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Oh nice they gone
Me?
no not you
there was someone else
but they got banned, and because of that their messages got deleted
So like, I wonder what's the deal with these dolls in the basement
idk i just know that "the thing" look like these dolls
dolls
No, why would I want you gone?
first thing that came in my mind was the broken legs dude from ep3
wait how many of them are there
Idk why
I just see it that way
When they were first shown in a teaser image, i thought it was Ted making a fake Nicky because of that teaser of him holding Nicky in the shadows (i thought he was holding the doll)
Theres a lot of random dolls in this series I don't think it really means much
Like theres that big human doll under that bed in ep1 and it never went anywhere
Its all just random
But if it is meant to be "anyone" its probably Nicky since it has the same face design as his mask thingy
voodoo doll
hnvrs aaron and guest dolls are called voodoo dolls in the files
AS has already reused some parts of old lore and reworked them into new lore
Aaron just really liked LBP
what?
it doesnt even look similar
its not meant to be a reference to it
no they didnt
its not a reference
its a voodoo doll
when i said this i was more thinkign about hnvr
but it even LOOKS like one
different universes
different timelines
hn2 and AS are their own universe
everything else (including the books) is another universe
new lore - hn2, AS
old lore - all other games, and books
alphas, prototypes, betas, and demos are NOT canon to ANYTHING
Them being voodoo dolls is really interesting. Voodoo dolls specifically are meant for personal needs, which does align with The Guest's motives in hnvr. One thing to note is that once the doll is in ones hands that person has complete control over the doll and the one it connects to. In this case that means The Guest is controlling Aaron and Aaron controld The Guest, which doesn't really make sense since Aaron is doing all of this on his own willingly
Well its not like it matters Aaron dies anyway and the dolls are never seen again
I really think them being called voodoo means nothing and SW just thought it sounded cool or "fit" because they're nothing like voodoo dolls
They don't even have the pins in them which is like the defining feature of voodoo dolls
The dolls can only work once pins are put in
arent the pins used to afflict pain or something
Yes, and also to attach things like hair and names to make it more like the person the doll is connected to
But the hnvr ones are just normal dolls
Mouse falsed
Erm what
You read that right
Hnvr's ending "Endless Darkness" material:
Yeah Aaron dies in GuestWorld lol
Alone with the guest
Wonder how Aaron is gonna die in AS
The endless darkness:
What is that even supposed to be it looks like splattered blood
What white and black
Turns out the "endless darkness" material is a stock texture SW grabbed 😔
Its supposed to be a "grunge texture"
Classic steel shit studios..
the portal clue is called HNCredits-Test-Layer2
theres stuff related to the player blacking out
So many discord mobile updates and yet we still can't play audio straight from the channels
Probably the lightning from the guest world storm
Yes this is 100% just an early version of the ending credits
more stuff in credits scene bg 1
They kinda kept this in game? You look through a feathery portal to your friends escaping
THE FEATHERS ARE A PORTAL
I prefer this honestly to the basic blue portal
the final credits materials ALL USE THE PORTAL VALUES
THE PORTALS ARE THE FEATHER THIGNS
Didn't think of the ending credit images as actually being from Aaron's POV
Cool detail
Like this is just so cool
the trinity pose in both of these is almost IDENTICLE
Rip Nicky escaping with the squad
they made it so instead he escaped after
Still don't get how this early version doesn't have Ivan which is how it should be but the final version does
Did they forget lol
the portal?
Very fuzzy
I actually don't know if endlessdarkness even appears because its so dark I can't see anything
But the material is white so probably not lol
old logo
lmao they had to optimize the landscape for the quest
theres references to the pinboard in the files
The hn2 pinboard or just a normal pinboard
just pinboard
you know the planning table?
it was meant to be a pinboard
wth is this
all acts:
Act0
Act1
Act2
act3
DreamDoor2
DreamDoor3
DreamDoor4
DreamDoor5
InventorToAaronSwap
Nightmare
BeforeTunnels
What?
Bro, he's traumatized as heck in HN1
The whole point of the game is beating trauma
How do we know Aaron dies in guest world
It's unused
We can't count it as canon can we
Also, just because he's screaming, doesn't mean he died
ok so i found something that proves he DOES die
so for the kids dying theres a sound event right
for aaron
one of them is
THE ENDING
Hes gets dragged away in the ending where he watches his friends be happy through a portal while he sits in the void before his poster flys infront of him fading to black. Also the material used in the ending is literally called "endless darkness" he does not escape. And while he obviously doesn't die at that moment in hnvr he does die later as he never appears in the timeline after hnvr (I am talking about the original continuity not hn2 fg and AS)
Its very in your face
Also og hn2 was about how Aaron literally was not in RB 😭
Hes gone!
Mhm
Man its so interesting how Ted trapped Aaron in a endless carnival with Nicky as company, and how The Guest trapped Aaron in an endless void with portals to RB to watch his friends so he wouldn't be alone. Wow they are so similar. Its almost like. they. are. the same person...
considering it says rollable maybe thats just a rolling pin?
