lore-discussion

[old spoke]

He said that the salute emoji makes it seem sarcastic

[vagrant igloo]

yes

[old spoke]

I don't know then. If he ain't supernatural he still appears to have supernatural aspects.

Which is weird if he is only a human

[wanton roost]

It'll probably be explained in the guest episode

[vagrant igloo]

keyword was

[old spoke]

But can someone just explain the shapeshifting part to me then?

[old spoke]

That sounds like hypocriticism

[vagrant igloo]

by saying "was never supernatural" it kind of sounds like he was never intended to be supernatural

[vagrant igloo]

being made of flesh and bone quite literally means nothing

and he did specify the AS

[old spoke]

Jason Voorhees is supernatural and he has flesh and bones.

[vagrant igloo]

my dog is made of flesh and bone

he isn't human

also

think about this

even if the guest was a creature
that doesn't mean he is supernatural

in the hn universe, LUCK CAN LITERALLY BE MANIPULATED

so a bird monster is not out of the question

[old spoke]

Yeah didn't think of it outside of supernatural.

He's still a creature with powers

[wanton roost]

It's hard to tell tbh they still say he isn't supernatural and there will be a guest episode

They keep saying it too so

Maybe the guest episode will tell us

[vagrant igloo]

well
nikita said he never was supernatural (could be interpreted as he was never intended to be supernatural)

and alex specifically said the AS

[wanton roost]

He even said there is nothing supernatural in raven brooks so

[vagrant igloo]

well that is literally just not true

[wanton roost]

After he said "was"

[old spoke]

But ain't every Hello Neighbor content in the same universe. Even if they contradict eachother.

[wanton roost]

Yeah I think

[vagrant igloo]

luck manipulation
weather manipulation

[wanton roost]

It's all Canon so

[old spoke]

So wdym specifically AS

[vagrant igloo]

oh yeah

but then again
if the AS does it's own thing on everything else
why not with the guest too

[old spoke]

Well true. It's basically a mix of the books and games.

[vagrant igloo]

i stand by this

[old spoke]

But i don't get the early 2000's part.

If it's basically confirmed to be in 1996

[vagrant igloo]

it is literally confirmed by alex that the AS takes place in early 2000s

[wanton roost]

Wdym by the guest too tho

[vagrant igloo]

which is why i think it is a retelling

[old spoke]

When

I mean there's so much contradicting that it's becoming a mess.

So Diane died in 1999?

[vagrant igloo]

not really

[old spoke]

So explain to me then how AS is set in the year 2000 if they say that Diane died last year and in the books she died 1995

[vagrant igloo]

did you ignore this

[old spoke]

Did you ignore when i asked that when was it confirmed

[wanton roost]

Why is it that small

[vagrant igloo]

idk

[vagrant igloo]

i can't find the message
but he did say it

[old spoke]

Then it makes 0 sense

[wanton roost]

I mean no one would spread fake news

I'll find it

[vagrant igloo]

which is why i think the AS is just a retelling based on their memories

[old spoke]

Why would change it to the year 2000. There's still gonna be a 7 year gap between smartphones.

[wanton roost]

this is all i could find

a bit later

[vagrant igloo]

like
in the early 2000s
when the kids are a bit older
the AS is a combination of their memories

[old spoke]

When did they have smartphones in Hello Neighbor 2?

[wanton roost]

Season 2 is hello neighbor 2

Or am I wrong.

[vagrant igloo]

the AS did

trinity had one

[old spoke]

Yeah AS, but not HN 2. Alex said that they had smartphones

[vagrant igloo]

he did not specify either

but the AS had them and hn2 did not

so he prob means AS

[wanton roost]

but mayor and leslie were in it and other HN2 characters

Soo

[vagrant igloo]

and?

[wanton roost]

It's just the same

[old spoke]

Do you mean that it's the year 2000? And the shows event actually took place in 1997, but they retell it with more modernised stuff?

Like in the kids memories

[vagrant igloo]

i did not say the year 2000

i said early 2000s

[old spoke]

Which means the year 2000

[wanton roost]

And thats why the AS has smartphones ig smartphones weren't in HN2 but they were in the AS for Some reason and season 2 is hello neighbor 2 so

[vagrant igloo]

no it doesn't

[old spoke]

Well it does?

[vagrant igloo]

early 2000s
means the first bit
of the 2000s

[old spoke]

In the Hello Engineer loading screen Brave has a tablet, doesn't mean that it's canon.

[vagrant igloo]

2000s could mean any year from 2000 to 2999
and i said the EARLY 2000s

[old spoke]

The year 2999 is NOT early 2000's?

[vagrant igloo]

bruh

read my message again

[old spoke]

So it's from the year 2000 forward

It's literally the year 2000

If it's early 2000's

[vagrant igloo]

....
EARLY 2000s
MEANS
early on in the 21st century

that's alll

[old spoke]

So it's prob the year 2001 in the show

Idk then

[vagrant igloo]

smartphones were invented in around 2007 i believe

[old spoke]

I know. But it doesn't necessarily have to be in the year 2007.

[vagrant igloo]

true

my theory
since the AS doesn't fit in
is
in the early 2000s
the kids were thinking back to when everything happened
and they remembered some things wrong
which is why
things are different
than the books
and the games

[old spoke]

That's what i asked earlier.

Well i said that it was the year 2000, but that was a mistake.

[vagrant igloo]

i said this before

[old spoke]

So im confused are the actual events happening in the show when it's 2001-2009 or when it's like the 1990's?

[vagrant igloo]

we don't know
but like i literally just said
i think everything in the as happens in the early 2000s
and it's just a combination of their memories
and they remembered some things wrong

[old spoke]

😂

[vagrant igloo]

???

[shell gull]

It’s very unclear most likely all a perspective thing, the show is mostly from Trinity’s perspective so I’d say she remembers it as the early 2000s while Quentin and Nicky remember it as the early 90s.

[vagrant igloo]

the AS and HN2 being memories also makes sense why Quentin passes out so much
those are just parts he doesn't remember

[shell gull]

Yeah, pretty much everything in HN is all on perspectives mostly and the psychological side of characters, Nicky with his trauma haunting him and memories being distorted, Act 3 being all in his head, in HN2 all the nightmare sequences are from Quentin’s thoughts and feelings as he is so fixated on saving Aaron and learning about the secrets of the Town.

Everything has to do with how each character perceives things, this is even further backed by the original concept of The Nest being a twisted version of the real world all in Quentin’s head, to me it seems it’s always been on a perspective situation.

That begs the question of which character in the lore has the closest perception of the real world?

[manic dirge]

The most accurate to date I would say is Aaron or Nicky’s book trilogy

Trinity’s definitely isn’t due to how she perceives Ted’s house

Or perhaps Quentin

[ripe berry]

Quentin's perspective in what we have of HN2 is what I'd say is the most accurate

HN1 claims 1997 when other sources- including others from Nicky himself claim 1996

HND makes Nicky Trilogy's accuracy more questionable due to Nicky remembering it decades later

and Idk how to classify Aaron Trilogy here

[shell gull]

Yeah, Trinities is definitely least likely since pretty much every other important character we follow sees it as the early 90s.

