lore-discussion

[strange lance]

My beloved

They did remove this plot from the AS/hn2 sadly

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Eh i dont like the manifestation thing anymore

I used too

But now its kinda mid

[stiff patio]

he so cool tho

[safe charm]

The guest is cool

But i dont like the manifestation thing

Better having him be an ancient entity

[stiff patio]

manifestation thing?

sorry i literally just caught up with the nicky trilogy

trying to get through it all and the other stuff

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Btw Can i ask you another book question lol

[manic dirge]

everything is cannon

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In reset day the kids say they flew over from germany to build the gaap but then something happened and mr Peterson kinda went of the rails after that

I still dont get what event

They mean

[stiff patio]

im willing to run with that

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If its ike death

Or Lucy death

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I Think it like this

AS is the hn lore told in a different way

Books is also another way

The games is the main lore

[strange lance]

Basically

Teds grief and anger birthed the guest

Blobby thing

[stiff patio]

so he just transforms into big bird?

[strange lance]

Then that happened

[strange lance]

Yes he can shapeshift

[stiff patio]

ooooo

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Also its so weird they retconned mr Peterson

[strange lance]

And he chose the bird mascot to be his primary form

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In aaron trilogy

His personality

He actually likes aaron in aaron trilogy in nicky trilogy he doesnt seem to like him

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man i really gotta catch up with everything

who on earth is Ted lol

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Mr Peterson

[stiff patio]

oh

yeah nickname

shouldve saw that coming a mile away

[stiff patio]

so basically just run with the games lore but you can take parallels and whatnot from the AS and books to make sense of stuff in the games

[strange lance]

Here is the full timeline

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Do we know the blob

[strange lance]

Spoilers of course

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Is the guest

True form

Like in gn2 hes a blob once

[strange lance]

Twice actually

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But how do we know its his true form

[strange lance]

The guest uses that blob form when he first arrives to someone, and then forms up his full body, he also uses it to move around. Plus it being a shapeless blob makes sense, he would see the statue and them form into the bird mascot suit.

This plot is legit the same thing from fnaf btw

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Also can you explain something to me

Lol

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This

[strange lance]

Both characters start out as shapeless blobs, take form of something their creator made after seeing it, and then use that form while also using their og one.

[stiff patio]

wait so Aaron isnt actually in HN2?

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He is

[strange lance]

It was probably the death of his family?

Or the constant death of his park riders

Either one works

[strange lance]

No he is

In the full game

In the original hn2 he was not there

It was a trap

As aaron was dead

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Also why is reset day guest so weird

Like hes a smoke

[strange lance]

Monster bird

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Thing

Like Whar

[strange lance]

Exhales smoke, longer lankier limbs, feathers growing out, still has his hood and beak with ted inside, roars, shapeshifts still

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What happened between gn2 and rd

[stiff patio]

oh ok

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Man guest changed

So much

[stiff patio]

so we're kind of just running with the current HN2 not being canon

cuz that would throw a wrench into things as i understand it

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Its just a confusing mess story wise it

Doesnt Tie well into anything currently

[strange lance]

I guess it's mostly follow whichever one sounds cooler to you lol

[stiff patio]

lmao

[strange lance]

Theres the continuity with all hn games and books (minus HN2 full game and AS) or the one with just hn2 full game and AS

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Is AS Ted a murderer

Thats what im intrested about

Because he sure doesnt seem to mind violence

[stiff patio]

im pretty sure he kills someone doesnt he

[strange lance]

I mean we haven't seen him actually kill anyone himself

He tries to kill the kids

But fails

Attempted murderer

[safe charm]

Would book Ted try to kill any of the kids

[strange lance]

Nah

But he does try and kill the rescue squad (understandable) in hnvr and HE

They are annoying

[stiff patio]

yeah id forgive him if i was the law

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Also why did they retcon teds personality in the books do you Think

In aaron trilogy

Because in the video tape from book 1 that takes place During gaap construction Ted views

Aaron as a bad omen already and doesnt seem to like him very much but in aaron trilogy he loves aaron

What is going on man

[sinful flint]

i doubt he wanted to straight up kill them

probably just

hurt them so theyd leave

[stiff patio]

beat the crap out of them

[sinful flint]

i feel like he'd know having even more blood on his hands wouldnt do him good

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id love to spawn a bird manifestation out of my guilt

[sinful flint]

true

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[manic dirge]

how much later does GN2 take after HN2

[strange lance]

I'd say a quite a few months since he would need time to build the weather machine, at the latest a year

[manic dirge]

Ah ok

and would you say the investigation at his house is still going?

[strange lance]

I don't think it would. After all that time with ted nowhere to be found, they probably just dropped the case.

And in reset day we see that the house is just abandoned now

Vandalized

[manic dirge]

true

[safe charm]

Btw suggestion Could you draw

Reset day guest

Like in more detail

[astral agate]

He has a different design?

[safe charm]

Yes

[astral agate]

Where

[astral agate]

What does it looks like?

[safe charm]

This

[astral agate]

I don't think that's the guest

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Is reset day guest

It is

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I think that was a sketch drawn by a local

It's what they saw

I saw that somewhere

Idk if its true tho

[strange lance]

Sure :D

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Btw it doesnt look like a costume tbh but it still is

Right

So why is his feet like that lol

[astral agate]

This cannot be the guest

It looks too different

[strange lance]

That wood carving isn't a totally accurate depiction

[safe charm]

Hm

[strange lance]

It's an over exagerattion

[safe charm]

How does he really look then

[strange lance]

The guest is described by pris and he doesn't look like that entirely

He still has a hood

Normal beak

He has longer limbs but not 3 fingers and toes

[safe charm]

I need you to draw it

Lol

[strange lance]

I shall

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Btw have you read book 1 recently?

[strange lance]

Yes

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When was the home video

Filmed

That nicky sees

Its just doesnt happen in aaron trilogy

For some reason

[strange lance]

It doesn't really describe the room, but since that scene isn't in the Aaron trilogy when they move their, I'm assuming before they moved

Maybe in Germany

No clue

[safe charm]

Yeah maybe

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It feels like it was by gn1 Ted started to lose

His mind tbh

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Also does Ted move his Office up and down

Because in aaron trilogy he moves it down

But in nicky trilogy he moves it down again i Think

[strange lance]

basically what resest day guest is

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I wonder what Ted looks like

Under the beak

Like this?