I don't remember seeing any in hn2 though
Then why not call it cable tool...

If aaron dies, how is he still alive at the end of act 2 where he breaks something to distract the neighbor
Idk bruh
its called retcons ✨
the way they retconned the house burning for reset day
they just changed it from Aaron living to burn the house and distracting Ted in act 2 to him being trapped away in the nest as it better fit the narrative they wanted to tell
the "blackout cone" in question...
They scrapped nikitas original vision and idea
Steel wool is now the devil
👿
I never really liked Aaron buring the house down, felt out of character to me, so I think it was a good change
Wild theorie, but what if Beatrix is now part of the cult?
I mean, yeah there is no evindence.
But I think you could build a good plot on that.
It depends on the circumstances, When i imagine the house burning down because of him, i dont imagine Aaron going "Heh im gonna burn this house down", i imagine it as maybe like an accident during a fight with Ted or something like the result of some manipulation from Guest
oh shit
Aaron survives HNVR Theories are dead now
That ain't Aaron anymore, that's the Guest trying to ensure the cops get called on Ted
(at least that's how I view it)
they literally use a Aaron dying sfx for the ending
as in they're saying Aaron dies in the ending of HNVR
What's the SFX itself
whats the sound itself
Does it actually play in game
Hold on, is it the "Oh noooo" one
this?
Finally another teaser!!!!!
okay so, AS Lore is kinda confusing, but there's something I seriously hope happens
The Guest is probably gonna be Franklin in the end, or something, but what if INSTEAD
That whole incident was just orchestrated by The Guest, because Theodore didn't "deserve him"
the subversion is that The Guest ISN'T anyone.
Crowface is going to be the Guest, calling it now.
That sounds like old lore
but i'd like that
genius
it seems theyre going for the franklin route though
this would throw that out the window, and would actually make The Guest significantly scarier
because he wouldn't be a person
he's probably just wearing cult robes to mess with the rescue squad.
to put the blame on an old cult that died off years ago
even though the Guest is significantly more connected to Aaron...
(or was revived recently according to hn2 I guess-)
even HN2 tells us this
The cult is still around though
Yea
yeah, no
definitely not
at least that's what I hope.
but let's be honest, The Guest is just gonna be a regular guy who like
is the leader or something
It seems to just be that the cult worships him but he doesnt really interact with them
if he was a leader or something then in layout v2 (maybe it will be changed but assuming layout v2 is what will happen)
he wouldnt be like "summoned" by them with a sacrifice like quentin
but yeah, that's just my personal wishlist
subvert expectations by doing what people WOULDN'T expect out of new lore
Even tho franklin is a big theory for who the guest is they NEVER put him in the polls
it's def franklin
"baker, principal, murtaugh" this has got to be the worst 3 options I've ever seen
He definitely isnt, Theodore hates the cult (thats still canon according to that one voice log in the lore box) but he still seems to be working with the Guest in AS season 1
And the obvious LayoutV2 with Guest doing opposite of what the cult expected him to do
Sometimes I wonder why people are still interested in this game
Just because you dont find it interesting anymore doesnt mean other people finds it uninteresting too
No I love it
Like it’s one of my favorites
I mean with the game itself being buggy as hell
its 3 im pretty sure
or 1
one of the 2
nvm sorry i messed something up i guess
So there isnt an another one
ah okay
ah
makes sense
Based on everything he’s using The Cult, Manipulator 101.
Also since they are trying to figure out who The Guest is it’s either a Surprise or it’s gonna be a Trick Question Sort with The Guest being no one and just an Entity.
And by “Surprise” it’s gonna most likely be Franklin.
Yeah no they put the 3 Obvious Cult Members for the Poll.
Cult members... not guest
they also had Mayor in the poll
a different poll but it had the same question
I saw one comment believing the guest is the mayor 😭
And their proof is.. "he's tall"
the Guet isn't the Mayo
I always wonder : "What if tinyBuild didna full Hello Guest game except by replacing it by hn2..."
The hell is blud yapping about
idk
Like
Hello Guest was supposed to be hn2
Duh
"Hello Guest : Hello Neighbor 2 pre-alpha" that was the name on steam,
Tripple duh
?
DUHH
What don't you understand 😭
DUHH
I can explain if you want
Smh
It seems like you're not explaining at all
You're just saying random rambles like
HELLO
Neighbor 2
Hello guest pre alpha
Like dude
What the hell are you trynna say
I wanted to explain after someone answered ;-;
are you having a stroke
I know right..
What is blud trynna say
A Few minutes in and still no answer
Oop now they texting
And now they not
Bingo
The answer is..
are they trying to say what if tinybuild did a full hello guest game except without replacing it with hn2?
