lore-discussion

[brittle olive]

They will curse you If you're interfering with their work

[ripe berry]

however Ted's Daughter Mya wasn't on the Roller Coaster at that moment so...

Lucy Yi got it instead

[glacial basin]

that probs interferred with it probably

[brittle olive]

What?

[ripe berry]

the Franklin Painting only exists in Pre-Alpha/Alpha 1 where it had a entirely different meaning

[brittle olive]

Oh mb

[ripe berry]

and in AS it's basically just there because it's easier to use a pre0existing image then redraw it

if it was interacted with it'd look different

I mean

[brittle olive]

Maybe the painting doesn't have any meaning at all and franklin is dead

Idk

[glacial basin]

ur on abt this one right

[ripe berry]

Episode 1 you can spot the Peterson Family Photo

it uses the asset from HN1 there

[brittle olive]

Yep

[ripe berry]

but in S2 Episode 3 the portrait is instead in the AS Artstyle

[glacial basin]

matpat did a theory on the painting saying it was judas kissing jesus

hello neighbor was more religious in the early days of it

[ripe berry]

it is meant to be that painting yes

but with Ted in place of Judas

[glacial basin]

whos ted

[ripe berry]

Ted and Theo are both nicknames for Theodore

[brittle olive]

Which is Mr. Peterson

Aka the neighbor

[ripe berry]

Ted is used in the books and easier to type so most in lore discussion usually call him Ted

[brittle olive]

Originally the lore was about the neighbor selling His soul to the devil and worshipping him or smth

Theo's brother probably was supposed to play a bigger role back then

[ripe berry]

that or coma theory

[ripe berry]

no
he's just a reference to the bible in the Alpha Lore

[glacial basin]

theo could be religious cuz yk of the state hes in

[ripe berry]

AS is the biggest role he has

[brittle olive]

I mean yeah

But who knows

[glacial basin]

still i find the lore interesting abt this game

[brittle olive]

Maybe he was supposed to be more than just a religious symbolism

Glad Franklin was given an actual role with the AS

[shut tapir]

Trinity's dream be like

[glacial basin]

a guy who we originally thought to be just some crazy bloke hiding something weird in his basement turned out to be a sad story

[brittle olive]

I think coma theory, and satanic plot we're the same story

[shut tapir]

Literally anyone in her dreams were appearing and dissapearing

[glacial basin]

coma theory?

[ripe berry]

yeah kinda

[ripe berry]

basically the idea that Pre-Alpha and Alpha 1 were meant to be the player in a coma or purgatory (based off theory)

and there's one really big proof of this

[brittle olive]

Also the father and son theory

[ripe berry]

that was Alpha 2-Beta 3

[glacial basin]

which is

[ripe berry]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i6nBPauHc0g

this

it shows the Player Character getting into a Car Crash, explaing why they're in a Coma/Purgatory

[glacial basin]

was even back then still nicky?

[brittle olive]

Also the basement cutscene in alpha 1 heavily implies the coma theory

[brittle olive]

Naw

[ripe berry]

nope

[glacial basin]

just player then

[brittle olive]

Back then it was "the pre-alpha Man"

Probably just a prototype model for nicky

[ripe berry]

the Model for Nicky didn't exist until Alpha 2

and the current form of Nicky only exists in Full Game onwards

in Beta 3 he was the Neighbor's Son

[glacial basin]

so if you were like looking down in the early versions i wouldve guess u were invisible

[brittle olive]

I still wonder what was the players connection to the neighbor back in pre-alpha and alpha 1

Because why is he dreaming about him?

[brittle olive]

There wasn't even a model for the hands

[ripe berry]

there's a few theories like Neighbor being satan himself in that plot

[brittle olive]

The items would just float when you grab them

[ripe berry]

or representing the Player in some way

with each room of the Alpha 1 House being a part of the player's life

[brittle olive]

Actually very interesting theory

[ripe berry]

like
you get a (toy) Gun from a School
and you find the Teacher in a Grave
you can put two and two together and realize why out player is in Purgatory (under that version of Coma Theory) from there

[glacial basin]

i saw smth abt the toy gun that they use

apparently its aarons. he got it as a christmas present

whilst mya got her doll

[ripe berry]

yeah
cut film reel from SN

[glacial basin]

yeh saw it

[ripe berry]

and also the Rifle Range is representing a war of some kind iirc

there's also the Children's Room implying a family

and also-
let's not forget about the scrapped content for Alpha 1

there's like 3 cut floors

some of which apply to these theories
some of which I dunno

like there was a puzzle based off one of the 7 Deadly Sins iirc

[glacial basin]

you know your stuff lol

[ripe berry]

#throwback-discussion message

[brittle olive]

I recently saw a hello neighbor reimagining on twitter based on the Alpha 1 lore, the plot was that you're a thief and you decide to rob your neighbor's house, you end up accidentally burning down the house while trying to steal stuff killing theo and his family. Then you try to drive away but are hit by a truck and go into a coma where satan takes the form of teh neighbor to taunt you on a purgatory

[ripe berry]

he even implies there's several sin-themed puzzles

[muted moon]

not a theory

its the actual story

[muted moon]

theres also this

[crude dew]

guys there was no coma in the plot

seriously

[crude dew]

no, he was a different character until beta 3 ending. And in the early alphas, yet another different character. They just didnt change the body

i love how these characters have totally different bodies (and yes, Elena CAN draw! it is like that indeed, not just drawn “wrong”) and different faces and different behavior even, and different purpose even, but because of some people who back then made fun up this idea for jokes, now everyone sticks to them “being the same person” even though Smith is alive in the AS even, and MJ is dead, gone, missing, was killed by cultists, like Ike was, nope, they are the “same”

mj literally “got too close to the cultists” and disappeared, which is the 1:1 plot of how Ike died, just saying.

[willow depot]

YEAH DUDE

THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING

Erm acktually Smith is uuhh uuhh Andrew Smith!!!11

Both wear blue both end up in coffins it's all part of the plan guys!!!

ggguys it's better than the former being left forgotten guys 😢

surprisingly even this crackpot idea is more reasonable

[spark tulip]

my honest reaction:

[willow depot]

I'm being satire by the way please don't take this as a genuine theory OR spread it around as such

[spark tulip]

yuh.

translate this for us, buddy.

heh.... definitely very possible. you can do it... .hh....eh..hheh.

[willow depot]

I don't speak gibberish do it for me

[spark tulip]

it's funny because we've been trying to translate this since it came out, like, over a year ago 🔥

[willow depot]

I heard on some wiki people said that it's something like blah-blah-blah Mia he shouldn't have pushed you... No they'll pay....

but again rumor's rumor

[spark tulip]

at least we've translated this one

[willow depot]

tbh I don't really like this way of "ciphering" stuff

like for billboards and posted teasers sure, just rearrange the letters

how do you rearrange letters in speech.

besides, that's some scary implications, imagine if they all just

talk like that.

Thankfully of course there's common sense which says that no this is just a bit for the cassettes

[spark tulip]

"You must find Peterson immediately!"
"You're not doing enough!"
"Well, go back to the house and find the evidence."
"Deal with him!"

