#lore-discussion

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quaint vault
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Do you think they'll change the house in the halloween update?

snow mauve
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For secret neighbor

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Or hello neighbor 2?

quaint vault
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SN

snow mauve
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I don't think so

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But it seems like

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They're adding just some Halloween decorations

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And replacing assets by using hello neighbor 2 assets

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There could be some changes inside the houses (maybe)

quaint vault
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Is HN VR part of the universe as well?

snow mauve
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No

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Hello neighbor vr is part of the books lore

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(Old lore)

quaint vault
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What about HE

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?

snow mauve
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Hello engineer is also part of the books lore too

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And maybe the new lore too

strange lance
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Everything but HN2 is old lore

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Which is really sad

snow mauve
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SN may also be part of the new lore

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Due to questionable characters from hn2

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Plus a potential hello neighbor 1 remake

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That might be the new lore

strange lance
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Eh. Not really. Quentin and Otto aren't real. It's still their imagination, and it's still about saving Nicky and Aaron. Legit nothing changed lol Alex doesn't know what he's ever talking about

snow mauve
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"Changing"

strange lance
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Also he wanted it to connect to the AS right

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Well guess what Alex

quaint vault
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Will we get an HN remake as part of New Lore

snow mauve
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But a remake MAYBE happening

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After hello neighbor 2 is done with their updates

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And if the game is fully done and polished

strange lance
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The rescue squad don't meet Quentin until AFTER they save nicky in the AS so why is he already "with them" in SN which is before they save Nicky. They didn't change when SN takes place so it's literally just a massive flaw because once again

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It does not matter

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Quentin being it in changes nothing

snow mauve
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Imagine we see the kids meet Quentin

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In ep6

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Of AS

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lmao

strange lance
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That would be really funny

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I don't wanna hear his voice

quaint vault
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But Quentin didn't come to Raven Brooks until Nicky was found

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Although...

snow mauve
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That is correct

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He wasn't there until Nicky already got found

hollow parrot
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What’s as?

snow mauve
quaint vault
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But when Quentin drives past the Neighbors house Mr. Peterson is only just locking up Aaron

strange lance
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Yeah hn2 is weird!

hollow parrot
strange lance
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It's very inconsistent with itself and the AS

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Don't pay attention to them

quaint vault
snow mauve
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Here's the Playlist

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For all the episodes so far

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We will be getting episode 5 soon

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This Saturday

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Then next week we will get Episode 6

quaint vault
snow mauve
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Needed to hide Aaron away

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Before anyone else sees him with his son

hollow parrot
snow mauve
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While Quentin is the only person who witness it

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Aaron did infact try to escape

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After Nicky escaped

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But of course failed as his father caught him

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And dragging him back

quaint vault
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Interesting

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Do you think we will see Aaron help Nicky in Episode 6?

snow mauve
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No

strange lance
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No not at all

snow mauve
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In episode 6 we're only going to aee

strange lance
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I don't think aaron will ever appear

snow mauve
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Nicky's friends

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Saving him

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That's all

quaint vault
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So HN Act 2 is not going to be part of the story at all?

strange lance
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Hn act 2 like didn't actually happen

snow mauve
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But in a different story

strange lance
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The only things that happend were aaron freeing Nicky and Nicky leaving through the cellar door

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We see Aaron's pov of act 2 intro in hnvr's ending

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And what actually happened

snow mauve
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At least for the books lore

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But in AS

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It's going to be different

quaint vault
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So AS Episode 6 will combine Act 2 and SN?

snow mauve
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Yes

strange lance
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The rescue squad escapes, Nicky escapes, cops arrive happens, ted flees to museum with no aaron. Original hn2 commence

snow mauve
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But in a different story

strange lance
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Quentin arrives shortly after that

snow mauve
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Like I said

quaint vault
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Quentin arrives in the night before the cops get to Peterson's house though

snow mauve
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Yep

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That is correct

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Quentin arrives at night

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Then Ted quickly steals his camera

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And knocks him out

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Then immediately hides somewhere else

quaint vault
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So has Nicky already escaped?

snow mauve
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(The Museum)

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Yes

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Hello neighbor 2 takes place AFTER Nicky escaped

quaint vault
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But before they call the police

snow mauve
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Yep

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Which the police arrived in the morning

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Just investigating Mr. Peterson's house and just noticed that he's gone

quaint vault
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Why is Officer Leslie not in the full version of HN2?

snow mauve
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He is

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In the game

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You can see him in your monitors in the beginner of the game

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Like you'll see him leave Officer Keith (his partner)

quaint vault
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Oh!

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I missed that when I played it

hollow parrot
snow mauve
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His short nickname

quaint vault
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Theodore Peterson/The Neighbor

hollow parrot
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Oh

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Are y’all talking bout the ending of hn2?

snow mauve
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No

hollow parrot
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O

snow mauve
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But we are talking about hello neighbor 2

hollow parrot
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Wait but at the ending who knocked out the person we play as

snow mauve
hollow parrot
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O

snow mauve
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It was revealed

quaint vault
snow mauve
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In this video

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The cutscene for Hello neighbor 2's upcoming update

hollow parrot
snow mauve
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It showed us what happened

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After the ending

quaint vault
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Why is the citizens page of The Raven Brooks Banner not finished?

