lore-discussion

[safe charm]

They say hes a urban legend

[muted moon]

urban legend doesnt mean old

[safe charm]

It litteraly also says Existed for ages

[muted moon]

ages could be a few decades

[silver vine]

Ancient curse

[crude dew]

i think…you are in the wrong channel? poem is easily fan art…maybe? Not sure, Jacky can tell

[indigo spindle]

Hello

[stiff spire]

oh mr wilson

[crude dew]

guys, does nicky escape in the end of hnvr or do they just find him?

[stark timber]

We see Nicky escape in the end credits

[wicked heath]

In the game, the rescue squad essentially did nothing except get the Guest involved

[crude dew]

okay, thanks, I didn't remember tbh

[elder olive]

am I the only one or is nicky's house just non existent in hn2? like, theres some sort of tree house in it's place? i might be missing severe lore changes

[unkempt sleet]

The treehouse is Nicky's Treehouse
His house just doesnt have an unique model in HN2, they just used a background house for it

[elder olive]

this pisses me off so much

[dry patio]

A bunch of inconsistencies of every hn map

[silver vine]

not that much

only difference is that the bedroom is turned into another living room and theres a hallway in the back

only the second floor is completely different

the house is alive

[dry patio]

"the house's stairs also are placed in a different location"🤓

[silver vine]

yeah

the stair placement is similar to alpha 1.5

[strange lance]

Realistically the house layout changes every game so it doesn't get boring and to fit the gameplay. Lore wise what TC said, the house is alive

Like its not an organic thing it just magically changes

In the lore

[silver vine]

And then finally it gets destroyed

[trail haven]

Sup? Haven't been here for days. Which trilogy is better? Nicky's of Aaron's?

[unkempt sleet]

Aaron

[frigid pumice]

Just got all 7 books

Started reading the first one

[stiff spire]

nice

[vast apex]

I haven't been on the server for a long time, everything is canon? If so, is there a rough explanation of how Search and Rescue works in relation to AS

[safe charm]

We simply do not know yet

But yes both are canon

We Will just have to wait to understand how

[vast apex]

OK, thanks

[willow depot]

it's just inconsistent

imo

at the very least so was like every single variation of the house that we got to walk in, the floor plan is somewhat the same but the furniture and stuff is different

[sage obsidian]

Judging by the Audio here, what is the "guest portal" (Audio is from HNVR). Just want to have a better understanding of it.

[safe charm]

Its the end scene of the guest

Coming through the basement roof

[sage obsidian]

Does the Audio play during that? If so, I never heard it..

[safe charm]

Not sure

[sage obsidian]

But with it, I'm guessing it's some sort of transition from the guest world to the normal world?

if that's how I say it

[safe charm]

But anyways hnvr has done the guest the most justice out of all the games

[safe charm]

Problaby yes

I Think so at least

In hnvr guest wants something with Ted

Im not sure what

Do featheres surround mr Peterson?

After you catch him

[sage obsidian]

hold on, might have a vid of that

Some sort of fade into the dark

[safe charm]

We now know as well AS Books and hnvr is all canon

Everything is so confusing now

[sage obsidian]

In fact, I have not read any of the books. But brought, and just got the "Bad blood" one arrive in my mail box today. Sadly the mailman wedged it into there so sadly it's all bent

But so far, the book is rather interesting

[safe charm]

I just want to know what the guest is

A lot

Im confused by him

Because he Feels different between hnvr hn2 and AS

Alex Said at one point lore for the guest stopped Making sense

Until they made AS

[sage obsidian]

In my opinion, it seems like in HNVR, the guest is some sort of mysterious entity which appears from world to world. While in HN2 he's just some character guarding and stopping Quentin from continuing through the forest.

One mysterious and shape shifting, the other is just a guard.

[safe charm]

Yes thats what i mean

AS and hn2 version feel

Less supernatrural to me

[sage obsidian]

And I do agree

Feels like completely different characters

[safe charm]

If its because they changed his lore they really need to tell us lol

Because its confusing

To try to piece it together when it feels like its different directions

[safe charm]

I prefer the hnvr version but Thats just me

Hn2 one is cool too though

[sage obsidian]

Same here. I would prefer the HNVR one in the side of a mysterious, and shape shifting character. And as well, not saying the HN2 one is bad.

HNVR also does great to portray the story through such an atmosphere. Such as the guest world

[dry patio]

I like supernatural guest imo

More than unsupernatural guest

[rain sluice]

Hope you will have fun! I love the books, I need to read some again to get new ideas for pictures.

[shell gull]

AS S2 looking good, Nicky actually having Character is nice but Trinity is a Terrible Person for leaving Nicky in the Basement.

[rain sluice]

She was actually like that in books too

Wich is more interesting, than just all kids on the bright side. More believable

[safe charm]

Shagi Do you got any theory on what Nikita meant by that the Books are canon but not in the way we Think?

He also Said some People are on the right track

[fluid quail]

Hello I'm new

[rain sluice]

Personally I think it's from Nickys point of view so might the story is different from everyone's sight. Wich may cause differences in the storytelling. But I don't know of course how it all is going to be, as everyone else here

[safe charm]

Yeah

[dry patio]

Question:why did otto have museum key?

[pale urchin]

Irony plot

[spark tulip]

we don't know for sure

[stiff spire]

he thought it was cool to have

||/j||

[trail haven]

I got a cool question that might say my theory is correct: the idea of the shadow man isn't scrapped, we saw a leaked picture of him in as s2. So, nicky is the only one to see the real face of the guest, so he drew the big art on the wall because he was really scared of him.

[stiff spire]

shadow man was never scrapped

[trail haven]

People here said his idea was scrapped, because they didn't know what to do with it

[unkempt sleet]

Shadow Man isnt scrapped, and he isnt The Guest in S2

He is still the manifestation of Nicky's fear and trauma

[stiff spire]

plus he's the main over-arching villain of the whole franchise since HN1 I'd doubt they'd scrap him

but yeah

[safe charm]

Hi

[stiff spire]

hello

[granite portal]

what good yall im back \

[shell gull]

Not really, in the Books she was the more Morally normal Person of the group, but she was basically just Enzo’s GF and that’s it.

[snow mauve]

obv a lie

[shell gull]

The Thing is the Universal Trauma of Nicky.

[trail haven]

A lot of people said that

[snow mauve]

and those lot of people are liars lol

[trail haven]

I know

[silver vine]

The thing is the representation of fear and trauma

It's been confirmed for a long time

[willow depot]

why do people think that the missing journalist is mith

[rain sluice]

I was mainly referring to the scene where ||everyone finds the missing posters in Nicky's room and Keith is there and they all start accusing Nicky of making Peterson look guilty.
Nicky tried to defend the facts and also mentioned that he and Trinity saw a light from Aaron's room calling s-o-s. Trinity saw it but denied it in front of everyone, making Nicky look like a fool||

[unkempt sleet]

so true shagi
so true...