😶
thats the closest i can think of
Man I wonder when is my full answer coming
wait i think i know
what if tinybuild did the full hello guest game by replacing it with hn2
is that it?
No idea how to feel that
It's just weird that the game change tottally in only 2 versions, we got pre alpha and when we got alpha 1. boom. it became like hello neighbor finding keys, We start at a security guard, to a journalist, the game changed too much and Hello Guest was full of secrets, especially the prototype, the alphas too, was full of secrets, and it changed a lot at the beta.
Yes
We even got houses model in HGP
Yep lots of changes during development
I honestly like the new direction they're going with anyway
Yes HN2 is way netter than HG right now but if we could have a full HG game it would be cool too
We just need to find candies in Hn2 alpha 1.5 💀
Clearly that was just a little Halloween tradition thingy
Yes and not much changes except removing Hg references
And The Man in the Hat too bro he just dispear we saw him in hg he is in hn2 but lookd like he died
Really ? We can't see him anymore
?
each hn2 build is old
prototype - released at the end of 2019/beginning of 2020, made by the start of 2019
hga1 - released mid 2020, pretty much finished (gameplay-wise) by mid-late 2019
hn2a1 - released mid 2020, already being worked on by the end of 2019 (hn2a1.5 is just an updated version, so ill count it as the same)
hn2 beta - finished by the end of 2021, released in april 2022
hn2 demo - finished by august 2022, released in september 2022
hn2 fg - finished by august 2022, released in december 2022
I guess so yeah
We can still see him in SN I remember there was a creepy rumor abt him but it was fake lol
Well he's still remain canon
not a rumor
As far as we know
he would appear in bushes during it
Yes I know we see him there was an other thing
It was creepy
What was the other thing you could see? There wasn't anything else to see, right?
It's inly a rumor in fact when you were alone with nobody he could "catch you" and make your game crash ( or it's just thebgame who was laggy )
Was this ever proven though?
it seemed to happen in devil ninjas video
everyone who was in the game slowly got kicked
Yeah which is the most obvious Cult Member as well, if they made any of the HN2 Characters The Guest that would just make HN2 a Disaster, no matter what I still hope it’s a Twist to reveal he’s No One and just an Entity still, because having him be a Person while was an Original Idea with his Character just doesn’t fit anymore with the build up over these Years with the Character.
Sorry to break the News to you, but HN2 is technically FG HG.
Yes I sezrched they changed the name for maie it easier to find ig
I like how 1.5 is canon for hn2
and how do you know that
Erm it's not..
Erm it is
Evil dream.
cool
Hello there, please write in English only trough the server cuz it's the main language, but we have #russian-chat here 
Oh hell nah
No, 1.5 is just Symbolism hinting to the Plot of RD and what was supposed to be HN2.
hi
Bad ending:
Why would there not be lore
Well, when was the last time you checked
Cuz now everything is good
Unfortunally it still doesnt make sense
Because hnvr exists still
And is meant to Tie into hn2
Yea dont get your lore knowledge from Guestyyy
if you heard that, that was probably me
and i still stand by it
Continuity wise if you make AS, Games and Books different continuities everything makes more sense
imagine if people used house Continuity to determine if it was part of the same lore
it would get very messy very fast
It's been long confirmed by Alex that AS is the main canon, there's nothing really confusing there
He said it in devgamm
Like, a year and a half ago
I would prefer games being their own timeline
Tbh
It makes it less confusing
Quentin being in SN is due to AS
I personally asked Ozvard(lead dev of SN) on this matter
It's literally in this server.......
Bruh........
Why should I lie bruh.........
In 2021 devgamm, he said that they won't be adding any new kid classes cuz it would mess with the lore
When Ozvard just revealed to us in chat that there's gonna be a new kid class, I questioned him on his previous statement
Yeah, he told the lore has changed(AS) and that allows them to add a new kid class
If you don't believe me, you can just check chat history
Anyway, back to the point
thats not right
yes
if its not a lie it makes about as much sense as a everything is canon timeline
for me deluxe is 80, and standard is about 60
and the fg has less replayibility than any of its alphas, and betas
every single transition in hn2 besides day to night is being knocked out
steel wool are good at vr
but bad at non vr
rbo is looking good rn
My assumption is that Quentin arrives to Raven Brooks right after ep6
And then the coffee time jump happens
Maybe several days or weeks pass during that time
HN Lore is so cool
i love The Guest, Forest Protectors. Theodore's Story, Raven Brooks overall. And Characters are so peak
they're probably not canon
If you go near the entry of the banner there is a missing poster of the kids
The alpha 1.5 kids
The kids are canon, but their story is different
Yea
Also in Quentin's investing room
Green, can you send the rbbanner newspaper. I cant because mobile...
