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steady fractal
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instead he finds a weeping neighbor

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Mr. Peterson, according to my theory, knows who the shadow guy is

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now at least

gray dome
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yk

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im too lazy to explain this but

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have u ever thought of him just being an embodiment of fear?

steady fractal
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that is what i am saying

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read the upper part

gray dome
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oh wait yeah u did sya that

steady fractal
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k now that we are on the same page

gray dome
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But I don't believe that the house pushing was from the son. But from the shadow guy
huh

steady fractal
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So I believe the shadow guy possessed the neighbor's son and forced him to push his sister off the roof

gray dome
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that was out of anger because he lost his mother

steady fractal
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Yea but we see an extremely surprised face after his deed which can also bee seen as that but just roll with it

gray dome
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mk but i just wanna point out that shocked face is bc he didnt realise what he was doing

steady fractal
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yea

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so this is also my explanation for why when the neighbor catches you in the first game you go back to your house

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and it is to protect you from the shadow guy

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And once you get into the basement in act 1 the neighbor leaves you their to die instead of his son

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Which is when secret neighbor happens

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While the neighbor has the protagonist kidnapped

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A group of kid start looking for their friend but to keep them from the basement the neighbor uses shadow guy magic or something to dress as their friend

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In this theory the kids win

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but when they get to the basement a surprise awaits them

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shadow guy slowly starts picking them off one by one

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and leaves only one to slowly die

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who is the one who saves the hello neighbor protagonist from the basement

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If you look in the key hole at the start of act 2 then you will see cardboard unlock the door

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it is my suspicion that this is the only kid who survived the encounter with shadow guy

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well "survived" is an over statement

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so the protagonist escapes the neighbor's house and makes it to his home to grow up and get the heck away from there

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enter hello neighbor 2

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I think in the timeline hello neighbor 2 takes place here where in we don't quite know what happens yet but I'm just putting it here just in case I want to end it later

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Enter Act 3 in the OG Hello Neighbor

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The protagonist moves back home to Raven Brooks

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and if you walk over to where the neighbor's house was you will see the shadow guy

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and once you get on the phone you see him again

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The protagonist goes to sleep and wakes up to his worst nightmare

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the neighbors house is back

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And bla bla bla we finish act three and get to the "final boss" where you face your fears, quite literally,

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You walk past a shack with the neighbor and shadow guy in it, leaving your fears behind into an open world where he lives happily ever after... the end

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I'll edit it later in a google doc but this is it for now

wanton drum
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the thing/shadow guy is actually just a manifestation of nicky (the protagonist) and the other kids fear of the neighbor it isnt real

worn grotto
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what

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the shack is a representation

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notice the exit door in the shack

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he locked aaron in the basement fearing hed lose his last family member and cant overcome the fear to get to his exit

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but nicky overcame his largest fear, the neighbor, and can get to his exit

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A group of kid start looking for their friend but to keep them from the basement the neighbor uses shadow guy magic or something to dress as their friend
@steady fractal what!?

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evidence to that theory please?

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even tho its wrong

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ynow theres a great video by Treescicle, you might want to go watch the 2 part series

steady fractal
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I dont really know how the neighbor disguises as a child

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So I put that because I had no idea

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However it is canon that they are looking for their friend in the basement

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I just suppose it is the protagonist from the first game

worn grotto
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I dont really know how the neighbor disguises as a child
@steady fractal that doesnt actually happen

steady fractal
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Can you explain

worn grotto
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the entirety of SN is the kids daydreaming of their plan

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they DID try to get into the basement

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but failed

steady fractal
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Its just in my theory they have to succeed for the plot to progress

worn grotto
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they dont

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aaron frees nnicky

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we dont know what happens to the other kids

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aaron freed nicky because he didnt think Nicky deserved to be down there

steady fractal
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That was apart of my original theory actually

worn grotto
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but aaron thought that he, himself, belonged down there for killing his sister

steady fractal
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Me and my friend made this up over an hour or 2 long car trip

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so that is why it needs improvement

worn grotto
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the sn kids failed because theyre stupid

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the neighbor could literally close the basement behind them and lock it

steady fractal
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if you guys want to I am making a google document with the theory in it and I can invite you

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so you can edit it

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Because it does need some (a lot of) improvement

wanton drum
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have you read the books

steady fractal
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some of them

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I have read the first 2 and am trying to find a way to read the 3rd

wanton drum
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just order it they're only like 10 dollars

worn grotto
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7 dollars when i got them

steady fractal
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I need to save my money to buy christmas presents for my brother and sister

worn grotto
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at barnes and noble

wanton drum
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i live in canada so they're 9.99 for me

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still a good price for a book tho

steady fractal
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yea

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I own the 2nd book read the 1st one at a library and have an audio book that I haven't listened to yet for the 3rd one

wanton drum
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listen to it

steady fractal
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ok

wanton drum
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book 4 and 5 are better in terms of lore tho

steady fractal
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They made MORE

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what

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I didn't know that

wanton drum
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they talk about the redacted and introduce redacted and then there's a redacted and then there's this redacted

worn grotto
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They made MORE
@steady fractal book 6 and 7 are coming too

wanton drum
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yes

steady fractal
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Is it ok if I send you the google doc so you guys can help me make more

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cuz dang am I behind

wanton drum
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im working on 2 different projects rn i cant help with that too

steady fractal
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ok

wanton drum
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sorry

worn grotto
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i might

steady fractal
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ok I'll send you the doc

wanton drum
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send it to me too so i can just take a look

steady fractal
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When I am finished

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ok

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It is exactly the same as the discord one but in a doc and easier to read

worn grotto
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im actually going to eat now so when im back

tribal talon
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hi

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oo what are you eaten

steady fractal
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Im going to start a message chat with you guys so I can send it when I a finished

tribal talon
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way

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ok

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sorry

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i am sorry @wary mica

tribal talon
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B

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Hello neighbor cartoon?

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(Opps)

worn grotto
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wdym?