[willow depot]

to be fair it didn't seem like she locked the basement door or anything allowing Nicky to seemingly just walk out but it was still messed up, she could've just lead him outta the house lol

no wonder he has a breakdown down the line

[dry patio]

This is what should happen to trinity

[willow depot]

go easy on her

[harsh wigeon]

welcome to ravenj brooks is "avaible" on Prime video but it says its not avaible on my region is it only for the US?

raven*

[young kayak]

😔

[dry patio]

Nuh uh

[ripe berry]

welp
no surprise
the discussion on lore is basically dead

no new content does that to a channel like this

and we ain't the FNaF Community
we aren't having the same 3 debates on repeat for hours on end

[pale urchin]

Because hn is so 💀

[dry patio]

The only thing we can thoerize about is nikitas answers last week rn

[snow mauve]

To be fair there's really not much we can theorize

Other than just doing nonsense debates and answer some people's questions like "who's this" or "why is this"

[silver vine]

Guys

[dry patio]

?

[snow mauve]

And we'll never get to know what he'll say next 😔

[stiff spire]

hey guys I found something

[dreamy needle]

?

[muted moon]

guys

[willow depot]

Isn't it funny how The Raven Brooks Disaster book has the weather station and a (scrapped) Neighbor-Guest similarly to Hello Guest

[muted moon]

wdym a scrapped neighbor guest?

hes in the book

[willow depot]

Hello Guest had a scrapped level, the Mill, in which the Guest would have no mask, revealing itself to be Theodore

[muted moon]

yeah but how is that the same case for the book

(saying hes scrapped)

wait im probably just not understanding

[willow depot]

He was scrapped in the game

[muted moon]

yeah

[willow depot]

He's still in the book and all

Which is something I'm

Noting

[muted moon]

oh you just meant for the game

[willow depot]

Yes

That being said a part of me thinks that The Raven Brooks Disaster might've had some parts of the Hello Guest plot or something

[muted moon]

hello guest plot changed at least once

[willow depot]

Yah

[muted moon]

depending on if mill is hg then maybe twice

[unkempt sleet]

i dont think HG Theodore Guest was the same with the RBD Theodore Guest

[willow depot]

Well, I dunno, even with the state of the lore during HG alphas, I kinda doubt Theo had any reason to dress up into a crow costume

besides, his car is nowhere near the mill, so probably still a shapeshifter situation?

Doesn't matter much though, because in any case it'd be solving outdated lore

[crude dew]

oh thank GOD
on the day this community becomes like the fnaf one, we are doomed

there is a ton to talk about, including old storylines, people just don't care anymore
even though they are absolutely interesting

[crude dew]

it is literally confirmed that in HG the Neighbor was cosplaying as the Guest...literally there is evidence

[willow depot]

oh really?

[dry patio]

What are the most likely thoeries for hn prealpha/alpha1's story

[willow depot]

well uh is the utility pole plot is taken into account?

[dry patio]

Umm nikita showed a rumble on the mil video where ted was dressed up as guest

[willow depot]

I mean

Guest can literally

shapeshift

into people

[fiery hearth]

nikita said hg guest was never super natural

[willow depot]

oh

checks out then

[fiery hearth]

tb turned him supernatural for some reason

[willow depot]

unless alpha 1's intro with the basement is supposed just to be a teaser for that then I suppose

you could say that Theodore has set up the accident

for whatever gain

that's pretty much all you can say about

first two alphas

that he had a family too from the kids room in alpha 1 but aside from that there's not really anything one can think of

[crude dew]

faust

[quick fulcrum]

Um

So like

What the heck happened to reset day

And the other graphic novel

[safe charm]

Nothing

[quick fulcrum]

My question is

If tinybuild still considers them canon

[safe charm]

They are still canon yes

[quick fulcrum]

Cause they seem to take place after act 3

Or just before or somethin

Their definetly way further in the timeline

It just seems during the development of hn2, like during the alphas, the game was originally gonna take place after the first game.

Not in between

I know it was a work in progress build, and not meant to be accurate, they did add lore bits here and there. Also the general art style seems to be run down and old.

[dreamy needle]

books and games are not the same story

both are canon but progress in different ways.

[quick fulcrum]

Yes

But they have similarities

[dreamy needle]

yes

[quick fulcrum]

And the overall same overarching story

[dreamy needle]

actually, in HND, they were going to change the books a little more and adapt them to the game universe.

but

demagic games is bumms

[dreamy needle]

not aaron trilogy, graphic romans and reset day

just nicky trilogy

[quick fulcrum]

Although the books are not directly the same as the games

They are still Canon

And do still tell bits of the story

Also remember

Reset day came out 2021

Meaning it was probably planned in 2020

[safe charm]

Hi

[strange lance]

I am here

[quick fulcrum]

Or earlier maybe

[safe charm]

So if what your saying is right and theres different guest versions

Which is sn

In terms of lore

Old or the new guest

[quick fulcrum]

What ik saying is that reset day was written for the old hn2 lore

If I'm correct

[dreamy needle]

Enzo and Maritza are still brunette in Reset Day

[dreamy needle]

It's the same in the Nicky trilogy

buut

When the Nicky trilogy was being written, Enzo and Maritza's SN models were not yet available.

they couldn't make her brunette in one book and white in the other, so they stayed brunette in the Nicky trilogy.

they became white again in the Aaron trilogy

and reset day

Brunettes again

[quick fulcrum]

Huh

So

Tinybuild is kinda wierd

Jk

Anyways

Reset day was obviously made before hello neighbor 2 was in full development

[dreamy needle]

yes

[quick fulcrum]

Hello neighbor 2 was in very early stages

[dreamy needle]

the raven brooks disaster too

[quick fulcrum]

Yep

Those books I think are outdated or follow old lore

[dreamy needle]

they said the raven brooks disaster would be directly connected to hn2 but hn2 is 1996 and the graphic novel is 2010

and also

only Theo and Guest are in the main plot

[quick fulcrum]

EXACTLY

They don't follow hn2 anymore

Although the games and the books are not exact all the time

And can contradict

These differences are too much

[dreamy needle]

EVERYTHING is canon but how

and nikita said there will be no multiverse

[quick fulcrum]

Yeah

He never revealed how their Canon to each other though

[dreamy needle]

i miss the lore from 2018

it was easier

But now

books, animated series, games

#nog-simming there was something like this once and it is still unknown what it was.

[polar epoch]

Nikita said mayak is the anchor for hn franchise

[radiant isle]

Real man it’s like the same with fnaf, earlier times were easier with lore but now we’ve got all this and it’s so confusing

[dreamy needle]

fnaf lore used to be just a story about a man who killed 5 children and suffered the consequences with his family, but now it's ridiculous

What kind of crazy parent would take their child to a closed pizza place I don't know how many times?

