Well, I would say fuse
#lore-discussion
ancient nymph
safe charm
He want power
glacial whale
Because it’s Ted he’s very smart and other reasons
ancient nymph
So, he wanted Ted's intelligence, and because of the script
safe charm
So, he wanted Ted's intelligence, and because of the script
Gn2
Hes an evil greedy
Monster lol
ancient nymph
So, he wanted Ted's intelligence, and because of the script
He's a Demon, it's obvious he's evil, HN is not an Isekai
glacial whale
Well guest isn’t with the cult nor is ted and ted is smart so that’s all I can put together here. I’ve not kept up with the lore since things got very confusing
ancient nymph
So Guests takes control of Ted because of yes, Ted's body was the most sexy from all and he wanted it, he possesses him, and start doing bad things because he's a demon, ok
safe charm
Well he was smart
ancient nymph
Well guest isn’t with the cult nor is ted and ted is smart so that’s all I can p...
For what I know, the cult summoned Guest
ancient nymph
Then Guest started doing bad things and got out of control
safe charm
No the guest is using the cult
ancient nymph
He was likely just there
I made up a theory in which The Guest is created from Ted's bad feelings
safe charm
Thats likely true
ancient nymph
And he wanted Ted to suffer to become powerful
ancient nymph
Then, if Guest is using the Cult, he added suffering to Ted's live
ancient nymph
Then in GN2 when Ted becomes good and go to stop the storm, the Guest notices that he will be Happy, so he fuses/possess him to keep him sad, and that's why he said "look what you have make"
ancient nymph
The guest can also shapeshift
I know
orchid pike
He's a Demon, it's obvious he's evil, HN is not an Isekai
We don't know what he is
orchid pike
Sorta
ancient nymph
We don't know what he is
God
orchid pike
Capes kinda too much though
orchid pike
How do the devs manage to make everything about this franchise less creepy
hazy slate
hello guest goose superior
orchid pike
Yes
safe charm
hello guest goose superior
I can agree somewhat
ancient nymph
I don't know which I prefer
safe charm
Like its a cool design
hazy slate
I hope we see both models, despite that being unlikely
safe charm
But not have it be permanent
orchid pike
Ok without Cape new guest design is ok
With Cape it looks cool but loses the creepiness it had
glacial whale
Dang I already saw a conversation about capes
ancient nymph
So the only thing clear about The Guest is that he Fuses/ possesses with Ted, he does bad things and Reset the same day repeatedly
safe charm
Yes
orchid pike
I like that the new model looks old and ancient
ancient nymph
We don't know if he is clearly bad or not
safe charm
He is bad
hazy slate
But not have it be permanent
My idea is to have the guest start off as the hello guest model and get worn down over time, becoming cape goose
orchid pike
We don't know if he is clearly bad or not
Definitely bad idk anyone who is good who just likes to make people suffer
orchid pike
Not good at all
ancient nymph
He is bad
But he helps Aaron and also helps the main character in HN2 ( I have forgotten his name)
safe charm
But he helps Aaron and also helps the main character in HN2 ( I have forgotten h...
To get to ted
safe charm
He used aaron probably for something
glacial whale
But he helps Aaron and also helps the main character in HN2 ( I have forgotten h...
Helps? You mean manipulate
manic dirge
the cape is mehhh
orchid pike
The world could just be a game to him. Like I said he likes to make people suffer. If he killed you, you would just be dead
ancient nymph
He does good things with reason but without us knowing the reason, and then make bad things
orchid pike
It's for bad
safe charm
Hes not good
orchid pike
He tricks and deceives
ancient nymph
The world could just be a game to him. Like I said he likes to make people suffe...
He is know a Rick Sanchez who is above all the other people
hazy slate
The world could just be a game to him. Like I said he likes to make people suffe...
just like the world is a playground to UET users
orchid pike
lol
ancient nymph
xD
glacial whale
He basically takes stuff from people
In gn2 didn’t the guest say take what you don’t deserve
ancient nymph
I don't know what UET is, but xD
safe charm
In gn2 didn’t the guest say take what you don’t deserve
Yes
hazy slate
I don't know what UET is, but xD
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safe charm
He Said when the protagonist Said what are you doing
hazy slate
ultimate editor tool
ancient nymph
In gn2 didn’t the guest say take what you don’t deserve
I rember that sentence, but I don't remember if it is from Reset day or from GN2
ancient nymph
Then he could be like Saw
ancient nymph
He could make suffer people who doesn't appreciate what they have
And that's basically everyone
But then, the cult exists because of Guests or because some town's people wanted luck, money and power and used the machines to have it
?
ancient nymph
To make the people appreciate what they had
ancient nymph
Because Guest didn't know how to use the mayak machine, he manipulated Ted to do it for him
ancient nymph
The GN2 is the only book that I haven't read
safe charm
The GN2 is the only book that I haven't read
The protagonist says the raven man takes things becouse hes lonely
ancient nymph
And Ted is lonely, then the theory of Guest is Ted's bad feeling creation makes more sense
safe charm
Yes
The protagonist even says
To ted youre the raven man
Becouse he is the guest is a manifestation of himself
ancient nymph
So, if Ted finally gets happiness, Guest will disappear
safe charm
So, if Ted finally gets happiness, Guest will disappear
Yes
Thats why he choked him
To not feel happy thoughts
And take him over
ancient nymph
To keep him sad, and keep existing
safe charm
Yes
ancient nymph
So now, the only way do kill Guest and save Ted is to make him Happy, make him feel good
How to beat Guest/Ted in 1 step:
Bring him to the psicologist
safe charm
Actually no mr Peterson is completely
Taken over
So it problaby wouldnt work
They probably would need to kill him unfortunaly
ancient nymph
What do you mean with Ted isn't completely possessed?
safe charm
What do you mean with Ted isn't completely possessed?
