didnt it also take place during a storm at night
#lore-discussion
tame mason
Yes, but it’s definitely not as distored as Act 2.
muted moon
yeah
trail haven
Why they deleted hello guest?
stiff spire
they just changed direction
originally HG was HN2 but HG was more of a first idea before they changed it up
eventually to the open world game we have today
muted moon
eventually to the open world game we have today
"open world"
pallid marsh
So ppl say in hello neighbor 1 nicky got locked with aaron and played with him in the basement, so why in the game he wakes up instantly in the locked room without aaron and escapes first before meeting him?
muted moon
So ppl say in hello neighbor 1 nicky got locked with aaron and played with him i...
what?
worn ibex
Could someone explain to me how to make an English word become wayron croobian, I mean I know how to obviously its just rearranging the letters but how do I do it in a lore accurate way?
unkempt sleet
you arrange the letters but keep the syllables same as the original world
so it resembles the original word when you read it, but with jumbled up letters
worn ibex
Ok, could you give an example, please?
unkempt sleet
for example, "Lehho"
worn ibex
Ahhhhh
unkempt sleet
You read it as "Hello", it has the same syllables
it's not "Lheho" that would ruin the syllables
worn ibex
Cool! Ok!
unkempt sleet
worn ibex
worn ibex
You read it as "Hello", it has the same syllables
Thing is though, how do you go about names? I'm trying to do a specific name: Lucy Yi
I know yi would stay the same but Lucy?
unkempt sleet
I dont know much about the names, But i guess Lucy would be something like "Culy" or "Yucl" or something
not sure though
ripe berry
You read it as "Hello", it has the same syllables
I KNEW there was some rule like this for Wayron Croobian
Just couldn't remember the exacts
tame mason
Sometimes, the word makes no sense. Welcome is sometimes spelt as “Celvom” instead of Calwom. Where did the V come from?!
silver vine
I dont know much about the names, But i guess Lucy would be something like "Culy...
Nono, it should be like Lcuy
Since Quentin's croobian name is Quenitn
Peterson's croobian name is Teperson
It should be the same syllable
silver vine
I KNEW there was some rule like this for Wayron Croobian
Just couldn't remember ...
No, there's no specific rules for wayron croobian. It's just done at random
Since if you know sometimes One word has different croobian spellings
Welcome has calwom, kelvom, and calowom
There's no specific rules for wayron croobian, and they never stated any rules for it as of now
If there were any rules for croobian, I would've known it by now
silver vine
Sometimes, the word makes no sense. Welcome is sometimes spelt as “Celvom” inste...
They can change croobian however they want. HN1 has some well established croobian words, but games like HE have totally different wayron croobian. Steel wools HN2 DLCs have some different croobian words for school, milk, etc. HN2 croobian has some OG HN1 croobian spellings, but the HN2 FG croobian words are much easier to decipher than HN1 croobian. Eg. Hepl can easily be deciphered as help and Quenitn is easily deciphered to Quentin.
TLDR; croobian keeps changing, there's no specific set of rules for it and they have not revealed any.
indigo scaffold
Peterson's croobian name is Teperson
so, random encounters got it wrong?
shell gull
The only true “rule” to Wayron Croobian is to be Inconsistent Gibberish
crude dew
after seeing HE, I think we can safely say, that only Nikita knows, how the language works
cerulean knot
Game Theory
tame mason
after seeing HE, I think we can safely say, that only Nikita knows, how the lang...
Speaking of which: did we only find out that Nikita made the language after HN came out on iOS?
crude dew
he made HN, ofc he made the language
trail haven
Who do you think is the guest?
unkempt sleet
Guest is Guest
trail haven
Guest is Guest
Wow, you're so funny
unkempt sleet
No like, he's actually just himself
i dont think there's somebody we know under the costume
trail haven
There is gotta be someone in this costume
unkempt sleet
Why do you think that?
trail haven
He's a physical guy in hn2
trail haven
If that's your theory, it must be the shadow man
unkempt sleet
No?
trail haven
It can't be
unkempt sleet
Shadow Man is a completely unrelated entity from Guest
unkempt sleet
So you're saying if he's supernatural he must be shadow man?
unkempt sleet
not anymore, Guest is supernatural too
trail haven
It's not confirmed
unkempt sleet
did you see HNVR
trail haven
Yea, but I don't think it's cannon that the guest can become a crow
unkempt sleet
did you see AS
trail haven
What's AS, I Don't Understand
unkempt sleet
Animated Series
trail haven
WTRB?
unkempt sleet
yea
unkempt sleet
Yea okay hold on a few minutes, i'll show something
trail haven
OK
safe charm
But yeah no guest isn’t human
trail haven
Why? Give me proofs
unkempt sleet
also the sounds he make isnt human
trail haven
It was in pris's dream, isn't it?
unkempt sleet
He can also shapeshift
guestyyy you use the wrong scenes to prove your point
show Guest literally appearing out of water
and posses Theodore
unkempt sleet
also the sounds he make isnt human
safe charm
unkempt sleet
like these doesnt sound like noises human would make
unkempt sleet
also the fact that he can enter people's dreams kinda prove that too
also the fact that he can control crows
trail haven
also the fact that he can enter people's dreams kinda prove that too
He didn't enter it (I think) pris was just dreaming on him, like you dream on someone, it's not he's supernatural
unkempt sleet
she didnt saw him before though
how would she know how he looks like
Regina saw him but Pris didnt
trail haven
she didnt saw him before though
Regina told her about the guest?
unkempt sleet
I said she doesnt know how he looks like smh
unkempt sleet
also this page too
thats not a dream
Theodore goes into the water and Guest literally appears out of nowhere and drowns him. And when Theodore comes out from the water he's wearing Guest's clothes
and he does exactly the opposite of what he was trying to do a minute ago
trail haven
Are the books even cannon?
safe charm
Graphic novels i think are canon books kinda but also not really the same universe
trail haven
So that's it
unkempt sleet
https://tenor.com/view/welcome-to-raven-brooks-guest-wtrb-guest-hn-guest-hn-as-g...
what do you say about this though
unkempt sleet
or this
trail haven
Maybe the guest is a god who can teleport to different universes
unkempt sleet
what
unkempt sleet
he's a creature yea
unkempt sleet
Hello Neighbor lore
wicked heath
For me, I just think the Guest is just a divine creature. Always watching, who does things in the shadows
silver vine
Hi
unkempt sleet
hi
unkempt sleet
yea
silver vine
I thought this was general
unkempt sleet
hello lore
silver vine
Lemme read the lore real quick
ripe berry
hi
silver vine
There is gotta be someone in this costume
Things that support this:
Alex telling multiple times that guest has an identity.
