Old town
#lore-discussion
winged knoll
It takes place in old town raven brooks
It's from the books / show and what we know about it is that this very close to the park and is in mostly ruins
winged knoll
well lets take landmarks into thoughts about where it takes place.. in hg you see quintin and beatrix drive past the gas station.. that gas station is north of the neighbors house and past that gas station is the amusement park
heavy monolith
it could be anywhere
winged knoll
ontop of the mountain thats in the park is myak and that one spinning rocket ride the same ride that you can see if you climb the moutain in HN2 so its on the other side of the moutain
heavy monolith
it looks old because a huge storm hit after act 2
winged knoll
a strom wouldint change a towns entire layout and change the general area
and another thing if a strom did hit the town and destroyed most of it where is nickys house
as nickys house is still standing in act 3
but it aint there in hn2
which takes place between act 2 and 3
heavy monolith
if its the same place, then the map is unfinished
its still in alpha state
reminder
but if its in a new spot
that probably wont even be the final look of the house
why would there be 2 act 1 houses
winged knoll
if you are talking about how the house changed from 1 to 1.5 its most likely that they changed it due to feedback by the community
but really untill they ''add'' nickys house it doesint take place in freindlycourt it takes place in old town
tribal talon
Theory
Guest took the phrase "Moving your house" literally and rented a crane and dropped the house in old town
cerulean onyx
Well, yes, but actually no
heavy monolith
not really
heavy monolith
because it hardly makes sense
sweet adder
I mean it’s HN lol
cerulean onyx
We already know that Guest is just a furry smh my head 
sweet adder
We don’t know the time frame between HN1 and HN2. We don’t know if Aaron is dead
Maybe he’s just an excited furry
That’s hype
cerulean onyx
heavy monolith
all we know about the time frame is between act 2 and act 3
heavy monolith
death
cerulean onyx
death
storm salmon
death
vast ridge
Well find out when HN2 drops (or not lol)
azure cliff
WRONG CHAT
cerulean onyx
True
sweet adder
I posted this in other chat but super annoyed the hospital cut scenes weren’t in final game. Like why leave em out
cerulean onyx
Videogames
sweet adder
Profound sadness
gray dome
I mean it’s HN lol
a weird frickin series
versed yacht
Imagine a cutscene where Quentin is tied up or something, and the Guest walks up, pulls down his mask to reveal Aaron and says "OwO", then he throws Quen into the fire
wicked heath
NO
tribal talon
Oooooo
cerulean onyx
Theodore walks up to Quentin
Wake up Samurai, we have a neighborhood to burn
gray dome
And
spring depot
lol lol lol
agile hare
and this is Quentin
they have the same artstyle
the same mustache
the same type of hair
the same size of head and chin
gray dome
oh how I wish book 6 was out
agile hare
yeah
shadow summit
the same size of head and chin
and what is ur point?
(Book 6 Spoilers) ||I mean, Quentin IS Ike||
like, serious spoilers
agile hare
yeah
gray dome
Too early
agile hare
||Ike Quentin Cornelius Gershowitz||
agile hare
major spoiler
shadow summit
Lel
gray dome
Its not even out yet-
shadow summit
but if u want me to, i'll delete the message
and never talk about book 6 ever again
gray dome
Well ur allowed obviously but i mean the book isn't even out-
cerulean onyx
Lore discussion
agile hare
||Quentin aka Ike lel, knows about Mayak, and has heart problems, that's why in HG we need eet so we don't pass out, and Ike has heart problems, so yeah, Quentin is confirmed to be Ike||
also
another Book 6 spoiler
gray dome
Yes, Ike was originally a security guard
gray dome
At Mayak
gray dome
another Book 6 spoiler
also that's my pic-
vernal kraken
why did they try and tell us for a year They're different lmao
agile hare
~~also that's my pic-~~
thanks
agile hare
why did they try and tell us for a year They're different lmao
cus welp
it would be the most lore breaking thingy
shadow summit
||Also, both Quentin AND Ike were journalists||
vernal kraken
oh because he was missing in book 4
agile hare
the game just released and players are already calling Quentin as Ike
gray dome
||Ike wasn't racc, as far as I remember||
agile hare
||Also, both Quentin AND Ike were journalists||
||and security guard at GAMP||
gray dome
Mayak*
shadow summit
||Well they both had journalist clothing so-||
gray dome
That's not a spoiler btw
vernal kraken
so ||Ike went into a coma, was assumed missing/dead, woke up and started calling himself Quentin? lol||
agile hare
||yep, i think so||
gray dome
we can't trust EGS and Alex
I never did trust Alex lol-
shadow summit
also
vernal kraken
trapped on an island with a hundred neighbors when
gray dome
Racc that's not a spoiler reee-
shadow summit
I'm trying to show that ||Ike|| and ||Quentin are the same person ||
gray dome
so ||Ike went into a coma, was assumed missing/dead, woke up and started calling...