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@tribal talon

tribal talon
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As we see from drawings within the games, the kids were "friends" with the shadow guy
@steady fractal what drawing?

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instead he finds a weeping neighbor
? He does not find the neighbor

true mountain
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Yo

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I just played and finished the new alpha

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and now I am confused

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can anyone explain any of what I just watched

tribal talon
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Don’t worry I’m sure someone will convince you it’s a timeline

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And it will supposedly make sense

steady fractal
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@tribal talon

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The part about the weeping neighbor is because in the game you can find him crying

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And I have to quickly replay act one to make sure I'm right about the shadow guy pictures but I'm pretty sure

gray dome
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Don’t worry I’m sure someone will convince you it’s a timeline
Yeah, cus theres no other way to explain everythin'

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(HN2, not HN1/HS/SN)

steady fractal
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I think the timeline is HS-HN1 Act 1-SN-HN1 Act 2-HN2-HN1 Act 3

stuck ice
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What game is HS again?

worn grotto
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hide and seek

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I think the timeline is HS-HN1 Act 1-SN-HN1 Act 2-HN2-HN1 Act 3
@steady fractal HE is after HS but before act 1

icy zenith
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Oh my home

heavy monolith
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And I have to quickly replay act one to make sure I'm right about the shadow guy pictures but I'm pretty sure
@steady fractal they arent friends with him

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The part about the weeping neighbor is because in the game you can find him crying
You mean noncanon alphas

lavish lily
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Disrespectf-

icy zenith
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Lore now!

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Who is Reel Man

wanton drum
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he is a man with a reel

wicked heath
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Who is Reel Man
@icy zenith

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Wat

icy zenith
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Check the same channel

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In the hn discord

steady fractal
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No you can see him crying in act 3

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And it was just a reference

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And I still haven't checked if you can see pictures of the kids with shadow guy

worn grotto
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there are no pictures

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and he is not crying at any point

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unless you mean that if you stay at the door after knocking him over in the basement you can hear him crying

tribal talon
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WHO IS-

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crow guy?

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i onley comeple act 1

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bad spelling

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hold up

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found it!

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crow guy theory

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1.we never known if he was killed,even though there is evidence leading people to that conclusion.

2.we see the crow and the neighbor at the same time at some point at the beginning of the 2nd game.

[Extra theory:the person in one of the photos at the end of the animated series extended pilot could be Aaron.]

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k bye

steady fractal
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@worn grotto no in act 3 if you leave him alone long enough and spy on him. Then on his door steps he will sit down and cry

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And I didnt mean for the crying part to be crucial

tropic sedge
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@worn grotto no in act 3 if you leave him alone long enough and spy on him. Then on his door steps he will sit down and cry
@steady fractal yeah but, act 3 never happened

valid mulch
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Leave neighbor???

old glacier
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what

hard ingot
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@steady fractal yeah but, act 3 never happened
@tropic sedge it did

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its just it was like trauma or something

tropic sedge
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...no?

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the entire act was nickey sleeping

hard ingot
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Nikita said nothing in HN is a dream

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not even SN

old glacier
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yeah it's trauma

hard ingot
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i would show you but i was banned on omega for shit reasons

tribal talon
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and he is not crying at any point
@worn grotto the only time he is crying is in act final with the missing poster and act 3 like you said if you stay after you lock him he also cries in dream in act 1 but that’s it in full release I’m not counting alphas or betas

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@worn grotto no in act 3 if you leave him alone long enough and spy on him. Then on his door steps he will sit down and cry
@steady fractal actually he doesn’t cry he just sits there and takes deep breaths

valid mulch
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I wonder,where aaron.

versed yacht
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Ok call me crazy but, what if the reason act 3 isn't a dream, and nothing in HN is, is because Shadow Man isn't just there to represent Nicky's fear, but he's actually just represents Aaron as a ghost, or someone else watching him, and haunting him. Nicky is afraid of it, and he can see it in the real world from what we know, since he covers his eyes, looks shocked and runs away from it. When Nicky goes to sleep, the Ghost creates something using all of Nicky's fear, which is Act 3 and Finale. Ik this sounds dumb, but it's just an idea.

gray dome
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...no

versed yacht
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Yeah it's far-fetched, but still, who knows

golden valve
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is simming misspelled on purpose?

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is it like a running joke

gray dome
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Yeah

wicked heath
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1.we never known if he was killed,even though there is evidence leading people to that conclusion.

2.we see the crow and the neighbor at the same time at some point at the beginning of the 2nd game.

[Extra theory:the person in one of the photos at the end of the animated series extended pilot could be Aaron.]
@tribal talon its the same shoe. Beside, who do u think it could be

tribal talon
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We never knew who was killed?

gray dome
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Guest

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And why does it matter if they were shown at the same time

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doesnt mean theyre not the same person

steady fractal
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Yea I just ment for the crying thing to be a one off reference not the main point of criticism

tribal talon
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ay

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gyufv

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were is

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h

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Yea I don’t understand what your three are talking about

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😦

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😉

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mimic B O X

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?

steady fractal
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It is way further up

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If you dont understand

wild ore
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Dmefm it does matter if we see them at the same time in the same place because that proves that they are not same person

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Oh and how could be the guest if if trapped behind the door

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Mr Peterson be the guest if trapped behind door witch he could not open

gray dome
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time things exist

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so gg no re

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Oh and how could be the guest if if trapped behind the door
easy

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that Guest isnt Ted

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but another one is

copper wave
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Oh and how could be the guest if if trapped behind the door
1.5 isnt real and it hurts me that people think it is

steady fractal
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It could be made canon later on

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Probably not... but maybe

copper wave
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no its definitely canon

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but the events that we see in alpha 1.5 arent real

worn grotto
steady fractal
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That's what I mean

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Alpha 1.5

crude dew
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ok but not everyone knows, what a journalist's mind means clown

wild ore
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But they said they added lore to it

copper wave
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what i mean by not real - what we see in game isnt actually happening, but all the information and the ending is all real

agile hare
azure cliff
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yeah

agile hare
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the kids aren't real

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they are just straw

azure cliff
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the guest made fake kids

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the real ones are alive

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just a theory

vivid merlin
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Noooo

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Who is real

wanton drum
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guest kid is real

vivid merlin
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but

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5.Sugar disappears 2 after taking it

wanton drum
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what?

vivid merlin
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Never mind

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I will tell later

tribal talon
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If you dont understand
@steady fractal I know what your saying just someone else who I didn’t understand

floral lodge
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Wait, so if Hello Neighbor 2 is not cannon (right now), then who do we play as? A random guy who has a weird dream? Or is it the same guy who was the MC in Hello Neighbor?