He is
Completely possesed
After gn2
ancient nymph
So he isn't conscious
safe charm
He hasnt sleept since hnvr
Litteraly
The guest connected with him making him awake always
ancient nymph
What?
safe charm
He basically cant sleep
In hnvr guest touches mr Peterson this is him connecting with Ted
Not possesing him yet
ancient nymph
Because, if he falls asleep, Ted isn't sad, because he is sleeping, so, the Guest doesn't exist while Ted is sleeping or he gets really weak
safe charm
Problaby idk
ancient nymph
I just try to give reasons to not let Ted sleep
I don't see reason to not being able to sleep, he would die
safe charm
I don't see reason to not being able to sleep, he would die
The guest is keeping him alive
Problaby
ancient nymph
So, Ted can't die while Guest is with him
safe charm
Yes
ancient nymph
It would be awesome that in HN3, we play as Nicky again, and go to finish the Fusion, defusing them, and letting Ted rest in peace once and for all
safe charm
Maybe
ancient nymph
That would be the best ending
safe charm
Goodbye neighbor
ancient nymph
Because with Ted dead, Guest can't get power, because the feelings that made him aren't existing anymore
So he would die slowly
ancient nymph
Then we could get a DLC or HN4 that it's the Guest trying to get a new person to get power
ancient nymph
We need to get one to end the story
ancient nymph
Then, I would only sit, clap and congrat Tiny build for the great ending
But it would be too much for a DLC
safe charm
Yeah
ancient nymph
It would be better for a HN3
ancient nymph
But Guest and Ted need to be alive for the GN2 and for Reset Day
ancient nymph
It would need a real big tile skip
safe charm
Be after gn2
ancient nymph
It could
maybe, HN2 main character and Nicky could work together to end The Fusion
the ones who fought with Ted and with Guest should be the ones to end them
shell gull
Hi
ancient nymph
Hi
shell gull
Meaning in act 4?
That he’s scared of his mistakes
safe charm
That he’s scared of his mistakes
Do we ever get a glimpse of his descent
Into madness in hn1 in your opinion
ancient nymph
I love how the conversation about Guest, Ted and fusion changes absolutely to Act 4
shell gull
Into madness in hn1 in your opinion
Uhh locking up his kid yeah
safe charm
Uhh locking up his kid yeah
So I read Aaron trilogy
Mr Peterson doesn’t seem as insane and angry even in the end of book 6 like
He is in the Nicky trilogy
Mr apple thinks it’s a retcon
shell gull
Mr Peterson doesn’t seem as insane and angry even in the end of book 6 like
That’s because it slowly developed
safe charm
That’s because it slowly developed
But in missing pieces it showed through
ancient nymph
at the end he had just lost his daughter, in Nicky trilogy had passed time to get worse
safe charm
A tape he was nuts
Before gaap
With the whole his brain is broken line
And being aggressive
shell gull
A tape he was nuts
Yeah after Aaron ruining their lives forever with a mistake
safe charm
Yeah after Aaron ruining their lives forever with a mistake
Didn’t Nicky say
It was before
Gaap
ancient nymph
what is Gaap?
safe charm
He said something it isn’t news mr Peterson is insane what is news is that he was insane
shell gull
It was before
He never specified the actual Date, just about before he came.
safe charm
While building gaap
shell gull
what is Gaap?
Golden Apple Amusement Park
ancient nymph
aaahhh
safe charm
And his whole family knew it
shell gull
Gtg
safe charm
What was he referring to then
safe charm
Got to go
ancient nymph
a, ok
bye
about the madness, I think that Maya died, he started breaking, then with the time he got more broken, and there is the Ted from Missing pieces/ Nicky trilogy
ripe berry
about the madness, I think that Maya died, he started breaking, then with the ti...
?
Mya ain't dead until the end of Missing Pieces
Diane dies during the events of Missing Pieces, like right in the middle, so you can't mean her
ripe berry
I confused Mya with the girl that died instead
Ah, you meant Lucy Yi
ripe berry
yeah I could see that
safe charm
yeah I could see that
So
Was the tape with mr Peterson and diane
Dancing before lucy died
Or after
ripe berry
I don't think the tape had a concrete date
None of the tapes have a year on them iirc
so it could be in like 1994 and we wouldn't know
safe charm
So in AS let’s get to the bottom
Did mr Peterson kill the guy in the store I don’t think so
Since he bumped into something
ripe berry
Na
the Cart's Wheels have blood on them
it's clear that Ted didn't do it
and since the Guest seems to be using Ted as a pawn
the Guest likely did it
hence why it seems the Guest is attempting to make the scene be recontextuallized through Ted
safe charm
hence why it seems the Guest is attempting to make the scene be recontextuallize...
