lore-discussion

[glacial whale]

No eye paintings but the yellow things with the eye is all over every location you go to and the large one in the mayors house.

[silver vine]

yes, but there arent as many of them as there are in HN1

[glacial whale]

Both are eyes so eye is important eye because eye has eye

[safe charm]

Ok tell

We know

Yes

[shell gull]

Probably because they didn’t have a Meaning till now, HN1 wouldn’t count for HN2s Lore also, there placed in Secret Spots sometime such as in the Banner, meaning they have a Meaning behind them.

[ripe berry]

I think those are meant to be the same as the HN1 Eye Paintings but it's just a artstyle difference, and the paintings could be given meaning in retrospect

Like how the HNHS Stage 5 Crow may have been symbolic then

BUT

The Crow now is literally the Guest

[ripe berry]

and AS can borrow aspects from previous HN Media

[silver vine]

there arent as many eye paintings in the house in HN2 as much as HN1

[ripe berry]

and They focus on a Eye Painting for a few seconds in AS suggesting importance

I know, I just thought I should keep it in mind in-case it becomes relavant

[ripe berry]

(referring to the Amount of Eye Paintings in HN1)

[silver vine]

guest also has an eye on his cloak

so yes, the eyes are connected to the guest

[safe charm]

The beta tree

Had an eye

As well

[ripe berry]

Why do you think I cared about the eyes in the first place

[silver vine]

my point is

[ripe berry]

and it's only shown in promo material that features the Guest

[silver vine]

the eye paintings in HN2 are significantly lesser compared to the amount in HN1

also, mayak

lets not forget that

[ripe berry]

They might link Mayak to the cult

I mean Mayak IS in the THEYCROW Video

[silver vine]

maybe to the guest as well

I hope mayak appears in HN2

[ripe berry]

(Cult also uses Eye Symbology)

[silver vine]

the golden apple and the eye are the symbols of the cult

[ripe berry]

(The Fountain had a Eye Symbol and if you zoom out the Park around the Fountain is also shaped like a Eye)

[silver vine]

thers also a giant eye painting in Mayor's cult room

[ripe berry]

Guest has been linked to eyes for a lot longer then the cult (and Mayak has been linked to the Eye Paintings for even longer then that)

HN2 Alpha Map (which is confirmed to be Guest World) is in the shape of a Eye with a Guest Statue at the center

[ripe berry]

yeah

So we should probably keep a eye on the eye symbols moving forward because they could appear anywhere else after/before this without warning

(Also it's ironic eyes are the main symbol because eyes are the one thing the Guest lacks)

[safe charm]

He can see everything through an eye

Symbol

Plot twist

[shell gull]

That’s why they are significant, we know (while this is Old Lore it can be in AS+Peterson Curse still exists) that the Cult has connections to Mayak therefore it has more of a meaning possibly.

[stoic fossil]

I Always tought that the eye paintings meant that yore beign watched

[ancient locust]

ITS A SHADOW

[cunning moth]

Its a theory but the person from alpha two which dosnt have lore because its an alpha and the player you play as in hello neighbor aplha 2 is nicky plus Tinybuild full of easter eggs so it wouldnt be suprising if that theory about the end of HN2 and HN alpha 1 is the same person

[bleak spear]

Its probably actually the missing journalist, who is also otto’s friend from the picture on his desk in his bedroom
They have the same build, and both are bald
Or it could just be a placeholder until the story update

[cunning moth]

cool

[ancient locust]

Good theory

[cunning moth]

It might be answered in the new AS episode

[bleak spear]

Maybe

[ancient locust]

yeah

[bleak spear]

But we do know that whoever it was is definitely a cultist

Because the layout scene takes place right after the current ending

And in the layout scene quentin is being kidnapped by cultists

[glacial whale]

Yea and guy in alpha 2 had shadow. Look down

[bleak spear]

you’re joking right? The alpha 2 player is nicky

[shell gull]

Yeah but based on what we know, He’s Dead, And we know it’s The Cult who did it now, and M.J. Wasn’t apart of the Cult.

[bleak spear]

wait what

what evidence is there to suggest hes dead?

[shell gull]

The Catacomb under the Fountain has a G.A.C. Meaning a Death happened there, M.J. Went Missing to the Cult, there is no one else suspecting for that G.A.C.

[bleak spear]

oh alr

[ancient locust]

everyone has a shadow

[glacial whale]

Yea but it’s him because there’s evidence and proof that confirmed it’s him. Look over there and you’ll see it

[ancient locust]

oh yeah

[shell gull]

🍿

[silver vine]

missing journalist isnt part of the cult

hes against them

[silver vine]

I feel like it was the guest who killed him

cuz thats the last thing he did

he took photos of the guest

if he actually escaped from the guest, his photos would be everywhere and he and prob the cultists too would ahve been exposed

but since that didnt happen, I feel like the guest took care of business himself

[gritty python]

so... enzo has a mom now?

[silver vine]

yes

[short shard]

Slipping and balling 💀💀💀

[shell gull]

Yeah but we know it had to be either The Guest or The Cult, I’m leaning in more that The Cult did it, and sure yeah his Pictures, but remember just like the Tapes The Cult took them and scattered them around Town, and so they would’ve had the Pictures too, also how would they know of the Tapes if they never found him, unless The Guest told them.

[shell gull]

Yup, another useless Retcon.

[snow mauve]

hear me out

bird is a master

[shell gull]

https://tenor.com/view/miles-morales-miles-morales-across-the-spider-verse-miles-morales-earth-42-miles-morales-shocked-gwen-stacy-gif-6908610465597107752

[hazy slate]

exactly

Enzo can't have personailty

or backstory

or anything

only a crush on trinity

[candid locust]

poop

[shut hill]

Why is this your first message here…..

[broken hatch]

[shut hill]

Maybe

[broken hatch]

Wait he join September 18th

[shut hill]

“Poop” is his first message here……

[broken hatch]

Oh

[shut hill]

Something is fishy about this……

[broken hatch]

I mean everyone makes immature jokes like that but when it's the first thing said it's a bit yknow

[shut hill]

Hmmm

Idk

Whatever

[shut hill]

We live

[broken hatch]

We hate we truth 😈😈

[strange lance]

I arrive

[safe charm]

Hi

[strange lance]

[safe charm]

So why was gaap construction driving mr Peterson insane

[viscid portal]

Wait?

[safe charm]

Because its basically at that point he started Losing it

Was it the many accidents that happened

That caused it?