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Also how does this take place? A dream? A movie? What is it (Also sorry for so many questions 😅 )?

gray dome
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well

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1

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it is canon

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the full release ofc

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alphas might be in full game too but we dont know rn

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and we play as Quentin

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a journalist investigating the disappearance of the Neighbor

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And I doubt it's dream, nor movie

floral lodge
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ohhhhh I thought when classic said its not cannon i thought he/she meant the full game

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yeah that makes sense why the save files are called Quentin

crude dew
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yeah
Quentin is the fruit shirt guy
you won't mistake it

wicked heath
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@viscid wing sup

viscid wing
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hi

arctic terrace
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hi

steady fractal
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@tribal talon who is it

floral lodge
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The new cartoon they made really made me wonder why the kid has goggles. He doesn't have goggles in the original. Also he has the same clothes as the guy in the game in act 1 so it is not a different person.

tribal talon
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im the only want don't like the style of the cartoon?

worn grotto
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that didnt make sense

floral lodge
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yeah it didn't

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I think he means " Am I the only one who doesn't like the style of the cartoon?" honestly I agree the swirls on their faces in the game is ok but in a animation no

tribal talon
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The new cartoon they made really made me wonder why the kid has goggles. He doesn't have goggles in the original. Also he has the same clothes as the guy in the game in act 1 so it is not a different person.
@floral lodge nicky? the character in HN1? yeah thats the character you play as in hn1

hard ingot
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cartoon style is actually original

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old artstyle is a bunch of models that were modelled off stock images

spare bronze
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Hi, What is the new in the new update of hello neighbor 2 ???

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Anyone knows ?

hard ingot
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bru

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#hello-neighbor

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also do you mean alpha 1.5 or patch 2 of alpha 1.5

spare bronze
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my bad sorry bro

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patch 2

hard ingot
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oh

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i think its less laggy

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better lighting

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better textures

spare bronze
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ok thanks

worn grotto
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new house layout

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and puzzles

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same objective but new required items

floral lodge
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Yes Nicky. @tribal talon I just realized that he had them to spy on the neighbor.

tribal talon
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Duh

floral lodge
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-_- who asked

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yeah no one

fast marten
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i asked

icy zenith
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Neighbor is the Reel Man

tall rose
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The crow the showdown man and the other suit was for the neighbor

gleaming violet
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shadow man is not real

steady fractal
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wot

wanton drum
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oh no here we go again

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the shadow man or its canon name "the thing" is a manifestation of nicky's fear of the neighbor its not real and it never was real

tropic comet
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why

steady fractal
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I have an entire theory about it

wanton drum
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well that theory is flawed because its not taking much of the book into effect

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and its also ignoring the fact that the guidebook actually tells you the shadow man is a manifestation of nicky's fear of the neighbor

steady fractal
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yes but I don't have money so I can't take the books into account

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so your anger is flawed

wanton drum
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im not angry

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im just telling you whats actually going on with the lore

steady fractal
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ok

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I'm sorry

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it just feels like everyone yelled at me for the theory

strange lance
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The SN kids have the same thing with the shadow, they also have the same fear as nicky. Even if SN is not cannon, the thing still is.

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Thats all from me forever. Goodbye.

loud tusk
tribal talon
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hey dat kid

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...

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he

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hello nighbor hide and seek

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here is the timeline

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Hello neighbor hide and seek hello neighbor hello nighbor 2 hello guest

tribal talon
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The Thing is supposed to be guilt

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The idea is a mix between fear and guilt

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Sort of like Pyramid Head

hard ingot
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wot
@steady fractal its nickys fear or guilt or something

strange lance
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Its his fear of the neighbor.

wicked heath
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No. Its the mixture of all traumas and fear. Every characters has their perspectives of the fear

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Nicky: Nieghbor and traumas in the past

worn grotto
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Neighbor: Losing his last family member

surreal cradle
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hey

tribal talon
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Hello neighbor hide and seek hello neighbor hello nighbor 2 hello guest
hello guest is hello neighbor 2

loud tusk
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No. Its the mixture of all traumas and fear. Every characters has their perspectives of the fear
Why do so many people ask about this? Quick Google search tells you everything.

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I've seen that question in this channel more than anything.

shut bear
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how are ya guys

steady fractal
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Good I guess

novel iris
tribal talon
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HG is before HN2

hard ingot
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hello guest is HN 2

tribal talon
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Yes

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But HG is set before the events of it

heavy monolith
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I think its after

buoyant ore
faint grotto
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Where does HN2 go?

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Is it before or after HN?

wanton drum
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after

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it literally tells you it takes place after

faint grotto
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Probably way after adult Nicky events

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idk

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I'm not into lore that much, we don’t have a lot of information

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I heard I theory about Quentin being Aaron

heavy monolith
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Its not way after

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Its before act 3

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And after act 2

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So its basically during hn1

faint grotto
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Makes more sense

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Since the Neighbor's house is still intact

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Also I think I know why the house in act 3 is burned, and I think is because of the fire place that the neighbor had in HN2

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That is a possibility

faint grotto
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?