[manic dirge]

woa thats cool

[shell gull]

GN1 is when he did, it’s the only time he’s sane and at the end of GN1 we see his Sanity go away.

[shell gull]

It’s practically the Carving just coloring and extra features such as Long Claws which you showed.

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[untold lark]

vector

what has happened vector

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i will

[gleaming crown]

So if I wanted to, I can write Hello Neighbor in the more modern times?

[brazen edge]

Yes but it cant be passed off as official, only fanmade

Does anyone know when Raven Brooks Disaster takes place?

[winter mason]

The golden apple disaster?

I’m pretty sure it was mentioned that HN1 as adult nicky takes place in the 90’s, with nicky being in his 30’s I think the actual events of the game should take place in like the 70’s

So thats roughly when the disaster would be

Maybe

[brazen edge]

Yeah im fairly sure it was in 90s it showed in documents in the books and theres dates in foods in the game that show 90

So I guess Raven Brooks Disaster must be during Aaron’s story like the second or third book

I think act 3 is modern day

[winter mason]

I haven’t read any books passed buried secrets, which I should probably do lmao

[brazen edge]

They’re really good imo, gives way more insight into peterson and his past

Like i love how we get to learn more and more about him

[winter mason]

Act 3 I’m pretty sure is the 90’s or at most Y2k, seeing as the furniture in nicky’s real life apartment aren’t modern (such as the box tv, VHS player and even the decor)

[safe charm]

Do you Think he was insane already or not

In book 1 people i asked

Says different

[winter mason]

Fr, Carly Anne west did a phenomenal job with the books

[brazen edge]

I just wish she kept going with reset day

[winter mason]

The books are so in depth, they’re masterpieces

[brazen edge]

I think it was after bosco bay, it was like the first accident and the kids got away

[safe charm]

Yeah

[brazen edge]

Even then he was still kinda like a villain

[brazen edge]

For sure

[safe charm]

The AS is good too

But its telling the story in a different way from the Books

[brazen edge]

I havent watched it yet, planning to after raven brooks disaster

But a TV show is a great idea

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I wonder what the origin of the guest is

[brazen edge]

Ah so its like a retelling, thats good to know i was unsure about when it took place

I would like to know about the guests origin, but i think not knowing is kinda cool too, it’s like bigfoot or the lochness monster, it adds to the mystery

[safe charm]

Well

Alex Said this

We Will likely find out in the AS and hn2

[brazen edge]

Well at least the show might answer it now

Or HN2

[safe charm]

I have a theory

In hello neighbor vr the shadow of the guest towers over mr Peterson

I Think the guest helped drive him insane

[brazen edge]

I havent played VR yet

[safe charm]

Well guest is in it

[brazen edge]

Happy about that i love any story with the guest in it

[safe charm]

Also um when does the home video in book 1 take place

You Think

Like in your opinion

In germany?

Or raven Brooks

[brazen edge]

I think not too sure

[safe charm]

Oh

I wonder what happened at the end of book 1

With the blood on the window

Never understood that

[brazen edge]

Yeah true we never really found out about that

[safe charm]

We do kinda see his decent into madness

In book 1 and 2

[brazen edge]

Yeah true

[safe charm]

You should watch AS

Now tbh

Its good

It doesnt line up perfectly with the books but still

[brazen edge]

Yeah i’ll still watch it anyway tho

I like how the secret neighbor kids are in it

And neighbor as butcher and clown

[safe charm]

I Think AS is more canon to the games then the Books tbh but the books are still really important

[brazen edge]

Good to see both then compare the difference

[shell gull]

From what we know, it’s Mya’s Blood, as Aaron was trying to wake up Mya not realising she was dead, so he got blood on his hands, it sounds cruel but it’s the only sensible thing.

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Damn anyways reset day guest is my favorite guest design

If this is how he looks like

Ted got Sharp teeth now?

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[shell gull]

I mean it’s Mouseflashes Sketch but yeah it’s pretty accurate, except it is r the normal Guest it’s just full Forest Protector (Yes The Guest evolved into a Forest Protector).

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[shell gull]

Lol.

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This actually creeped

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Me out

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Why

[shell gull]

I mean yeah, Teds been trapped for a while, and having your body forcefully morph would disfigure you.

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Also i like Ted being Einstein genius for some reason

Because why not

[shell gull]

I love how they don’t mind Mayor and Maritza changing skin tone, but when Lucy turns white they went crazy.

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Now what if Ted will actually kill someone

In AS in season 2 or 3

[shell gull]

I mean it’s apart of his character, he’s always been smart, that’s how he tricked Nicky into his own Basement.

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Unrelated but i like the AS Peterson house a lot

It has the vibe of the pre alpha house mixed with hn2 house

[shell gull]

True.

[shell gull]

Sure.

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[safe charm]

Mm maybe time stuff

Peak

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Eh problaby like it already was i Think it was writen

Fine already

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[safe charm]

Some People think he means the pilot

But i did ask for the story of the current AS

Soooo

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Yeah but i obviously mean

The story we have now

Not the scrapped story

[torpid sinew]

because he does

it literally is just the pilot

[snow mauve]

LIAR

[torpid sinew]

it literally is just the pilot

[snow mauve]

You've been blinded

Blinded by confusion

[torpid sinew]

no

[snow mauve]

yes

[torpid sinew]

woah as pilot was made in... 2020?!?!

[snow mauve]

nahh really

I thought it released yesterday

:0

[torpid sinew]

it literally is just the pilot

[snow mauve]

How could this be!

yawn

[torpid sinew]

it literally is the pilot

[snow mauve]

even more yawn

[torpid sinew]

ok give me evidence as to why it isn't

[snow mauve]

I'm bored

:>

[torpid sinew]

so i'm right then

thanks for the confirmation

[snow mauve]

Does he know..

[torpid sinew]

you can't give evidence to back up your claim lol so i'm right

[snow mauve]

Oh shit he doesn't know..

He's cheering out of embarrassment

Oh no bro..

[torpid sinew]

nah

i'm just right

unless you have shit to back up your claim

[torpid sinew]

c'mon you can't just laugh lmao

if you're saying i'm wrong prove it

[torpid sinew]

so i'm right then

thank you for confirmation

[torpid sinew]

you're wrong lmao

you legit won't show evidence

so i'm right

[snow mauve]

I can't believe he's still doesn't know..