In the books after gaap did ted abuse
His family
Psychologically
safe charm
Yeah what did he mean to diane
Everybody knows what
You think of me
What does she think of him lol
ripe berry
safe charm
<:nickyshrug:1074357221162483823>
Maybe AS will connect everything games but I doubt it
But I can hope
safe charm
<:nickyshrug:1074357221162483823>
If mj
Isn’t Mith
Imagine neighbor killed him in the red tape
And that’s the body the kids find in ep6
ripe berry
yeah that could be possible
safe charm
yeah that could be possible
Maybe hide his body in his basement
Or maybe in the tunnels
ripe berry
maybe
Either way MJ is a 50/50 on if he's dead or missing
by the time of episode 6
he either dies after he "got too close to them"
which happened a few days before HN2
or he's just missing
in hiding
whatever
safe charm
whatever
So do you think
Mr Peterson in AS want Nicky down in the basement
Like in the books
ripe berry
Maybe
safe charm
Potentially Guest controlling him or smth
Again Do you think they have canonized alpha 1 lol
I wouldn’t mind
ripe berry
Maybe
ripe berry
most of us agree
safe charm
I think the Guest is a cult leader
Like a entity that took control of the cult
snow mauve
most of us agree
You agree to what I said?
safe charm
As their leader
snow mauve
Like a entity that took control of the cult
Yes that's what I meant
safe charm
Maybe
snow mauve
I mean it makes sense
Cuz remember the tiny club teaser
The guest was wearing the exact similar clothing
So I guess it's been confirmed that HN2 is definitely canon to AS
safe charm
Nah it’s a mix
snow mauve
Mix of what?
snow mauve
Nah it's definitely just AS lore
safe charm
Mostly AS
snow mauve
Nah it's definitely just AS lore
I don't see how it would connect with the book lore
ripe berry
Guest def is a leader of the Cult, I just ain't sure if he founded it or is taking control over it
snow mauve
Yeah that's what I believe
But then some people would just debate about it
And just assumed that he just found the cloth out of the trash
Which sounds lame
Tho makes sense
safe charm
Is he even an entity anymore? Or is he more of a creature like an actual one now
snow mauve
He's still a entity
ripe berry
Guest def is a leader of the Cult, I just ain't sure if he founded it or is taki...
The Silver Eye Coin he's wearing is what makes me think this
snow mauve
And just a creature
snow mauve
The Silver Eye Coin he's wearing is what makes me think this
That's what I was thinking the same
Thank god i wasn't the only one who thought of that
Like it would make sense
ripe berry
The Silver Eye Coin he's wearing is what makes me think this
because in the painting in the Museum the average Cultist wears a Gold Golden Apple Coin
safe charm
What if the guest started the forest protectors myth
snow mauve
because in the painting in the Museum the average Cultist wears a Gold Golden Ap...
Exactly
safe charm
And the cult
snow mauve
What if the guest started the forest protectors myth
Yeah probably
ripe berry
and Eyes are connected to the Cult through the Fountain, the Park, and the Mayak in THEYCROW
snow mauve
Mhm
snow mauve
Yeah I don't think he's summonable
I think he's just some cult leader
That the other cult members praises him
However, in the layout v2
It looks like he betrayed the cult members
ripe berry
Meanwhile Guest is tied to eyes because the Alpha Testmap (a proto Guest World) is in the shape of a eye, that one piece of HN2 Beta Promo depicts the Guest as he chases Ted and a Eye Symbol on a tree, and HGP being unlocked through the Mayak Event, which is triggered by hitting Eye Paintings
snow mauve
It looks like he betrayed the cult members
By freeing Quentin or smth
ripe berry
Guest is a Ancient Curse
safe charm
Forest protectors isn’t even a myth guest is an actual one
ripe berry
Achievement Names make this clear
snow mauve
By freeing Quentin or smth
And I guess the guest is planning something so he can kill Quentin alone
ripe berry
Guest was probably summoned, temporarily worked for the cult, and then abandoned them
snow mauve
Yeah
ripe berry
Guest is a curse so the Guest may have had some influence
allowing the creation of the cult
But it was properly summoned after the Founding
safe charm
So how did the cultist summon the guest in the website the cultist was after an object shimpnut theoized that what they used to summon
The guest
snow mauve
So how did the cultist summon the guest in the website the cultist was after an ...
Website??? 💀
snow mauve
Ohhhhhhh
safe charm
Remember
snow mauve
Mb
ripe berry
The joy of creation!
Imagine if the Guest is just like the Animatronics in that FNaF Fangame, creatures that feast on Creativity and then "burn the rest"
safe charm
Article
ripe berry
The Raven Brooks Banner Archives
safe charm
Or did the cult just do a dance and guest was summoned I don’t think so
Lol
It’s probably something they wanted to use for the summoning
snow mauve
Or did the cult just do a dance and guest was summoned I don’t think so
💃
Plays the Mayor's theme
Seriously tho I don't think they're dancing
It's more like singing
If you remember in the old tapes
safe charm
I was joking lmao
snow mauve
Right
safe charm
Of course they were singing
But where did they summon him sh1mpnut thinks museum
But I think catacombs
snow mauve
Museum makes sense tho
Since that's their original hideout
Heck there's still candles, golden apple coins, and even their own paintings left out in that place
safe charm
Is the guest just a spirit in the tapes originally it sounds very spirit like but as the chant continues
It gets more what should I say
Um I think you know what I mean
safe charm
Heck there's still candles, golden apple coins, and even their own paintings lef...