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What is your point?

worn grotto
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Is it before or after HN?
@faint grotto nineteen act 2 and 3

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Between

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Stupid autocorrdct

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Grrr

tribal talon
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e

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i have hello neighbor alpha 2

tribal talon
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Stupid autocorrdct
my mobile doesnt even auto correct on discord

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aaannnnddd... i lost my train of thought

wispy cliff
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In the 2 demo the character you play as is the same as the one in the amusement park demo thing, but with a different job, in 2 it looks like youre a news reporter, the van and such. I have no idea if it's a timeline or if they're changing it up.

wanton drum
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That’s correct

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Good job

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Also the character you play as has a name

wispy cliff
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im somewhat competent!

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Oh? what is it

wanton drum
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Quentin

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And he is a news reporter

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His job at the amusement park is a side job

wispy cliff
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i forgot about that
So if it's a linear timeline, that means the redhead lady got sacked in the ending of guest, huh?

wanton drum
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No

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The events of hga1 aren’t exactly canon it’s just an alpha

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They might be later but it’s not confirmed

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Also timelines are a real thing

wispy cliff
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I'm just saying if what we have so far is to be used as any sort of hint or discussion as where the lore goes

wanton drum
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It’s not even really a theory anymore because there’s so much evidence to support them in hn2

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I'm just saying if what we have so far is to be used as any sort of hint or discussion as where the lore goes
That’s exactly what it’s doing

wispy cliff
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it's all hypothetical of course but if you consider it worth looking into or keeping in mind it's there

wanton drum
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Wait one thing

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Who do you think the guest is

wispy cliff
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The crow man?

wanton drum
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Yes

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The crow mans name is the guest

wispy cliff
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We don't really have any idea on who else it would be, not really rich with suspects but past hints and such, and the overall build scream it to be the neighbor

wanton drum
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thats most likely correct

wispy cliff
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the same hunchback stocky and short build goin on

wanton drum
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But here’s where it gets interesting

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What if I told you there are 2 neighbors in hn2 and one of them is from another timeline

wispy cliff
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id say that confuses me and I don't see the devs going that far that soon but I'm interested.

wanton drum
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Ok so in the files of hn2 there is a second neighbor model labeled as nft which stands for neighbor for trailer and that model matches the guests proportions exactly

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Nft is also the neighbor on the missing poster in hn2

wispy cliff
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Timelines n' shit.. 8 year old undertale me is screaming..

wanton drum
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The other neighbor which is the one in the actual game that we’ve seen is most likely from the book timeline because he matches the books description of him almost exactly

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Have you read the books

wispy cliff
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Okay but notice how rugged in general the crow looks, and the location strikes me as odd. i Dont think its the same old neighborhood, the amusement parks feris wheel is too close

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to a point

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finished 3

wanton drum
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Well it’s kinda messy but things are subject to change

wispy cliff
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i think its the whole housing plan for the amusement park, some time after the game. He's very much insane enough to replicate a whole house

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especially if the development plan failed

wanton drum
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It’s most likely in the game timeline and the amusement park was most likely just a thing that was thought of later

wispy cliff
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I think it could be one timeline, the neighbor would probably go into hiding in an abandoned development plan built on the grave of his amusement park and some little girl after locking away his kid and nicky

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a very neighbor thing to do

wanton drum
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Nicky and aaron already escaped during hn2

wispy cliff
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insanity isn't rational anyways.
I know

wanton drum
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Oh

wispy cliff
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insanity isn't a rational thing. big crazy, aaaa, go crazy aaaa go stupid

wanton drum
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Anyways the reason the town looks like that in hn2 is because a massive storm destroyed the town because the mayak which is a weather station built by the neighbors parents which can create storms and might be a gateway to other timelines was reactivated

wispy cliff
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You're investigating this just as much if not more than Quinton or Nicky

wanton drum
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trust me there are people who go way farther than I have

wispy cliff
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W h a t

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okay you lost me there

wanton drum
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I meant that as in there are people who know more than I do

wispy cliff
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no i mean

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the weather thing

wanton drum
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Also the mayak is the building that’s shown at the end of the hello guest prototype after the wall gets destroyed

wispy cliff
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And when di it get a name

wanton drum
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It’s in the files

wispy cliff
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or definitive lore-

wanton drum
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Well actually it was shown in a secret neighbor event where it was labeled as mayak-1

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It’s just what we call it

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Also it’s an emoji in the server

wispy cliff
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weird

wanton drum
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I don’t have the full image with me rn

wispy cliff
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it all seems like a stretch to me though

wanton drum
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Anyways that’s all the lore I’ll give for today because my fingers are starting to hurt

wispy cliff
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fair

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A stretch, I don't know what ill think if that turns out to be true but I guess either way im excited

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I think ill enjoy it basically no matter what happens

icy zenith
#

Hi

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Theres someone named man in the hat

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heavily speculated and theorized to be a book 5 character Gordon Cleave

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I'll just leave it to that

wanton drum
#

Hey if you’re still online justeggy this is a friend of mine who’s gonna tell you more lore

wild ore
#

I have to know why does the alternate timelines have to be correct and what happens if it isn't

wanton drum
#

The answer is

wild ore
#

What

wanton drum
#

Do you need me to repeat myself

wild ore
#

Yes

wanton drum
#

Ok

#

The answer is

#

Yes

wild ore
#

Because that is not a answer

wanton drum
#

The answer is yes

wild ore
#

To my question

#

And what if they confirmed it to not be cannon

wanton drum
#

The timeline theory is very likely so unless you support it it doesn’t matter

wild ore
#

I want to know what happens if the timeline theory is not cannon what happens then

wanton drum
#

Idk

wild ore
#

See this is what happens when you don't allowed yourself to be open to other theorys because it is not cannon you don't know what to think

wanton drum
#

thats not what I think at all I just support the timeline theory

#

Ok then what’s your theory

winged knoll
#

dead man i sware

#

ive explained that we are not in the same place as in hn1 multiable times in this chat

#

hello neighbor 2 takes place in old town not the main part of the town of raven brooks like hn1

hard ingot
#

HN 2 is a different place to HN 1

#

a hurricane cant change everything

winged knoll
#

ive been saying that for so long

wanton drum
#

I didn’t say it took place in the main town

winged knoll
#

you said it destroyed the town made it look that way in hn2

#

only place it destroyed is old town and even then it was already falling apart as its the oldest part in town

tribal talon
#

эеэеэееэеэеэееэ

tribal talon
#

hello neighbor 2 takes place in old town not the main part of the town of raven brooks like hn1
@winged knoll have to agree makes the most sense. Because old town was in the direction of gaap and weather station and hn2 town your in is abandoned and stuff is overgrown and dirt roads. The main part of town is HN1 it’s all still raven brooks just not the same neighborhoods HN1 is friendly court where as hn2 is old town. And just because there’s a very similar act 1 neighbor house doesn’t prove it’s the same neighborhood maybe the parents or grandparents when they moved from the old neighborhood to the new one friendly court the built one identical to the old one that was left in old town that was closer to there job the weather station.