[torpid sinew]

that i'm right because you don't have any evidence to back it up?

i already knew that lol

[snow mauve]

damn he is still yappin about something that he doesn't know :0

[torpid sinew]

except i do know

[snow mauve]

You do!? 👀

[torpid sinew]

yes that i'm right

[snow mauve]

yeah he still doesn't know

That's ashame

[torpid sinew]

No I know that I'm right

dude if you have smth that proves me wrong just show it

[snow mauve]

B L I N D E D

[torpid sinew]

depkis do you happen to be mentally challenged

[snow mauve]

🤨

[torpid sinew]

just tell me how i'm wrong

if you can't show me then i'm right by default

[teal imp]

thats not a nice thing to ask someone

[thin wadi]

[torpid sinew]

you say this like this isn't the same community that bullied people who liked the alphas to the point where an entire word had to be banned because of it

[thin wadi]

Does it make it right?

[teal imp]

two wrongs dont make a right?

[torpid sinew]

no ig

i'd appreciate if the community wasn't just a giant toxic cesspit

[safe charm]

Wth

[thin wadi]

Just try to be respectful. If someone else doesn't get your point don't push

[teal imp]

also the word that was banned is literally about a surgery that was severely damaging

[torpid sinew]

i know

[unkempt sleet]

That doesnt mean you can be mean to someone

[teal imp]

you just become part of the problem

[unkempt sleet]

"Look guys, the community is mean. That justifies me being mean to someone else"

Yeaa no

[teal imp]

hating someone for liking new stuff isnt better than hating alpha fans for liking old stuff

you are just both being awful at that point?

[torpid sinew]

i wasn't even hating on them for liking new stuff

i was trying to tell them that the basic outline alex mentioned is the pilot

[teal imp]

didnt you call people brain dead or smth

[torpid sinew]

yeah

like weeks ago

[thin wadi]

Let's move on

[teal imp]

thats recent...

[thin wadi]

Please

[torpid sinew]

my point is this convo from today wasn't that

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[strong sparrow]

So why exactly did peterson's dad built a bunch of sewers

And then make a bird demon

And give the ritual relics to his brother

Is any of that ever explained?

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[torpid sinew]

what

[torpid sinew]

????

[unkempt sleet]

Yea didnt you know that

[strong sparrow]

Alright this guy has NOT read the books

[torpid sinew]

roger didn't make guest

what are you guys on about

[strong sparrow]

?

[safe charm]

He did

Smh

[torpid sinew]

he didn't

[teal imp]

no he did

because he is the guest

[torpid sinew]

he isn't

[teal imp]

nuh uh

[torpid sinew]

guest isn't even a human

[teal imp]

wdym

it has 2 arms and legs

seems human enough to me

[torpid sinew]

true...

ok but seriously guest isn't human

he hasn't been one since Hello Guest

[teal imp]

erm...

as you can see the guest is in unmasked here

[torpid sinew]

possession:

[teal imp]

its revealed that he is roger ted`s dad

(its been retconned to make roger look identical to ted)

[strong sparrow]

Why are you the only person who doesn't get this

Did you even

Read the books 😭😭

[torpid sinew]

i did

he's not guest

[teal imp]

this guy doesn't appreciate fine literature

[torpid sinew]

i do

i'm the world's second biggest old lore defender

[strong sparrow]

Who's the first?

[teal imp]

me

[torpid sinew]

friend of mine

[teal imp]

Im not your friend

[torpid sinew]

which is from HN2

which is new lore

[teal imp]

this guy doesnt get the expanded neighborverse

smh

[safe charm]

Roger is the guest

[torpid sinew]

no he isn't?

[ripe berry]

hello chat

[torpid sinew]

hi

[unkempt sleet]

Nuh uh

[ripe berry]

what kind of hell have you guys came up with today

[unkempt sleet]

Roger is the Guest from Hello Guest

[torpid sinew]

no

[unkempt sleet]

Hi, Join our most canon Lore talk

Wdym no

[safe charm]

Anyways mith is Quentin

[astral agate]

Whats going on.

[unkempt sleet]

No

[ripe berry]

hell

[unkempt sleet]

Quentin is Miguel

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Oops

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[strong sparrow]

"Waaahhh waaahhh Roger isn't guest" what

[astral agate]

True

[strong sparrow]

What are you fighting for

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Wrong

Its his dad

[unkempt sleet]

That was a cool scene

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[astral agate]

Who is Roger again?

[ripe berry]

"the Guest is the Guest" nuh uh

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[strong sparrow]

Who is going to give you a gold medal for lying to yourself

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[astral agate]

Is it Ted's dad

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Yes

Guest is Roger Peterson

[unkempt sleet]

Bro forgot Roger Peterson

[astral agate]

Who?

I forgot again

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[ripe berry]

The Guest Hello Guest isn't the same as the Guest Hello Neighbor 2

[teal imp]

norman darby?

[snow mauve]

MR. PEESON HAS A DAD!?

[teal imp]

/ike

[ripe berry]

nuh uh

[unkempt sleet]

NO

[strong sparrow]

"Old lore is so good" these guys not even remembering old lore

[unkempt sleet]

Miguel esposito

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Peak

[torpid sinew]

no

that was ted

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[shell gull]

Haugh, The Guest IS Teds Emotion, at least in Old Lore, in New Lore he’s a Curse.

[shell gull]

More like his evil schemer side

[gleaming crown]

Who says I want to write it as official? The canon is already confusing as it is.

[brazen edge]

Lol

[opal jackal]

Low quality

[snow mauve]

In da future

Duh

[shell gull]

Good.

[thorn rover]

I have question, in graphic novel the guest is Mr. Peterson, but this isn't canon right?

[manic dirge]

the GN is cannon. the guest isnt mr peterson.

[thorn rover]

Ok thx

[snow mauve]

The Guest is not Peterson but rather possessing his body

[lethal mantle]

I'm not spamming

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who is the red missing poster???

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what?

[opal jackal]

Oh great

I was ghost pinged

[glacial whale]

The kids from Secret Neighbor and the kid you play as in the first game along with both the neighbors kids.

[snow mauve]

WRONG

They deaaaaaaad

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[snow mauve]

Exactly

[glacial whale]

Which poster?

The picture has a bunch of the posters

I’m not sure which one is red to be honest it’s too dark

[cerulean onyx]

the one thats a pitch black silhouette

[tawny badge]

I know who everyone is

I mean this one

[manic dirge]

its prob Aaron

a little reminder of what the people in the missing posters looked like in hn1

[manic dirge]

did you not see the last message i sent

i said its prob a throwback to hn1

because the hn1 missing posters looked like that

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[thin wadi]

fake neigbor arron!

