Honestly, the Neighbor always was kinda insane, even before the retcon
#lore-discussion
wicked heath
wicked heath
he ruined Nicky's life in the hope he can capture him and turn him into a play-puppet for his son and stuff
thats already a bit messed up. Next he tries to destroy the town (I mean yeah, at some point he changed his mind, but still)
undone birch
thats already a bit messed up. Next he tries to destroy the town (I mean yeah, a...
Dang see I didn’t even know all that, yeah that’s pretty bad, I don’t really blame him for going insane after what he’s gone through but dang
glacial whale
I liked the neighbor being more neutral than evil and the cult or guest being the main evil. Though I don’t like constantly having to feel sad for the neighbor.
shell gull
No, side project.
teal imp
Im really dissapointed in how they made ted be one note in the AS
He is no longer an interesting character
silver vine
hi
pliant estuary
k im here
shell gull
<@865044068719132712>
Yeah
shell gull
But how do you think it first appeared
Just leaked in the real world.
safe charm
Just leaked in the real world.
So
thin wadi
Patch 9 leak actually leaked
safe charm
It was inside
thin wadi
Now he is real
shell gull
Ted originally
You could say that, but also not really, The Guest is Teds Emotions, his emotions just got so bad that a Physical Version of those Emotions Formed with its own thinking and everything.
safe charm
You could say that, but also not really, The Guest is Teds Emotions, his emotion...
Oh okay so
In hnvr did guest get more powerful when he made
A connection with ted
shell gull
A connection with ted
He just gained access to Teds Mind.
Makes it easier to Torment him.
shell gull
Always the gaap mascot
Yeah, he got his form from the G.A.M.
safe charm
Is their
Any moment in reset day where the characters
See mr Peterson in his normal form
shell gull
See mr Peterson in his normal form
Yeah?
shell gull
Not a photo
Unsure
safe charm
I’m interested how the guest possession works like how can he look
Like ted sometimes
shell gull
Fiction logic
You see it in other fiction
shell gull
Controlling him when he’s normal
Yeah
safe charm
So is guest willingly charging form
shell gull
Teds probably still deep down in there though.
shell gull
So is guest willingly charging form
Yeah.
shell gull
Looks more like in reset day
It looks the same as his original
safe charm
Not identical
shell gull
It looks the same as his original
You think that because the book is the same color as the Beak.
safe charm
It’s so weird they are taking so many book elements not talking
shell gull
So then The Beak in the Book appears like that.
shell gull
I mean In general
It’s the books, the ground piece of the franchise.
safe charm
Ok bye
wicked heath
isnt the image just a close-up of the crow from earlier?
safe charm
No?
tribal talon
I think the crow lives under nicky's house /j
tribal talon
@warm mango2009
wicked heath
I think the crow lives under nicky's house /j
and how do you come up with this piece of knowledge
tribal talon
and how do you come up with this piece of knowledge
Noticing the crow sounds when you are in Nicky's house /j
wicked heath
I think you are delusioning here
tribal talon
I think you are delusioning here
What do you mean
wicked heath
What do you mean
theres no crow sound in nickys house
either you are hearing things or you re just confusing it with background sounds
otherwise, this would have been talked about for ages
plus the fact the Guest didnt exist till Secret Neighbor released
tribal talon
Bro i wrote /j in every message i made
I was joking
wicked heath
i see
narrow smelt
Hello does anyone have any theories about who knocked out Quentin at the end of Hello Neighbor 2 ?
silver cargo
Hello does anyone have any theories about who knocked out Quentin at the end of ...
Its a cultist, it igot confirmed trough the newest teaser.
ripe berry
yeap
wicked heath
not the first time the Guest does this kinda things to protagonists
tribal talon
Its a cultist, it igot confirmed trough the newest teaser.
When? Teaser???? Where
tribal talon
Thanks
shell gull
Yes but he’s doing it to gain his trust to then manipulate him.
safe charm
True I guess
shell gull
So a lot of people say that hn2 is still canon
First off No, it’s Still a Stand Alone, people have their Opinions, but when you look at Fact and Logic, HN2 is Not Canon to any Lore as of now, people are just trying to tie in things that can’t fit such as Aaron getting dragged by Ted.
safe charm
First off No, it’s Still a Stand Alone, people have their Opinions, but when you...
When I said
It in chat earlier
Some said that I was wrong lol
snow mauve
First off No, it’s Still a Stand Alone, people have their Opinions, but when you...
It does fit
For ted dragging Aaron away
That could work
At least for hn2
snow mauve
Well no duh
safe charm
Oh
safe charm
I don’t want too but I will anyway
snow mauve
Cuz I'm not doing that
shell gull
That could work
It doesn’t when you take in the fact Aaron was dragged into The Deep Nest, Ted doesn’t have that Capability, Ted was just caught by The Guest earlier before that segment, so Ted wouldn’t be there, why would The Guest pull of his usual Manipulation strategy’s but not do the usual conclusion, how does Aaron even escape The Deep Nest, sorry it doesn’t fit, you can’t make it fit, just because some person out a cropped video together and says that shows how it fits without understanding the deeper meaning in those segments is futile.
shell gull
I don’t want too but I will anyway
Believe what you want to believe for now.
safe charm
Believe what you want to believe for now.
I’m just a bit frustrated
Trying to make it cohesive
Lol
shell gull
Trying to make it cohesive
You can’t.
safe charm
That’s what’s frustrating me
shell gull
There multiple Lores you can’t make everything Cohesive.
snow mauve
It doesn’t when you take in the fact Aaron was dragged into The Deep Nest, Ted d...