[willow depot]

Suppose of all officers he's talking specifically to Keith

[spark tulip]

yes, likely

[willow depot]

the question is where the heck did Keith go that he couldn't find Theo in the giant abandoned museum

[spark tulip]

Keith went back to the house to find evidence of where Peterson fled

BUT the evidence was in the locked basement

[willow depot]

Ah I meant afterwards

mb

[spark tulip]

and it's what we find (Museum newspaper)

[willow depot]

yeah, unless I dunno, he just left a bunch of fake clues leading to uuhh

say even weather station for example

the fact that not even THE COPS can scramble the basement locks is concerning however

[spark tulip]

Mr. Tape Destroyer

my beloved

[willow depot]

the heck

is that

[spark tulip]

cultists performing a ritual in the abandoned church (seemingly)

[willow depot]

oh

[spark tulip]

and the Guest is involved, but we don't know how yet

[willow depot]

speaking of the cultists I kinda wonder how the cult thing's gonna end for the kids in AS

I mean I doubt they'll end up solving it all, especially Leslie or Mayor

[spark tulip]

yeah

[silver vine]

He did get close to the cult, but it was the guest who caught him

We hear that in one of the tapes

[willow depot]

tapes are honestly too vague in my opinion

at best you hear Guest's trademark barking esque sound but what can ya make of it

[silver vine]

You can hear camera

MJ took a photo of the guest

[willow depot]

speaking of the camera, saying that both MJ and MITH use a camera is somewhat

dumb because like

so does everyone

[ripe berry]

then explain the vote between Stage Play and Car Crash Concept Art if it WASN'T coma plot

and then they made a entire scene of it in concept art
and made the scene the teaser trailer

and reference the scene in the Alpha 1 Dream Sequences

those can't easily be explained away

(the Alpha 1 Dream Sequence explicitly uses the Player's Car Model in that scene)

if it wasn't a coma plot
guess you survive having a telephone pole crash into your car (formerly a actual Car Crash in the Teaser Trailer Test) unscathed
with the car also somehow being unscathed from it

and then there happens to be a glowing Basement Door which can be viewed as a allegory for heaven, puzzles referencing Sins, and the rooms in the Alpha 1 House seeming to tell a story in themselves
and a bunch of bible references everywhere

(sorry if I came off as rude I just can't see how Coma Plot wasn't the original intention)

[ripe berry]

ALSO nearly 1:1 with Norman Darby's plot line, especially since he's also a Journalist who is assumed dead after getting too close to the cult

[ripe berry]

and which is it?
well
it's likely MJ recorded the Tapes
except he has a tape from after Ted escaped jail
thus he must still be around in some form
unless you're going to argue MitH recorded those tapes
and MitH also happens to be investigating Raven Brooks in Secret like we're saying MJ would be (which he is, Alex confirmed this is what MitH is doing kinda (it's the only thing he's logically responding to there)
and the Red Tape happens to align with SN MitH Event
and there's a place for all the tapes to be held in Quentin's Office
implying whoever recorded the tapes worked at the RB Banner
and we got tapes referencing the SN MitH Event
so MitH is a Journalist that works at the Banner that, in-secret, is spying on people and recording Tapes
except the Banner only seems designed for one person to work at it in HN2
so MitH isn't currently working at the Banner
and unless you somehow make him quit journalism before MJ shows up MJ and MitH are likely the same person due to this logic

[silver vine]

How does red tape align with SN MITH event

[crystal raptor]

What if the thing (shadow guy) is the guest.

[snow mauve]

Nope

It's been confirmed and obviously shown

That the thing is just Nicky's own Manifestation of his trauma

Like his own fear let's just say

[crystal raptor]

Oh

That actually makes sense

But you know that's just theory, a game theory!

[crude dew]

alpha 1.5

[crude dew]

there is a cute book named faust. Maybe listen to Nikita and get and read it

[ripe berry]

I know of that book
however there's no need to hammer in the car crash unless it's important to the intended plot

specifically the Player's Car Crashing every time

[ripe berry]

NOT a actual build

just like how Prototype isn't a actual build

Alpha 1.5 is just Alpha 2

[crude dew]

i just despise that people (most of them are gone by now from here) start off rumors and theories, which eventually become headcanons and self-canons. Like the “mj is smith” shit was legit starting off as a joke, which eventually people unironically believed. Same with the coma plot, which is just a theory from ages ago, and now people come under my lore videos to argue about me not talking about it, because “they heard it, it must be true”. Ask Nikita and he will be confused, I am 100% percent at this point. As for mj. I feel like there was going to be a separate dude, who got too far in the cultist topic and disappeared, hinting that the cultists kill people, also this is an excuse to call Q here. and Quentin would have the same fate. From this point im writing long messages because noone is reading anything anyway and i filter them out automatically.

[ripe berry]

explain the repeated showing of the Player's Car Crashing (including the choice between that plot or a stage play plot) including in one of the actual Alphas in question
while what you're suggesting is possible, the Coma Plot explains this point AND the other points away

[willow depot]

The thing for keeping cassettes is a common item for the time the franchise is set in

[crude dew]

it was. Like, test build as alpha 2, but unreleased.
Also yeah, idk if it is the language or what, but the stuff above came off pretty rude 🥲

[willow depot]

RW Banner would have it either way

[ripe berry]

I'm sorry for that

[willow depot]

Also what's the tape for after Ted prison break

[ripe berry]

white tape
"you must find peterson immediately
go back to the house and find the evidence
DEAL WITH HIM!"

[ripe berry]

but it's the only building in HN2 with it atm, which would seem to imply a connection

[crude dew]

i COULD with the knowledge of faust, but..i dont want to say things that possibly are just theories. Like i legit have years in these storylines, there were other things beyond a coma, and as always, things dont happen in order in HN cutscenes

[ripe berry]

I don't want MitH to be MJ due to the design differences
but ultimately enough points to it that it feels they just decided to do that
it's definitely a retroactive continuity thing that MJ = MitH

they seemed to be actively trying to scrub almost all images of MJ from HN2

his Missing Poster appears nowhere

[willow depot]

It's more so a gameplay thing I'd say

Since well

[ripe berry]

the photo of him and Otto was removed from the Museum, it only remains in Otto's House

[willow depot]

They wouldn't put the player in some random's guy house would they

[crude dew]

i mean they reused ike and darby’s plot details too, at this point the “repurpose in different way” is the PROBLEM. because i can figure out the missing kids (halloween ones) thing for you, but it is scrapped and does not make sense in the present storyline. Which…god knows..might change tomorrow because why not

[willow depot]

No, there it is at spawn, for your convenience

[ripe berry]

not saying it isn't
but like
they could've put it in multiple buildings or smth

like have it in Ted's House with a bunch of non-interactable Tape-Boxes in it or smth

[crude dew]

also great question, why is there a mj missing poster only in the demo

[ripe berry]

he still exists because the RBBArchives and the photo in Otto's House
but it also feels like they're trying to scrub any references to him from the actual game

[willow depot]

Sure wonder why

[willow depot]

I'd doubt we'd even notice if they did

[crude dew]

its just…weird. Also for Smith, him being put to grave symbolizes that he was killed off with Beatrix too. Like they have no purpose, they made sense and had roles in a different storyline that is not relevant anymore

[ripe berry]

but still
trying to avoid linking the tapes specifically to the Banner?
show there's multiple people who have the place to hold tapes
(or give them the little cassette player or smth)

[ripe berry]

they removed the MitH Easter Egg, put him in AS, and I'm like 90% sure Alex acknowledged MitH having a story for being there

[crude dew]

the whole thing feels like there is 4 people writing the plot, and neither of them talk to the other😰

[willow depot]

I can respect how ambiguous they still make it

Beatrix has been missing? Yeah, but the grave is empty

Smith is dead? Nope, doesn't seem much

[ripe berry]

the only Question where Alex's Response makes any form of sense

the statement in question

[willow depot]