[quick fulcrum]

I think they are all connected in one way or another, they can contradict in small amounts. But they all follow the same pattern. It only gets mixed up when hello neighbor 2 gets involved

[radiant isle]

Honest and it’s so messy with all these theory’s, books and just unrelated content marketed as ‘hello neighbour’ it’s so confusing at points

(Hn)

[dreamy needle]

what if it all turns out to be Theo's dream lol

[radiant isle]

It’s just turning into a mess

[quick fulcrum]

Wouldn't be suprised lol

[dreamy needle]

or

Theo is actually schizophrenic

[radiant isle]

They should start clearing stuff up than leaving the community with all of this to figure out

[quick fulcrum]

They have to clear it up

IM GOING INSANE

[dreamy needle]

The story is very messy

nicky's story

quentin's story

and now trinirty's story

If Demagic Games hadn't closed down, we could have actually seen where Nicky's story would have ended.

or

if the content expansion had not been cancelled

[radiant isle]

Cus like secret neighbour was released and suddenly we had a whole gang of kids instead of just nicky

[dreamy needle]

also

We are used to Enzo, Maritza and Trinity from books.

but

Ivan, Finch and Delroy suddenly appeared

[radiant isle]

I’m happy the series clears a lot of stuff up cus I can play the games and stuff but I cba to read all the books just cus I really hate reading so since a bunch of the lore mainly comes from the books I rely on theory videos and stuff to keep me up to date

[dreamy needle]

maybe

If matpad focused on hn

rhe story could have moved faster

cuz

Other fandoms besides the hn fandom don't care about the spin-off games or books that come out.

most people only know hn, h&s and hn2

[crude dew]

yes, i think it came out after they scrapped hn2 alphas..pretty old. Old.

[radiant isle]

Anyone heard the theory about the forest people and the guest

It’s apparently there’s group, cult like and they cursed raven brooks

They live in the forest as per the name

[unkempt sleet]

forest protectors

[radiant isle]

YES

Isn’t the guest apart of them

I think I heard it from matpat

[unkempt sleet]

That's debatable, I think Guest is a separate entity from the cult, but is using the cult aswell

[radiant isle]

That’s true the guest does seem to be more than thrm

I think ur most likely right he seems to be more but he’s got to be some entity of sorts

Because he’s literally got a beak for a face and his his clothes resemble the neighbor

[dreamy needle]

i think

The forest protectors may view Guest as a deity.

[unkempt sleet]

Yea, that makes it easier for Guest to manipulate them...

[shell gull]

Yeah that’s a clear showcase of her not wanting to seem crazy like Nicky.

[mighty spoke]

hi

wanna play hello multiplayer? for lore check ...

[mighty spoke]

exactly what i think it is a cultish bull shit going on in ravenbrooks

[mighty spoke]

anyone up

?

noone here???

wth

[unkempt sleet]

Not everyone can be online and hang around in lore discussion all the time smh

[mighty spoke]

i mean this server dead, fax.

[mental gust]

pre-alpha to alpha 2 are just alternative universes where tall windows werent popularized

[wraith hawk]

pre-alpha and alpha 1 are alternate universes where hello neighbor isn’t a cartoony kids parkour game

[muted moon]

Im pretty sure they had already decided to change the artstyle before the pre alpha released

[wraith hawk]

yeah I know, very unfortunate

[mighty spoke]

anyone want to play hello multiplayer for lore ?

dead as always...

[mighty spoke]

hey

[trail haven]

How'd you got this gif of me after I captured myself in hello neighbor 2?!?

[mighty spoke]

lol

[mighty spoke]

Hi.. i am pireprince and i have found something crazy in hello neighbour alpha 4 so i request everyone to download it and add the "hello multiplayer mod " in it so me and others and you will find about the lore

anyone

?

hello?

[dry patio]

This is the solved version i think? "1003063 is running again. the second third is available. i need help keep it a secret. if they find out, they mighéabridged me."

I found this from a deleted user 7years ago

[mighty spoke]

i mean what are you trynna say?

say it clearly

[dry patio]

The binary code you showed

[mighty spoke]

yes

you got any info bout it?

[dry patio]

No

[mighty spoke]

i get it

[dry patio]

Thats all i know

[mighty spoke]

so the binary code says

[mighty spoke]

i see

so This is the solved version i think? "1003063 is running again. the second third is available. i need help keep it a secret. if they find out, they mighéabridged me."

this thing

[dry patio]

"1003063 Is running again. The second third is available. I need help keep it a secret. If they find out, they might abridged me" fixed version

[mighty spoke]

is what it says

[dry patio]

Yes

[mighty spoke]

ii think i should check it once

i have the game already as ya'll know

just download it we will trynna get a bit deeper....

[mighty spoke]

should we?

[dry patio]

I dont have multiplayer mod sadly

[mighty spoke]

its alright just do me a favour go to the exact place of this binary code

[mighty spoke]

btw

you can download it and modkit to add the mod👍

[old glacier]

i forgot 1003063 existed
thank god it was nothing

[mighty spoke]

oh, i am just trying to dig down a bit of this rabbit hole

[old glacier]

have fun
this is stretched till full game of hn1 btw

[mighty spoke]

maybe i find nothin' but its worth it

[mighty spoke]

sure it will

thanks tho

[old glacier]

wait i'm not even sure it's solvable anymore because there was a site involved and that closed i believe

[mighty spoke]

i will try to find the older ver. it will help maybe

or an alter

[old glacier]

oh it's on wayback machine
nvm then

[mighty spoke]

btw you rememberthe "unreal missing " error

they say it helps in solving the mystery

so i am going to investigate that as well

[old glacier]

yeah it's all connected

[mighty spoke]

i see

i was seeing the files to find more and got this'

[crude dew]

yes, this is what the binary is saying
it was an ARG in HN

[shell gull]

You can go further and say most of the things she did was to fit in after what happened in Aaron’s Trilogy.

[tribal talon]

hello chat

hello neighbor takes place in 1997 ATLEAST

also im a strong beilever that its in 2017 because of the iphone 10 the kids carry around during the show

[shell gull]

HN1 takes place in the 1990s while the Show is a different Story and is different from HN1.

[dreamy needle]

hn takes place 96

and

wtrb 2020+

[mighty spoke]

19/09/2024, I have gone far enough or depeer in this rabbit hole this extends to hnd and i think i am on the way of finding the truth.....

i will keep this updated

[mighty spoke]

i found this in the files of hello neighbour

[silver vine]

everything is canon 😃

[dry patio]

I like perspective thoery more than mayak

[trail haven]

My theory is that act 1 is nicky imagining what happened to him while he was in the basement. He seems pretty selfish so maybe he imagines it without his friends.

[dreamy needle]

buried secrets last 2 or 3 chapters is actually act 1

the books and games do not follow the same timeline, but many of the book's events match the games.

[trail haven]

What happend there? I didn't read them

*it

[dreamy needle]

act1 but it's midnight and rainy

and also

If I remember correctly, Theo threw Nicky into the washing machine and locked him in here

nicky was wandering around the basement with no return

and the three locks at the end of act1 are not on the door

There is a lock and Nicky breaks it with a flashlight (i wish there was such a mechanic in the game)

[tribal talon]

isnt hn1 just how nicky remembers it and the show is real?

[unkempt sleet]

i personally think the show and the games are different continuities

[dreamy needle]

nope

act 1 still nicky's false memories

but a different timeline in the show

[unkempt sleet]

Act 1 and 2 is memories in HN1 anyway, so like they might not %100 be right

[strange lance]

act 1 is real, act 2 is a distorted memory, act 3 and act finale are self therapy

this has been said many times

we see what act 2 really was in hnvr's ending

[dreamy needle]

how act1 is real?