#

Old town house closer to weather station I mean

#

So old town house was closer to there jobs the weather station

#

иииииииииииииии

#

Plus if it’s between acts 2-3 then this proves my point how act 1 the town looks then hn2 it just changes dramatically? Then goes back to normal act 2 hmmm this means it’s not the same neighborhood if it’s truly between acts 2-3

gray dome
#

Still doesn't explain 2 neighbors

#

And timelines exist

#

Otherwise u can answer questions

vivid merlin
#

Still doesn't explain 2 neighbors
@gray dome but if it happens

hard ingot
#

wh

#

its not confirmed theres two neighbors

#

and those neighbor in guest suit are old ideas from like early 2019

vivid merlin
#

yes but in hg counts hn2

winged knoll
#

two neighbor theory what are you talkin about

vivid merlin
#

it's just alpha, clear and accurate information is not complete. If this happens in the full version, I will accept it. now I accept it like this

#

Not just mine, everyone's opinion changes

#

and things in this game don't count as junkyard

tribal talon
#

And timelines exist
@gray dome we aren’t talking about timelines

#

We are talking about where hn2 takes place in raven brooks

#

I 100% agree it’s in old town

#

That’s what I was talking about

vivid merlin
#

After act 2 but before act 3 I would say it is unreasonable and unlike

#

If it is located in the town on hn1 of course

tribal talon
#

Everyone says it’s before act 3 and after act 2 my point was is it can’t be the same neighborhood but it can be the same town old town is a part of raven brooks so saying it’s in old town doesn’t mean I’m saying it’s in a different town just neighborhood

vivid merlin
#

I agree

tribal talon
#

But like you said it’s just alpha so it’s probably going to change at some point

gray dome
#

Yes but timelines also explain the different neighborhoods

vivid merlin
#

Why is this crow man always sitting in the neighbor's house?

tribal talon
#

Yes but timelines also explain the different neighborhoods
@gray dome ok and

#

What’s your theory have to do with mine

gray dome
#

It means that the Neighborhood might not be Old Town

heavy monolith
#

and those neighbor in guest suit are old ideas from like early 2019
hello neighbor 2 is also from 2019

copper wave
#

the neighbors house is part of old town

#

in which both old town and new town are sections of raven brooks

winged knoll
#

no one explains what the timeline theory is but keep refering to it

trim tendon
#

the neighbor 2 alpha 1 is weird

#

i have it but

winged knoll
#

you talking about hello guest or hello neighbor 2

trim tendon
#

guest mix with neighbor 2

#

the halloween one

#

hello neighbor 2 alpha 1

winged knoll
#

ah

trim tendon
#

i place cam near keypad to see code

#

but i missed him typing it bc i went away from pc

winged knoll
#

go to the hello neighbor chat if you want to talk about the game this chat is for lore discussion

grave narwhal
#

can i spoiler the code

winged knoll
#

ok

faint raft
#

hi

grave narwhal
#

nice

#

wait

#

the code is 1648

fast marten
#

it doesnt matter the code is randomized everytime you create a new game

grave narwhal
#

no, at me it isn't

trim tendon
#

whats the point of the second neighbor game alpha 1?

#

the kids get taken by neighbor. The end.

gray dome
#

well theres more to the story ofc

#

but its in alpha

shut bear
#

hey

#

hi

tribal talon
#

I have a theory

#

We don't know if HN2 is set a few MONTHS after act 2 or if it's only a few months before Nicky came back

#

If it's the latter we have a good possibility Enzo, Cleave, or Mr. Esposito are MITH

hard ingot
#

Enzo is MITH\

#

hah

#

No

#

but it would be funni

tribal talon
#

in which both old town and new town are sections of raven brooks
that’s a better way to put it.

sonic anchor
#

@tribal talon i think that HN2 is after the whole game, neighbor on the end of alpha 1 and 1.5 looks lil bit older.

old glacier
#

no it's a design choice

sonic anchor
#

@old glacier I know but it would make more sense when it will be after the whole game

old glacier
#

🗿

sonic anchor
#

dont say it wouldn´t make more sense

tribal talon
#

It isnt

#

They updated the graphics

#

They confirmed it to be set between act 2 and 3

echo bane
#

Well.. That Ruins My Theory

tribal talon
#

Well.. That Ruins My Theory
@echo bane yea they confirmed it in an Instagram message and that’s literally it

sonic anchor
#

Ok, i trust you but idk, i think he looks a lil bit more like adult XD

royal flax
#

sooo u play as the mya in hello neighbor 1 right?

south palm
#

Can someone tell me where to get gas for the generator in Hello Neighbour 2 alpha 1.5

fast marten
#

gas can spawn in the gas station (aka shop)

south palm
#

I can't get into the gas station thp

#

tho

#

There are shelves in the way

#

of the door

#

and there are no other doors

#

nvm found one

#

Thanks buddy

empty willow
#

Does anyone have a theory of who is under the guest mask?

heavy monolith
#

Theodore

empty willow
#

I just thought of something

#

In hello neighbor 2, the terrain and the houses around you aren't the same as the original game