Well it's the only option that could at least make hn2 canon
shell gull
That’s what’s frustrating me
Ah.
snow mauve
That’s what’s frustrating me
Then stop overcomplicating yourself
safe charm
I can’t
safe charm
Nope I never could
snow mauve
Which that makes some of us annoyed of you
safe charm
I understand
That
It’s just that I liked when I could properly make a cohesive timeline I miss it now I can’t
shell gull
Well it's the only option that could at least make hn2 canon
Actually no, just Retcon Aaron, we’ve done that before and it was the simple option, without ruining the rest of the things, we can retcon Aaron because VR came out afterwards, and even then, VR was a prequel, we did it with HN1s Ending and Intro, why not do it again, and fix the Lore for the Lore it is (this is if HN2 is apart Old Lore AU).
safe charm
But AS is canon now
snow mauve
But not the books or AS
shell gull
But AS is canon now
Not really, recent media has been Old Lore stuff, even then Alex himself just said Canon was Flexible and Everything is Canon, and even in the Post Mortem, he said that AS isn’t changing the story’s but starting a new branch.
safe charm
Not really, recent media has been Old Lore stuff, even then Alex himself just sa...
What
He said that
👀
snow mauve
To try to piece it together
But you're not supposed to 💀
shell gull
He said that
Pretty sure something like that, he said something about not discarding old media.
safe charm
Pretty sure something like that, he said something about not discarding old medi...
He said he wanted
shell gull
To try to piece it together
💀
shell gull
To wrap the story with AS
Yeah, to wrap the new Pipeline with AS.
safe charm
Oh okay
shell gull
Which are New Games in the Future
For Example: HN1 Remake
Will most likely be AS first game
If HN2 is Old Lore
snow mauve
Well there could also be a chance that hn1 remake could still be part of the book lore
shell gull
Well there could also be a chance that hn1 remake could still be part of the boo...
True.
shell gull
New games?
Yeah.
shell gull
Do you think they are really gonna stop Milking the Series.
shell gull
I wouldn’t want too many games maybe a third one
Ew
snow mauve
You can just ignore it then
safe charm
True
shell gull
Anyways, all we would have to do to fix HN2 if it’s Old Lore is Retcon Aaron, we did that with HN1 to make it fit with Old Lore and what Nikita said, with HN1s Ending and Intro, so why couldn’t we just do it again.
Simple.
And it would make sense with later things in the Timeline.
strange lance
safe charm
So my first question
shell gull
<:GooglyGuest:1128410980662132897>
Agreed
strange lance
like, during a certain game? Or just in general
strange lance
Well, yeah. If he was made in the park and saw the mascot's design to get his appearance he would have to be outside the nest
and Nicky has seen him
so yeah he can be outside the nest
safe charm
So did the guest just spawn one day Ik he was
Born out of his emotions
But like did it just happen in one sec
shell gull
So did the guest just spawn one day Ik he was
Yeah pretty much.
safe charm
So how do you think
Original hn2 was supposed
To play out
Like after the beta events
shell gull
To play out
Quentin tried to save Aaron, finds out he’s a Fake and gets Mauled by The Guest.
safe charm
Sad that we won’t
strange lance
Quentin maybe becomes norman darby and goes back in time or something I don't know
safe charm
Ever get the full story
safe charm
Quentin tried to save Aaron, finds out he’s a Fake and gets Mauled by The Guest.
Nah there was more
Afterwards
safe charm
Well hn2 unfortunately likely won’t
strange lance
hn2 cannot work with hn1 because in the hn2/As lore Trinity is the new Nicky
shell gull
Nah there was more
That’s all we know, we know we got attacked by The Guest at the end as seen in the Beta, so that’s the e best we have for an ending.
shell gull
hn2 cannot work with hn1 because in the hn2/As lore Trinity is the new Nicky
As of now HN2 is a Stand Alone, we have to wait and see, if it’s Old Lore then Retcon Aaron, if it’s AS then cool IG.
shell gull
(Wth did auto correct Wait to Sleazy)
strange lance
Hn2 would still need to change a bunch to be old lore, way more than just Aaron
which I can't see them doing now
they're moving on with the new stuff
safe charm
which I can't see them doing now
There was a ton
strange lance
with cult and guest blah blah blah
safe charm
Of suggestions
shell gull
Hn2 would still need to change a bunch to be old lore, way more than just Aaron
Eh not really.
strange lance
and look none of it worked like i said it wouldn't. They (specifcially Alex) aren't gonna let hn2 go back to how it was
safe charm
Not bringing old lore back for hn2 is a mistake imo
shell gull
and look none of it worked like i said it wouldn't. They (specifcially Alex) are...
True.
shell gull
Not bringing old lore back for hn2 is a mistake imo
Say that to Alex.
safe charm
Because I don’t really care about the cult storyline
Not trying to sound mean sorry if I do
The cult storyline was finished in the books
No need to keep using it
strange lance
Eh not really.
Remove Aaron, change up the story and progression of gameplay to fit with the fact that Aaron isn't there, change the cutscenes, add in the guest, story for the guest, cutscenes for the guest, gameplay for the guest, change the whole town to be wacky and broken down, expand the world, change all the AI locations to fit with their original characters and give them their actual stories give Quentin his actual backstory add in all the scrapped characters and give them their stories, locations, and gameplay as well. Tie it all back to HE, reset day, gn2, and hnvr, and sn.
There is too much
that would need to be changed
you can't JUST remove Aaron
shell gull
No need to keep using it
Well it still fits, and it wasn’t finished in the Books, they referenced them in Book 7, really that still fits Old Lore, Cult falls apart they have last resort items being the G.A.C. See The Guest as a God, The Guest releases this and uses it to its own benefit.
strange lance
if you JUST removed Aaron, the story would still be exactly the same except Aaron just isn't there anymore. You still have to change everything else
teal imp
Hng has suddenly become really colorful
teal imp
Remove Aaron, change up the story and progression of gameplay to fit with the fa...