^^^

[crude dew]

or he was like “hm i want an easter egg” and then Nikita passed by his office in his “Smith should have lived” shirt and Alex said “thats it!” (Overdramatization, jk) because Smith legit appeared for 4 frames and did nothing, idk if he is in any other episodes

[ripe berry]

the only other question there was about Nicky getting screentime in S2 Episode 7, which Alex would've probably just said yes to if he was responding to that

[willow depot]

Nicky needs a comeback bro

[ripe berry]

this likely applies to where Alex is taking MitH's Story

[ripe berry]

well uh

[willow depot]

Lmao he's just mirrored

[crude dew]

i mean u can include a detective in ANY mystery story. But i feel overwhelmed by the amount of characters they are trying to work with

[willow depot]

Where didja get these from again

[ripe berry]

that's why MitH is delegated to a background role

[crude dew]

smith appears, says “hm” and dies😰

[ripe berry]

they're juggling a bunch of characters around

[willow depot]

Especially considering how the role of "The detective" is shared between a whole group of kids, a protagonist, antagonist (technically you could count Ted since he's also deep in studying the cult?), and the viewer

[crude dew]

yeah, but did they get FURTHER with any of them? Do you know more about any of them? not just 1-2 small details, but bigger stuff. Like are we progressing somewhere?

[willow depot]

Nope

Not really

[ripe berry]

Peterson, Nicky, Trinity, Crowface, Ivan, Enzo, Maritza, Delroy

[crude dew]

im asking fr tho

for example did they say anything about franklin later

[ripe berry]

there's not really enough room to fit MitH into the story
Especially with Quentin filling the Adult Detective role already (I know he's a journalist but still)

however they do likely got a story planned for MitH or else they wouldn't even bother including him at all

[crude dew]

||boyfrens investigate|| imagine. Omg I’d go crazy if they dared to do that😄😄

[willow depot]

Oh noes

[crude dew]

or just..easter egg :/

like the jesus painting, which literally makes no sense

in current context

[willow depot]

Smith shows up last second to kill the Guest with a blowtorch as opposed to pepper spray that he used in HG ending

[crude dew]

ur cooking

[ripe berry]

again Alex's weird response to the MitH Question implies some form of story DOES exist for him

[ripe berry]

.

[crude dew]

can u show the screenshot, the forwarded messages showed weirdly

[ripe berry]

only logical question Alex could've been responding to (since the Nicky one could've just had a yes)

the statement

and message link

#hello-neighbor message

[willow depot]

Then he says "DOOGYEB, sueGt" and leaves with his body into the dark

[crude dew]

so thats smith and quentin. And it would make sense that the both of them do the same thing, bc sn says they know each other. But like…plot-wise, why is it good for us, that two people do the same thing, and one of them is on 4 frames only

like, as a writer, idk how to out this together

put

[ripe berry]

unfortunately for you it makes MitH = MJ more likely

since Quentin is also doing the same thing as MJ

and it feels even weirder to have 3 characters do the exact same thing

[crude dew]

nah bc if quentin is replacing the missing journalist, like he does in hn2 plot, then it means the dude is already missing, and he is not a detective, he is a journalist.

[willow depot]

Until you remember that the kids are doing the same thing so that's like what, 8 characters

[ripe berry]

Quentin's a Journalist too and he's filling a Detective-like role

[willow depot]

At which point three detective esque characters don't seem all too weird

[crude dew]

then it would mean that smith goes after quentin, who went missing in the process, he does it because of pure love and nothing more (jk)

[willow depot]

Remember that MJ is likely in the grave if not Smith

[ripe berry]

MitH's appearance in the Grave is Removed (kinda?)

and nothing confirms or denies what happened to MJ

[crude dew]

at some point i told the devs to fill the cemetery with previously scrapped characters, we would have a biig place

[ripe berry]

it's still there
but they had the Grave blocked off so you can't see it anymore

same update they added the Beatrix Easter Egg

[willow depot]

Just make a bunker where they're all playing pocker bro

[crude dew]

he is still there, but idk why they put the top stone on it. Duh. The hat on the church already shows that smith is somewhere, it just encourages the usage of uuu

[ripe berry]

Quentin walks in the Bunker to see his sister who went missing Decades ago playing a game of Poker, with MitH, Leslie, and the Vandals

[crude dew]

i was gonna legit write that quentin finds a green cube, goes through it, and he finds the scrapped cast playing poker

[willow depot]

One of the Vandals says "Oi!"

[crude dew]

”bruh wah”

[ripe berry]

probably because MitH actually being in the grave is non-canonical but we mistook it for canonical
the hat however is canon so they kept it in

my only guess at least

[willow depot]

Men take their hats off when entering a church

[ripe berry]

one easter egg has wiggle-room to keep MitH alive

[willow depot]

And when praying

[ripe berry]

the other has him confirmed dead

[willow depot]

Does this mean Smith is Christian

[ripe berry]

and that hat also links MitH to the Blue Tape aswell lol
another link between MitH and the HN2 Tapes

[crude dew]

yeah, then if we read it that way, then he is just an easter egg, like i said. Meaning boy is dead, scrapped, out of the story:( ok ngl, i dont want them to push smith into the plot and ruin him, they already did it with otto and leslie, i grew to hate them sm, i dont want to see them, unless they die in the scene

BUT this way…why did sn bait us🤔

like u guys know that smith taking photos was part of the HG plot, right? It was, it is as old

[willow depot]

Just make scrapped characters easter eggs en masse

I genuinely want comedy featuring Smith doing things and Beatrix hitting him in the ear as a repeating thing

[crude dew]

yeah, i just wanted smith to read his little newspaper on a little bench on the street or in the park, that town looks DEAD in hn2

[willow depot]

Absolutely dude

We could really use NPCs that don't do much and just fill the space with life, scrapped characters are perfect for that dude

[crude dew]

also the hg ending was legit the moment, when smith grew to hate women altogether(if he did not hate them already), i am 1000% sure. Boy cried on that day. Because of the spray, but he cried.

like he is so upset in that ending, it is pure comedy

hg endings and cutscenes are just gold

[willow depot]

Is it bad that I think Smith is wearing a bald cap and actually has beautiful bangs underneath

Anything man just don't make him blond

[crude dew]

he does have hair tbh. Blonde-ish. Just very short. And yeah, he is either very ugly, or very pretty.
Like there is no in-between

as someone, who did draw him bald at some point, it shouldn’t…just no. He needs hair :DD

[willow depot]

Yup

[crude dew]

if anyone spots smith in earlier or later episodes, pls let me know. Now im curious

[willow depot]

We might as well just look into every moment that has the camera zoom out or slide

[tall citrus]

Who is mit h

[willow depot]

Man in the hat

If people will tell you that he's MJ don't trust them

[snow mauve]

He is

HAHH

[willow depot]

imagine if none of our guesses are correct and Smith just uses all of them as cover ups for his true identity

[snow mauve]

Then that's okay

👍

Also "Smith"?

Lmao

Wow

[split oriole]

He is

:>

[snow mauve]

Uh ohhhhhh

[split oriole]

Jk

[snow mauve]

Get out of my house!

Boo!

I see you..

laughter

sneeze

Booya!

[willow depot]

I HATE THE MJ

I HATE THE MJ

[snow mauve]

Huagh!

We know

You love him too

[willow depot]

You thought the cultists got to him but in reality IT WAS ME

[willow depot]

gosh why does he look so messed up though

[snow mauve]

Isn't it obvious

In episode 5 he bang his head

On the wall

So many times

After not doing the deal..