Things that contradict this:
Guest being able to control crows. Guest being able to teleport. Guest being able to turn into crows. Running at inhuman speeds. Twsiting body in inhumane ways. Being able to manipulate PPL without them knowing. Making very inhumane noises. HN2 confirming that he's an ancient deity being worshipped by the cult.
trail haven
That support what?
ripe berry
a person being in the Guest Costume
unkempt sleet
theres more that contradicts it than supports it
silver vine
That support what?
There are several things in the lore contradicting your statement of guest being a person in a costume
trail haven
The guest hates the neighbor?
As we saw in alpha 1 he locked him in the attic, but you said alphas aren't cannon
unkempt sleet
he's manipulating him in AS
ripe berry
Things that support this:
Alex telling multiple times that guest has an identit...
I do believe there's a person in the Guest Costume
but the Guest itself isn't this person, but simply controlling the body of this person
allowing for the Teleportation, Crow Controlling, Inhuman Running Speed, Inhumane Body Twisting, Manipulating, and Age to make sense
and inhumane noises due to Book 7
silver vine
Just like everyone now
The Cult, Trinity, the kids and Quentin
unkempt sleet
The Cult, Trinity, the kids and Quentin
tbh it feels like he was angry at Trinity
silver vine
I do believe there's a person in the Guest Costume
but the Guest itself isn't th...
In that case, I'd say Frank
ripe berry
In that case, I'd say Frank
yeah I'd say Franklin too
silver vine
tbh it feels like he was angry at Trinity
Still, he def used her to arrest Theo, maybe?
unkempt sleet
The Cult, Trinity, the kids and Quentin
"You threw Theodore into jail i was using him so take this death coin, i hate you"
unkempt sleet
Still, he def used her to arrest Theo, maybe?
why would he want Theodore in jail?
trail haven
Franklin?
unkempt sleet
Theodore's brother
silver vine
why would he want Theodore in jail?
He doesn't want him in jail?
trail haven
I know
unkempt sleet
He doesn't want him in jail?
In Season 1 it feels like he was using him, why would he want him in jail
ripe berry
yeah I'd say Franklin too
I'm taking the path of least contradictions
and due to Alex's statements being a official source I take it as higher up then the Guest turning into a Crow in HNVR, which contradicts the AS (aka new canon)
and it explains what happens to Franklin in the Ending of the Teaser
unkempt sleet
I'm taking the path of least contradictions
and due to Alex's statements being a...
Guest turning crow doesnt contradict anything though
silver vine
I'm taking the path of least contradictions
and due to Alex's statements being a...
Guest turns into crow in AS as well tho
unkempt sleet
with Ted beating up Otto scene i think thats the case in AS too
muted moon
Epic thepry arron is geust
unkempt sleet
and Guest suddenly disappearing in Typical Raven Behaviour
trail haven
Guest turns into crow in AS as well tho
When?
silver vine
Epic thepry arron is geust
muted moon
ripe berry
I'm taking the path of least contradictions
and due to Alex's statements being a...
and even then there's probably a explanation for how the Guest pulls off turning into a crow even if there's a actual person in the costume
muted moon
Guest is 2 children in a trenchcoat
ripe berry
and even then there's probably a explanation for how the Guest pulls off turning...
no matter what I won't accept the Guest just being a person
it does too much supernatural stuff for it being a regular person to make sense
something else must be involved
muted moon
*Guest is 10 birds in a trenchcoat
ripe berry
lmao
trail haven
*Guest is 10 birds in a trenchcoat
Plot twist:
Maybe the guest thinks theo did something wrong and wants to lock him away like what happened to Aaron after he killed Mya
trail haven
We should get a game called hello guest (full ver) and the guest will be revealed and his whole story, we also should get a game/AS called LOREEEEEEE (matpat reference, I want matpat back)
muted moon
No hello guest is hn2
trail haven
No, also a game called hello guest that it's basically guest LOREEEEEEE
trail haven
They have made HN2 without LOREEEEEEE
trail haven
We need better LOREEEEEEEE
silver vine
We will get better lore
trail haven
We need HN3 to be a 7H game with a good story and a lot of LOREEEEEE
muted moon
No we will get most times being knocked out world record
safe charm
No we will get most times being knocked out world record
Btw did you know hnvr is meant to connect with current hn2 lol
hazy slate
@ripe berry where did you post it
unkempt sleet
what did he post
hazy slate
what did he post
observations from DMs
ripe berry
what did he post
tldr;
during a convo I mentioned the possibility of Act 3 of HN2 starting out in Guest World
then I mentioned a tiny piece of evidence that there's a Fairy Ring (Ring of Mushrooms) in the Forest and that in Folklore Fairy Rings are portals to Other Words
(Also mentioned how Quentin getting knocked out for the 500th time allows for a Guest World appearance due to that being how it's accessed in GN2 but that wasn't what he was asking about)
( here's where I mentioned this #hello-neighbor message )
unkempt sleet
oh yea i was there
ripe berry
I know it's weak evidence
but the devs have referenced folklore before
The Guest is quite literally a Folklore reference in itself due to it's design
(Image of the Fairy Ring that took a few minutes to port from my Xbox onto my Laptop since Idk where it'd fit to send a image of it)
ripe berry
The Guest is quite literally a Folklore reference in itself due to it's design
it's based off of a...
I forget how to spell it
hazy slate
The Guest is quite literally a Folklore reference in itself due to it's design
and we know HN people do research, As shown in GN2
hazy slate
(Image of the Fairy Ring that took a few minutes to port from my Xbox onto my La...
Would you like me to get you a better image?
ripe berry
it's based off of a...
I forget how to spell it
but it's those things that come into your home looking for trash and uh...
hazy slate
but it's those things that come into your home looking for trash and uh...
so a bear got it
ripe berry
but it's those things that come into your home looking for trash and uh...
they kinda use giant scissors to stuff the trash they find inside of you or smth?
