lore-discussion

[versed yacht]

Yeah

[onyx ivy]

he says he sees a “shadow”

and in his room

we see shadowman

like here

[versed yacht]

And I mean tbf the AS has always kinda done its own thing so it was probably either just a mistake or something they did exclusively for the show

[onyx ivy]

yeah fair

[eager island]

as is how Alex CEO interprets the lore

as he mentioned it few times

[onyx ivy]

one question

why does it ever say in the books that the thing might be beyond our comprehension or smth

or guidebook

not like novels

[eager island]

the guidebook is notorious for being filled with incorrect or outdated information

[onyx ivy]

ohhh

people like to use the argument that the thing is physical and real because apparently he takes the form of the neighbor in secret neighbor or smth

[glad hornet]

https://youtube.com/shorts/DX1kn49PvXQ?si=3vcuI83BJ8ho-JbP

[last loom]

"Hello, does anyone know if there's an English collection of Hello Neighbor graphic novels that comes with a poster?"

[unkempt sleet]

no i think

its probably something exclusive the russian publisher of the books did

[alpine rock]

so like, does earth pro ever get explained more in the books after the nicky trilogy ends?

[eager island]

we know they are still standing in 2021

[onyx ivy]

does someone have the hello neighbor guidebook currently

[gloomy temple]

one of my friends do. what do you need?

[gloomy temple]

this is like with the FNAF books...I think they had posters as well. strange to see this image, who even is that girl?

[chrome maple]

probably someone from the books

havent read them so idk

[last loom]

?

[chrome maple]

quentins probably dead

[unkempt sleet]

they are not canon anymore probably

because GAAP still stands

EarthPro's whole purpose of existence in the story was to remove GAAP

yet it stands in HE and HN3

[chrome maple]

earthpro???

[unkempt sleet]

company that bought the land of GAAP and removed GAAP in Book 3

[chrome maple]

i really should read the books

[unkempt sleet]

theyre good

[chrome maple]

ive heard that they are

should you start with book 1?

[unkempt sleet]

yep

[chrome maple]

alr

[round hatch]

I really like book 1

it’s short but good

[chrome maple]

guess i gotta get the books

[round hatch]

you can get a bundle of the first 3 on amazon

[chrome maple]

ok

[last loom]

Does anyone know what it is?

[unkempt sleet]

that just looks like a knockoff coloring book

[civic bramble]

It's a normal books with dust jacket

I think

[vagrant igloo]

no

[last loom]

Ок

[gritty skiff]

Imagine if the historian is agrandmother of Theodore

[pale urchin]

Something feels peculiar

[unkempt sleet]

HN fans when they see old woman

(something feels very peculiar)

[pale urchin]

Hn fans when someone theorizes two characters being the same (they think that person is high or something)

[unkempt sleet]

What similarities there are other than them being old women

Even their professions are different

[chrome maple]

beeg nose

[eager island]

are they related

[chrome maple]

yes

cuz brid

bird

[pale urchin]

Their outfits have a descendant yet similar style

[junior grotto]

Guys, I think I have a Theory...

[wicked heath]

Holy crap hes onto sth

[lucid crystal]

Coming soon HG modded on IOS full OG iOS map but different objectives

[stiff spire]

won't you be my neighbor

[onyx ivy]

nvm

[pale urchin]

Is that not enough to make my theory exist?

[tired spindle]

okay so i have a question (Book lore) when did enzo and martiza mom died? like what year?

the book didn't give her enough lore 😦

[chrome maple]

they died???

[covert leaf]

WHAT

[last loom]

It's fake?

[eager island]

no

[vagrant igloo]

layout v2

[marsh idol]

correct me if i am wrong

but they were never said to be dead

[eager island]

they did

[tired spindle]

the book lore? said she was dead?

[chrome maple]

i havent read the books so idk

[tired spindle]

this is in the 4th book

aaron's pov ish

but how did she die tho 😦

[chrome maple]

they changed so much in as lmao

[tired spindle]

ik bc why just why did they make her alive in the show? It's so annoying so i only follow book lore

[chrome maple]

its probably best to listen to the books

[tired spindle]

yeah

but they barely included her 😦

[chrome maple]

i really should read the books\

[tired spindle]

only little snippets

[tired spindle]

it's good i recommened! the first 3 is nicky's pov. the other 3 are aaron's! the last one is in the future. that photo was in book 4 bad blood by aaron pov

[chrome maple]

the only one i have is bad blood

[tired spindle]

that's good at least u have a book!

[chrome maple]

which is probably not a good book to start with

[chrome maple]

yeah

i havent finished it yet tho

[tired spindle]

no i think it is! bc aaron moved in before nicky so you're catching up on the other lore

[chrome maple]

oh yeah

[tired spindle]

people do usually read book 4 first

[chrome maple]

i forgot abt that

[tired spindle]

then 5, 6 then 1,2,3

the covers are so good

[chrome maple]

real

[tired spindle]

especially bad blood bc i love mya's design

this the only time we seen mya in the covers other then book 6

[chrome maple]

she looks so scare

d

[tired spindle]

yeah

[chrome maple]

i also love how theo looks

[tired spindle]

yess and book 6 he is the clown in the cover like a ref to secret neighbour

love how the books keep the games in their lore ish

[chrome maple]

arent the books basically the original lore before hn2 and as

[tired spindle]

yeah - carly anne west I LOVE YOU so much for making these books

but i hate when they changed the lore so much. like wydm trinity is here instead of nicky moving into town and i feel like we should have gotten one of those jax scenes where like she asks him if he has any actual friends and someone tells her not anymore idk bc he lost aaron

i wish that they had like revealed nicky was against mr peterson bc he wanted to find aaron

but this is fanfic lore for me then lol

[chrome maple]

as lore sucks

like wdym they have smartphones???

[tired spindle]

yeah like why...

it's like the 90's right?

[chrome maple]

yeah

[tired spindle]

they use those old phones

[chrome maple]

they could literally just have given her a camera

but no

[tired spindle]

like enzo

but they gave a camera to finch

[chrome maple]

a security camera with film...

[tired spindle]

yes

[chrome maple]

its so weird

[tired spindle]

i feel like they kind of skipped important parts bc idk

[chrome maple]

and the inventors club saves nicky from the basement instead of aaron

[tired spindle]

i wish we could have gotten a book on that like in martiza's pov

how they met finch, delory and ivan bc i feel like they brought ivan up and changed the lore so the three could make their way into the show

[chrome maple]

is the rescue squad even in the books?

[eager island]

well hn2 suits with book lore

[chrome maple]

i guess

[tired spindle]

no i don't think so really

[eager island]

not all of em

just trinity enzo maritza

[last loom]

It's fake

?

[chrome maple]

yes

[tired spindle]

yeah. i feel like they adjusted the lore a bit to fit in ivan, finch and delory

[frigid pumice]

if u want to read it chronologically thats a good book to start with

[chrome maple]

I know

I for some reason though bad blood was the last aaron book

[wicked heath]

Its the first?

