#lore-discussion

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ripe berry
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a troll was here

snow mauve
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Oh nice they gone

trail haven
unkempt sleet
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no not you

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there was someone else

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but they got banned, and because of that their messages got deleted

silver vine
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Hi

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Anyone tell me hello lore

unkempt sleet
drifting pilot
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idk i just know that "the thing" look like these dolls

ripe berry
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dolls

snow mauve
snow mauve
ripe berry
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wait how many of them are there

snow mauve
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I just see it that way

unkempt sleet
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When they were first shown in a teaser image, i thought it was Ted making a fake Nicky because of that teaser of him holding Nicky in the shadows (i thought he was holding the doll)

peak pasture
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im back

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for more tomfoolery

strange lance
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Theres a lot of random dolls in this series I don't think it really means much

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Like theres that big human doll under that bed in ep1 and it never went anywhere

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Its all just random

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But if it is meant to be "anyone" its probably Nicky since it has the same face design as his mask thingy

muted moon
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hnvrs aaron and guest dolls are called voodoo dolls in the files

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AS has already reused some parts of old lore and reworked them into new lore

wicked heath
muted moon
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what?

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it doesnt even look similar

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its not meant to be a reference to it

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no they didnt

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its not a reference

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its a voodoo doll

muted moon
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but it even LOOKS like one

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different universes

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different timelines

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hn2 and AS are their own universe

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everything else (including the books) is another universe

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new lore - hn2, AS
old lore - all other games, and books

alphas, prototypes, betas, and demos are NOT canon to ANYTHING

strange lance
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Them being voodoo dolls is really interesting. Voodoo dolls specifically are meant for personal needs, which does align with The Guest's motives in hnvr. One thing to note is that once the doll is in ones hands that person has complete control over the doll and the one it connects to. In this case that means The Guest is controlling Aaron and Aaron controld The Guest, which doesn't really make sense since Aaron is doing all of this on his own willingly

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Well its not like it matters Aaron dies anyway and the dolls are never seen again

muted moon
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i prefer it as aaron is able to body swap using the voodoo dolls

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makes more sense

strange lance
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I really think them being called voodoo means nothing and SW just thought it sounded cool or "fit" because they're nothing like voodoo dolls

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They don't even have the pins in them which is like the defining feature of voodoo dolls

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The dolls can only work once pins are put in

muted moon
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arent the pins used to afflict pain or something

strange lance
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Yes, and also to attach things like hair and names to make it more like the person the doll is connected to

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But the hnvr ones are just normal dolls

snow mauve
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Mouse falsed

strange lance
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Erm what

snow mauve
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You read that right

strange lance
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Hnvr's ending "Endless Darkness" material:

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Yeah Aaron dies in GuestWorld lol

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Alone with the guest

snow mauve
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Wonder how Aaron is gonna die in AS

strange lance
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The endless darkness:

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What is that even supposed to be it looks like splattered blood

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What white and black

muted moon
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yeah these things are DEFINITELY voodoo dolls

strange lance
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Turns out the "endless darkness" material is a stock texture SW grabbed 😔

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Its supposed to be a "grunge texture"

snow mauve
muted moon
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the portal clue is called HNCredits-Test-Layer2

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theres stuff related to the player blacking out

strange lance
muted moon
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theres stuff relating to lightning in the portal scene

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and a portal

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ofc

strange lance
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Probably the lightning from the guest world storm

muted moon
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portalradius is in portalclue

strange lance
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Yes this is 100% just an early version of the ending credits

muted moon
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more stuff in credits scene bg 1

strange lance
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They kinda kept this in game? You look through a feathery portal to your friends escaping

muted moon
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THE FEATHERS ARE A PORTAL

strange lance
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I prefer this honestly to the basic blue portal

muted moon
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the final credits materials ALL USE THE PORTAL VALUES

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THE PORTALS ARE THE FEATHER THIGNS

thin wadi
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Cool detail

strange lance
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Like this is just so cool

muted moon
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the trinity pose in both of these is almost IDENTICLE

strange lance
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Rip Nicky escaping with the squad

muted moon
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they made it so instead he escaped after

strange lance
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Still don't get how this early version doesn't have Ivan which is how it should be but the final version does

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Did they forget lol

muted moon
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the portal?

strange lance
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Very fuzzy

muted moon
strange lance
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I actually don't know if endlessdarkness even appears because its so dark I can't see anything

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But the material is white so probably not lol

muted moon
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old logo

strange lance
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It had that comicy looking pattern. Odd

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I like the colors though

muted moon
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lmao they had to optimize the landscape for the quest

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theres references to the pinboard in the files

strange lance
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The hn2 pinboard or just a normal pinboard

muted moon
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just pinboard

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you know the planning table?

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it was meant to be a pinboard

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wth is this

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all acts:
Act0
Act1
Act2
act3
DreamDoor2
DreamDoor3
DreamDoor4
DreamDoor5
InventorToAaronSwap
Nightmare
BeforeTunnels

silver vine
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What?