Here this is about halloween kids
The only boy the be rescued is the crow, not the girl
The Alpha's are not canon
The halloween kids are canon but their story is different than what happened in Alpha 1.5
yep
it allows for HN2 to be "directly after episode 6" while still having most of HN2 occur at a later date
This still doesn't work because we literally have a teaser where Quentin is parked infront of Teds already police raided house in a non crashed a van during the day which can't happen at any point in hn2 because they raid Teds house after he crashes
Unless you wanna say, they raided his house during the timeskip, took everything out and left for the rest of the hn2 intro, and then came back the next morning
Which is contrived and dumb for no reason other than for the sake of a connection
"took everything out"
the Police Marker in the Basement:
plus
something tells me it ain't normal to leave the Police Tape after the investigation is already concluded
a bit contrived?
yes
but possible and supported in-game due to this thing's mere existence
plus we now have explicit evidence of Ted escaping Jail in the AS
since Ted escaped they went back to the house to find evidence for where he might've gone
only to find the Basement Door locked up yet again
then Quentin wakes up
it took a good few hours for them to get to Ted's House because no matter what I think we can agree at least part of the HN2 Intro occurs after Act 2 (or the equivalent in the AS timeline)
even if that is correct can we all agree it's hilariously ridiculous
Yep
the cops leaving an active crime scene is stupid
yeah
not saying it isn't
just saying it's possible
it's not active anymore because we don't know how much time passes in the time skip
they could have all the evidence they need already and decide to no longer make the place a crime scene because logic
then Ted breaks out of jail and it becomes a active crime scene again
I think saying that Quentins episode(s) take place after that coffee sip is so stupid because that is obviously not what they were going for. Oh yeah guys theres a entire cartoon episode that happens after that coffee sip and then it just cuts back to the game ok
like no
that makes no sense
because it is
This was written by Alex btw
this is the one stupid thing
it was intended to just be later in the same exact day
if they somehow want to fit all of that in then that's funny
they already messed that up the second they made the DLCs
BTS ends at 4 AM
HN2 Intro (post timeskip) is at 8 PM
obviously quentin did a lot of investigating before the intro and also between the coffee sip
but nothing conclusive
Couldnt they just draw inspiration from AS if they wanted AS lore in hn2 they didnt need to try to make them one universe and continuity
aren't dlcs way before
and then they messed up by making Back to School occur before the end of the Intro meaning we now have proof of a gap in the HN2 timeline
um no
DLCs occur in Raven Brooks with Quentin investigating the missing cases
he still has his van so it's during the Intro Timeskip
but the times they give in the DLCs on Quentin's Watch contradict what''s said in the Barn Tutorial
which automatically means more then one day passes in that timeskip
so you're telling me in that one coffee skip he does the 2 dlcs and the AS happens which no person would figure out on their own and is not communicated in any way
yeah he's
been investigating for a while
hn2 intro isn't when he starts investigating
because we don't yet have the episodes with Quentin yet
HN2 Intro (pre-timeskip) literally shows him driving into town
and the School is in Raven Brooks because it says Raven Brooks in the name
so the DLCs would occur between the scenes we see in the intro
with a raven brooks banner van and an office of his own and after leaving some of his journalist belongings near where the beatrix paper is
i think they want to imply he goes back and forth for whatever reason which is definitely weird
why would he halt his main investigation in the town to go to a school and a library
he's not halting it
he's collecting more info
missing kids? nah I gotta get a BOOK
How are they gonna fix hn2 story lol
he's going to the School to learn more on the Missing Kids
they won't
"Raven Brooks Middle School Case. Why is Closed?" "Missing. To-do List: Check what happened. Search for info. Find Students Dossiers."
(Dossiers are files on a particular person in this case)
all this tells me is he went here before hn2 to get info on the citizens before just rushing into town cluelessly looking for random people
because that actually makes sense
and yet they're clearly located inside Raven Brooks
you do know that theres another road outside the entrance that goes to another part of town right
At this point im conviced they just Said screw it we have a year left so they made up a story quickly with AS lore elements in it
bro, it shouldn't be this hard to figure out that the DLCs take place before the main game
funny thing is that he has them all listed down as potential suspects and then doesn't actually investigate them in the intro for some reason
i think he's a little dense
Do y'all think Nicky still has contact with Trinity and the others during act 3s time period
Because of how messy and broken its continuity is
no
in fact doesn't it just show he only went to like 2-3 houses
he investigated bg houses in the intro lol
I'm not saying they don't occur before the main game
what I'm saying is they occur during the Timeskip in the Intro
aka before most of the game but not all of it
and he spent all of the time skip on investigating the houses he marked on his map
it's implied he isolated himself from everyone after escaping
so when he ended up moving away he had no contact with anyone else
I maybe thought sometime after being freed he got a bit mentally stable again
ignore hnvr's ending please i very much doubt they all had a lighthearted celebration after the fact
And why is the giant fence missing in welcome to raven brooks when Nicky's being freed
no not bg houses hes marked down teds house the museum and ottos house, by now he already knows where these people live and who they are which is what we see him doing in late fees
library at least is before hn2
that much is obvious
and what says in AS Episode 9 or whenever he appears Quentin's just investigating the other houses
(also sorry if I'm coming off as rude here)
he never really got over it until act 3
it would have been much worse in his earlier years before he had time to try and forget about it
also, if Back to School took place during the time skip, it would mean that Quentin crossed off Nicky being missing, brought him back in, and crossed him off again
wha
oh no wait he did check out bg houses, why would you investigate random people weirdo
he's not crossed off here
and although he's there to grab the folders he didn't actually grab them
oh yeah this is the old map, back when the bakery was a bg house
yeah, i know
it's possible some of the fears in hn1 could have been a result of his time after escaping the basement
fear school being him needing to hide away from everyone because they keep prying and reminding him of what happened
the principal being like that could also be interpreted as him trying to comfort nicky instead of uh obviously to no avail
also doesn't smth like this happen no matter where we place BtS?