#

It could be a different place

#

Or I'm just wrong

#

That seems more likely

heavy monolith
#

Well hide and seek also has a different neighborhood

#

And yknow, hn2 is an alpha

hollow raven
#

Hei

vernal kraken
#

I like the environment in hn2 more than the first so honestly it doesn't matter to me why it's different lol

torpid wigeon
hard ingot
#

because thats how they textured it

#

i dont think it means anything lore wise

empty willow
#

I thought it was a ball

#

They will probably make it a normal apple in later versions

#

Or just take it out completely

empty willow
#

Guest knows neighbor, but what is their exact relationship

hard ingot
#

there the same person

#

kinda

empty willow
#

I don't think so

hard ingot
#

well he looks just like fake neighbor and nft so..

empty willow
#

I really think he is someone else

hard ingot
#

he also has clothes the look like the neighbors

#

if you say hes Aaron

#

i will kra

empty willow
#

I do think it's aron

#

He definitely knows neighbor

#

100%

hard ingot
#

because hes neighbor from a different timeline

gray dome
hard ingot
#

hm

#

that image

winged knoll
#

that image is from like.. 2018 i doubt it means anything at this point

gray dome
#

really?

#

also no, it was posted late 2019

#

2018 the game didnt even start development

#

not till late 2018 at least

#

Aug. 2018

hard ingot
#

hm

#

that image is from like may 2019 tho

gray dome
#

doesnt mean its outdated

winged knoll
#

i didint know the time frame of the image so i just said what sounded right

gray dome
#

I'm just saying, even though it might be old story doesn't mean it's scrapped

hard ingot
#

hm

#

true

#

i only think guest is nft because they look very close

gray dome
#

proportions too

#

lots of evidence

hard ingot
#

yea

#

they have the same shoes right?

#

and gloves

heavy monolith
#

and same exact body and legs

old crater
#

Can someone give a synopsis of the books and what happens in them so I can try to understand?

heavy monolith
#

sure

#

probably in dm’s

echo bane
#

Nicky Was Right About The Aliens..

#

Maybe..

hard ingot
#

w

heavy patrol
#

Nah

hard ingot
#

name every HN timeline

heavy patrol
#

isn't there only 1 that keeps getting more complex as they go on?

hard ingot
#

well

echo bane
#

Bc In The Map We See This..

hard ingot
#

eh

heavy patrol
#

that,is actually an EE

echo bane
#

Wut

#

Oh

hard ingot
#

i think that right before HN 2 the SN kids and lucy tormented him

heavy patrol
#

By researching it turns out that is a real life satellite that connects to the time period HN takes place in

#

AKA the 1990s

hard ingot
#

act 3 is in 2015

heavy patrol
#

yes

#

but the ACT3 main map isn't based in reality

hard ingot
#

imagination act 3 is in 1997

heavy patrol
#

yes

#

aka when Act 1 takes place

hard ingot
#

hm

#

thats 1996 tho

#

i think

echo bane
#

Spoliers: ||Maybe In HN2 The Kids Are Scaring The Neighbor In The Attic They Turned Into Ghosts..||

heavy patrol
#

Act 2 is either in the same year on just a few after

hard ingot
#

act 2 is 1 or 2 months after act 1

heavy patrol
#

Spoliers:
Nah

hard ingot
#

Nikita confirmed it

heavy patrol
#

then still 1997

echo bane
#

FLIP

heavy patrol
#

so SN is also in 1997

hard ingot
#

yea

heavy patrol
#

everything connects

hard ingot
#

but uh

#

book 1 is in 1995

#

and so is HS

heavy patrol
#

in book 1 the whole Peterson family is alive

hard ingot
#

book 1 starts right before HS and ends right after HS

heavy patrol
#

so Nicky's been in Raven Brooks for only 2 years and he gets caught in all of this

hard ingot
#

uh

#

i think he was only in 1

#

not that much time passes after HS

#

book 2 is like a few months after HS

heavy patrol
#

idk, we never get a clue to what season we're in (HN)

hard ingot
#

and book 3 is like right after

#

and book 3 is act 1

#

so

#

pretty sure its 96

heavy patrol
#

Book 3 ends with the Pilot episode and Act 1 at the same time

echo bane
#

My HN Timeline: HS, The Books, TV Show Episode 1, Act 1 Basement, SN, Act 2, HN2, HG, Act 3, Act Final

hard ingot
#

uh

heavy patrol
#

so the Animated Series is pretty much the prequel/re-telling of SN

hard ingot
#

book 4 and 5 is before HS

#

book 4 is in 1992

heavy patrol
#

also HG is prob before HN2

echo bane
#

O

hard ingot
#

yea

echo bane
#

I Didn't Read The Books.

#

BTW

hard ingot
#

oh

vivid merlin
#

the date in my opinion is different

#

but I can not explain

#

because they criticize

heavy patrol
#

Book 4/5 - HE - Book 1 - HS/Book2 - Book 3 - Act 1 - Animated Series - SN - Act 2 - HG/HN2 - Act 3 and Finale

echo bane
#

Did I Just Forget About HE

hard ingot
#

HE is before act 1

#

and book 4 and 5 exist

heavy patrol
#

i don't Count HE as a thing rn

hard ingot
#

nah

#

its cannon but uh

heavy patrol
#

There, fixed

vivid merlin
#

shall I tell

hard ingot
#

yes

#

sure

echo bane
#

Maybe The Fake Neighbor Is Nicky.. Idk He Looks Like Nicky..

hard ingot
#

vandals look like nicky

heavy patrol
#

Nah, that's just the new artstyle

#

plus, during HN2, Nicky is still in the city

hard ingot
#

yea

vivid merlin
#

How is normal neighbor's beard

hard ingot
#

what year do you think HN 2 is in?

vivid merlin
#

but the beard depends on the way you cut

echo bane
#

2003 Maybe

hard ingot
#

yea

echo bane
#

Idk

heavy patrol
#

prob 2007/2010

#

idk

hard ingot
#

hm

#

sad

vivid merlin
#

no 1880

echo bane
#

vandals look like nicky
@hard ingot Maybe They Are Nicky's Kids

#

Jk

heavy patrol
#

no 1880
XD

vivid merlin
#

me: 2020

echo bane
#

... Glitchman is typing

hard ingot
#

i was gonna do a HN 6 year anniversary or something and it would have Aaron in it and i know nothing about modelling so i was gonna use a slightly edited Aaron with different textures but now idk anymore somebody help