[chrome maple]

its the first aaron book, which is chronologically before the nicky trilogy

[frigid pumice]

Chronologically its the first hn comic then all aaron books then all nicky books then the 2nd comic

[chrome maple]

comic 1? do you mean graphic novel 1?

[frigid pumice]

yh

[tired spindle]

i feel like raven brooks kids would hate roller costers after lucy's death

[last loom]

It's a payol logden park

[last loom]

However, in the second prototype, there is something strange instead of a guest statue

[last loom]

Does anyone know what year the books and games about the neighbor are set in?

[chrome maple]

i think hn1 is around 1996

[eager island]

h&s 1995

hn1/2/sn/s&r/he 1996

[covert leaf]

im assuming the second game takes place before act three of the first game because there is no way that aaron just didn’t age so that would mean that adult nicky was in ravenbrooks after the second game. So would he have been around when the town became what it is in the third game?

[vagrant igloo]

hn2 happens directly after act 2

[covert leaf]

Sweet, thanks for clearing that up

[azure skiff]

bruh HE does not need lore

its the banjo kazooie nuts n bolts of the hn franchise

[chrome maple]

does it even have lore lmao

[azure skiff]

oh they were talking abt when it took place mb

[covert leaf]

Please no

[chrome maple]

i tried playing the he demo but just no

[azure skiff]

fr

[covert leaf]

Its awful

[azure skiff]

its so jank

[covert leaf]

I like to forget it exists

[vagrant igloo]

it's like
half canon
half not

hopefully mostly not

[chrome maple]

what even happens lore-wise in he

if anything

[azure skiff]

ted getts addicted to cars ig

[covert leaf]

Hopefully

[chrome maple]

Be careful!

[azure skiff]

piss

oh thats a new one

[covert leaf]

Ted has fun trying to stop little kids from making a car to win a competition

I guess

[azure skiff]

💔

[vagrant igloo]

basically

[covert leaf]

Bro has no life

[vagrant igloo]

what else he gonna do

just sit in the museum

all day

everyday

[chrome maple]

eat chinese food and watch tv

thats his whole life ig

[covert leaf]

Either that or he was hiding something in the amusement park that he didn’t want the kids finding

[brisk hearth]

He has a long attention span

[vagrant igloo]

very long

he is entertained by looking under tables and sitting

staring at fire is very fun

[chrome maple]

i love watching under tables for fun

[vagrant igloo]

oh yes

not to mention constantly looking at the broken glass on the floor

such fun

[chrome maple]

he does that??

[vagrant igloo]

I hope he has more normal tasks in hn3 🙏

[chrome maple]

ive never seen that

[chrome maple]

i hope he'll cut the grass like hn2 alphas

[vagrant igloo]

he doesn't look at it per say but he constantly goes and stands on it and looks around

[brisk hearth]

Better avoid Nicky the fun devourer

[covert leaf]

Or standing inside fences

[chrome maple]

inside???

[vagrant igloo]

what

[covert leaf]

He buggs into fences a lot

At least in my play throughs

[brisk hearth]

HN1 I presume?

[covert leaf]

Yeah

[chrome maple]

i have never seen that

[covert leaf]

It happened to me like five different times

[chrome maple]

probably cuz i never see him

[covert leaf]

I had to reset because it felt cheesy to beat the game with him glitched

[vagrant igloo]

or infinitely hopping 5 feet into the air over and over from a standing position slowly moving throughout the town

[covert leaf]

LMAO yeah

[vagrant igloo]

this is all lore fr

[chrome maple]

has anyone seen theo look up at his house in hn1 act 3?

[brisk hearth]

Yes

[chrome maple]

ive seen it only once in like 5 years

[vagrant igloo]

no but I've seen him push the invisible wall and cry on his porch

[brisk hearth]

Same

[chrome maple]

him pushing the wall was LONG ago

it feels like they removed that or someting

[vagrant igloo]

If you play on Xbox like I used to it happens very very frequently

[brisk hearth]

No

[chrome maple]

hn on xbox one is peak

[vagrant igloo]

I never knew how annoying his vacuum was 🙏

[chrome maple]

yeah

the vacuum sucks

(literally)

[vagrant igloo]

we need smth like it in hn3

[brisk hearth]

The net launcher

[chrome maple]

oh god

[tired spindle]

i wish we could of have gotten like more diane moments in the game

[vagrant igloo]

i wish they would release the full model

[tired spindle]

the 1st book gives us like diane in nicky's pov before she died

[vagrant igloo]

we've never gotten her head 😭

[tired spindle]

yes but we seen her face

[vagrant igloo]

duh

but i want the head model

[tired spindle]

here u go

the only head model we have

she also smokes in missing pieces (the book lore) when nicky first met diane

[vagrant igloo]

IK
but i want that model
its never been in one of the games

[tired spindle]

i once saw someone use the thing to go higher and higher and diane didn't have a head

[vagrant igloo]

her head model isn't in hns

so thats why

[tired spindle]

i wish the book lore gave like a rescue squad book where they met finch, ivan and delory

[tired spindle]

yeah

she looks better in the book lore bc i feel like it shows she's also guarding the family secrets too

[vagrant igloo]

AHH

i didnt know she looked like that in the books 😭

i hate it

[tired spindle]

in missing pieces. she's on the newspaper bc she died

we do get a lot of diane in aaron's books

[frigid pumice]

game/ as version is actually wayy better from the book, when i was first reading missing pieces i got confused when i saw her lookin like that

[tired spindle]

but i feel like she looks more like canon. like it looks like she has eyebags and stress bc of her past

[vagrant igloo]

she doesn't even look like diane

😭

[frigid pumice]

i havent finished the books like im in waking nightmare so yh ik nothin abt her past

[tired spindle]

bc its grey and white bro

[vagrant igloo]

no

because
her face
is entirely different

[tired spindle]

idk which came out, but i believe it doesn'r matter bc they changed their lore all the time

[vagrant igloo]

frickin-
nooo
the book came out in august

it came out before hns 😭

[tired spindle]

oh

[vagrant igloo]

is time travel here out of the question

[tired spindle]

most people don't really read the books or they prob didn't see the diane face. but they are always changing the lore..

[tired spindle]

time travel happens everywhere. i feel like hello neighbour made a another au with nicky and trinity swapped

[vagrant igloo]

the AS is the main thing that changed the lore

i personally just dont count the AS as canon

because if it weren't for the AS the lore would still make some sense

[tired spindle]

i hate when they changed the lore so many times WYDM enzo and martiza mom is alive? WYDM nicky and trinity were swapped. WYDM they were now in a inventor club and ivan was here. WYDM martiza is now a jerk instead of the determind sad girl who lost her best friend mya

[vagrant igloo]

if it weren't for wtrb 😔

[tired spindle]

then i hated it WHEN they changed her skintone. she was black in the books. a picture in missing pieces has her black right. now she's white which makes no sense

[vagrant igloo]

..

what

[eager island]

its not about lore

[vagrant igloo]

you mean maritza

[tired spindle]

yeah i spelt the name wrong

[eager island]

there was probably no specific appearance for Diane when the book was written

[vagrant igloo]

cuz
she was never black

or white

[eager island]

thats why the author of the book created their own design

[tired spindle]

there was one. when she died and was on the newspaper

[tired spindle]

she was black bc there's a photo of her in dark skin

[vagrant igloo]

she is mexican

[eager island]

she has dark skin in nicky trilogy

but white skin in aaron trilogy

[tired spindle]

why did they change her skin?

