lore-discussion

[ripe berry]

and it had AS Pilot Clips

[silver vine]

https://tenor.com/view/himym-barney-suicide-gif-20743087

[ripe berry]

I also think the video tried to say the Adult Nicky in Act 3 was Nicky's adopted "Dad" or some shit

[opal steeple]

adopted dad..?

[ripe berry]

because they labelled Mr. Peterson as his actual dad

and that the reason he's(Mr. Peterson's Son's) "missing" is a identity change to join the Roth Family or something

Again I don't think they were over 7 years old when they made the theory

and had clearly never read a single HN Book

[silver vine]

can you send where Alex posted that?

[unkempt sleet]

I'm pretty sure he's just joking...

[silver vine]

right

[hazy slate]

is he though?

I can already feel the world class writers making that part of the animated series

[silver vine]

Guest being Roger is just so messed up

Peterson said that guest is playing mind games with him and many others in town

so, I dont think its his dad

[teal imp]

Imagine if Roger is non canon and ted is the son of a demon

That would genuinely be awful

[silver vine]

well, HN2 files have Roger's photo

[teal imp]

Hn2 says its in 1996

[silver vine]

Idk why we are just refering to his parents as just Adelle and Roger

[teal imp]

Hn2 doesnt really connect to the AS well

[silver vine]

they are Dr. Adelle and Dr.Roger Peterson

they have doctorates

but we never call them as Dr.

[hazy slate]

I honestly think HN2 is it's own thing that doesn't follow any lore

(Unless my countless, insane crackpot gregbot level theories with no evidence created from denial are correct)

[ripe berry]

Unless OUR countless, insane crackpot gregbot level theories with no evidence created from denial are correct

[hazy slate]

true

[unkempt sleet]

Oh come on
Do you really think there's a possibility of Guest being Ted's father in AS

AS might be shit but its not that shit

[shell gull]

No, what?, in the AS lore He’s a demon.

[ripe berry]

Mr. Peterson is a demi-god

or whatever they're called

[unkempt sleet]

I am replying to RavenBrooksCitizen
I know that

[shell gull]

Ok

[ripe berry]

(imagine if that's the case tho, I'd have a good reason to fricking envy the AS)

[shell gull]

Yeah

I’m so bored

And don’t feel like discussing lore

[hazy slate]

You have caught the depkis virus

go rest

[shell gull]

Hgddhkkmnvxzssrhionbh

[ripe berry]

87h9bifjijgtrfuidohfsgfdrkn,b gunyfkrf b

[hazy slate]

fhwoifjwoifhejdoeljew?

[ripe berry]

sye, trbmejindjibghufkjwdnFHYhd.

[hazy slate]

hideh9duoqoo, i0douj9f29o2josjaojoa.

[unkempt sleet]

Very good lore you guys are discussing

[ripe berry]

Agreed

[silver vine]

anyway

unlucky coins

[ripe berry]

No you've ruined my luck nooo!

[shell gull]

Also if people didn’t know, Nikita’s dream for the Cartoon show, was for it to not have a kid rating mostly, and for it to be a serious Dark toned show based around the books and novels for those who didn’t want to read the books and such, while having the writers for the books and novels lead the writing.

[strange lance]

Bikita

[shell gull]

Blex

Beans

Bob

Bobby

Born

Borne

Blown

Blowing

Blob

[ripe berry]

FNaF!

[hazy slate]

shame it got turned into something garbage

[shell gull]

Yeah

Also

[silver vine]

the current AS doesnt have kid rating tho

[shell gull]

As we know you can have multiple Manifestation, seen with Nicky, and you can even have different types, but what if they get into an argument, like there after the person and get in a fight who gets them and end up BSing the entire time.

[shell gull]

I meant tone.

[silver vine]

ah

[shell gull]

Like actually be a serious show

[grave kayak]

and i am still so sad about that

[silver vine]

the og idea for the AS was that it was supposed to be non linear

they were discussing about that in the BTS video

I've wrote more on it in HNVR chat

[shell gull]

Also I would’ve loved to see Canon Lore Ted, imagine just seeing that version of him.

Ted is on my Top 5 most menacing characters

[hazy slate]

Tom tom the piper's son..