I don't remember the exacts
schnabelperchten
that's how it's spelt
I think
ripe berry
schnabelperchten
that's how it's spelt
the exacts our they enter peoples houses and checks if they're clean
If the house isn't clean they pull out Giant scissors and fill your stomach with rocks
they look smth like this
ripe berry
the fairy ring is also surrounded by mist
yeah
ripe berry
and we know HN people do research, As shown in GN2
plus again, as you said, they do the teams do their research when it comes to some topics
Ted's Weather Machine, while highly unlikely to work, can technically function IRL
everything Ted mentions in that convo when Regina first walks in with him by the machine is real science
while still being weak evidence
there's enough to believe they could know exactly what they're doing with that
cerulean knot
Scissors
cerulean knot
Thats guest's mom
Wheres the father?
drifting pilot
WHAT
silver vine
tldr;
during a convo I mentioned the possibility of Act 3 of HN2 starting out in...
It's quite possible that act 3 could be guest world. But, how would it look like
We already have ruined town in real world
I don't think guest world would return, I mean, it's quite possible, but it will be very different from the alphas
Or maybe it will be like GN2, maybe that's where we maybe see a version or Beatrix herself there, or Quentin finally figuring out what happened to her
Still, remember what Alex said in the post mortem. "The plan was to either have the guest roam in a post apocalyptic ruined town OR be in a separate world in which the player can travel to"
I also liked to think that act 3 would be mayak and maybe amusement park.
Peterson and his son also have to be a part of act 3 in some way
strange lance
the nest has a very distinct and established look which act 3 does not have and was never planned to be the nest
it being the nest would also completely ruin the whole point of act 3 again. It's just nickys self therapy nightmare thats literally it
steady nest
Hide and seek stage 5 is the nest
cunning stream
I don't like so much hide and seek
muted moon
Hide and seek stage 5 is the nest
Isn't it just the inside of the house
ripe berry
the nest has a very distinct and established look which act 3 does not have and ...
We're talking HN2
it's not our fault we use Act 3 to refer to both the third part of HN2 (which has to exist since they definitely aren't going to leave HN2 on a Cliffhanger in a section of the game with like 0 lore) and the third part of HN1
ripe berry
I also liked to think that act 3 would be mayak and maybe amusement park.
yeah it prob will
ripe berry
it's not our fault we use Act 3 to refer to both the third part of HN2 (which ha...
but at the same time
the mention of Mayak and Amusement Park should be a dead giveaway which game we were talking about
strange lance
I saw "act 3" and nothing else and assumed it was about hn1 because nobody has been saying act 3 in relation to hn2
shell gull
It's quite possible that act 3 could be guest world. But, how would it look like
Yeah but it wouldn’t make sense chronologically.
ripe berry
how so?
oh wait
You're assuming we're talking HN1 too aren't you?
no
we're talking HN2 Act 3
as in the thing we know nearly nothing about since Catacombs Ruined Town Crowman Shelter and the Forest are all Act 2?
muted moon
I saw "act 3" and nothing else and assumed it was about hn1 because nobody has b...
Hn2 act 3 is basically confirmed based on files
muted moon
as in the thing we know nearly nothing about since Catacombs Ruined Town Crowman...
I'm currently not so sure about crowman shelter, but the rest yeah
Crowman shelter isn't really fitting anywhere currently
It also doesn't have any soundtrack remnants, unlike town and catacombs
I'd say currently crowman shelter is either act 2 or 3
trail haven
In some way, the shelter we saw in the teaser wip scene #003 looks a bit like hn1 act act 2 house. It looks like theo left it and some parts fell down or smth
I'll send the video
There is also a crow on the same tree that the guest jumps on u
And when u see the guest the crow isn't there anymore
silver vine
the nest has a very distinct and established look which act 3 does not have and ...
We're talking about HN2 Act 3 here buddy
silver vine
I saw "act 3" and nothing else and assumed it was about hn1 because nobody has b...
Well, PPL have started saying now
strange lance
You're about 10 hours late
silver vine
Since we know most of HN2 Act 2 and that forest ending the ending of act 2
silver vine
Yeah but it wouldn’t make sense chronologically.
Wdym
trail haven
But I'm talking about smth else
trail haven
You're about 10 hours late
I don't live in the same country as u (IDK where u leave but yea) so the hours aren't the same
strange lance
Well that doesn't change that he still responded 10 hours later lol
trail haven
Well that doesn't change that he still responded 10 hours later lol
Who?
strange lance
Tinycrow? The guy I was talking to above
trail haven
They crow?
strange lance
Yes
trail haven
Okay
trail haven
If you could make the hello neighbor full LOREEEEEEE, what was it (by what happens in the whole HN franchise)? You can also include alphas, betas, AS and games
unkempt sleet
games only timeline my beloved
trail haven
Timeline, but also LOREEEEEEE from games, books, AS and books
ripe berry
It also doesn't have any soundtrack remnants, unlike town and catacombs
What else could GuestForest in the Act 2 Soundbank be?
spark tulip
not to mention Shelter Hearing in Characters_Act2
trail haven
WTH are u talking about?
ripe berry
If you could make the hello neighbor full LOREEEEEEE, what was it (by what happe...
there's kind of a problem trying to fit everything HN into one timeline
AS and Books can't coexist
some characters are in Raven Brooks in the books before they move in in the AS
Book 3's Ending doesn't align with AS Episode 4 despite the fact they'd have to be the same event
etc etc
I think you get the point with that
also anything after Alpha 1 but before Full Game follows a plot where Nicky/HN1 Player Character is the Neighbor's Son
muted moon
not to mention Shelter Hearing in Characters_Act2
Isn't that also in the non-act 2 characters
spark tulip
Isn't that also in the non-act 2 characters
no?
it's only in Chacters_Act2 and Master_Bank
oh, guess it's not in Master_Bank
nevermind again
it is in Master_Bank
so, yeah. only in Characters_Act2 and Master_Bank
ah, it's also in Main_SFX
spark tulip
and, yes
Shelter Hearing is absolutely a patch #9 thing (i'm checking on the patch #8 build)
muted moon
Also, crowman transformation is town_music_storm or something like that
Since the demo uses it, I wonder if the demo was originally going to take place during a storm?
spark tulip
Since the demo uses it, I wonder if the demo was originally going to take place ...
i personally think transformation was going to be used for both the storm and Shelter outside ambience
or maybe transformation was a placeholder storm theme
i don't know
muted moon
muted moon
or maybe transformation was a placeholder storm theme
i don't know
nope, it was specifically for the storm
muted moon
as shown here
spark tulip
yeah, i know
safe charm
How can I buy the books?