[strange lance]

wdym how

its nicky breaking in the house

and theres nothing abnormal about it

[dreamy needle]

peterson catches Nicky before he can enter the house, i mean in the opening cutscene

[dreamy needle]

If the puzzles are not considered canon then yes there is nothing unusual.

[strange lance]

the puzzles are canon

they're even in the books

thats "normal" by teds house standards

[strange lance]

as for this idk what that was about, in the books it changed to Nicky running back to his house after ted sees him through the window which makes more sense

I think ted just tossed him on the side of the road

[unkempt sleet]

i mean Act 1 is still a memory even if it displays the events accurate
i see Act 1 and 2 as Nicky's memories playing while he's sleeping before waking up at the apartment at the start of Act 3

[dreamy needle]

For example, how did Theo put the lock pick in the room he locked with the lock pick?

[strange lance]

well yeah act 1 is a literal memory playing in nickys head before he wakes up in act 3, I was talking about the events specifically mb

[dreamy needle]

the events are almost the same as the book

[strange lance]

lock picks do not lock doors, they pick locks to unlock them

and he probably threw the actual key away or something

but its 100% just a gameplay thing lmao

so you have to use the magnet gun

[dreamy needle]

the events in the basement are definitely not real

[strange lance]

they are as also seen in the books

down to the long windy hallway with the big door

[unkempt sleet]

The big basement is in the books yea

its also like real accurate to HN1 with the powerbox after the fake windows and stuff

[dreamy needle]

i mean that generator thing

[strange lance]

?

the one that powers the gate?

[dreamy needle]

yes

[strange lance]

why would a generator not be real

what

also if you're wondering where the hn1 basement went in hn2 and hnvr its because ted walled it off

[unkempt sleet]

i like that Aaron Trilogy explained the big basement with the tunnels, while Nicky Trilogy just didnt explain it other than showing its real

[dreamy needle]

i think the act1 basement is much bigger than the basement in the book

[dreamy needle]

i remember finding a few cells while exploring

[dreamy needle]

i remember this too

i guess there was a tunnel from the Golden Apple amusement park to the basement

[strange lance]

yes

and to mayak and observatory etc

and everywhere else

[dreamy needle]

ill reread the books when I have free time.

[strange lance]

and reminder that the rooms Nicky and Aaron are locked in (the same ones from the act 2 intro) are not the real basement, these are in guest world. This obviously wasn't the original plan back then but that's what it is now

[dreamy needle]

It's been a long time since I read it

[unkempt sleet]

i just finished rereading them

Theyre cool

[dreamy needle]

hello Neighbor lore is very hard to understand

[unkempt sleet]

Wait wait wait hold on
is the second image the outside of the room Aaron was locked in, the one where he accepts Guests deal

[safe charm]

Dude

It is

[unkempt sleet]

Grah

I hate not being able to play HNVR

[dreamy needle]

the books help us a lot, but they take place in a different timeline than the games, right?

[unkempt sleet]

i always wondered what was outside of Aarons room

[safe charm]

It’s hard to tell

[unkempt sleet]

if you ask me i'd say yes

[safe charm]

I would say yes but idk

[unkempt sleet]

They have a lot of inconsistencies with the games too, so it makes things easier

[safe charm]

It could be something else

[dreamy needle]

they tried to soft reboot the nicky trilogy in nicky's diaries

[safe charm]

Not really imo

It’s basically book 1

[dreamy needle]

maybe we could even see how Act 1 actually lived in his Buried Secrets memoirs.

[dreamy needle]

yes but It seems a little different

[strange lance]

Yeah ted decided to lock them right next to each other he's so stupid 😭

[dreamy needle]

and also proves that the books and games are not from the same time period where ivan and delroy came from

also

How is Hello Engineer in the story? 💀

[strange lance]

between SN and hnvr

its just a silly adventure basically

[unkempt sleet]

it is but its kinda disconnected to the main plot

[dreamy needle]

ik but hello engineer nonsense

[strange lance]

its not that important besides like a few time loop lore stuff

[dreamy needle]

a pointless spin-off

[strange lance]

it wasn't always gonna be one...

😔

😭

[dreamy needle]

this may be an indication of why it is not popular

[strange lance]

I will never not be sad over what they did to HE

prequel game to all of hn or....another rescue squad game with boring gameplay?!?>!?!

[dreamy needle]

patch 9 or hn2 Act2

...

[strange lance]

how do flop this hard

it was so easy

[dreamy needle]

Is this story before or after hn2?

[strange lance]

which one

[dreamy needle]

It's like a side quest but it doesn't connect to the end of hn2.

[strange lance]

the forest was gonna be part of a larger update but I guess things didn't work out

[dreamy needle]

patch 9 is called act2 in the files

[strange lance]

so rn its just a side quest

with a bad ending

[dreamy needle]

maybe just a bridge for patch 10

[ripe berry]

which AS somewhat replicates but does a poor job of showing it
you kinda got to piece together that the places with Tunnels in them are connected to the other places with Tunnels in them

[dreamy needle]

patch 9 actually brought back the old hn2 stuff, Beatrix, TMITH, guest etc.

[dreamy needle]

i expected them to do better

[crude dew]

who is tmith

[silver cargo]

"The man in the hat".

I think.

[crude dew]

the hat man in the hat sombrero man

[shell gull]

They show the Tunnels but don’t actually tell us they lead anywhere expect that “Oh there’s Tunnels under the School”

[ripe berry]

yeah

we kinda have to just guess from "oh, Ted's Basement is similar tunnels" and "oh, the tunnels under Mayak are also similiar tunnels" that they're all a part of a larger network of Tunnels under Raven Brooks

I will say the Mayak Tunnels do the best job at showing the Tunnels are linked in the AS so far since they show the Tunnels can lead to other areas (although what the other area is hasn't yet been shown)

[shell gull]

I hope they have a Episode where they use the Tunnels to traverse.

[ripe berry]

yeah

[shell gull]

Though taking in the fact that the Catacombs are apart of the Tunnels there could be other variation of Tunnels we haven’t seen yet.

[zinc jetty]

Madness

[tribal talon]

chat for anyone who is confused about the show's continuity and the whole hello neighbor 2 thing.... the newer games/books/episodes will obviously contradict the older ones because its been changed. for example we see in hn1 that nicky was alone the whole time and the act 3 house was just a dream but in the new series we see nicky was actually with his friends the whole time and the act 2 house never existed and it was just the act 3 house. also that explains why the setting of hello neighbor went from the 1990s to 2017 atleast.

i solved the lore

also that explains why in the show ted was caught and arrested but in the old game he ran away before the police showed up

the old game is hn2

[safe charm]

Hn2 is tied

With the AS

[tribal talon]

what does as stand for?

@safe charm

[safe charm]

Animated series

Also you played the vr game?