[shell gull]

Oh god

[silver vine]

if that was in the AS, it would've been great

[grave kayak]

YES THAT dude theres so many scenes in even just the first three books that add so much detail to the franchise and im so mad they just cut it all

[silver vine]

the OG cartoon was supposed to follow book lore

[shell gull]

You could tell in the books how damn scared Nicky was of Ted, from what I remember In the books he was even scared of just staring in the direction of him that it would make his heart pump, shows how good of a character Ted was.

[hazy slate]

thankfully, HNVR makes books canon again, but it's unknown how long it'll be before it gets retconned by something too.

[silver vine]

each episode was supposed have a different story taking place in different points in time

and they all were connected

[shell gull]

It doesn’t matter, we know damn well Books are canon, Alex’s fantasy land won’t get to us.

[silver vine]

that idea of the AS was amazing

[shell gull]

Too bad Alex came along

[silver vine]

THAT was Alex's plan

both Alex and Carly's plan

[shell gull]

I especially feel bad for Carly, years of writing just to go down the drain for some trash kids show.

[hazy slate]

mR. PeTeRsOn iS a KiLlEr!!!1111!111!!!11

[grave kayak]

honestly the books were just astounding to me, they found a perfect balance for the horror aspect of the franchise, and not even gonna lie to u, one of my friends cried at one of the extracts i showed them

[shell gull]

Lol

[silver vine]

but man of action came along and turned AS into a generic linear cartoon show revolving around a set of protagonists

[shell gull]

Yeah

I loved the ending in each trilogy

[hazy slate]

they ruined ben 10 and now hello neighbor

[shell gull]

Except for Sequels since it never got finished

[silver vine]

OG ben 10 is a masterpiece tho

[hazy slate]

it is

I love that show

[grave kayak]

somebody tell carly anne west to pick up the pencil again i love the books so much

[shell gull]

Specifically with Aaron’s, with Norman Darby literally knowing Nicky was gonna be Aaron’s last hope.

[hazy slate]

I really wish they finished Piper's trilogy before rebooting the franchise

[silver vine]

Carly described the lore of HN was like a ball, and the cartoon would poke the ball at different sides from different angles

I liked the idea of a non linear cartoon show

[shell gull]

And helped him by telling him to trust him, that’s why Aaron became friends with him in the first place, he was his only hope.

[silver vine]

I miss that

[grave kayak]

i just realized one of the reasons the books must've scared me so much sometimes is because carly worked on the fetch fnaf book, aka the only one that scared me out of reading it

[shell gull]

I hate auto correct

[shell gull]

Yeah she’s good at Horror

Also

Teds character was so good, especially how they described his strength, he was strong enough to punch holes in walls.

[grave kayak]

he was absolutely terrifying in the books. in the show he just screams

[silver vine]

the story of the books were phenomenal, it would've been really hard to recreate that in animation, but the idea of a non linear cartoon show could give rise to so many different stories in Raven Brooks, Idk why they didnt stick with it and instead decided to reboot everything and start fresh

[shell gull]

I liked how Nicky was in HN1 a guy with Trauma, hating things, but when he gets over his Trauma he realised the bad guy he sees wasn’t so bad, then you have HND where now he’s interested to fix his Dissociative Amnesia.

[shell gull]

I would’ve liked that, each episode switching up on the different characters before connecting.

[hazy slate]

hence the title welcome to Raven Brooks

[grave kayak]

the franchise has its ups and downs but i think stuff like the books and diaries are some of the better content (atleast to me)

[shell gull]

Anyways I’m out

[hazy slate]

I like the mysterious vibe diaries has

[silver vine]

like, Alex said that ep 1 would be the story of the pilot, ep 2 would be the intro of HN2, and like ep 9 would be like a flashback to the GAAP opening day and the roller coaster incident

[shell gull]

Before I go, I have to say, Diaries has the best OST out of all of the games IMO.

[silver vine]

like, the idea of each episode having different story was unique

[hazy slate]

Yeah, Listen to how mysterious this is

[grave kayak]

yeah, and it'd be amazing for lore because they all still tie in, and it's like we're piecing together the pieces just like nicky or quentin

[hazy slate]

really dyno?

[safe charm]

So is sn old or new lore?