[willow depot]

he seemed really upset about not getting to shake Trinity's hand

he had a whoopee cushion I tell you

[snow mauve]

Can't wait to see him throw punches at her

[willow depot]

DANG

[gilded harness]

she's getting beaten up by peterson and by nicky

she's being bullied

[tall citrus]

What happened with her at shelbyville?

[snow mauve]

Hell yeah bro

[snow mauve]

She was always a stalker

[tall citrus]

Oh

[brittle olive]

We don't really know yet what she did to be considered a monster

But basically she's obsessed in stalking people

Like she did with peterson

[brittle olive]

Where is this from?

[snow mauve]

ME

[brittle olive]

What

Ayo that's a bit sus don't you think? 🤨

[snow mauve]

People still using the word "sus" is sad

[brittle olive]

Welcome to 2021

[willow sluice]

😭

[brittle olive]

Welcome to amogus

[crude dew]

nobody's guesses are correct, because people always try to ignore the fact that storylines change, characters become irrelevant, and even if they are repurposed, that new role won't be their original role. people always look for a lore explanation, and not writing explanation, and not just here, in other communities too.

like, Smith was a detective and that's it, boy cannot do much more, unless they made him a cultist now, but that would be BORING because almost everyone is a cultist, except Peterson bruh

[crude dew]

it is literally impossible to have a scene with an adult, beating up a kid in the present world
they literally censored a banana on a shirt, they won't put a scene into the cartoon, where Peterson beats a kid (plus he never did that)

[willow depot]

Yes, finally someone gets it

you gotta look at things with a writer's perspective

[crude dew]

like, I legit don't care about what people think about the lore itself, yall can talk about whatever you wish, HN had a million storylines which NONSTOP change. it's just very upsetting, when some people try to pretend that xy misinformation, or headcanon is in fact canon (and officially, we either don't know it yet, or it was just never confirmed) and then the misinformation/lie spreads so badly, I get literal threats in dm's when I say it is not true..

[crude dew]

yeah
HN books are great examples too
many things were the way they were, because the writer wrote them that way, and not because lore
Peterson being crazy was one of them

[willow depot]

honestly episode 7 has so much going for Trinity, she's kidnapped, apparently bested by Peterson as he probably escapes prison and that's just teasers

honestly I have a feeling that if any violence associated with children will be involved, it's gonna be Nicky beating up either Peterson or Crowface because thematically makes sense

Out of the the two Crowface has a "nose bleed" teaser soo it's probably the latter, can't imagine Ted being beaten up by a little kid after almost beating the entire police force

[willow depot]

oh gosh

[crude dew]

I won't even understand, if...if let's say, Peterson just mass murders like half of the town, he didn't kill any cultist in the books either, even though they already wanted to kill his family already there.
last time he killed anyone purposely, was in HN alpha 1, and he wasn't the Theodore we know today 😏 he was a different character

[willow depot]

yup

[crude dew]

Nicky trying to beat up Peterson would look like when Eggman tried to hit Knuckles in Sonic Boom, bruh I don't have the gif, but it was hilarious

[willow depot]

it's probably just Crowface because again

the bleed teaser

it'll be funny seeing Nicky lose his crap lmao

[willow depot]

Honestly I was surprised to figure out that he just so happened to be there around all these "coin-killed" people with no relation to their death

My guy Ted has A LOT of patience for the type of tragedy he went through

[crude dew]

real footage of the fight

[crude dew]

tbh in the books, there is a progress and by the end of book 3, Nicky completely dances on the edge of insanity, he wants to SLAUGHTER Peterson and that's why he breaks in. book 3 ending was well built up.
in the cartoon, the boy is just tortured to the point of insanity, sad 😦

[crude dew]

yeah he has a lot of patience, and my respect

in HN2 as well
he is very patient

[willow depot]

yeahhh

[willow depot]

kinda wish the build-up to the break in was as good because

as much as "Is it kidnapping?" was meh I think the tension in the "house-chase" scene right before Nicky gets caught was good with furniture literally flying out the windows

pretty scary how desperate Ted was to catch him at that moment literally throwing whole drawers at him

[crude dew]

lol in the AS Nicky literally just...broke in in the last minute of the episode

[willow depot]

and he was traumatized ever since that lol

[crude dew]

not even by Peterson, I must add
because he was put to the basement, yeah, no doubt
but he saw some thing with the Guest there, and that traumatized him

not even asking, why is Peterson suddenly so fuzzy in ep 7, his hair was disturbingly fine so far, despite he is in jail lol

ayo I'm watching ep 5, Peterson is ROASTING Trinity

nvm

sadge

relatable

what they keep doing, is get Peterson like...written very well
like, actually well
and then the whole scene is just ruined and he gets ooc bruh

[willow depot]

I suppose you could "excuse" it since Peterson is more or less at his worst in S2

Aaron "Bad Omen" Peterson is on the lose and probably Bad Omening all over the place, cult does whatever it wants, he's stuck in a prison cell

[crude dew]

is this bad omen thing in the AS?

funny how Peterson is the least threatening character in the AS even, and Trinity is like :000

[silver vine]

We don't know

[crude dew]

90% of people's knowledge is from the books, and barely anything is in the AS from that
like the omen thing
or Aaron...I think Aaron was...
oh wait
oooooh

[silver vine]

Barely anything is in AS?

I don't think so

Trinity, Enzo, Maritza and their friendship with Nicky is from the books

The park, the cult and all their luck stuff are also from the books

[willow depot]

I heard that Enzo's crush on Trinity was also taken from the books

[willow depot]

okay now here's THE question:

[snow mauve]

Yeah

It was always meant to be this way

But AS handle it in a different direction

Like Enzo being you know

[willow depot]

We've seen the coins have weird machinery and wires inside them from Ted's book

are they THE cult's artifact devices or are they different gizmos specifically shuffled with the normal coins of the town to like suck out the luck of civilians

[willow depot]

kind of seems obvious to be the latter but the coins don't seem to be like a currency or anything, when the gang sees them they don't recognize them and instantly pinpoint it on Ted

[snow mauve]

Literally chuck e cheese tokens

[willow depot]

that being said, what's even the importance of the golden apple coins for the inhabitants of Raven Brooks that they all carry them around

I don't think they DON'T know what these are, just having the cultists throw those to them without them noticing and doing the luck messing thing

it's probably like

[snow mauve]

Well no shit

[willow depot]

another town quirk

but

[snow mauve]

give the coins as like a gift!

And nobody will question it

[willow depot]

it's just coins

[snow mauve]

And?

It's a wonderful gift for every person in town should have one!

😄

[willow depot]

I mean a bunch of kids surely questioned it

why coins, why golden apple coins, why does everyone have them

[snow mauve]

"A bunch of kids?"

[willow depot]

at the very least it's nice to know that Ted did the town a favor and collected like a whole

bag of them

[snow mauve]

Because everyone deserves "good luck"!

^^

[willow depot]

the irony

[snow mauve]

Tries to hide em but failed

His luck sucked

[ripe berry]

the coins are from the old amusement park so finding a coin lying around somewhere from the park is to be expected
sometimes they explictly hide the fact they're the coins like with the Dogtag to lower suspicion

[willow depot]

oh wow

[snow mauve]

Smart cultists

and thanks to the reopening plan

Now people will visit the park and have more coins!