By steel wool

[tribal talon]

oh

nope

[safe charm]

Guest basically is in it

[tribal talon]

ok

so whats it about?

[safe charm]

It’s about what happens right before

Hn2

[tribal talon]

oh

[safe charm]

In hnvr Aaron saves Nicky

Like in hn1

Which is weird

Cause the AS

[safe charm]

You actually get to play as the guest chasing mr Peterson

lol

[tribal talon]

lol

[safe charm]

Also it’s kinda established guest isn’t human

He can shapeshift into a crow

[safe charm]

Anyways I’m happy AS references the hn1 alphas a lot

The neighbor is also more ruthless again

You should get the hn books they’re pretty good

At least the first 6

[tribal talon]

im actually currently reading the second one

[safe charm]

I think the books and AS got the best

Neighbor

He’s the most intimidating in them

[tribal talon]

frfr

[safe charm]

The game version so far hasn’t been that intimidating except hn2 version sometimes

[tribal talon]

frfr

he seems goofy

i used to play the game alot as a kid

[safe charm]

The creator did say they turned him more into an actual villain again

While in hn1 he was more broken

Sad man

[tribal talon]

yeah

[safe charm]

The ceo said he wants them to remake hn1 eventually

So the story will probably fit more with the new stuff

[tribal talon]

yeah

[safe charm]

https://youtube.com/clip/UgkxEh_UsyYB1YLCePoLgtoPr4Zin_nO6KYN?si=6esbvn-TvHna8jXG

Btw here’s a clip

Guest interacting

With the neighbor son

Aaron

[tribal talon]

coolio

[dreamy needle]

nope

[tribal talon]

wdym nope

[dreamy needle]

books, games, cartoons etc. all have their own story but they are all connected, none of them contradict each other, they will all connect but I don't think we can figure it out yet

[tribal talon]

so from what ive gathered its all different continuitys

if so then the games are my least fav

[dreamy needle]

and at the same time i don't think the cartoon takes place in 2017

It doesn't work the same way as the real universe.

In this universe, there are both smartphones and square televisions

[tribal talon]

the old tv DID always bother me

even when nicky grew up in the games

he kept it

[dreamy needle]

Because the furniture in the house was not moved

if you mean the stuff in the apartment

We know that Nicky is already poor, so she may not have been able to afford a better furnished apartment.

But I just remembered about pay phones and it completely disproves me.

forget about it lol

[snow mauve]

Everything is canon!

[dreamy needle]

yep

[tribal talon]

wait

i forgot what pay phones are

ik its crazy

[snow mauve]

Michael! don't leave me here!!!

[tribal talon]

FNAF REFERENCE

[snow mauve]

Damn

[tribal talon]

frfr

all i did was type rah with multiple h and it told me i was spamming

this is broken like the neighbor's ai

[snow mauve]

Yeah don't do that lol

[snow mauve]

that's just how the bot is programmed to do even if it's bull shit

[dreamy needle]

Is the dark neighbor, the black neighbor (whatever that is) that appears in the basement in the nicky's diaries game something related to the thing?

The reason I think this is because Nicky was dreaming about The Thing while he was in the basement between act1-act2

He also sees the Thing in the basement during therapy in Act 3.

[tribal talon]

its called nickys DIARES for a reason. prolly just how nicky saw it

[dreamy needle]

hemust be associating the basement with the thing

[dreamy needle]

so

Nicky also imagined the thing in mrpeterson variation

[snow mauve]

Because

Shadowmannnm

[dreamy needle]

between act2-act3

[snow mauve]

What are you talking about again

[dreamy needle]

The gameplay takes place entirely in Nicky's mind, right?
and remembering in his mind what he had experienced before, even if it was wrong, from his own perspective he enters his neighbor's house again,
He associates the basement with the thing because he gained the thing in the basement and he thinks of it as an entity in the basement.
After all, his fear is of Mr. Peterson, so he may have imagined The Thing as Mr. Peterson in act2 or act3, or perhaps in a few more variations. Or maybe there are several The Things.

[snow mauve]

Hello neighbor diaries?

You're talking about

Orrrr?

[dreamy needle]

yes

[snow mauve]

Oh yeah HND is just Nicky going through his head to try to remember stuff

While creating his own imagination plus dealing with his fears again?

Cuz gameplay design

And it clearly takes place after HN1 act 3

[dreamy needle]

yes

You probably didn't understand what I said or didn't read it completely, the shadow neighbor in the basement might actually be a variation of the thing that Nicky had previously imagined.

[snow mauve]

Eh idk about that

I don't think it means anything

[safe charm]

Hnvr is so weird the basement corridor room where Nicky is locked in

Has like 3 variations

[snow mauve]

it's just a smolll basement

And his room is like all the way there

[safe charm]

Hnvr story makes a lot of sense and no sense at the same time for me

[snow mauve]

It's hello neighbor after all

Make it mysterious and nonsense

[shell gull]

No, everything is Canon.

[shell gull]

Kinda the point of HN, Theory Bait is what they always do.

[safe charm]

Well I’m confused

What lingering

Questions

It even answered

[dry patio]

Infact it gave more questions

[unkempt sleet]

it answered the relation between Aaron and Guest smh

[silver vine]

What is their relation

[unkempt sleet]

Basically Ford and Bill Cipher

[silver vine]

I know neither

[unkempt sleet]

You havent watched Gravity Falls

[silver vine]

No

[unkempt sleet]

and you love discussing lore stuff in media

[silver vine]

Dude

Just say

[muted moon]

i just realised your guestyyy

[vernal onyx]

new game theory: signed is pre alpha man but he went insane, lost a bunch of weight, put a sign on as a mask, gained a severe hunchback, and cloned himself several times
how do i know this? the headshape of the signed and pre alpha man are vaguely similar

also what if nicky hired the neighbor to kill pre alpha man in hn alpha 1, the basement being bait, and when nicky moved in in alpha 1.5, the basement was still boarded, and every time he went in the basement, time would loop, but become more demented and cartoon like, but when the pre alpha man got buried in alpha 1, he had the shovel on him still, allowing him to break free and after the hurricane, he slowly went insane, and thats my theory about the hn1 art style and how pre alpha man is the signed

[old glacier]

that implies hg vandals are pre alfa man

[vernal onyx]

hg and hn2 are in an alternate universe

[shell gull]

The Guest I assume.

[granite portal]

yo what is good lets talk about hns2

Z

[tribal talon]

i aint dying until i know who this guy is

[snow mauve]

thats nicky but old as hell

mystery ended

[tribal talon]

e

ok

[snow mauve]

NO

[tribal talon]

h u h

im surprised how this guy runs faster than literally every character in the hn franchise lol

[snow mauve]

i mean youve seen him running around the neighborhood

[tribal talon]

ye

when i move into a house im playing this music on my phone

[snow mauve]

thats not lore related

grrrrrr

[tribal talon]

grrrrrrr

sorry

[dreamy needle]

this is just Nicky without a model

why are they trying to make sense of this character?