Bro more than half of this isnt needed to make hn old lore
strange lance
because it was part of the original story what else lmao
teal imp
Seems like they only kept tge important ones
safe charm
They just need to add gaap and change chapter 1
Basically
And maybe mayak idk if that was supposed to be a thing
teal imp
because it was part of the original story what else lmao
Ah yes this character that barely did anything is vital for the story
strange lance
everything in the original hn2, all the characters, all the locations, and all the gameplay were connected Nikita himself said that in an article.
shell gull
Remove Aaron, change up the story and progression of gameplay to fit with the fa...
Just Retcon Aaron we’ve done it with other Media, The Guest doesn’t have anything to do with the Story, even then with Chapter 2 it seems he has a spot that still fits, The Town is already shown to being destroyed with Renovations on most of all the Homes or The Hurricane just hasn’t hit yet, AI Character Tera don’t have to be Old Characters, and have Already been shown to be new characters along with returning characters such as The Mayor being Marvin, with that in hand there’s also the dates and the references to old events in the game, so yeah it’s really just Retcon Aaron, and it fits the past games and Books, only problem is Ted not being Sleep Deprived.
strange lance
Ah yes this character that barely did anything is vital for the story
my guy they originally DID stuff for the story
shell gull
everything in the original hn2, all the characters, all the locations, and all t...
They still are, remember, they are all Cultist, and Ted is against them, and Quentin mixed himself into it.
safe charm
It’s kinda boring
teal imp
Imagine if the farmer was just some optional npc with no plot relevance
safe charm
Imo them just all being
strange lance
That was not their original purpose though I'm talking about the original HN2
safe charm
Cultists
shell gull
That was not their original purpose though I'm talking about the original HN2
Still I’m saying all we have to do is Retcon Aaron and it’s problem solved.
strange lance
so you're saying that if they retcon aaron it perfectly fits into the original story
that is all
safe charm
Still I’m saying all we have to do is Retcon Aaron and it’s problem solved.
And change intro
And more
teal imp
The books dont really rely on og hn2 why are you so dead set on everything 1:1 when those stuff might have been cut either way
strange lance
Because the books were literally saying they were connecting to the newest HN games including HE, hnvr, and hn2. They were building up to hn2 that was the entire point
what is so hard to understand
safe charm
Because the books were literally saying they were connecting to the newest HN ga...
True
They were
But unfortunately that didn’t happen
teal imp
Because the books were literally saying they were connecting to the newest HN ga...
I dont think every part of hn2 was vital to old lore
strange lance
You guys need to realize that hn2 does not fit at all with the original story. We know how the original played out and it is nothing alike. You need to change MORE than just Aaron he is the least important thing. You still need the guest established, you need his story plots established and how he ties with Ted and Aaron, you need all the characters to connect to ted and the guest because that was the original intent, you need the town to be hit by a storm and in disrepair cause that part was also vital to the story
you cannot just change one thing
shell gull
that is all
Even if they don’t we Retcon ourselves we’ve done it in the Past and yes it does, Cult is in ruins so try’s to get back on its feet by hiding out in the abandoned Museum, use G.A.C. As last resorts, see the new Folklore Crowman in town as the God they’ve been worshipping, The Guest being smart uses this to its advantage, M.J. Tries to solve this but goes missing, Quentin Comes to town, simply Retcon Aaron, then the story fits yes, everything’s there, town is in renovations after a mystery event which may be the hurricane, The Guest is still his manipulative nature, all that’s missing is just Ted being Sleep Deprived.
strange lance
Nikita himself said everything in hn2 was connected
teal imp
Some stuff could just be done diffrently while still getting the same point across
strange lance
it all meant something
shell gull
it all meant something
Tell me one thing that I said that doesn’t fit at all.
Hurricane fits
Because of renovations
manic dirge
an average lore aruguement in HNG 
strange lance
Even if they don’t we Retcon ourselves we’ve done it in the Past and yes it does...
you do know that the "renovations" are just there for platforming right. They were not there originally and don't make sense anyway cause none of the buildings are in disrepair
teal imp
an average lore aruguement in HNG <:LucyYi:1108397344585678930>
I blame alex and his dumb cartoon
shell gull
Leslie even fits since Newsoms Old Partner got thrown in jail.
manic dirge
I blame alex and his dumb cartoon
same
silver vine
hi
shell gull
you do know that the "renovations" are just there for platforming right. They we...
You can say that about anything.
strange lance
also we already know the cultists were all disbanded by hn2! That was established in the books! It's only in Reset day when they actually come back
strange lance
they do not make sense to be back in hn2
and again the towns folk were not meant to be cultists!
It does not work
stop trying to make excuses to make stuff fit
when it doesn't at all
shell gull
also we already know the cultists were all disbanded by hn2! That was establishe...
And how did they rise back up, Couldn’t HN2 show how they came back, oh wait it does, because there were multiple Cultist and Tavish never got caught.
Remover Nikita said HN2 would explain a bit of RD
It still does
Right here
manic dirge
whos part of the cult in hn2?
manic dirge
All the House AIs except Ted.
so otto is a cultist?
safe charm
Yeah
shell gull
so otto is a cultist?
Yeah.
strange lance
my guy the cultists were not part of hn2 what are you not understanding. They originally had their own secrets that tied back to ted in some way. There was never any cultists involved because the only 2 were captured. The Guest was never a god to the cultists either because the guest is not something directly tied to the cultists. He may be in hn2 NOW but he was not originally. You need to stop applying new hn2's logic and story to the original because again that was NOT the intent
you are mixing stuff up
you wanna know what the books WERE building up to?