[hazy slate]

could have used some of these kids from HE

as characters

[teal imp]

what the heck

[hazy slate]

yeah, there is a bunch of random missing kids in hello engineer

[teal imp]

huh

[strange lance]

these were all scrapped, they left them in wild west level 1 though

[teal imp]

gamer Aaron

[strange lance]

they all got replaced with the hn2 posters

[teal imp]

this is what happens to him after hnvr

he becomes a gamer

[pale urchin]

in old lore, he dies somehow

[safe charm]

Hi

[ripe berry]

So as I started explaining

[safe charm]

So are we allowed to talk guest lore

In here

[ripe berry]

It seems weather is the cause of most of the odd paranormal behaviors in RB

[ripe berry]

As long as it's not major HNVR Spoilers

[safe charm]

Hm

You think weather

Summoned the guest

[ripe berry]

It's how the Luck Devices are Powered, How Time Loops Work, how to open portals between universes

But at the same time

[safe charm]

Maybe hes from another realm

[ripe berry]

The one thing that confirmably ain't tied to weather?

Manifestations/Emotion Entities

[safe charm]

How do we know that

[ripe berry]

Or at least there's little evidence they are

[safe charm]

Its mostly

Speculation

From us fans

[ripe berry]

Since they're power levels don't seem to be controlled by Weather, and they don't seem to require weather

It's highly unlikely they're tied to weather

[safe charm]

However i still think guest

Is a visitor

From another

Realm

[ripe berry]

(Guest seems to be a emotion entity and Thing is emotion entity)

[safe charm]

Thing defenitly guest i see more feeding of emotions

But

He might be

Lol

We are confused

As hens

[ripe berry]

lol

[safe charm]

The lore

Is so confusing

With 2

Different timelines

[ripe berry]

and the Unlucky Coins don't seem to require weather either

and yes that's their canon name

HNVR Achievements confirm it

[safe charm]

Hm

What did alex mean mayak

[ripe berry]

Mr. Peterson casually collecting coins that are meant to give him Bad Luck:

[safe charm]

Is the key

To everything

Like its the at the center

Of the story

Isnt

It just a weather

[ripe berry]

As I've explained Weather seems to tie some of the biggest anomalies in the HN Universe together

[safe charm]

Station

To watch weather

[ripe berry]

A weather station with a device Ted implanted to control weather

[safe charm]

Oh

[ripe berry]

This is literally a key plot point to GN2

(granted it's only implanted shortly before GN2 as the Flood is the test run of it)

but still

Mayak is the key because Weather is what ties the anomalies together

[safe charm]

Oh ok

[ripe berry]

If you control the Weather you can control the anomalies

because the Guest COULD be more powerful when Ted does the flood

so therefore that'd even tie the manifestations to weather

[safe charm]

Yea

I think

Weather coused

Manifestationen

In a tape

You can hear guest while weather it almost sound like hes growing

[ripe berry]

I mean hell even the Thing could be tied to weather

[ripe berry]

The Thing's first confirmed canon appearance chronologically was SN

When a Roohocan zee Rapouching the teecee

I mean

When a Hurricane is approaching the City

as the Warning Posters show

Also looking at the timeline there ain't no way the Hurricane hasn't hit during HNVR but has hit during HN2

So we all agree SN is before HE right

Then in HE when Sandbox starts the Dream Car is already destroyed

Weeks have to have passed

I'd say about a month or so

then HNVR happens with no weather issues

then ~12 Hours later HN2 Happens

Your telling me it takes over a month for a Hurricane that is close enough to cause a evacuation warning to reach RB only for it to just so happen to hit in a ~12 hour time period between Act 2 Ending and HN2 Beginning?

[silver vine]

theres a difference

the thing is confirmed, while the guest is not

[ripe berry]

Yeah probably should've worded it better

[silver vine]

now ok?

[ripe berry]

Fixed it

[ripe berry]

The Timeline for the Hurricane just doesn't make any sense to me here

(granted we don't know how much time passed during HE outside the Sandbox Realm)

[strange lance]

the hurricane just so happened to hit the second hnvr was over

[silver vine]

no, I dont

SN could be after HE

[ripe berry]

Oh boy HERE we go Bro doesn't understand simple timeline details

[silver vine]

since, the kids abandoned Nicky at the end of the books, they didnt give a shit about him and went on to build cars

[ripe berry]

The pillows in the Inventor's Club Van prove the Rescue Squad exists

In some form at least

[silver vine]

they could just be friends

[ripe berry]

That's what has to happen for it to Work

[teal imp]