[dry patio]

Pre alpha nicky

[mighty spoke]

21/09/2024 i have almost reached the end the end of this...1003063

[tribal talon]

a

ok

[tribal talon]

i wish they made a textured model of it, it just looks so cool and the animations it has is epik

[muted moon]

they did

it was never used though

[tribal talon]

oh

[muted moon]

and was missing a head

[tribal talon]

ok

e

ok

[muted moon]

it had some alpha 2 animations so it was probably made for alpha 2

before nicky

[tribal talon]

oh ok

[safe charm]

If they do a hn1 remake hypothetically would you want act 1 to be closer to ep4 or the books

Or just stay exactly the same

[tribal talon]

eh closer to the books

[safe charm]

I would want a mix of book 3 and current hn1 version

[tribal talon]

so that people can have a better understanding of the story when playing

[tribal talon]

cool

[mighty spoke]

hi

[tribal talon]

hi

[tribal talon]

an old model for the player.

[tribal talon]

id want it to be a mix of book3 with ep4

e

wait

where is the gif i sent

[tribal talon]

idk

[ornate grove]

pre

alpha

man

[vernal onyx]

signed

[crude dew]

this is the player from the prealpha times. He did not get a model until alpha 1.5 so they used that. People who call him Nicky, dont know that there were multiple players🤣

[tribal talon]

looolllll

https://tenor.com/view/the-flash-barry-allen-run-fast-gif-6144593

neighbor in alpha 2 be like:

[lunar vale]

Guys when you think about it in hello neighbour 2 late fee’s the player is the bad guy because the librarian is just doing her job

[wooden whale]

guys so there won’t be 8th and 9th book about Piper, am I right?

[safe charm]

We don’t know

[wooden whale]

that would be sad, cuz I really think that Piper’s story has a lot more potential than what we’ve got in HN2

[silver vine]

No

Book 7 was always supposed to be the final book

[silver vine]

Oh we do tho

[safe charm]

Well how are they gonna follow it up

[silver vine]

HN2

[safe charm]

Well it’s before reset day

[silver vine]

Or maybe AS

[tribal talon]

chat ive finally finished buried secrets

what book comes next?

[unkempt sleet]

Bad Blood

its the start of the Aaron Trilogy

it takes place before Nicky Trilogy in the timeline

[chrome maple]

what books are in tha aaron trilogy?

[unkempt sleet]

Bad Blood, Grave Mistakes and Puzzle Master

[tribal talon]

isnt there a 7th book?

[unkempt sleet]

There is

Reset Day

it's not a part of Aaron or Nickt Trilogy, it also ends with a cliffhanger

and we dont have a 8th book... So yea

[ripe berry]

there's also technically the 2 Graphic Novels and the Guidebook

if you want to know the lore I'd recommend avoiding the Guidebook or using it very carefully as it's full of misinformation

I mean the Guidebook isn't even accurate in terms of Gameplay

it somehow mistook the HN PROTOTYPE HOUSE LAYOUT for the Second Floor of the Act 1 House

so it's best to take any lore it gives with a entire salt-shaker's worth of salt

[silver vine]

Dude

Why are everyone forgetting that it was the guidebook which first revealed that the SN kids are the book characters

It was a HUGE thing back then

[unkempt sleet]

back then

we are in the now though

[silver vine]

Dang

[unkempt sleet]

Like back then you would know the kids names by looking at the guidebook

But now even the SN hints tell you their names

[ripe berry]

yeah but does something pretty much every source since has reiterated really outweigh all the mistakes the book makes with lore

getting one thing right doesn't automatically make you 100% reliable

[ripe berry]

SN Hints that I'm 99% sure were copy-pasting things from the Fandom Wiki

because they got Otto's last name wrong when he was first added
and it was the same exact spelling the fandom wiki was using

Canandra instead of Kinander

[unkempt sleet]

That doesnt change the fact that you can learn the kids name from SN now

[ripe berry]

yeah

or hell

just watch like 3 episodes of AS and you'll know all of their names except Finch

[ripe berry]

this way you dont have to go through 10 loading screen tips to learn that Enzo and Maritza are related

[shell gull]

It wouldn’t get a Continuation since the Plan was for HN2 to explain everything before it got changed.

[unkempt sleet]

Yea I dont think piper and the other characters like were gonna appear in HN2 at any point

the concept might've been explained but like you cant conclude the story in HN2

to conclude a book you need a book

[ripe berry]

also just gonna say it
I don't think they changed the plot of HN2 that drastically

they both have the Guest leading Quentin using Aaron

and the last passage of the Reset Day Description is interesting

it says the book teaches more about Forest Protectors AND ties into the "new game"

except Forest Protectors only appear for like 2 pages and you hardly learn anything about them

so the only thing this could be referring to is the Guest themselves, which HN2 has linked to the Cult/Forest Protectors

thus, just like with story expansion, the plot got retooled/reworked into the stuff we see in HN2 FG

it's the same plot, just with some details changed

plus Nikita said in a QnA after Leslie/Keith (thus talking about the "Alpha 2"/Beta Storyline) was introduced that while the Guest was new to us he's existed in Raven Brooks for awhile

[shell gull]

Hmm, Interesting, also explain how The Guest uses Aaron to get Quentin, you saying The Guest was Aaron or He had him as a Bait, or something else.

[ripe berry]

Missing Journalist existed in the Beta Plotline

[shell gull]

Good point there.

[ripe berry]

in the Beta the Fake Aaron in the Attic is used to lure Quentin to a place where the Guest then seemingly attacks him while he's caught offguarf

in FG Quentin is lured to the Attic to save Aaron by the Guest and is caught off-guard when Aaron goes to run to Ted allowing a Cultist (a group that in FG is definitely linked to the Guest) to sneak up behind Quentin and knock him out

[ripe berry]

Blue Tape is basically a reworked version of the Beta Barn Tutorial Sequence

a good chunk of the old plot is reused in some way in the current storyline for HN2

[ripe berry]

this is what I was thinking of
the Beta has Quentin thinking Ted has Aaron in the Museum's Attic and proceeding to break into several houses before getting up to the Attic to save Aaron, where afterwards he is caught off-guard and then the Guest attacks him
the Full Game has Quentin thinking Ted has Aaron in the Museum's Attic and proceeding to break into several houses due to guidance from the Guest before getting up to the Attic to save Aaron, where afterwards he is caught off-guard and then the Cult that the Guest is linked to attacks him

only real difference is it's made more obvious the Guest is trying to lure Quentin since the game is more linear now, allowing them to have the Guest be luring Quentin to specific places

the Beta is spoiler-free because it's only a small chunk of the final plot and some details were changed between the Beta and Full Release (like Quentin now arrives BEFORE Ted Flees his house rather then After like in the Beta)

[shell gull]

That’s actually a really Good Catch.

Makes sense knowing The Guest had been purposely Helping Quentin throughout the Game by having Crows lure him to where he needs to go.