Time travel and the nest
that is literally it
the cultists in reset day? they appear on like 1 sentence
they have no importance
I'm not sure those ever were cultists
because they are so insignificant
we were given the things to solve hn2, we know how it would've played out
nothing about new hn2 was ever part of the original
stop connecting them
safe charm
Still gonna do it
manic dirge
Still gonna do it
do it when patch 9 releases -_-
strange lance
There isn't really any use it adding story locations because they already have that all planned out
I told you guys suggesting story changes would not work
because they already know what they're gonna do
with Alex's supervision
and Alex is not gonna let hn2 go back to the original stuff we know that by now
manic dirge
https://discord.com/channels/474299944254308373/1145061308337750017
bro 💀
strange lance
I'm not trying to be mean or anything I'm just trying to say stop wasting your time trying to make hn2 more like the original
Alex is literally part of the story team
manic dirge
https://discord.com/channels/474299944254308373/1145061308337750017
why do you make a thread to add new shit every. single. day!
safe charm
why do you make a thread to add new shit every. single. day!
Idk I like making feedback
strange lance
guestaurant is writing an essay
teal imp
Alex has ruined the story and I have no idea what he is trying to gain from retconning the story people liked
strange lance
I would've been fine with Alex's take on the story if he had just made it separate
that's really all that needed to happen
safe charm
I would've been fine with Alex's take on the story if he had just made it separa...
Exactly
Why couldn’t he have done that I don’t fully understand?
I would still probably watch it
Maybe even enjoy it a lot more
teal imp
The AS could have been an AU but nooooo it just had to be the main timeline
shell gull
my guy the cultists were not part of hn2 what are you not understanding. They or...
Yeah but they still fit, just because it isn’t Nikita’s Original Original intent doesn’t mean you can throw away Puzzle Pieces that still fit, there’s no deeper meaning like VRs ending in HN2, Via why Aaron is the only Problem, Where’s the rundown Homes from the Hurricane: Renovated Homes
How did The Cult appear again in RD: HN2 literally shows that there were more Cult Members which even The Books explained, not everyone was gone, which explains how the Mayor is a Cult Member and didn’t get caught, because he wasn’t Caught he’s literally Marvin, he owns G.A. He’s fat like a Penguin and even waddles like one, sure he isn’t white but one person…Maritza, there was always that infamous Crow God, that didn’t make a lot of sense, but in HN2 it has a purpose of The Cult thinking The Guest is a God and The guest uses this as an advantage, Via the reason why The Cult is roaming in The Town in RD again, maybe because the dismantle Cult has Been slowly rising back up while hiding out in the Abandoned Museum and The Guest is having them do some of its bidding.
The Dates Fit.
The Guest Fits.
All that’s actually really a problem is Aaron and Ted not being sleep deprived, nothing else, I agree that we shouldn’t fit things with HN2 yet and just leave it a Stand Alone, but just because The Old Puzzle Pieces are gone doesn’t mean the New Puzzle Pieces don’t fit, The Only Piece that doesn’t is VR, which can simply be Retconned like we’ve done many times in the Past, even if they don change it we’ve done it, it’s so simple and yet no one takes a chance to look at it.
shell gull
guestaurant is writing an essay
I did.
shell gull
Yeah but they still fit, just because it isn’t Nikita’s Original Original intent...
We even see the Town is more destroyed in The Guest Teaser.
strange lance
Yeah but they still fit, just because it isn’t Nikita’s Original Original intent...
we already know that hn2 is part of the AS story, which does not work with original at all. That should be enough lol
I think you're looking too far into this
strange lance
We even see the Town is more destroyed in The Guest Teaser.
you mean like the 10 props placed on the road with everything else looking perfectly fine
shell gull
we already know that hn2 is part of the AS story, which does not work with origi...
Even it doesn’t fit AS, look at The Dates, we actually already know it’s a Stand Alone.
manic dirge
we already know that hn2 is part of the AS story, which does not work with origi...
hows that even possible? wheres the act 3 house?
strange lance
well you seen sullivester
despite hn2 and the AS being directly connected
they're really not at all
But I dont think alex cares
teal imp
Alex sucks at making lore
strange lance
he's gonna come up with same wack reason
manic dirge
Alex sucks at making lore
frfr
shell gull
you mean like the 10 props placed on the road with everything else looking perfe...
It looks the same as Alpha 2, they just had the hoses a little dirty and then random props on the ground.
shell gull
Here they just have the houses renovated and random props on the ground.
manic dirge
Act 2 wasn’t real
parts of it were
safe charm
parts of it were
Yeah
safe charm
But you know what I mean
strange lance
It looks the same as Alpha 2, they just had the hoses a little dirty and then ra...
alpha 2 was an alpha
it wasn't gonna look like that lmao
none of the buildings were even finished
shell gull
alpha 2 was an alpha
Exactly, so why are we judging how they are adding furnishing that still makes sense with the story.
strange lance
what?
shell gull
I’m not saying they connect
manic dirge
I’m not saying they connect
some parts do
shell gull
But you can see it, I’m just waiting for the Story Expansion.
manic dirge
some parts do
like the police arrival
shell gull
some parts do
Agreed.
Exactly and more.
We have to just see the Story Expansion.
That’s all that matters.
GTG
manic dirge
i hope they add the neighbor driving off to the muesum in patch 9
teal imp
Keiths name being changed back to Newsom is interesting
strange lance
fun fact, Nikita on his hn2 posts used #lets rebuild the town, cause during hn2 guess what the whole town was meant to be in ruin. Nothing like how it is in new hn2 where literally everything is clean and perfect. The scafolding cannot be used as evicdence cause those were literally only placed for the tapes
shell gull
Keiths name being changed back to Newsom is interesting
Ik right, Plus Guest Manipulating, More Run down looks and ETC.