Id say a spoiler rn but I can't
vernal kraken
hearing that just makes me think of nore possibilities ngl lol
shadow summit
Alright you can diss me for this but-
||Beatrix - Casey Clarke||
||Quentin - Ike Gershowitz||
||Smith - Gordon Cleave||
agile hare
k
vernal kraken
tbh they're reasonable assumptions
gray dome
Racc
N o
shadow summit
||Beatrix and Casey have the same frickin hair, same everything||
agile hare
I don't think that Beatrix is Casey
shadow summit
ok i should stop spoiler tagging
gray dome
The Casey one makes me wanna scream
gray dome
Who even made the theory
vernal kraken
the face is different nvm
agile hare
yeah
vernal kraken
still different tbh
shadow summit
oh welp
vernal kraken
face length
shadow summit
lets see in full release
agile hare
and she has a eye-palm
shadow summit
which is either October 2021 or November 9th
agile hare
yeah
it's a year ahead of us ma guy
it's not that far
also, here's a render of Beatrix from Nikita
wanton drum
was that render made after hga1
versed yacht
She is wearing a dress similar to Diane's
tribal talon
so she's Diane
versed yacht
yes
tribal talon
good
versed yacht
Diane cheats on Mr. Peterson with Quentin 😳
vernal kraken
doesn't look anything like Dianne though
versed yacht
Yeah
main idol
Diane cheats on Mr. Peterson with Quentin 😳
No He Cheats with Beatrix
tribal talon
She probably looks like that when shes not at work
icy zenith
Alright you can diss me for this but-
||Beatrix - Casey Clarke||
||Quentin - Ike...
Casey isn't even important
tribal talon
||Isnt ike dead||
||Yes, he is||
||that one, Ike Quentin||
||so he isn't Quentin then||
||as you can see||
||Unless Quentin pulled a michael afton||
gray dome
||Isnt ike dead||
||body found in factory||
tribal talon
Ike no
I have a theory
||Carly did something funny with Ike's name so everyone thought that Quentin in hn2/hg is Ike||
||and not just name, as we know||
Quentin is a clone of Ike for the upcoming Raven Brooks Clone Wars against Darth Imbirus and General Guest
tribal talon
|| yes, so the: "ike is the book version of Quentin" its wrong||
||muhahhahaha i knew it||
lemme ping thunder
Yo @icy zenith
read the messages
|| you were wrong ||
cerulean onyx
Videogames
serene bloom
neighbor drinks the chalice
icy zenith
|| yes, so the: "ike is the book version of Quentin" its wrong||
How is it wrong?
gray dome
||Ike's dead Thund3r||
icy zenith
||That's actually quite interesting though. Perhaps if he went to guest world or maybe hn2 is just Ike's purgatory||
gray dome
||his body was found in the golden apple factory||
copper wave
||at this point Quentin is probably Norman using a false name as to not be found out||
||i mean hes literally supposed to be dead after all||
||then again this could be another situation of a character looking just like another and having the same job||
gray dome
||I thought Norman's death was a rumor||
copper wave
||even if it was a rumor imagine showing up 30 years after his "death" and just going up to the people who thought he died, especially literal murderers||
||this also gives quentin a more personal motive to be investigating these disappearances||
||and now im really curious if Nicky plays a role in HN2, as Normans last message to aaron is to "trust Narf"||
||but how does Norman know that Aarons going to be locked in the basement, or that Nicky even moves in?||
gray dome
||the Roths haven't even moved in yet in book 6 but yet are referenced several times||
icy zenith
oh god so tempting
God I need this book
i might spoil this book for myself idk+
I just had a brain wave
gray dome
yes u do
icy zenith
After all the evidence
I think
Darby Master
I think Darby will show up book 6
And Cleave will be like
You're alive?!?! I killed you
This would be false
But idk didn't he die
gray dome
||this book is just confusing||
copper wave
||i need to reread it later so i can really dig into it||
copper wave
||the luck balance stuff makes sense to me||
icy zenith
Cleave death/dispensary
The device may work as like
It allows you to omen things
Just a theory
copper wave
||though i do wish the device was more of a "you can do whatever you want with it" and not just effect luck||
icy zenith
Like the device does bad things to others
and acts like a curse
and in return it gives you good stuff
or it just curses others
I doubt thats what its gonna do
The curse theory is stupid
Definitely won't happen
gray dome
||Thund3r are u looking at these tags||
gray dome
||ill take that as a no; well whatever it is Norman somehow knows the Roth family already||
||he also somehow knows the future||
wicked heath
Its not a spoiler. Do you trust me? Then click > ||Thank you ^-^......||
vernal kraken
bruh did yall say ||trust narf was seriously a message given to aaron? :/ that's.... uh....||
||idk anymore lol||
icy zenith
what if the device creates timelines
vernal kraken
oh no
icy zenith
and allows you to create different futures
gray dome
the new book is out?
well yes but actually no
gray dome
bruh did yall say ||trust narf was seriously a message given to aaron? :/ that's...
yeah
copper wave
||its like a picture at the end of the book with 4 messages that he gave aaron||
||i dont have the book on me rn but one has to do with being underground and that the Red Key is the way out or something||
icy zenith
Jrb Can i see these spoilers
copper wave
no
icy zenith
Do they reveal any spoilers
gray dome
yeah unless u wanna be spoiled
vernal kraken
||random psychic go brr||
tribal talon
Excuse me but.. how the HELL did you guys get the book this early
wicked heath
I want to KNOW
vernal kraken
I think only ZPEFM and Classic have actually gotten the book
tribal talon
VIP people
tribal talon
Would target have it
copper wave
probably
tribal talon
Hmmm
icy zenith
Excuse me but.. how the HELL did you guys get the book this early
Killed a man, you?
tribal talon
Killed a man, you?