Mouse left me😟

[strange lance]

I'm in school

Considering he thinks Aaron is the issue maybe he went crwzy thinking something bad was gonna happen at all times with Aaron around

Idk

He just IS crazy

[safe charm]

Maybe

[snow mauve]

Aaron is the guest

He went from crowman transformation theme

[oak vine]

Hi neighbours, I haven’t been active recently due to a injury but I’m coming back, what have I missed

[manic dirge]

nothing really. hope your doing well

[oak vine]

Thanks! Likewise

Also wrong channel

My B

[manic dirge]

no worries!

[shell gull]

Ok…what???

Urban Legend for Ages which lines up with Ancient Curse, possibly even Old Lore AU Technically also “Something Terrifying outside that Barn at The Edge of Town” is that referring to the New Seen possible Guest Lair? Or is it talking about the Actual Barn, and also that Line itself lines up with the Beta…

Teds makes sense.

Quentin’s confirms he was from the City, M.J. disappeared overnight.

Gerdas says she Adopted Imbir as he was a Famed Community loved Animal.

Also that she’s protective of her Bakery, makes sense.

Imbirs is just…Imbirs

Keith’s just adds to his Old Man hard at work.

And Otto is once again forgotten, same with the Mayor and Skipper.

[thin wadi]

Patch 9: removed mayor otto and skipper

[shell gull]

[thin wadi]

[Fake]

[silver vine]

its talking about the FG barn intro

where guest runs towards the van

[shell gull]

Ah, but that wasn’t the edge of Town? Well kinda.

[snow mauve]

I believe the guest description are all just outdated and from the beta

I doubt it has something to do with the fg

[safe charm]

That would suck its a cool description

[teal imp]

Could be reffering to the intro

Hopefully they changed the barn location

[teal imp]

The guest looked dumb rather than terrifying in the fg intro

Also the barn is in the middle of the town

Im hoping that them extending the map made them move the barn to a more suitable location

[teal imp]

I feel like if it was refferencing the beta it would say that Quentin got attacked or smth

Also would be odd to have that here

Since its recent stuff

[ripe berry]

You forget the HN2 Map may not be canon

So the barn IRL could be located anywhere

It's just on Friend;y Court in-game due to convience

[teal imp]

Its still kinda dumb

I hope they move some things around to make the town layout better

[snow mauve]

I have a doubt that'll happen

Tho I bet there will be just some more assets/foliage added while the map expansion is somewhere else

Like that red locked bridge

To what I would believe is where we'll explore next

[teal imp]

I mean people were asking for it

If the desc is reliable it could be that the barn was moved to an area that was blocked off before

They might have listened to the feedback Ive seen multiple people asking them to redo the intro

[shell gull]

True

[tame quartz]

yeah they need to add GAAP at the edge of town MAYAK would be nice as well

[tight field]

BRO

I GOT OG EMOJI

I WILL REVEAL

3

2

1

[shut hill]

😮😮😮😮

[languid geyser]

so um i finished listening to reset day audiobook.

i like it.

tho too bad there isn't a sequel.

[potent harness]

they retconned her being dead, even in the pilot

[teal imp]

another sibling??

[potent harness]

apparently

[teal imp]

this is the new SN class

[shell gull]

The amount of Unnecessary Changes to the Lore makes no sense in this Canon.

[ripe berry]

Or it's called the people who made character models being lazy

Great observation! looks like they decided to bring her back for AS for some reason

(If they brought her back for the lols and don't give her some importance then why is she still alive)

Also time for me to once again ask what all we know of the HG Story

[teal imp]

nah they will just kill her again maybe

just so they could have an extra uncensored scene!!!

[manic dirge]

wait thats enzos parents?

[strange lance]

Pretty sure those are just random people

[manic dirge]

yeah thats what im thinking as well

[shell gull]

Agreed

[thin wadi]

I see many debates on whether MJ is mith

What if mith is still scrapped

But MJ was just inspired by Mith

So yes, he has similar characteristics to Mith because mith was just the unfinalized form of MJ

[reef orbit]

You missed the joke

Mith was deffinitely scrapped

Ppl were just joking about it

Uh i think

Also can someone correct me on this

Nicky and aaron were both trapped in the basement at some point right?

And when nicky escaped aaron did aswell?

[safe charm]

Hes not though secret

Neighbor

Has a pin of him recently added

[reef orbit]

Oh

I don't follow sn

[reef orbit]

But this

Someone please

Cuz if that's true

Where the heck is nickyin hn2 intro

[reef orbit]

In the intro

Wouldn't we see him run out with aaron?

Since the intro suggest quen has been standing there for some time

So he would see nicky run out aswell

Since nicky called the cops right after he escaped

Why is it so hard to get answers here

[ripe berry]

Well what if:
Nicky escapes first, Aaron breaks a window to try to escape (HN1 Act 2)
Quentin moves to RB (HN2)
Nicky Reports Ted to Police (Implied)
Late Fees Gameplay (HN2)
Quentin sets up Cameras across RB to see if he can catch odd behavior (Implied)
Quentin sets up Camera at Ted's House (HN Showcase Pre-Stream)
Cops start Watching Ted (HN Showcase Pre-Stream)
Ted leaves to go find Aaron (Implied)
Ted finds Aaron (Implied)
Quentin goes around collecting Footage, crossing out buildings in the process due to no evidence (Implied)
Quentin goes to check up on Ted and the footage he has, sees Aaron getting taken back to the Basement (HN2)
Barn Tutorial (HN2)
Cops send Police to arrest Ted after seeing him knock out Quentin (Implied)
Police Arrive (HN2 Teaser/HN Showcase Pre-Stream)

[reef orbit]

No?

Quen arrives at RB to investigate and he camps teds house

[ripe berry]

(It's a possibility that I'm throwing out there)

[reef orbit]

Noo

[ripe berry]

He has pretty much every other building in town crossed out

He wasn't camping Ted's House the entire time

[reef orbit]

Time passes and aaron comes out

He was though

The cutscene clearly shows him standing there at night drinking a coffee which transitions jnto daytime

And even then there is no way if nicky escaped a lot earlier that quen was there earlier than the cops

[ripe berry]

Nicky is not labelled as a missing kid on Quentin's Investigation, therefore Act 2 is first

[ripe berry]

I know I suggested that, but technically the cops could start watching Peterson before Quentin starts, it's just the way the HN Showcase Pre-Stream presents it the Cops start watching around the same time as Quentin

[ripe berry]

For 1 you got the times of day switched up and for 2 he's in a different position on the road, it's just used as a way to skip to later that night

[reef orbit]

Oh yeah i did get the time switch srong

Still doesn't change anythjng

If nicky escaped earlirr

And called the cops

They'de be there before quen

[ripe berry]

and besides Late Fees times fit perfectly between Quentin moving in (Time unknown, daytime) and the Barn Tutorial (22:00) so he kinda has to be somewhere else for part of it

[reef orbit]

But they're not

[ripe berry]

They are, they just don't immediately arrest Ted

[reef orbit]