it has to happen before because nicky escapes around the intro of hn2
it still is
or am I stupi
hn2 is still after act 2 all the kids have escaped already
i mean, it is
Well how is a part of the house Missing
they just chose a really lame and confusing way of doing it where they don't show nicky
everything in act 2 is a memory twisted by fear
in reality the house looked the same as act 1 during act 2
go in his treehouse
cause thats normal
they should arrest Quentin hes just climbing all over town
literally
Ohhhh
so lemme get this much straight
Quentin drives right by Ted's house without trying to cross it off?
quentin is crowface!
he keeps sitting in nests on peoples' houses!
because that has to happen for this map to make any sense
yes
he crosses them off once he has talked to the owners
Yay lore discussion
Anyway I see it as this:
Quentin is given the RB case and its locations, he goes to the library first to learn more about the town and citizens before doing anything heinous but of course causes the ink flood by accident, he goes to the school first as he thinks maybe these 3 missing kids might be there, of course they are not and he discovers the truth about the students who went missing instead. Finished with his side investigations he goes to the main town where he's already marked down 3 of the main buildings hes going to investigate since those 3 people have the most bad stuff or whatever. He investigates the town all day and night before he witnesses Aaron being taken away, he crashes his van, wakes up the next morning to the cops having raided teds house and hn2 begins
to me this makes the most sense and isn't complicated in any way
hm...
I wonder where before have we seen evidence of Quentin driving by Ted's House...
Me when wcr old art van
that first image is not teds hosue?
new take: animated series is absolutely not in the same continuity
Yeah it cant be
Like how do they Think it all make sense
It doesnt
Theres no logic
If you can't even trust them to get Quentins van right how do you expect them to get anything else right
it'd be funny if its the mirror in the AS
like the news station
no more banner
Wait what if he doesn’t even go to teds house and that’s just him passing by
I attached image #1 first because I accidentially copy-pasted them in the wrong order
but notably we have no proof Quentin actually parks infrotn of Ted's house specifically because in the background of Image 1 it's not Ted's House
or Nicky's
or Trinity's
but instead some random background house
AS litteraly has done the oppositie of what its supposed to have done
exactly my point
He's not even actually visiting Ted's House there
Tie everything together
you know what those AS teasers tell me? That is the AS's versions of hn2's intro and thats it. In this version Quentin arrives and the cops have already raided the house (just like og hn2 actually how cool)
that car looks parked to me
and in the background of this again NOT TRINITY'S HOUSE
Or it’s just a frame of the car passing by..
Yeah he doesn’t go to teds house
No way
If we see AS quentin take a photo of imbir running out a bush by nickys house then we'll have our answer
he's NOT specifically visiting Ted's House in any of the teasers
one Teaser could be a frame of him driving past
and the other two teasers don't align with the AS depiction of Trinity or Nicky's house and instead are random background houses
but for now they appear to be two different events
where is his bandaid this show sucks
because again backgrounds show the wrong houses if it is meant to be him actually Ted's House
could just be a neighboring house
I never noticed him waving to trinity
He’s prolly just visiting some random house
i think there's a green house to the left of the neighbor's house
nevermind it's yellow
not here it can't be
because based off where Quentin's "parked" we SHOULD see Nicky's House here
not a background house that doesn't align with the AS depiction of Nicky's House
I think this is just him driving through town its not related to teds house
Same
I think this is when he arrives
They can’t mess hn2 up that bad
something ive notice mostly with AS is that if theres something that feels like a small time jump, it could be huge
I don't see any scene where Quentin explictly is shown AT Ted's House that can't be explained away
there is indeed a green house by teds
the one that we have is easily explainable
well yeah not this one
so quentin pulling in to town and him seeing what Ted did to Aaron could be far off from each other
but the other one could easily be him talking to the police
man season 1 was rough
ok the entire house just deicded to change in the same episode
we won't know until the episode drops though
I personally see it that until we find explict proof of a contradiction (for me at least) it remains in the AS canon
yeah the bg houses aren't consistent
this house turns yellow later on
it actually turns into another house in the next few frames
(not saying it doesn't also exist in the Books canon, that one automatically contains every entry except HN2 (maybe SN?) and AS, I'm talking the AS canon)
I can't get how anyone can look at this and think its disturbing
her blood literally slides down like slime
also is it just mandotory for nickys house to be super skinny now
its like that in hnvr too
i think it's more the concept of the dead woman's corpse mangled in the trucks wheel than how it's presented
I guess, i think they could've made it a bit "creepier" though, its just a bit goofy looking for me
idk make her skin be dirty why is she so clean she got run over
it always just looked like her torso was standing upright and poking through the bottom of the inside of the truck
how did she even get stuck up there
they could have easily contorted her more by ditching the rig because it doesn't move
I Genuinely Do Think at the end of AS time Will reset
And thats how the inconsistencies
Are explained between the games and the show
time resets and franklin is like w.d gaster so he doesn't reappear in the new timeline
no wae
undertale reference
to compensate ted's parents have another child so lisa now exists
I myself am confused on what the hell that meant
but I hate it because it meant the Neighbor's Notebook was canon
I wonder if there was ever a point reset day was meant to be before hn2 because originally it was just you and the guest
In a abandoned raven Brooks
Please, see, this is what I think happened.