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Bro, he's traumatized as heck in HN1

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The whole point of the game is beating trauma

silver vine
silver vine
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It's unused

muted moon
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yes

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probably because it sounds so goofy

silver vine
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We can't count it as canon can we

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Also, just because he's screaming, doesn't mean he died

muted moon
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ok so i found something that proves he DOES die

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so for the kids dying theres a sound event right

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for aaron

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one of them is

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THE ENDING

strange lance
# silver vine How do we know Aaron dies in guest world

Hes gets dragged away in the ending where he watches his friends be happy through a portal while he sits in the void before his poster flys infront of him fading to black. Also the material used in the ending is literally called "endless darkness" he does not escape. And while he obviously doesn't die at that moment in hnvr he does die later as he never appears in the timeline after hnvr (I am talking about the original continuity not hn2 fg and AS)

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Its very in your face

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Also og hn2 was about how Aaron literally was not in RB 😭

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Hes gone!

muted moon
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he also wasnt with the neighbor in gn2

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and was missing in reset day

strange lance
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Mhm

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Man its so interesting how Ted trapped Aaron in a endless carnival with Nicky as company, and how The Guest trapped Aaron in an endless void with portals to RB to watch his friends so he wouldn't be alone. Wow they are so similar. Its almost like. they. are. the same person...

strange lance
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I don't remember seeing any in hn2 though

muted moon
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it says pipe tool

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wait i know

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its for the devs

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to make cables and stuff

strange lance
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Then why not call it cable tool...

muted moon
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its even in a folder called splinetest

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which is full of pipe models and stuff

strange lance
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Rest in peace, tennis ball...

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there is no model 😔

silver cargo
steady nest
silver vine
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Idk bruh

strange lance
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its called retcons ✨

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the way they retconned the house burning for reset day

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they just changed it from Aaron living to burn the house and distracting Ted in act 2 to him being trapped away in the nest as it better fit the narrative they wanted to tell

strange lance
steady nest
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Steel wool is now the devil

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👿

strange lance
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I never really liked Aaron buring the house down, felt out of character to me, so I think it was a good change

silver cargo
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Wild theorie, but what if Beatrix is now part of the cult?

I mean, yeah there is no evindence.

But I think you could build a good plot on that.

unkempt sleet
ripe berry
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Aaron survives HNVR Theories are dead now

ripe berry
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(at least that's how I view it)

ripe berry
unkempt sleet
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What's the SFX itself

unkempt sleet
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Does it actually play in game

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Hold on, is it the "Oh noooo" one

trail haven
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Finally another teaser!!!!!

inner lichen
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okay so, AS Lore is kinda confusing, but there's something I seriously hope happens

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The Guest is probably gonna be Franklin in the end, or something, but what if INSTEAD

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That whole incident was just orchestrated by The Guest, because Theodore didn't "deserve him"

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the subversion is that The Guest ISN'T anyone.

spark tulip
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Crowface is going to be the Guest, calling it now.

plucky fox
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but i'd like that

plucky fox
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it seems theyre going for the franklin route though

inner lichen
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which to me is

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well, cliche

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"the main villain is actually this guy's brother!"

inner lichen
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because he wouldn't be a person

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he's probably just wearing cult robes to mess with the rescue squad.

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to put the blame on an old cult that died off years ago

spark tulip
inner lichen
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(or was revived recently according to hn2 I guess-)

spark tulip
unkempt sleet
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Yea

inner lichen
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but still, I think the robes ARE a diversion of sorts

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he isn't PART of the cult,

spark tulip
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yeah, no
definitely not

inner lichen
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at least that's what I hope.

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but let's be honest, The Guest is just gonna be a regular guy who like

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is the leader or something

plucky fox
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It seems to just be that the cult worships him but he doesnt really interact with them

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if he was a leader or something then in layout v2 (maybe it will be changed but assuming layout v2 is what will happen)

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he wouldnt be like "summoned" by them with a sacrifice like quentin

inner lichen
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but yeah, that's just my personal wishlist

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subvert expectations by doing what people WOULDN'T expect out of new lore

plucky fox
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Even tho franklin is a big theory for who the guest is they NEVER put him in the polls

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it's def franklin

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"baker, principal, murtaugh" this has got to be the worst 3 options I've ever seen

unkempt sleet
# inner lichen he isn't PART of the cult,

He definitely isnt, Theodore hates the cult (thats still canon according to that one voice log in the lore box) but he still seems to be working with the Guest in AS season 1

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And the obvious LayoutV2 with Guest doing opposite of what the cult expected him to do

tribal talon
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Sometimes I wonder why people are still interested in this game

unkempt sleet
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Just because you dont find it interesting anymore doesnt mean other people finds it uninteresting too

tribal talon
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No I love it

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Like it’s one of my favorites

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I mean with the game itself being buggy as hell

muted moon
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or 1

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one of the 2

unkempt sleet
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Are you able to show those ones

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if its 3

safe charm
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Pls

muted moon
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nvm sorry i messed something up i guess

unkempt sleet
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So there isnt an another one

muted moon
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there IS

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but i was wrong about the ending audio being used for dying

unkempt sleet
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ah okay

ripe berry
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ah
makes sense

shell gull
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Also since they are trying to figure out who The Guest is it’s either a Surprise or it’s gonna be a Trick Question Sort with The Guest being no one and just an Entity.

shell gull
shell gull
plucky fox
ripe berry
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a different poll but it had the same question

snow mauve
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And their proof is.. "he's tall"

ripe berry
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bro

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not to be rude

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but Mayor and Guest have very different bodyshapes

snow mauve
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Not even questioning the mayor is fat..