Ion think time of day defines tgat late fees plays out between tgese events

[ripe berry]

But Quentin also has his van still in Late Fees

[reef orbit]

Also quen was obviously planning on campjng the house

[ripe berry]

and we know full well Quentin doesn't take his Van out of the Barn after the intro Cutscene

[ripe berry]

He was "planning" on it, and yethe has almost (but not quite) every building in town crossed out when we see him next

[reef orbit]

Do we have conformatiln tgat the dlcs are cannon?

cuz they're quite nonsencical

[ripe berry]

tinyBuild sent a package to ytbers that had a link and a code (https://www.helloneighbor2.com/rbbarchives password HATCHERYWINGATE) and it has articles about both of the DLCs

(In universe news articles)

[reef orbit]

Still doesn't explain why quen is there

There is no reason for him to ve exploring a abandonedn't school and library

Also it STILL doesn't make sensd why nicky wouldn't call the cops right aftet he escapes

So your theory doesn't really make sense

[ripe berry]

The crossing out of the buildings implies he's doing something at every building to check if the person there does it, plus RBBArchives and Descriptions actually give us our reasoning

[teal imp]

Thats what im saying!

This issue wouldnt exist if they kept the beta intro

[reef orbit]

Beta intro sucks

Goofy dream

[ripe berry]

RBBArchives talks about a "odd soud" heard under the Library, and the Back to School DLC Description talks about rumors of kids going missing there a long time ago (Maybe Quentin is checking to see if these new kids could've went missing there)

[ripe berry]

Except the timeline I'm proposing has Nicky call the cops not too long after, and Nicky is known for a... reputation... that would probably make him think for a bit before calling the cops

and this is true regardless of timeline

[teal imp]

Its way better than fg. It introduced the new characters and makes much more sense

[ripe berry]

Books have Ted ruin Nicky's reputation so that no one would believe him,
AS has "Mr. Peterson is a Killer" Nicky who also has a bad reputation

[reef orbit]

Really?

[teal imp]

He has been missing for 2 months im sure the police wouldnt ignore a kid that was missing for months just because he had a bad reputation

[teal imp]

The guest, Mayor, Keith and Leslie

[reef orbit]

he was in tge basement for that long???

[ripe berry]

But still it would probably make Nicky think twice about calling the cops

[ripe berry]

Yep

[reef orbit]

I haven't read the third book yet

[teal imp]

And the guest breaking into the barn was way cooler than the current lame showel thing

[reef orbit]

If that even has that in it

[reef orbit]

That i agree

But it was still a dream

So it meant nothjng

[teal imp]

Pretty sure nikita confirmed it or smth

[reef orbit]

Oh whaz

[teal imp]

Unless alex and his "world class writers" changed it 🫠

[reef orbit]

Who knows anymore

[teal imp]

Thats the wrong mindset

[ripe berry]

and it doesn't exactly matter the exact placement of the events that are implied to exist in that little timeline I made

[reef orbit]

I'm just tryna read the books

To underdtsnd old lore at least

Since it could help with new lore

[teal imp]

Beta had the old plot and the old plot followed the books more which had timeloops

[reef orbit]

Like knowing about the cult and stuff

[teal imp]

(It wont)

The cult has completely diffrent characters

Only tavish and the mayor sorta overlap?

[reef orbit]

But at least I'll have somethjng

Rn i have nothing

[ripe berry]

Old Lore Cult: Lol some guys dressed as Birbs commiting luck rituals
New Lore Cult: Lol some guys dressed as Birbs commiting rituals with sacrifices presumably to curse people with Bad Luck

[reef orbit]

Beta had timeloops?

Or are you just saying books had timeloops

[thin wadi]

Yes, I just thought that others still think he isnt scrapped

[reef orbit]

Understandable

But they were most likely joking

[thin wadi]

Ah

[silver vine]

dude, they're not even the espositos

they dont have a third child

[hazy slate]

it's easy to assume that the beginning of the intro takes place around 7 or 8 am, late fees starts at 12 and ends at 18 (6 pm), So he could've spent a couple hours writing his article before going back out and discovering Aaron being dragged back into the basement, hell maybe that's where the menu screen is from.

[shell gull]

Old Lore is better.

[reef orbit]

I know

[blazing latch]

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[teal imp]

Higher ups dont always make good decisions smh

[blazing latch]

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[shell gull]

Yup.

[blazing latch]

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[strange lance]

I can't imagine Nikita being ok with the story and game change. I can't imagine any egs dev would have wanted to restart development and work with a nothing plot either

[blazing latch]

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[strange lance]

It could have but I just find it unlikely. They were building up to hn2 with all the surrounding media for so long only and you're telling me Alex said "hey lets scrap it all" and everyone was just like "OK!"

Yeah I don't find that likely

In my opinion

[teal imp]

I still dont get what he was trying to gain by making such a stupid decision

[safe charm]

Hi

@strange lance

[strange lance]

Hey

[safe charm]

So I have a theory about the guest possession I think after he made that connection all he needed to do was make mr Peterson weak enough to give in

And than guest would merge with him automatically

Is that possible? In your opinion

I think the guest and mr Peterson become basically a hive mind after hnvr

[strange lance]

I mean it could've happened at any time. It's not like the guest had to wait till gn2 he just did. Any time Ted was at his lowest the guest could've gone at him

But he didn't until gn2

Not sure why

But he did

[hazy slate]

probably plot reasons

[safe charm]

How do we know guest wrapped itself

Around ted

[strange lance]

You really need to stop taking my opinions as fact

[hazy slate]

or maybe the guest gave Ted SOME free will

[strange lance]

I just said that's what I think he did

[safe charm]

Mhm

[strange lance]

Not saying that's what happened

It doesn't really matter how the guest got Ted inside him anyway

[safe charm]

Why this is confusing me is if guest is a physical being how can he posses someone if he already has a body

[strange lance]

He's just built like that

[safe charm]

And not bodyless

[hazy slate]

the guest probably uses crows as temporary hosts while searching for a human host

[safe charm]

When does the protagonist say in reset day it looks like something

In his head has been bothering him

Like what chapter

[strange lance]

Huh?

[shell gull]

Ever seen Ghost Movies? Most Ghost Movies have it to where the Ghost possesses the Person in a Physical Form, it’s just Fiction Logic, nothing more.

[thorn rover]

I have some stupid theory, but I think it's kinda interesting, so, what if the guest and the shadow man is the same person? What if shadow man is stuck in guest's costume, or maybe trapped? What if the white light from guest's beak from the beta intro is the eyes of shadow man? What if the sm was made by sect, and they trapped him in the costume, becouse he was too powerful?