Bro I-
echo bane
what
agile hare
I think everyone devived to 4 or 6 knows that ||Ike is Quentin||
echo bane
who is dat lol
echo bane
he's Quentin he's Quentin!
agile hare
Aka the friend of Peterson (the neighbor) that works as a security guard at the Golden Apple Amusement Park, and is also a Journalist, Ike aka Quentin has heart problems and that's why in Hello Guest he needs eet, inhalers and medical pills to not pass out and have hallucinations, Ike's aka Quentin's full name is ||Ike Quentin Cornelius Gershowitz||
heavy monolith
Aka the friend of Peterson (the neighbor) that works as a security guard at the ...
Yeah but ||hes dead in book 6||
heavy monolith
Yeah, ||he un-died obviously||
agile hare
||And if Quentin doesn't die in HN2 it speaks to itself that the books are another timeline||
echo bane
||how did he die?||
heavy monolith
We dunno
copper wave
||he died by dying to death||
echo bane
||maybe he survived it or something..?||
agile hare
||probably heart attack then he went to a medical emergency and came back, dunno really||
heavy monolith
||Me who knows quentin is possibly not ike because of a conversation in dms with classic||
copper wave
agile hare
But Quentin is Ike
heavy monolith
Demote classic for sending off topic gifs
copper wave
Demote classic for sending off topic gifs
it was in response to what you said 😔
agile hare
Sad
echo bane
||maybe Quentin's heart stopped and then started working again, that happens irl||
agile hare
||maybe Quentin's heart stopped and then started working again, that happens irl...
||yeah, that could happened||
heavy monolith
||whos quentin, dont you mean norman darby||
agile hare
||lol, why we using spoiler tag for everything we speak||
heavy monolith
Cuz book 6 doesnt exist yet
agile hare
Book 6 will exist
heavy monolith
It comes out the 29th
echo bane
4 days until the party
heavy monolith
I already know everything
agile hare
||And if Quentin really dies in book 6, maybe the books will be another timeline, dunno||
echo bane
rip i can't get the books bc corona
agile hare
K
heavy monolith
||quentin isnt ike||
agile hare
He is
copper wave
||not*||
echo bane
||Quentin*||
agile hare
Let me just
echo bane
finished it 
copper wave
spoiler tag images from book 6 please
echo bane
i still believe he is Quen Quen
agile hare
Dunno how to spoil tag images with le phone so it's sad
copper wave
||ive read book 6 and im telling you, ike is not quentin||
echo bane
?
agile hare
Aisjjajsis
heavy monolith
the name means nothing
copper wave
you cant spoil tag images on mobile
echo bane
go to google then go to discord log in and then spolier tag the pic
agile hare
Lol
echo bane
Theodore Aaron Peterson
heavy monolith
||according to my 100 percent correct and never wrong dms with classic, quentins probably norman darby||
heavy monolith
book 5 and 6 character
agile hare
||But Quentin and Ike look exactly the same||
copper wave
||So do Quentin and Darby||
heavy monolith
||so do nicky and theodore||
agile hare
Hmmmm
echo bane
||so do nicky and theodore||
wut
agile hare
Tinybuild fricking the lore conectors' mind
agile hare
Forties*
heavy monolith
You said the exact same thing
copper wave
thats what he said lol
echo bane
lmao
agile hare
Funni word
heavy monolith
While quen looks mid quenties
echo bane
GiantBuild is making the story much difficult to tell or stuff you know what i mean
agile hare
||Smith - Gordon Clever
Peterson - Peterson (xD)
The Guest - dunno man
Quentin - just a ded boi
Beatrix - Beatrix?