Bye
👋
strange lance
why are people saying that the guest is manipulating Quentin in the new guest teaser video where he attacks him, breaks off the ropes and then just leaves
we know how the guest manipulates that is not is lol
he's just playing with his prey in that video
safe charm
AS lore in hn2 so badly
Like I’m fine with AS as long
As it doesn’t affect any off the games
But it does affect hn2 and I’m not happy with that tbh
strange lance
also if he was manipulating Quentin I don't think holding him in the air and then leaving him alone would work lmao
The Guest gains the trust of the one it manipulates by you know being nice to them, and tricking them
Guest choke holding Quentin in the air and then leaving is not manipulation some of you are in big denial I'm sorry 😭
safe charm
Guest choke holding Quentin in the air and then leaving is not manipulation some...
You’re Probably right😔
I just want the lore
I’m familiar with
safe charm
also if he was manipulating Quentin I don't think holding him in the air and the...
So when
Was AS lore created
I’m trying to pinpoint when
strange lance
Probably After Nikita went on "break" during hn2, which is when new hn2 began and the AS story began
makes the most sense
safe charm
I’m afraid saying I really don’t like AS because I don’t wanna sound mean to the writers or anything
I really don’t blame them at all
strange lance
do not feel bad lol
snow mauve
I’m afraid saying I really don’t like AS because I don’t wanna sound mean to the...
The writers suck anyway
safe charm
and the pacing is awful
That I agree even if it was standalone
snow mauve
So it don't matter
safe charm
That I agree even if it was standalone
Because characters don’t have time to grow
Like they did in the books
snow mauve
What
safe charm
In AS
snow mauve
Clearly you didn't read the books
snow mauve
Right
snow mauve
You said "like the books"
safe charm
Yeah couse in the books
They did have time
To grow
But they can’t in AS because it’s so fast paced
safe charm
Probably After Nikita went on "break" during hn2, which is when new hn2 began an...
So any
Idea why they decided to not make it an AU
If they we’re still gonna change everything
snow mauve
Because Alex wants that
Duh
That's his choice
There's no any reason as to why he thought of that way
snow mauve
Ok and Alex doesn't care
Because why not
That's what he wants
Like there is no why
It is what it is
shell gull
also if he was manipulating Quentin I don't think holding him in the air and the...
At the least sure he isn’t Manipulating him, but he is helping him which is one of the many ways The Guest uses people and does manipulative acts leading to betrayals mainly, we see him save Quentin and when he’s at the doorway even looks back to make sure he’s okay or going to come.
safe charm
At the least sure he isn’t Manipulating him, but he is helping him which is one ...
Hello again
😄
shell gull
Hello again
Hi I just came back again for a bit because I was actually early for leaving.
shell gull
Yeah
shell gull
How dare you come back
Okay.
safe charm
I’m jk
potent oasis
Didn’t someone from tinybuild leave a few days ago?
shell gull
Didn’t someone from tinybuild leave a few days ago?
No?
potent oasis
Oh ok. I was told someone left.
wicked heath
Didn’t someone from tinybuild leave a few days ago?
what an unexpected surprise
silver vine
who left?
safe charm
@shell gull hi
shell gull
Yeah?
safe charm
Could we talk lore lol
shell gull
Could we talk lore lol
Sure for a bit IG
safe charm
Ik
snow mauve
Without Mr. Peterson
safe charm
But where
snow mauve
Anywhere lol
shell gull
Do you Think the neighbor will be in chapter 2
Probably still in The Museum but I doubt as the Cops would be there I’d imagine, he’s still going to have role I think just a sub role now, probably a New Hideout possibly a return for Gray Manor.
snow mauve
Why wouldnt
Because Aaron just wanna stay with his dad now lol
safe charm
Because Aaron just wanna stay with his dad now lol
And?
snow mauve
I think Quentin pretty much understands
safe charm
He shouldnt lol
snow mauve
In the ending
safe charm
Well still wrong he shouldnt be with mr Peterson tbh
snow mauve
Well still wrong he shouldnt be with mr Peterson tbh
Nah
safe charm
Kept in a cage
snow mauve
Let Aaron be with his dad
shell gull
And?
What’s the point, he’s kidnapped, most likely thought to be Missing, and the kid he spent 5 days and longer to try and save has turned on him for his Mentally Insane Dad.
Ted obviously cares for him now so no more cage.
They probably both ran off somewhere.
snow mauve
Why should we care about Aaron anyway
Like who cares lol
Case closed
Quentin learns Mr. Peterson is his father
Discovery done
shell gull
Why should we care about Aaron anyway
Yeah I don’t think the Player would even care about him at that point, shit I want him dead now when I get into Chapter 2.
snow mauve
No need to head back there
safe charm
Yeah I don’t think the Player would even care about him at that point, shit I wa...
Sh1pnut
Is cold
Lol
snow mauve
Yeah I don’t think the Player would even care about him at that point, shit I wa...
Yeah Quentin pretty much now focuses on the cult
safe charm
And guest
safe charm
Anyways so its a wonder how mr Peterson managed to drive his car up the hill to the museum
Lmao
shell gull
Yeah Quentin pretty much now focuses on the cult
Exactly, he’s already been solving a ton about The Cult throughout the game, Via the reason they kidnapped him, just like M.J. Was, this time The Guest is doing one of his “Nice”…Manipulative Acts, so obviously Quentin has a new goal, beat The Cult, obviously that’s gonna cause problems as The Cult is beneficial for The Guest, and The Cult want Quentin dead, so yeah, somethings gonna go down.
snow mauve
Like who wouldn't wanna focus on some god damn cult
Quentin pretty much found out about it
In the Mayor's house
shell gull
Anyways so its a wonder how mr Peterson managed to drive his car up the hill to ...