For the cultists to hand out

Otto's genius plan to give the children "stuffed" animals that has a coin in em

[ripe berry]

the Coins the cult uses have some kind of technology in them to make them do what they do

[snow mauve]

I would assume they add like a tiny magical crystal piece in it

[ripe berry]

we can see this technology in a drawing in Peterson's Notebook

[snow mauve]

Which would be the reason for the whole bad luck magic type shit

[snow mauve]

Cuz ain't no way some technology could do that lol unless that is the case..

[ripe berry]

yeah
due to things linked to Crystals consistently having the weirdness around it I assume there's some kind of crystal somewhere to do this
but it's still scientifically explainable within the realm of the HN Universe

[snow mauve]

How cultists find a magical crystal piece:

https://tenor.com/view/alien-meteor-meteor-landing-alien-landing-big-guy-and-rusty-the-boy-robot-the-big-guy-and-rusty-gif-15724157677241936702

Random asteroid fell into the sky

[crude dew]

so they put the luck device tech to the coins? Bro

[silver vine]

Alex wanted it to be more grounded and less mystical

Alex implies that the coins have a scientific explanation

[versed yacht]

The coins are less luck devices and more bad luck devices

[willow depot]

Just like the Guest is not supernatural?

One thing I can't wrap my head around is why would cultists need the amusement park reopened

[crude dew]

money naturally brings bad luck and bad things in life. That is the explanation. The AS is teaching yaall about consumer society and the negative effect of material possessions. We have come a full circle.

good luck figuring out if im joking lol😄

[willow depot]

...and join our cool crow cult to have good luck and good things in life!!!!!!

[crude dew]

cults usually promise this . Just to give the opposite

[willow depot]

I like Murtaugh

but I hope he stays dead just so there's actual action in season 2

[final walrus]

I think the logo of the game is quite interesting. The snake is clearly meant to be "Ouroboros" The Ouroboros is an ancient symbol of a serpent eating its own tail, representing the eternal cycle of life, death, and rebirth. Also the butterfly is usually associated with transformatiom and the bunny with rebirth. They seem to be leaning into mythology and I kinda like it. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ouroboros

[willow depot]

They did Trinity so dirty

[snow mauve]

GOOD

Fricken deserved lmao

Theo did the right thing

[willow depot]

Broo naww

[haughty lava]

:I

[willow depot]

I don't really like how Season 2 was just "Bad things happen, visit Peterson in prison" to be honest

[ripe berry]

can we agree that HN3 is after HN2 but before HN1 Act 3 in the timeline?

[willow depot]

Duh

[willow depot]

They could've had Trinity get locked up in Peterson's cell all the way back in ep5 honestly

She just doesn't catch a break throughout the whole season and then it just

Ends abruptly

[silver vine]

No way in hell

HN3 is after HN1

[ripe berry]

either way it's def after Act 2 of HN1 and HN2

[ripe berry]

so would you say this the aftermath of the Games' Version of GN2?

[silver vine]

Ehhh

We still don't know anything about HN2

Nothing about Peterson and guest

Other than the fact they are just there

[ripe berry]

the story will be roughly the same with RBO and HN3

so there's that

[silver vine]

I wonder how Neighbor comes into play

His house is destroyed

I hope th guest stalks us at nights atleast this time around

Also, what about the park

[brittle olive]

Im curious to what happened to literally everyone. What happened to the cultists? Quentin? The guest? Peterson? Aaron?

[tight holly]

Yes me too

[ripe berry]

Peterson's fine in HN3 so...

[brittle olive]

Yeah but why is he still in raven brooks?

The town is completely destroyed

[tight holly]

maybe he has some unfinished business ??

[brittle olive]

Yeah probably

[haughty lava]

it's the future man, things have changed

[silver vine]

He is?

[brittle olive]

The cultists are still out there and so is the guest so...

[shell gull]

Nikita pointed out “RBO” so it may be some sort of Mode.

[haughty lava]

cool

[ripe berry]

lemme get Alex's message

[brittle olive]

What if the mill returns? And it was like

Build by the vandals

[haughty lava]

wrecked?

or that

[silver vine]

No I've seen his message

[silver vine]

But, I don't think he's...fine

[ripe berry]

not fine
but he's in the game confirmed

[brittle olive]

Would be cool if the mill was made with a bunch of scraps and stuff

Maybe there's a scrapyard somewhere

[haughty lava]

yeah

i mean

[brittle olive]

And the vandals are using it to rebuild the town

[haughty lava]

no sane person lives in raven brooks now

[willow depot]

Dude it better be

[brittle olive]

Yeah

[silver vine]

Does he have a big role?

If he did, I feel like he would've shown up by now

[willow depot]

How is he alive

[brittle olive]

Oh yeah btw while i think the ending was mid trinity got exactly what she deserved so W episode

Idk

But alex said he is

[haughty lava]

anti ageing cream

[willow depot]

Like I said throughout the season inventors club just constantly have it bad with the cult and you kind of wait for it to pay off but it just never does because after visiting Peterson and learning nothing the same thing happens again

[ripe berry]

Alex/Nikita wants to save it for the next video

[haughty lava]

that sucks

[willow depot]

The only thing they achieved is Peterson's book and it was ripped outta their hands

[haughty lava]

I wonder if we will see MITH again

[brittle olive]

Honestly while this season did have some cool episodes season 1 is far better imo

I was expecting the guest to show up and theo fight him or smth like that but no

[haughty lava]

yeah

we wanted to see The Guest

[brittle olive]

Hopefully season 3 is better

HN3 looks good too but i still want patch 10

[brittle olive]

He would definitively fit in the games atmosphere

[haughty lava]

what will even be in patch 10?

[haughty lava]

man in the hat... more like MITH

[willow depot]

"Oh nooo the gang was ambushed, Nicky is out of commission and Trinity only had Ted to go to, so maybe it'll lead to- oh, nevermind that lead to nothing and the gang is alright. But OH NO CONFLICT, the cult is victorious, the club is done, okay, but Nicky was out of commission for the whole season so maybe NOW he'll have a comeba- yeah nope. Okay, Peterson, he's gonna fix th- aaand he just abandons Trinity in the cell and dips on a cliffhanger."

[haughty lava]

season 2 is mid

[brittle olive]

Good question, everything we know about patch 10 is outdated

[haughty lava]

most of the things now are outdated

so

like

i dunno

can't wait to see The Tall Bird in HN3 tho

[brittle olive]

Yeah. My favorite episodes we're uuuuhhh episode 3 5 and 7

Episode 2 was also good but i don't like it so much

Idk why

[haughty lava]

can't wait to see adult nicky at the end of season 3

[brittle olive]

Huh

Speaking of grown up nicky

[haughty lava]

i'm making a joke

[brittle olive]

What if he shows up in this game

[haughty lava]

it would make sense

[brittle olive]

Cuz like isn't he living in raven brooks (even though it's abandoned)

[haughty lava]

yeah he is

he moved into his old house in act 3 of HN

[brittle olive]

Idk why anyone would want to live in there

[haughty lava]

moldy town smell

[brittle olive]

Like the town has this tall humanoid raven creature that can shapeshift and take your stuff or just kill you, a child kidnapper that gave you lifelong trauma, ptsd hallucination, vandals that can just rob your house at any moment, a cult that can just give you bad luck and wreck your life if they wish so

and

An old house that he lived as a child and is falling apart

Oh yeah also mutated people and crazy weather

[haughty lava]

i don't think they are mutated

i think they are just born that way in the whole HN universe

[brittle olive]

That doesn't really matter

Why would anyone want to live in a town with a bunch of slendermans

[haughty lava]

i dunno but The Tall Bird is kinda cool

[brittle olive]

Yeah except the part he kills people

[haughty lava]

also i'm calling HN3 Guest, The Tall Bird

because

he's tall

and it sounds more spooky

[brittle olive]

Can we start calling abandoned raven brooks slenderman city?