[shell gull]

I think I agree with that, I also think it’s the most accurate for how events actually play out as well.

[low kite]

One perspective we haven't seen is Mr. Peterson's, as far as I'm aware. Maybe the Hello Neighbor Movie will tackle his perspective of the story.

[shell gull]

Possibly yeah.

[unkempt sleet]

i still dont think the perspectives arent whats going on, at least mostly

Because some things just isnt able to be explained with that

Like how Aaron is friends with Trinity even before Trinity came to town in her perspective

im just going with same canon but different continuities across media until they decide to give an actual explanation

[shell gull]

Yeah but we also see from Nicky’s perspective in the show how words become scrambled the more his mental state worsens so he’s the least likely to have a good perspective.

[unkempt sleet]

i meant Aaron Trilogy (Aaron's perspective) and the Show (Trinity's perspective)

considering with the perspective theory

[shell gull]

Ohhhhh

Yeah true, it’s definitely weird.

[wanton roost]

I hope everything can be put together well somehow

I don't know what they mean about the AS does its own thing

[stiff spire]

True

[sick bone]

Hello @stiff spire @wanton roost @shell gull

[shell gull]

Uhh…hello?

[sick bone]

İ want talk lores

[shy siren]

Ok @sick bone

I'll talk lores

I think I have a decent understanding of the lore

Also wheres the Aaron's perspective?

[ripe berry]

what do you wanna talk about?

[shy siren]

I have alot I wanna talk about

The guest

I'm honestly really confused

Is he supernatural or not

He shape-shifting in the vr games

But nikita said he was never suoernatural

[sick bone]

İ think Season 3 will say New thing about Guest

Guest is franklin + aaron i think

[midnight cedar]

https://tenor.com/view/hello-neighbor-hello-neighbor-guest-quentin-gif-14367060730949469270

true

The timeline of HN is so mixed up. I don't know which games are canon or not!;\

[jagged mist]

No

He is not supernatural

In the VR Games, it’s all illusions and dreams

hes not actually shapeshifting

[shell gull]

I doubt that theory, The Guest isn’t super natural (Even though he also kinda is with certain things) but I doubt The Guest is two people, Aaron doesn’t make sense, Franklin is a maybe.

[shell gull]

We don’t know for sure on stuff, though it could very well be perspective things, thing is that would also mean the Rescue Squad all have the same perspective with The Nest and such which is weird.

[silver vine]

How is this chat so alive

What lore is there to talk about

[severe vine]

I like reading this channel before I go to sleep. There's plenty to talk about.

[brisk hearth]

I know he didn't exist at the time but why didn't the guest never attack nicky in the books since he had so many chances.

[wanton roost]

I think it's mostly just predicting for now on

[obtuse wedge]

You kind of have the answer in your question

[brisk hearth]

I mean in universe

[vale topaz]

He was eating lunch

[brisk hearth]

What was he eating?

[chrome maple]

human flesh

[ripe berry]

The guest as we know him, if the AS is reliable at all, doesn't exist in it's current form at that time

HNVR is an exception due to being in the Guest World or Dark Dream or whatever it's called

[unkempt sleet]

Dark World

[vagrant igloo]

dark guest dream world

[wanton roost]

dark foggy guest dream world

ngl we need more guest world

[shell gull]

Dark guest nest world outskirts

Is the most I can use to give it a name.

[stiff spire]

Ngl I’ve always found the nest world interesting in HNVR definitely one of the most coolest things in the franchise in the games

[shell gull]

Was originally supposed to be the distorted world of HN2, wish we saw it more in the games.

[stiff spire]

Me too

imagine if it comes back in HN3 in some way I think that’d be cool but idk

[shell gull]

I think HN3 will most likely leak into the psychological side like the past main games knowing that’s what Nikita enjoys to make for the story in the franchise, so it could definitely return maybe.

[vagrant igloo]

will we ever see the guest lair I wonder

if it still exists

considering it's from hg times

[late jackal]

This kind of random but is the hello neighbor books Canon

If so I don't like how Mr Peterson acts

[wicked heath]

Yes

[wicked heath]

He’s deranged

Like he should ve

[late jackal]

I just never thought of him to act like that. I never liked to think of like that was like think of him like he was normal guy till his wife died then he became the deranged

[wicked heath]

The man was fully aware theres murderous cult trying to kill him since he moved in Raven Brooks

I’d be on the edge too if I were him

But i get what you mean

Between his book depiction and the way he was portrayed in Hide&Seek, its pretty different

[late jackal]

Hold up are you basing your information off the show?! I'm just saying that because like nowhere in the games It says he's getting hunted down by Cult (at least what I know of)

[wicked heath]

Books and show are canon

And in both of them, theres a cult on his back

[late jackal]

Hold up the books and show is cannon like to the game

?

[wicked heath]

And we have Hello Neighbor2

[wicked heath]

Okay see thats where things get complicated

We were told that « everything » was canon to the games

They just didn’t tell us how that makes any sense

And they said to just wait a bit

For Hello Neighbor 3 and season 3

[late jackal]

Ohhh ok

Thanks for the information

[wicked heath]

Yes, I too am not a fan of this kind of cliffhanger they left us on

[wicked heath]

No problem

[vagrant igloo]

not fully. he randomly has crazy out of it moments. like when he tells maritza he made lucy fly

[stark spade]

its sad when you realise why mr peterson locked his son in the basement

he lost almost everything he loved to where he became mentally unstable and overprotective of his son, to the point where he locked his son in the basement to shield him from the real world

and nicky (us) was locked in the basement with aaron since the neighbour was so paranoid of anybody finding out about his family tragedy

he's not a villain

he's just broken

[wicked heath]

He’s a villain with a backstory

[wicked heath]

Actually, he kidnapped Nicky to give Aaron a friend and make an example for the other kids. Which is a pretty evil motive

[stark spade]

he lost his wife and his daughter, talk about trauma

[amber sonnet]

ok but when is it ever said that he kidnapped nicky because of aaron being alone

[unkempt sleet]

Buried Secrets

Book 3

[shell gull]

HOW have I missed this, if everything is supposed to be revolved around perspectives, we see in AS S1 Ep 6 when Nicky says “I’ll be your friend, your best friend” after being trapped and traumatized in the basement, I am pretty sure he’s referring to Aaron as he’s the only other person who was down there with him, which would explain why from Nicky’s perspective which is twisted in times he believed Aaron was his best friend while in Raven Brooks.

[wanton roost]

I think aaron also wearing same mask

[shell gull]

Yeah, I think this heavily implies that Nicky did in fact twist his memory from trauma and Aaron was never actually his friend, he just distorted it.