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While goose is skinny asf

ripe berry
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the Guet isn't the Mayo

radiant olive
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I always wonder : "What if tinyBuild didna full Hello Guest game except by replacing it by hn2..."

radiant olive
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Like

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Hello Guest was supposed to be hn2

snow mauve
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Duh

radiant olive
# snow mauve Duh

"Hello Guest : Hello Neighbor 2 pre-alpha" that was the name on steam,

snow mauve
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Tripple duh

radiant olive
snow mauve
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DUHH

radiant olive
snow mauve
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DUHH

radiant olive
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I can explain if you want

snow mauve
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Smh

snow mauve
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You're just saying random rambles like

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HELLO

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Neighbor 2

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Hello guest pre alpha

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Like dude

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What the hell are you trynna say

radiant olive
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I wanted to explain after someone answered ;-;

snow mauve
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Then SAY it..

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Holy shit

snow mauve
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I know right..

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What is blud trynna say

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A Few minutes in and still no answer

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Oop now they texting

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And now they not

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Bingo

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The answer is..

muted moon
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are they trying to say what if tinybuild did a full hello guest game except without replacing it with hn2?

snow mauve
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😶

muted moon
snow mauve
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Man I wonder when is my full answer coming

muted moon
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wait i think i know

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what if tinybuild did the full hello guest game by replacing it with hn2

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is that it?

snow mauve
radiant olive
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It's just weird that the game change tottally in only 2 versions, we got pre alpha and when we got alpha 1. boom. it became like hello neighbor finding keys, We start at a security guard, to a journalist, the game changed too much and Hello Guest was full of secrets, especially the prototype, the alphas too, was full of secrets, and it changed a lot at the beta.

radiant olive
snow mauve
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I honestly like the new direction they're going with anyway

radiant olive
radiant olive
snow mauve
radiant olive
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And The Man in the Hat too bro he just dispear we saw him in hg he is in hn2 but lookd like he died

snow mauve
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But that got changed in hotfix 4 (his grave is now sealed)

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So maybe he's still alive

radiant olive
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?

muted moon
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each hn2 build is old

prototype - released at the end of 2019/beginning of 2020, made by the start of 2019
hga1 - released mid 2020, pretty much finished (gameplay-wise) by mid-late 2019
hn2a1 - released mid 2020, already being worked on by the end of 2019 (hn2a1.5 is just an updated version, so ill count it as the same)
hn2 beta - finished by the end of 2021, released in april 2022
hn2 demo - finished by august 2022, released in september 2022
hn2 fg - finished by august 2022, released in december 2022

snow mauve
radiant olive
snow mauve
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Well he's still remain canon

snow mauve
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As far as we know

muted moon
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the eye paintings

radiant olive
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During it

muted moon
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he would appear in bushes during it

radiant olive
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It was creepy

worn ibex
radiant olive
worn ibex
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Was this ever proven though?

muted moon
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it seemed to happen in devil ninjas video

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everyone who was in the game slowly got kicked

worn ibex
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Ohhhhhhh

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True

shell gull
# ripe berry they also had Mayor in the poll

Yeah which is the most obvious Cult Member as well, if they made any of the HN2 Characters The Guest that would just make HN2 a Disaster, no matter what I still hope it’s a Twist to reveal he’s No One and just an Entity still, because having him be a Person while was an Original Idea with his Character just doesn’t fit anymore with the build up over these Years with the Character.

shell gull
radiant olive
tribal talon
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I like how 1.5 is canon for hn2

unkempt sleet
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and how do you know that

snow mauve
silver vine
sinful flint
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yeah it is

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its quentins evil dream that he ahd while on gerda's crazy new pastries

silver cargo
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Evil dream.

cursive arrow
rain sluice
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Hello there, please write in English only trough the server cuz it's the main language, but we have #russian-chat here Imbirheart

snow mauve
shell gull
outer meadow
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hi

silver vine
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Hi

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Welcome to hello lore

drifting pilot
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Bad ending:

silver vine
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Why would there not be lore

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Well, when was the last time you checked

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Cuz now everything is good

pliant estuary
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so is AS the main cannon?

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whats the deal

silver vine
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Yeah

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Idk

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What about it?

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We don't really know yet

safe charm
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Because hnvr exists still

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And is meant to Tie into hn2

unkempt sleet
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Yea dont get your lore knowledge from Guestyyy

safe charm
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If you put AS and games into

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One timeline

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So am i

unkempt sleet
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if you heard that, that was probably me

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and i still stand by it

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Continuity wise if you make AS, Games and Books different continuities everything makes more sense

pliant estuary
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it would get very messy very fast

silver vine
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It's been long confirmed by Alex that AS is the main canon, there's nothing really confusing there

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He said it in devgamm

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Like, a year and a half ago

safe charm
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Tbh

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It makes it less confusing

silver vine
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Quentin being in SN is due to AS

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I personally asked Ozvard(lead dev of SN) on this matter

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It's literally in this server.......