[ripe berry]

like I'd say showing footage of HNHS Demo is Spoiler-Free because it reveals almost nothing about the game's plot and some things were changed after the Demo

[ripe berry]

yeah

[ripe berry]

or showing footage of HN1 Act 1 is spoiler free because
with ONLY HN1 Act 1 could you piece together the entire plot of HN1?
No.
You could get a rough idea of what comes next
but you wouldn't be able to predict what occurs in Act 3 or Finale

[shell gull]

I think taking in the fact The Guest had been purposely helping him behind The Cults back makes sense, he knew The Cult would catch on to him so why not boost that chance to bring him to you.

[ripe berry]

the Guest's goals with Quentin are unknown
but at the same time it seems the Guest has something specific in mind with Quentin

wait
forgot there's actually a example of the Guest leading Quentin in the Beta!

[shell gull]

I’m guessing he wants him obviously to join The Cult but also seeing what he’s capable of, remember he is “The Puzzle Master”

[ripe berry]

during the First Night, if you try to stray from the path to Ted's House, the Guest will "attack" you to put you back on track

brb

[shell gull]

Good point there too, also in the Barn The Guest breaks the Barn Door open but doesn’t attack Quentin, he helped him get out but still attacked him either way.

[shell gull]

Ok

[ripe berry]

but there it's unclear if we actually play as Quentin or if they just didn't have a player model for the Missing Journalist

[shell gull]

True, that could have been the Case especially since the Barn was an actual place on the Map and not some made up Place in his Dream, and also since the Barn door stays open after the Sequence.

[ripe berry]

while I'd normally hate Normantin at the same time it seems like the most logical option at this point

[ripe berry]

yeah
they specifically changed it so the Barn Doors would remain open after the Tutorial

[shell gull]

Mhm.

[ripe berry]

on launch of the Beta the Barn Doors closed after the Tutorial

[silver vine]

why are there textwalls now

[ripe berry]

conversation about how much the HN2 Plot changed between the Beta and FG

[shell gull]

Yeah, makes sense since they may have reused an Older Build Version to add the Changes and forgot to change the Barn door back closed.

[ripe berry]

(again: I'm pretty sure it's mostly the same plot between Beta and FG, but like what's happening with the Story Expansion atm they reworked some things, but if you pay attention most of the plot from the Beta is reused in FG in one way or another)

[shell gull]

Yeah it’s just more Vague in some ways.

[ripe berry]

Barn Tutorial - Blue Tape
MJ existed in the Beta Plot
This bit (I'm replying to it) implying the Guest and Forest Protectors were linked even back then
(on Night 1 in the Beta at least) The Guest is leading Quentin like in FG
Ted flees from the Cops to the Museum
Both (currently) End with something to do with Aaron catching Quentin offguard and then the Guest/someone connected with the Guest popping up behind him to attack

and again

it's "spoiler free" because
tell me
could you piece together the entire plot of HN1 using ONLY Act 1?

you might be able to get Act 2 figured out

but certaintly not Act 3 or Finale

and this would be assuming they hadn't yet made any changes at all to the plot of HN2 by the time the Beta released

[shell gull]

That makes sense, it’s still Spoiler Free since you’re only seeing a Tiny Bit of the Plot and not the Main Focus.

[ripe berry]

yeah

like HNHS Demo could be called Spoiler Free since it hardly reveals any of the actual plot of HNHS

[shell gull]

Mhm.

[ripe berry]

despite the fact it's basically the exact same as the Final HNHS Stage 1

[shell gull]

To be fair the Demo for HN1 is Act 1 and a lot of Games usually have one of their First Segment as a Demo

[ripe berry]

yeah

and those demos are usually labelled spoiler-free

[shell gull]

Mhm.

[ripe berry]

how would this be any different
it's what was at the time HN2 Act 1

[shell gull]

True just way more Simple

[ripe berry]

(I mean, Time Loops are basically confirmed at this point and Norman knows more then he should)

(and Quentin's the only other person who could learn of that information that fits Norman's Description)

[safe charm]

Hi

[shell gull]

Dmndnansncncnncnfndnsnskskfnncncnfjdkdjdndnxnvnf

[ripe berry]

you ok there Sh1mp?

[safe charm]

In hnvr he feels a bit different from hn2/AS guest which now is a problem because everything is canon apparently

So they go against each other

A little bit

[shell gull]

No, I’m fighting the urge to play HN2 after not touching it for over 7 months.

[safe charm]

Also we know hnvr

Connects with hn2 or is supposed too

If it does idk

This was in may 2023

So it’s not before hn2 launch

[shell gull]

Well I mean we know the whole relationship between Guest and Aaron, Aaron being Bait for Quentin.

[safe charm]

The game also apperantly holds answers

To some of our questions

It’s just what I can’t really understand besides Aaron and guest having a connection

[shell gull]

Yeah guess it’s something we haven’t noticed.

[ripe berry]

or maybe we don't have the other half to the Question yet

like with FNaF and the Box
The Box is the setup for a idea that never got finished

like maybe there's a answer in HNVR
but due to HN2 only being Act 1 we don't got the Question the Answer is for yet

or maybe we already figured something out and haven't realized how HNVR links to that yet

[shell gull]

True.

[granite portal]

hullo \

yall cant wait for s2 oct ???

i hope it comes out in oct 24 maybe 13 ????

[wraith hawk]

is it true the lore of hello neighbor switched close to the full release because matpat just completely guessed it

[unkempt sleet]

Nope

They changed the story in the full release because the old one was not good

The game that "changed the story because Matt guessed it" that he mentioned in that one video is not HN

[wraith hawk]

honestly I can’t at all remember the lore before the full release or after

something about one of the children being locked in the basement and you overcoming your fears

[unkempt sleet]

Yea thats the full release story
it was something like "Neighbor is your father" and if you go more back "You're in a coma" or something like that with the older builds

[wraith hawk]

I still don’t like how all of act 3/finale in the full game is just the whole overused “oooohh you’re in a dream and it was a dream the whole time ooooohhh”

[unkempt sleet]

i'm geniunely happy that they didnt go with the Father storyline that they were going towards with the betas

[wraith hawk]

also what was the point of the ending of alpha 3 what was the neighbor crying about

[unkempt sleet]

Technically it is not just a dream, it's more than a dream. It's the main character overcoming his trauma from over the years, conveyed through a dream

[unkempt sleet]

Yea that i dont remember rn honestly

[wraith hawk]

i thought i saw what it was at some point and i just don’t remember what he was crying about

maybe it was the horrible lighting in alpha 3 or the slightly squished door and window assets used throughout the whole game

[unkempt sleet]

#old-rbo-discussion message Nikita himself explains it better

[wraith hawk]

oh so the struggle the player has beating the game (mostly the struggle with physics engine and parkour and unexplainable puzzles) is actually just nicky overcoming his past

[unkempt sleet]

Yea, exactly

Lol

[safe charm]

Also the story now is much more then just hn1

[wraith hawk]

still do not get how they managed to make the physics engine actually worse in the latest hn1 patch than before

[unkempt sleet]

Yea we're discussing HN1 rn though smh

[wraith hawk]

you can like actually feel the difference just by going into the 32 bit version on steam, the physics engine is better in the first full release compared to now

[unkempt sleet]

i havent played the launch build so i cant comment

[safe charm]

Played hn2?