[tawny badge]

No i did not

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Its not

[snow mauve]

How do you know then

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[tawny badge]

Cus aaron is right here

[snow mauve]

Aaron went simming permanently

DUHHHH

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His missing poster

[snow mauve]

Duh

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You aren't making sense

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[snow mauve]

knowledge

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I don't understand what you are confused by

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[thin wadi]

Who's poster is missing

[tawny badge]

Prove it

[thin wadi]

We have one of nicky and Aaron and mya and every rescue squad member

Except Ivan

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Huh

[thin wadi]

Ivan doesn't have a missing poster

(Makes sense)

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[thin wadi]

He doesn't go missing

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Maybe its cus he was in the treehouse?

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[thin wadi]

Little weasel

[tawny badge]

Nah

Its different

[snow mauve]

AARON

Aw yeah

[astral agate]

Did you draw this?

[tawny badge]

Traced

Cus i was bored lol

[astral agate]

Still looks cool tho

[tawny badge]

Thx man

[manic dirge]

like i said its prob a throwback to the hm1 missing posters

hn1

[tawny badge]

Possibly

It very much could be

But

Idk that isn't a satisfying answer to me

[gleaming crown]

Looks like a missing kid from Security Breach, or better yet, Gregory.

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Indeed

[tall osprey]

i wanna know who arrom is

[shell gull]

Aaron is Mr. Petersons son.

[tall osprey]

arrom
not arron

[unkempt sleet]

aarom

not arrom

[tall osprey]

nt

this is aarom

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You guys made a big deal out of nothing

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[pale urchin]

What's a aarom

[wicked heath]

LN Janitor

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Roger

[tawny badge]

Yea sorry people have used that joke already

[tall osprey]

lean neighbor

[pale urchin]

I was being sarcastic. No need to be sorry, pal.

[tawny badge]

Yeah alright fair i suppose

[silver vine]

I remember we thought that this was gonna be the new kid class in SN

[tawny badge]

Cool pfp

[snow mauve]

HUAGGHHHH

RRRRRRRAUGH

[tawny badge]

?

[snow mauve]

HUAGH HEEEAAAAA

[tawny badge]

Uhhh... okay?

[strange lance]

That shadow kid missing poster probably means nothing at all

The toros part is legit just Aaron or Nicky's torso but black

[tawny badge]

I never said it means anything

I just thought it was interesting

[snow mauve]

Dude it's obvious who it is

HND Black Neighbor

Duh

I solved the fricken mystery

[tawny badge]

You know what? Your right

Lmao

[strange lance]

I know, you just reminded me it existed and I wanted to talk about it

[tawny badge]

Fair enough

[silver vine]

which artstyle is canon to the lore

[snow mauve]

All of them

[silver vine]

just an interesting thought I had

[snow mauve]

Inconsistencies are canon

[silver vine]

even the HN1 old art?

[astral agate]

Nikitas

Probaly

[tawny badge]

My favorite art style is definitely hnvr

I just love the attention to detail

[exotic pike]

according to the hn cartoon it is.

[glacial whale]

The painting was just an easter egg or reference of the pre alpha I’m pretty sure. I’m not sure what other old art there were

[glacial whale]

It’s perfect

[tawny badge]

If were going of the as then pretty much every other tinybuild game is conon in hn too

[exotic pike]

There was a cupboard.

[ripe berry]

and a bull mug

[ripe berry]

Fanmade Raven Brooks Description - Started as a small port town on the Quiet Flood River Banks in the 1930s, this town known for Crows, Storms, and Missing Person's Cases has certaintly has itself a interesting history, with rumors of Cults based off the Storms and Crows, claims of "Forest Protectors", a half-man half-bird creature that has a taste for blood, along with what some theorize to be the leader of the Forest Protectors, the "Raven Man", talk of Ancient Curses placed on the land, and a world-famous Candy Corporation shut down after a tragic incident at one of their parks, we advise people to avoid this town at all costs

[tawny badge]

I quite like this

Its cool

[shell gull]

Alright, New Lore RB Timeline (From what we know, and Theories that are highly possible): Pre-RB 100+ Years ago, Ancient Cult Grounds (Guest possibly banished), WW2 ends, Old Port is created as a safe ground, gets expanded into Old Town, RB has formally formed, Early Buildings such as the Church and Mayak are made, 1950s, Founders Manor is made deep in the Woods, People settle in RB more, 1960s, Founders Manor changed into Town Museum, 1970s, RB Schools built Halloween Kids Incident, Museum Donations, 1980s, Museum abandoned after bad condition, Friendly Court is made across the River, 1990s, Cult schemes plans, Early 2000s Investors focus on RB, Attempts to save Museum fail, Investors take Items from Museum and Pull the Fundraising, Museum becomes Cult Lair, Missing Incidents hit, Peterson Case becomes well known, The Guest is summoned, Cult abandoned Museum and Keys are stolen, Ted runs away, Storm hits.

[tawny badge]

wait whats that about a port? i thought raven brooks only really became a town when the golden apple factory was built

how could friendly court be made in the 90s if roger and adelle lived on that street in the 50s?

[tawny badge]

it was stated that friendly court was one of the first steets built in RB

the museum looks more like a Victorian building from the 1800s

[tawny badge]

also HN2 and presumably the big storm takes place in 1997

[tawny badge]

yeah sorry if this sounded sarcastic, i just haven't heard of RB having a port before

mr peterson was born in 1945 which means RB was built before or during WW2 since mr peterson was born and raised in 910 friendly court

and by then the town must have been big enough for roger and adelle to hear about the storms from... wherever they were

you know what? everything i said was unnecessary so my apologies, i do really like your theory tho

[blazing turtle]

тут есть Русские?

[young kayak]

hello ! we have a #russian-chat 🙂

[blazing turtle]

Thank you

[ripe berry]

this is why I go with late 1930s

it gives time for the town of Raven Brooks to become big enough that, as shown by the AS Episode 7 Teasers calling it the Raven Brooks County Jail, to have the whole county named after the town (and County Jails are named by County not by Town that's why that means there's a Raven Brooks County)

and allow for Friendly Court to reasonably exist by the time Mr. Peterson is a kid

Since it seems the AS will at least try to adapt Ted's Childhood from the books

[shell gull]

No Early 2000s

[shell gull]

Yeah no that’s Old Lore, New Lore is basically the New Pipeline Lore.