Well I mean, it isn’t the Canon Layout, but id imagine it’s through the gate behind The Museum.
safe charm
Im a bit more intrested in the guest becouse we know less about him
shell gull
Took some path through there.
safe charm
But cult is cool
shell gull
Im a bit more intrested in the guest becouse we know less about him
Eh not really.
snow mauve
Im a bit more intrested in the guest becouse we know less about him
The guest pretty much is just gonna do his usual kidnapping
Nothing too interesting about him
snow mauve
The guest pretty much is just gonna do his usual kidnapping
And manipulation
safe charm
Nothing too interesting about him
Hes problaby gonna do something more
shell gull
Cult see Guest as God, Guest uses this as benefit, Guest is a Ancient Curse, Curses are Demonic, Demonic is evil, Curses are bad, Guest is Bad, Guest going to do some Bad.
safe charm
Maybe kill cultist
snow mauve
What 💀
snow mauve
The guest is the one who wants to kill Quentin
safe charm
Nah
snow mauve
Not the cultists lol
safe charm
Really?
shell gull
Longer useful
Buddy when is a massive group of half of the Town that has the ability to take control of the Town never not useful.
snow mauve
What
shell gull
Wha
safe charm
Why not kill Quentin
snow mauve
We couldn't understand what you were saying there
shell gull
Why not kill Quentin
I mean, if he’s turning on him like he must would then yeah, all I see is the Boss Fight being against the Cult and a second Faze against The Guest.
safe charm
I mean, if he’s turning on him like he must would then yeah, all I see is the Bo...
That would be cool
shell gull
That would be cool
This time actually being a Cool Boss Fight, I want something like Roxy’s Boss Fight after taking her eyes, where’s she’s fast and just bashes through walls, would be cool in the Catacombs with The Guest.
shell gull
I would like it to be in gaap
Eh yeah.
opal jackal
I don't think Peterson will have a big role in chapter 2
I feel like chapter 2 will be more about the cult and the guest
snow mauve
I mean Mr. Poopyhead has other stuff than just protecting a child
Like some other personal shit
opal jackal
Aaron is the only thing he has left
shell gull
A role in the story anymore in chapter 2
No he still would, just a Sub Role, I don’t see why they would throw him out after that segment, we know The Cult Members in Chapter 1 will still have meaning, now I think it’s about stopping them and not Ted.
snow mauve
Aaron is the only thing he has left
safe charm
Aaron is the only thing he has left
Wrong He still have his car
🧌
The car is more important
opal jackal
Isn't his car broken
shell gull
Nah not that much in hn 2
His Car isn’t mobile.
snow mauve
Not that much?
shell gull
That’s why I’m the Beta he was fixing it.
opal jackal
The car is more important
Nuh uh
snow mauve
Yeah car is yucky
opal jackal
He pushed his car up the hill duh
shell gull
But how did he get
In A2, he pushed his Car to get to place to place, and I mean it’s just shit, it still works I’d imagine just moves like 10 miles per hour unless you shit on it more.
snow mauve
Bro really hates being wrong all the time
That's crazy
shell gull
Bro really hates being wrong all the time
Dat cwazzzy
snow mauve
Seriously tho imagine being this one user named Trinityyy
safe charm
He didn’t, HN2s Map isn’t Canon.
But its a hill
shell gull
It’s a Stand Alone as of now actually so yeah IG
safe charm
In full game
opal jackal
They'll expand the map so
shell gull
Ask the Devs
safe charm
I guess but still weird lol
shell gull
I guess but still weird lol
Also how do you know he drove uphill, he could’ve went around The Town into the back gate.
shell gull
If i remember right
No not really.
snow mauve
If i remember right
Always wrong 🙃
shell gull
Car animation
Maybe because his Wrench is on the 3rd floor now.
safe charm
Maybe because his Wrench is on the 3rd floor now.
Oh
shell gull
Ik but i liked the animation
Yeah it was cool
safe charm
Got a Problem with his lifestyle
Yeah he needs to do more
Its not healthy
Bro doesnt even shower
If we dont throw paint or trash at him
snow mauve
Bro doesnt even shower
You sure?
silver vine
Do you Think the neighbor will be in chapter 2
why would he not
ripe berry
Also how do you know he drove uphill, he could’ve went around The Town into the ...
Am I allowed to say something about this?
Mr. Peterson definitely used the Back Gate, the only other spots would be up wood stairs or over a tree
However the REAL question is how Ted got his car past those Iron Fences around the back of the Museum
Wait a minute, I'm stupid
There's a path on the righthand side of the Museum he could've driven up
but how Ted managed to not hit a single tree after the path ends? No clue lol
ripe berry
Guest and cult seems to be the focus
and Leslie and Nielsen are likely cult members and as I explained evidence from both other timelines puts Ted in Jail around this time
so Police Station, a removed location, gives a reason for them to bring back Ted
teal imp
Do you Think the neighbor will be in chapter 2
honestly It would be a breath of fresh air
especially considering how they butchered the neighbor recently
he has become completely uninteresting
so having an entire part of the game be dedicated about something diffrent would be nice
shell gull
Mr. Peterson definitely used the Back Gate, the only other spots would be up woo...
Mhm.
shell gull
so Police Station, a removed location, gives a reason for them to bring back Ted
That makes sense, but I don’t see why Ted would go back on a Vengeful pa- oh wait right he hates The Cult, we’ll this all seemingly tying together.
silver cargo
I have a prediction for future HN games.
Maybe the newest games (with exeption of HNVR and HE) won't focus on the AS or on the book lore.
I mean HN2 is kinda both, so maybe future games will jusr give hints for both Story's.
It's just a prediction, I could be wrong, correct me if you want.
safe charm
especially considering how they butchered the neighbor recently
Yeah
teal imp
I have a prediction for future HN games.
Maybe the newest games (with exeption o...
alex already said that he wants the AS to form the pipeline for all future projects
which is beyond dumb
tribal talon
I think the cult is a nice fresh idea. Excited to see where it goes.
safe charm
I think the cult is a nice fresh idea. Excited to see where it goes.