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Do they plan on adding it?

snow mauve
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It seems like it yeah

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Or unless that's just intentional

hollow parrot
snow mauve
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Alright

quaint vault
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In the final news article it says "This morning, our colleague from Raven Brooks Banner was reported missing" this makes it seem like someone else was working there

snow mauve
hollow parrot
quaint vault
snow mauve
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Here's the password

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That you need to type

quaint vault
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The password is: HATCHERYWINGATE

hollow parrot
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Thanks I’ll read that

strange lance
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Then there was just mj

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And then they all left?

quaint vault
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mj?

snow mauve
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Missing Journalist

strange lance
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Missing journalist

quaint vault
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Oh

strange lance
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Ok so where did the other reporters go

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They didn't go missing it's just mj

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Did they really just dip out

snow mauve
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Simming

hollow parrot
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Wait what is the connection wit ravens and Ted

snow mauve
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That's haunting him

strange lance
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I think he's talking about the actual birds

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Not the guest

snow mauve
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Ohhhhh

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My bad

hollow parrot
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Yeah the birds

snow mauve
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Haha

strange lance
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He likes birds

snow mauve
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Some of them aren't

strange lance
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So he collects them

snow mauve
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Some do of course

quaint vault
snow mauve
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Yea

strange lance
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Yes

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He really likes birds

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Even dead ones

snow mauve
# snow mauve Yea

I think he did that because there might be a coin inside of that crow

strange lance
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It's why he has that dead chicken

snow mauve
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Which honestly it makes sense in my opinion

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To why he beat the shit out of him

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In the first place

hollow parrot
strange lance
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Yes

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In episode 4

snow mauve
strange lance
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He just has one for some reason

snow mauve
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Which I thought you were going to watch

quaint vault
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What is the significance of the coins?

hollow parrot
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O I’m on ep 3 rn

snow mauve
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Which is why each victims in AS

hollow parrot
snow mauve
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Gets killed

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When having one

quaint vault
snow mauve
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Plus the reason why Ted is collecting of them for some purpose

snow mauve
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Plus you can see some coins in hello neighbor 2

quaint vault
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In the underground bunker

snow mauve
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In the museum

quaint vault
snow mauve
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Yep

snow mauve
hollow parrot
snow mauve
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Well the coins are meant to be just bad luck

quaint vault
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I didn't know about one in a museum?

snow mauve
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Scattered around

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Hiddenly

quaint vault
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Ravens or coins?

hollow parrot
snow mauve
quaint vault
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Huh, I never noticed them

snow mauve
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There's also this

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In the Mayor's house

quaint vault
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That's the same thing that's on the gravestone in AS

snow mauve
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Correct

quaint vault
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Who was buried there?

snow mauve
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I believe it was Ted

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Which the bag he have in ep3

hollow parrot
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Wait

snow mauve
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Maybe the coins

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He collected

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Which I believe he's trying to hide them

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Originally

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But failed because Leslie showed up

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Read what I said

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I'm not saying Ted

hollow parrot
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I js saw that

quaint vault
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He was trying to bury the coins

snow mauve
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Yep

quaint vault
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Why was the raven on the gravestone then?

snow mauve
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Not quite sure

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Maybe Ted put it there or maybe it was already like that

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Oh wait

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Actually

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Maybe Ted

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Was collecting all the coins

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Out of the gravestone

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Okay that makes sense now

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Because in episode 3

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The bag he bring was empty

quaint vault
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Buried by the cultists?

snow mauve
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Yes

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Okay now that makes perfect sense now

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Damn i just realized how wrong I am

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It was the opposite

quaint vault
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Are the birds all over town ravens or crows?

snow mauve
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Both i guess

quaint vault
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I would assume ravens because of the name but the Guest is a crow

snow mauve
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I'm pretty sure the guest

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Is a raven

quaint vault
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Oh

snow mauve
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As some citizens named him

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The Raven Man"

quaint vault
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The Raven Man

snow mauve
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Yep

quaint vault
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That was in GN #2 right?

snow mauve
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Yes

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But also one of the books

quaint vault
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Are the Forest Protectors Ravens?

snow mauve
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Yeah I guess

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But the town rather refers to them as "crows"

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While they're meant to be ravens

quaint vault
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Is the Man in The Hat canon?

hollow parrot
snow mauve
snow mauve
quaint vault
quaint vault
snow mauve
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I don't think so

quaint vault
snow mauve
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I also was thinking the same

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When I read about it

quaint vault
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Who is writing the story in nog simming?

bleak spear
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nog simming isnt canon

hollow parrot
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Then y make it?

thin wadi
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Why make anything?

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It was for fun I believe

rare grove
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@mention

crude dew
reef orbit
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Wait whaz

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They wrote a whole story?