@strong sparrow can we umm get a source cause I doubt alex even has a tumblr

[strange lance]

Look, in SN they think about rescuing Nicky but instead imagined stuff about rockets, then in HE they ignore Nicky and go to HE, get stuck in the sandbox because of karma, and escape via a rocket like they wanted to in SN, once they escape they finally decide to save Nicky in hnvr

[ripe berry]

But it doesn't make sense mapping it on a timeline

[silver vine]

and then they go to the park and get trapped in sandbox realm and they realize that Peterson IS sus and they plan to break in and break in and save Nicky

that is just my personal perspective

cuz they betrayed Nicky like heck in book 3

[teal imp]

talk about procrastinating

[silver vine]

they didnt procrastinate

they just didnt want to

they were just planning for fun ig

[ripe berry]

Yep this is how I view it

[teal imp]

lets think about saving our friend!
proceeds to think about launching a rocket out of mr peterson`s house instead

[silver vine]

thats prob why I think they imagined huge mansions and rockets

[strange lance]

SN is about being cowards, HE is about karma and guilt, and hnvr is about finally doing the right thing

[teal imp]

btw what do the SN kids even do in the books?

[strange lance]

the rescue squad trilogy

[silver vine]

cuz they just didnt want to break in

[silver vine]

I agree

[silver vine]

you dont want to know

[teal imp]

really cool tbh

[teal imp]

ummm I do

[silver vine]

they did Nicky dirty

[strange lance]

I find it funny how the rescue squad have a whole trilogy of games and Nicky has like 2

[teal imp]

I know but can that be elaborated on?

hnd aint even out

[silver vine]

talk of Ivan betraying the gang in the AS?

[teal imp]

tho nicky has the benefit of being the hn protagonist

[silver vine]

the entire gang betrayed Nicky in book 3

[teal imp]

how

betray is a strong word

[silver vine]

it sure is

[teal imp]

I thought they abandoned him

[silver vine]

they betrayed and then abandoned him

[teal imp]

how did they betray him?

[silver vine]

they are partly at fault at his kidnapping at the hands of Peterson

[teal imp]

and im surprised they even bother to come to save nicky

[silver vine]

its a long long long story spanning the entire book

[silver vine]

thats cuz of guilt

[teal imp]

they must have felt guilty

[silver vine]

thats why I like the books

while in the AS everyone are good friends and Ivan is working for Peterson

[teal imp]

ok so
jekrs: enzo, trinity, maritza
chill people IG: Delroy, Finch and Ivan

[silver vine]

Delroy, Finch and Ivan were never in the books

[teal imp]

thats why they are chill

[unkempt sleet]

The "chill" people werent even in the books...

[teal imp]

they didnt betray their friend

and are most likely just neighborhood kids wanting to help out

[unkempt sleet]

They just spawn out of nowhere in the timeline...

[teal imp]

umm no?

[snow mauve]

Yes

[silver vine]

yes

[teal imp]

Ivan at least doesnt

[snow mauve]

He still does

[silver vine]

in the AS that is

[teal imp]

HE is bassically an introduction to him ig

[snow mauve]

Cuz he never showed up in the books

[snow mauve]

How

[unkempt sleet]

He spawns in HE, the others spawns in SN...

[silver vine]

in the AS they are properly established, but Finch and Delroy are sidelined like heck

[unkempt sleet]

Finch and Delroy

[teal imp]

he is part of the school club and perhaps sees mr peterson for the first time

[silver vine]

while in the old lore, they just spawn into the timeline

[snow mauve]

Even though in the books never introduced him

[silver vine]

I doubt Nicky even knows them

[teal imp]

my boy delroy deserved better man

[silver vine]

true

Delroy really is one of the most underrated characters

[ripe berry]

Since when has everyone agreed HE is before SN

[teal imp]

tbh Im fine with them just being neighborhood kids wanting to help

[silver vine]

along with Diane and thing

[silver vine]

Idk

[ripe berry]

I thought everyone agreed it was after

[unkempt sleet]

Delroy, Finch and Ivan: "Yay, We saved our friend!"
Nicky: "Who are you guys?"