The cult is not
New
Not at all
They existed in the books
teal imp
I think the cult is a nice fresh idea. Excited to see where it goes.
its not new
its from the books
doesnt seem like they are gonna do anything particulary new with them
tribal talon
Oh sorry didn't know still haven't bought the books 😂
shell gull
doesnt seem like they are gonna do anything particulary new with them
Other than Guest is their God to them, G.A.C. Are the Main Focus point for them.
glad hornet
vital meteor
Wait there’s books??
tribal talon
Hello, lore-rers! Please remind me, what kind of girl is this? The one that crashed on the attraction? 
teal imp
Hello, lore-rers! Please remind me, what kind of girl is this? The one that cras...
ah yes lucy yi
thin wadi
tribal talon
Lucy yi correct?
muted hornet
I think so.
manic dirge
Hello, lore-rers! Please remind me, what kind of girl is this? The one that cras...
ah yes the lucy yi
from da books
sleek lily
lethal hamlet
Hello, lore-rers! Please remind me, what kind of girl is this? The one that cras...
It's Lucy Ti,a Mya and Maritza's friend,She died on and attraction in the "Golden Payol"
lethal hamlet
Lucy yi correct?
Yep
shell gull
In Old Lore we do have a bit of an Origin of Leslie being Newsoms partner, since Newsoms Old Partner Tapps got locked up, Leslie was transferred as his New Partner, makes sense to me.
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In Old Lore we do have a bit of an Origin of Leslie being Newsoms partner, since...
yeah that makes sence
stiff spire
I agree
hexed turtle
frank hedge
pliant estuary
Hello, lore-rers! Please remind me, what kind of girl is this? The one that cras...
what game is this, why does she look like that
tribal talon
what game is this, why does she look like that
Welcome to Hello Engineer
pliant estuary
Welcome to Hello Engineer
eww, Mya, Maritsa what have they done to you
tribal talon
eww, Mya, Maritsa what have they done to you
hazy slate
Hello, lore-rers! Please remind me, what kind of girl is this? The one that cras...
That's angel and she flew
cobalt axle
Is the Guest from the graphic novel canon to Hello Neighbor? I mean like the abilities and his purpose.
snow mauve
Wonder how they're gonna treat him in AS
thin wadi
Like in SN he can basically fly as an ability
snow mauve
Wonder how they're gonna treat him in AS
Since his book lore got retconned
thin wadi
Like in SN he can basically fly as an ability
He doesn't do this canonically
snow mauve
He doesn't do this canonically
Y'know he could
thin wadi
Since his book lore got retconned
GN2 got retconned?
thin wadi
I thought at least that was still canon
thin wadi
Literally every book we get
Even Bosco bay?
thin wadi
Well it still counts since you said 'every' book
snow mauve
Yeah
thin wadi
He is like uh... demon or
snow mauve
So can we just assume he is like the devil
Nope
thin wadi
Or a manifestation of grief
snow mauve
Honestly I wouldn't mind the guest being a demon
thin wadi
Or a manifestation of grief
I think this is the best way to describe him
snow mauve
As long as it isn't some summonable one
Cuz man that would suck a lot
And just made him boring
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thin wadi
And just made him boring
Unoriginal
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cobalt axle
Well he seems to be showing up at night (HN2)
thin wadi
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Bruh you just sent that message lol
snow mauve
hrrrrr he must need an answer quick
blazing latch
Honestly I wouldn't mind the guest being a demon
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cobalt axle
And he has his own area if I am not wrong
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thin wadi
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Maybe
cobalt axle
Well, the forest protectors DO worship him.
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thin wadi
What I want to know is there might be something about raven brooks itself that is strange, before Mr Peterson was there, before forest protectors, before Mr Peterson's parents
cobalt axle
The Guest takes things away people love, explains why Peterson lost both his wife and daughter.
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thin wadi
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Yes but thats because of luck devices that the clut ala forest protectors use
I'm talking about before it all
blazing latch
The Guest takes things away people love, explains why Peterson lost both his wif...
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pliant estuary
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E.O.M, I'm not explaining what that is ask sh1mp
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cobalt axle
I'm talking about before it all
So we talking around when the town was made?
thin wadi
I'm talking about before it all
In the museum in HN2 the main 'attraction' is the giant bird fossil, which makes me think there has been some ancient creature released to birds and the guest
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thin wadi
That was in raven brooks before all events from the books and games
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thin wadi
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A metal structure that is holding together prices of something
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pliant estuary
In the museum in HN2 the main 'attraction' is the giant bird fossil, which makes...
its not a fossil, its clearly man made
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thin wadi
If you ever go to a museum they make a mental 'skeleton' to hold up things that have many fossils or parts missing
cobalt axle
My main focus is who is helping Peterson. I mean at the end of HN2.
safe charm
True
safe charm
My main focus is who is helping Peterson. I mean at the end of HN2.
Its a cultist
thin wadi
its not a fossil, its clearly man made
My bad I never made it past gerdas bakery
blazing latch
My main focus is who is helping Peterson. I mean at the end of HN2.
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cobalt axle
I guess
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thin wadi
My bad I never made it past gerdas bakery
Haven't 'examined' it
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gray manor
cobalt axle
Isn‘t HN2 a prequel??
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Gray manor
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Gray manor
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pliant estuary
gray manor
Mayak
burnt forge
can you guys tell who is the guest?
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pliant estuary
can you guys tell who is the guest?
An entity of manifestation
cobalt axle
can you guys tell who is the guest?
Some demon creature thing which takes things away people don‘t deserve
pliant estuary
Some demon creature thing which takes things away people don‘t deserve
noooo!!!
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I kinda hope so. GAAP as a location would be awesome
burnt forge
i think pple in raven brooks belive in krows
cobalt axle
Isn‘t act 3 house canon in the show?
burnt forge
when will hn3 COMMING
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snow mauve
Isn‘t act 3 house canon in the show?