[wraith hawk]

if you have the steam version right click, go into properties, betas, opt into 32bittest and you have the launch version

It’s much more difficult to die by doing nothing (unless you’re on the train in act 3) on the launch version than in the latest patch

So basically first they made the alphas better than the full release then they made the previous versions of the full release better than the latest version of the full release

[crude dew]

guys there is NO coma, stop spreading this 😭

read. Faust. finally.

[safe charm]

Still it was changed for a reason

So it probably wasn’t good like at all

[silver vine]

Dude

Act 3/finale wasn't a dream

It has been confirmed several times

[dry patio]

??????how

[tribal talon]

THEN WHAT THE SIGMA IS IT?

no way the neighbor came back in the span of maybe 3 hours and built a million story house

[wraith hawk]

if its a hallucination then that would be so unbelievable to anyone driving by to just see this guy like floating 10 stories up over an abandoned burnt down skeleton of a house

[dry patio]

And also being able to double jump go into doors that have a entire school and shopping mall

[dry patio]

It didnt sound like a good story at all

[wraith hawk]

and also the entire whatever the finale could possibly be

[silver vine]

Self therapy

[silver vine]

#old-rbo-discussion message

I suppose you've already seen this

But this isn't the first time Nikita has said

He's said in several QNA sessions, livestreams, chats

That act 3/finale is not a dream

It is very real for Nicky

It is his self therapy

[silver vine]

Yeah

And if you read the books, you'd again know how important act 3 was in Nicky's life

[wraith hawk]

but like how is he seeing it if it’s all internal

[manic sundial]

Technically he is not “seeing it”. We as a player, see it, but Nicky “feels” it.

[wraith hawk]

ah ok

it all makes sense now, the physics engine was in our mind to begin with

[unkempt sleet]

Nikita appearance in lore discussion goes crazy

[silver vine]

Atleast now can y'all please stop calling act 3 as a dream

[unkempt sleet]

It's still presented as a dream for a player that's playing the game, but storywise it's not a dream i guess

[spark tulip]

please, get reposted by Hello Neighbor Games....... 🙏

[unkempt sleet]

Nox thats really lore of you

[spark tulip]

oops.

i thought this was main chat

[crude dew]

omg Nikita in lore discussion

if I find the timestamp where the act 3 house was discussed in the stream (iirc it was a stream) I swear I’ll cut it out and send it to people when this comes up bruh.

[light citrus]

PLEASE MAN I NEED HOPE

[wraith hawk]

Can they discuss what the missing textures on some parts of the house mean in terms of Nicky’s self therapy

[ripe berry]

I mean for the sake of the game we're seeing what Nicky is feeling

like how Nicky takes only a single day to recover from trauma he's had for 19+ years

It's like how in SN they aren't actually breaking in

it's simply them planning the break-in

but we see it as if it's real so there can be actual gameplay

or like how the Car Crash Scene in HN1 isn't 1:1 with reality

or how in that one part of the Blood Ties/Rollercoaster Scene the house is upside down

it's not actually upside down in reality

it's that way to represent the Emotions of the moment

mixing what is seen (Ted's Living Room) with the fear/sadness/anger/agony that is felt

it's like how in HNHS Stage 4 there's a obvious tone shift from stages 1-3

because Mya's joy has turned into Sadness

[shell gull]

If it did…

[shell gull]

I find this Image odd, it shows what seems to be The Thing but you also see swirls everywhere which are a common depiction for Loops, you also see the Eyes which are The Cult Symbol.

[silver vine]

It's a drawing

By Nicky

[shell gull]

I know, but it has The Cult Symbols which catch me the weirdest.

Nicky knows things he isn’t saying.

[strange lance]

The way his drawing looks better than the actual design used in the show man what did they do to him 😭

He looks so stupid wheres his massive hair and why does he only have 3 fingers

[silver vine]

This is like 6 or 7 months old now

[strange lance]

So

[silver vine]

They should've improved by now

We know they are making changes

To old teasers

[strange lance]

Doesn't mean they did, and I doubt they did.

Are they

[silver vine]

Yeah

[strange lance]

What did they change

[silver vine]

Color of Theo's jail bars

[strange lance]

Dude

Theres a big difference between coloring and completely redesigning a character that needs to be reanimated in every scene

Its why the guest in that one clip still has a old design

Too much to change it

If we're lucky though later scenes will have a better thing design

[snow mauve]

i dont think they've even bother reworking some of the teasers that we've got for the past months

other than some shading and shit

[wooden whale]

the description to Reset Day says that it’s the first book in the new trilogy

the old one

[muted moon]

no it didnt

"Don't miss the thrilling new story to the hit video game Hello Neighbor"

[crude dew]

is everyone is a picasso in the AS or what

[silver vine]

no

it does not

[willow depot]

this is like one frame of animation

if I had to guess, his "hair" would probably be uh

constantly changing

like in the game

I'm sure he'll have more fingers though

he probably has the other two folded

[silent schooner]

very lore

of you

[willow depot]

MJ isn't MITH

There's little to none "proof", "Rumors go that the journalist knows the owner of the hat" is referring to the Hello Guest ending where Quenting and MITH meet, you even find a recording of it in the trunk of his car. Personally I found nothing that suggests that it was specifically MJ who made the tapes, and heck even if he did the stuff like "Oh he was taking pictures of the Guest on a high place" was completely made up just to make a connection to the hat at the top of the church

I think if they were to redesign MITH into MJ they'd like

actually make him look somewhat similar lmao, they're not even wearing the same clothes as some assume, look, if you were to black and white filter MITH his coat would be veryyy differently colored from whatever MJ is wearing

MJ isn't even a "redesign", they had plenty of time to model a more accurate model to put into the grave before whatever patch came out

In the end, isn't MJ just a journalist the missing of who was a plot device to get Quentin to fill in for him and do the whole investigating himself?

[dry patio]

That does not look like mith

[snow mauve]

It's just a lil theory!

Idk man

That sure looks like a mith to me

The clothing is VERY suspicious

Too similar..

[willow depot]

I know but it has been spreaded so much that I honestly lose track whether people talk about "MJ" as in the journalist who died or "MJ" as in the alleged identity of MITH

[willow depot]

Noottttt quite

he's not even wearing a sweater

or a turtleneck

[snow mauve]

Shhhhhh

Shushy

[willow depot]

and again look at that coloring my my

[snow mauve]

Depkis is your lore master

[willow depot]

I am my own lore master

[snow mauve]

It's a god damn newspaper..

We haven't fully seen his full color..

YET

[willow depot]

well it's doubtful whether we ever will

[snow mauve]

Imagine if it was..

[willow depot]

again I put the black and whited MITH right there

that coat is very different

it's wayy more light

[snow mauve]

I have my suspicion

Silly or not

It's just a theory

[dry patio]

Yeah

[snow mauve]

A GAME theory

[old glacier]

In alfa 2 he still was with Police so this reinforces your points

[willow depot]

thanks for watching

[willow depot]

yup

oh also on the topic of the police if MITH is just

some journalist

why his ahh was covering his face from the cops while they were passing by isn't he like

WITH them???