Ep6 - cops show up and put up crime scene tapes - they don't remove the crime scene stuff and it's just there - Quentin arrives - investigates- school and library- some days pass- Theo escapes- goes back to the house- removes the crime scene tapes on his porch so that he can drag his son back in - HN2 intro - Theo escapes- cops show up- put crime scene tapes on the street- HN2 day 1
That works
Hmmmm, ok, if library is before HN2, then, why can't Quentin driving past Ted's crime scene porch and his AS appearances be before HN2 as well?
Ooohhhhh I like that
because that would mean he went to the library, went to the main town for his AS stuff, left for some reason, and then entered it again for the intro
see now unlike it being at that coffee timeskip that actually makes more sense and can work
doesn't make it any less stupid though
and I don't think thats what happens anyway
but its possible
Hmmm
well we won't know for sure till its out
the idea of ted going back to his house after being arrested is really funny to me
Maybe he goes back since Aaron is there?
and Aaron just didn't attempt to escape while his dad was in jail even though he really really wants to in the intro!
let me guess the guest is possessing aaron and its all part of the plan
just sitting in the yard chilling for more than a week
Well, where would be go after he escapes
the police...?
The cult would find him and kill him
he would reasonably try to go to his friends if he wanted to escape
you guys went on about how aaron could still be friends with nicky in the AS and now you say no?
oh right we're animated series continuity where aaron practically did not exist
Aaron staying at the house is something the original aaron would do
but this new aaron is a baby that wants to escape so badly
nobody even knew him before he was kidnapped apparently
tinyCrow doesn't think that
I do
and ted getting arrested isn't something the original ted would do 😀
I like how the rescue squad completely forgot about Aaron when saving nicky hes so irrelevant
or he's just an emotionally manipulated and abused child which is apparently something this community cannot grasp
is that crying ?? in this basement??? who could that be???
whatever let's just ignore it and go the other way
(I'm one of the like 3 people who still argue that HND is in the AS Timeline)
ok so Aaron decided to stay in his house up until his dad came home which is when he tried to leave. Thats just being stupid
seriously it's so funny how as soon as nicky tackles trinity to not enter the door nobody has any objections despite there being someone behind there that probably needs help
Aaron also broke the window to distract ted he's not just a child, he knows what he is doing
casually starving while waiting to flex to his dad that he escaped
Why do you think that
he's (meant to be) 13
though knowing the animated series/hn2 he's like 10
I don't think thats really Aaron anyway its all just a disguise for the guest which is why hes so out of character
we have no idea where aaron is between ep6 and hn2. if you came back to your home after being alone for weeks and saw your dad who now looks even more like an absolute madman, who is actively trying to take you away, would you not be scared?
and bald
literally where else would he be between ep6 and hn2
and why would he go back home
why would he go back if he wants to escape
💀
yeah Aarons giant head in the AS
because it's his home, and he has literally nowhere else to go
we have no idea if he wants to escape pre ep6
Home is too comfortable..