Amazon
trail haven
Which ones are the best? (Also with the most LOREEEEEEE)
unkempt sleet
Which one is the best, depends on who you ask
But almost all of them filled with lore
maybe not Graphic Novel 1 though
trail haven
Which one is the best, depends on who you ask
Your opinion
unkempt sleet
I'd say Graphic Novel 2 is the best, If you're looking for the novels, Then I'd say the Aaron Trilogy (Bad Blood, Grave Mistakes, Puzzle Master)
trail haven
There's also a graphic novel 3? I remember i saw only one
unkempt sleet
Nah, There's only 2 Graphic Novels
trail haven
Only 2
unkempt sleet
The Secrets of the Bosco Bay and The Raven Brooks Disaster
Raven Brooks Disaster is the good one
trail haven
How much books? (Not graphic novels) and what is the difference between the graphic novels and the books?
stiff spire
there's 7 books and one guidebook
but don't get the guidebook it's really
really outdated
muted moon
How much books? (Not graphic novels) and what is the difference between the grap...
graphic novels are shorter
books are longer
also the graphic novels are graphic novels
trail haven
also the graphic novels are graphic novels
What does it mean? I never read a graphic novel before
stiff spire
it's like a comic
muted moon
but they are usually more serious
but other than that yeah its basically just a comic
trail haven
So the books aren't comic?
strange lance
Theres 2 graphic novels (comic books) and the main 7 books are chapter books, just words, no images
well the main 7 do have some images but they are spread through the book and not the main focus
trail haven
Ok
trail haven
Found this in Google, is it real?
eager lynx
Since it is not added in the game, what is the Story of Gray Manor?
unkempt sleet
Nothing
it was just an abandoned mansion that Theodore went to hide from the police
It's just an Early Version of the current Museum
drifting pilot
Guys when do you think Raven brooks was founded?
I want to see ur personal opinion abt it
spark tulip
Since it is not added in the game, what is the Story of Gray Manor?
it's basically the museum
eager lynx
it's basically the museum
I dont know. It is a really mystrious place.
silver vine
I dont know. It is a really mystrious place.
The devs confirmed that manor is just a prototype for museum
spark tulip
yep
silver vine
I dont know. It is a really mystrious place.
Manor and museum basically is the same, just different versions
unkempt sleet
storywise it still serves the same purpose as the museum
hazy slate
The devs confirmed that manor is just a prototype for museum
Doesn't mean I don't want it back though
silver vine
Doesn't mean I don't want it back though
The museum has a lot of similarities to the manor
Both exterior wise and interior wise, maybe a bit less on the interior
But we do know that the first floor statue room was supposed to be a living room with stairs leading to the second floor
Very similar to Alpha 2 manor
The museum exterior wise also has several similarities to the manor
Many PPL have pointed out several times
astral agate
I wonder what the lore of the Manor would've been
strange lance
Probably none since it was always just a placeholder. If it did it was probably just "old fancy manor ted hides in"
I'd still love to see the manor as its own building one day
wicked heath
Since it is not added in the game, what is the Story of Gray Manor?
early Hideout
silver vine
Hi
opal crypt
E
muted moon
I wonder what the lore of the Manor would've been
Since the prototype museum exists (that one in the beta files), I'd say it was the first proper model for the museum
Since manor probably came after
trail haven
I'd like to see the full alpha 2 out
trail haven
The manor is just better than the museum
stiff spire
I used to have a theory about the Old Manor's backstory during the early times which was it belonged to one of the founders of the town but they suddenly vanished without a trace leaving the manor empty and as time went on by it became old and broken down
muted moon
I used to have a theory about the Old Manor's backstory during the early times w...
you mostly predicted museum story
snow mauve
The manor is just better than the museum
Nah
ripe berry
I used to have a theory about the Old Manor's backstory during the early times w...
basically the lore of the Museum
just missing the period of time it was a Museum before getting shut down since "none of the investors wanted to repair it"
shell gull
I used to have a theory about the Old Manor's backstory during the early times w...
That’s actually one of the Main Theories we’ve had on the Museum, it makes sense too when looking deeper into the Museum.
drifting pilot
Yeah the sumeum's structure Is too house-ish to be invisioned as a sumeum
ripe berry
and it surprisingly aligns way too closely with a 1930s Museum to be a coincidence
snow mauve
Canon?
warm finch
Canon mb
shell gull
and it surprisingly aligns way too closely with a 1930s Museum to be a coinciden...
Yyyyup
ripe berry
AS is the new canon
ripe berry
everyone has their own opinions on what exactly is no longer canon but AS and HN2 is the basis of the new canon
ripe berry
Bro there’s old and new canon?
yeah
warm finch
Ohhh and thanks
snow mauve
Bro there’s old and new canon?
The books is old lore
With the games I guess
While new lore is animated series
shell gull
When is season 2 coming out
AS is canon to the New Lore, it’s complicated, there’s Two Canons.
snow mauve
While new lore is animated series
But with the games in a different narrative
silver vine
This lore is way to complicated for the game
Basically, books is old canon, cartoon is new canon, games is inbetween
That is basically it
stiff spire
true
snow mauve
Jolly golds
stiff spire
depkis's
tame mason
Basically, books is old canon, cartoon is new canon, games is inbetween
The canon was so confusing that they had to retell it in an animated series and mass tag MatPat to make a lore video. HE ACTUALLY DID IT.
snow mauve
The canon was so confusing that they had to retell it in an animated series and ...
That shit being tagged was a lil mistake..
stiff spire
he went over the pilot frame by frame instead of the finalized show
silver vine
The canon was so confusing that they had to retell it in an animated series and ...
And he went over the non canon pilot instead of the actual show
tribal talon
With the games I guess
Is it possible that there are no more games?
trail haven
We will always get games, that was how it all started and that's how it will end
astral agate
And he went over the non canon pilot instead of the actual show
That's probably cause that's what the meme is linked to
snow mauve
Is it possible that there are no more games?