[tawny badge]

And where exactly did this 'new lore' lore from?

[unkempt sleet]

nowhere

[tawny badge]

Hello neighbor 1 is confirmed to take place in 1996 and nicky gets tapped for a few months which means he either escapes later in the same year or 1997, and we know from HNVR the the police come the same day which means HN2 cannot be any later than 1997

[tawny badge]

Exactly

[unkempt sleet]

People likes to believe what they want to believe

[tawny badge]

Yea

For some reason people are way to eager to throw out the 'old' lore instead of making it connect

[shell gull]

Yeah, the Old Lore (Books, Games except HN2 and New SN, Novels), yeah sorry, Alex confirmed, they started a New Lore, which is built off of AS.

[shell gull]

Because it doesn’t

[tawny badge]

He said the AS was a separate canon

[spark tulip]

HN2 takes place in 1996.

[tawny badge]

Yeah

[shell gull]

HNVR ended with Aaron getting dragged into The Nest, HN2 starts with Aaron in it, they swapped the Lore, that’s why Old HN2 Aaron isn’t actually there, in AS HN2 takes place in the 2000s, non of it really connects that’s the issue.

[unkempt sleet]

it ended with Aaron getting dragged

Who dragged it, or where he was dragged is left in the air

and it can easily be Peterson

[tawny badge]

Tinybuild makes games, why would the invalidate all their hn games for something that isn't even a game

[tawny badge]

No Aaron does not get dragged to the nest

Thats a massive presumption

[shell gull]

The denial, they purposely used the Void background.

[tawny badge]

He likely was pulled away by mr peterson

[tawny badge]

You have to have proof my guy

[spark tulip]

The whole Aaron section had the void background.

[tawny badge]

Yes

Possibly

[tawny badge]

Lets not get the AS and game lore mixed up

They can both be canon separately at the same time

[unkempt sleet]

Game only timeline works as a charm

And dont say HN2 doesnt fit because it does

[tawny badge]

True true

[shell gull]

“Alright let’s use the Void background that we’ve been purposely using to show The Nest, but he wasn’t actually dragged into The Nest” I mean literally RD and GN2 Confirm that he was dragged into The Nest, literally he isn’t there, The Guests whole stitch was trapping people in The Nest, he even tries the same thing with Regina, Mouse already explained it well enough, it could very well have been Ted, but that creates an inconsistency, since when could Ted drag people into The Nest and then pull them out, like I said with Regina, Guest manipulates Regina to get to her Sister, after attempt tries to drag Regina into The Nest, Guest manipulates Aaron to get to Ted, after attempt does drag Aaron into The Nest, I mean A1.5 also confirms it (Though doesn’t count really since it’s an Alpha, but since HN2s Alphas we’re to explain HN2s Old Story and RD in symbolism you can take that in), who was locked away behind the Door, Guest Kid, who symbolises Guest Kid, Aaron, everyone else was also symbolism of the same People trapped in RD, Alien Kid=Pipers Mom
Pumpkin Kid=Enzo
Ted was also trapped, since technically he is after GN2, all victims of The Guest, but I guess this can’t be confirmed without an actual Model dragging Aaron even though it’s pretty clear, also to your question of proof, you can see the Void Storm in the background, A.K.A. The Nest.

Also to the VR connects to HN2, it kinda doesn’t, well technically it could since we don’t know what happened after Quentin got knocked out, if Ted dragged Aaron for some reason after just getting attached to The Guest, we see in the Credits Ted running away from the Cops at his house, like it would be in Old HN2 Story, in HN2, he runs off after knocking Quentin out.

[tawny badge]

What makes you believe that the void is the nest??

[unkempt sleet]

Guest World file name or something

[tawny badge]

Ah okay

[shell gull]

It’s confirmed in the File Names, you want more proof, how did Regina get into The Nest, through Weird Gateways, how do the Kids get in the Void, weird Gateways, what’s filled in The Nest, stuff related to Ted, what’s filled in the Void, stuff related to Ted.

[unkempt sleet]

Regina went to the Nest in her sleep

the Rescue Squad went to the Nest after they got knocked out by the gas

[tawny badge]

Weird gateways is a really loose term

[shell gull]

Yeah IK but we also see in GN2 Gateways leading into The Nest.

[shell gull]

True.

[unkempt sleet]

And then we see her wake up in there without anything about the Nest

[shell gull]

Well I mean, the Gateways are closets, doors and etc, in GN2 and RD even holes are Gateways.

[unkempt sleet]

So maybeee
Potentiallyy
Nest just exists in Dreams and is not a physical location

[tawny badge]

I suppose so

[shell gull]

I mean, RD shows The Nest in RB.

[unkempt sleet]

What

No?

[tawny badge]

When?

[shell gull]

The start of the book when the Hole collapsed and the Construction workers got dragged by The Guest, they got dragged into The Nest, there’s a hole in RB of The Nest, that’s why The Guest blocked it off.

[tawny badge]

Aaron could be in the nest (not physically)

[unkempt sleet]

Workers fall into the Hole

They dont get dragged

[tawny badge]

How do you know its a nest and not just the tunnels that they were talking about collapsing

[shell gull]

One saw the other scream for help, and then the other trip and fell, the one screaming was getting Dragged by something.

[shell gull]

Because they collapsed 30+ Years prior.

[tawny badge]

Or slipping

[shell gull]

I have to go but this was fun

👋

[tawny badge]

Likely not all of it

[unkempt sleet]

I dont remember the scream for help

[tawny badge]

Aright cya

[tawny badge]

You are saying the old lore is no longer canon yet you still try to use it as proof?

The books

[unkempt sleet]

I dont think Nest is in Reset day

[tawny badge]

Yea neither

[unkempt sleet]

i still think Nest is not a physical place and is a place that exists in Dreams, by Guest's existence maybe

[shell gull]

“Blistering Air” (The Nest is super hot from how much it’s grown) “It grabs hold of Bruce and drags him in” (Something grabbed Bruce)

[shell gull]

No just pointing out inconsistencies.

Just wanted to get this out before I actually leave

👋

[unkempt sleet]

Yea no i looked again, thats true

But that feels like Guest himself (Blistering Air) or idk

i still dont think it's the Nest in Reset Day

[shell gull]

Well we know if E.O.M. Is true (Ik this theory keeps coming up but it works really well), that the more Ted emotion gets worse the more stronger The Nest and Guest is, but yeah it could just be The Guest himself.