[eager island]

and then again dark skin in reset day

[tired spindle]

it makes no sense

[vagrant igloo]

they are color blind 🤷‍♂️

[tired spindle]

i hate when they always mix up the lore

[eager island]

well probably her canon skin is white

[vagrant igloo]

i hate it when maritza has the unique ability to change her race at any given moment

[eager island]

since hn2 has that photo but white skinned maritza

lucy mya maritza

[tired spindle]

the photo in book 1 - shows her black bc under it said (middle=lucy left=mya right=maritza)

[vagrant igloo]

see
this is the ONLY time the AS makes sense

[tired spindle]

yeah but they changed her persona

[vagrant igloo]

yes

[tired spindle]

she is more like of a jerk and plays soccer now?

and enzo no longer plays basketball

and she doesn't wear her bracelet which would have been a cool design

[eager island]

no seth and reuben

[vagrant igloo]

the AS is just a collection of their split personalities

trust

[tired spindle]

in the 2nd book. he joined them and left i think (pls don't make me go looking in the books)

[eager island]

yes

[tired spindle]

i remember him asking nicky if he wanted to join

[eager island]

there was theories that theyre ivan and delroy iirc 💀

[potent harness]

that's definitely the easiest way to put it

[tired spindle]

why do they change so much tho- ima gon cry. this is why i stick to one lore- the books

[vagrant igloo]

wait

have we ever even seen seth and reuben

[eager island]

no

[vagrant igloo]

what do they look like 😭

[eager island]

but we know their appearance

theyre both dark skinned iirc

[tired spindle]

nope... but i view seth as heather th red one

[eager island]

and gelled hair

[tired spindle]

yeah i hc them as dark skinned, black hair and brown eyes

[tired spindle]

gelled hair

[vagrant igloo]

ngl
i never thought about it
and in my mind i just pictured ivan and delroy 😭

[tired spindle]

no mention of hair colour or any eye colour

[tired spindle]

i feel like delory would have joined or smth

[vagrant igloo]

i pictured reuben to be delroy

and seth to be ivan

idk why

[tired spindle]

hmmm.... idk delory hates nicky so wouldn't ruben just like.. pick on nicky?

[eager island]

tbf delroy joins the team is so forced in AS

[tired spindle]

i feel like the devs just did that to carry the lore of the three kids in secret neighbour....

[eager island]

not the devs

[tired spindle]

oh

I js called them devs

[eager island]

none of the hn development teams work at AS

[eager island]

its alex actually

[tired spindle]

then what do i call the people who work on the show

[tired spindle]

okay so alex it is

[potent harness]

The show crew

[eager island]

its a plot hole

tbf

[tired spindle]

always i felt alex altered the lore bc there was no lore about ivan, delory or finch so he dragged them all in

[eager island]

now let's see how Finch will join the team

[tired spindle]

why didn't carly anne west just add a extra book of martiza pov into the book and let them meet delory, finch and ivan- NVM I'M GON WRITE THAT

[tired spindle]

she prob will be enemies with trinity

i need someone to talk hello neighbour lore with

[tired spindle]

i wish ivan was in the books tho 😦

bc i felt like it be cool if Enzo had met ivan and nicky also had someone who can make stuff just like him

[unkempt sleet]

too bad ivan, delroy and finch dont exist in the book universe

[tired spindle]

i wish they did. that's why im making a fanfic of martiza pov like - call it the forth book where i add in the rescue squad and all of that. or maybe trinity, enzo povs too

book lore bc i love book lore

[torn flame]

hello neighbour

[tired spindle]

why do i believe nicky would say that? lol

i kind of wish we got a mya's pov book too idk might be fun to see what was she thinking during book4 and 6

[shell gull]

The OG squad in the books felt like it made the most sense as a group, too many people all together felt off.

[unkempt sleet]

they couldve showed them at least a few times without adding them to the squad for the whole story

[eager island]

i mean they probably didn't even exist when the book was written

atleast the first one i guess

[unkempt sleet]

first one is understandable

but like 5 more books

[gusty flint]

The Mayak station has a weather machine built in the 1900s that lets them controll the weather

[tired spindle]

their tons of lore in the books about it. ||apparntly mr peterson's parents own it- i don't know if it is right bc it's 5am rn and i'm not bothered checking||

[ripe berry]

correct!

[tired spindle]

yeah. but i felt like they should have included franklin and lisa in it too 😦

[winter kiln]

Hello

Emm

Where can i talk with nikkita

Im new

[silver vine]

hi

[tired spindle]

this is for lore discussion only

only lore is disscussed here

[glacial whale]

You think Lisa is scrapped or just wasn’t brought up

[dusty trench]

Nothing was scrapped in the lore. Like Nikita and Alex have said and implied many times before and confirmed, everything in hello neighbor media is canon to each other. Nothing was retconned or changed, just eleaborated on in a unique way to add more symbolism and metaphorical storytelling into HN to further add to the depth of the story.

I feel like for the people who are interested in the HN lore or are fans or new comers who are confused sbout the lore, read this message all the way back down to this one. From this wall of text has to me sparked a new discussion for the lore of HN and I feel like alor of theorys and thoughts have been said starting from this discussion alone. And I love the lore of this series and wnat the discussion to keep going afterwards.

[glacial whale]

Yea I forgot about that but I remember reading the books and then the AS wasn’t connecting with it well and I’m sure there’s some reason for that but it became way to complicated for me to keep up with the various changes or differences. I guess it also didn’t help that it’s never fully explained or gone into in games or in media why this is the case other than just “mayak will explain everything” that Nikita or Alex once said. I’m not asking for a massive lore dump and getting rid of the mystery but they could at the least point to it in a game or whatever else could do that.

[tired spindle]

she was in the book lore when martiza and nicky called her bc they were mya and aaron's relatives but it's strange. they didn't mention her in the book lore.

but i'm getting sick of having to adapt to all new lore 😦

[unkempt sleet]

lisa was just a plot device that was used one time and then never mentioned again

even in Aaron trilogy where we learn so much about Theodore's past, she's not mentioned even once

[tired spindle]

its sad bc i would include lisa in there. to create more lore. i hate when people skip out on the lore

like why just include her once? weird

like ms tillman. she wasn't even brought up until freaking book 7. she had bits and clips. and i also feel like enzo and maritza mom wasn't included enough bc it was mentioned she died in the book when enzo was really young but never how she died

[unkempt sleet]

tbh ms tillman wasnt an important character other than book 7

[tired spindle]

yeah

i hate when they throw away charaters like that

she was like this angry woman in book 1 and book 4

then never mentioned again 😦

[carmine meteor]

Are they gonna continue lore in hello neighbor 3

[wicked heath]

Yeah? Of course

Its the sequel

[tired spindle]

more lore to connect

[fickle garden]

Lore, why would they ever add that?