#

and it was gonna be set minutes before HN 2

vivid merlin
#

will aaron come out

echo bane
#

6 Year anniversary?!

vivid merlin
#

i think take it out

echo bane
#

HN Is 2 Years Old

heavy patrol
#

Aaron must still be around in HN2

hard ingot
#

6 Year anniversary?!
@echo bane of when HN was revealed in june 2015

echo bane
#

Oh

#

That's 5

vivid merlin
#

if it happens, hn2 could have a happy ending

hard ingot
#

That's 5
@echo bane in june 2021

echo bane
#

O

hard ingot
#

thats when i would do it

echo bane
#

Aaron Maybe Died From The Fire..

#

Maybe..

#

Idk

hard ingot
#

nah

#

i think he caused it

vivid merlin
#

no

#

his alive

echo bane
#

Maybe He Ran Away

vivid merlin
#

Yeah. because there is no evidence that he died

echo bane
#

And He Has A Happy Life Now

vivid merlin
#

in neighbor

hard ingot
#

i think he tries to kill the neighbor but fails

#

thats what i was gonna do in the animation

vivid merlin
#

Do not think that everything is dead. not that bad

#

how is aaron adult version

hard ingot
#

my HN timeline: 1991: hello neighbor book #4 bad blood
1992: hello neighbor book #5 grave mistake
1993: hello neighbor book #6 puzzle master
1995: hello neighbor book #1 missing pieces
1995: hello neighbor hide & seek
1996: hello neighbor book #2 waking nightmare
1996: hello neighbor book #3 buried secrets
1996: hello neighbor act 1
1996: hello neighbor the animated series
1996: secret neighbor
1996: hello neighbor act 2
2007: HN 2
2015: hello neighbor act 3 and act finale

echo bane
#

I Feel Like When Mr. Peterson's Story Ends Aaron Will Become The Next Neighbor

#

Idk Why

hard ingot
#

i feel like Aaron will be a character in HN 2

echo bane
#

Yea

#

Same

hard ingot
#

and peterson will probs die in like HN 3 or something

#

they said they would make 3 more games

echo bane
#

Yes

heavy patrol
#

i still stand by from Act 1 forward is 1997

hard ingot
#

HN 3

#

HE

heavy patrol
#

even the milk carton says so

hard ingot
#

hm

#

well

#

wait

echo bane
#

Yes The MILK

hard ingot
#

book 1 and HS are in 1995

#

not that much time passes in book 2

#

so thats 1996

#

and book 3 is not that long after book 2

#

and act 1 is right after

#

so...

echo bane
#

Maybe Book 3 Takes Place In November?

#

Idk

hard ingot
#

uh

#

still would be in 1996

echo bane
#

Oh

heavy patrol
#

but do u know in which season they are?

hard ingot
#

its summer

heavy patrol
#

cuz Act 1 looks like it's in spring

hard ingot
#

im pretty sure it says its summer in the books

heavy patrol
#

bruh, always summer

hard ingot
#

im 99.9% sure they say it in the books

echo bane
#

Hello Neighbor Lore Is The Next FNaF Lore

hard ingot
#

yea

echo bane
#

It Keeps Getting More And More Confusing.

hard ingot
#

we are kinda starting to solve fnaf tho

echo bane
#

Vanny

#

And Stuff

hard ingot
#

we already figured out vanny

#

shes partly controlled by glitch boi

#

anyways

#

this is HN lore not fnaf so..

#

back on topic

echo bane
#

I Do Think The Neighbor's An Alien

hard ingot
#

no

#

please no

heavy patrol
#

I wouldn't thake the Science update trailer an actual thing, XD

echo bane
#

Yes

hard ingot
#

he had human parents and Aaron and Mya are humans

echo bane
#

I Heard In The Books His Family Is Weird, That's Why His Family Is Weird, That's Why He Can Turn Into A Kid In SN. In The Movie The Thing There's An Alien That Can Turn Into Anyone If He Kills The Person.

hard ingot
#

uh

#

still doubt hes alien

echo bane
#

So He Killed One Of The Kids.

#

Or Kidnapped

hard ingot
#

the mask is probably a advanced invention from a different timeline that he got using mayak

echo bane
#

Yea

#

Maybe

#

I Feel Like I'm Matpat Now :NickyPOG:

hard ingot
#

wait

#

no

#

SN is the kids imagination

echo bane
#

Maybe This Whole Time The Neighbor Is Innocent

#

I Doubt It

#

But Maybe

hard ingot
#

hm

echo bane
#

Maybe It's Just A Game, TinyBuild Are The Evil Ones It Explains The Error World

hard ingot
#

j

#

o

echo bane
#

E?

#

Joe?

hard ingot
#

idk

echo bane
#

Lol

hard ingot
#

oh my lord

#

i just realised...

echo bane
#

What?

hard ingot
#

HG A2 intro leaks exist

echo bane
#

Yea They Exist

hard ingot
#

i forgot HN existed not long before HG A1 so i had no idea those existed

#

i only remembered it existed because the HN 2 announcement trailer came up in my recommended on july 24th

echo bane
#

Ok

echo bane
#

The Original Story To Alpha 4 - Beta 3 Is Nicky Was The Neighbor's Son That's Why They Look Similar To Each Other

hard ingot
#

yea

echo bane
#

People

#

People Still Think They Are Father And Son

hard ingot
#

sad

echo bane
#

Lol

boreal coyote
#

ok

wicked heath
#

when is H&S stage 2?