Imbir - Imbir||
echo bane
imbir is guest
heavy monolith
||quentin - norman darby||
echo bane
quentin is not real
heavy monolith
Uhm who said || trust narf||
||norman darby||
||aka puzzle master aka possible quentin||
tribal talon
Oh
Ok
So eres ma stoopid thery: || what if "trust narf" its not necessarily a message for aaron, but instead for enzo, trinity and maritza, cuz ya know book 3 ||
sick adder
||пармпмап||
tribal talon
So eres ma stoopid thery: || what if "trust narf" its not necessarily a message ...
||This is the first thing i had in mind when i heard: trust narf ||
echo bane
what drawing?
heavy monolith
||Norman|| could have put the drawing under Nicky's seat in Fearschool
No that was still aaron
versed yacht
In book 3 when they go on fear school Nicky finds a drawing and assumes it's from Aaron or something, which leads to the whole Nicky and Martitza thing
versed yacht
I don't remember exactly what it was I just know they find it in Fearschool
echo bane
probably a pic of mari :/
versed yacht
I think it was like a tree or something
echo bane
is the pic like in the book the drawing
gray dome
But ||we dont know who||
||most likely Cleave||
versed yacht
But Quentin is Ike
Carly pulled a Scott Cawthon on us
He isn't, but they have the same name
echo bane
maybe they're brothers?
versed yacht
Maybe
winged knoll
what if imbir is arron
wind kelp
May be
patent girder
:p
tribal talon
Remove the glasses and there you go
tribal talon
also merry christmas
Merry Christmas!
Also, glen is from bosco bay
and he kinda looks like Enzo
tribal talon
@wicked heath here he is, he dresses like Enzo too except green.
He is the alternative graphic novel timeline enzo
tribal talon
He is the alternative graphic novel timeline enzo <:smile:614531508023066808>
Nooooooo I hate the timeline theory
good
cries
tribal talon
He is the alternative graphic novel timeline enzo <:smile:614531508023066808>
how a new theory is born
people are gonna belive this
nooooooo
in 2 days is gonna be a theory
people are gonna see it
plssss no
and make it a part of the timeline theory
begs for mercy
tribal talon
*plssss no*
this is how every evidence for timeline theory is made
nooooo
you can do nothing about it
cerulean onyx
guys so my theory is that the hello guest from hello neighbor 2 is enzo despacito from hello secret neighbor bceuz he walks like the ezno despozable from secret neck boar
tribal talon
Uhm
Omg that theory makes so much sense
Enzo despacito
Guest is Enzo despacito 😳
wicked heath
no
tribal talon
He is the alternative graphic novel timeline enzo <:smile:614531508023066808>
Also heres the explanation
Jsjsjsjjsjsjsjsksks
cerulean onyx
he is also the hello guest from hello neighbor 2 alpha 1.5 decimbir update
icy zenith
Nooooooo I hate the timeline theory
||The new book kind of introduces the concept of time travel which creates multiple timelines. But if time travel in hn works as a paradox then well.||
icy zenith
here he is, he dresses like Enzo too except green.
Maritza is in the book too. I think its just referencing
tribal talon
Ik
tribal talon
Wait pls don’t spoil
icy zenith
K
tribal talon
I haven’t read the new book
icy zenith
No its not spoiling that much
tribal talon
Where did you get the book anyway?
tribal talon
Oh
icy zenith
Well its more of a hypothesis
||Also if time travel in hn works as it does in Harry Potter then it would work like this. in the book when they decide to time travel, they go back in the past but the past doesn't change. So lets say if they idk burnt down a house, that house will always be burnt because that already happened in the past, they just don't know it was done by themselves in the future. Because there present self chose to time travel into the future which in then makes them the future version of themselves||
tribal talon
So confusing
icy zenith
Yes it is
tribal talon
Bro, this only makes more plot holes
icy zenith
Well yes and no
||If traveling back in the future doesn't change the past then its essentially a paradox. Because you are not changing the past and everything happens anyways||
||You're just relieving the time period||
tribal talon
Oh
tribal talon
It could have been a more simple story instead of all this other wackiness
icy zenith
||Time travel can be cool if they use it properly||
tribal talon
Until I read the new book, I’m not liking it so far
icy zenith
The book is good I've heard
but this is kind of the main revelation
Also the Puzzle Master is quite a big twist
tribal talon
I bet it’s an amazing book
icy zenith
if you don't fully understand hn
tribal talon
I do, I’ve read all the other books
tribal talon
It can literally be anyone who is an adult in Raven Brooks
icy zenith
Who do you actually think it is
tribal talon
Okay good
icy zenith
Its someone you won't except
tribal talon
Thanks for not spoiling
wicked heath
wat
wicked heath
*green Enzo*
ok. Thats the 3rd time u showed me this image 😅
tribal talon
xddddd
tribal talon
ok. Thats the 3rd time u showed me this image 😅
because Enzo is best character
wicked heath
ikr
tribal talon
I love his personality in the books, sarcastic, smart and just the absolute best
wicked heath
UwU
tribal talon
UwU
tribal talon
What if the neighbors final kid is the person in the basement in SN?