[wanton roost]

Yeah cuz when he escaped his head was big same size as that mask so mask I never read the books but pretty cool that's connected

[shell gull]

Mhm.

[wanton roost]

Thought ths devs said they'll be fine just like nicky

Not devs

Or idk mb

It's probably either a joke or real

[vagrant igloo]

stupid AS ruining the lore

[shell gull]

I mean it’s very obvious to be the case but AS is still its own set of perspectives, we see Nicky’s and Trinitys and others so we still don’t have a valid turf of perspective with it.

[vagrant igloo]

you forgot tho
that act 1 is NOT a memory and is happening in the moment
and act 1 lines up with the books
implying Nicky WAS actually Aaron's friend

[eager ivy]

Also in season 1 the writing is normal because nicky wasn't traumatized and in season 2 it starts to get more and more misspelled and distorted

[silver vine]

What the hell is going on

[wanton roost]

lore

[wicked heath]

Book3

[ripe berry]

problem

Hello Neighbor Diaries

there is an unhandwavable photograph of Aaron and Nicky together in HND

[sick bone]

Bro just say nonsense now

[ripe berry]

this can't be due to distorted memories

this can only exist if Aaron and Nicky ACTUALLY knew each other at some point
and there's literally 0 points in the timeline where this photo can work outside of before AS Episode 1

During AS Season 1: Aaron's in the basement, photo appears to be outside
Between AS Season 1 and 2: Aaron wouldn't still be missing if that was the placement
after AS Season 2: Nicky's no longer in RB

(however I'd say Nicky having brown eyes instead of blue here is due to lack of communication between the teams, as it's using his HN1 Model as a basis, besides it's something minor enough that it can reasonably be ignored)

[stiff spire]

Yeah

[ripe berry]

like-
the photo itself had to be thought about by the devs to have made the art
but the design of Nicky in the photo being wrong for the time it was meant to be taken was probably not even a thought in their mind

[ripe berry]

What if Trinity's perspective doesn't involve Aaron because she wants to forget about the GAAP incident, and that's why the events of Aaron's Trilogy are somewhat being fused into the Waking Nightmare-HN2 Time Period in AS, she instead imagines herself as moving in after Aaron's already missing (so that way she doesn't have to acknowledge Aaron), Lucy Yi is simply missing instead of dead, and Aaron only has cameos.

[shell gull]

True.

[shell gull]

That could make sense actually…

[ripe berry]

the problem there is why is Trinity ok with remembering some graphic things but not Aaron/the true GAAP Incident

[shell gull]

True, I don’t see why of all things she wouldn’t want to forget Aaron from the events, same goes with the other characters seeing how they also don’t seem to mention Aaron or Mya from their perspectives, Maritza doesn’t even seem to have any implication of being friends with Mya and Lucy from her perspective.

It doesn’t make sense as to why they would just forget them.

[ripe berry]

yeah...

[ripe berry]

"act 1 lines up with the books"

Act 1 is split across two days and happens during a storm in the books

perspectives seems to both be the correct answer while at the same time having the most weirdness to it

like- the Guest

the Guest is clearly already existing in HNVR

but won't exist in his current state until AS Season 3

or what source is more reliable

[stiff spire]

didnt act 1 in the books happen at night rather than in the day

[ripe berry]

because we got like several sources for the same events
Act 1, Book 3, AS Ep. 4
Act 2, HNVR, AS Ep. 6

[ripe berry]

yeah I think

[stiff spire]

Ah right

have we gotten one where the books took place in act 3 I dont think we did

would've been cool if there was i would've liked to see how the books would've handled it

[ripe berry]

closest we got is Reset Day, which the math indicates occurs in 2021

[stiff spire]

Yup

there has been talks in the works after the movie comes out we'd be getting more books

it would be cool to have another gn and another novel would be nice

[ripe berry]

and when the sources all contradict each other, how are we meant to be able to reconcile it when we have to play mental gymnastics to verify an event even occurring

[stiff spire]

true

I'm glad that Nikita came and told us everything is still canon but everything is very confusing to understand since we don't have any explanation as to how everything's canon

[ripe berry]

like- above I had to pull out a photo from HND to prove Nicky even knew Aaron and wasn't just misremembering things

(assuming the perspectives thing is correct)

[stiff spire]

yeah

I find it sad at first that Nicky wasn't the main premise of the AS, but rather Trinity but I would like to believe the perspective theory makes sense a lot

I mean the AS is still enjoyable in its way

[ripe berry]

not to mention having to basically guess on which sources are "closer to reality" then others

[stiff spire]

True

hn has always been interesting lore wise you would think that its about "oh break into your neighbors house and find out what hes hiding" but goes more than that in depth

[ripe berry]

like the only things we know are 100% accurate are HN1 Act 1 and the scenes of Adult Nicky moving into his house in HN1 Act 3 and Finale (and the intro to HND by proxy) because Nikita told us that

and RD + HN3 probably I guess because nothing else even reaches those time periods

perspectives makes the most sense but is also the most annoying to even try to make theories using

[stiff spire]

Yeah for sure, I wonder how and if HN3 will tie into GN2 since GN2 takes place in 2021 and HN3 is confirmed to take place in (correct me if I'm wrong) 2028

right?

[ripe berry]

especially since Alex has alluded to it a few times
#secret-neighbor message
#hello-neighbor message
#hello-neighbor message
#hello-neighbor message

[stiff spire]

so theres like a gap

[ripe berry]

GN2 has a ambiguous timeline-placement

it can be any time between 1996 and 2021

[stiff spire]

interesting

never took the time to go deeper more into the hn lore but I have dug deep a bit like Nicky was always a lonesome kid until he moved to raven brooks, made friends, and lost them basically Raven Brooks has been a wild game changer for him ever since he moved in

[wanton roost]

theres 1 thing I'm looking forward to

Will there be new books

Or novels

[stiff spire]

Yup

#hello-neighbor message

[ripe berry]

only reason we know this is because it has to come after Ted escapes jail but before Reset Day

I personally believe it comes right after Hello Engineer's main campaign but before HN2 Patch 9 or HE's Sandbox Mode.

[wanton roost]

That's cool!

[stiff spire]

Speaking of HE, its kinda strange the game claims the kids started the inventors club but in the AS its ran by a teacher

Mr. Murtaugh

there has to be something idk

[ripe berry]

it could be like- both

the kids start the club

but the teacher made it an official school club

[stiff spire]

Yeah makes sense in that way

would be sick if we got a murtaugh mention in a hn book or a game

[ripe berry]

or no wait

actually

Murtaugh dies in AS Season 2 and the club is shut down

but the kids remake the club

(because gotta account for the club existing in ~1953)

(the club existed when Theodore was a kid)

[stiff spire]

Could be i like that one

[ripe berry]

plus it gives Murtaugh an actual legacy of sorts.