Summoning might be cool if they execute the idea right
safe charm
Guest is a curse so the Guest may have had some influence
So like
In book 3 the one tape
When mya goes near mr Peterson in his study in the basement while he mutters gibberish
Is that after Diane died?
ripe berry
maybe Idk
ripe berry
but that could still be both before or after Diane's Death
Since last I checked Diane was still alive during Nicky and Aaron's Prank at the local grocer which happened on August 19th
safe charm
but that could still be both before or after Diane's Death
Mhm
shell gull
Since last I checked Diane was still alive during Nicky and Aaron's Prank at the...
Yeah that’s when they both got grounded, then during their time grounded Diane Died, which is why Aaron was spending time with Mya.
thin wadi
I'm finally reading gn2
The way the portal to the nest is almost like a crawl size tunnel reminds me of the crawl space to the Other House in Coraline
If anyone has seen Coraline you might see what I mean
thin wadi
Finished it.. Wait so is the nest a dream for regina?
Or is part of it kind of real, like she actually went through a portal
manic dirge
Or is part of it kind of real, like she actually went through a portal
she went through a portal
thin wadi
she went through a portal
Ah ok
So is the nest like a dream like world?
Because she went through a portal to get there but to get out she just woke up
shell gull
Because she went through a portal to get there but to get out she just woke up
It’s real
But very Complex
thin wadi
I see I see
teal imp
I just really like this scene, idk why
I love how the guest is just being so petty here
going out of his way to make fun of a kid just being sad that their dog died
thin wadi
going out of his way to make fun of a kid just being sad that their dog died
Bro really insulted her
teal imp
he is so petty I love it
thin wadi
he is so petty I love it
I love how he takes the shape of pris because earlier pris called regina a baby so he's like mocking her with her step sister and then how the dimension slowly changes to all the blending colors in the background and slowly circling around regina trying to mess with her mind
Beautiful
Now imagine if this was animated
teal imp
btw whats the deal with fran
thin wadi
The AS but its GN2
thin wadi
btw whats the deal with fran
Hes dead
thin wadi
Oh yeah
teal imp
thats at the end of the book
teal imp
The other flan
fran IIRC
thin wadi
Mb
teal imp
and in the mayak
thin wadi
No its flan
teal imp
no I think the parents see the dog after the explosion
or something
I might be misremembering
thin wadi
Hmmm
No the parents are confused in the end
The dad says "And who are you? Oh. Wow. He looks just like..."
teal imp
so yeah they see the dog
thin wadi
He doesn't know who it is but knows it looks like flan and its not imaginary
thin wadi
so its just a random dog
Hmm
He says "tell you what I'll help you out"
"There you go, good as new"
Hand her flan
But its not the real flan
So maybe that flan in the guest world came back?
I'm not sure honestly
teal imp
not sure why the guest would revive her dog
shell gull
So maybe that flan in the guest world came back?
No The Nest is just Make Believe mixed with Reality, think of it kinda like the Upside Down, non of that make believe can escape except The Guest and real people, that’s why we never see the Fake Versions of the People escape in VR.
outer sand
I just finished reading the GNs
Show of hands, how many people actually have read these? Like, READ these?
Because there's stuff in these books I've seen NOBODY else talk about
Like, for example: In GN1 one of the main plot devices is just straight up a ghost. It's literally just a ghost of one of the central characters. It's also set during the time where Peterson was still building parks, pre-GAAP and Germany
GN2... it feels like all anyone talks about with that one is the scene with the Guest and that one panel of Ted wearing the Guest outfit
shell gull
We talk about it all the time, it’s just certain things have literally no meaningful things to the Story, such as Ghosts.
safe charm
GN2... it feels like all anyone talks about with that one is the scene with the ...
We do talk about it lol it’s just that we aren’t sure we can trust their information longer since AS
I personally do trust them
outer sand
Ahhhhhh
shell gull
We do talk about it lol it’s just that we aren’t sure we can trust their informa...
We can still trust it? It’s just not AS Lore, as simple as that.
safe charm
We can still trust it? It’s just not AS Lore, as simple as that.
True but it feels like old lore will get scrapped eventually and I hope not
shell gull
True but it feels like old lore will get scrapped eventually and I hope not
All they said is The Future Pipeline is AS, nothing against Old Lore, they aren’t scrapping it just focusing on something else from now on.
safe charm
All they said is The Future Pipeline is AS, nothing against Old Lore, they aren’...