cerulean onyx
What
long shore
UwU
gleaming violet
imagine making a HN timeline
young light
(ok so I have a few questions for the developers of hello neighbor)
so I managed to use the graple to sling up to this part of the map and I was wondering if he will have something to do with the lore of the game
and you see
I managed to find the secret blue key
so I used it on that one door with the blue lock
and found this
so I was wondering if this will ever be used for something in the lore or something like that
so I would kinda like to see what it would be used for
its uh
storm salmon
there goes all the messages
paper shadow
#hello-neighbor <
young light
ah yeah I forgot sorry
storm salmon
imma head out of this channel
wicked heath
HN 1 model go brr
tribal talon
they using hn1 models as a placeholders haha
icy zenith
Jack da
tribal talon
Placeholders haha
hexed sierra
this is lore
tribal talon
Ik
hexed sierra
the lore: its Halloween and 3 kids are trick or treating. the man has gone insane from loneliness so he takes the children and "plays" with them. he doesn't know how friends work and that you don't force them to be your friend. he learns about this and keeps the children to make it so he doesn't go to jail and keeps you out also, so you cant put him to jail, and get real proof.
cerulean onyx
vernal kraken
i mean. Tbh that sounds like reasonable lore for hn
verbal dragon
He is a poor man.
tribal talon
Hell no he’s not. He’s pretty much a monster.
tropic dagger
hey
verbal dragon
Cuz you calling him a monster.
tribal talon
He is the reason why kids DIED on his rides. Also, he abused his family mentally and verbally.
Read the books
Wrong channel
verbal dragon
He is the reason why kids DIED on his rides. Also, he abused his family mentally...
Maybe a little.
But he was in depression.
tribal talon
Mya froze when she saw him, and even Diane was afraid of him at some point.
Depression doesn’t excuse abuse
verbal dragon
Aaron actually lost his mind.
tribal talon
He made Aaron feel like he deserved to be put in the basement
verbal dragon
Mom died, but why he abuse sister?
Yes.
Agree.
But Peterson doesn't deserve to be a monster.
tribal talon
He is a monster
verbal dragon
No.
tribal talon
think about the books, where mya literally flinched when he walked up to her, he chased her down a hallway until she started sobbing, and he convinced aaron everything was his fault. aaron thought he DESERVED to be in that basement. because of mr peterson
tribal talon
There are books that contain lore of the HN games
tribal talon
Okay
verbal dragon
I should torrent the hide n seek.
tribal talon
Aaron wasn't a monster
He was a grieving sibling who had nobody to vent to
Actually yeah, he was so mad and took out his anger on Mya and accidentally pushed her off.
I argue Peterson's not a monster
More like a man corrupted by grief and fear
He's foolish, and he knows
vernal kraken
he's basically just chaos.
tribal talon
He is insane, but he’s still evil.
vernal kraken
imo
tribal talon
Aaron 
verbal dragon
Peterson builded a danger roof.
tribal talon
Although the aaron being his omen thing is a big plothole
Omen
Stop trying to make Mr. Peterson innocent, I’m sick of it. He ISN’T a good person. Case closed.
tribal talon
Why? We just met
verbal dragon
And really.
tribal talon
Since a lot of his rides caused casualties BEFORE Aaron was conceived
tribal talon
Stop trying to make Mr. Peterson innocent, I’m sick of it. He ISN’T a good perso...
Nothing would happened if not that dude on the truck
Before that, he mentally and verbally abused his family,
verbal dragon
She wasn't like her brother. That's means there's something wrong with Aaron.
tribal talon
guest is peterson!!1!!1
tribal talon
Before that, he mentally and verbally abused his family,
Didn't saw anything this in hs
But that’s right Baka, you never read the books.
Why I should
Is aaron a sociopath
verbal dragon
Guest is Aaron.
tribal talon
Aaron isn’t really a monster, he took his anger too far though.
Just didn't controlled it
verbal dragon
So much English, I need to take a rest, good night.
tribal talon
Guest is Aaron.
verbal dragon
You made me laugh.
shadow summit
How to trigger everyone: Ted is a good person.
tribal talon
I did, and I say otherwise
I wasn’t talking to you 😳 yeah, still gotta read the book that hasn’t released yet.
gray dome
It's out in some places IRL
tribal talon
Not at my place
gray dome
But once you read it, some things will make more sense
tribal talon
Okay
gray dome
How to trigger everyone: Ted is a good person.
Technically the truth
shadow summit
I'm pretty sure he's just upset that he lost Diane and Mya
keen void
the neigbor is just some guy who dosent want intruders
versed yacht
Mr. Peterson tormented his own son blaming him for everything that went wrong instead of even trying to help him get over it
gray dome
Read book 6 and come back once it comes out
gray dome
oH In Bosco Bay
well
stilll
It seems that way in books 1-3
books 4-6 seem the opposite
Bosco is just kinda..there
and if theres timelines things are 10x more confusing
tribal talon
Bro, don’t justify Mr. Peterson’s actions. He’s a bad person.
vernal kraken
exactly. Just because you do some things that are good once in awhile doesn't change tha bad you've done
heavy monolith
Stop trying to make Mr. Peterson innocent, I’m sick of it. He ISN’T a good perso...
but he is
tribal talon
HOW
He literally put no safety features on his rides and kids DIED because of it. He threatened to hurt a kid in bosco bay. He also abuses Aaron mentally and verbally.
versed yacht
He PURPOSLY used a kid to test a ride that wasn't approved, and the kid died
heavy monolith
he put no safety features because they removed the fun in rides and he wanted it to feel like a ride.