Nope
tame mason
And he went over the non canon pilot instead of the actual show
Yeah, that is what the meme is linked to. Plus, he did go over some canon stuff in HN2. Like the Forest Protectors and the books.
unkempt sleet
tbh i didnt care about the meme, i wanted an actual look into HN2 or the Actual Show itself
not some outdated pilot because "oo its the meme" or something
unkempt sleet
bro im talking about his video on HN pilot
astral agate
Ik. You said you wanted him to look at the actual show or hn2
I mean he kinda did
Hold on
astral agate
I can't find the video he made on hn2
It's about forest protectors
So he kinda made one ig
But as you said I'm not gonna argue either
astral agate
Ik but atleast he talked about it
And we could be getting more hn theories with Tom now but idk
shut hill
If Tom does not make a theory on hn2 or WTRB then he will be sacrificed to my demons
drifting pilot
If Tom does not make a theory on hn2 or WTRB then he will be sacrificed to my de...
nah we will send him strait to the guest
indigo scaffold
If Tom does not make a theory on hn2 or WTRB then he will be sacrificed to my de...
WTRB would be a film theory
drifting pilot
WTRB would be a film theory
then hn2 would be a game theory, then neighbor's clothes would be a fashion theory
shut hill
WTRB would be a film theory
Erm matpat pilot frame by frame was on game theory..
drifting pilot
Erm matpat pilot frame by frame was on game theory..
oh i forgor
indigo scaffold
Erm matpat pilot frame by frame was on game theory..
GT has more subs and views and more iconic, and since it was one of the last theories he just decided to make it
but i think a full show theory would be on the proper channel
peak pasture
did yall know that theres a simming poster you can pick up in act 3??
heres the vid of me finding it (btw its the switch release)
legit i never knew it existed
wicked heath
did yall know that theres a simming poster you can pick up in act 3??
Im more curious onto why the sky is like this
Is this Switch?
peak pasture
Im more curious onto why the sky is like this
i found more
theres a mask in a shopping cart under the big sign
wicked heath
Is this Switch?
?
peak pasture
mail in a mailbox outside the area you can go to
peak pasture
Is this Switch?
yes its switch
wicked heath
Ah. Had a feeling
peak pasture
legit i have never seen any of this stuff lol
shouldve brought a bear trap to clip in
i see a detailed house
im going to it
cant go in
here are some images
im so confused
i cant pick any of the items up
yo @wicked heath any idea what "calwom oot wayron croobs" mean?
i found it on a sign
wicked heath
yo <@720448070588039168> any idea what "calwom oot wayron croobs" mean?
Welcome to Raven Brooks
peak pasture
oh lol
wicked heath
And on the back, it says “Come Back”
peak pasture
i thought it said look back lol
ill send a image of the mask
legit this is new to me lol
btw
wicked heath
ill send a image of the mask
If you want another cool Youtuber easter egg, go check the lake by the factory
wicked heath
You havent planted the seed?
peak pasture
ive found it out of bounds
wicked heath
heres all the items ive found outside
Theres more :)
peak pasture
i think i know where to plant it'
and its not at the neighbors house
found another simming poster
at the police station
peak pasture
Theres more :)
i found the secret lol
is it possible to put it on one of the gramaphones?
all ive found is a crashed satalite with that one golden disk we sent out into space
found the truck that killed petersons wife
falling through the void
@wicked heath im going to collect all the items and put them inside the kitchen
ill show you when im done collecting them
muted moon
And on the back, it says “Come Back”
doesnt it say good luck?
wicked heath
doesnt it say good luck?
Actually forgor
peak pasture
almost have all the items outside the main area
@wicked heath
here it is
seed, newspaper, simming poster, party hat, mask, and music disk
supple coral
this game looks terrible on switch
trail haven
Is the truck that killed Diane still there?
strange lance
guess what the final room where the guest confronts ted is called 
wicked heath
guess what the final room where the guest confronts ted is called <:troll:113519...
even years later, you're still accomplishing your mission. This clip is mine now :)
snow mauve
Is the truck that killed Diane still there?
Duh
peak pasture
Is the truck that killed Diane still there?
yes the truck is by the lake
snow mauve
Sweet destruction
peak pasture
the truck is by the lake to dump the corpse of diane
snow mauve
the truck is by the lake to dump the corpse of diane
Erm no
snow mauve
it was joke
peak pasture
trail haven
yes the truck is by the lake
So that might say that theo freaked out not a long time after Diane died
It doesn't really help but yea
peak pasture
theres also 4 boats if that seems important
2 crashed near the music disk
and 2 still in the water
WAIT
i might have a theory
that will make me sound like im hella high
the 2 crashed boats represent petersons wife and daughter
and the 2 floating boats represents him and his son
petersons boat has a sail that allows him to go anywhere
while his son is stranded
trail haven
Cool theory, sounds like matpat
peak pasture
lol
theres also a shark if that is any importance
maybe the shark represents petersons mental state that prevents him from ever beaching and keeps him and his son trapped in the lake
trail haven
Is there something else?
peak pasture
nope
except the factory
unless a factory dumping chemicals into the water supply is any importance
peak pasture
i dont have a theory for the factory
peak pasture
guy named raven when he decides to make a town (hes going to name it ravenbrooks)
snow mauve
guy named raven when he decides to make a town (hes going to name it ravenbrooks...
Genius
drifting pilot
https://tenor.com/view/calm-interaction-neighbors-hello-neighbor-fighting-gif-16...
if that's calm then i am the guest
trail haven
Just saw the lost bits of hello neighbor alphas & betas, and then I understood that the petersons stick together is linked with the school fear room, because theo was bullied by the dolls, like the dolls were real people, the real people are the bullies in the teaser
snow mauve
Just saw the lost bits of hello neighbor alphas & betas, and then I understood t...