[teal imp]

SN is weird

[snow mauve]

Tbh idek where it fits the timeline

[teal imp]

https://tenor.com/view/wh-gif-4365587

hnvr ending

tbh I wish books bothered to introduce the other 3 kids

[safe charm]

I think you dont care

[teal imp]

its weird how they only did half

[silver vine]

Ivan and Delroy have connection to Nicky in the AS, but poor Delroy is super sidelined

[safe charm]

If you been

Stuck in a bassement

[silver vine]

well, the book characters were created first

[safe charm]

For that long

Lmao

[unkempt sleet]

I am also surprised Maritza, Trinity and Enzo joined a Engineering club in HE, after what happened in Buried Secrets...

[silver vine]

and the SN characters were based on them

[snow mauve]

Meanwhile Finch

[teal imp]

look whatever the AS does with delroy and nicky Ill probs just headcanon it into the book timeline

[silver vine]

did you forget that they CREATED the engineering club in book 3?

[snow mauve]

Which idek how she gets involved with the gang

[strange lance]

Finch and Delroy were gonna be in HE but were unfortunately cut

[teal imp]

the neighbor didnt want to buy her cookies so she was pissed off

[unkempt sleet]

They literally dumped Nicky with the engineering club

[silver vine]

they dumped Nicky's EMU and went for Trinity's CROW

[unkempt sleet]

But CROW wasnt even about engineering

[silver vine]

yes, CROW is the official name of the inventor's club in the books

[silver vine]

it was

[unkempt sleet]

No no no

[silver vine]

yes

[teal imp]

and alex made her the protagonist in the AS

[snow mauve]

Nicky was like "F that I'm going to find Aaron!"

[unkempt sleet]

Thats not true

[teal imp]

very cool

[silver vine]

reread book 3

[strange lance]

look at how smug they all are, little do they know what's coming

[teal imp]

they had to change her entire personality and she still isnt likeable

[unkempt sleet]

Let me send the proof

[snow mauve]

Mr. Apple on his way to share proof

[teal imp]

me when my friend gets kidnapped

[snow mauve]

Nintendo Switch

[unkempt sleet]

CROW was something about social works or something

[ripe berry]

But it's not-

[unkempt sleet]

It wasnt an engineering club

[strange lance]

I wonder where I should create my secret dimension

[snow mauve]

Hush

[ripe berry]

It's not a Nintendo Switch

[snow mauve]

Oh yeah mb

[twin sable]

poo

[snow mauve]

It's the Nintendo Wii

[silver vine]

Creating Responsibly Outsourced Work

CROW

[snow mauve]

They Crow

[twin sable]

👏

lore chat goin insane as usal

[silver vine]

responsibly outsourced work = building cars

[ripe berry]

THEYCROW no they fricking ain't

[unkempt sleet]

"human rights organisation"

[snow mauve]

Damn

Poor quality

And ugly lighting

👏

[unkempt sleet]

Maritza literally said we dont want to tinker with robots when dumping EMU

@silver vine

CROW isnt an engineering club

[ripe berry]

me when the me when the

[strange lance]

I wouldn't mind living in the sandbox, it's looks pretty cool. Just need food and entertainment, also yes this is the fg sandbox map

from the demo files

pretty messy

[ripe berry]

I love living in Pink Void

[teal imp]

is the demo sandbox entirely diffrent or just a small part of it?

[strange lance]

the giant snake

[ripe berry]

snake lore

[unkempt sleet]

They literally dumped Nicky's Engineering club EMU for an another themed club, then returned to an Engineering club in HE after Nicky got missing

[strange lance]

placeholder snake from devlog

[snow mauve]

Pretty purple

[ripe berry]

ourple guy!

[thin wadi]

What book is that

[safe charm]

So is he still in early access?

[unkempt sleet]

Buried Secrets

[ripe berry]

3

[thin wadi]

I don't remember that

[snow mauve]

Book tree

[thin wadi]

Its been a while though

[strange lance]

no it's not out yet

[ripe berry]

Tree Book

[thin wadi]

I might as well re read the books

[strange lance]

only some people have the demo

[safe charm]

Is it canon to old lore

Or new

[strange lance]

old

entirely

[safe charm]

Oh

[unkempt sleet]

I did that before HNVR came out, So theyre fresh in my mind

[snow mauve]

Victory

[strange lance]

here's the rocket cutscene audio of them escaping the sandbox in a rocket

[safe charm]

I literaly listened to them yesterday again

[ripe berry]

Rocet moment

[safe charm]

Damn they are so good

[ripe berry]

guys remember the rocet event

[strange lance]

they finally achieved their dream

of flying in a rocket

[ripe berry]

this is it now

Feel old yet?