cleave was the one who killed lucy
versed yacht
I'm talking about Bosco bay
gray dome
it was supposed to be Mya
versed yacht
With Jen's brother
heavy monolith
wait people actually bought bosco bay
versed yacht
Yeah
tribal talon
Only true fans would
versed yacht
And it was pretty good tbh
tribal talon
It had so many good moments
versed yacht
I thought it would suck but it didn't
heavy monolith
the reason i didnt get it is because i didnt feel like getting used to new characters
heavy monolith
i'd just like to have hn books with well known characters besides theodore
like carly's series
versed yacht
I agree
tribal talon
Agreed as well
heavy monolith
heck, if my instincts are correct, we already got a hn2 character (not man in the hat) in the books
versed yacht
But still I'd recommend Bosco Bay, it's a quick read and has some lore stuff
tribal talon
Yeah, it’s pretty good
versed yacht
heck, if my instincts are correct, we already got a hn2 character (not man in th...
Who?
heavy monolith
ill spoiler tag the images
versed yacht
Ight
heavy monolith
book 6 spoilers
wait
one of them had a nono word
gonna reupload it cropped brb
tribal talon
Bro there’s a swear word in book 6? 😂
heavy monolith
heavy monolith
Bro there’s a swear word in book 6? 😂
it was a discord screenshot of me explaining stuff
that is likely to be true
tribal talon
Oh lol
heavy monolith
||norman possibly being quentin||
versed yacht
I don't think ||he's Quentin|| although it's likely
heavy monolith
||i mean they literally have the same physical description and are both journalists/reporters who know about people in bird suits||
gray dome
There's also one other thing from book 6 I'd like to say that's a fairly big plot point
versed yacht
That was the same with Ike and Hello Guest
heavy monolith
There's also one other thing from book 6 I'd like to say that's a fairly big plo...
did you already tell me
heavy monolith
That was the same with Ike and Hello Guest
||ikes 2nd name is quentin, and ike knew norman, so norman probably took that name due to him being presumed dead||
heavy monolith
||also norman is probably a time traveler||
versed yacht
||with the ending and stuff||
heavy monolith
||and he knows about nicky and the red key 4 years before that stuff happens so||
versed yacht
It's likely
gray dome
||dont forget the device tho||
heavy monolith
||dont forget the device tho||
||which one ||
heavy monolith
||awww i thought they'd be like infinity stones||
versed yacht
||Well we know Mr. Peterson owns the device in part of the prequels and then Gordon steals it, then Mr. Peterson gets it back by HN1||
heavy monolith
||Well we know Mr. Peterson owns the device in part of the prequels and then Gor...
||i dont think he has it in hn1||
gray dome
||That device is really important btw||
versed yacht
||Well he has it in the Cartoon and presumably in SN which could just be the kids imagining it, which means they've seen it||
||Which makes sense cuz books and cartoon with Mari Enzo and Trin||
heavy monolith
||Well he has it in the Cartoon and presumably in SN which could just be the kid...
||nicky steals it in the cartoon and thats not even canon anyways||
yet
gray dome
why are we talking in spoiler tags
versed yacht
||that could explain why he has it in SN, and possibly makes some of SN canon||
gray dome
||awww i thought they'd be like infinity stones||
this is like the only spoilery msg
versed yacht
Ight
heavy monolith
||that could explain why he has it in SN, and possibly makes some of SN canon||
he doesnt in SN
SN is imagination
versed yacht
Yeah
But maybe
Some of it isn't
Like the houses aren't canon
But maybe them breaking in and the shape shifting
heavy monolith
the houses are imaginary
gray dome
||due to book 6 Nicky shouldn't even have the device||
heavy monolith
everything about the gameplay is imaginary
the only real thing is the lobby
and rocket event ending
versed yacht
And possibly map 4
heavy monolith
doubt
versed yacht
Map 4 tells what I think is the story of the start of HN2
heavy monolith
big greenhouse, no tool room, bookcase door, and extended basement
versed yacht
Nicky escapes, contacts the police then Mr. Peterson escapes, hence why his car isn't there, and the missing poster
And he takes Aaron
gray dome
SN is between Act 1 and 2-
gray dome
if the game says it is chances are it is
otherwise they have no real point of breaking in
heavy monolith
conspiracy: neighbor isnt real in act 2 and goes missing after act 1
ashen perch
What about that weather station?
gray dome
It was the place the Grandparents used to investigate Raven Brooks weird weather patterns
there are so many people into ||Quentin Norman|| and I'm just too into the devices
vernal minnow
Hello guest Will release on android?
main idol
Hello guest Will release on android?