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Bruh........

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Why should I lie bruh.........

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In 2021 devgamm, he said that they won't be adding any new kid classes cuz it would mess with the lore

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When Ozvard just revealed to us in chat that there's gonna be a new kid class, I questioned him on his previous statement

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Yeah, he told the lore has changed(AS) and that allows them to add a new kid class

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If you don't believe me, you can just check chat history

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Anyway, back to the point

pliant estuary
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how bizarre

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how very very bizarre

muted moon
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thats not right

agile sable
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HN2 comes after SN bro

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Yuh

muted moon
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yes

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if its not a lie it makes about as much sense as a everything is canon timeline

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for me deluxe is 80, and standard is about 60

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and the fg has less replayibility than any of its alphas, and betas

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every single transition in hn2 besides day to night is being knocked out

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steel wool are good at vr

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but bad at non vr

pliant estuary
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HN is so cooked

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its being fried in oil

muted moon
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rbo is looking good rn

pliant estuary
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I had to get that out

agile sable
silver vine
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And then the coffee time jump happens

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Maybe several days or weeks pass during that time

unkempt sleet
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HN Lore is so cool

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i love The Guest, Forest Protectors. Theodore's Story, Raven Brooks overall. And Characters are so peak

trail haven
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The alphas might be cannon

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Of the 2nd game, not sure about the first

unkempt sleet
trail haven
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If you go near the entry of the banner there is a missing poster of the kids

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The alpha 1.5 kids

wooden hollow
unkempt sleet
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Yea

trail haven
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Also in Quentin's investing room

unkempt sleet
unkempt sleet
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Here this is about halloween kids

trail haven
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The only boy the be rescued is the crow, not the girl

unkempt sleet
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The Alpha's are not canon

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The halloween kids are canon but their story is different than what happened in Alpha 1.5

hasty forge
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bro got blind

ripe berry
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it allows for HN2 to be "directly after episode 6" while still having most of HN2 occur at a later date

strange lance
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This still doesn't work because we literally have a teaser where Quentin is parked infront of Teds already police raided house in a non crashed a van during the day which can't happen at any point in hn2 because they raid Teds house after he crashes

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Unless you wanna say, they raided his house during the timeskip, took everything out and left for the rest of the hn2 intro, and then came back the next morning

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Which is contrived and dumb for no reason other than for the sake of a connection

ripe berry
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"took everything out"
the Police Marker in the Basement:

ripe berry
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plus
something tells me it ain't normal to leave the Police Tape after the investigation is already concluded

ripe berry
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plus we now have explicit evidence of Ted escaping Jail in the AS

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since Ted escaped they went back to the house to find evidence for where he might've gone

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only to find the Basement Door locked up yet again
then Quentin wakes up

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it took a good few hours for them to get to Ted's House because no matter what I think we can agree at least part of the HN2 Intro occurs after Act 2 (or the equivalent in the AS timeline)

solid dew
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even if that is correct can we all agree it's hilariously ridiculous

safe charm
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Yep

strange lance
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the cops leaving an active crime scene is stupid

ripe berry
safe charm
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The lore just feels pieced together so badly

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atm

ripe berry
safe charm
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Like pls make up your minds😭

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On your story

ripe berry
strange lance
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I think saying that Quentins episode(s) take place after that coffee sip is so stupid because that is obviously not what they were going for. Oh yeah guys theres a entire cartoon episode that happens after that coffee sip and then it just cuts back to the game ok

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like no

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that makes no sense

safe charm
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This implied its directly

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After act 2

strange lance
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because it is

safe charm
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This was written by Alex btw

ripe berry
solid dew
ripe berry
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BTS ends at 4 AM

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HN2 Intro (post timeskip) is at 8 PM

solid dew
safe charm
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Couldnt they just draw inspiration from AS if they wanted AS lore in hn2 they didnt need to try to make them one universe and continuity

solid dew
ripe berry
ripe berry
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DLCs occur in Raven Brooks with Quentin investigating the missing cases

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he still has his van so it's during the Intro Timeskip

safe charm
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And hnvr cant work anymore….. my favorite hello game

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Isnt Canon anymore

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😢

ripe berry
strange lance
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so you're telling me in that one coffee skip he does the 2 dlcs and the AS happens which no person would figure out on their own and is not communicated in any way

solid dew
ripe berry
ripe berry
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and the School is in Raven Brooks because it says Raven Brooks in the name

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so the DLCs would occur between the scenes we see in the intro

solid dew
strange lance
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why would he halt his main investigation in the town to go to a school and a library

ripe berry
strange lance
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missing kids? nah I gotta get a BOOK

ripe berry
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the new intros

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he's after the Book to research into potential suspects

safe charm
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How are they gonna fix hn2 story lol

ripe berry
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he's going to the School to learn more on the Missing Kids

safe charm
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Something feels really broken continuity wise

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If its in the AS universe

solid dew
ripe berry
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"Raven Brooks Middle School Case. Why is Closed?" "Missing. To-do List: Check what happened. Search for info. Find Students Dossiers."