#

actually, im just gonna play and see

#

wait... so its Stage 1 = 20 march

#

Stage 2 = 30 march

#

10 days between when they first moved in Raven Brooks and when Diane died

#

something is wrong here

#

Like rlly rlly wrong

gray dome
#

Ofc

#

Its HN

wild ore
#

Sn is in the mid of the kids

#

From the moon ending and to back this up if look behind the kids you can see the neighbours that looks like act ones home but as soon as you start a match it goes weird

icy zenith
icy zenith
icy zenith
# hard ingot book 4 is in 1992

Book 4 starts in 1991 and ends in Spring of 1992 I believe. Since the park opens in the summer of 1992 and book 5 ends when the park is opened

floral lodge
#

Woah there are books????

gleaming violet
#

yea

#

you did not know

#

they started making the books in 2018

#

they made 5 books and a guide book and a graphic novel

gray vortex
heavy monolith
#

It was the story

#

They changed it between beta 3 and full game

#

But in beta 3 he was the neighbors son

gleaming wolf
#

who do you think the guest is?

wanton drum
#

nft is the guest

hard summit
#

I think Guest is three Imbir in a bird suit 👀

hybrid cargo
#

Hello!

void schooner
echo bane
#

Inventor's Name Is Jimmy (Bc Scout Called Him Jimmy In The Trailer)

#

Scout's Name Might Be Rita

#

And Idk About Bagger.

storm salmon
#

bagger = bagger

echo bane
#

I Will Just Call Bagger Ben For Now..

tribal talon
#

Baggers name is JOE

storm salmon
#

no

#

ben

vivid merlin
vivid merlin
#

how do you know

echo bane
#

Ok I Will Show You

#

Just Wait A Sec

vivid merlin
#

prove it on this channel

echo bane
vivid merlin
#

i hear as jim

storm salmon
#

JIMMY

echo bane
#

Oh Sorry

vivid merlin
#

but i doubt the name jimmy

#

ok scout and bagger

echo bane
#

I 99.9% Think It's Jimmy

storm salmon
#

i slowed the clip down

vivid merlin
#

I would be surprised if there is someone speaking in the game, speaking normally

echo bane
#

Imagine If They See This And Say: Do You Challenge Me? And They Actually Do It.

vivid merlin
#

what

echo bane
storm salmon
#

oh no

#

dont give them ideas

echo bane
#

What?

#

Why?

storm salmon
#

just dont

echo bane
#

Ok

vivid merlin
#

anyway names can sometimes be made up when unknown

#

like mesmile

agile hare
#

Peterson's fathers

hard ingot
#

k

#

lets do a timeline maybe

agile hare
#

yeah

hard ingot
#

think about whats confirmed

#

we need to think about what we know is confirmed and then we might solve stuff we dont know

agile hare
#

HN: H&S; HN1 - Act 1 then Act 2; HN2 - Between Act 2 and Act 3 of HN1; Secret Neighbor - Between Act 2 and Act 3 of HN1; HN1 - Act 3

#

Act 3 House - Dream

hard ingot
#

uh

#

good

agile hare
#

Act 4 Finale - Dream

hard ingot
#

lets solve HN boys

agile hare
#

wth is the ending

hard ingot
#

k

agile hare
#

wth is the HN1 ending

hard ingot
#

so lets go over whats confirmed

#

Neighbors wife dies

#

Mya Dies

#

Aaron is in the basement

#

and...

agile hare
#

Aaron escapes basement and burns the house

hard ingot
#

act 2 is not as crazy as it looks

#

it looks just like act 1

#

just nicky thinks its bigger

hard ingot
agile hare
#

Nicky is on drugs

hard ingot
#

no

#

stop

agile hare
#

Guest is a Goose

hard ingot
#

i want this to be serious

agile hare
#

ok I'll stop

echo bane
#

The Neighbor Had A Good Life Until An Alien Kidnapped Him Or Killed Him.. That Alien Is The Guest.. Maybe..

hard ingot
#

i want to actually try and solve this crap story

agile hare
#

The Thing is wth!?!?!?

hard ingot
#

he drinks coffe

#

sleeps

agile hare
#

Guest isn't human

echo bane
#

Oh..

hard ingot
#

he wares human clothes

agile hare
#

Animals can sleep nerd

echo bane
#

His Sound

hard ingot
#

yea

#

hes NFT

agile hare
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Animals can drink

hard ingot
#

not coffee

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animals cant stand

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i cant english

echo bane
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The Alien Disguised Himself As Mr. Peterson..

hard ingot
#

please no

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dont

agile hare
hard ingot
#

rocket trailer is not cannon

agile hare
hard ingot
#

neither are the SN skins

#

also

agile hare
#

Very human stuff

#

Guest has a tongue

hard ingot
#

guest is NFT

agile hare
#

in his beak

#

wth is NFT

echo bane
#

Thank You For The Sounds

agile hare
#

oh

#

I have all the sounds

hard ingot
#

nft is neighbor for trailer

agile hare
#

yes

#

spam

hard ingot
#

it is

agile hare
#

very very very human

hard ingot
#

thats a train sound but edited

#

you can even hear people speaking (people on the train or waiting for the train)

echo bane
#

Wait Really?

agile hare
#

yes

hard ingot
#

yea

#

if you listen closely you can hear people

storm salmon
echo bane
#

I Heard Maybe Yes Or Something..

agile hare
echo bane
#

Maybe.. The Crows Is What Caused The Guest To Appear?

agile hare
#

guest is a crow on a crow on a crow on a crow

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on a crow

#

on a crow

hard ingot
#

guest is human

#

hes neighbor for trailer

echo bane
#

No I Don't Think He's Human But That's Just Your Opinion.

agile hare
hard ingot
#

the sounds he makes are probs sounds in quentins head because hes going insane because theres a big "bird" chasing him

agile hare
#

big bird

echo bane
#

The Neighbor's Head Is Way To Big To Fit In The Guest's Suit.

hard ingot
#

nah

echo bane
#

It's Way Too Big You Go Check

hard ingot
#

guest is still human tho

#

he drinks coffee

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sleeps on a bed

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does that thing with the apple

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sits on chairs

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stand up like a human

echo bane
#

Maybe He Learned That From Mr. Peterson

hard ingot
#

can throw things