[stiff spire]

Agreed

I still find the scene sad in the AS, Ivan really looked up to Murtaugh as a role model wish we could've gotten more bonding with them both

[versed yacht]

Some schools require clubs to have an adult sponsor it so that could probably just be it

[ripe berry]

(including in 2019?)

[ripe berry]

that's was kinda what I was getting at

[wanton roost]

Not after martaugh gave him that B+

[stiff spire]

Oh yeah that one lol

bro needed to study more

[ripe berry]

my current timeline under the idea of perspectives:
1984: Bosco Bay
1991-1992: Aaron Trilogy
1995: [-Missing Pieces, -HND, the HNHS Launch Trailer, -HN1 Nightmare Sequences, and HNHS], -Waking Nightmare
1996: [-Buried Secrets, -AS Eps. 1-4, and HN1 Act 1], -AS Ep. 5, SN Launch Trailer, [HNVR, -HN1 Act 2, -AS Ep. 6], HN2 DLCs, -AS Season 2, -AS Season 3, HN2, Layout V2 Vid, Hello Engineer, Raven Brooks Disaster, HN2 Patch 9, Hello Engineer Sandbox, -+Secret Neighbor (mix of memories, latest memories in SN are from the storm period of the timeline so it comes after, but I don't know how to even list this game)
circa 2008: +AS
2017: +HN1's Nightmare Sequences, +HN1 Act 2, HN1 Act 3 and Finale, [HND, +Missing Pieces, +Waking Nightmare, +Buried Secrets, +HN Movie (possibly)]
2021: Reset Day
2028: HN3
(Minuses are for what I think are distorted memories, and pluses when in the timeline those memories were actually recalled, brackets are to group things happening at the same time)

[eternal chasm]

do you guys think my pet bird plays a part in the lore

[brisk hearth]

Don't mean to spoil your dreams but...

[wanton roost]

It's just impossible

[amber sonnet]

what was the original message there

[wanton roost]

He was just asking if he can play a role of nicky in the movie

[amber sonnet]

oh

like thats ever going to happen

[wanton roost]

unless if someone here is an actual actor which I highly doubt and his some Age like 12 or 13 then maybe

But nnnoo

Who would suit acting as nicky though

[amber sonnet]

imagine chris pratt as nicky

specifically the one from act 1

because that would look really funny

[wanton roost]

that'd be crazy

[vagrant igloo]

I should dye my hair brown and apply fr

[wanton roost]

You'd fail

[dreamy sluice]

jack black plays nicky roth, obviously

[wanton roost]

You know what

That could work

[stiff spire]

I could see the kid from the minecraft movie play a young Nicky Roth

[wanton roost]

Nope

[inland folio]

no no no no no

jamie foxx obiously

[ripe berry]

"I... AM NICKY."
"and for all of my life, I've YEARNED for the Basements"

[stiff spire]

oh these dudes they're the neighbors they love

idk

[vale topaz]

locking kids into basements

[stiff spire]

Yeah

[twin light]

cinema

[ripe berry]

"Crow and Bar!"
"The GAAP!"
"Crow Jockey!"

[wanton roost]

Keys and locks!

The mayak...

Coming in basement

Please pick jack

[stiff spire]

first we hello then we neighbor

[eager ivy]

🗣🔥🔥Keycard and crowbar THE BASEMENT

[wintry hill]

nonono

[wicked heath]

This is the house of a very special neighbo-or

[wanton roost]

big ol crow ones

[potent harness]

"I... am Raven Brooks."

[stiff spire]

I was stuck like a kid down in the basement til you came along

I don’t wanna be running from neighbors for the rest of our lives

[onyx ivy]

is wtrb canon?
You may think this is a stupid question but its because, if hello neighbor takes place before phones were made and allat, then why does maritza have a phone in wtrb. Also what does the ceo of hn percieve wtrb to be like it. Is it not canon but has similarities?

[vale topaz]

Yes because "everything is canon but not in the way you're thinking" or something along those lines

[ripe star]

I think some of what happens could have happened in the games timeline but overall it's not canon

you could just say certain events from the show happened similarly in the games

[vagrant igloo]

it is indeed canon
which is why I choose to believe this #lore-discussion message

[marsh idol]

this guy a bum

while HN isnt sci-fi, i forgot whats the explanation for the bad luck coins?

[jaunty onyx]

So I was rewatching WTRB and I was thinking:
Why is Aaron happy about GAAP? In the books he was worried about it n stuff

[onyx ivy]

[gusty flint]

We should get a large (very large) GAAP

like, its own map,

[glacial whale]

It’s just one of those random changes because it’s the AS

[left fern]

THEORY THE NEIGHBOR IS THE GUEST

[inland folio]

F

you failed the test

[left fern]

explain this

[inland folio]

he doesent know

thats the old hn2 story line i think

the new hn2 storyline

the neighbor is not the guest

the guest is its own entity

[left fern]

well hn2 never released so it couldnt have changed

[inland folio]

wdym hn2 never released

its on steam

[left fern]

what

i thought it didnt realse

[inland folio]

its been out

for 2 years dude

actually 3 years ago

we are already on hn3

[left fern]

this is just an alpha

[inland folio]

search hn2,

search hn2 right now.

its there you can buy it

[left fern]

what is this

they butchered the game so hard

[inland folio]

listen hn2 is not bad

its actually very decent

even more then decent its alright

[left fern]

ok youknow what im gunna buy it and tell you what i think gng gng

[inland folio]

i also dont like the artstyle but thats not gonna do anything

[inland folio]

ok

it takes a long time since theres a bunch of stuff

[left fern]

ok

[inland folio]

i meant gameplay-

[left fern]

I know

[left fern]

what thee

[inland folio]

yeah thats the neighbor in the game

hes weird

[left fern]

since when was the neighbor apolice man

@inland folio

[inland folio]

thats not the neighbor

this game has a bunch of neighbors

mayor police man

baker

then after that you get to the neighbor scenes

there are 2 of them

i think

then theres the guest scene

[left fern]

why so many locks

[inland folio]

secret spooky

[left fern]

the house looks diff

ima watch a tut

why is there a t posing neighbor

@inland folio whats the code

[inland folio]

you ahve to find the code

in the map

also thats a doll

[left fern]

oh ok

[inland folio]

its for a puzzle

better get that doll

[left fern]

is the code 1984

[inland folio]

i think the codes random

[left fern]

what happend to that big basement

[inland folio]

budget cuts/j

[left fern]

why is the neighbour under my bed

[inland folio]

because hes the neighbor

hes crazy

[left fern]

who is that and is that the cat from hn2 alpha 1

[inland folio]

thats the baker

another neighbor you have to get past

[left fern]

ooh

i threw paint at her and she mad

[inland folio]

you can do that to every single neighbor

[left fern]

wheres her basement

[inland folio]

she doesent have a basement

you need to get into a safe i think

for the key

[left fern]

is this floating key supposed to be here

[inland folio]

no

probably a bug

[left fern]

who is this

[inland folio]

neighbor dude

its the neighbor

actually

why does that screenshot look so cool

[left fern]

ima troll him with the fire thing i found by flying around i recognize it from hello guest

hey theo im flying over you wit ts fire thingy

uhhhhh @inland folio i was flying in his house with this and went through the roof and im here what do i do