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(Dossiers are files on a particular person in this case)

strange lance
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all this tells me is he went here before hn2 to get info on the citizens before just rushing into town cluelessly looking for random people

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because that actually makes sense

ripe berry
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and yet they're clearly located inside Raven Brooks

strange lance
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you do know that theres another road outside the entrance that goes to another part of town right

safe charm
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At this point im conviced they just Said screw it we have a year left so they made up a story quickly with AS lore elements in it

spark tulip
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bro, it shouldn't be this hard to figure out that the DLCs take place before the main game

solid dew
glacial raft
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Do y'all think Nicky still has contact with Trinity and the others during act 3s time period

safe charm
strange lance
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no

solid dew
strange lance
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he investigated bg houses in the intro lol

ripe berry
strange lance
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thats what he marked on his map

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bg houses

ripe berry
spark tulip
solid dew
glacial raft
solid dew
glacial raft
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And why is the giant fence missing in welcome to raven brooks when Nicky's being freed

strange lance
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no not bg houses hes marked down teds house the museum and ottos house, by now he already knows where these people live and who they are which is what we see him doing in late fees

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library at least is before hn2

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that much is obvious

ripe berry
# strange lance bg houses

and what says in AS Episode 9 or whenever he appears Quentin's just investigating the other houses
(also sorry if I'm coming off as rude here)

solid dew
spark tulip
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also, if Back to School took place during the time skip, it would mean that Quentin crossed off Nicky being missing, brought him back in, and crossed him off again

ripe berry
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wha

strange lance
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oh no wait he did check out bg houses, why would you investigate random people weirdo

ripe berry
strange lance
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oh yeah this is the old map, back when the bakery was a bg house

solid dew
ripe berry
solid dew
safe charm
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I feel like hn2 intro was clearly meant to be after

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Act 2 originally

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At least

strange lance
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it still is

safe charm
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Yeah

strange lance
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hn2 is still after act 2 all the kids have escaped already

tribal talon
glacial raft
solid dew
strange lance
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yeah

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hes just in the house

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and we climb on it

solid dew
strange lance
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go in his treehouse

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cause thats normal

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they should arrest Quentin hes just climbing all over town

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literally

ripe berry
solid dew
ripe berry
solid dew
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he crosses them off once he has talked to the owners

shut hill
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Yay lore discussion

strange lance
#

Anyway I see it as this:

Quentin is given the RB case and its locations, he goes to the library first to learn more about the town and citizens before doing anything heinous but of course causes the ink flood by accident, he goes to the school first as he thinks maybe these 3 missing kids might be there, of course they are not and he discovers the truth about the students who went missing instead. Finished with his side investigations he goes to the main town where he's already marked down 3 of the main buildings hes going to investigate since those 3 people have the most bad stuff or whatever. He investigates the town all day and night before he witnesses Aaron being taken away, he crashes his van, wakes up the next morning to the cops having raided teds house and hn2 begins

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to me this makes the most sense and isn't complicated in any way

ripe berry
safe charm
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Me when wcr old art van

strange lance
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that first image is not teds hosue?

solid dew
safe charm
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Like how do they Think it all make sense

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It doesnt

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Theres no logic

strange lance
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If you can't even trust them to get Quentins van right how do you expect them to get anything else right

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it'd be funny if its the mirror in the AS

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like the news station

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no more banner

shut hill
ripe berry
# strange lance that first image is not teds hosue?

I attached image #1 first because I accidentially copy-pasted them in the wrong order
but notably we have no proof Quentin actually parks infrotn of Ted's house specifically because in the background of Image 1 it's not Ted's House

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or Nicky's

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or Trinity's

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but instead some random background house

safe charm
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AS litteraly has done the oppositie of what its supposed to have done

ripe berry
safe charm
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Tie everything together

strange lance
#

you know what those AS teasers tell me? That is the AS's versions of hn2's intro and thats it. In this version Quentin arrives and the cops have already raided the house (just like og hn2 actually how cool)

ripe berry
#

and in the background of this again NOT TRINITY'S HOUSE

shut hill
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Or it’s just a frame of the car passing by..