[lapis sonnet]

Man I am inactive on this server

hi guys lol

do ppl even remember me actually

[lapis sonnet]

huh

[reef orbit]

Shadow man represents nicky's fear

Guest is a whole another entity

And beta versions aren't canon

[snow mauve]

Friendly hello hi 👋

You're the guy who made a video about me one time

And uhhhh just talk about hn lore ig

[manic dirge]

well hn2 beta is somewhat considered cannon to old lore

[snow mauve]

To our headcanon yes

But pretty sure it's not

Since it's so called "spoiler free"

[manic dirge]

parts of it are

[snow mauve]

Meh

not really

[manic dirge]

like the fake aaron in the attic

[snow mauve]

But that's just us making our own headcanon

[manic dirge]

parts of it are cannon

[snow mauve]

Well is it tho?

Cuz I don't see any confirmation

[strange lance]

Fun fact the beta just reused the old stuff since it's just the beta. They said spoiler free cause they weren't gonna use that plot in the full release

[manic dirge]

yea

[strange lance]

What the beta shows is what the original stuff was having

Fake Aaron trap

The intro

[snow mauve]

I see

[strange lance]

Etc.

Not the gameplay though

Just the story parts

[manic dirge]

and the map isnt cannon either

[snow mauve]

Obv

Tho what's interesting is that

It has some similar stuff

That actually would connect hn1 very well

Like the big pond

Peterson's downstairs bedroom

[shut hill]

Hey guys

Is it kidna-

[shell gull]

While Yes and No, Popular Theory that literally fixes all holes, E.O.M. Shows that they are the both similar as Manifestation.

[thin wadi]

Did the guest start appearing from the beginning or was it only after Lucy died, or was it after Diane died?

In the books mya and Aaron were stuck in the car because it broke down and Diane had left the car to get help

But in that scene mya and Aaron saw either the guest or a forest protector (can't remember)

And I know those are 2 different things

The guest's timeline confuses me

[shell gull]

After Diane Died, Diane was a Massive Kickstarter starting Teds Emotions to stir up a lot causing The Guest to be born to where he would spy and Learn about Teds Family in HNHS.

[thin wadi]

How do we know he did this in HNHS

[fleet pasture]

What if the neighbor’s infamous Alpha 2 piss ruptured the Neighborverse and caused all these timelines and inconsistencies

[shell gull]

It was The Cult trying to get in, we know that because Aaron said they were pulling on the Window, and also The Guest didn’t exist during this time, at all as a Character, would be an Odd Retcon.

[shell gull]

Because evidence seems to back up that The Guest was the HNHS Crow.

[thin wadi]

Oh?

But the crow looked after mya (except in the ending when he changed his mind)

[ripe berry]

Yeah in Stage 5 the Crow seems to have it's own goals, and making Aaron kill Mya seemed to be part of those goals for some reason

[thin wadi]

So the whole time the crow was just faking them out? Its true plan was to let mya die

[strange lance]

You guys know do know there isn't actually a crow in HS that flies Mya to saftey right 😭

It doesn't save her in the ending cause it was just a saftey gameplay mechanic lmao

[thin wadi]

Well duh

But it still could have meaning

They could have used any other safety mechanic

[snow mauve]

Nah

[thin wadi]

Well I don't know what else

[snow mauve]

I don't think it has any significance at all

[thin wadi]

But just because something is a gameplay mechanic does not mean that it can't effect lore.

[snow mauve]

Y'know not everything has to be involved with the lore

[thin wadi]

Also crows seem to help the protagonists in every game

[snow mauve]

Gameplay mechanic bro

[thin wadi]

In HN2 they fly to the location you need to go too, in SN they mark the key, and then HNHS

[snow mauve]

Gameplay 👏 mechanic 👏

[thin wadi]

I did not say everything. I am talking about one thing specifically which is the crows

[thin wadi]

Its just a common theme across the games

[snow mauve]

Well Ig the crows have it's own good and bad side

So

They're just birds anyway

Nothing too important about them

[thin wadi]

I'm not saying HNHS crow is the guest, I'm just saying the fact that it is a crow could have some significants

[snow mauve]

I never said that..

[thin wadi]

ik

[snow mauve]

Well like what then?

[strange lance]

The guest is only made once Ted is deeply emotional, which imo, would happen after Diane and Mya die

[thin wadi]

Very shortly after their death

Since he was talking with who I suppose was the guest in the mirror at the funeral in the books

[shell gull]

Yeah but now with more Lore it has deeper meaning, and there’s still that wacky Ending Thing of a Crow Spying on the Family, and Plus the Crow is still there throughout the Game, it’s just that it shows that in Reality when something real happens unlike Mya’s Imagination, The Crow didn’t save Her, because it’s just oddly Observing, and right after Mya’s Death The Guest started it’s schemes.

Whether or not HNHS Crow is The Guest, it only contributes to his First Appearance Time in the Lore really.

[strange lance]

I guess

Also the crow spying was in the demo only

Never appeared after that

Also the crows in HS just represent death. In each menu for each stage more crows appear and then Mya's doll falls off the shelf

Also it's impossible for a crow to carry Mya lol. Even if it was the guest I doubt he'd be able to do that crow form

[shell gull]

True.

[thin wadi]

I was not saying that the crow carrying mya was canon

I was hinting that maybe the crow is something mya trusts... for some reason, or the crow is friendly to her and so in her imagination she imagines the crow rescuing her?... idk

[manic dirge]

crows arent just a normal type of birds. crows are smart. like really smart

[snow mauve]

Yes ik

But some crows in raven brooks

Are just normal birds

That are just background characters

But some do in fact act different

And more active

[manic dirge]

yea

[shut hill]

Welcome to Raven Brooks episode 7

[viscid portal]

What new episode is soon?

[bleak spear]

Yeah, episode 3 comes out tomorrow

[snow mauve]

Tomorrow

[viscid portal]

Thank you.

[carmine owl]

What happend to our beloved quintin after the ending?

[snow mauve]

He gets dragged away from the Cultists

And was taken from their hideout

And Quentin meets the guest face to face

https://youtu.be/W9a_zMzzgAM?si=v-Pq9iND4N70SjI8

If you haven't seen this yet

[thorn rover]

What if Maya didn't actually died? In the trailer of HN h&s the Maya's doll is falling, but at the end the crow catch it, what if this have a meaning? Maybe the guest catch Maya, and brought her to the sect's catacumbs?