[haughty lava]

or ... RUIN BROOKS... hahaha

raven's nest would be a cool name for abandoned raven brooks

[brittle olive]

Ooohh i dig raven's nest

Y'know

I don't know if HN3 is going to have acts (assuming it will) but what if one of the acts is in the big city

And the cultists moved there because y'know

It has a bunch of people and raven brooks is abandoned

[silver vine]

It won't

It's completely open world

It won't have acts

[brittle olive]

Interesting

[haughty lava]

a choose your own adventure book, but like a game

[brittle olive]

So im assuming you need to explore in order to progress

[haughty lava]

yeah you do

[brittle olive]

Well that's a fresh breather

[ripe berry]

lemme send the store page descriptions for HN3

[brittle olive]

Hopefully they don't change teh entire direction of the game again

[haughty lava]

https://tenor.com/view/взгляд-2000-ярдов-война-war-soldier-gif-3632617944134077161

[ripe berry]

Arriving in Raven Brooks as a stranger with no ties to this place, you find yourself in a forgotten, half-abandoned town where every citizen has relations, desires, and goals. Your actions will ripple through the town, changing the course of events…

Simulated town - Raven Brooks as a sandbox simulated in real-time. Residents act based on their personalities and circumstances.

Every decision is the right one - The system-based nature of the game allows for complex ways of achieving your goals.

Cozy yet eerie adventure - A fading half-abandoned town in early spring, tangled with overgrowth and memories.

[ripe berry]

Nikita said they're trying to avoid that this time

[brittle olive]

I don't trust tinybuilds to be honest

[ripe berry]

(Main Description for HN3)

[haughty lava]

I hope we can beat up people in HN3

[brittle olive]

But lets PRAY they keep their word this time

Im tired of false promises every year

[ripe berry]

Other description: "A cozy yet eerie adventure, where every path is the right one, and every action leads to discovery. Explore and influence Raven Brooks, a half-abandoned town simulated in real-time."

[haughty lava]

we are finally getting the real HELLO NEIGHBOR game

[brittle olive]

It sounds like this game won't be horro focused

[ripe berry]

Nikita hopes to be more transparent
so if things change this time they're going to inform us so we don't need to worry about false promises

[brittle olive]

Good

[ripe berry]

no
we're getting Nikita's Dream Project Empathy

[brittle olive]

Exactly

the REAL hello neighbor

[haughty lava]

https://tenor.com/view/gaster-w-d-gaster-deltarune-undertale-eating-gif-15446523835156691751

[ripe berry]

(in case you forgot this is what Empathy is)

[brittle olive]

But i think this one won't have a focus on horror

Tbh no HN game is scary so not a surprise

[haughty lava]

i want to still be caught by my neighbors

[brittle olive]

Same

I think this game will lean more into an eerie and uncanny vibe

[haughty lava]

yeah

[brittle olive]

I think would bê cool if uuuh

[haughty lava]

lets hope jacob knows what he's doing

[brittle olive]

You can anger the vandals and they can like start throwing stuff at you

And you can take damage

[haughty lava]

we need a hello neighbor health bar

[brittle olive]

Or some of them are hostile

[brittle olive]

Yeah

Just like dark riddle 3

[haughty lava]

every time someone catches you or hits you... you loose health

[brittle olive]

And EXPLODE

[narrow gyro]

Hello

[haughty lava]

nah you wake up in a dingy house

[brittle olive]

I hope we can bomb a school in this one

Like peterson

[haughty lava]

hello neighbor

[brittle olive]

I mean cultists

[brittle olive]

Goodbye neighbor

[haughty lava]

https://tenor.com/view/staring-meme-bald-guy-staring-gif-16652283412331227052

[narrow gyro]

Tinybuild can't handle your sigma

[brittle olive]

Fr

They even banned the word R-I-Z-Z

[narrow gyro]

Why dont we say it

[lilac beacon]

I want to see the neighbour fight all the crow faces in a 7 V 1 in WTRB

[narrow gyro]

Rizs

[brittle olive]

So we sigmas cant express our feelings

[haughty lava]

i mean he did it with the cops

https://tenor.com/view/hello-neighbor-where-is-he-welcome-to-raven-brooks-episode-6-theodore-peterson-gif-14368243216416586018

[narrow gyro]

Yea

[brittle olive]

And the guest

[narrow gyro]

4 vs 1

And then he got caught

[haughty lava]

he got a taste of his own medicine

[lilac beacon]

True but in ep 7 season 2 we see that he k!led one of the crow faces and I thought it would be cool

[narrow gyro]

I mean the story is sad

But the reason he acts like that

[brittle olive]

Nah but peterson really MESSED UP that crowface though

[lilac beacon]

Facts fr

[haughty lava]

he snapped the whole body man

[brittle olive]

Like bro wasn't playing around

[narrow gyro]

Is cuz he gets critisized for murdering his family

[brittle olive]

That's why you don't mess with da neighbor

[haughty lava]

that crowface got all of his bones broken

[narrow gyro]

His face became sigma after 1 punch

[haughty lava]

and the neighbor was still in bars

[brittle olive]

No, theo made him beta with one punch

That's how Sigma he is

[silver vine]

Jacob isn't the protagonist

[haughty lava]

yap yap yap

[lilac beacon]

The neighbor in WTRB stands on buisness

[haughty lava]

Jacob is still cool tho

[silver vine]

?

[brittle olive]

The neighbor we've always dreamed off

[silver vine]

Nikita literally told

[silver vine]

In basement chat

[haughty lava]

no one looks at that

[silver vine]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1058564244611797024/1305234107156004904/image.png?ex=6732497d&is=6730f7fd&hm=3ddf3baad2594f79685bb69d1fd77128238ecc49779515770aa66d27ea60d9e3&

[warped citrus]

coughs

Oh okay

[brittle olive]

Basement chat?

[silver vine]

@haughty lava

[lilac beacon]

Bro the hello neighbor movie is gonna slap

[haughty lava]

if our boy jacob isn't the main character then who is? the neighbor?

[warped citrus]

#basement

[lilac beacon]

And they announced hello neighbor 3 I’m tripping

[narrow gyro]

Hn3 is probably gonna be on pc like hn2

[haughty lava]

and then later released onto ps5

[narrow gyro]

You mean

Ps5 pro max

Whatever its called

The new ps5

[ripe berry]

someone completely new most likely

[haughty lava]

https://tenor.com/view/shusher-home-captain-smek-gif-16112908977447177811

[ripe berry]

the description for the game says we have no ties to Raven Brooks

[haughty lava]

we get to play as some guy

or girl

[brittle olive]

No acess

[brittle olive]

Which is interesting, maybe we like to visit abandoned places

[haughty lava]

you need to find the key

[brittle olive]

Damn

This truly is the hello neighbor server

You gotta find keys to unlock channels

[haughty lava]

it's in roles

[brittle olive]

So where's the walkthrough

[velvet fossil]

I'll send you a DM

[haughty lava]

also what the hell is nog simming

does anyone even remember that?