Good observation but I don't think that's really the case
For Nicky's perspective in the school fear room minigame
trail haven
It's nicky plays in theo's past
snow mauve
Nope
Even tho books may not be canon anymore, it was shown how Nicky got most of his fear rooms from the mannequins he saw moving when going in the basement which is the main cause of it
But also stuff like the supermarket fear room
When Nicky was young his grandma (i think) would just leave him alone in the supermarket there which is also the reason how he got that from
trail haven
I think it's confirmed that the fear rooms are theo's fears, not nicky's
wooden hollow
I think it's confirmed that the fear rooms are theo's fears, not nicky's
The books pretty much say the opposite
unkempt sleet
I think it's confirmed that the fear rooms are theo's fears, not nicky's
Nuh uh
Thats not confirmed, the opposite is confirmed though
snow mauve
Thank you green and apple
peak pasture
yo i caught peterson in my house
hello neighbor but the roles are reversed lol
hes going to the church
i swear peterson in my game is alive
wicked heath
Containment breach!!
pale urchin
hes going to the church
Did he pray today?
ripe berry
i swear peterson in my game is alive
wait until this guy hears about the Error World Plotline
ripe berry
while his son is stranded
no wae
peak pasture
me on my way to break through my matrix boundrys to go to church and mourn at my dead wife’s grave
wicked heath
wait until this guy hears about the Error World Plotline
Hes on switch, so unfortunately, we are gonna have to explain
peak pasture
I know about error world plot lol
saw a vid long time ago
im glad i forgot most of the glitches
it makes it more fun whenever i find them
manic dirge
I like how the invisible wall doesn’t him
trail haven
Should I buy the books? Its almost a 100 dollars and I'm not swimming in money but I really want them
cunning stream
Hes going to visit his wife
trail haven
Should I?
muted moon
the guest has the ability to create portals
trail haven
the guest has the ability to create portals
THE GUEST HAS THE ABILITY TO CREATE PORTALS?!?
muted moon
yes
in old lore at least
you see the blue things here? theyre called portal rifts/guest portals/portal cracks in the files
and the audio used in this scene is related to a "guest portal"
trail haven
Is it S&R
unkempt sleet
yes
ripe berry
you see the blue things here? theyre called portal rifts/guest portals/portal cr...
So the Guest can make portals...
fallen wolf
you see the blue things here? theyre called portal rifts/guest portals/portal cr...
Wow
unkempt sleet
I mean what'd y'all think anyway when you first saw that in HNVR
muted moon
I mean what'd y'all think anyway when you first saw that in HNVR
Feathers
snow mauve
Should I?
Yeah sure even tho they're probably not canon anymore you can at least have fun reading the expanded story
trail haven
Where's general in the server?
silver vine
Where's general in the server?
#hello-neighbor
trail haven
WTH
trail haven
What the heck?
ripe berry
Language young man!
there's no damn way
snow mauve
there's no damn way
DAMN
trail haven
there's no damn way
What is this?
ripe berry
you can't tell the image is just a pixelated trollface?
snow mauve
What is this?
Hello neighbor 3
trail haven
you can't tell the image is just a pixelated trollface?
I understood that, but maybe there was something else
snow mauve
I understood that, but maybe there was something else
NO
muted moon
no this isnt for memes this is for discussing the lore
muted moon
POV: You are in taxidermists house (He boughta give you the otto special)
this is not a lore
peak pasture
no this isnt for memes this is for discussing the lore
the lore is his name is otto and hes going to shoot you point blank
all of which is confirmed
secret neighbor confirmed taxidermist is named otto
muted moon
secret neighbor confirmed taxidermist is named otto
yeah
well no
it was confirmed long before that
mighty sage
Stupid Headcanon - Whenever someone in Raven Brooks swears, a crow conveniently passes by and caws loudly to censor them.
So in other words, Pre-Release Theodore swearing would sound like
"COME HERE YOU BIG ( caw )"
peak pasture
“ILL TELL YOU WHAT YOU (caw) GET YOUR (caw) OUT OF HERE BEFORE I BLAST YER (caw) HEAD OFF!! “ Otto the taxidermist
pale urchin
POV: You are in taxidermists house (He boughta give you the otto special)
Did you pray today ah joke
muted moon
so i reread puzzle master after a few years and at one point norman says he told someone whos last name is ROTH about the luck devices and cult and stuff
he also implied that something went wrong with the devices, and it was to do with rodger and adele (i dont know how to spell her name)
also, if he WAS quentin, that would mean, after being sent back in time, quentin went back to investigative journalism under a fake name
and norman darby was specifically an investigative journalist
also, heres how the devices work:
they are able to detect (and possibly predict) the weather
when used in some sort of ritual during a storm, they do 2 things:
- 1: worsening the weather
- 2: bringing the user good luck
if some sort of balance is disrupted, it can affect the weather, and the users, and can take away the good luck
the tunnels, the observatory, and the devices also all came from the same (ancient) source
steady nest
Why is ikes name quentin again?
muted moon
Why is ikes name quentin again?
ike quentin cornelius gershowitz
quentin was probably (back in hg times) planned to be ike
steady nest
Why does blud have 4 names ☠️
muted moon
Why does blud have 4 names ☠️
2 middle names
ike also happened to be one of the people who knew about the luck devices and the cult
which is why the cult killed him
steady nest
Ike being Quentin and Norman existing are in the same book
If someone can figure that out
Ill personally donate 5 dollars to that person
muted moon
ike isnt quentin, they became 2 different people after hg was scrapped
muted moon
ike isnt quentin, they became 2 different people after hg was scrapped
probably still related though
as in like genetically
steady nest
Then why is he called quentin? They simply could've deleted that name when writing the book
But they didn't and they also introduced norman
That's whats been bugging me ever sincer ive read book 6
muted moon
Then why is he called quentin? They simply could've deleted that name when writi...
quentin isnt in the book, only norman and ike are
steady nest
Yea but i was saying why hasn't carly deleted "Quentin" from the ikes wallet or whatever it was
Also ike is cool
Damn now that i look back the books were so cool
I hope mith is in the AS
Anyways so what was the deal with quentin, norman and ike
muted moon
norman is quentin sent back in time, ike was someone trusted by norman to know about the cult and the luck devices, quentin is just a guy whos probably related to ike
muted moon
because, back when book 4 released, they were the same person
muted moon
because, back when book 4 released, they were the same person
of course that then changed
and they became seperate
steady nest
Well if that was scrapped by book 6, why is he still called Quentin
muted moon
hes not called quentin in book 6
snow mauve
Lol..