Idk stop asking
normal delta
if the game says it is chances are it is
But they said that for the other maps? Map 4 could be dif
agile hare
oh god, so many spoiler tags
echo bane
oh god, so many spoiler tags
more like omg so many people asking when will hg release on android
joke
versed yacht
Ok so
Crows - Device - Mayak - Mr. Peterson - His Family - Gordon Cleave - Forest protectors - then back to crows
Then somewhere in there is Norman
tribal talon
Ike
gray dome
All very important
tribal talon
Neighbor
gray dome
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
versed yacht
Probably Mr. Peterson's parents
tribal talon
Neighbor
gray dome
Maybe the observatory
But I don't think the devices
||the devices are apparently Tavish property||
copper wave
||didnt norman or rita say that they were ancient technology that was discovered?||
tribal talon
so Neighbor
gray dome
||they're so old they might be ancient||
tribal talon
Neighbor is old enough
tribal talon
So neighbor created ||devices||, then moved in time using time machine and forgot about it
gray dome
||on a srs note I don't think so||
||but the tunnels the observatory and the devices are all connected||
copper wave
||if anyone is gonna be time traveling its norman||
||he somehow knows about everything thats going to happen||
gray dome
||well I doubt the devices are connected to that, Norman doesn't have one and he knows the future, so chances are it's something else||
copper wave
||he has the missing piece of Cleaves device, he could technically make his own with that piece||
gray dome
||no, Norman has the fake piece Aaron made, remember?||
||the real missing piece is buried within the collapsed tunnels when the place burnt down||
wanton drum
lore discussion made with 95% spoiler tags
copper wave
||no, Norman has the fake piece Aaron made, remember?||
||Aaron put the real piece of the device inside his fake device, he even said "it'd be safer with dad"||
||that means Norman, after finding the parts needed, can create a device||
gray dome
||I think it's still in the tunnels either way, or something, I thought he gave the wrong piece away||
copper wave
||he accidentally gave cleave the grandparents device, which is the one in the tunnels. theodore had the piece from cleaves original device in which he gave it to Norman||
||and norman saved Aaron from the tunnels, so he might have also grabbed the device from down there too||
tribal talon
nice
gray dome
||oh wait yeah he would've had to, Aaron used the real piece in his fake device||
heavy monolith
barcode chat
gray dome
||from my understanding it seems like Ted used the pieces from Ikes wallet to reconstruct the device, not the one Cleave stole||
copper wave
||Ted rebuilt the grandparents device, Aaron and Mya let cleave steal that one instead of the decoy that Aaron had made using the real piece||
||ted takes aarons decoy thinking it was the one in the basement and gives it to norman||
gray dome
||yeah which means he didn't use the original device from book 5 that Cleave stole, at least I don't think||
||we dont even know what happened to that one||
vernal kraken
👁️💀👁️ ||trying to figure out how we got here like---||
tribal talon
👄
crude dew
okay um
Later
tribal talon
icy zenith
||i mean they literally have the same physical description and are both journali...
That's literally where cleave Hat comes from lol
icy zenith
there are so many people into ||Quentin Norman|| and I'm just too into the devic...
I'm only interested in the device because I believe it's what ||Darby is using to time travel||
gray dome
||The only thing they've shown to be able to do so far is manipulate luck||
||If they were able to manipulate time there's a chance we'd already know||
||Plus, Norman couldn't've used the device during the events of books 4-6, maybe afterward tho if he even has one||
icy zenith
It may be like the infinity stones
Each one with its own purpose
Especially because there are ||multiple devices||
gray dome
||no pretty sure not, each one does the same thing||
||but so far we only know of 2 devices||
||the device in book 5 which Cleave used to kill Lucy, and the one with a while backstory in book 6||
||both were used to alter luck||
tribal talon
again black lines
gray dome
Yes
gray dome
||No he killed Lucy with it||
versed yacht
||If it alters luck then originally it would have been Mya and not Lucy||
I mean we know that, but did he?
gray dome
||Yeah but it was Lucy who eventually got in the front, leading to her death when Cleave used the device||
versed yacht
Yeah, but if he didn't then it would have been Mya
gray dome
||Chances are he's able to set things in stone before they even happen||
||oHHHH wAitT||
copper wave
||and since a piece of his device was missing, it most likely killed lucy instead of mya, which is why it turns hot in gordons hands and he feels pain||
gray dome
||If you're able to set things in stone before they even happen, then that could technically allow for you to see the future||
versed yacht
||Chances are he's able to set things in stone before they even happen||
||Well if he was able to set in stone that it would have been Lucy wouldn't that mean he knew it would have been Mya before?||
Also isn't Gordon's device ||a weather radar thing?||
gray dome
||It's both||
gray dome
||That merely tells them when to use the device, during the storms||
versed yacht
Ok so hear me out
gray dome
||Yeah he probably knew it was gonna be Mya||
||But it ended up being Lucy, I have no idea if that was his doing or not||
versed yacht
||Mr. Peterson's parents learned weather patterns, so they could do stuff with the device||
copper wave
||well if the device was broken it mightve misfired, or killed the wrong person||
gray dome
||Mr. Peterson's parents learned weather patterns, so they could do stuff with t...