Anyways I actually have to go sorry.

[tawny badge]

Ima eat breakfast

Ttyl

[tawny badge]

I like the theory that the guest get stronger but the nest? I don't think that makes sense

[unkempt sleet]

Hi Micheal

[ripe berry]

hello

[tawny badge]

Yo

Hows it going

[ripe berry]

I mean sorry to try to defend this but we've seen it the other way around with the other entity of manifestation known as the Thing

the Final Bossfight Room gets smaller as Nicky overcomes his fear (aka the emotion the Thing is made from), and the Final Bossfight Room is very clearly a Fear Room due to the same background being used

(or well Nicky grows because that's easier to do gameplay-wise)

[unkempt sleet]

Also Final Bossfight room is still in Nicky's head

[unkempt sleet]

Like the Nest being not a physical location...

[ripe berry]

(but it can really work either way)

[tawny badge]

I agree with the guest part but im just not too sure about the nest getting stronger

[ripe berry]

also doesn't the Guest literally bring objects into the Nest in GN2

[unkempt sleet]

When

[ripe berry]

or is implied to

[unkempt sleet]

I feel like its just objects that exists in Nest

[ripe berry]

"taking what you don't deserve" - The Guest and then you see Objects strewn throughout the nest

[tawny badge]

I might be dumb for asking but what does GN2 stand for?

[unkempt sleet]

Graphic Novel 2

[tawny badge]

Ohhh nvm

[unkempt sleet]

Raven Brooks Disaster

[ripe berry]

Graphic Novel 2, also known as the Raven Brooks Disaster

[tawny badge]

Cool thx

[ripe berry]

still I'm ok with the Nest not being a physical place and I feel like Sh1mpnut's evidence being Reset Day is kinda weak

since doesn't HE establish those to be time portals, not portals to alternate dimensions?

[unkempt sleet]

HE...

[ripe berry]

or imply it

[unkempt sleet]

Then HE has fricking pocket dimensions

[ripe berry]

Hello Engineer, the problem child of HN Lore

[unkempt sleet]

HE has a completely different storyline than all of the games

[shell gull]

Well yeah because The Thing is a Mental Manifestation, while The Guest is a Physical Manifestation.

[tawny badge]

I think hello engineer is like secret neighbor

[unkempt sleet]

Nah

[ripe berry]

it helps explain the Time Loop stuff from Reset Day but at the same time it almost doesn't fit in a timeline

[tawny badge]

Its not really canon

[shell gull]

Thing World in turn is Mental, while Guest World/Nest is Physical.

[shell gull]

Hello Engineer is messy.

[ripe berry]

most do SN - HE - HNVR which means the Rescue Squad are the most inconsistent characters in existence

[unkempt sleet]

I wish😔

[ripe berry]

HE - SN - HNVR makes more sense but doesn't work with the 4th wall break HNVR hint in the credits

[unkempt sleet]

HE is fun but its absolutely a mess lore wise

[shell gull]

We see The Nest change depending on Teds Emotion, when he’s Sad and Depressed and more Inclosed The Nest appears as a Void, while when he’s after Vengeance and Angry it turns Crimson Red.

[ripe berry]

and the fact Sandbox Mode implies the Rescue Squad to already exist by this point

[unkempt sleet]

What

[tawny badge]

I think hnvr is just a more detailed version of sn

[ripe berry]

actually we know exactly what SN is

[unkempt sleet]

A plan..

[shell gull]

Ted being soulless in VR The Nest is a Void, Ted angered in GN2 The Nest blood red.

[ripe berry]

it's the planning phase mixed with imagination

[tawny badge]

Oh ok

[unkempt sleet]

Still what

[shell gull]

SN in Old Lore is just Recuse Squad Imagination as they have fear of breaking in, Via why the Neighbor is a Thing Manifestation in SN.

See Imagination so Mental.

[tawny badge]

And where in the game does it say ted is soulless?

[unkempt sleet]

Nowhere

[ripe berry]

so, while Hello Engineer helps establish things that explains other parts of the HN Lore, it ultimately doesn't work too well in a timeline

[shell gull]

No it’s just after Act 1, he becomes Inclosed and stays in his house, HNHS we see him get more sad overtime.

[ripe berry]

and it doesn't help we can't fix this by moving HE after HNVR and ignoring the 4th wall break

[shell gull]

I forgot about the 4th Wall Break.

[ripe berry]

since Ted is on the run from the cops by the end of HNVR

and he likely goes to the Museum like in HN2

so then why is he at the GAAP

and why are there still Nicky Missing Posters

and why is there no hint of Nicky

[shell gull]

But in HN2 he runs off after knocking out Quentin, so yeah they aren’t connected.

[unkempt sleet]

To create a time shnenigan to get his family back or something idk

[ripe berry]

HE just doesn't fit cleanly no matter where you place it

[unkempt sleet]

[shell gull]

Mouse explained it’s him working on Early Time Loops.

[ripe berry]

oh yeah, forgot to mention Mr. Apple, the timeline presented by HNVR and HN2 doesn't work together

HN2 - Ted runs off AT NIGHT

[shell gull]

Via Sandbox.

[ripe berry]

HNVR - based off lighting of the scenes it's DAYTIME

[shell gull]

HN1 and VR he runs off at the Afternoon

/Day

[tawny badge]

And hes in a car

[ripe berry]

oh and let's use the clocks in HN1 for further evidence

[unkempt sleet]

HN1?

[tawny badge]

Aye?

[ripe berry]

in HN1 Act 2 the Clock is at 9:00

the clocks are accurate as all the circular clocks in Act 1 are 3:30

[unkempt sleet]

Noo not the time
I hate working with time

[shell gull]

We’ve known HN2 doesn’t connect, I mean different Guest Lore, Different Cult Lore, One is supposed to connect with AS (While yes HN2 Dates don’t line up, that’s because the Devs haven’t bothered to change them just like many other issues in the Game, like Gerda not doing the right Task spot).

[ripe berry]

and Act 3 is 6:15 according to the circular clocks

[shell gull]

Well technically it’s any time depending on the Game, but according to Lore it would’ve been the Day/Afternoon

[ripe berry]

this means Nicky escapes at the latest at 9:00 PM

[shell gull]

Since Nicky escaped after R.S.

And the Cops would’ve already been at Teds by the Night.

[tawny badge]

Or am

[shell gull]

Since Old HN2 starts at Night the same day.