[safe charm]

Hi

[strange lance]

hi

what exactly is so hard to believe that the guest came from ted

[safe charm]

Because it’s just feels so random like oh random bird thingy shows up because Ted is super sad

[strange lance]

that trope has been done before, on many occasions

[safe charm]

Going by hnvr he can just be a demon he doesn’t have to be a manifestation

[strange lance]

it's a cool concept

ok you know what

I'm just gonna list

everything

[safe charm]

Okay fine

Do it

To me currently it feels more like a theory not almost fact

Like do we know where guest spawned how he looked when he spawned I assume a blob but we don’t really know maybe he looked like the gaap mascot always

[indigo quest]

what's up with the SMITH

where did he go

[safe charm]

Like also in hnvr there’s really nothing indicating he’s a manifestation besides maybe the nightmare and the chase but that could just mean he’s praying of ted

Like when hnvr come out I was confused to why people instantly got the idea guest is a manifestation but I just accepted it I guess

[silver vine]

we didnt see anyone die in ep3

or did we?

[snow mauve]

Nope

Just broken legs

[silver vine]

did principal Abenante die?

[snow mauve]

Dude

Nicky's story is before the events trinity came

[snow mauve]

The principal is still alive

[strange lance]

this is everything I got

it seems

pretty

[safe charm]

Okay thanks

[strange lance]

obvious to me

np

[silver vine]

crap

[snow mauve]

I mean Ted's plan failed

To kill

When she's part of the cult

[safe charm]

Even if AS ep3 was better idk its just too fast paced imo

[snow mauve]

Not really

The pacing is actually really good in this one

Like each stories were perfectly fine

[safe charm]

something just feel off to me don’t get hn vibes tbh but it’s good I’m not saying it’s bad

[manic dirge]

i bet she is

[thin wadi]

AS pacing:
🤢

In my opinion*

Episode 1 and 2 would have been better if it was more about trinity meeting her neighbors and the kids at school, her learning more information about the town from them, and her being skeptical of nicky

In episode one she meets the rescue squad for 1 minute and instantly she's friends with them

She doesn't even know them yet

And then maybe episode 3 would be trinity witnessing Mr Peterson do something, and then she believes nicky. But the inventors club/rescue squad won't act on it until like episode 5

Give room for the characters to have more personality

And more room for trinity to learn about raven brooks, and the audience to learn about raven brooks

I think it is, again this is just my opinion

[safe charm]

Exactly

[thin wadi]

The pacing in the books though 👌 👌 👌

Ik animation takes a lot of work, so making a story as fleshed out as the books would take longer. But I'd rather have something quality or just not have it at all

[thin wadi]

And the thing is the AS could still be ok if they weren't trying to make the games also follow this bad quality story

Either the AS follows the games or it be a stand alone thing

Not the games bending to the AS lore

[shut hill]

Buy our stuff pls

[manic dirge]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/720318918165659779/1159887242584674334/PETERSON_SUBSCRIBE.gif?ex=6532a82c&is=6520332c&hm=0cacf7ae4594ad641e1270498fcf404a708b8695135e92b90a7852c1feb83afe&

[cunning moth]

0

[thin wadi]

They make animations for the subscribe button yet the SN characters have had the same goofy animations since release 🥹

[silver vine]

dude, what they're doing is, finising off the old stuff quickly

we already know what happens in season 1 cuz its literally HN1 and SN

they want to explore more never before seen new stuff

season 2 is Nicky and his friends after hes escaped

we've never got that story before

[languid geyser]

i was thinking about editing all episodes of welcome to raven books into a movie would that be a good ideal?

[reef orbit]

yes

[tribal talon]

guys, quick question, if the show ever gets a season 4, should it take place in act 3?

[subtle turret]

Well, it's a great theory since the game isn't over yet.

[reef orbit]

act 3 was a conclusion to nicky's story

and we don't know what happened in those 20+ years

so deffinitely not

there is no way they won't finish the story in that time

[tribal talon]

i know season 2 is random inventors club shenanigans

[ripe berry]

Season 2 is more like exploring the town's and character's pasts

[subtle turret]

What do you mean?

[tribal talon]

they should make a update to secret neighbour which lets you explore the town

[reef orbit]

no

[tribal talon]

without glitching out

[ripe berry]

Because AlexN when asked about Trinity's Backstory said "not in Season 1" implying it to be in Season 2, and the three other confirmed episodes are a Lucy Yi themed Episode, a Mayak Episode, and a Guest Episode

[subtle turret]

Yes i agree

[ripe berry]

(Mayak is the Building from HGP's Ending in case you didn't know)

[reef orbit]

it's the hn town

and it wouldn't make sense in SN

[subtle turret]

Guys, it would be cool if you could go to that Mayark building

[tribal talon]

well it still exists and also the cartoon makes it make sense.

episode 2 and 3

[ripe berry]

In Early builds of SN you could but they cut the Inside

[reef orbit]

SN isn't episode 2 or 3

you're making 0 sense

[tribal talon]

where the gang sees all this crap go on in the town

[subtle turret]

@tribal talon Amazing, you like Tony Fox's games

[reef orbit]

SN is the kids "saving" nicky

[tribal talon]

yes toney fuox

[reef orbit]

it's the planning phase

[subtle turret]

"Saving" him forever

[subtle turret]

Lol lmao

[ripe berry]

SN is Episodes 4-6 (events depicted) and 7-9 (the Events that get you trophies)

[tribal talon]

why would nicky be in golden apple amusement

[subtle turret]

I don't know if it makes sense for this to happen

[tribal talon]

thats like really weird

[subtle turret]

Even though the ascent golden park

[ripe berry]

Episode 4 has initial plan, Episode 5 has Enzo getting Pictures needed, then SN Occurs with the planning, then Episode 6 is the plan put into action

[reef orbit]

why would otto be there

SN isn't all canon

also it's the kids imagination

[ripe berry]

SN is canon but it's imagination while they plan stuff

[tribal talon]

the cartoon contradicts this

[reef orbit]

isn't ALL canon

like the lore

[subtle turret]

This just means that we are also on hn2 at the same time

[reef orbit]

the gameplay isn't canon

but the lore matters

[ripe berry]

Alex uses SN as a reference since if he used HNVR it'd contradict his little show

[tribal talon]

k

[subtle turret]

Let him be happy

We are all good too

I will have my breakfast

[ripe berry]

But this doesn't prevent SN's stuff from being non-canon

[subtle turret]

It is 9:00 am right now

[ripe berry]

Sure for all intents and purposes it ends with Season 1

[subtle turret]

Aren't they acts?

[ripe berry]

Alex claims the first few episodes of Season 2 are linked to SN

[subtle turret]

Now there are seasons

[ripe berry]

I'm referencing the show here

[subtle turret]

Oh ok

Bye

[ripe berry]

and the Games never consistently stick to a term

[tribal talon]

yes your right but id love to see a event spanning between all maps that relates to episode 5 of the show where detective can take photos of certain things

[ripe berry]

HN1 has Acts, HNHS has Stages, HG had Chapters

[tribal talon]

maybe we could recreate episode 6 in sn? that would be a cool community event

[ripe berry]

Just look up Act 3 House Map on the Steam Workshop and chances are you'll find one that works well since uh...