[inland folio]

i dont think your suposed to be there

thats the place where the final boss triggers

[left fern]

oh so do i restart'

[inland folio]

find a way back

[left fern]

i restarted and it tok me to this cutscene

[inland folio]

i have not watched alot of hn2 gameplay

so i dont know much

[left fern]

ok wait im looking at the cameras and does this man have a gun

[inland folio]

thats another neighbor your gonna face

hes more annoying then the others

he will try to shoot you to slow you down

[left fern]

weird

HE SHOT ME

[inland folio]

told you

[left fern]

whos this guy

@inland folio

[inland folio]

thats the mayor

warning his dog is cute

[left fern]

cool

brufghrughrughru

it took some time but i made it here again @inland folio

[inland folio]

congrats

[left fern]

nnow what

[inland folio]

i don know

find the key i guess

[left fern]

hes not catching m

e

@inland folio lol

[inland folio]

hn2 ai is really goofy

which is why i like hn2

[left fern]

hes so damn fast

i forgot to send these but is this aron

@inland folio

[inland folio]

yes

[left fern]

he looks different

oh hell naw

@inland folio

[inland folio]

congrats you just beat hn2

now go do the guest part

[left fern]

damn

[inland folio]

only one of the 2 scenes where i felt bad for the neighbor

[left fern]

which one

[inland folio]

first one is the one from the first game

where the neighbor is stuck behind a door with the thing next to him

i felt bad for him

oh yeah i just realised this

actually no it was stupid what i was about to say

[ripe star]

every family photo in my grandparent's house looks like this

[fickle garden]

Does Mr. Peterson have hammerspace? Because he kinda has infinite tomatoes and glue.

[ruby patio]

Mayorfacehelloneighbor2freedownloadwithoutviruswithoutregistrating.com

[ruby patio]

Mr. Peterson got a big pocket with Glue, Tomatoes, and bear traps (oh and milk :3 )

[inland folio]

no he just has an infinite milk supply

im jealous of him

man has infinite milk

[ruby patio]

https://tenor.com/view/team-fortress-2-tf2-meet-the-soldier-soldier-meet-the-team-gif-5973890219255947351

Milk ATTACK >:OOOO

[amber sonnet]

he just grows tomatos in his left pocket, stores his infinite box of beartraps in the same pocket and has his glue producing machine in the other pocket

[marsh idol]

hide and seek?

[inland folio]

nope

one is the end of hn2 where the crow thing fals over the neighbor

the second one is when he was trapped with the thing next to him in hn1

[marsh idol]

no i’m saying you didn’t feel bad for him in hide and seek?

[inland folio]

naaah

havent played it so no

i dont feel bad for him in hide and seek(i dont know whats about i only know theres a cops and robbers level)

and a graveyard i think

[marsh idol]

i guarantee you hide and seek has the more emotional scenes then any of the ones you listed.

actually

watch the hide and seek trailer

[inland folio]

ok

[dreamy sluice]

it's exclusively cutscenes where anything interesting happens imo

(pretend that didn't @ you, i didn't see the time)

[ripe berry]

just look up the cutscenes

[wicked heath]

Yeah this is a complaint I have abt this

[ripe berry]

question: do we label the HN Showcase Pre-Stream as one of the "canon until something replaces it in the timeline" things like with Layout V2?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c8iml-S-DsA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_3UfsSin0TI

[ripe berry]

(have to use two links because the "Full Livestream" cuts off before the end of the pre-stream)

[frigid pumice]

has anyone written full lore until now of hn?

[unkempt sleet]

i mean there's not much to it anyway isnt it? it's just Theodore hanging around until the police comes iirc

That happens regardless of the showcase

unless i forgot something else that happens in it

[ripe berry]

only thing I can think of is MitH being seen watching Ted's House...

which he's known to do due to SN

[vagrant igloo]

if it's just an out of bounds Easter egg
in a game that happens in the kid's head's
is it really canon?

[compact crag]

Yes it is in hn2 alphas and in sn I'm pretty sure that's not a kids imagination

[vagrant igloo]

alphas aren't canon for one

and you actually aren't telling me you think the SN events are things actually physically happening 💔

[compact crag]

I mean they have to want to do something with him if he is in all the alphas for hn2 and hello guest

And they put him in sn

[vagrant igloo]

Easter egg

very obviously

[compact crag]

In hello guest he is a big part at the end cutsceen

Ik that's not cannon

But why even bother with him if he's not

[vagrant igloo]

they had a whole scrapped story line with him

things changed

[shell gull]

He is canon, he’s dead in HN2, Quentin was his replacement as a Journalist.

[tiny verge]

wait man in the hat is dead..?

how

is this some kind of random detail..?

[tiny verge]

I think it was back when Hello Guest wasn't meant to be a Hello Neighbor game

[vagrant igloo]

hello guest was always hello neighbor

[tiny verge]

I don't think it originally was meant to be

pretty sure Alpha 1 of Hello Guest does have the cut Peterson model where he's apparently the Guest but

that was a retcon I believe of an older idea which I feel HN2 kinda brought back, just expanded

and it also was retconned too

[vagrant igloo]

hello guest

not to mention hg has the mayak

[tiny verge]

yeah I'm sorry but that doesn't actually make it inherently a Hello Neighbor game

their concepts were fundamentally different

[vagrant igloo]

this

[tiny verge]

I'm not sure what the mayak is

[vagrant igloo]

...

like the entire story
kinda revolves around it

[amber sonnet]

hello guest lore literally had the neighbor as the guest how would it not be hn

[tiny verge]

there's two public versions

the prototype, where everything was alot more unfinished

[vagrant igloo]

hg literally happens in the gaap

[tiny verge]

and the alpha 1

but I'm talking about the development history mostly

[amber sonnet]

but the prototype had the mayak

[vagrant igloo]

yea

[amber sonnet]

and mayak is like the hn lore buildng

[amber sonnet]

being revolved around in hg and then hn2 alphas aswell

[vagrant igloo]

hg was always the hn sequel

[tiny verge]

I don't think that'd make it fully count tbh

would it be canon..? sure yeah

but still as a game itself the concept is different

[amber sonnet]

as a natural evolution mayhaps?