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When

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And how did I miss it

reef orbit
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Why not make it canon

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Could've easily done that

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Wait how old is it?

strange lance
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The story was for old hn2

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They story it's self wasn't canon but the characters personality and traits were

silver vine
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no no, Ozvard confirmed that SN is still according to the canon, and Quentin's appearance in SN does have some serious lore implication

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yes, and it was I who asked it to him

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you know me well, man, why call me as "guy"

strange lance
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SN is while Nicky is still kidnapped but in the AS the kids don't meet Quentin till after they save him. And SN is still imagination so Quentin isn't even real

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It does

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Not

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Matter

silver vine
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Quentin being in SN tells us one thing

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its not an imaginary plan taking place before act 2

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"Quentin being added doesn't matter" is bs

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cuz Ozvard told that the story of SN is changed and THATS what allowed them to add Quentin

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it tells us that SN is no longer an imaginary plan taking place before act 2, but rather a distorted memory/therapy session taking place after act 2

strange lance
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And your proof for this issss what exactly

silver vine
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cuz Quentin comes to the town only after everyone has escaped

strange lance
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Yeah exactly. They didn't. Quentin is just a new character there's no "lore reason" for him in the game. Also the animated trailer literally shows Quentin falling asleep and then is suddenly in SN suggesting SN is a dream. So what about that huh. And what about the fact that finch and delroy are in SN despite not breaking in the others in the AS to save Nicky. Or the fact that only one kid met Otto in the AS being Enzo and now suddenly in SN they all fear him?

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It DOESN'T MEAN ANYTHING

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It's just a big hn2 advertisement

silver vine
strange lance
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Read everything else I said first

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It's so inconsistent

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It doesn't matter at all

snow mauve
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THE LORE

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SUCKS

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GOD DAMN SHUT UP..

strange lance
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Because the AS doesn't connect with SN

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At all

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No matter how you try and twist it

silver vine
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then why did Ozvard say to me that the story of SN has changed and that allowed them to add Quentin

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he is lying?

strange lance
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Because he has to tinycrow. He is told what to do he is told what to say

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He's not a story writer

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He's just a developer for a spin off game

snow mauve
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Man this just hurts my head

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strange lance
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Reminder that they never wanted to add a new kid class. This wasn't his decision. He was just told to do it

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There is no "connection" or deeper meaning

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Quentin in SN doesn't change anything

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He's just a class

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Stop trying to find meaning in every little thing

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Not everything means something

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Not every new addition has some lore reason

silver vine
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that developer told in 2021 that they wont be adding kid classes cuz that would mess with the lore, when I asked him about this a few months ago, he said that the story has changed since then and that allowed them to add Quentin

strange lance
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Quentin is just there

silver vine
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I dont think they are just adding him for fun

strange lance
silver vine
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who told him to do it

strange lance
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Bruh who the hell do you think

silver vine
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Alex?

strange lance
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Who here is the most passionate about the AS who wants every game to somehow connect to it

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Yes Alex who the hell else

silver vine
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but how is adding Quentin to SN connect it to AS

strange lance
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Quentin is from hn2 which is connected to the AS which he appears in

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The rescue squad is not in hn2

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They are in the AS

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The "lore reason" will be from the AS

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So we will wait a see

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What the "lore reason" is

silver vine
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I bet its going to be SN being a distorted memory/therapy session

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where they imagine Otto and Quentin being in the house

strange lance
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Ok but why

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I get Otto

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But why would quentin be there

silver vine
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maybe

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Trinity saw Quenitn breaking into the house

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during the lopice investigation

strange lance
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This man is breaking into houses he seems like a nice guy lets pretend he's helping us in our distorted memories during our therapy tapes

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Do you know how dumb that sounds

silver vine
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what about Otto

strange lance
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That one is easy

silver vine
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this man got beaten up by Peterson, maybe hes also evil and gonna be at his house, lets pretend hes in the house in our distorted memories

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thats how it sounds

strange lance
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Both sound dumb

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Otto still feels really out of place

silver vine
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trauma

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trauma is a terrible thing you know

strange lance
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I know it's a terrible thing I've experienced it

silver vine
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woah woah

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how terrible is it

strange lance
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Death in family

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You see. I get that tramau would make them imagine otto or whatever

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But only one of them met otto

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Just one

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And for like

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5 minutes

silver vine
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same could go for Quentin

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only one of them met him

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that too right after she got severely traumatized

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Quentin also could've got into her head, as seeing another person doing the same thing you did and you end up getting trauma

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you get my point

strange lance
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All the ptsd/tramau reasons in AS and Hn2 are actually so disrespectful.

Trinity meets neighbor what, 5 minutes in his house in episode 1, is fine at the end of the episode and then suddenly is tramautized in episode 2

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That's horrible writing

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And she seems to be just fine in later episodes

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Now she's like man we gotta spy on him

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Were you NOT just tramautized

silver vine
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no

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shes like

strange lance
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World class writers

silver vine
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man we gotta save our friend

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no matter what it costs us

strange lance
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Meant for like episode 3 and 4

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Episode 5 yeah

silver vine
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I wonder if SN map 6 is gonna be the AS act 3 house

strange lance
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That would not be fun to play in

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Also they said no new maps till the others are fixed first

silver vine
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yes

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the maps are prob gonna be fixed in this update

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considering that everything is changing

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I wish they made map 4 more closer to the HN2 house

reef orbit
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quen and otto being added to SN could be implying that it's an imagination of what happened

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since quen and the kids have a similar goal

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they could've teamed up in some part of the story that we haven't got too yet