So is hn2 closer to old lore in your opinion I think so
Personally
shell gull
Eh neither
safe charm
It has AS elements
shell gull
It’s just Mixed IG
safe charm
It’s just Mixed IG
Yeah
shell gull
Hope they keep guest thing
Maybe
I just really really love this:
It suits him so well
safe charm
Yeah but I don’t want him to just be completely afflicted with the cult he should
Do he’s own thing as well
shell gull
Do he’s own thing as well
He is
safe charm
Like I hope he’s an old myth like he’s described in gn2
shell gull
We know that he’s most likely just with The Cult to gain and use.
safe charm
And not recently summoned
shell gull
Like I hope he’s an old myth like he’s described in gn2
He’s an Ancient Curse
Fair enough
shell gull
Basically
It’s a Curse, yes he existed just never got used, we’ll probably has just not recently, it’s fair to say that Ancient, meaning he’s some sort of Medieval Curse at least IMO based on what we know.
safe charm
It’s a Curse, yes he existed just never got used, we’ll probably has just not re...
So he was summoned
shell gull
So he was summoned
Possibly
safe charm
Long ago as well
shell gull
Long ago as well
Possibly
safe charm
It fits the guest better imo
shell gull
Eh nah, I don’t see Ancient Demon Curse works better than, Advanced Being from a different Plain.
Old Lore AU Guest would demolish HN2 Stand Alone Guest.
shell gull
As in being recently summoned
Oh well yeah
shell gull
I mean The Cloaked Idea would’ve fit so well with Old Lore Guest.
safe charm
Or just take them
shell gull
Yes
Then in that case Yes and No, he’s Kidnapped and Killed People for benefit and ETC.
safe charm
Then in that case Yes and No, he’s Kidnapped and Killed People for benefit and E...
Yeah in AS wouldn’t suprise
Me if he killed the store
Guy
Or the cult
One of the 2
shell gull
Yeah
thin wadi
No The Nest is just Make Believe mixed with Reality, think of it kinda like the ...
Doesn't explain how flan is still alive in the ending
thin wadi
I did, I liked it a lot
thin wadi
Liked the whole book, but Idk why I really like the nest scene the most
safe charm
Like missing pieces
thin wadi
Read any of the books
I've read books 1 - 5
Still have to read 6 and 7
And now I've read all the graphic novel ones
safe charm
I've read books 1 - 5
1 2 3 4 the raven man is outside your door
thin wadi
1 2 3 4 the raven man is outside your door
safe charm
It does
thin wadi
But as for new lore, its probably retconned
thin wadi
Isn't it because of the Mayors BOAT magazine? (It says 1996)
safe charm
Nicky’s house is across the street not trinitys
Yes and that’s recently
It’s not old
It says back in a few
Days the mayor is at a boat tour
safe charm
Isn't it because of the Mayors BOAT magazine? (It says 1996)
The only thing
Tying hn2 with AS is the cult being active
thin wadi
Yeah
thin wadi
I do now that I've read GN2
safe charm
I do now that I've read GN2
Could you explain
I just seen pictures
I should buy
It
shell gull
Doesn't explain how flan is still alive in the ending
That isn’t Flan, it’s actually different Dog that looks identical, it just happens to be that they took them in.
thin wadi
That isn’t Flan, it’s actually different Dog that looks identical, it just happe...
O, that kind of makes sense
shell gull
That isn’t Flan, it’s actually different Dog that looks identical, it just happe...
As they were with them the entire time.
safe charm
But I guess mr Peterson get drowned guest takes him over what I’m kinda wondering is if him strangling him made the neighbor possesed or if he strangled him and later possesed him I guess it’s up to interpretation
What happened
shell gull
But I guess mr Peterson get drowned guest takes him over what I’m kinda wonderin...
It’s not a big deal thing, just apply Fiction Logic, done.
safe charm
It’s not a big deal thing, just apply Fiction Logic, done.
Is guest a ghostlike
Thing then
Not physical
thin wadi
Could you explain
The guest lives in the nest, which is like a dreamish reality ish type dimension, you can get there through portals but nothing is exactly realy except for the guest himself. He tries to manipulate you sometimes to make you think or feel a certain way. He takes away what he deems people don't deserve
He has the power to go between the real world and the nest
Kind of like the demogorgon
From strangers things
thin wadi
Hes physical all right
shell gull
Not physical
It’s Physical
safe charm
So how did bro posses him if he’s physical
A demon isn’t physical most of the time
In some cases yes
shell gull
So how did bro posses him if he’s physical
Ever heard of Fiction Logic
Literally
Look at Ghost Movies
The Ghost is literally there
safe charm
But he’s not a ghost
shell gull
And then zips into someone.
shell gull
But he’s not a ghost
Doesn’t matter it’s the same Logic.
It’s not hard to understand, Guest makes Ted submit then Possesses Ted.
safe charm
So he can’t posses anyone
shell gull
So he can’t posses anyone
?
thin wadi
Ok guys, hear me out. We need a guest voice reveal. What would the guest sound like when talking to a human in a demonic tone like you can see in the speech bubbles in GN2?
shell gull
Ok guys, hear me out. We need a guest voice reveal. What would the guest sound l...
We’ve heard his Voice
In the SN Guest Noises you hear whispers.
thin wadi
Does anyone have the sound files for his voicelines?
shell gull
Does anyone have the sound files for his voicelines?
Just listen to this: https://youtu.be/OpK71enM8ac?si=07e6DWNt_EQWsVHf
safe charm
The real world
shell gull
The real world
He leaked into the Real World yeah
Technically The Guest always existed
Sense he is Teds Emotions just brought to life
safe charm
Technically The Guest always existed
Before ted??
shell gull
Before ted??