[tiny verge]

it'd be like calling Captain Toad a Mario game

[vagrant igloo]

...
are you telling me that
even though hg revolves around the mayak
the center point of the lore
it isn't hn

[amber sonnet]

from what i understood he said that the game concept and gameplay is not close enough to a hn game

[tiny verge]

yes

that

[amber sonnet]

which like

[tiny verge]

obviously it was always apart of the franchise but

it was still it's own game too though

[amber sonnet]

cmon

[tiny verge]

I doubt it

[vagrant igloo]

so is every HN game kinda

[tiny verge]

you can't call it a Hello Neighbor game if it's not really in any way involved with that home invasion aspect

when they actually started calling it Hello Neighbor 2, I feel that they realized they actually do need to bring that back

and yeah I don't consider Hide and Seek to be like HN1 or HN2

[amber sonnet]

hello engineer isnt a home invasion game yet it has lore

[tiny verge]

it's also it's own thing that's just canon

[tiny verge]

but it's also called Hello Engineer, and is clearly a spinoff

[amber sonnet]

hide and seek was just like the fnaf logbook but for hn

[tiny verge]

and yes spinoff games can have the same level of quality as mainline games

[amber sonnet]

yeah but it did kinda tie in with hg’s story in some aspects

like just because a mainline hn game doesnt have you breaking into a house

doesnt mean its too far away from a hn game

[tiny verge]

we're not considering Hello Engineer a mainline game

you can't make me

[amber sonnet]

talking about hg

[tiny verge]

I don't consider it mainline either

[amber sonnet]

before it became hn2

if it had been expanded into a full sequl

[tiny verge]

it's still different enough to be it's own thing within the franchise

again, that Captain Toad comparison
but here's another one, the Mario Kart games and the Sonic Racing games

[amber sonnet]

no but like

maybe the developers didnt want a sequl game with you breaking into neighbors house again

[tiny verge]

Sonic Racing I may focus on a bit more because they're actually canon to the Sonic games
they're spinoff games too like I consider Hello Guest, but they literally have a new one coming out that's Triple AAA price

so HG probably was gonna be a spinoff

still it's own game

with a good budget too

[amber sonnet]

no words

[tiny verge]

because spinoffs clearly can be as high quality and be as important as the mainline games

[amber sonnet]

its called hn2 pre alpha now for a reason too

[tiny verge]

yeah because it's DEVELOPMENT changed

[amber sonnet]

because it was meant to be the big sequl

[tiny verge]

the project shifted into Hello Neighbor 2

[vagrant igloo]

hg is mainline

since it is the HN2 pre alpha

[amber sonnet]

because they couldnt do something as big as hg

they had to scale it down

[tiny verge]

but it did not start out that way, otherwise it wouldn't have been called Hello Guest to begin with

[amber sonnet]

would it have been better if it was called hn2 during hg then?

[vagrant igloo]

it was always intended to be the HN sequel

it was called hello guest because

the roles are swapped from hn

you are the "neighbor"
guest is a "visitor" aka the intruder

[tiny verge]

no, that'd just create confusion for it

[vagrant igloo]

that's also why he went back and forth from being guest and visitor

[amber sonnet]

thats why they didnt call it that

instead calling it hello guest

because youre saying hello to the guest in the sequl of hello neighbor

and since at that time the guest was the neighbor

[vagrant igloo]

yeah

[amber sonnet]

it’d be like a progression of hn

instead of saying hello to the neighbor you say hello to the guest whos the neighbor

which wouldnt make sense if the game was a spinoff

[tiny verge]

Alpha 1 yeah, but I don't think the prototype actually intended for Peterson to be the Guest

which basically means Peterguest is very short lived

[vagrant igloo]

in hn1, you are the guest
visiting the neighbor
hello neighbor

in hg, you are the neighbor
getting a visit from the guest
hello guest

[amber sonnet]

natural evolution

[amber sonnet]

and what makes you say that exactly

how do you think the guest isnt peterson in the prototype

[tiny verge]

the Guest was designed to be like those myth creatures

[amber sonnet]

considering in the prototype he had ties with the mayak

which peterson also does

[vagrant igloo]

I forgot what they're called

[amber sonnet]

so you would think theyre one of the same

[tiny verge]

so atleast in the prototype, that's how I believe he was meant to be
and prototype wasn't that developed in terms of lore

sure there's the Mayak

but that doesn't mean there was lore in the prototype

or atleast very developed lore

[vagrant igloo]

oh yeah
schnabelperchten

[tiny verge]

so most of the Hello Guest lore comes from the Alpha 1 of Hello Guest

and then it all got scrapped once the project became Hello Neighbor 2

[vagrant igloo]

hgp had some lore too

[tiny verge]

some

keyword, some

[amber sonnet]

yeah it did

[tiny verge]

but it's like with the Prototype of HN1
and I wouldn't exactly say that it had developed lore either

[vagrant igloo]

hg alpha 1 had some
keyword, some
aswell

[amber sonnet]

with the theme of 3 kids going into a forest iirc

[amber sonnet]

in hgp

[vagrant igloo]

neither had finished lore

[tiny verge]

Pre-Alpha to Alpha 1.5..? sure

actually no

I take back Pre-Alpha

but that's kinda how I see the Hello Guest prototype lore

not really developed, the next version is obviously more developed as the game was developed more entirely

[vagrant igloo]

same lore between hgp and hg somewhat right?

or are they different

[tiny verge]

most of the Hello Guest lore wouldn't come from the prototype

that doesn't mean they're different

but that also doesn't mean that you can really say that Hello Guest always had the lore in the prototype

[vagrant igloo]

I didn't say it did

[tiny verge]

it simply just means that most of the lore is from Alpha 1
it can be applied to the prototype because it's obviously a more developed version of the prototype

and that Peterguest

probably was an Alpha 1 idea

[tiny verge]

where Prototype was just doing this cause that was the Guest's concept

at the time

[amber sonnet]

or an hgp idea that got expanded on in alpha 1 and 2(?)

[tiny verge]

I can't really see that being the case

if you want my honest opinion about it

game development reasons

[amber sonnet]

like what if it just wasnt displayed well in hgp yk

but when the game progressed in devlopement so did the story

[tiny verge]

that'd be like saying the old HN1 lore was developed in the prototype, but didn't get displayed

prototypes are prototypes for a reason

[amber sonnet]

the prototype was just for gameplay

[tiny verge]

yeah

[vagrant igloo]

yea

[tiny verge]

literally what I just said

[amber sonnet]

you could say something similar to what i said regarding pre alpha though

because it had a bit of the devil story sprinkled in there

[vagrant igloo]

Nuh uh

[tiny verge]

and you don't just create lore for the prototype either
maybe some ideas but... is that literally not what the Guest's concept was..?

the idea of this weird myth creature

it obviously was expanded in Alpha 1, but not in that way you'd expect

even though it was cut, that cutscene was basically trying to expand on that idea
but it instead made it to where the myth creature really is just a myth

does that mean the prototype actually planned that..?

because if so, then I could actually see why HN2 ended up so badly

you can't just develop lore for a gameplay prototype, focus your resources on that first

alphas are one thing since they're more developed

but an early prototype is an entirely other thing

so no I don't consider Hello Guest a mainline game
never said I considered it uncanon, but I consider it the same way I do with a Sonic Racing game (mostly the Triple AAA one that's come out)

especially since I don't like the idea that spinoffs can't be as high quality, or high budget, or even as big as a mainline game

they're simply just expanding the franchise's world in different ways

[tiny verge]

also i meant the "prototype was just for gameplay"

cause that's what I've been arguing the entire time

well not entire time, but once we got to the prototype discussion yeah

[vagrant igloo]

I missed that then
this whole time I just thought your argument was just that hg wasn't originally hello neighbor

[tiny verge]

like mainline

[vagrant igloo]

even tho it totally was

!!!