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and SN is just a broken memory of what happened

shell gull
ripe berry
# silver vine you know me well, man, why call me as "guy"

I'm making a exception to a mini rule I give myself of not sending responses to outdated messages to say I forgot it was you who asked and I was rushing a bit since I was in a convo in another server at the time and was trying to make time to respond to it aswell

shell gull
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True, OR just Paranoia, but that seems more obvious, but doesn’t make sense since that was ONLY in that Episode so far, so I’m leaning with Paranoia.

ripe berry
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yeah

safe charm
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It refer to him breaking into homes

shell gull
safe charm
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True

shell gull
safe charm
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Bro just popped up literally lol

shell gull
shell gull
ripe berry
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Bro spawned in

safe charm
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Imagine there’s no explanation and the explanation we get is

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He spawned in

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He just appeared

ripe berry
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It feels like they're definitely building up to something involving the Guest

safe charm
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Yeah

ripe berry
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The Tapes show MJ's investigation into/attempts to deal with the Guest

shell gull
safe charm
ripe berry
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the Fountain references the Guest as the Crow symbol

shell gull
shell gull
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He got caught

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Same with Quentin

ripe berry
shell gull
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He was following his footsteps

safe charm
shell gull
safe charm
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One I was joking

shell gull
safe charm
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2 nearly the same thing isn’t it

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He got caught

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Was that supposed to happen

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In his plan than

shell gull
safe charm
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Hm

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True

ripe berry
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Oh yeah I didn't share the theory that the Green Tape is MJ blowing up a bomb on the Railroad Tracks and then electrocuting the water underneath to try to kill off the Guest

shell gull
ripe berry
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(It's just a theory ok I dunno for sure if it's correct-)

safe charm
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Listen to it

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Again

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You hear a bomb

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Or something

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Gonna send it

shell gull
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I mean, that isn’t far fetched to imagine he tried to get rid of The Guest.

shell gull
safe charm
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Electric sounds

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As well

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Clearly

shell gull
safe charm
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And guest sounds really aggressive

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Like something is or has happened

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Bro sounds like he’s having a stroke

ripe berry
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I know the theory is subjective based off what the person hears in the tape but what I hear sounds like it could be that

shell gull
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Uhh sorry to break it to you guys but that’s just something called VHS Generation Loss, it’s common, just means the Tape has went through some rough times, also The Guest isn’t angry, he’s Whining, which means he either got Hirt or is Sad, or something else.

safe charm
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Hm

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But why is he hurt smh

flint fiber
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What year do you little Mat-Pats think hn 1 takes place in?

safe charm
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1996

shell gull
ripe berry
# safe charm But why is he hurt smh

So either way the theory is true because the Guest got hurt by SOMETHING right? and also it explains the part of the railroad track that is submerged

safe charm
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Something happened

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At least

ripe berry
flint fiber
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It’s weird bc trinity has a smartphone in wtrb but they just have telephones in the game

safe charm
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Retconned

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Lore

shell gull
ripe berry
safe charm
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What does nightmare 3 mean now is it still useful

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In lore

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Talk

flint fiber
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I know the lore of hn but I don’t know what year everything takes place

shell gull
safe charm
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Hm

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But so when do you think he was summoned

shell gull
shell gull
ripe berry
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Books have the timeline be HNHS is in August 1995, Act 1 is July/August 1996, official statements place Act 2 in September/October 1996, Act 3 is in Early March 2017 based off official statements and guesses

flint fiber
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Also, how th did Mr Peterson build up like 4 levels of his house in the maximum of a month that Nicky was down there in his basement

safe charm
shell gull
safe charm
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For a long time

flint fiber
shell gull
flint fiber
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But guys

safe charm
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You think

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Or did he take it later

ripe berry
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in the Games HNHS is March 20th-May 3rd 1997, Act 1 is June 1997, Act 2 is August 1997, and Act 3 is still Early March 2017

flint fiber
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In the original ep 5 thumbnail I spotted that red part on the left of his house in the top right corner

ripe berry
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and in AS my guess is AS Ep. 1-4 is sometime in August, Episode 5-6 are in October, and HN2 is in October

shell gull
flint fiber
shell gull
safe charm
shell gull
ripe berry
shell gull
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We see them in Beta too.

ripe berry
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the HN2A1.5 Ending was stated to be canon to Old Lore somehow, and it shows Quentin getting ready for seemingly trick or treating

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and the old HN2 images as well

safe charm
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In nightmare 3 at what point does it signal guest been summoned him moving

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Or falling

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On Quentin

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Well attacking

ripe berry
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stuff like that implies HN2 to be around Halloween of 1996 in Old Lore

shell gull
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My guess is the G.A.C. Filled in the Statue we’re offerings for The Guest.

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They summoned him in the Attic Cage for Protection most likely.

ripe berry
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and the Guest seems to have attacked them?