[charred pendant]

Is it confirmed that Aaron and nicky are friends in hn wtrb?

[honest meadow]

Yeah

[eager island]

no

he probably doesnt even know aaron

in AS

[vagrant igloo]

the AS doesn't even mention them being friends 😭

[tired spindle]

idk bc i never see them together. i feel like it would be cool to found why Nicky cares so much about the petersons

[carmine meteor]

Nicky and Arron are friends you can see it in the diary game for hello neighbor

[carmine meteor]

Yeah

[vagrant igloo]

or the books

the books revealed their friendship before the AS or hnd

[eager island]

hnd is basically books lol

[vagrant igloo]

yeah

[wicked heath]

Or more like ONE book

[vagrant igloo]

hnd is more like

a summary

[eager island]

well it meant to be tell the nicky trilogy but yk

[wicked heath]

Are they gonna continue this game

[vagrant igloo]

doubt it

[eager island]

tB likes releasing unfinished games and abandon it due to obv reasons

[eager island]

i mean

team got fired

[wicked heath]

Fantastic

[eager island]

and it happened more then one year ago

[wicked heath]

Cash?

[eager island]

yep

[wicked heath]

✨

[lone grotto]

[silver cargo]

The cost of the game was probably too high already.
It was perhaps financially better to release the game in this unfinished state.

[tired spindle]

yeah

the lore is confusing so everyone got make their own au

[ripe coyote]

Whats canon and what isn't. I own ever game and book and I need to know please!

I've deduced that the guidebook is probably non canon, the show is definitely non canon but maybe parts of it are? And Hello Engineer probably is not canon

But idk please help me

[eager island]

everything is canon

[eager island]

(guidebook, nog simming, AS pilot episode not included)

[ripe coyote]

Bro

How is the show canon

[eager island]

idk

its what they say

[ripe berry]

unclear

[willow depot]

And alphas/betas neither

[tired spindle]

we can all agree the lore is confusing

[obtuse wedge]

Not as FNAF lore but yeah

[vagrant igloo]

very

I blame the AS

[tired spindle]

mhm

[sick bone]

AS? Wydm?

[vagrant igloo]

"animated series"

[sick bone]

Do you mean Hello Neighbor Welcome To Raven Brooks the Hello Neighbor TV Show

Wydm?

[vagrant igloo]

yes

that

wtrb is the AS

[sick bone]

No

[vagrant igloo]

yes?

[vagrant igloo]

wdym no

[round perch]

a Hello Neighbor remake would be lowkey a good opportunity to rewrite 90% of the lore

the franchise keeps on...changing every time

[vagrant igloo]

it's a remake
not a, remaking the entire series lore in one game

[round perch]

Remakes usually involve rewriting lore

[vagrant igloo]

uh huh.

[round perch]

or retconning stuff

idk

Hello Guest was a big opportunity to reboot the franchise but they just turned that into Hello Neighbor 2

[vagrant igloo]

an HN1 remake would just be hn1 with slightly new gameplay and visuals

[round perch]

Hello Neighbor 3 seems to be another soft reboot

[round perch]

prob yeah, idk i just wish they rewrote the franchise

[vagrant igloo]

hello guest was just a test
they were constantly changing the game throughout development

[round perch]

at one point it was Rumble of the mill or smth

[vagrant igloo]

the lore makes sense if you ignore the AS

[round perch]

i thought it wasn't canon what

aw nah

[vagrant igloo]

it is 🥀

[round perch]

god damn

i lowkey don't like the AS

its cool that they gave peterson a brother from the one portrait in the alphas but thats it

[vagrant igloo]

it's fine
I wish that
they had it make sense

[round perch]

yeah

fnaf lore vs HN lore, which is more confusing

[vagrant igloo]

cuz the AS somehow takes place in early 2000s

which

like

what

[round perch]

thats just a lie like what

how

not even they know🥀

[vagrant igloo]

it's an excuse for their mistake of adding a smart phone

[round perch]

smh

do they know its ok to make mistakes

well....nvm

they already made a few too many

[vagrant igloo]

if the AS wasn't canon the lore would make sense 💔

[round perch]

i legit thought it was like its own universe

why is it Canon

hell

[vagrant igloo]

nope
Nikita debunked the multiverse theory

if you look at the AS
it logically takes place between act 2 and HN2
butttt
since they accidentally gave Trinity a smartphone
the AS now somehow takes place, after.

[round perch]

bro

a smartphone did this

[vagrant igloo]

yep..

[round perch]

didn't nikita write the show?

[vagrant igloo]

no lol

absolutely not

he only worked on hn1, HNS, the HN2 alphas, and hn3

[round perch]

ah

[wicked heath]

Thats what happens when the creator of hn is just one guy at Dynamic Pixels

[fickle garden]

I don't know how you can get confused by HN's lore.

[unkempt sleet]

what does that mean

are you saying he shouldve been multiple guys?

[wicked heath]

Im just saying that its one guy at DP, and meanwhile tB are doing bunch of stuff with the franchise

[charred pendant]

What version of nicky roths design do you guys prefer? Hn1 or s&r

[vagrant igloo]

snr Nicky should not even be an option

he is the worst thing to ever happen to the HN series

hn1 Nicky is the only choice

[charred pendant]

Fair point

What about hn1 or wtrb nicky?

[vagrant igloo]

wtrb Nicky is just Nicky with goggles
he's also not an option

[feral pumice]

Why did Nickys eye color change in wtrb? First it was like teal then turned back into brown like how it was originally

Was there a reason for this? Is it like symbolical

[vagrant igloo]

nope

his eyes are brown for the same reason Trinity has a smart phone

continuity errors

[feral pumice]

Ohhh

[versed yacht]

It's not a continuity error

His eyes change because of what happened to him in the basement

It's not really a logical irl thing, just kind of something they did as symbolism to show how the basement really screwed him up

Smartphones aren't a continuity error either, it's been made clear that the choice of adding smart phones was intentional

[vagrant igloo]

no no they were a continuity error

that's why they changed things so now the AS "takes place in the early 2000s"

[versed yacht]

That's just not true though

It was an intentional decision to include them, and they moved the timeframe of the AS up to fit that, that's not a continuity error

If it were a continuity error they wouldn't have moved it up intentionally to fit in the phones

[vagrant igloo]

moving the timeframe up itself is a continuity error

because Nicky, Trinity and all of them are kids

so it couldn't possibly work normally in the timeline

[vagrant igloo]

yeah
they moved up the time to make up for the phone error

[versed yacht]

Intentionally, which means it's not a continuity error, it was an intentional choice made

[vagrant igloo]

he never said in those images that smart phones were originally an intentional thing

he said they intentionally moved up the time frame

[versed yacht]

He said that they have smartphones and that the time was moved up to fit that, which literally just means that they decided to do smartphones and move the time frame up to work with that

Which is an intentional choice

[vagrant igloo]

even if the phones isn't an error

the time frame is

[versed yacht]

If it were a continuity error they wouldn't have acknowledged that the story is different from the books, which Alex does say

[vagrant igloo]

or are you gonna say these kids just don't age

[versed yacht]

If we're looking at the story from the perspective of one straight timeline without acknowledging the differences then there is literally 0 way to piece anything together because everything is canon

Saying that the time gap being different doesn't work because in the Aaron Trilogy Aaron is the same age he is in the Nicky Trilogy

They've done it before, they'll do it again

[vagrant igloo]

literally
without the AS the lore makes sense

[versed yacht]

Then why is Act 1 different in Book 3 than it is in HN1?