AS doesn't care about making the Maps actually physically possible

[tribal talon]

who what?

[ripe berry]

Trinity's Room literally can't exist anywhere in her house

[tribal talon]

oh yeah

i dont know what AS stands for im sorry

[ripe berry]

and the Map Ted has in his house suddenly has new locations and images on it that weren't seen in the original episode

[ripe berry]

Animated Series

[tribal talon]

oh im dumb

we could make the AS house in sn

[ripe berry]

(We just call it that since it's easier then WtRB (Welcome to Raven Brooks) and Hello Neighbor: The Animated Series is a actual prototype name for the show)

[tribal talon]

kk

i dont have sn steam tho im tryin to get it but im poor and the only reason why i used (PC) is because i played the microsoft store version

[ripe berry]

Again chances are the map will contradict itself, the Map Ted had in his house gains locations and People when the plot calls for it and again Trinity's Room can't exist when taking the outside of the house into account

[subtle turret]

Guys, I just had a great theory.

[tribal talon]

oh

[tribal talon]

tell us! tell us!

[subtle turret]

I think the neighbor is trying to make a time machine so he can go back and fix the mistake

Even though it doesn't make sense

[tribal talon]

and ive lost you

[ripe berry]

Congrats that is literally the plot of Hello Engineer

[subtle turret]

😭

Ops spoilers

[subtle turret]

No i dont lost u

[tribal talon]

why do so much hn content feel like a fever dream and the others feel realistic

[ripe berry]

(Except swap Mistake with Death of his Family)

[subtle turret]

Idk

[tribal talon]

and yes i know that some of it is that

[ripe berry]

I mean we got a Cult that uses Coins to curse people with Bad Luck that worship a Demon that is wearing a Poorly Made Crow Costume

[subtle turret]

The neighbor might actually be cursed

[subtle turret]

Omg

[tribal talon]

who is also half boy the demon is half boy

[tribal talon]

because hnvr

[subtle turret]

That's why the name of these unlucky coins and coins

[ripe berry]

(He is cursed, at least in the Book timeline)

[subtle turret]

Man i know it

I'm just being sarc

[tribal talon]

hnvr is canon fan service so aaron is part guest and guest is part aaron

[subtle turret]

Sarcastic*

[tribal talon]

it doesnt make sense

[subtle turret]

Yeah i got it

[tribal talon]

im losing my sense of self talking bout it

[subtle turret]

We know that hnvr is Before hn2

What did tinybuild mean with those videos in the last live?

About Alex and stuff

[tribal talon]

or maybe aaron figures out how to manifest imaginary friends and it goes way south

[subtle turret]

You heartless!

He is not alone

He's with ge

We*

[ripe berry]

Yeah, Timeline goes: HND (Flashbacks (Don't know what that is? Look up Hello Neighbor: Diaries on youtube))/HNHS, AS Ep. 1 Beginning, AS Ep. 1-3, AS Ep. 4/HN1 Act 1, AS Ep. 5, SN, HE, HNVR/AS Ep. 6/HN1 Act 2, HN2, AS Season 2, HN1 Act 3-Finale, HND

[tribal talon]

i mean thats what spending like what 1 year down in a basement with nothing but chinese food and soda does to a guy

[subtle turret]

Thanks detective

[ripe berry]

Most of them were trying to advertise different tB Games

[subtle turret]

I guess is this

[subtle turret]

🤮

[ripe berry]

then there were like 2 Clips from HN2's upcoming "Halloween" Patch

[subtle turret]

Just this poor food

[ripe berry]

2 Months

[subtle turret]

Oh noo 🤮🤮🤮

[ripe berry]

He's only down there for 2 Months

No wait you're talking Aaron

[subtle turret]

Yeah we are talking about him

[tribal talon]

is aaron ever gonna get a proper meal in hello neighbour

[ripe berry]

Assuming they're keeping the 2 Month time gap between Acts 1 and 2 this means at least 4 Months pass before HNVR

Since Nicky's been onto Ted for "Months" in AS Ep. 2

(Plural means multiple)

[subtle turret]

Ops

You didn't see anything!

[tribal talon]

so aaron has been down there for like a year with no sunglight, chinese food, and soda?

[ripe berry]

Fun Fact: Aaron hasn't eaten in 4 Days by the time we find him in the Attic in HN2

[subtle turret]

Yes🤮

[ripe berry]

In the Book Timeline yes

no clue about the AS Timeline

[tribal talon]

i mean the junk food part is lucky but depressing

[subtle turret]

I don't know what to say

[ripe berry]

We can infer this from how there's no Food/Remnants of Food in the Attic when we get up there

[subtle turret]

What was alpha 1 1.5 of Hello neighbor2 supposed to be?

[ripe berry]

Also it's physically impossible for Ted to get up there

[tribal talon]

wait i just had a epiphany. what if aaron can switch between himself and the guest like in hnvr

[ripe berry]

So you know the Dream-like world from HNVR

[tribal talon]

and thats why the guest saves Quentin

[subtle turret]

👀

_

[tribal talon]

aaron and the guest share control maybe

either ot

or*

[subtle turret]

UwU

Great work

[ripe berry]

Yeah that is where HN2A1.5 takes place, it's post Current HN2 on the timeline, and the Guest has now taken control of Ted

or sorry AS made the Neighbor's nickname Theo now

[subtle turret]

Ok

Ness?

[ripe berry]

and since AS is in the Dream-like World (literally named Guest World by the files) this is how Ted and the Guest can exist separately

[tribal talon]

yeah

[ripe berry]

in the Alpha

[subtle turret]

I thought you left

[tribal talon]

i didnt

[subtle turret]

Ok

[ripe berry]

and that's as far as I'll explain

[subtle turret]

Ok thanks

[ripe berry]

What if I told you HNVR is not exactly what you think

[subtle turret]

You definitely helped a lot with your theories

I am not kidding

Yes ness help me too

[ripe berry]

The Guest is a entity (the same entity the Cult worships) and is simply using Aaron to get to Theo, and after this the Guest and Aaron are still linked but the Guest is more focused on Theo now

[tribal talon]

so if the guest and aaron are a symbiote that means that means that the aaron is guest therioes is semi correct and oh okay

[subtle turret]

So it is

[ripe berry]

and they can't switch without the little plush thingies

[subtle turret]

Between the basement and there

[tribal talon]

i feel like the guest would be a better dad for aaron then theo

[subtle turret]

Oct

[ripe berry]

and they can't control one another, Aaron is Aaron, Guest is Guest

[subtle turret]

Ah ok

[tribal talon]

but they choose to switch

okay got

it

[ripe berry]

Yeah a demon that feeds off fear and agony is definitely a better dad then Mr. Peterson

[ripe berry]

Yep

[spark tulip]

I have solved Guest's origin.