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and yet he has Cult Clothing and a custom Coin around his neck

safe charm
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So the guest always existed somewhere just not in the mortal plain

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Right

shell gull
shell gull
safe charm
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That makes him a visitor litteraly

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Lol

shell gull
ripe berry
shell gull
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GTG

flint fiber
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Also what do you guys think that the shadow monster is? Personally I think it’s a resemblance of fear from either Mr Peterson or Nicky

flint fiber
safe charm
shell gull
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Old Lore BTW

flint fiber
ripe berry
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The Shaodw Monster (files call it "The Thing") is officially a Fear/Trauma Entity, in HN1 it's mostly Nicky's Trauma in HN1 except for the scene where Ted is trapped behind the door not willing to face it

flint fiber
ripe berry
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It's also the Neighbor in SN (as seen when killing the neighbor) and the Shadow Neighbors in Hello Neighbor Diaries

flint fiber
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Does that have something to do with why the edges of your screen are darker when the neighbor is close?

ripe berry
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The Thing only exists mentally but the Guest exists Physically

ripe berry
flint fiber
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I know that the guest is real

ripe berry
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I mean same happens with Aaron in Hide and Seek and you ain''t telling me Mya is afraid of Aaron

flint fiber
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He was the golden apple mascot after all

ripe berry
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ok maybe in Stage 4 I can see it being due to Mya being Afraid of Aaron but not in the other Stages

flint fiber
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I mean after all it’s different with Quentin and all the hnvr kids

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And in SN the screen only turns dark when he has grabbed you

ripe berry
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well Secret Neighbor is more directly tied to the Thing/Shadow Man (again when you kill the neighbor in SN he becomes the Thing)

flint fiber
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And the thing like swipes away when you transform between kid and old man

ripe berry
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so if anything I'd expect them to make the screen turn dark whenever you see the Neighbor, also I don't think being near the Thing does anything to the screen

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at least not in the few times you can do that in HN1

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(Fear Darkness, the Basement, and the Final Fight)

flint fiber
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Well if Mat- Pat is right (Which I doubt) he has made some sort of deal with the devil to bring his family back and then the shadow man must be the games version of the devil

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But he could be right

ripe berry
#

Na if anything the Devil would be the Guest

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and also MatPat may have been right for the Alpha lore, but not for anything past the Alphas

flint fiber
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Exactly

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The mailboxes don’t have 14:14 on them in the full game for example

ripe berry
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(That is unless the Alphas are Coma theory which is another big theory on the alphas)

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To summarize the thought process there: the official Teaser Trailer for HN1 shows the player's car getting hit by a telephone pole (there's even concept art for events after the crash showing this was more then just some throwaway teaser)

flint fiber
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Well then that wouldn’t make them connected to the full release in any way except for taking place in the same universe

ripe berry
flint fiber
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It would still be Nicky’s mind playing tricks on him

flint fiber
ripe berry
flint fiber
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What’s the teaser trailer called?

ripe berry
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lemme get the link to it

flint fiber
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Thanks

ripe berry
flint fiber
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Oh yeah I’ve seen this

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This is the one on the tv?

ripe berry
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in Alpha 2 yeah

flint fiber
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Yes

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I love alpha 2

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And so does 95% of the fan base

ripe berry
#

and lemme get the concept art I was referencing

flint fiber
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Ok

ripe berry
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This is the early concept art showing the incident

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I think there was some kind of vote between this and the entire game being a play as well but I can't back that up with a source other then hearing that

snow mauve
ripe berry
snow mauve
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Like the art to me just looks ugly and off

flint fiber
safe charm
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I like it

stiff spire
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HN wise the alpha 2 mailbox this is what it probably meant the 14:14

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ripe berry
snow mauve
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Ah

stiff spire
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(the lord will fight for you and you have to only to be silent)

flint fiber
ripe berry
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however the story for HN was already changed by Alpha 2 as Matpat's theories referenced the devs hinted that someone was in the basement

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Beta 3 had a story where the player is the Neighbor's son

flint fiber
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I know that’s a little weird

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Maybe Nicky don’t have a father in the games

ripe berry
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This is hinted through things like old achievement names (Like Father, Like Son for beating the game), the player having a image of the Neighbor's House with the Neighbor, etc.

flint fiber
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Maybe he has a stepdad

flint fiber
ripe berry
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Nicky and Aaron are the same age and uh...

flint fiber
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Yeah but they’re best buddies in the pilot

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Of wtrb

ripe berry
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pretty sure Aaron is Ted and Diane's son

stiff spire
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I'd imagine the minute we enter the basement there'd a huge applause

ripe berry
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(Ted is a nickname the Neighbor has, his full name is Theodore Masters Peteterson)

flint fiber
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I know

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I know the names and the basic lore

stiff spire
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that would've been pretty cool ngl the stageplay idea sounded nice but I like the idea of it being creepy and mysterious

ripe berry
stiff spire
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oh yeah and the scrapped idea of Hello Neighbor being about trying to find out if your neighbor was a spy

ripe berry
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yeah that was a old idea

stiff spire
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that would've been cool actually

flint fiber
stiff spire
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I'd love to hear Nikitas take on spy music

ripe berry
#

(also just gonna mention now the Alphas are themed around the 1960s to 1970s, with a piece of concept art hinting that 1962 would've been a important date in Alpha lore)

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hello sosed

stiff spire
#

but anyways the idea of the game's lore that was finalized was pretty cool a creepy neighbor keeping secrets