Idk where you got that from busfring
That's definitely not what the book mentioned
steady nest
Hes not?
snow mauve
Duhhhhh
steady nest
Then where is he called quentin
snow mauve
Nowhere
muted moon
HIS MIDDLE NAMES
snow mauve
Ike Quentin
steady nest
Yes
muted moon
IKE QUENTIN CORNELIUS GERSHOWITZ
snow mauve
🤯
snow mauve
IKE QUENTIN CORNELIUS GERSHOWITZ
Holyyyyy
steady nest
Man shut yo bi-
muted moon
Yea but i was saying why hasn't carly deleted "Quentin" from the ikes wallet or ...
they never showed the wallet in book 6
muted moon
norman talking about ike and his wallet
steady nest
Ive read the book when it camed out and never touched it since
steady nest
Why is ikes middle name quentin 
snow mauve
Because
muted moon
it just is
snow mauve
Parents
muted moon
yeah
muted moon
because, originally they were the same person
steady nest
I WILL MURDER A COCKROACH
muted moon
Blud is starting to act like Guestyyy
guestyyy actually understands this stuff though
snow mauve
guestyyy actually understands this stuff though
Not really
steady nest
In which book is ikes full name showed
snow mauve
He is pretty much insane and rambling about nonsense
muted moon
THEN WHY IS HIS MIDDLE NAME QUENTIN IN BOOK 6
because it still is
why scrap it
it means nothing
snow mauve
thats should've been scrapped by then
It is now
steady nest
Because hes not quentin in book 6
snow mauve
Buddy
snow mauve
Because hes not quentin in book 6
Goood
muted moon
Because hes not quentin in book 6
his middle name is quentin, but hes a different guy
steady nest
his middle name is quentin, but hes a different guy
WHY
steady nest
I SWEAR TO GOD ILL PULL OUT A MINIGUN
muted moon
they are related most likely
steady nest
because they didnt want to have to retcon it
WHAT
snow mauve
Halloween i think it's best you don't say anything else..
Busfring is about to explode
muted moon
the books have practically never retconned other books
its better that way
steady nest
the books have practically never retconned other books
Was Ike's middle name stated to be quentin in book 4?
muted moon
Was Ike's middle name stated to be quentin in book 4?
probably, i havent read that one in a few years
the wallet
steady nest
🔫
muted moon
probably has it
muted moon
it was probably stated somewhere in book 4 anyway
steady nest
It was just IKE CORNELIUS GERSHOWITZ
In book 4
Everything was plain and beautiful
BUT THEN
muted moon
have you read book 4 recently
steady nest
No
muted moon
so what if your just misremembering
snow mauve
I forgot moat of the books lore
steady nest
I DONT
steady nest
I REMEMBER CLEARLY
snow mauve
Somehow
snow mauve
Cornelius
steady nest
And beautiful
muted moon
<@616605662021025792> !!!!!
thats actually a good idea
steady nest
IN A MOMENT OF ENLIGHTENMENT
steady nest
DECIDED IT WOULD BE A GREAY IDEA
snow mauve
Busfring chillllllll
snow mauve
Why are you so pissed over a middle name 😭
muted moon
AND THAT WOULDN'T BE A PROBLEM
please stop talking
steady nest
IF NORMAN WOULDN'T BE IN THE SAME BOOK
steady nest
so if anyone can explain that ill literally donate 100 dollars to a cat
steady nest
please stop talking
Mimimimimi
muted moon
IF NORMAN WOULDN'T BE IN THE SAME BOOK
steady nest
Where is that lore master
snow mauve
steady nest
Explain it
muted moon
quentin and ike are different people
steady nest
Ok i guess nobody can book lore makes no sense
muted moon
quentin and ike are different people
its not that hard
snow mauve
Ok i guess nobody can book lore makes no sense
Buy a book
steady nest
quentin and ike are different people
Man have you not been here this entire conversation?
peak pasture
Why are y’all arguing about a news reporters name?
peak pasture
real
muted moon
Man have you not been here this entire conversation?
they are just different people
steady nest
Ill put out a rocket launcher
peak pasture
Unpopular opinion: i enjoyed the full release of hn1 and hn2
idk why yall think the puzzles in hn1 is convoluted
snow mauve
Unpopular opinion: i enjoyed the full release of hn1 and hn2
I am so proud of you son..
We are winning!!!!
peak pasture
the only puzzle that stumped me is making it up to the top of the house with the lader gate being locked
snow mauve
idk why yall think the puzzles in hn1 is convoluted
Act 3 is the one where it's dumb
Act 1 is good, act 2 is alright
peak pasture
funny enough i just backed the tram in and jumped onto it lol
muted moon
Act 3 is the one where it's dumb
if you already know the puzzles its pretty fun though (i dont mean messing with bugs, i mean just playing normally)
snow mauve
if you already know the puzzles its pretty fun though (i dont mean messing with ...
Yeah
It's still fun nonetheless
peak pasture
if you already know the puzzles its pretty fun though (i dont mean messing with ...
i find the bugs charming lol
peak pasture
The only bug that i found disturbing is for some reason on a random day whenever i touch certain walls ill just be sent to a black void with the neighbor ambiance of him near you
Legit first time it happened i crapped myself lol
the only thing i hate about hn1 is the school fear room
that luck based gameplay is bs
snow mauve
the only thing i hate about hn1 is the school fear room
Yeah..
It's still not fun to this day
peak pasture
i have just had a devishly evil idea
hold and let me do some cookin rq
Almost finished
“Hello everybody my name is nicky roth and today ill be playing Hello Neighbor”
peak pasture
this is only a taste of what is to come
sonic scroll
are previous alphas before the full version canon or na
peak pasture
are previous alphas before the full version canon or na
i dont think they are canon
ripe berry
HN1 Alphas aren't canon
HN1 Betas aren't canon
any pre-release build other then HN2 Alpha 1.5 has no statements implying it to be canon
sonic scroll
any pre-release build other then HN2 Alpha 1.5 has no statements implying it to ...
the hello guest alpha where you climb a tower (I don’t remember it properly) isn’t canon?
ripe berry
nope
snow mauve
the hello guest alpha where you climb a tower (I don’t remember it properly) isn...