||probably learned it from the device, I believe it might be able to manipulate weather but I'm unsure||
versed yacht
||One of the kids on the coaster is Mya, another is Maritza, and the last one is Lucy. Mya was meant to be in front, but Lucy was the one who actually went. Gordon was trying to possibly kill Mya, but the device doesn't work, so Lucy volunteers to go in front.||
gray dome
||Well it does work, but it was missing a piece, probably malfunctioned||
||or something||
versed yacht
||The device relates to storms, and is powered by them or something, which means it could relate to Mayak, which means it could relate to Mr. Peterson's parents||
gray dome
||One of the first devices were found by the Grandparents, I believe they used this one to investigate Raven Brooks weird weather patterns inside of the weather station||
versed yacht
Yeah, I haven't read the new book yet so I didn't know that
echo bane
who's gordon?
tribal talon
who's gordon?
||he killed lucy||
echo bane
||WTH he killed A LITTLE GIRL?!..||
wanton drum
gordon cleaveland
gray dome
Did u just call them friends
hexed sierra
ya know, all of the kids died in hello neighbor two: the two who died on the floor died of starvation and the 3rd one died because he got crushed by the neighbor
leaden belfry
Hello
tribal talon
hello
wicked heath
hello
gray dome
yes
icy zenith
Cleave isn't guest no
That was the original theory
But he's most likely the Man In The hat
gray dome
fyi #old-spoilers is back for the book
agile hare
SMITH fought Guest in HG
Smith isn't Guest cus Smith fought Guest in the HG
or maybe not
cus that cutscene got blacked out
so maybe...
Smith can still be Guest
cus we didn't got to see the fighting intro
tribal talon
ye
copper flume
Hello Neighbor will end with everyone getting an actual life
versed yacht
Yo pog
wicked heath
#old-spoilers was not rlly nessecary
versed yacht
That's kinda cool ngl I need one
wicked heath
Since everyone put spoilet tags
tribal talon
didn't asked 
🤌
you can talk about spoilers without spoiler tag in spoilers if you want
it's not like "imma gonna kill you for not using spoiler tag"
frail stratus
spoiler the neighbor owns a painting
tribal talon
OOP
gray vortex
Yes👍
tribal talon
versed yacht
That's from the prequel books before she dies
tribal talon
yeah
main idol
correction Mya
wicked heath
Yes
sullen goblet
Hi
tidal jacinth
Ok i used to know the lore, but with the new books and the time, im just lost
So i have a few questions
First, the names of the kids from secret neighbor, i know maritza, enzo and trinity
Second, why is the weather station so important
And third, is ike really quentin, bcz i heard he died before hn2
soft dagger
Second, why is the weather station so important
Maybe because of mayak
soft dagger
Maybe
cedar karma
he did
cedar karma
idk that part
gray dome
||Ike cannot be Q, as he's supposed to be dead by HN2, which would years after Ikes supposed death date, Ike simply only has Qs name as his middle name, that doesn't make him Q||
all book 6 spoilers
tidal jacinth
Wow
So he is called quentin
But not our quentin
And back to my first question
Sn kids' names
gray dome
Detective - Enzo
Brave - Maritza
Leader - Trinity
Rest are unknown as of the moment
tidal jacinth
Then i knew them all
Now why do they appear out of nothing in sn?
R they cannon?
soft dagger
Secret neighbor not canon but the events are kinda canon like mayak event for example
tidal jacinth
Ok i know kids try to find nicky
gray dome
SN is canon, everything is canon, the events, I'd say we don't really know but if you want, you can say it was the rocket event that was the canon event
soft dagger
Rocket event not canon I think but Nicky disappearance it is and mayak as well
tidal jacinth
Is sn just a, plan?
gray dome
we have no idea really
gleaming violet
SN is in the kids minds
gray dome
lots of people think its the rocket event
tidal jacinth
Oh
gray dome
to me it hasn't been answered
gleaming violet
im pretty sure rocket event confirmed it was just the kids planning
its def in the kids minds
tidal jacinth
I knew sn wasnt like, actually happening
gray dome
gleaming violet
the neighbors house does not turn in to a hecking mansion in the span of like a month
tribal talon
I thought she said lunch
gleaming violet
she said the lunch is ready
tidal jacinth
Look, lets skip sn
gleaming violet
not the launch
gray dome
its def in the kids minds
its influenced by ...something, I don't know what, to Nicky in Act 3 it was trauma
tidal jacinth
Act 2
gleaming violet
act 2 is real
tidal jacinth
Aaron helps nicky
gleaming violet
but its nickys distorted memory
gray dome
act 2 is an event from the past re imagined
tidal jacinth
Yeah, its a dream
gray dome
well yes but actually no
gleaming violet
but the neighbors house and the big gates are not real
gray dome
its not a "dream", so the events itself take place, but what u see isnt real
tidal jacinth
Act 3 starts with nicky waking up
gray dome
Act 1 and 2 still happen, they're the main events of the game
tidal jacinth
Like only the events
gray dome
well one of the most important at least
tidal jacinth
The house is fake
gleaming violet
act 1 is completely real
tidal jacinth
The shark is from his shirt