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who would've thought of that

flint fiber
#

Indie horror devs are so creative

ripe berry
#

and hey the game franchise has a lot of other games in it so clearly the idea was somewhat successful

stiff spire
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it just got confusing overtime

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that's what I would say

ripe berry
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Yeah I mean:

flint fiber
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Bye guys, I’m sleepy

stiff spire
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cya

ripe berry
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The Hell do you mean there's a cult that was created by people with the leader being a ancient curse awoken by said cult that kills people for sacrifices and curses people with bad luck using golden coins with a apple on them and that the Peterson family were some of the many people who were affected by this cult

flint fiber
# stiff spire cya

Now I’m gonna wake up and be on a couch on my front yard and “hold shift to run ” spray painted into the grass

stiff spire
#

you will probably hear some screams too

stiff spire
ripe berry
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and then witness some guy across the street be creepy with a mannequin

stiff spire
#

that too

flint fiber
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I will hear “RUN” and then”QUIET”

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Btw did you guys know that you can hear the sn female “RUN” in hn alpha 2

stiff spire
#

yes

ripe berry
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the power of reusing audio to save you time having to record a character (in this case Trinity Bales/the Leader) saying something

hollow parrot
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Are there any lore videos I could watch ?

thin wadi
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Hello Internet-

hollow parrot
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No like recent videos I keep seeing old ones

snow mauve
snow mauve
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So I'm afraid that if you want to know the lore or whatever

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Then this is pretty much the only place for you to learn

hollow parrot
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Damn

snow mauve
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Yeah

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I mean like I said before

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The books are retconned (not canon anymore)

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Mind as well stick with the animated show

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Since it's the new lore now I guess

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What

hollow parrot
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Nvm

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I’ll find it

snow mauve
#

Okay then?

hollow parrot
snow mauve
#

Ohhhhhh

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That

snow mauve
#

Here's the password

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If you forgot

shell gull
ripe berry
shell gull
hollow parrot
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What game is the man in the hat in?

safe charm
#

No one

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Besides hn2 alphas

hollow parrot
#

Oh

safe charm
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Hello guest alpha 1

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And hn2 alpha 1 and 1.5

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There

hollow parrot
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Ok cs I saw a TikTok with him doing sum to the mc

strange lance
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He's in secret neighbor

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And in the hn2 alphas

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That is all

snow mauve
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The guy is scrapped

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Cuz funnies

light citrus
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don't forget he's in the roblox game

flint fiber
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Anyone here?

manic dirge
flint fiber
buoyant arrow
manic dirge
ripe berry
#

October 20th, 2023: return of the Aidan Cult.
October 26th, 2023: Return of the Quentin Invasion
October 28th, 2023: Start of the Great HNG War

manic dirge
frigid vine
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sorry

livid vigil
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Can someone explain to me the ending of be

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Vr

strange lance
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Aaron frees Nicky from the room, which is the intro of hn1 act 2

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Aaron is then pulled into the nest storm

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Aaron is never seen again

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Then hn1 act 2 happens

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And then hn2

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And so forth

thin wadi
#

And then hn2 he is magical alive again

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No longer in the nest

manic dirge
strange lance
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Yes

ripe berry
#
  1. it was a joke, and 2. HNG is a abbreviation of the name of the server
shell gull
inner lichen
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HNG War sounds unlikely

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I feel like 'HNG Renaissance" is slightly more likely to happen

pale urchin
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HNG Armageddon...

hollow parrot
#

Is hn sr lore?

shell gull
hollow parrot
shell gull
hollow parrot
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Ok

flint fiber
#

Guys

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FINALLY

manic dirge
flint fiber
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Ik

silver vine
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he has always existed

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thats what his profile implies

sturdy ore
sturdy ore
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Ik I feel bad for Ted he broke the law to protect aaron

shell gull
shell gull
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Can’t wait for AS Version of VR.

snow mauve
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It's real now

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Apparently

ripe berry
#

and Enzo has god-tier luck skills

snow mauve
reef orbit
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it's NOT real

thin wadi
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Even the Bales parents commented on it

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Meaning it isn't imagination....

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Why does act 3 have to be real

snow mauve
reef orbit
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they said that he's doing some work

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bro

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if you came out of your house

snow mauve
reef orbit
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and saw the act 3 house across the street

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you wouldn't say

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"doing some work"

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you'd start WW3

wicked heath
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I mean hasn’t he been like this in the GNs as well?

hazy slate
ripe berry
#

My guess on Raven Brooks's History in the AS Timeline before the events of HNHS (I have it set up so you can leave comments on it) https://docs.google.com/document/d/1g6LQZiIAJ6dayeQS7UKTBcY4L7H1Y0yu_xFs5NYcr6U/edit

Google Docs
Hello Neighbor Animated Series Timeline Raven Brooks pre-Hello Neig...

The Town was founded in ~1937 as a small port and it slowly gained more people eventually becoming a mini-city. They then created the Friendly Court District for the population to live in, with what remains of the original town before becoming this mini-city becoming what's now known as Old Town,...