Hello guest was never canon
peak pasture
Hello guest was never canon
help
i bear trapped peterson and now hes never not chasing me
snow mauve
Cool
peak pasture
ill send a vid of it
sonic scroll
Hello guest was never canon
that’s crazy
peak pasture
sonic scroll
hello guest was my fav game
snow mauve
Hello guest is pretty mid in my opinion
peak pasture
I recreated the glitch
idk if its patched or not
he always chases and there is no chase music
sonic scroll
Hello guest is pretty mid in my opinion
nuh uh it’s the best
sonic scroll
he always chases and there is no chase music
probably because he chased you for too long or he’s just running (running ≠ chasing you)
peak pasture
probably because he chased you for too long or he’s just running (running ≠ chas...
nah the beartrap did it (its shown in the vid)
drifting pilot
Hello guest is pretty mid in my opinion
Hello guest was more "idk what this but i like It"
sonic scroll
More like HOT garbage..
i will find you and i will bury you alive in a grave
sonic scroll
Hello guest was more "idk what this but i like It"
aren’t all hello neighbor games like that
because the houses are too big and there’s a lot of achievements to get
snow mauve
Hello guest was more "idk what this but i like It"
To me I just didn't like it
drifting pilot
To me the only problem Is that the guest becomes more stalkery like After the First shift
And the guest during the First shift Is like none-existing💀
So yeh
peak pasture
hol up i just had an idea
tell me a glitch that was patched in patches 2 and higher in detail and ill try to do them
switch hn1 only has one patch
shell gull
Hello guest is pretty mid in my opinion
Hello guest=HN-2
silver vine
probably 5 too
What're you on bruh
Book 6 is the ONLY book to reveal Ike's full name
We did not know his middle name was Quentin before book 6
I was here when books 5 and 6 released
silver vine
the books have practically never retconned other books
Are you sure about that
silver vine
Timycrow ain't a lore master..
wicked heath
Timycrow ain't a lore master..
You dare defy history??
snow mauve
You dare defy history??
Yes
fallow spade
i have an theory so imbir is going to destroy entire universe and going to kidnap mr.peterson and eat him to save Aaron before the main characters save Aaron
after that Imbir created an new universe and becomed the king of this universe.Also eated other universes so he becomed fattest cat in world and becomed fatter than caseoh.Caseoh found imbir and they fighted so imbir won and he becomed god
Is imbir Pro or something lol😎
pale urchin
after that Imbir created an new universe and becomed the king of this universe.A...
GOD!?
fallow spade
yes.
wicked heath
I found the cat from hn2 irl
looks nothing like imbir lmao
muted moon
looks nothing like imbir lmao
it does, the lightings just shit
muted moon
looks nothing like imbir lmao
muted moon
The Neighbor's name is Mart
fair kelp
The Neighbor's name is Mart
i love Fgteev 
winter mason
The Neighbor's name is Mart
FGTeeV…
unkempt sleet
Fat Wilson
silver vine
Mart
ripe berry
Theodore Peterson
unkempt sleet
Theodore Peterson
Theodore Masters Peterson
frigid pumice
Pe pe
winter mason
Peodore Theterson
fickle quail
The neighbor is getting very angry. But the two of you got it right
The answer is Theodore M. Peterson
unkempt sleet
nah its Fat Wilson
winter mason
The neighbor is getting very angry. But the two of you got it right
Peodore noob theterson
fickle quail
When he catches you hiding in the closet, he’ll gasp twice
delicate citrus
peterson was trying to protect arron
silver cargo
Have you ever noticed that the photos in the HN world are also in the drawing style?
I find this aspect really cool and creative.
Imagine you take a photo of a person and the photo comes out in a comic/drawn style.
misty sentinel
in hn2 has anyone found the last button for the cassette player? I can only find three...
snow mauve
in hn2 has anyone found the last button for the cassette player? I can only find...
There's only 3 for now
The last button hasn't been added yet
So you pretty much got all
misty sentinel
So you pretty much got all
oh okay thx
orchid kayak
Hello, can someone tell me what this HN2 Halloween update poster means, I think the girl on the poster is Beatrix from HG, but I don't know what they are advertising on the poster
unkempt sleet
Let me translate
muted moon
deelday
unkempt sleet
Deadly Hiding
Still no word on the missing girl. "We were just playing hide and seek with Beatrix," says her brother Q-
The brother Q in question is probably Quentin
muted moon
quantity
orchid kayak
okay thank you
true mica
trail haven
Q- = Quentin?!?
It can't be Quentin
Because of the mixed words in hn franchise
It can't be Quentin
trail haven
Theory: Franklin is the guest
snow mauve
Theory: Franklin is the guest
Garbage!!!!
trail haven
But let me explain
ripe berry
Garbage!!!!
let them cook
ripe berry
Franklin being the Guest, while some may not like it, is ultimately the most likely option
if it helps you believe it Franklin isn't 100% the Guest in the most common interpetation, but the Guest is using Franklin as a host body of sorts to interact with the HN World
snow mauve
Franklin being the Guest, while some may not like it, is ultimately the most lik...
Me don't likey
ripe berry
Me don't likey
some don't like the fact they retconned the lore in the first place
doesn't mean it isn't the case
snow mauve
some don't like the fact they retconned the lore in the first place
doesn't mean...
Yeah I know
But if it's Franklin then it's definitely gonna take me a while to slowly get used to it..
trail haven
Franklin didn't die, he came back to life but without a soul or something, so now he is - franklin and the shadow man, now, before all of you get mad on me for saying this because "the shadow man is nicky's fears", I don't think that its the case because at the end of hn1 we see theo afraid from the shadow man, so maybe he is not just in nickys head
ripe berry
the shadow man isn't Nicky's Fears
it's Fear and Trauma in General
snow mauve
snow mauve
the shadow man isn't Nicky's Fears
it's Fear and Trauma in General
Kinda the same
trail haven
Yea
ripe berry
the shadow man isn't Nicky's Fears
it's Fear and Trauma in General
it's just the main appearance of the character is from a game where we play as Nicky
it also appears as a cameo in SN when you kill the Neighbor in that game
you can see it for a small bit as the black particles separate and move to where the Neighbor respawns or smth Idk where they go exactly
this is why Ted also seems to interact with the Thing
this was officially stated btw
I don't have time to dig through the entirety of the old QnAs to find it but it was officially stated
ripe berry
(you're clearly trolling)