Nothing lines up perfectly in this franchise and it's always been like that

The AS is different because it's an adaptation, it's not going to follow the same exact story 1:1 with no changes

It's the same with the books

[vagrant igloo]

HNS, act 1, SN, S&R and Act 2, HN2, act 3, HND, hn3
we don't know when HE happens from what I know

[vagrant igloo]

I mostly meant the games

[versed yacht]

Even then, HN2 and HNVR don't like up

Aaron is seemingly taken at the end of HNVR by the Guest, and while it could be chalked up to Theodore taking him and running away, that wouldn't make sense because Act 2 still has to happen

[vagrant igloo]

a lot of Hnvr is dreams

[versed yacht]

I don't think they're really just dreams, but that's a whole other can of worms that I don't want to get into

That also just doesn't make sense because of HNVR's ending having Aaron literally wake up in the real basement to free Nicky

[safe charm]

Nowhere cause it isnt canon

The alphas and beta of the games arent canon

Just final releases

[shut hill]

https://tenor.com/view/no-disappointed-smh-shake-my-head-oh-brother-gif-6826525774079143920

[lone hatch]

Better question

Is Devgamm canon

real

[sick bone]

Shut up

Youre not funny

[chrome maple]

shut up

youre not funny

[sick bone]

@ornate saddle

We saying shut up to you

Youre not funny

[chrome maple]

i was talking about you

[sick bone]

💀

[ripe berry]

ok
how do you think the HN Timeline plays out?

[sick bone]

Nickys diaires (Memories) - HN H&S - Act 1 - SN - HNVR - Act 2 - HN2 - HE - Act 3 - HNND itself - HN3

[ripe berry]

(I'm gonna ignore the Alphas and stuff since people already mentioned )
I'd say there's two main problems
HN2 occurs after Nicky escapes at the end of Act 2

[ripe berry]

and SN is around the time of HN2 (although no one agrees on exactly where)

then why isn't Nicky in the Basement?

[sick bone]

Tinybuild literally said it between act 1 act 2

Old posters

[ripe berry]

AS Retconned that

[sick bone]

AS and Books not 100% accurate

Can you shut up

[ripe berry]

it's now split up

[ripe berry]

everything is canon 🙂

[sick bone]

Still

Canon dont mean 100% accurate

Not always

[ripe berry]

also

Quentin in SN

he's canonically a part of SN

but hasn't moved to town yet by the time HNVR takes place

if they were canon yes

the alphas have officially been said to be non-canonical

[ripe berry]

or well they didn't directly say the words "alphas aren't canon"
but they DID say to not use information from early builds for lore
[if you can't see the like below go to id:customize and get the Archive Role]
#old-rbo-discussion message

[ripe berry]

Confirmation that Quentin in SN is canon:
#secret-neighbor message
#secret-neighbor message

all media except for:
Alphas/Betas/Demos, AS Pilot, the Guidebook, and #nog-simming are canon

[sick bone]

He were

HN2 DLC takes place before act 2 and sn

[sick bone]

Btw so how Otto in SN according to lore

[ripe berry]

AS Episode 3.

even if you don't think AS is "100% accurate"

it still gives an explanation for why Otto's in SN

[sick bone]

I mean in games like HN theres no media 100% accurate

[ripe berry]

I know
just saying AS Episode 3 provides the explanation for Otto being in SN

[sick bone]

yeah

What about the patch 9 forest part @ripe berry

İs it canon

[ripe berry]

ye

[sick bone]

if it is where on the timeline is it located?

[ripe berry]

you see
even if the HN2 Content Expansion never released
we still have enough that we can kinda fill the gaps for how HN2 would've transitioned into the forest part

[eager island]

its probably happens after layoutv2 before storm

[ripe berry]

the LayoutV2 Teaser is what happens immediately after HN2

and then after that Patch 9 Forest Sidequest occurs

[eager island]

since we know that the guest was "friendly" towards quentin in one section

[eager island]

aint its a bit plot hole

like guest helping quentin and then attack him

[ripe berry]

it's a unfinished plot thread so of course there's a hole

[eager island]

ig quentin did smth to make the guest angry without meaning to

[ripe berry]

my current timeline is something along the lines of:
GN1 -> Aaron Trilogy -> Missing Pieces/HNHS/HNHS (Launch Trailer)/HND (Memories) -> Waking Nightmare -> AS Ep. 1-3 -> HN1 Act 1/Buried Secrets/AS Ep. 4 -> AS Ep. 5 -> (Technically) SN Launch Trailer (since it'd still abide by the old SN Lore and doesn't contradict canon to include) -> AS Ep. 6/HNVR/HN1 Act 2 (Actual Events) -> AS Season 2 Ep. 1-5 -> Secret Neighbor (possibly?)/AS Season 2 Ep. 6 -> AS Season 2 Ep. 7 -> HN2 DLCs -> AS Season 3 -> HN2 -> HE -> Layout V2 -> GN2 -> HN2 Patch 9 Sidequest -> HE Sandbox -> HN1 (Dream Sequences (as in when Nicky dreams/remembers them)) -> HN1 Act 2 (In-game) -> HN1 Act 3-Finale -> HND -> HN Movie (Maybe?) -> Guidebook (If canon) -> Reset Day -> HN3

[sick bone]

How Guidebook affects to lore

[chrome maple]

what even is in the guidebook except y know a guide

[ripe berry]

problem is Guidebook created some details to fill in gaps and also at the very beginning of the book pretends to be canon to the lore

but elsewhere in the guidebook it bluntly mentions the HN Games

[ripe berry]

the main question isn't just if the Guidebook is canon or not but also HOW canon it is

[sick bone]

Maybe a Fnaf guidebook station

Like its in-lore guide book

[ripe berry]

another problem is the guidebook said some things that whilst probably true at the time were later retconned

like Maritza not having any ties to the Peterson family

(Guidebook was made before we even had Buried Secrets or GN1)

[idle field]

Who is the guest

[chrome maple]

something

[stray crag]

The guest is a magical being

And in wtrb there’s a cult who dresses as it

From what I understand.

[vagrant igloo]

the cult worships him yes
they are called forest protectors

[vagrant igloo]

ancient creature ≠ magical being

[languid sonnet]

well, now I finally know how to explain the Guest to others

[fickle garden]

The guest is actually an ancient dinosaur and that's why they aren't considered supernatural.

[split oriole]

Guest just someone in a suit, the cult believe hes like a God or smtg, thats why the adore him and wear thing to make them look like him.