[brittle olive]

Gon missing

[brittle olive]

Cool

Hey

Só here's an idea

Uh so hello neighbor 3 is like after a storm that uh destroyed raven brooks and stuff and everyone got evacuated and stuff and now there's vandals

And the storm is mutating the people that are still living in raven brooks

And the guest is mutated

[haughty lava]

we need a day system for HN3

[brittle olive]

Peterson is being slowly mutated too

[haughty lava]

:I

[lilac beacon]

We’re would the neighbor come into this?

[brittle olive]

Idk

[haughty lava]

were*

or where

[brittle olive]

He's probably still trying to stop the cultist

[lilac beacon]

Auto correct :3

[haughty lava]

he's probably in a wheelchair with brittle bones

[lilac beacon]

Lol

[haughty lava]

kinda like burn trap

[brittle olive]

Goodbye legs

[brittle olive]

So i just rewatched the HN3 devlog

And are we just going to ignore the weird noise nikita was running away from?

It sounded like a bear

And i don't think It's the guest either.

[haughty lava]

most likely was The Guest

[daring sandal]

It sounded like a pig 0_0

[haughty lava]

or it could be another spooky creature

[daring sandal]

I also thought that aswell. It's cool if it is him

What about the guy without arms?

Who is that guy

[brittle olive]

I don't think so

The sounds did not sound like the guest at all, more like some bear

Maybe it's going to be a new threat

Actually now idk

First it sounds like a raven

Then chirps

Then a Bear

Then a pig

[tribal talon]

The Hello Neighbor Timeline but its updated (November 2024)

[cold rune]

chat

season 2

[ripe berry]

hey uh btw
I can tell you labelled AS Pilot non-canon
But you also still got it in the timeline here

[cold rune]

is peak

[tribal talon]

some people say th epilot isnt canon and some canon

[ripe berry]

also, HN Movie will likely link to RBO in some way

[ripe berry]

well lemme settle this for you

[tribal talon]

hm

[ripe berry]

a reddit post in April 2022 officially stated

the AS Pilot isn't canon

[tribal talon]

mhm

[ripe berry]

https://www.reddit.com/r/GameTheorists/comments/uayb6q/ceo_of_tinybuild_and_producer_of_the_original/

Section: Hello Neighbor 2 & The Animated Series - "The original test pilot cartoon will no longer be canon."

[tribal talon]

🤔

[tribal talon]

ok

[ripe berry]

other then that your timeline is fine

[haughty lava]

the movie will explain why RBO is a thing.. trust

https://tenor.com/view/gaster-w-d-gaster-deltarune-undertale-eating-gif-15446523835156691751

[agile creek]

just finished watching season 2, that was pretty cool ig

[tribal talon]

Thx

[cold rune]

watch the devlog

[tribal talon]

K

[cold rune]

RBO leads into hellp neighbor 3

raven brooks online

[agile creek]

RBO got the Hello Guest treatment

[haughty lava]

it's canceled, but might be made another time

[cold rune]

yaya

[agile creek]

I rly like the concept of RBO so I hope they bring it back in some way in the future

[haughty lava]

random encounters called mr Peterson, mr seperton

just a cool fact

[haughty lava]

it was mid

[agile creek]

I mean then again I have the most baseline knowledge of Hello Neighbor’s story ever, so it may have been easier for me to enjoy it idk

[haughty lava]

well i mean

i don't know much of the lore

but i do know enough to be here

[brittle olive]

Guy without arms

?

[haughty lava]

the guy with the mask

y'know

one of the other characters shown off in HN3

also

why does HN3 kinda look like little nightmares man

[brittle olive]

You mean the one with the smile face mask

Like in our usernames

[haughty lava]

yes

[ripe berry]

they're known as Signed

they do have arms btw

[haughty lava]

when are we gonna see Iris again?

she

looks purple

[ripe berry]

Iris is ok

her hair texture's still broken so they haven't shown her yet

[haughty lava]

ok

maybe Iris is gonna be a npc

[ripe berry]

most recent image of Iris, showing what Nikita means

[haughty lava]

why is she so purple tho?

[ripe berry]

no clu

[haughty lava]

she probably ate tons of purple paint

https://tenor.com/view/memes-gif-23500520

[haughty lava]

what kind of hat is she wearing? i can't tell due to BLUE

[tribal talon]

RBO isn't cancelled, it was a very experimental test idea for a sandbox Hello Neighbor game but the Devs realised that, they couldn't make it to their liking for several reasons so they changed it to a single player game, that being Hello Neighbor 3. Kinda like how Hello Guest became Hello Neighbor 2.

[ripe berry]

yeah

and I think HN3 will be something Nikita is truly passionate about

after all it's basically his dream game revived

[haughty lava]

i don't think you understand my text

[ripe berry]

(I know I've mentioned this at least 10 times today)

[haughty lava]

what even is EMPATHY

is it just

[ripe berry]

read the image here

it explains what we know about Empathy

[haughty lava]

empathy is part of HN universe.. trust

https://tenor.com/view/gaster-w-d-gaster-deltarune-undertale-eating-gif-15446523835156691751

here's klumpler, my pride and joy of using image editing software

[tribal talon]

Does anyone else think that Nicky might've killed his parents?

[tall citrus]

What is rbo

And will there be a s3 of the as

[ripe berry]

yes

[ripe berry]

look up Hello Neighbor 3 Devlog 1 and you'll find out as Nikita explains it

[silver cargo]

Can we all agree that Quentin just died at the end of Hello neighbor 2?

I mean, we never saw what happend to him, since HN2 seems to be discontinued.

This theory is obviously a joke.

[ripe berry]

so uh

can we all agree it makes more sense due to the concept to place HN3 after everything else in the timeline?

new timeline:
HNHS/HNHS Launch Trailer/HND (Memories)
HN1 Act 1
HN2 DLCs
SN Launch Trailer
HNVR
HN1 Act 2 (Actual Events)
SN
HE
HN2
HN2 Patch 9
HN1 Act 2/Act 3/Act Finale
HND
HN3

Ted's HN3 Design is teased
this def years after HN2

[strange lance]

This is correct except for SN's placement, which the kids would not do if they have already saved Nicky in hnvr which you put before it

[ripe berry]

aren't you the one who said SN is a dream of Quentin's after the "actual events" occur?
under that logic, no reason to be upset over where I put SN

[strange lance]

I did not say that

[ripe berry]

could've sworn you said smth along the lines of SN being Quentin's Dream

[strange lance]

I said Quentins version of SN is a dream because that is what the trailer explicity shows. SN, with the kids, still happens and it still has a canon ending in the non imagination world (rocket ending)

[ripe berry]

well SN, as we see it in-game, is Quentin's Version

Quentin is playable, thus it's Quentin's version of SN

you can say to move the Launch Trailer for SN Back, but I'm not moving the actual SN Placement

[strange lance]

ok but the rocket ending is still there, which Quentin can get. Which of course makes 0 sense

because he shouldn't be there

this is why they shouldn't have added him ugh

[ripe berry]

if he's somehow dreaming things that others had imagined before-hand why can't he dream the real events Rocket Ending but with him self-inserted aswell

either way
not moving the SN Placement from it's current spot, at most only the launch trailer

[strange lance]

I guess he could do that? But either way 2 versions of SN still happen. The one with just the kids (who get the rocket ending) and the one where Quentin dreams of himself with the kids. So personally I would just add "real SN" after the hn2 dlcs and "dream SN" somewhere before hn2

that way it all works

[crude dew]

wait so quentin is mentally on a kid’s level? They see the same thing

[strange lance]

its just an excuse to add Quentin, I doubt they thought about the lore that hard

uuuuh its a dream!