[ripe berry]

Go ahead

[subtle turret]

Yeah and?

[spark tulip]

Guest is The mysterious urban legend of Raven Brooks. Stories of it have existed for ages, and many people believe it really exists.
You don't know what you believe, but you know that you saw, and there was definitely something terrifying outside that abandoned barn on the edge of town.

[subtle turret]

Yes go ahed!

[subtle turret]

Isn't that obvious?

[spark tulip]

The mysterious urban legend of Raven Brooks. Stories of it have existed for ages, and many people believe it really exists.
You don't know what you believe, but you know that you saw, and there was definitely something terrifying outside that abandoned barn on the edge of town.

[subtle turret]

It went badly

[tribal talon]

indeed because atleast aaron will get some protein because who knows if the guest eats crows as a side or something

[subtle turret]

You just Crtl c and v?

[spark tulip]

Yes.

[ripe berry]

Congrats you just copy and pasted the official description

[spark tulip]

I know.

[subtle turret]

👍

[tribal talon]

so dude

[subtle turret]

Thank you anyway

[tribal talon]

i think that aaron would be the highest on the raven brooks hierarchy if he was adopted by the guest

[ripe berry]

Guest is the Highest, Aaron would I guess be second highest

[subtle turret]

Daddy guest

[tribal talon]

because all the high ranking people in the town worship the guest

[subtle turret]

Uhum

[tribal talon]

aaron would have more power then the mayor

[subtle turret]

The new mayor

[tribal talon]

and he is also a growing boy so maybe the cult will cook him a steak dinner every time they do cult stuff

[subtle turret]

How chic

[tribal talon]

aaron, mayor of raven brooks, adopted son of the guest

[subtle turret]

Hmm???

[tribal talon]

hes a growing boy so if hes gonna grow up to be big and strong to be the leader of a cult he needs his steak dinner

[tribal talon]

or crow dinner

[tribal talon]

eitherway good protein

[subtle turret]

Ahhhhhhhhh!!!!

[ripe berry]

It goes something like: Guest
The Mayor
Police Force (Keith F. Nielsen Newsom, Leslie D. Kornwell)
Misc Jobs (Baker (Gerda), Reporter (Quentin), Taxidermist (Otto Kinander), and Principal (Valeria Abanante))
Lower End Jobs (Teacher (Mr. Murtuagh), Store Clerk (Dead body in Ep. 2), Realtor, Librarian (from HN2 DLC))
Janitor (from HN2 DLC)
the Kids at the Schools

[subtle turret]

Nooooo

[ripe berry]

No clue where Ted falls in this psuedo hierarchy

[subtle turret]

Great explanation

[tribal talon]

bottom guest hates him

[ripe berry]

More like Guest is trying to take over his body for some unknown reason

[tribal talon]

hmm

ted would still be at the bottom tho

[ripe berry]

Guest and the Cult can have different motives at tiems it seems

Like the Cult wants Quentin dead after the events of Current HN2

but the Guest decides to save Quentin

Seems the Guest has some kind of use for Quentin after this

[tribal talon]

if ted can be outsmarted by like 4 12 year olds despite being a genius

hes at the bottom

[ripe berry]

which is especially odd considering the Guest is also a enemy in this upcoming chapter

[tribal talon]

oh okay

[tribal talon]

oh

[subtle turret]

Sorry guys, I was having a discussion on #secret-neighbor

A fight

Jacky solved the problem

Anyway

[tribal talon]

the neighbor should be in a coma because of 1 sn skin

[subtle turret]

Which skin?

[tribal talon]

brave astronaut

actually like any brave skin

[tribal talon]

its blunt force trauma to the prefrontal cortex and the frontal lobe

[subtle turret]

Tinybuild seeing this: oh ok deleting

[ripe berry]

Neighbor watching as 5 Finchs/Scouts break into his home and start firing Slingshots at him constantly:

[subtle turret]

Haha lol

[ripe berry]

(Yes Finch is the Scout's name)

[subtle turret]

See tinybuild tips video

I know it @ripe berry

Finch is a great name

I never see before

[tribal talon]

if brave is able to with almost no effort lift a god dang wrench

she has enough force to kill mr peterson with it

[subtle turret]

Let's talk about it in #secret-neighbor

[tribal talon]

sure

[shell gull]

My guess is, The Cult wanted Quentin dead since he knows too much so they made him a Sacrifice, The Guest didn’t want that and saved him, to Manipulate, I think it’s like Old Lore, he’s just trying to spread as much as possible and will do it by connecting with pretty much anyone.

Most likely Quentin disagrees with The Guest, The Guest gets angry and lashes out, Quentin escapes, realizes The Cult is up to no good so decides to stop them.

[snow mauve]

Well pretty much what I would believe, the guest wants to kill/kidnap Quentin alone

So he lures him to his shelter ig

After helping him out in the catacombs

[shell gull]

Yeah but based on recent Teasers it seems The Guest attacks you near the Shelter/Den, so something must happen at some point.

[snow mauve]

He do be luring him

Then chomp chomp

[ripe berry]

Also might I say the Mill is the last location I expected to return for HN2

(I know it doesn't have the Windmill on top but it looks nearly identical to the Mill's Concept Art)

[snow mauve]

Fitting

For a "boss battle" for the Guest

[shell gull]

True, who knows what is in store for this Expansion.

[ripe berry]

I thought the location was completely cut after HG became HN2

[shell gull]

I’m still kinda hyped to see the Interior design of the Shelter/Den.

[snow mauve]

hoping it would play crowman_shelter theme..

[shell gull]

I think it would be obvious to play that.

[snow mauve]

Yeah but what if it's a different theme

Instead of using crowman_shelter

[shell gull]

Who knows 🤷‍♂️

[silver vine]

act 3 prob takes place in season 3

[silver vine]

he IS cursed

he is cursed with forever bad luck by wicked cult

[silver vine]

he is cursed even in AS timeline

the package with the secret recording sent to youtubers confirm that

[safe charm]

Is the guest hurting all those people

You Think

The hospital

Scene

[silver vine]

how do we know Valeria Abanante?

[silver vine]

he doesnt fall anywhere, hes the black sheep of the town

[ripe berry]

First name comes from Ep. 1 Script

I'd have to dig for it

[snow mauve]

Akshally ep6 🤓

[ripe berry]

Found it

#hello-neighbor message

and she's a Forest Protector because she's on Ted's Board and that crow feather that fell out of her pocket in the Bathroom in Ep. 2

[silver vine]

thats SN and Act 2

[snow mauve]

Akshally same thing 🤓

[silver vine]

yes shes defo a cultist

[snow mauve]

Cuz funny retcon 🤓

[silver vine]

ummm guys...

what the heck is this

[ripe berry]

Random building from HN2 Artist Artstation

[languid geyser]

alright!, i will get started right away.