[vagrant igloo]

i believe he is confirmed to be an ancient creature

[ripe berry]

not really
the only thing alluding to that is the vague achievement from HN2 "Ancient Curse" you get after the Night 3 Nightmare

which could either be about the Guest OR the Cult in general (the cult didn't always worship the Guest)

[split oriole]

nope

[wicked heath]

Not really

[vagrant igloo]

alr

i refuse to believe he is just a dude in a suit tho

[wicked heath]

Like, the crowface cult was there for a while, but like…

[wicked heath]

He isnt.
(Unless Alex has some shit to say about it)

[split oriole]

i mean, nothing supernatural happens in raven brooks

[vagrant igloo]

uh huh.

[split oriole]

he being a ancient creature would break that rule

[vagrant igloo]

the forest protectors have nothing to do with the guest aside from worshipping him

[wicked heath]

I never said they were the guest??

[wicked heath]

(Meanwhile, guest goes through walls and can turn into crows)

[vagrant igloo]

i said the guest was ancient and you said the cult was around for a while

[wicked heath]

I said the CULT

Which yes, its been around even before the 60s

[vagrant igloo]

i thought you meant the cult was the guest or smth idk

[split oriole]

actually i remember there is a unused track in hello neighbor 2 where its supposed to be the forest protectors making another ritual, and the guest its there too beacuse you can hear his beaks sounds there

i dont remember who post it, i THINK was noteg

[wicked heath]

I love hidden tapes

[eager island]

that was a "joke"

[split oriole]

what makes you say that

[vagrant igloo]

bc

everything in raven brooks

is very

very

weird

[eager island]

""

[wicked heath]

You’re not gonna tell me what happens in the vr game is normal

[vagrant igloo]

are people gonna ignore the fact that hello neighbor 3 has a twelve foot tall dude that snatches people

[split oriole]

the only thing supernatural we have seen so far was the characters dreams predicting the future

if you can call that "supernatural"

[eager island]

RB is supernatural
the guest isnt

idk why

[vagrant igloo]

yeah...
because a 12 FOOT TALL DUDE
who SNATCHES PEOPLE
is not supernatural at all

[split oriole]

Nah we always knew theo was tall we just didnt knew how tall he actually was, the books even hints aaron took that from him, i mean, nicky says aaron look so much tall for someone who have 12

[eager island]

what are you talking about

[vagrant igloo]

he is 6ft

neighbor is 6ft

[wicked heath]

Bro teleports around, goes through walls and possesses the neighbor in the graphic novel

[vagrant igloo]

and it ain't the neighbor
who's height is 6ft

[split oriole]

That was symbolic, we never saw the guest do anything supernatural outside of dreams, the neighbor in the guest suit at the end represents how he became a monster just like the guest because he never fought his fears, now he has to live with that. Even at the end of the novel Regina's sister (I don't remember her name) saw "the guest" in the back of her house and when he leaves and a piece of the sweater is left and you can see it's Theodore's not the guest's, the book itself implies that it was Theodore who was there not the guest.

[vagrant igloo]

you gonna ignore this then

[wicked heath]

The vr game:

And no, the whole portion with Aaron is no dream (at least the part he frees Nicky)

[split oriole]

My bad, I thought he was talking about Theodore, saying that his 2 meters tall was something strange.

[vagrant igloo]

i meant the 12 foot tall bird man who is meant to snatch people

who is definitely not the 6 foot tall Mr. Peterson

[split oriole]

They are not dreams at all, but they are not real, that's why when the scene ends Aaron is dragged behind to the darkness, because that's not how it happened.

[wicked heath]

Thats exactly what happens in act2 tho

Aaron frees Nicky, but then bails

[vagrant igloo]

no response ;-;

[split oriole]

No, that's just because Nikita had this weird idea of ​​give everyone weirder, eerie look, i mean, just like the librerian

im using translator give me a sec

[vagrant igloo]

yeah
but none of them are 12ft tall

that is an unatural height even for hn3 characters

[idle field]

Who is the guesr

*guest

[vagrant igloo]

what

[idle field]

Whos the guest

[vagrant igloo]

we dont know the guest's identity
or even if he is human

[eager island]

its not librarian

its a new character lol

[vagrant igloo]

he didnt say it was

[idle field]

What do we know

[eager island]

"No, that's just because Nikita had this weird idea of give everyone weirder, eerie look, i mean, just like the librerian"

hes basically saying the historian = the librarian

[vagrant igloo]

he was using her as an example of the weird look

ohhh

mb

i thought you were thinking he said the tall dude was the historian 😭

[split oriole]

That's exactly what I'm talking about. They're not exactly dreams, they're a kind of "memory." The same thing happens to Trinity when she faints in the second season, and to Regina in the truck in the second graphic novel. The only reason why aaron doesn't appear in hn1 because they didn't even have a model at the time, i mean they wouldnt put a scene where a cardboard child enters the room and hugs nicky . But HNVR shows us they did meet after he freed Nicky.

[wicked heath]

So what both of them just so happen to have the SAME distorted memory with the SAME error?

[split oriole]

i'm not saying it's a mistake, look in hn vr aaron opens the door and gets sucked into nothing, in hn1 he runs away as soon as he opens the door, even if this was done on purpose it wouldn't make sense because act 1,2 have no coherence if you compare them with the different points of view that the franchise gives us about these events, the books show differences in how act 1 happened, the alpha 2 showcase, the house from the hn2 release and the house from hn diaries, they show that the house is nothing compared to the rolocouster that nicky remembered, what i'm getting at is that nicky by act 3 didn't even remember what happened to aaron, he repressed all of that and doesn't remember how things really happened, and that's despite the fact that act 3 begins with nicky waking up from another nightmare, right after finishing the first 2 acts, and that added to the fact that he ended up with terrible psychological damage after kidnapping, most likely what happened in hn1 is the same case as hn diaries, nicky trying to remember what happened when peterson captured him and while doing that, he fills in some gaps in the story with his imagination, because aaron is not able to go underground as shown in the scene from act 2, what happened there is only nicky imagining what happened to aaron after he opened the door, because nicky never gets to see aaron in hn1

[sick bone]

Wdym error

[fickle garden]

Dinosaurs aren't supernatural, just saying...

[lone grotto]

What are you guys discussing

[meager swift]

The question is at what time hn3 occurs, before 1 ?

[sick bone]

İts not like this

Animation > Book

Official?

[unkempt sleet]

no, thats fanmade

[sick bone]

Tinybuild Better

Look good

[lyric zephyr]

No this is all my own version of the story and characters, fanmade

[unkempt sleet]

why are you replying to old messages

[ancient nymph]

That was 2 years ago, but yeah, seeing HN3 I can only say that Tinybuild is cooking

[sick bone]

Why Trinity look like this 😂 Lol

Why Robot Here

İ didn't not see the rabbit, scrapped?!

[ripe berry]

THAT WAS FROM 2023
in 2023 that's how we thought things occurred

[median stirrup]

This person is just trying to be annoying just ignore

[sick bone]

Why she change his color

[ripe berry]

Old teasers for HN2 Demo

[sick bone]

İt didnt happen in animation though

[unkempt sleet]

[ripe berry]

Episode 2's Intro

[unkempt sleet]

cant say that word

[sick bone]

Ok

[unkempt sleet]

forgor

[ripe berry]

lol

[sick bone]

😂 Hello Neighbor 3 is a thing now

[unkempt sleet]

Why is this guy replying to some really old messages

[ripe berry]

I have no clue

[unkempt sleet]

and with ping aswell

[ancient nymph]

I didn't even remember those messages

[sick bone]

Ok i come to today

[ripe berry]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1063902308368396318/1363609862214389971/goodbye_neighbor_in_mc-ezgif.com-speed.gif

[sick bone]

Bro why you posting this

[ancient nymph]

It's lore accurate

[sick bone]

[lyric zephyr]

When I posted this I fully expected Nikita to have no part in HN3 and for it to be heavily related to WTRB thank god I was wrong

[sick bone]

Animation game should be good

They should made

Alien Neighbor Canon?

[ancient nymph]

The closest thing we have is the VR game

[sick bone]

İ dont not have

How about Act 4 part the part where big nicky saves little nicky from shadow

[ripe berry]

💀

[ripe berry]

same thing

[sick bone]

But Little Nicky see shadow in here

[languid sonnet]

isn't literally everything in Act 3 and Act 4 artistic representation of Nicky overcoming his trauma from being locked in a basement and his fears of Peterson

pretty sure it at one point was said in this server probably months ago that this was the point of Act 3 and 4

[ancient nymph]

Yeah

[lyric zephyr]

Yep that’s pretty much exactly it

It’s all symbolic, not even a dream really just artistic symbolism of Nicky’s brain coming to terms with his trauma

[languid sonnet]

honestly I really wouldn't mind if it was a dream either, but it makes more sense being artistic representation

[sick bone]

So its is like Knife Edge game ?

[ancient nymph]

I don't mess with canon since AS, I just think the show's canon is the real one and just enjoy the franchise

[languid sonnet]

that's alot of trauma to overcome in one dream

[lyric zephyr]

True but he’s been reliving that trauma for like over 20 years

[ancient nymph]

I just hope they take some of the book ideas

[sick bone]

Animation better than book

[languid sonnet]

fair point actually

[lyric zephyr]

I’m of the opposite camp, WTRB is the least canon thing to the overall lore in my opinion

[languid sonnet]

I never even considered that

[ancient nymph]

I personally prefer books

[sick bone]

Book to long

[languid sonnet]

the books had really good lore

[lyric zephyr]

Same

[wicked heath]

The books have way better writing

[sick bone]

Animation better book trash

[ancient nymph]

Maybe, but they're very good

[languid sonnet]

books are important to literature

not just in Hello Neighbor

in general

[sick bone]

Wdym?

[wicked heath]

It dives into each characters and gives them ACTUAL reasons to do the things they do.

[languid sonnet]

some of the most important stories in history are books

[wicked heath]

Not like Nicky who breaks into Peterson’s house cus “why not?”

[lyric zephyr]

I love especially how Peterson is portrayed in Books 1-3
There’s something very CLEARLY wrong with his brain, he doesn’t pick up on any social or emotional cues and seems to not even realize he scares his family. He’s an awful person but you can tell at least in the first half of Book 1 he really tries at least with Mya
But there something deeply wrong w his brain and he lashes out at the littlest things and can never see himself as being in the wrong for anything, Mya put it the best herself “He’s getting worse.”

[sick bone]

They give in Animation too

[ancient nymph]

The books are the best canon in my opinion, but since WTRB is the latest thing and it doesn't fit with books...

[sick bone]

Becaus he think Theodore Masters Peterson is a killer

[lyric zephyr]

It also doesn’t fit with any of the games either, like any of them lol

[wicked heath]

Or the rescue squad a companying Trinity just because they have to BE HERE, not for any story reason

[ancient nymph]

True, he felt like a villain but not because he was evil, because he was mad

[wicked heath]

Thats not a reason to just break into the guy’s home. In the series, it doesnt concern Nicky

So unrealistic

[sick bone]

Book also unrelaistix

[languid sonnet]

in the book, Nicky and Aaron were friends

[lyric zephyr]

Nicky doesn’t even care about Ted’s missing kids it’s just to “Protect his block”

[sick bone]

How

[ancient nymph]

Peterson never really killed anyone in the books right? At least I don't remember

[wicked heath]

Like that means anything

[lyric zephyr]

In fact Aaron & Mya are never even given names in WTRB and are immediately forgotten by the entire cast including Peterson

[sick bone]

Lucy Yi

[unkempt sleet]

Lucy Yi and other people in his parks technically

[ancient nymph]

It was the forest protectors fault

[unkempt sleet]

but Lucy was retconned to be FP's fault in Aaron trilogy

[lyric zephyr]

He never kills anyone directly, it’s just his horribly designed rides
So at most he can be charged w manslaughter (accidentally causing someone’s death)

[languid sonnet]

please, go read them
the books literally show them hanging out almost all the time until Mya's death

[ancient nymph]

He was forced to open the park earlier

[wicked heath]

You havent read the books and you say they’re trash? I think you should just stop talking abt it at this point

[ancient nymph]

And the forest protectors planned the roller coaster accident

[lyric zephyr]

But he has caused the deaths and injuries of many people at multiple other parks

Remember the log ride in Germany?

[unkempt sleet]

Yea thats why i said "and other people in his parks"

[ancient nymph]

That's just bad luck, and maybe curse

[wicked heath]

Or the 1987 coaster in australia

[lyric zephyr]

In the Nicky trilogy during an interview Ted flat out admits he doesn’t like safety features of rides, says they take away the thrill and slow them down

[sick bone]

İ did read hn book 2-3 4-5-6

[wicked heath]

Ofc. You didnt start from the beginning

[lyric zephyr]

I’m not a big fan of the cult being the cause of everything in the first place, it’s better writing for it to be Ted’s own ego and mental wellbeing causing everything wrong in his life

[ancient nymph]

True

[sick bone]

Book 1 borings

[wicked heath]

You havent even read it.

[sick bone]

Cuz no Nicky go Peterson House to steal stuff

[wicked heath]

Thats not how it goes at all?????

[languid sonnet]

I actually don't mind the cult being the cause either

[ancient nymph]

Yeah, but it introduces all the elements

[lyric zephyr]

Karvilax is clearly a troll guys cmon

[sick bone]

İ know

But i already know

[languid sonnet]

it's the start of the story

[sick bone]

Cuz İ use Fandom

[ancient nymph]

The ragebait...

[sick bone]

İ edit wiki

[unkempt sleet]

I think he's just a kid

[ancient nymph]

Maybe

[lyric zephyr]

Can easily be both tbf

[unkempt sleet]

true aswell

[languid sonnet]

Fandom's not reliable, take it from me who has an SML character as his profile (yes that has relevance to Fandom)

misinformation can remain in a fandom wiki for literal years with nobody ever fact checking it

[ancient nymph]

Well, I'm expecting to see the promised solution to all the mistakes in HN lore, they said WTRB would explain

[sick bone]

No its good

[sick bone]

Time Travell

[languid sonnet]

and as soon as YOU fact check it, and then correct the misinformation
your edits get reverted

well, not all the time but that CAN happen

[ancient nymph]

I don't like the time travel stuff, is the only thing I don't like from reset day

[unkempt sleet]

Mayak will explain everything or something

[languid sonnet]

now there's time travel in Hello Neighbor..?