[ripe berry]

na
at most Imma just use the Launch Trailer for the "Real SN"

[crude dew]

i want at least one game, which does not go to limbo right before revealing, what is the deal with quentin and smith

[ripe berry]

Act 2 I only put in a incorrect spot since I know most people would probably be confused why Act 2 is after HN2

(I usually do "Actual Events"/"In-Game" to separate that one since it's the one time where something important happens that we don't have any actual scenes of that are real outside of the HNVR Credits)

I'm mainly not doing the "SN (Actual Events)" thing since I KNOW people will be debating that if I didn't list SN as one single event

[tall citrus]

Do you know when it will be out?

[tall citrus]

U should make a video on the lore cause u almost know everything

[ripe berry]

Alex hopes to get it out by December

[tall citrus]

YIPPE

[ripe berry]

not really
also I'm not really comfortable with sharing my voice online atm so I'm not going to
especially since HN3 just got announced but we got almost nothing about the HN3 Plot

[brittle olive]

Well he very clearly has an arm

[ripe berry]

Converted the timeline into a image (decided to use SN Roblox to repsent the Planning phase for saving Nicky and also added the RBBArchives as a bonus)

[brittle olive]

Hope that's the case

Would be cool if whatever creature that sound it is

[haughty lava]

your mom

[brittle olive]

It's like a vandal with a mutated body to look like a bear

And he uses a bear mask

[haughty lava]

https://tenor.com/view/plankton-smacking-lips-licking-lips-spongebob-gif-13771415381539060340

[brittle olive]

Ayo? 🤨

[haughty lava]

hear me out

freddy fazbear

[brittle olive]

PERFECT

five night's at theos

Is canon

[haughty lava]

OH NO

[brittle olive]

And peterson is a bear

[shell gull]

Alright what are we talking about in Lore Dis after the Final Ep.

[brittle olive]

Idk

There's not much to talk about regarding the lore

Since EP 7 didn't answer anything or showed much

Just ended in a cliffhanger

Rn we only have HN3 to theorize about

[haughty lava]

episode 7 is good... trust

[brittle olive]

It is

But the ending is mid

[haughty lava]

https://tenor.com/view/gaster-w-d-gaster-deltarune-undertale-eating-gif-15446523835156691751

[brittle olive]

Could have been wayyyy more interesting

Was expecting the guest to show up and theo fight him and the cultists

But end up losing

Tbh i think this episode couldve just been apart of EP 6

[haughty lava]

bro the neighbor broke all of the bones inside a cultist man

[brittle olive]

Same thing goes to EP 4 and 5

[haughty lava]

and he was behind bars

[brittle olive]

He turned him into a sandwich

Who do you think that was?

[haughty lava]

https://tenor.com/view/gaster-w-d-gaster-deltarune-undertale-eating-gif-15446523835156691751

[brittle olive]

I think it was leslie

[brittle olive]

That would explain why he's not in hello neighbor 2

Had to find an excuse brah

[haughty lava]

he's in nog simming

is nog simming even canon?

[brittle olive]

No

[haughty lava]

then what the hell is it

[brittle olive]

Old lore

Probably

[haughty lava]

old and new lore

why can't we just HAVE LORE!!!

[brittle olive]

Because tinybuilds

Is dumb

They don't know lore

So tehy make new lore

[haughty lava]

and keep changing their minds about the story

[brittle olive]

Yes lol

And about the games

[haughty lava]

now lets get back to talking about HN3 mechanics

[brittle olive]

Add vandal event

Where they start uuuuhhh

Robbing each other

[haughty lava]

WE NEED "the hello neighbor branded health bar"

[brittle olive]

House

Yes

Add a health bar

When it's full you're Sigma

When it's low you're beta

Add hablities

What if you could into uuuuhhh

[haughty lava]

if you get caught or hit and lose all your health you wake up in a dingy bedroom

[brittle olive]

A cultist

What's a dingy room

[haughty lava]

but if you do hardcore you die forever... trust

https://tenor.com/view/gaster-rap-wd-gaster-wingblings-wd-gaster-rap-gaster-rapping-gif-26169076

[brittle olive]

Sounds good

Now add

The mill

RUMBLE ON THE MILL

[haughty lava]

you have to fight The Tall Bird

[brittle olive]

nah

You have to fight da vandals

Then guest shows up to destroy it

One idea i was thinking is that the mill somehow can stable the weather

Somehow

[haughty lava]

but The Guest wants the mill to keep spinning

https://tenor.com/view/hello-neighbor-hello-neighbor-2-guest-gif-11433536946653872716

[brittle olive]

Yeah but mill is good now

[haughty lava]

: I

[brittle olive]

So guest wants to destroy it

He wants to bomb It

[haughty lava]

also The Guest is now The Tall Bird

because he's tall now

[brittle olive]

No

He's the tall BIRB

[haughty lava]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-meme-gif-26663113

anyways

[brittle olive]

Let's talk about

HN 10

[shell gull]

HN3 being announced is big but there’s still HN2 which they need to update.

[brittle olive]

True

[split oriole]

I was reading Grave Mistakes again, there is something I can't understand.
Does anyone know why Roger Peterson made this list and what his purpose was?

[woeful moat]

probably people he knew were forest protectors

or suspected

because they had existed back then

[split oriole]

Thanks

[brittle olive]

So uh

I just came up with an idea regarding Theo:

What if he's like

Making a bunch of robots and stuff in the amusement park

And he made só many of them now there's a whole scrapyard of them

And the vandals steal materials from it to rebuild the town

And t create the mill

[ripe berry]

think of it as a fan-story that HAPPENED to be made by the community manager at the time

[brittle olive]

So i came up with a new idea that sort of replaces this one

Instead of the storm mutating people

The town is now filled with diseases that can affect you and the NPCs, one of them can change your physics

Like making your limbs super tall or slender

And it's the most common one

Another disease i thought is one that makes you agressive and attack people out of nowhere

[tall citrus]

What games are yall playing?

[brittle olive]

HN games?

[tall citrus]

On steam?

[brittle olive]

Like any games?

[tall citrus]

Or PlayStation and Xbox cause I’m on PlayStation there’s only like 3 games

[brittle olive]

Currently im playing S3&K

And it's peak

But i think we should bring this to off topic

[tall citrus]

Yea

[brittle olive]

Oh

Well im not playing any HN game

[kind sparrow]

I like the fact that I can spawn on an HN server and casually talk about sonic

[brittle olive]

Yes

[kind sparrow]

But yeah S3&K is peak

[vernal onyx]

guys i have a theory

what if hn3 will be peak

[dry patio]

Correct

[brittle olive]

Solved

[vernal onyx]

chat, call me matpat cuz i just disected hn3 frame by frame

[muted karma]

Chat

guest files

go hard

[barren garden]

where did you find that

[brittle olive]

Is that a Th3Badd3st reference?

[vernal onyx]

guys, i found out the hn timeline (based on nothing)

hn2 > hg > hn3

i wonder if nikita will just randomly look at lore discussion and say my joke timeline is either right or wrong

[silver vine]

HG is not canon

[vernal onyx]

@silver vine thats why its a joke timeline

[willow depot]

Smith files go harder

https://tenor.com/view/hello-guest-hello-neighbor-hello-neighbor2-secret-neighbor-man-in-the-hat-gif-24135997

[brittle olive]

Shut up joykill

[brittle olive]

Damn ya'll are going hard today

Solved the lore

HN 3

And now the entire timeline wow

[muted karma]

NAW

Bro is my enemy

Let me call reinforcements

Jimmy

bob