Anyways I’m excited for season 2 flashbacks
Lucy yeets is gonna yeet out
Guys nothing in HN is canon
👏
He could’ve tried looking for somewhere to go or someone to help during that time, gave up, went back home not expecting Ted to be there
Maybe
Idk
Yeah more likely
He thought he could do whatever he wants now but was like screw it I'm going home just to be safe
He legit lives across from the kids who tried to save him he saw them through the window and distracted ted for them, so he obviously could've gone to them
the change of heart as soon as ted gets back home is still wild
and the fact that nobody even touches the house nor finds aaron
this just sounds like again the writing being stupid and inconsistent and not planned out
Lore and mouseflash
well at least that's one consistent thing
true
aaron is locked in the basement seemingly with the guest, left alone down there, and when he's freed he runs off, but returns. He's then taken away by his dad, who's completely lost it by then, and is taken to the museum
he's a child who's been abused and manipulated, he's not going to be thinking clearly all the time, especially when he still loves his family, especially his dad, even when he's being mistreated, that's why he goes back in the hn2 ending, could be why he comes back in the AS
In fairness, that same kid WAS kidnapped and severely traumatized by his dad, like even though it wasn’t aaron’s fault, if your dad kidnapped and severely traumatized your neighbor, you’d probably feel too guilty asking them for help
It wasn't me
I always believed he never met Nicky at all in AS anyway
He also mentions in the books that he doesn’t think he deserves friends
Books ain't canon anymore bub..
Sigh
Sigh indeed
He did that because his dad made him believe everything was his fault because Ted couldn't believe he made mistakes. Hn2/AS ted just seems to be a manipulator for the sake of it? We don't know much yet I assume they'll expand on it in those flashbacks
I'd hope so
or they could just say ted is naturally evil or something
Yeah but it’s still worth noting that’s what aaron thought of himself in the books, and probably still thinks after killing maya
Everything is canon
I mean like anyone would
I think he was trying to get away from his dad
Okay fake matpat
Theodore Peterson in the AS is literally the kind of guy to use Napalm for the funnies
ted seems to be a mix of both naturally evil and broken in the AS
well obviously he was trying to get away my point was how he waited until the last secod to do it
(literally just watch Episode 3 to understand why I think this)
Well isn’t that how he was in the books as well?
Crowfacyyy..
yeah pretty much
What the hell
LMAOOO-
AS ted is just more unhinged
Also did the cops just not find Aaron in the house I just thought of that, unless he was in the basement he had to have run off, just to come back home when no one was there, and then he gets caught and tries leaving again
and even then
Basement ain't safe because of the stupi
Toy bonnie
I still think thats not Aaron it all seems too calculated
Idk bruh, I say we wait till season 2 fully releases, we literally know nothing about it.
The guy lost a few brain cells while being locked up for months
Why was he locked up along with the guest of all things
Mhmmm
i'm not sure
HN2 intro says otherwise tho.....
Unless Aaron guest can teleport
Ofc
honestly i wont even mind aaron guest if they do it right
it makes sense with how connected they are
aaron guest, you say?
aarons theme is literally part of one of the new guest chases isn't it lol
yeah
I always saw hnvr as kinda implying Aaron guest through possession but i guess not
He makes a deal and Aaron gets basically sucked into a dark
Void
Unless that’s just
I mean, in the books it WAS his fault for everything.....
The end transition
this is so Half-Life.
i still have my mega theory on aaron guest i'm working on but you guys will have to wait for my peak theory video to drop...
guest-man
Peak
Peak
oh right I forgot they tried making ted innocent for some reason and made it so stuff like the roller coaster was partially aarons fault
can't wait to watch it
I mean its still Teds fault for not putting safety on the coaster
or any of his rides
Damn what’s your youtube
you can't blame aaron for that
i'll post it in media once the video is out
Can't blame him tho. His dad got arrested. Aaron prob thought he'd never come back. He prob thought he had the skyscraper and all the supplies to himself.
true living there would be cool, but he should've used that massive head of his
Either he ran off when the cops came like ep6 in implies, or he was just hiding in the skyscraper
Bro ☠️☠️☠️☠️
I wanna say other so bad but I think its kinda obvious
Ivan is just too suspicious
What's OCD
obsessive something disorder
Obsessive compulsive disorder
Guys
right, compulsive
Is Theo an abusive father?
Nicky scaed
really though why so big
i think the Guest was hiding in there
Is he?
What if he's also wearing the same bag as Nicky's?
is his head?
I mean I can kinda see it
I think I see his ear tho
then he flew out his ear and appeared in the middle of the road for HN2's intro
I swear those pics are new
Yeah
Idk
I believe he just wears a bag on his head like Nicky
How does that work..
One min
I don't see anyone mention how he ran back to Aaron and then kinda just left him there, then proceeded to ask "where is he?" as if he didn't just see him inside the house
the Guest:
Birb
erm thats not confirmed and just a theory 🤓
gggrrrrrr.....
Guys
Yeah that was honestly really dumb
I have this one question
Ok
Erm shut up 🤓
Theos house has like 7 floors, yet he decided to keep the basement door key in the first floor
is Ted an abusive father?
Who said it was
Yes
really?
200%
the AI broke a bit
WAIT, hold up
i have the perfect track for this
i don't, actually
just take this
GELP LMAO-
If I were him, I'd have kept the key in a secure location in the top most floor
So that rats won't steal it
Rat!
literally just melt the key and have a secret entrance for yourself
no one can open the basement door and no one will find your secret entrance either
Cellar door.....
holy moly it sounds good
Siarhei peak.
speaking of the cellar door its chained and boarded up in hnvr but nicky still somehow breaks through it in the ending, bros strong
Or maybe guest breaks it
Does anyone know what happens after hello neighbor 1?