Yep
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snow mauve
when will hn3 COMMING
Never
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cobalt axle
Yep
Then he probably went there
Pretty sure the story is continuing with content updates or something
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yes, when in reality he kidnapped 7
blazing latch
yes, when in reality he kidnapped 7
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thin wadi
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The unanswered question we have is what is the cult's motives (other than making themselves lucky with luck devices). What would they want from Aaron
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The unanswered question we have is what is the cult's motives (other than making...
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pliant estuary
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true, but they already use Quentin as a "sacrifice" of sorts, why would they take Aaron
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cobalt axle
Well what we know for sure is
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true, but they already use Quentin as a "sacrifice" of sorts, why would they tak...
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cobalt axle
The guest is their god
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cobalt axle
Quentin is getting sacrificed
thin wadi
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Why though? Is it something they have to do in order to use the luck devices? Does it summon the guest (I hope not)?
I want those answered in hn2
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Why though? Is it something they have to do in order to use the luck devices? Do...
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Why though? Is it something they have to do in order to use the luck devices? Do...
It‘s like every cult ever
thin wadi
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True
cobalt axle
They show respect to their god by sacrificing people
cobalt axle
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That too
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cobalt axle
I think Aaron was meant to be the next guest
blazing latch
I think Aaron was meant to be the next guest
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thin wadi
It‘s like every cult ever
Cultists when they realize there are other religions and they can worship other gods without sacrificing:
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Pretty sure act 3 house if it‘s canon in HN2
Makes the most sense
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If HN2 really is following AS lore than act 3 house HAS to still be fake
cobalt axle
Then wouldn‘t that kinda ruin HN Act 3?
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thin wadi
If HN2 really is following AS lore than act 3 house HAS to still be fake
No way they would add act 3 in hn2
cobalt axle
Act 3 is fake
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teal imp
If HN2 really is following AS lore than act 3 house HAS to still be fake
Nah ted destroys it overnight
cobalt axle
Act 3 is a nightmare
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thin wadi
Nah ted destroys it overnight
He builds it in a day and destroys it in a night
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cobalt axle
I assume HN2 takes place after that
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I assume HN2 takes place after that
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thin wadi
HN1 has no visible story tbh, other than the dream sections and the cardboard cutouts HN1 never really told us anything
cobalt axle
And also how long after HN2 is act 3
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cobalt axle
Ted might be dead by the time act 3 takes place
snow mauve
Ted might be dead by the time act 3 takes place
He did die but we're not sure about when it takes place
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thin wadi
Gn2
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cobalt axle
I think Ted moved towns
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thin wadi
I think Ted moved towns
He keeps running, first time he moved it was to escape the disaster in germany
Honestly wouldn't be too surprised if he goes out of town
ripe berry
He did die but we're not sure about when it takes place
I know it's not canon per say but the Guidebook does in fact imply his death has already happened by Act 3
thin wadi
There aren't many other places in raven brooks to hide
blazing latch
He keeps running, first time he moved it was to escape the disaster in germany
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ripe berry
Because in act 3 his house is down
Retcons happened
thin wadi
mm
ripe berry
The House no longer was burnt down
thin wadi
Retcons happened
Canon events get broken
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ripe berry
Unless the thing using his body (The Guest) in Reset Day rebuilt his house in such a way it looks like it was never burnt down and has been sitting there for ~40 years abandoned
cobalt axle
We can all agree Hello Neighbor 1 is the final game of the story
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ripe berry
But back when HN1 First released you can actually find out where Mr. Peterson moved to after the House Fire
thin wadi
We can all agree Hello Neighbor 1 is the final game of the story
HN1 is in the middle
ripe berry
Since in a Easter Egg he's sitting on top of a building in the City and you can see him with binoculars
thin wadi
1 - H&S
2 - HN1
3 - SN
4 - HE
5 - S&R
? - HN2
cobalt axle
Since in a Easter Egg he's sitting on top of a building in the City and you can ...
Ok so he‘s not dead (in act 3 at least)
ripe berry
Act 3 is near the end but there's still like one book that takes place after it (Reset Day) and the conclusion was never given
thin wadi
1 - H&S
2 - HN1
3 - SN
4 - HE
5 - S&R
? - HN2
Is this timeline (for the games) correct?
ripe berry
Is this timeline (for the games) correct?
For the most part yes
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cobalt axle
We need MatPat for this
thin wadi
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Hn1 is loose, different acts are at different parts of the timeline
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thin wadi
SN is the kids planning to break in and save nicky
HE is them deciding to win the inventor contest thingy instead
S&R they finally break in the neighbor's house
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thin wadi
Hmmm
ripe berry
To be more specific:
1 - HNHS/HND Flashbacks
2 - HN1 Act 1
3 - SN
4 - HE
5 - HNVR: S&R
6 - HN1 Act 2
7 - HN2
8 - HN1 Act 3/Finale
9 - HND
ripe berry
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na
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ripe berry
HE works better between SN and HNVR
and Nicky is still missing in HE so it ain't after HN2
cobalt axle
I can assume most of the enemies in HN2 are dead in act 3
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cobalt axle
Like the hunter and perhaps the mayor
ripe berry
and Nicky is still missing in HE so it ain't after HN2
HE can technically fall before SN but it makes more sense after
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Gerda is the youngest one we've seen so far in HN2 I'd say
cobalt axle
Peterson is probably in his 60‘s or so
ripe berry
so Baker is probably alive
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thin wadi
Gerda is the youngest one we've seen so far in HN2 I'd say
Isn't she canonically the crow kid or something?
ripe berry
Peterson is probably in his 60‘s or so
During HNHS Peterson is 49
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Isn't she canonically the crow kid or something?
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ripe berry
Isn't she canonically the crow kid or something?
It's unclear which kid but the most likely one is Alien Kid, Crow/Guest Kid seems to have never been found
and Pumpkin Kid is likely dead
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True. Anytime he tries to sprint in SN: