl
Yep thanks to this
That was just inspiration
Ok they start with a normal storm but they do the ritual cossing the balance to brake making the normal storm worse turning it into myak