[tiny verge]

your whole reasoning is that "it's a sequel" or that "it's canon"
but that just discredits spinoffs

[vagrant igloo]

being a sequel would make it a mainline game

cuz it's not a spinoff

[tiny verge]

Hello Guest as a sequel game that delved into, let's say, urban legends of Raven Brooks

[tiny verge]

then we, my friend, clearly have very different terminologies for game franchises

which we can not really argue about

I don't consider sequel or prequel games to immediately be mainline if the gameplay is different enough
and yes, reversing the roles infact is different enough

but if you consider them to be mainline games, we cannot argue

it'd just be pointless

so I think we should just agree to disagree

especially since the main thing that really started this is Hello Guest isn't even canon anymore, we already agreed on that
also quick edit, if someone involved in Hello Guest's development comes out to say that I'm wrong then I'll eat my own words, I'll literally print out screenshots and eat the paper

[tiny verge]

still though I'd like to know how the man in hat is dead in the HN2 lore

[vagrant igloo]

grave, patch 9

oh nvm

you said how

mb

[tiny verge]

no no I meant like

how the game revealed it

I didn't clarify but

yeah that answers my question

[vagrant igloo]

yeah

[tiny verge]

that's something I do need to work on, I word things pretty badly

[vagrant igloo]

when patch 9 first released the grave wasn't closed
which meant it wasn't an out of bounds Easter egg

[tiny verge]

man that sucks though, they could have atleast just repurposed him to fit a new role

[vagrant igloo]

yeah

[tiny verge]

I mean I guess they did do that

but just not in a way that feels as cool as making him a new HN2 character

or even just apart of the cartoon

whatever I guess

[vagrant igloo]

technically he has like 3 frames

[tiny verge]

well I mean with a role

that's cool though

I like how the cartoon also references some of Tiny Build's other stuff too

even though I hadn't really grown up with their other stuff I still always respect when a company respects other things they own, especially when it's a reference in their bigger franchises or even a first party collab

[ripe berry]

yeah the prototype just had some rough ideas that weren't really stitched together properly
HGA1 is the first attempt to stitch the ideas into a cohesive storyline

and then HN2A1.5 is the next one we know anything about the storyline for

(we know bits and pieces of HN2A1's plotline but not much)

[stiff spire]

Prototype of HG was interesting like the ending i liked the way we had to get to the ending to ride the coaster, smash the Mayak open with a ride

that was fun

[chrome maple]

I loved (and still do) the hgp music

[stiff spire]

I love the good ending music

especially the echoing chorus

How it starts like nice and calm and then later like all dramatic and creepy

[shell gull]

Killed by The Cult.

[ripe berry]

I don't think he ever died

when do you think he dies timeline-wise

[compact crag]

Yeah I'm pretty sure he is not dead just removed from the game ngl

[vagrant igloo]

grave in patch 9 forest confirms death

not just Easter egg

upon patch 9 release the grave was open

and not just an out of bounds Easter egg

[stiff spire]

Would've been cool to know what he would've done if they had completed hn2 hes gone through so many alterations

in HG he was some boss man who bought the park who recruited Beatrix and Quentin to find the Mayak to (probably gain profit out of it)

HN2 we dont know much of what he would have done maybe he would've been some reporter

But i suppose it is what it is but I think they made him into some reporter

we do see him in the AS though so they hadn't forgotten about him

[ripe berry]

because here's my problem
the tapes are pushing his death onto the boundaries of what is even reasonable IF he dies

because

the White Tape pushes his death to AS Season 3

which MIGHT be occurring at the same time as HN2

[ripe berry]

I think the dead MitH is still an easter egg because they sealed it back up

COULD it have lore significance? maybe
but I'm not sure

[ripe berry]

and depending on the Guest's Origins we might only have a few hours window for MitH to die

Green Tape confirms the Guest existed before MitH died

Guest, in it's current form, will only begin to exist in AS Season 3

same with Blue Tape

(Although the Church mixed with Blue Tape does still imply MitH's death...)

because even now
you can't tell me the Purple Tape seemingly taking place in a segment of the Catacombs, Blue Tape having MitH/MJ taking pictures of the Guest from a higher place, and then at a higher place in the Church from the floor where the Catacombs are you can find a random hat that has no reason being there isn't trying to tell us something

said hat being the exact one MitH wears

[ripe berry]

because he has to die before Day 1 of HN2

[ripe berry]

what is the deal with the Green Tape's existence anyways?

[silver vine]

Y'all still talking about ts?

We literally do not have anything new. Y'all just keep talking about the same stuff over and over again

[ripe berry]

yeah...?

[silver vine]

Btw hi

Long time no see

[ripe berry]

'ello

[ripe berry]

hey, sometimes it can result in new findings ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[silver vine]

I literally still can't understand how this chat is not dead

[silver vine]

Ehhhhhhhhh

I feel like we've already found all that has to be found

[fickle garden]

What about the secret fifth act in HN1?

Where you have an epic anime battle after the Neighbor goes super saiyan.

[ripe berry]

then again
we still dunno what the Green Tape means

we may have FOUND everything but we don't know what it MEANS

[vagrant igloo]

so am I the only one who found the secret level where you have to become a Chihuahua and blow up the neighbor's house 3 times to collect 275 keys to unlock your closet door in order to get the pinkish-brownish-blue key card in order to open the fridge and set breakfast?

[shell gull]

While the time he dies can be stretched I presume he died before Quentin arrived, as the point and reason Quentin even ends up investigating in RB is because he got transferred.

[ripe berry]

AS alone makes that impossible

Quentin's already in RB in S2 Ep. 3

MitH's still alive in S2 Ep. 4

[sick bone]

You just hater

[wanton roost]

https://tenor.com/view/snoop-dogg-buzz-lightyear-skull-skull-emoji-dance-gif-75288921643871910

[night sky]

Does anyone know what that music is in season 2 episode 4 when Trinity calls and Crowface is there? I need it

[wanton roost]

we dont have any OSTs for wtrb sadly

we really need some thoguh

[ripe berry]

if MitH dies it'd have to be after AS Season 2

[sick bone]

İt a lie

You fake telling

[vagrant igloo]

no
it's a joke.

duh

[sick bone]

İt lying

[vagrant igloo]

...