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I tried to keep it factual but there are some theories mixed in there

manic dirge
shell gull
severe locust
snow mauve
#

Clearly you can see the kids look hurt and stuff

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Which shows that they already got out of the house and saved Nicky

vale fjord
#

Hn1 lore: So Mr.Peterson Married Ms.woman man they have 2 children Areon gets so anxious because Ms.woman man and Mr.Peterson haven’t came home yet that he accidentally pushed his sister off the house while playing hide and seek. Peterson comes home from the crash and sees this Peterson locks his son in his basement to keep him since he is his only company. While Peterson slowly loses his mind more Nicky notices that Peterson was doing something with Areon so he goes in his house and opens the basement. Nicky gets trapped in there by the neighbor then he finds a way out and escapes in act 3 he has childhood trauma and nightmares of the neighbor. (I know I got Peterson s Childs name wrong)

shell gull
manic dirge
vale fjord
#

HoorayMoustacheless

snow mauve
#

There's MOREEEE

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Lore than what you think

vale fjord
#

I remember when matpat thought Peterson had a deal with the devil

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is the golden apple the lord of everything in hello neighbor (please say yes)

untold lark
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but i will say

#

it has improved alot

snow mauve
#

AS is peak now man

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It sure did had a rough start tho

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And ep2 was just a god damn filler

untold lark
#

yeah

thin wadi
#

Ep 5 was pretty good imo

untold lark
#

yeah

snow mauve
#

Very good indeed

thin wadi
#

The only complaint is maritxa

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Maritza*

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Always a jerk for some reason

untold lark
#

from ep 3-5 it has gotten better

thin wadi
#

And also if there was more of a build up to the episode, if previous ones had better pacing

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But the episode alone was pretty good

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I like how they did Ted even though I don't really like him just being a ruthless serial killer, they did him pretty well

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I liked when he picked up the walkie talkie to warn them

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Or the whole scene with just him and trinity... and also the house traps were 🥶

untold lark
#

i think the as is good now not great but good

reef orbit
#

wdym

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the ai is worse than hn1

grim tundra
#

IK FR

reef orbit
#

what?

#

what relevance does that have to what I said

#

wait what?

#

cmere

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what do you mean

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yes

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I did say that

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I responded to the guy that said that hn2 ai is good

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so I'm confused on why you responded to my message with As as is Animated Series

hazy slate
#

always toxic and annoying

safe charm
#

@shell gull

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Here

shell gull
#

So what else do you ask?

safe charm
#

So I wonder how the guest manifestation happened like exactly is it kinda like how the hnvr chair nightmare showed

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You think

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With it growing basically

shell gull
safe charm
#

Do we know it didn’t start off as the guest

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At first

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Like it manifested in full costume and everything

shell gull
safe charm
#

A part of me still hope that we’re somehow wrong about the summoning in AS because I really prefer manifestation

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Him being connected to ted

shell gull
#

The idea of The Guest being the Cult Leader and Ted also against The Cult is a nice loop around.

safe charm
#

Eh

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But like so what if we don’t know as much about the guest

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As we think we do

shell gull
#

But so far we know a bit.

safe charm
#

Alex said something about guest story being across hn1 he sn and hn2

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In his guest post

shell gull
#

He’s a Curse, an Urban Legend, and is most likely an Entity the Cult worship, The Cult most likely Summoned Him, and The Guest being a Manipulator took advantage of this to be their Leader.

safe charm
#

In hello engineer what do we get of the guest is the statue

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Everything

shell gull
#

All their is AS Guest Lore wise, is HN2.

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That’s it.

safe charm
#

Nope

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Not anymore

#

They’re trying to make everything AS lore

shell gull
safe charm
#

Yes I do

shell gull
#

None of the Games fit AS

safe charm
#

Nope because hn1 isn’t canon anymore

shell gull
#

But the way they interpret it do.

safe charm
#

Their gonna make a remake

#

Anyways

#

He

#

So did guest spawn in the park right?

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That’s what you used to say at least Mouseflash

shell gull
#

So idk about you but that doesn’t seem right

safe charm
#

Idk

reef orbit
#

hn1 could easily be a distorted memory

shell gull
#

And let me tel you none of AS Ep 4 connects with the Arch: Act 1.

reef orbit
#

but instead of it being only act 2

safe charm
#

They probably had no idea what their we’re doing with old lore

reef orbit
#

act 1 is also a distorted memory

shell gull
reef orbit
#

wdym

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I gave a possible explanation

shell gull
reef orbit
#

tell me why it wouldn't be possible

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no

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I guess I don't

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no I do?

safe charm
shell gull
#

Alex said they are interpreting and making AS a New Pipeline, with that reason, that means all the Games except HN2 and SN after this Update, are Old Lore, they are simply just interpreting the Games in their own way to make everything Connect in some way for them.

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That’s what I’ve been saying.

reef orbit
#

so I do get it

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so they could just interpret hn1 as an entire distorted memory

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act 1 + 2

shell gull
# reef orbit so I do get it

Yeah, just not what fully is what it is, Alex is just rewriting the Games in an AS Fashion, so in turn further Projects will follow the New Pipeline and still somewhat connect with The Past Games, while The Games themselves are still apart for the Retired Old Lore.

reef orbit
#

ye

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I know

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so we're on the same thought

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good

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I just said it badly

shell gull
#

Guestyyy is trying to say The Games are no AS Canon.