No just when Ted was born
shell gull
Does anyone have the sound files for his voicelines?
For example even based on The Guest feelings he has a different Whisper Raspy Voice, when he’s angry you can hear the Clear Raspy Hisses.
thin wadi
Yeah, I see
shell gull
Yeah, I see
Pretty cool.
thin wadi
Guest is so cool
shell gull
Into reality
No it’s just that The Underground has tons of different types of Gateways, and sense The Nest takes people via Gateways, The Underground a place with 1000s of Gateways would commonly have Nest Corridors.
safe charm
Maybe hnvr is the first time he enters the real world and Nicky have just been in the nest once
And saw him
shell gull
Remember the further in The Nest the worse as you can get trapped, that’s why Nicky was trapped in a Nest Corridor but could escape, he wasn’t in The Deep Nest.
shell gull
Guest is so cool
Yeah
thin wadi
No it’s just that The Underground has tons of different types of Gateways, and s...
The Underground?
shell gull
Guest is so cool
Also what I find funny is for his Breathing Sounds you can hear that he hyperventilating a bit.
shell gull
The Underground?
The extension parts of the Basement.
safe charm
The Underground?
Do you believe the manifestation theory
Afro
That he’s born by teds emotions
shell gull
Do you believe the manifestation theory
To be fair it’s not really a Theory at this point
Everything is literally siding with it
thin wadi
That he’s born by teds emotions
Yeah kindq
safe charm
To be fair it’s not really a Theory at this point
It’s still a theory imo
thin wadi
I think he always existed, but needed an unstable host, like Ted who was unstable from all the deaths
safe charm
Yeah
safe charm
I think he always existed, but needed an unstable host, like Ted who was unstabl...
Do you think the guest we are running on the road in gn2 is ted in a costume or something
Or the guest entity
shell gull
I think he always existed, but needed an unstable host, like Ted who was unstabl...
You can believe whatever, it’s just that Entity Of Manifestation is a wide spread belief in Lore Dis.
safe charm
So the guest is so interesting but he’s a bit confusing
thin wadi
When it comes to lore when things aren't confirmed then there is no right or wrong answer
safe charm
Imo
Like we have this neighbor and then we got a bird man with powers
And mr Peterson still gets the focus Ik he’s the mascot
But cmon I wanna know more about the guest he’s way cooler
shell gull
When it comes to lore when things aren't confirmed then there is no right or wro...
Ofc, but the reason E.O.M. Is so wide spread is because it fits all the Puzzles Together.
shell gull
Also what I find funny is for his Breathing Sounds you can hear that he hyperven...
Another cool Voice Line, is for his Confused Line you can actually here him say “Huh?”
thin wadi
It was ok I gues
But didn't really have any meaningful lore that effects the raven brooks story
thin wadi
I mean cool to hear about Ted's failed creations outside of raven brooks, but Bosco Bay doesn't help us solve anything
Its like its own story
shell gull
I mean cool to hear about Ted's failed creations outside of raven brooks, but Bo...
True true
Just gave some more info on his past
shell gull
Can you guys hear it?
safe charm
The guest is cought in an explosion in gn2 maybe that’s why mr Peterson mustache is burning in rd
And no he didn’t escape from what I have seen
There’s no way he had the time to escape in such a small period of time before mayak exploded
shell gull
Can you guys hear it?
“Hauhhhh”
safe charm
But so in one of the tapes you can hear mayak sounds most likely because it’s the same mechanical sound like in the they crow
Video which have mayak
The electrical sound
shell gull
Video which have mayak
It doesn’t always correlate like that
safe charm
Why would they put tapes with no
shell gull
Also that’s the sound of static
safe charm
Beats me one of them is just Crow Noises
It Almost sounds like it’s burning
Why would they just
Put tapes with crow and guest sounds
We know what the guest sounds
safe charm
Beats me one of them is just Crow Noises
safe charm
I mean cool to hear about Ted's failed creations outside of raven brooks, but Bo...
Can you hear
Anything in the tape audio
Afro
shell gull
Even when you Reverse it sure it’s Guest Groans but that tells nothing except “uh oh spooky Crowman”
safe charm
Even when you Reverse it sure it’s Guest Groans but that tells nothing except “u...
Ok but it’s gotta have lore
Something
shell gull
You can hear weird mechanical sounds
That’s just The Guest.
It’s him Groaning plus Static mixed together
spark tulip
Why would Guest be hurt?
shell gull
Is he hurt almost
To me more like just creating something to spook the Player
Not much
spark tulip
It's just slowmo Guest noises.
spark tulip
It does have lore.
safe charm
Nope
spark tulip
Guest is a part of the lore.
spark tulip
What can you get from that
Guest noises.
spark tulip
That’s sounds from a character
From a character that's a big part of the lore.........
safe charm
Yes the character itself
But not him making sounds
That’s just like mr Peterson grunting
shell gull
But not him making sounds
Exactly it’s Nonsense
shell gull
Yeah it’s just a nod
safe charm
Yeah it’s just a nod
Is there
A bunch of crows as well
Or only the guest doing sounds
thin wadi
Why does Ted have rope
Unless he was planning to use it to set up the trap in the mayak
(Trap that caught regina)
snow mauve
I mean he was using that on that orange hair girl (forgot her name)
thin wadi
I mean he was using that on that orange hair girl (forgot her name)
Regina
snow mauve
Thanks
snow mauve
I mean he was using that on that orange hair girl (forgot her name)
When she woke up
As a trap
Oh wait you already said that..