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Yeah he doesn’t go to teds house

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No way

strange lance
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If we see AS quentin take a photo of imbir running out a bush by nickys house then we'll have our answer

ripe berry
ripe berry
strange lance
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where is his bandaid this show sucks

ripe berry
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because again backgrounds show the wrong houses if it is meant to be him actually Ted's House

solid dew
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could just be a neighboring house

strange lance
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I never noticed him waving to trinity

shut hill
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He’s prolly just visiting some random house

solid dew
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i think there's a green house to the left of the neighbor's house

solid dew
ripe berry
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not a background house that doesn't align with the AS depiction of Nicky's House

strange lance
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I think this is just him driving through town its not related to teds house

shut hill
#

Same

pliant estuary
shut hill
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They can’t mess hn2 up that bad

pliant estuary
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something ive notice mostly with AS is that if theres something that feels like a small time jump, it could be huge

ripe berry
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I don't see any scene where Quentin explictly is shown AT Ted's House that can't be explained away

strange lance
#

there is indeed a green house by teds

ripe berry
pliant estuary
solid dew
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but the other one could easily be him talking to the police

strange lance
#

man season 1 was rough

safe charm
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This debunks he just meant

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The first part theory

strange lance
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ok the entire house just deicded to change in the same episode

ripe berry
solid dew
strange lance
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it actually turns into another house in the next few frames

ripe berry
strange lance
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I can't get how anyone can look at this and think its disturbing

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her blood literally slides down like slime

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also is it just mandotory for nickys house to be super skinny now

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its like that in hnvr too

versed yacht
strange lance
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I guess, i think they could've made it a bit "creepier" though, its just a bit goofy looking for me

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idk make her skin be dirty why is she so clean she got run over

solid dew
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it always just looked like her torso was standing upright and poking through the bottom of the inside of the truck

strange lance
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how did she even get stuck up there

versed yacht
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i love the bit where they lined it up with the guy on the truck

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thats funny

solid dew
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they could have easily contorted her more by ditching the rig because it doesn't move

safe charm
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I Genuinely Do Think at the end of AS time Will reset

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And thats how the inconsistencies

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Are explained between the games and the show

shut hill
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And then Trinity wakes up from a coma..

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Heh

solid dew
#

time resets and franklin is like w.d gaster so he doesn't reappear in the new timeline

safe charm
#

What did even nikita mean by everything is canon because of mayak

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Like whaaat

ripe berry
#

no wae
undertale reference

solid dew
ripe berry
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but I hate it because it meant the Neighbor's Notebook was canon

safe charm
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I wonder if there was ever a point reset day was meant to be before hn2 because originally it was just you and the guest

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In a abandoned raven Brooks

silver vine
# strange lance Unless you wanna say, they raided his house during the timeskip, took everything...

Please, see, this is what I think happened.
Ep6 - cops show up and put up crime scene tapes - they don't remove the crime scene stuff and it's just there - Quentin arrives - investigates- school and library- some days pass- Theo escapes- goes back to the house- removes the crime scene tapes on his porch so that he can drag his son back in - HN2 intro - Theo escapes- cops show up- put crime scene tapes on the street- HN2 day 1

silver vine
strange lance
#

see now unlike it being at that coffee timeskip that actually makes more sense and can work

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doesn't make it any less stupid though

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and I don't think thats what happens anyway

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but its possible

silver vine
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Hmmm

strange lance
#

well we won't know for sure till its out

solid dew
#

the idea of ted going back to his house after being arrested is really funny to me

silver vine
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Maybe he goes back since Aaron is there?

strange lance
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and Aaron just didn't attempt to escape while his dad was in jail even though he really really wants to in the intro!

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let me guess the guest is possessing aaron and its all part of the plan

solid dew
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just sitting in the yard chilling for more than a week

silver vine
#

Well, where would be go after he escapes

strange lance
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the police...?

silver vine
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The cult would find him and kill him

strange lance
#

a neighbor?

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his friends?

silver vine
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Police is corrupt

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He has no friends

solid dew
#

he would reasonably try to go to his friends if he wanted to escape

strange lance
#

you guys went on about how aaron could still be friends with nicky in the AS and now you say no?

solid dew
strange lance
#

Aaron staying at the house is something the original aaron would do

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but this new aaron is a baby that wants to escape so badly

solid dew
ripe berry
solid dew
strange lance
#

I like how the rescue squad completely forgot about Aaron when saving nicky hes so irrelevant

versed yacht
solid dew
ripe berry
strange lance
#

ok so Aaron decided to stay in his house up until his dad came home which is when he tried to leave. Thats just being stupid

safe charm
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I mean

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He’s a child

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Brotha

solid dew
strange lance
#

Aaron also broke the window to distract ted he's not just a child, he knows what he is doing

safe charm
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I would desperately try to escape too

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If I were him

solid dew
solid dew
strange lance
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I don't think thats really Aaron anyway its all just a disguise for the guest which is why hes so out of character

versed yacht
strange lance
#

and why would he go back home

solid dew
amber isle
strange lance
#

yeah Aarons giant head in the AS

versed yacht
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because it's his home, and he has literally nowhere else to go

we have no idea if he wants to escape pre ep6

snow mauve
safe charm
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Anyways I’m excited for season 2 flashbacks

snow mauve
#

Lucy yeets is gonna yeet out

glad hornet
#

Guys nothing in HN is canon

snow mauve
amber isle
#

Maybe

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Idk

snow mauve
#

Yeah more likely

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He thought he could do whatever he wants now but was like screw it I'm going home just to be safe

strange lance
#

He legit lives across from the kids who tried to save him he saw them through the window and distracted ted for them, so he obviously could've gone to them

snow mauve
#

And then uh ohhhhhh

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Dad is here!!!