Yes
Nicky lives a happy life
The end
all new games are already before hn1
well HN2 takes place after HN1 act 2
Before Nicky grew up
HNVR takes place between Act 1 and Act 2
Neighbor now is missing?
simming*
We dont know what happens to Theodore in HN1 Act 3 times
We only know Nicky's story in that part of the timeline
erm, asksually Ted's in the background of the City in Act 3 even in the most recent version, meaning he moves to the city after HN2 sometime 
Erm, thats a noncanon easter egg like Mith in the grave in HN2
hey i got a question when you pass the HN 2 they let you be free and investigate the map but in the last act you need to save the kid so what happend to the kid bc if you go back it wont be there
we'll find out in the content expansion update
HN2 Patch 10
Free Roam is not a canon part of the story of HN2
Huh the Two Siblings aren’t in here
The B+ guy
Bro on the who is the guest post someone commented
That's a pretty good question, maybe Aaron (the kid) will escape to the golden apple amusement park, that's why Delroy, Trinity and Nicky went to there at first
Or maybe the guest transformed into Aaron, they saw him running to the amusement park, and they went there, and then they saw the guest
We don’t know yet.
Free roam isn't canon
Isn't this the guy who botted his subscribers?
I remember he had 1k something subscribers a year ago
How can I know what happens in the books without reading them, or can I find reviews
Just gotta read them
I got no money and not being english/american I dont know if I am able to stay focus on a full book in a language that isnt my main language
so im just searching for alternatives..
LMAO 😭🙏
HAAHA
Not my nitro expiring tmr bro 😭
ok but
why is the neighbor dressed up as a bird?
Is my question
i haven't talked here in weeks
YESS
OMLLL
SAMEMEME
wait let’s talk in DMs cuz then peeps gonna, “naur ur not suppaursed to chat heearrr!!!”
Exactly, this is lore discussion.
as I was saying…. I’m talking in DMs ✨
Ik, go ahead
Anyways
What's popping you guys! Today we're gonna be discussing the LORE OF HN!
So let's get in right to it!
LOL
Can’t you get the books in other Languages?
Nah I dont think they exist
Anyone in official game theorists?
NO
I think they come in Russian and English, that’s it. 😦
That's just a game,a theory game
I'm from mexico, and i once saw in a library a HN book but in spanish
But, i don't think i've find them online
Oh, so there is some dialect languages for hn books then
he’s just chillin’
Erm actually it’s a Digital Computed Entertainment Game…THEORY
Hello Engineer
i need to hear the HE storyline
No joke, From start to finish
preferably from Micheal lore because he's awesome and more knowledgable about HN lore 🌞
Hmm!
Took this just from my hn timeline doc since its everything from the game
Also the island cause why not it was HE originally anyway. I just like the island a lot :)
Its also really important cause like, this time loop stuff existed way before the park did
And I am the HND lord
True
Jealousss
You're foresakennn
MouseFlash explained it better then I could
mainly because HE is like the only HN Game on Xbox I DON'T own so even if I wanted to I wouldn't have anything other then stuff that's already been mentioned in this server
he also included Island plot which I'm kinda...
on and off about the canonicity of
meanwhile MouseFlash owns the game so he'd know more about it's plot then I would
(I also only know some of the HNVR Lore since the game ain't even on Xbox, and HND only has a minor amount of lore so I don't think it matters much I can't play it (my tablet can't play HND for shit despite saying I could download it))
Ask me any HND question and I'm sure I will have an answer...

why are there loot boxes scattered around teds house
Why the rescue squad
Why did peterson throw glue at me and sent me into the stratosphere so i could escape act 2?
Noted.
how was the neighbor able to build this massive extension in only a few weeks
Well the guy built an amusement park
So he is truly a pro
And also cuz AS logic
He built an underground amusement park too
He totally has the ability to make act 3 an actual building
Thanks for the information Mouseflash haha
I hate you..
Ted is a High IQ Engineer, him actually constructing this thing in such a small Time Frame is obviously not Logical, but according to the Lore Ted manages to create whole Designs in insanely short Time Frames easily.
gaap was built in a month iirc?
Idk.
Might’ve been.
But Ted was just the Lead Engineer
Iirc.
Well the park had construction works. Ted built act 3 and the underground park on his own
When did he even start building the underground park
Its just there
when he was stealing stuff from the gaap (book 2)
Another Example is The Museum, Ted turned the whole thing into his own Puzzle House in the matter of a Day.
So did every other citizen
Mega geniuses in this town and they all decide to be evil instead
in hn1 they were building stuff on their own houses
Yeah but they already had their Puzzles set up, Ted had to Rush his.