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Which they aren’t

safe charm
#

They are AS canon most

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Of them

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Except hnd

shell gull
#

If that makes sense

reef orbit
#

to me yes

safe charm
#

Doesn’t this look familiar

#

To you

shell gull
# safe charm

You mean the thing we already knew happened in Old Lore yes 💀

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We knew Ted ran away.

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Thats what happened

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Eve noticed how he isn’t at the Barn

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To chase Quentin

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In VR

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Skipped straight to him running away, because Quentin was only there to see him runaway in his Car as seen in the Beta.

safe charm
#

There’s books and main lore imo

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Old lore got

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Turned into new lore

shell gull
#

That’s it.

safe charm
#

Isn’t gone….

shell gull
# safe charm Isn’t gone….

It’s Retired yes, but to not mess with something Finished, they are simply Interpreting it’s Lore Factors so for Future Projects things can still somewhat make sense given the Past, they aren’t making its Factors apart of the New Lore.

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Via the reason so many unnecessary changes

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Such as Trinity being the New Kid instead of Nicky and having his Book Personality

safe charm
#

Ngl Nikita probably helped with new lore

#

He’s the creator of the franchise

shell gull
safe charm
#

Maybe he wasn’t happy with old lore

#

Completely

#

Who knows

shell gull
#

He wanted Each Episode to focus on different aspects, for it to be Serious and Horror themed for a Mature Audience, 40 Minutes per Episode, and for it to fit his already established Lore, and the Writers to be one’s he worked with in the past such as Carly.

safe charm
#

Okay but they changed that

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Probably because it didn’t

#

Work out

shell gull
#

Literally the reason why.

safe charm
#

I think pilot was a good example of that

#

It sucked imo

shell gull
#

He wasn’t in charge of the Show he only gave the Ideas, and since it was nothing like he wanted he left.

safe charm
#

Give me proof that’s why he left

shell gull
outer sand
#

nikita never left

safe charm
#

Bro isn’t even allowed to take a break

shell gull
# safe charm Give me proof that’s why he left

Literally said to be out of HN Franchise after Pilot went up for the Public, he established that he didn’t want to focus on HN at the exact time the Series was getting it’s Story changed, they threw him out for Alexus, which also spiralled him to leave the Franchise as a whole knowing nothing would be the same, and then they threw Carly’s writing away just to Retire a lore and just let out the already made Projects before hand the Show is mostly finished and in the Public.

shell gull
# outer sand nikita never left

He did, he doesn’t like it when people mention HN to him, Alex said he’s on break but he’s been on break for more than 3 years or so.

safe charm
#

NDA

shell gull
#

And nobody mentions him anymore.

safe charm
#

And he probably wanna focus on other things for awhile basically taking a break

shell gull
safe charm
#

He outright did a video on YouTube

shell gull
#

It’s kinda odd how Nikita would have a Vision for AS, and when the Show was heading a whole different way he leaves.

safe charm
#

Where he played hn music

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With his guitar

shell gull
#

Possibly because he knew it was going downhill.

safe charm
#

3 months ago

shell gull
safe charm
#

Why do you speak for him

shell gull
#

Via why he doesn’t want anything to do with it.

safe charm
#

Has he said

#

He hates the direction of the franchise

shell gull
safe charm
#

Maybe he was tired

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Maybe the hn2 he planned didn’t work out as well as he thought so he leaved someone else to become Lead game designer and him being more in the background

shell gull
# safe charm Maybe he was tired

Yeah he was tired after spending 4 years of time enjoyment, and then out of nowhere gets fed up with it once the Story was going somewhere else and the Development type got changed, I think you would be relived to not have to work more instead of being Tired.

safe charm
#

As creative designer

shell gull
#

Anyways

#

GTG

safe charm
#

Okay but he didn’t leave

#

Lmao took a break

#

But bye

shell gull
safe charm
#

There might be personal

#

Reasons to why he took a break

thin wadi
silver vine
manic dirge
safe charm
#

And it did

manic dirge
#

no they completly re-wrote the show

safe charm
#

Yes exactly because it needed it

silver vine
safe charm
#

Most likely

silver vine
#

Alex did retcon HN1 act 1 as distorted memory as well

manic dirge
silver vine
#

so that they can fit HN1 and AS together

safe charm
#

The intro in hn1 most likely happened still

#

But months or something

#

Before AS

silver vine
#

most likely

safe charm
#

Do you think guest is connected with Mayak tinycrow

#

Or something

manic dirge
silver vine
#

yes

#

AS version is how it actually happened and HN1 version is whay Nicky recalls and tells to therapist

#

thats what Alex said

safe charm
#

Hnvr could also be an distorted memory actually

silver vine
safe charm
#

Because

manic dirge
#

hnvr is old lore

#

and we all know that the neighbor never made extentions to his house in old lore

safe charm
#

In hnvr

#

Lmao

manic dirge
#

its just like hn1 act 2

reef orbit
shell gull
safe charm
#

Though

teal imp
#

theres like 7 playable kids in that game

safe charm
#

Therapy section

teal imp
#

the distorted memory doesnt work for hnvr

#

by that point its just plot bs

teal imp
#

Aaron having therapy

safe charm
#

Who cares