🤦
thin wadi
So was he expecting someone to possibly come in the mayak
snow mauve
Pretty much yea
snow mauve
He's deadass a neural network
thin wadi
I mean honestly he's survived 3 breakins at this point (HN1, HNVR/SN, HN2) so he always come prepared with traps wherever he goes now
snow mauve
Yep
snow mauve
I mean honestly he's survived 3 breakins at this point (HN1, HNVR/SN, HN2) so he...
Also HE
snow mauve
Guest connection
thin wadi
In GN2 the crow tells him things
snow mauve
Oh
(I didn't play HE)
You should definitely play it, it's really fun
thin wadi
So the guest is manipulating him through crows as well?
snow mauve
You should definitely play it, it's really fun
Unless you're not the type of person who plays hard games
Nor have the patience
snow mauve
So the guest is manipulating him through crows as well?
I think so yeah
I mean it would all make sense
thin wadi
You should definitely play it, it's really fun
I plan to get around to it maybe but I had played the demo and couldn't beat level 2 so I didn't think that game was the best for me
snow mauve
Since the guest now connects in Ted's head (thanks to hnvr)
snow mauve
I plan to get around to it maybe but I had played the demo and couldn't beat lev...
Fine by me
thin wadi
Nor have the patience
I mean I probably have enough patience with HN games, I beat HN1 on mobile a few years ago and that was so painful (I would not do that again for a million dollars)
Though my patience level has slightly decreased since then
snow mauve
Ah
manic dirge
I mean honestly he's survived 3 breakins at this point (HN1, HNVR/SN, HN2) so he...
well technicaly in hn1 act 1 he didnt chase him (lore wise)
thin wadi
I mean I probably have enough patience with HN games, I beat HN1 on *mobile* a f...
I'm the only true hello neighbor fan here 🗣️🗣️
manic dirge
well technicaly in hn1 act 1 he didnt chase him (lore wise)
gameplay he did
lore wise he did not
thin wadi
well technicaly in hn1 act 1 he didnt chase him (lore wise)
That may be true
Well there's also AS lore
manic dirge
That may be true
cuz in book 3
manic dirge
cuz in book 3
ted was just somewhere
thin wadi
cuz in book 3
Yeah I remember, I've read books 1 - 5
snow mauve
Books do be retconning how Nicky get kidnapped
manic dirge
ted 100% knew nicky was entering but he wanted that
thin wadi
ted was just somewhere
Wait but lore wise, didn't Ted want nicky so that Aaron wouldn't be lonely down there?
manic dirge
Wait but lore wise, didn't Ted *want* nicky so that Aaron wouldn't be lonely dow...
yes
thin wadi
ted 100% knew nicky was entering but he wanted that
Yeah
snow mauve
Books do be retconning how Nicky get kidnapped
Then AS he just stands there and uses a rope to put him under the basement
thin wadi
Then AS he just stands there and uses a rope to put him under the basement
What AS leak is this from?
snow mauve
Alex CEO
In one of the gif
Showed Ted going towards Nicky
Then just stands there
While Nicky just look at him
In AS
thin wadi
nicky did hide from ted 2 times in the books
Wasn't that in book one and book 2 right? And then the 3rd time nicky was snooping around was when he got into the basement
snow mauve
Book 3 Nicky finally entered the basement
thin wadi
Does anyone remember the Rhyme Mr Peterson sang while he was cutting the meat in book 2 and nicky heard him?
manic dirge
Wasn't that in book one and book 2 right? And then the 3rd time nicky was snoopi...
well first time was when ted opened the cellar entrance and was looking for nicky. and the 2nd time nicky was hiding in the clost while ted was cutting meat
snow mauve
While HN1 is just Nicky going in the basement curiously while Ted just stops him but decided why not lock him up
thin wadi
While Ted just lured him
Plot twist!
Man I love the books they actually had plot points that caught you by surprise that you didn't expect, unlike the AS where its obvious Ivan is the traitor
snow mauve
Well AS
Nicky's kidnapping is so lame
It's just Nicky trying to open the door
But immediately gets captured by Ted
Just sneaking up on him
manic dirge
It's just Nicky trying to open the door
and when nicky got kidnapped in the piliot that was even worse
snow mauve
and when nicky got kidnapped in the piliot that was even worse
Eh it's not that bad
thin wadi
Does anyone remember the Rhyme Mr Peterson sang while he was cutting the meat in...
Anyone remember?
manic dirge
Eh it's not that bad
ted just took him from the street
snow mauve
Eh it's not that bad
Tho it's pretty basic lure
snow mauve
Does anyone remember the Rhyme Mr Peterson sang while he was cutting the meat in...