[ripe berry]

and yet it takes another 5 hours for the cops to arrive and the kids to throw a party for saving Nicky in a Timeline with HN2?

and yet the HNVR Ending Images background is bright indicating it to be DAYTIME

[unkempt sleet]

Yea no after the time came into picture i couldnt keep up

[shell gull]

Not to mention that if VR connects with HN2 Ted has the ability to just drag Aaron into The Nest and take him out.

[ripe berry]

so the Rescue Squad escape at 9:00 AM

[ripe berry]

and HN2 is the only game other then HN1 and HNHS to give us times so you can't manipulate anything

[tawny badge]

I would say thats an artistic choice so you can actually see

[ripe berry]

and then over 12 hours later the cops arrive

[ripe berry]

they could easily do dark background light foreground

[unkempt sleet]

Does anyone have all the HNVR credit images

[shell gull]

I still find it funny that The Guests whole stitch is dragging People, but yet we still couldn’t agree upon who the hell dragged Aaron into The Nest.

[tawny badge]

True but then it wouldn't match the prior ones

[tawny badge]

Because the "proof" is circumstantial at best

[unkempt sleet]

I need to make a list of all the times and years that gets shown in games because im not able to keep them in my head...

[shell gull]

Still, the character known for dragging People and taking them to The Nest, still has to be circumstantial to who dragged Aaron into The Nest.

[ripe berry]

and them making them match is indicative of it being the same time of day

[tawny badge]

Understandable

[tawny badge]

I don't think thats how you use that word

[tawny badge]

Also aaron isn't in the nest

Physically or mentally

He is still sane in the hn2 ending

[shell gull]

That’s because HN2 doesn’t connect with VR.

[tawny badge]

It does

[shell gull]

He was trapped into The Nest physically.

[shell gull]

Oh god.

[tawny badge]

You still haven't given solid proof

[shell gull]

Right so The Guest went from Manifestation to Curse that became Cult Leader in less than a Week.

The consistency.

[unkempt sleet]

He's an urban legend

[tawny badge]

True

[shell gull]

“Ancient Curse”

[tawny badge]

He could be all of those at the same time

[tawny badge]

Where does it say that

[shell gull]

Right so Ted appears to not be Sleep Deprived in HN2 like in Old HN2.

[unkempt sleet]

Ancient Curse
Oh like maybe the nightmare 3 was about Forest Protectors

and not Guest

[shell gull]

Nightmare 3 Achievement.

[tawny badge]

Oh cool

[shell gull]

Crow Statue symbolizes The Guest.

[unkempt sleet]

No?

[tawny badge]

No

[unkempt sleet]

Come on The Statue symbolizes the Cult

They're fueled by greed

Golden Apple coins

Thats so obvious

[tawny badge]

It is straight up a cultist

[unkempt sleet]

And also makes the current Hn2 ending symbolize how Cult messed up Theodore's life

[tawny badge]

Indubitable

[unkempt sleet]

And in LayoutV2 Statue appears in Quentins hallucination as he's dragged by cultist irl

You cant still tell me that Statue represents Guest

[shell gull]

Ok, he’s still a Curse, they used one of the Cult Curses to summons him, presumably the Item the Investors took.

[ripe berry]

here's a list for you (minus HN2 as I haven't properly looked at all the times but I remember the Intro times clearly):
25/03/97 - the Milk Carton in HN1 is best used
30/03/97 - the Milk Carton in HN1 is best before
3:30 - Act 1's time according to Ted's Clocks
9:00 - Act 2's time according to Ted's Clocks
6:15 - Act 3's time according to Ted's Clocks
Daytime - when Act 1 Occurs
Morning - Apartments Scene in Act 3
Afternoon - Act 3 before falling asleep/ending cutscene
Nighttime - Act 3's time in the cutscene
2017 - the Year Nikita gave Act 3
12:00 - the time each of the first four stages in HNHS ends
20 Days before the Car Crash - HNHS Launch Trailer Starts (latest)
March 20th - HNHS Stage 1
Morning - HNHS Launch Trailer's ToD for the Car Crash
March 30th - HNHS Stage 2
Afternoon - time of Day Ted shows up to the Hospital in HNHS Launch Trailer
April 1st - HNHS Stage 3
May 3rd - HNHS Stages 4-5
Afternoon - when Ted buries Mya in HNHS Ending
Nighttime - when the kids in SN make the plan to save Nicky
Nighttime - when HE occurs
Ivan's Birthday - happens during the time jump before Sandbox Mode in HE

[unkempt sleet]

Holy shit

Thank yoy

[ripe berry]

this should help you for the most part

oh and HN2 Barn Tutorial occurs between 22:00 (10 PM) to like 2 AM iirc

or was it 12 AM the Barn Tutorial Ends at

[unkempt sleet]

And how do you know Cult summoned him

Other than the removed tape audio

[ripe berry]

it was 12 AM

meaning no matter how you slice it, using the times provided to us, there's at the very least 5 hour gap between HNVR's Ending and the Cops showing up

despite it being implied by HNVR to be instant

or almost instant

[unkempt sleet]

tbh the HNVR credits doesnt need to happen instantly

[shell gull]

Still a Curse, and at the same time, The Guest wasn’t summoned in Old Lore he was just Leaked into the real world, also womp womp HN2 not Old Lore so doesn’t connect to VR (We’ve known this for Months):

[ripe berry]

there's obviously gotta be some gap of time, but I doubt it took 5 whole hours at the very least

[ripe berry]

Nicky Escapes at 9:00 AM/PM, this means the Credits are already underway at the time of Act 2

[shell gull]

The Guest being summoned doesn’t line up with VR at all, since we would’ve seen him in a Cult Cloak (Even if the Model wasn’t made yet it doesn’t fit).