[vale topaz]

It's true i actually got it

[sick bone]

Stop ragebait

[vale topaz]

You just have to stack every box of all levels in a tower on top of the grave

[vagrant igloo]

plus you gotta fling the neighbor out of the map

that's an important step

[wanton roost]

https://tenor.com/view/meme-gif-4654060345501150810

[sick bone]

SHUT UP

You ragebait

[brisk hearth]

They're just joking

[chrome maple]

Please never change karvilax

[vagrant igloo]

why are you only yelling at me

[inland folio]

congrats your special

your the only one he hates

out of every other person that was in this "argument"

[vagrant igloo]

peak

I feel so honored

[wanton roost]

until now i dont know how youdont understand what a joke is

[sick bone]

İt Donkey joke

İt no funny

[wanton roost]

?

it doesnt need to be funny

[sick bone]

İt ragebait

[wanton roost]

how is it ragebait bruh

your the only guy thats mad

[sick bone]

İt ragebait me bro so if it ragebait me if it rage bait one person just one person it mean it ragebait jonah just ragebait every time every day i gues

[wanton roost]

its a j o k e

if uhateit

ignore it

[sick bone]

İt can joke and ragebait same

[fickle garden]

The truth is Karvilax is ragebaiting you.

[wanton roost]

that doesnt changethe fact about ignoring

[wanton roost]

for like months

its not considered ragebaiting anymore

[fickle garden]

Karvilax is just cool and epic like that.

[wanton roost]

https://tenor.com/view/hello-neighbor-hello-neighbor-2-guest-hello-neighbor-guest-hello-neighbor-2-guest-gif-7613282570154061268

[sick bone]

Brother Man i want talk

Lore

Not jonah stupid ragebaits

[sick bone]

Thank you man

Yes i am Cool and Epic i gues

[wanton roost]

there is no new lore ig we just talking about oldlore that hasntbeen explained

[sick bone]

Bro everything canon

[fickle garden]

Have we ever figured out who the guest is yet?

[sick bone]

Bro it aaron x Franklin for me teori

İt 2 soul in one body

[fickle garden]

You could've just said "and"...

[sick bone]

Bro but it no like this

İt mix

Like how mans put few fruits to juice (apple watermelon btw) and then say it mix juice not just one like apple juice just it like literal mix

[versed yacht]

Karvilax secret fruit juice recipe

[vagrant igloo]

someone else made the same type of joke before me
but you don't care about them

[sick bone]

İ not see

Man

[vagrant igloo]

..

they replied to the same message

[sick bone]

OKAY

[warm hollow]

istg if i could tell the hello neighbor story and cast actors in the game gng the game would change forever bro

i would remake all the game

and make it so that all are connected

[warm hollow]

BRO ID KILL FOR A REMAKE OF ALL THE GAMES WITH VOICE LINES AND CONNECTED

[warm hollow]

I feel like the guest was a creature who was a "god" said by the forest protecters and the cult js wear the other crow beasts skull

[clear lynx]

Bro ik for a fact you dont know anything about unreal engine

[silver vine]

what green tape?

[silver vine]

wait, he was in AS?

honestly Ive never rewatched the AS after its initial run at all, not even once

which is crazy since I used to constantly rewatch S1 a lot before S2 came out

[vagrant igloo]

only for a few frames

[silver vine]

show

[silver vine]

show me

[vagrant igloo]

gotta find it rq

[warm hollow]

i know unity tho

[warm hollow]

welp i never said i wanted to mmake the game of them

i said i would tell the dev

welp ik for a fact your to dumb to understand stuff

[inland folio]

no

if there is voice acting

then the game is just spoon feeding you the lore

[vagrant igloo]

maybe i was wrong

i can't find it

[vagrant igloo]

@silver vine https://youtu.be/zK8s7ZAng1Q?si=owPHadjszTtUwyKB&t=36

[warm hollow]

it would be good ngl

[inland folio]

no

[warm hollow]

instead of needing A game therost to get u lore

im nott saying to give the full lore

im js saying for cutscene

[inland folio]

mat pat barely made 3 videos on hn

[warm hollow]

ik

[inland folio]

2 of them were outdated

[warm hollow]

this is how we dont even know the story

[inland folio]

you can just go and scroll up

in this channel

[warm hollow]

no what i mean

[vagrant igloo]

but we do know the story

[warm hollow]

ik

im saying that this is why the story is kinda confusing

[vagrant igloo]

but it isn't

it's like really laid out

[warm hollow]

ok so ur telling in hn 1 the last time we saw the neighbors house it was big nott act 3 big act 2 and then in hn 2 the house is the same as hn 1 act 1

and also we saw the neighbors house burn

in hn 1

its back in hn 2

[vagrant igloo]

act 3 is a dream

well the house part

[warm hollow]

so him moving in is a dream

[vagrant igloo]

hn2 is directly after act 2

[inland folio]

act 2 is a distoreted memory

[vagrant igloo]

the part after he goes to sleep to when he wakes back up is the dream

[warm hollow]

ik

[vagrant igloo]

hn2 happens before his house burns down

[warm hollow]

so act 3 is not cannon

[vagrant igloo]

it is

[inland folio]

it is what

[warm hollow]

it takes place after act 2

[inland folio]

no

act 3 doesnt take place after act 2

act 3 takes palce in 2017 i think

[vagrant igloo]

...

[warm hollow]

this is why the lore is confusing

[inland folio]

and act 2 in like 1996

[vagrant igloo]

ok ok

so

basically

[inland folio]

buddy your confused im not confused

when were talking about hn lore

[warm hollow]

the game doesnt tell us the lore

lets be fr

it doesnt

[inland folio]

ok you

are something special

[warm hollow]

wym bro

the game doesnt tell is the storyy

except from

hide and seek

bfr bro

[inland folio]

the story

is in front of your eyes

is it that hard

to just look

[vagrant igloo]

ACT 1 - 1996
not a dream
not a memory
everything is actually happening

ACT 2 - 1996
nicky's memory
a bit distorted

ACT 3 - 2017
nicky moves back home
goes to sleep
dream stuff
wakes back up

HN2 - 1996
same day of act 2, beginning directly after nicky escapes

HND - sometime after act 3
nicky looking back

AS - sometime in early 2000s
basically a retelling of the act 1 and 2 events through different perspectives

HIDE AND SEEK - date unknown (i think)
the neighbor's lore

HE - no idea personally
no idea personally

RESET DAY - 2021
neighbor house been rebuilt
nothing to do with hn1 and hn2 lore

HN3 - 2028
separate storyline from hn1 and hn2

SN - sometime during act 2
happens in the rescue squad's heads

HNVR - during act 2
retelling of act 2 from different perspectives basically

[inland folio]

at what nicky is doing

[inland folio]

yes

[warm hollow]

give me one part in the hn 1-2 the game is a story

[inland folio]

is it that hard

[warm hollow]

bro im talking abt the neighbor story

the back storys

[warm hollow]

ooooooooh

so thats why

hm come to think abt it tiny build is smart for doing this

[inland folio]

bro.