I haven't read the books for a long time now so I don't remember much sadly
thin wadi
ted just took him from the street
I mean its kind of like what happened in the intro in HN2, Ted dragging Aaron from the yard back into the house, I imagine that it looked like that in the AS pilot
manic dirge
I mean its kind of like what happened in the intro in HN2, Ted dragging Aaron fr...
yea but aaron is his son and lives with him
nicky does not
manic dirge
Meanwhile old hn beta lore
oh yeah
thin wadi
The hn beta had lore?
manic dirge
that lore just...
manic dirge
hello dad lore
snow mauve
But later on it got changed immediately in the full game
thin wadi
Glad they did not go for that
snow mauve
I mean it was a pretty interesting concept
But for the game's main title is non sense
snow mauve
When it's more like Hello Father
manic dirge
I mean it was a pretty interesting concept
yea
snow mauve
Than Hello "neighbor"
thin wadi
Why would you be breaking into your dads basement
snow mauve
Memories
manic dirge
hello dad/ hello father
snow mauve
Ig
thin wadi
When it's more like Hello Father
This title sounds so memable
stiff spire
if we did get the father and son lore how would HN expand HN2 would most likely be different and we'd probably not get Mayak or the GAAP
the Guest probably wouldn't even exist
tribal talon
Nicky is the little child fro hn1?
bleak spear
Yep
safe charm
Wanna see guest in the vr game
Want me to send a clip
Wait a sec
Heres all cutscenes
No wait theres one
Missinh
bleak spear
Oh no
safe charm
He doesnt become the raven
But some think he got temporarily possesed while
Others Think
Its just a switch device
He doesnt kidnap people except for nicky you should
Read the books
bleak spear
The only person who died in the car crash was his wife,
His daughter was pushed off the roof accidentally by aaron (his son)
And aaron is the kid that he locks in the basement at the beginning of hn1
To “keep him safe”
safe charm
His daughter was pushed off the roof accidentally by aaron (his son)
What made him snap in your opinion
Like before this
Cause he was already kinda nuts in the books
bleak spear
What made him snap in your opinion
Idk
bleak spear
Well he did kidnap nicky and his friends
safe charm
I just recomended the Books
tribal talon
Aaron feels bad for his father and he doesnt want him to die and he tries to hel him
Wait you talking about hn1 or hn2?
bleak spear
Well they didnt know that you didnt know there were books
bleak spear
Aaron feels bad for his father and he doesnt want him to die and he tries to hel...
Hn1 prolly
tribal talon
Hn1 prolly
ª
bleak spear
Nope
safe charm
?
safe charm
We didnt
bleak spear
Also, act 3 and finale are a sort of self therapy, they didnt actually happen
tribal talon
Also, act 3 and finale are a sort of self therapy, they didnt actually happen
Are like dreams
bleak spear
Are like dreams
Yes but also no
Hn2 is on sale rn on steam
And i think hn1 is as well
$40 usually
tribal talon
I think it is in discount right now
snow mauve
Well jeez
bleak spear
Anyways i gtg now cya
tribal talon
Holy sh-
snow mauve
Damn
safe charm
snow mauve
Family friendly interaction
Yawn
I mean is it really that hard?
I see
brrrr
Nice spelling 👌
tribal talon
I think you can see the location of your phone
snow mauve
bwah
safe charm
Ok this is lore discusion sooo
snow mauve
Ok this is lore discusion sooo
eager glade
Please let's be respectful towards each other alright
eager glade
Let's go back on topic everyone, if there's any issues you have, you can message Jacky or the moderators.
bleak spear
graphic novel
snow mauve
nuh uh
safe charm
Yes
safe charm
2 but the first is mid
safe charm
The second one is better
bleak spear
$10 each i think?
safe charm
With the guest i think
bleak spear
what is it?
bleak spear
ohh yeah you need to do that b4 you trigger the cutscene
at the part where ur running up to the neighbors house its there
eager glade
I think Depkis was not aware of your disability. We understand you, and we hope you can understand that we do not tolerate insults at other members here.
bleak spear
just go into that house's backyard before triggering the scene where ted locks aaron up
snow mauve
I think Depkis was not aware of your disability. We understand you, and we hope ...
Yeah I didn't know and I'm very sorry
safe charm
Gn2 is peak
thin wadi
Guest sucks
snow mauve
Shocking am I right?
thin wadi
Shocking coming from this guy named Depkis with a guest PFP
thin wadi
It's not the guest!!!!!
manic dirge
the guest kidnaps the SN squad or was it TED?
shell gull
the guest kidnaps the SN squad or was it TED?
Uhhh no Ted does, in VR.
strange lance
ted doesn't put them in the nest, they get transported there by accident and he just so happens to be there with them so he can catch them
manic dirge
ted doesn't put them in the nest, they get transported there by accident and he ...
ahhh ok
shell gull
and he puts them in the nest?
He puts them in Nest Corridors that he mistakes to be his own Underground, Mouse explained it good enough.
manic dirge
He puts them in Nest Corridors that he mistakes to be his own Underground, Mouse...
ah ok
silver vine
what is war of independence
I dont think hes part of the cult or hes working with the cult, I think hes the divine deity of the cult or the leader of the cult.
snow mauve
I honestly believe the guest became a cultist leader mostly cuz the cult members started praising him
But
silver vine
I dont think guest is "working" with the cult, I think hes somewhat manipulating them and making them do his biddings