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Crap!

solid dew
strange lance
#

this just sounds like again the writing being stupid and inconsistent and not planned out

silver vine
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I'm back

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What were we talking

snow mauve
#

Lore and mouseflash

solid dew
strange lance
#

true

versed yacht
#

aaron is locked in the basement seemingly with the guest, left alone down there, and when he's freed he runs off, but returns. He's then taken away by his dad, who's completely lost it by then, and is taken to the museum

he's a child who's been abused and manipulated, he's not going to be thinking clearly all the time, especially when he still loves his family, especially his dad, even when he's being mistreated, that's why he goes back in the hn2 ending, could be why he comes back in the AS

amber isle
snow mauve
amber isle
snow mauve
maiden isle
snow mauve
#

Sigh indeed

strange lance
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He did that because his dad made him believe everything was his fault because Ted couldn't believe he made mistakes. Hn2/AS ted just seems to be a manipulator for the sake of it? We don't know much yet I assume they'll expand on it in those flashbacks

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I'd hope so

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or they could just say ted is naturally evil or something

amber isle
safe charm
amber isle
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I mean like anyone would

silver vine
snow mauve
ripe berry
#

Theodore Peterson in the AS is literally the kind of guy to use Napalm for the funnies

versed yacht
#

ted seems to be a mix of both naturally evil and broken in the AS

strange lance
ripe berry
safe charm
snow mauve
#

Crowfacyyy..

versed yacht
#

yeah pretty much

snow mauve
#

What the hell

maiden isle
safe charm
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So there’s barely

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Much of a difference technically

versed yacht
#

AS ted is just more unhinged

strange lance
#

Also did the cops just not find Aaron in the house I just thought of that, unless he was in the basement he had to have run off, just to come back home when no one was there, and then he gets caught and tries leaving again

snow mauve
#

🤓

ripe berry
#

and even then
Basement ain't safe because of the stupi

snow mauve
#

Toy bonnie

strange lance
#

I still think thats not Aaron it all seems too calculated

silver vine
snow mauve
silver vine
safe charm
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Ted isn’t a good father

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Tbf

strange lance
#

because he IS the guest...

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I'm telling you

silver vine
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Mhmmm

strange lance
#

they are gonna made aaron guest real

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mark my words...

versed yacht
silver vine
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Unless Aaron guest can teleport

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Ofc

versed yacht
#

honestly i wont even mind aaron guest if they do it right

it makes sense with how connected they are

strange lance
#

aarons theme is literally part of one of the new guest chases isn't it lol

versed yacht
#

yeah

safe charm
#

I always saw hnvr as kinda implying Aaron guest through possession but i guess not

safe charm
#

He makes a deal and Aaron gets basically sucked into a dark

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Void

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Unless that’s just

silver vine
safe charm
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The end transition

spark tulip
versed yacht
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i still have my mega theory on aaron guest i'm working on but you guys will have to wait for my peak theory video to drop...

wooden hollow
strange lance
strange lance
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I mean its still Teds fault for not putting safety on the coaster

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or any of his rides

strange lance
#

you can't blame aaron for that

versed yacht
silver vine
strange lance
#

true living there would be cool, but he should've used that massive head of his

silver vine
safe charm
#

Not sure what

spark tulip
#

announcements ping jumpscare

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new images, too

strange lance
#

I wanna say other so bad but I think its kinda obvious

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Ivan is just too suspicious

silver vine
#

What's OCD

spark tulip
amber isle
silver vine
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Guys

spark tulip
#

right, compulsive

silver vine
#

Is Theo an abusive father?

spark tulip
#

naaahhh...

strange lance
#

really though why so big

silver vine
spark tulip
silver vine
snow mauve
strange lance
snow mauve
#

I mean I can kinda see it

silver vine
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I think I see his ear tho

spark tulip
amber isle
snow mauve
#

Idk

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I believe he just wears a bag on his head like Nicky

worn ibex
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Maybe it's just not on his head properly

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Hence revealing the ear slightly

snow mauve
worn ibex
#

One min

silver vine
#

Shit guys

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Porkchops is in chat

strange lance
#

I don't see anyone mention how he ran back to Aaron and then kinda just left him there, then proceeded to ask "where is he?" as if he didn't just see him inside the house

strange lance
#

erm thats not confirmed and just a theory 🤓

worn ibex
spark tulip
silver vine
#

Guys

worn ibex
silver vine
#

I have this one question

worn ibex
#

Ok

snow mauve
silver vine
#

Theos house has like 7 floors, yet he decided to keep the basement door key in the first floor

spark tulip
snow mauve
snow mauve
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Yes

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Yes

amber isle
spark tulip
#

really?

snow mauve
#

200%

snow mauve
#

I'm kidding

spark tulip
#

i have the perfect track for this

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i don't, actually

maiden isle
silver vine
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So that rats won't steal it

snow mauve
#

Rat!

strange lance
#

literally just melt the key and have a secret entrance for yourself

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no one can open the basement door and no one will find your secret entrance either

silver vine
#

Cellar door.....