New Lore: Guest is Curse

Old Lore: Guest is Teds Manifestation

[ripe berry]

and you're telling me the credits would just skip 5 hours at the very least

[strange lance]

Whats goin on hello lorebors

[shell gull]

Yo Mouse

[strange lance]

Yo

[shell gull]

The denial Time Loop hit again

[ripe berry]

'ello

[strange lance]

Bro got scared

[ripe berry]

also don't you place HN2 entirely after Act 2, or am I misremembering

because if you do that, you add nearly 2 whole days between HNVR Ending and HN2 to fit the DLCs

[shell gull]

Me when HN2 connect with Old Lore comes up again:

[strange lance]

what's the argument this time

I'm having trouble understanding

[tawny badge]

Thats understandable

[unkempt sleet]

Well that would work if you put just the part where Quentin sees Theodore after Act 2 while DLC's and Quentins arrival would be before or during Act 2

[shell gull]

Oh shit it’s the manifestation monst- I mean cur- I mean the uhh…the goo- oh what the f-

[tawny badge]

Right well this conversation has devolved

Ima go

Cya guys

[unkempt sleet]

Bye

[strange lance]

rescue squad is captured, Aaron saves rescue squad and Nicky, Aaron is taken away by the guest, Nicky and rescue squad escape (act 2) a bit later they call the cops and police arrives happens, later on og hn2 fully happens

it's kinda simple

[ripe berry]

it's pretty obvious HN1+HNVR and HN2 can't be the same timeline due to the time frames between stuff, just HN1 and HN2? sure, just HNVR and HN2? Pushing it but you could probably pull out some shit to make it work

[unkempt sleet]

I just need time..

[shell gull]

“Pull out shit to make it work”

Ted has the ability to drag Aaron into The Nest and bring him back out, The Guest became Cult Leader in the span of a Day and also somehow simultaneously got Summoned.

[strange lance]

if you're trying to connect hn1, hnvr, AS and hn2 into a consistent timeline without changing stuff that's kinda like impossible lmao

if that is what you are indeed trying to do

[ripe berry]

he's not connecting AS

only the HN Games

[unkempt sleet]

Game only timeline is what im about

[strange lance]

I see

[ripe berry]

this is why I'm trying to argue against it using only the games

[astral agate]

Hello neighbors

What are we discussing

[ripe berry]

R U N .

basically trying to debunk a game only timeline with HN2 included in it is what's going on rn

[astral agate]

Cool

[strange lance]

I don't think theres enough stuff in hn2 to debunk or prove anything since barely anything happens in it

you kinda just gotta make assumptions

The only thing I can think of is that the hn2 basement removed any hint of the walled off hn1 basement as seen in hnvr, or the hnvr furnace basement

so now it's just a normal basement

[ripe berry]

I'm gathering images of the HNVR Credits since Mr. Apple asked for them, but since I don't think it'll let me send all the images in one I'm only sending the ones of the Escape in this message, I'll send a second message with the rest of the images

[strange lance]

I have them all

[ripe berry]

woops forgot a image

[astral agate]

You forgot the one with keith and leslie

[ripe berry]

the other images

[ripe berry]

I was getting there

I started with the escape scenes

[strange lance]

such an awesome scene

[ripe berry]

oh, also we can see the HNVR Extensions aswell, which are kinda not on the house in the HN2 Intro, which should in your timeline take place mere moments before this

[unkempt sleet]

im sorry but any extensions to the Peterson House is automatically imagination to me

[safe charm]

In AS it problaby isnt

Tbh

[unkempt sleet]

AS is an another subject

Which is completely unrelated to what we're talking about

[astral agate]

Hmm this confused me.

If that scene with keith and leslie

[safe charm]

I dont think a only game timeline can work

[astral agate]

Supposed to be AS ep 6 ending?

[safe charm]

At this point in time

[unkempt sleet]

Just wait

[ripe berry]

this is why I use timeframes, since times are one of the few concrete things that we can use

[safe charm]

So what is AS not canon now is it just the games

Im confused

[unkempt sleet]

Guestyyy you know what my answer is gonna be

[strange lance]

AS is canon to hn2 even if it's incredibly inconsistent

AS and hn2 are not canon to anything else because it literally cannot work.

it is that simple

[ripe berry]

Act 2's Circular Clocks places it at 9 AM/PM (and the clocks are reliable since all the circular clocks in Act 1 read 3:30, and all the circular clocks in Act 3 (except for the ones in the fear rooms) read 6:15), HN2 Barn Tutorial ends at 12 AM

[strange lance]

theres no use is trying to connect them because all you'll be met with is contradictions and issues

[safe charm]

But i want hn2 to be canon?

With the rest of the games

[strange lance]

it is canon

to the AS!

[safe charm]

That doesnt do it for me

[unkempt sleet]

yea no i think im gonna leave this conversation

Bye

[strange lance]

and since it's canon to the AS, it can't be canon to anything else (since the AS cannot work with anything else)

so oh well

you got the beta

that's the closest you'll get

[safe charm]

Gonna be completely honest i Think hn2 needs a soft rewrite it litterafy feels non canon

To anything

They need to decide what its gonna follow and how its gonna follow it

[ripe berry]

bye

[safe charm]

Im starting to wonder if hn2 even is AS lore it just feels non canon

To me currently like it has its own story

[strange lance]

this is what happens when you don't plan things out!

it's obvious hn2 and it's dlcs were not made with the intent of connecting to some cartoon, so when hn2 does try to connect to the cartoon you are met with contradictions and inconsistencies

such a shame really

[safe charm]

Like alex Said things like

[strange lance]

they should have planned it out

[safe charm]

When There is no police arrive

In hn2?

[safe charm]

The stream description thats writen by alex when patch 3 dropped Said hn2 picks up directly after hn1

And the police show up to mr Peterson house

So how?

[strange lance]

that literally DOESN'T happen

😭

[safe charm]

Im so confused

So was the communication between eerie guest and alex and the AS writers not that good?

Feels like their on different pages

[strange lance]

yes that is exactly what happened

[ripe berry]

HN2 not being in the same timeline as other games evidence:

• Act 2 is at 9 AM/PM, and HNVR implies the cops to show up like maybe a hour later by not making the background any darker when the cops arrive, and yet in HN2 the cops don't arrive until after 12 AM
• the Basements in HN1/HNVR don't have any hint of existence in HN2
• No hint of the pinboard in HNVR in HN2
• HN2 Team is working closely with AS, meaning they aren't working with the games in mind
• No hint of Guest being ancient curse in SN/HE/HNVR but instead being a manifestation
• (Placeholder until I can get more points to use)

[safe charm]

What is even happening

Anymore

[strange lance]

Reminder that hnvr was being developed back during the hn2 alphas back when it was the og story

also like the only new story thing in hnvr is the coins, which are collectibles only

and serve no story purpose

[ripe berry]

oh and let's not forget

[safe charm]

Also ep6 is Said to be hnvr but it litteraly isnt

Smh

[ripe berry]

the HNVR Coins are the exact opposite of the AS Coins in what they're implied to be

AS Coins are implied to give people luck

as losing them causes your death

while HNVR coins are literally called Unlucky Coins