I thought I read all the books

[unkempt sleet]

techn

technically reset day is not time travel

[sick bone]

[ancient nymph]

Well, in Reset Day they revert time

[unkempt sleet]

its the town stuck in a time loop

[sick bone]

Who write the lore

[languid sonnet]

aw man

[unkempt sleet]

Nikita, Carly, Alex and probably more that got involved with the storywriting of different media

[ancient nymph]

I LOVE that the Guest-Neighbor thing in Reset Day smells like fire, I couldn't stop thinking about the tunnels

[languid sonnet]

I kinda prefer there being no time loop, everything that happens just happens as is

and eventually all the events get moved on from

[sick bone]

They should change

The lore

İts not good its confusing

[unkempt sleet]

they already did that a lot of times

[languid sonnet]

like with Nicky overcoming his trauma and moving on

[sick bone]

They should delete book lore

And use Animation

[ancient nymph]

Yeah, I personally think Reset Day was the first of an incomplete trilogy

[unkempt sleet]

That opinion would get a lot of people angry lmao

[languid sonnet]

the lore literally has been changed, like almost every entry outside of HN1 to Hide and Seek

[ancient nymph]

And that they stopped doing it because of WTRB

[languid sonnet]

no

[unkempt sleet]

Alex said they might do more books after the Movie, So i'm kinda hoping on that

[ancient nymph]

Because Reset Day by itself doesn't make much sense

[sick bone]

Book lore do not make sense hn1 = book 3 dont

[languid sonnet]

if they do that, WTRB would feel incomplete
even despite the big differences, you still need the books for WTRB to make any sense

you don't understand the lore of the books..? you won't understand the show

[sick bone]

Bro book irrelevant

[unkempt sleet]

book 3's HN1 Act 1 is probably the most consistent part of the book lore with the games

[sick bone]

Book is a B story

Animation A

[languid sonnet]

look, I feel like you may be

pretty young

[ancient nymph]

Really?? If they make something new perfect, if they continue with Reset Day I don't know how they will explain everything, but for me it was the scariest book

[languid sonnet]

that's understandable, I got into this franchise when I was young too

[unkempt sleet]

#hello-neighbor message

[languid sonnet]

but, please if you are not 13, you may not want to be on Discord

[sick bone]

İm 14

[languid sonnet]

there perhaps may be a language barrier then

[ancient nymph]

I got really excited when I realised Act 1 was happening

[sick bone]

Where nicky come from act 1 beggining @languid sonnet

He plays ball

Fotball

But where

[unkempt sleet]

yea he plays ball in the book 3 too pal

[ancient nymph]

In the books he kicks a ball

And uses it to break the window

Then literally stack boxes to get the red key, it was perfect

[sick bone]

How Theodora Masters Peterson didnt not hear

[languid sonnet]

I don't understand what this means in the context of a gotcha, he's just playing a game

[ancient nymph]

He did, but wanted him to get into the basement

[languid sonnet]

OH, IT'S HISTORICALLY ACCURATE

[sick bone]

Why he stupid?

Because in games he dont want it

Bro book lore funny 😂

They dont not know HN

[unkempt sleet]

didnt you said you read book 3

[languid sonnet]

I've had to do the box stacking thing in the modkit version of Act 1 because you can't really spawn in as a kid

[sick bone]

İ read

[ancient nymph]

No, the end explains it "I told you to never come back to this house. He wants me to have a friend" said Aaron as Nicky got trapped in the basement

[sick bone]

They locked

How friend

[languid sonnet]

oh that is dark

and would make sense too

[ancient nymph]

Yeah, the books are really good

[sick bone]

And Peterson is not evil

İts wrong

He good innocent person

He just want to save his kid

From crowface people

[languid sonnet]

this is official concept art

[restive void]

yea the neighbor is a kind soul who lets people in his home and gives them candy. Lovely fellow

[sick bone]

😂😂

[ancient nymph]

I LOVE when it's revealed that Mr Peterson entered Nicky's bedroom and took the phone numbers notebook

[sick bone]

Where?

[glacial whale]

Book

[ancient nymph]

The end of the 2d Book I think

[sick bone]

[languid sonnet]

please, please, PLEASE read the books
I'm sure you 100% will love them if you actually gave them a shot

[sick bone]

İdk english good

[languid sonnet]

they are good

[ancient nymph]

Nicky's house is the only safe place in games, and in the books it shows that he isn't safe anywhere

[languid sonnet]

I uh, don't know how to recommend the books then

I don't know if there are translated versions

maybe FAN translated versions

[sick bone]

👎 👍

[ancient nymph]

It's kind of when Peterson goes to catch Trinity passed his property line

[sick bone]

İ will read from fandom

[ancient nymph]

But well done

[sick bone]

Give me minute

[ancient nymph]

Depending on the language

[languid sonnet]

yeah I kind of just imagined that was a gameplay mechanic rather than a literal story beat

[ancient nymph]

First 2 books are also in Spanish, the rest only in English

I learned a lot of English with HN books

[sick bone]

Ok i know now

[ancient nymph]

Books are awesome

[sick bone]

👎 👎

[languid sonnet]

though me personally I would actually prefer if Peterson did chase you to the house in the games, setting up bear traps and cameras

[languid sonnet]

I agree

[glacial whale]

I think that’s what it was but they tried making sense of things that honestly it didn’t really need an explanation

[sick bone]

İ dont agree

[ancient nymph]

In games is for the gameplay, in books they took it to make you scared

[sick bone]

Why no Neighbor Wife in Animation

[ancient nymph]

Only in flashbacks, she's dead

[languid sonnet]

well, I do kinda understand it... I guess
home intruders no longer being on your property
but this is also the same guy who used to throw beartraps at you in the first two alphas I do not think he needed a logical explanation for not chasing you to your house

[sick bone]

Alpha not canon

[languid sonnet]

because she's goneso

[languid sonnet]

that's not my point

[sick bone]

💀

[glacial whale]

I’m meaning full game since older versions don’t really count

[languid sonnet]

I already know it's not canon, they didnt really have a story in those two alphas

[sick bone]

They had coma story

[languid sonnet]

but I'm just saying though, that's how Peterson was set up

this lunatic

[sick bone]

Bro im going to eat

Goodbye everyone @languid sonnet @glacial whale @ancient nymph @restive void @unkempt sleet

[languid sonnet]

that's why I say he did not need an explanation as to why he doesn't chase you to your house in the game, he's a literal lunatic

[ancient nymph]

Byeee

[restive void]

why are you pinging mw

[sick bone]

You talked me

[languid sonnet]

become Goku and eat all the world's food

[ancient nymph]

Do we have any clue of when the Guest's design is going to be revealed?

HN3 design I mean

[unkempt sleet]

nope

[languid sonnet]

oh he's going to be in HN3..?

[unkempt sleet]

Gonna be revealed in one of the devlogs but we dont know when

[ancient nymph]

Yes

[unkempt sleet]

yea

[languid sonnet]

that's cool