maiden isle
spark tulip
strange lance
#

speaking of the cellar door its chained and boarded up in hnvr but nicky still somehow breaks through it in the ending, bros strong

silver vine
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Or maybe guest breaks it

lean gyro
#

Does anyone know what happens after hello neighbor 1?

snow mauve
#

Nicky lives a happy life

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The end

lean gyro
#

all new games are already before hn1

snow mauve
#

well HN2 takes place after HN1 act 2

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Before Nicky grew up

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HNVR takes place between Act 1 and Act 2

lean gyro
#

Neighbor now is missing?

snow mauve
#

No

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He's just in prison

lean gyro
#

simming*

snow mauve
#

But he'll escape anyway

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And get his son

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And boom hello neighbor 2 plot

unkempt sleet
#

We dont know what happens to Theodore in HN1 Act 3 times

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We only know Nicky's story in that part of the timeline

ripe berry
unkempt sleet
#

Erm, thats a noncanon easter egg like Mith in the grave in HN2

green sparrow
#

hey i got a question when you pass the HN 2 they let you be free and investigate the map but in the last act you need to save the kid so what happend to the kid bc if you go back it wont be there

ripe berry
#

we'll find out in the content expansion update

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HN2 Patch 10

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Free Roam is not a canon part of the story of HN2

shell gull
#

Huh the Two Siblings aren’t in here

shut hill
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maybe we get a part 2..

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with the rest

copper needle
#

Bro on the who is the guest post someone commented

trail haven
#

Or maybe the guest transformed into Aaron, they saw him running to the amusement park, and they went there, and then they saw the guest

pale urchin
#

I remember he had 1k something subscribers a year ago

viscid drum
#

How can I know what happens in the books without reading them, or can I find reviews

viscid drum
# shell gull Just gotta read them

I got no money and not being english/american I dont know if I am able to stay focus on a full book in a language that isnt my main language

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so im just searching for alternatives..

runic olive
maiden isle
# lean gyro

IM DA BIGGEST BIRD 🐦 🐦 🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️

ripe carbon
maiden isle
#

HAAHA

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Not my nitro expiring tmr bro 😭

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ok but

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why is the neighbor dressed up as a bird?

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Is my question

ripe carbon
#

i haven't talked here in weeks

maiden isle
#

real

#

OMG UR NEURODIVERGENT TOO?

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Oop

#

LOL

ripe carbon
#

YESS

maiden isle
#

OMLLL

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SAMEMEME

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wait let’s talk in DMs cuz then peeps gonna, “naur ur not suppaursed to chat heearrr!!!”

pale urchin
maiden isle
#

as I was saying…. I’m talking in DMs ✨

pale urchin
#

Ik, go ahead

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Anyways

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What's popping you guys! Today we're gonna be discussing the LORE OF HN!

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So let's get in right to it!

maiden isle
#

LOL

snow mauve
#

WRONG

#

There's more..

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Than just that..

shell gull
viscid drum
trail haven
#

Anyone in official game theorists?

snow mauve
ripe berry
#

but hey

#

that's just a theory

#

A GAM-

unkempt sleet
#

A Gamma theory

#

So true

agile sable
lean gyro
#

That's just a game,a theory game

cold gull
#

But, i don't think i've find them online

peak pasture
#

idk if this is lore important

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but

pale urchin
maiden isle
shell gull
unkempt sleet
#

Hello Engineer

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i need to hear the HE storyline

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No joke, From start to finish

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preferably from Micheal lore because he's awesome and more knowledgable about HN lore 🌞

strange lance
#

Hey

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I like know HE better than most people... Mya

#

I am the HE lord

worn ibex
#

Hmm!

strange lance
#

Took this just from my hn timeline doc since its everything from the game

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Also the island cause why not it was HE originally anyway. I just like the island a lot :)

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Its also really important cause like, this time loop stuff existed way before the park did

snow mauve
strange lance
#

True

snow mauve
#

You're foresakennn

ripe berry
#

he also included Island plot which I'm kinda...
on and off about the canonicity of

ripe berry
strange lance
#

this is true, ask me any HE question and I'm sure I will have an answer...

ripe berry
snow mauve
strange lance
snow mauve
#

because

#

Decoration!

peak pasture
strange lance
#

I said HE 😡

#

Banished

snow mauve
#

Hahhh

#

Answer it now mouseflash

snow mauve
#

I'm waiting!!!

strange lance
#

Why the rescue squad?

#

Why not the rescue squad

#

I hope you're satisfied

snow mauve
#

Noted.

hollow remnant
#

how was the neighbor able to build this massive extension in only a few weeks

snow mauve
#

So he is truly a pro

#

And also cuz AS logic

strange lance
#

He built an underground amusement park too

#

He totally has the ability to make act 3 an actual building

snow mauve
#

I hate you..

shell gull
muted moon
shell gull
#

Might’ve been.

#

But Ted was just the Lead Engineer

#

Iirc.

strange lance
#

Well the park had construction works. Ted built act 3 and the underground park on his own

#

When did he even start building the underground park

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Its just there

muted moon
shell gull
strange lance
#

So did every other citizen

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Mega geniuses in this town and they all decide to be evil instead

muted moon
shell gull