[languid geyser]

oh thats what it looks like what a way to spoil the suprise tiny crow.

😡

[bleak spear]

either a scrapped character’s house or an early version of otto’s

or a new design maybe

[snow mauve]

funny lil scrap thing for good purposes..

[shell gull]

An Old Location from Old HN2

[ripe berry]

What are your theories for AS now that we got Episode 3? Just curious

[snow mauve]

Mr. Peterson

IS NOT THE KILLER

And all the kids are stupid

That's all that I gotta say

[ripe berry]

I mean...

[snow mauve]

He's doing the right thing y'know

[ripe berry]

there's no way Ted could appear from thin air like that

[snow mauve]

He's doing a favor by taking away all the bad luck coins

Then burying them in a grave

[ripe berry]

so it's something else pretending to be Ted

[snow mauve]

Even tho the victims are dead/injured, at least the rest of the town won't get hurt

[snow mauve]

"Cartoon" 🤓

[ripe berry]

Actaully...

Ted dug up those coins

If you pay close attention

The Bag is empty when he puts it in the trunk

[snow mauve]

Oh right

[ripe berry]

but next we see it it's full

[snow mauve]

Well ig he's moving them somewhere else

Still doing a favor anyway

[ripe berry]

yeah

Not that I don't think Ted is innocent here, but he's not a monster

[snow mauve]

Wait until in later episodes the kids will go like "oh I'm sorry mister 40 year old man"

We thought you're the killer 😟

[ripe berry]

But the Thing seems to be somewhat important to AS, and the Thing is a being that is known to disguise itself as Ted (in SN)

and it could teleport like the "Ted" in the Boiler Room

[snow mauve]

He'll be real in AS

[ripe berry]

and remember this is AS

[snow mauve]

Pretty sure that's just for over dramatic thing

[ripe berry]

Thing could become a actual person that exists

[snow mauve]

I don't think Ted is the THING

Nor have any connection with Ted

[ripe berry]

Not what I'm saying

[snow mauve]

Like the guest

Unless the Guest is the thing now

In AS

[ripe berry]

I'm saying the Thing is disguising itself with Ted (hell to go a step further Thing could be the same as the Guest in AS but that's for another day)

[ripe berry]

I mean Alex suggested it's a possibility

[snow mauve]

I doubt that's the case tbh

[ripe berry]

he held a poll during the premiere that asked who the Guest is with the options being The "Shadow Man" (Thing), "Lucy Liu" (Lucy Yi), and Aaron (and a other option too)

Shadow Man/Thing is the only option that wouldn't conflict with lore

or well lore that's likely to still exist

HN2, we see Aaron and the Guest within mere minutes of each other in two different places

and Lucy Yi is dead

[snow mauve]

Idk what to say

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Plot twist the guest is Lucy Yi

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so Thing is the only option from that poll that makes sense

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but either way Ted didn't cause the explosion from the boiler

Thing feels like the likely option here

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I'm pretty sure he did

Just to kill the principal

Cuz pretty much she's part of the cult

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But either way it doesn't make sense for Ted to blow up a boiler just to kill someone

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Um akshally it does cuz Cult 🤓

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and not like it works anyways from what RBBArchives suggests

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Cult v Ted

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He was just gonna hit Leslie in the Head with a shovel and he just beat up Otto

The people slipping has nothing to do with Cult/Ted as far as I can tell

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Leslie is probably Ted misunderstanding him

When Leslie seems like he doesn't know about the cult

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and hell the Store Clerk was shot with a drill

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Otto, he is for sure part of the cult

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Realtor's death is unrelated to Ted in any way

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And I still believe he is

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Yeah

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so we have no basis for Ted to suddenly just blow something up

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Then why is he in the school in the first place?

Hm

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All his attempts to kill people are less messy then that

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Cuz I'm pretty sure he wants to murder the cultist members

But of course failed

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Yes but there's no basis for the Boiler thing

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Cuz she wasn't there

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You'd think he'd check before doing that

Especially since he'd pass right by her room

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I still believe he's trying to kill her

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Not that I don't think that, I think that he'd know Abanante isn't in her office and would try to blow up a different part of the school

if he was going to blow up the school

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He probably just assumed she's there

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Im mostly wondering why people are getting hurt is it the guest or just bad luck

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But just blow up the area anyway

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From the bad luck coins

Don't you see

Ted has been collecting coins

From the victims that got hurt

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Ok so the guest has no role at all

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Or dead

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Of course not

The guest has other plans to do anyway than some coins

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Either way I agree Ted is trying to help people

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Yep

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Or not help people but eliminate the cult

His goal is to eliminate the cult

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It could be both

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and what easier way to do that then use their own objects against them

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Yeah

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Gather up all the Unlucky Coins and use them to end up causing the deaths of any remaining cultists

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That's what I was going to say

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Okay but

Guest is lucy liu

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Alex misspelled her name by accident

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Aint

No way Lucy is the guest omg

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He literally confirmed it trinityyy

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Ik

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Don't be stupid

Like always

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Im joking around

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Sure you are

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So who is the guest pumpkis

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Same excuse to get away with the situation

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Tell me

Now

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A creature

Easy

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Now hes clearly someone we know

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And that is?

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Or something

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(Nobody)

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Thing most likely based off the poll and process of elimination

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Shadow man

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Nope

I'm starting to think that the Thing will also be a separate entity

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Aaron and Guest are seen in two different places in mere minutes without seeing them move inbetween the two

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Like it would be cool to see both separate entities

The Guest and Thing

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Lucy Yi is dead

Leaving only the Thing to be the option

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The shadow man being the guest would be sick

Imo

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God no

That shit sounds lame as hell

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Yes

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and?

Have you SEEN AS?

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And that's my opinion 🙂

Nothing else to add

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They literally repeated the same plot twice

AS is ok with doing things like that

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🤷

All I'm sayin is just my opinion

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ok

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Idc what AS does anyway

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I respect your opinion

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I'm looking forward to see how it goes

Since ep3 convinced me that it might not be so bad after all

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Anyway so its weird how aaron is even an option

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HNVR:

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Takes me back when most people thought that Aaron would transform as the Guest

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Yes but their seperate

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In hn2 demo ending audio leak

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Well it could be metaphorical in hnvr but hn2

Still disproves

It kinda

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He was referencing that game probably

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So lets pretand guest is aaron HOW?

How can he just become a demon bird all of a sudden ignoring hn2 intro

In hnvr i have been thinking that the guest we see is just a representation of future aaron giving us a choice