[thin wadi]

Erm... SN rocket event

[safe charm]

Is sn new or old lore?

Hm

[thin wadi]

Old

I think

[ripe berry]

BOTH

[snow mauve]

Og

😎

[ripe berry]

SN was old lore

[snow mauve]

Victory

[unkempt sleet]

SN is mostly just a planning phase or something

[ripe berry]

Then due to a "Lore Change" a new kid is being added

[snow mauve]

Then we got AS which is SN

But act 3 edition

[ripe berry]

the Lore Change is likely new lore

[thin wadi]

Hmmm

[unkempt sleet]

It fits the both lore, because most things in SN isnt real

[thin wadi]

Imagination

[unkempt sleet]

Yea

[safe charm]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-squarepants-spongebob-imagination-rainbow-happy-gif-4596954

[snow mauve]

Ahem, Animated Series

It do be real now

[ripe berry]

I was about to say someone get the imagination GIF

[ripe berry]

MarEaster

[unkempt sleet]

SN is literally just kids breaking into Teds house, Its nothing special
It wouldnt even matter if it wasnt canon or not, its not a big deal

[snow mauve]

Also rip mouseflash

He died in a mouse trap

[thin wadi]

Why do they keep getting hurt so badly

[strange lance]

yep

[thin wadi]

They have no plot armor

[snow mauve]

It's so god damn funny

I love it

[strange lance]

why is she just screaming into the air, pull the trap off idiot

[thin wadi]

It doesn't make sense, but it is kinda funny

[snow mauve]

Let these hideous characters suffer

[snow mauve]

Well it's the animated series you're looking at

So

[thin wadi]

True

[snow mauve]

Everything makes no sense

[ripe berry]

https://tenor.com/view/big-boss-the-boss-metal-gear-solid3-snake-eater-snake-gif-19627120

[unkempt sleet]

I think its supposed to be a still shot, judging by the Ted chasing Ivan and Enzo

[snow mauve]

Maybe she stepped on a beartrap?

Or idk

Also didn't Alex said something about someone stepping on a beartrap?

[strange lance]

also why is the mouse trap just floating on her chest

it's not even on the right side

[snow mauve]

You're flying to heaven

[thin wadi]

Hell||o neighbor||

[desert portal]

HELP

[strange lance]

I love the sandbox

Ted was very nice at making it look pretty

[snow mauve]

Hn2 but better

[strange lance]

such a nice guy

[thin wadi]

The trees are weird because of how they overlap

[strange lance]

yeah the leaves are just flat planes

[thin wadi]

Other than that its my favorite HN environment

[strange lance]

get tb riga to work on hn2 please

they go hard with environments

[snow mauve]

: D

[strange lance]

wow they just really did not care for aaron

[snow mauve]

Yep

Nicky is the main protagonist

So

Literally the children's fan:

[strange lance]

Nobody was grateful for Aaron, no one deserved a good friend like him, too bad he got taken away because of that

[unkempt sleet]

I think that was obvious from the end of the Aaron Trilogy

[teal imp]

Nicky was in the basement for 2 months

[snow mauve]

Even Nicky just forget about him

[teal imp]

I wouldnt blame him for celebrating his escape

[unkempt sleet]

I dont think Nicky would forget Aaron that easily though

[teal imp]

who says he forgot about Aaron?

[strange lance]

He clearly did because in HND he looks at Aaron's photo like "oh shoot Aaron what happened to him"

[teal imp]

the kid just escaped his neighbor`s basement he has the right to be happy

[unkempt sleet]

He entered the basement for Aaron in the first place

[teal imp]

|| ||

thats literally the last time he sees him

[snow mauve]

😄

[strange lance]

I can forgive Nicky for wanting to forget, I would too

I wouldn't want to think about that again

[unkempt sleet]

Depkis not sending random AS screenshots in the middle of an conversation: impossible

[silver vine]

ok then

[snow mauve]

Mr. Apple minding his own business: impossible

[teal imp]

tbh if ted was doing this to Nicky it would be funnier to me

[silver vine]

why did they later join inventors club

[unkempt sleet]

Thats what im saying

They dumped Nicky's for an another club, then joined an engineering club after he got missing

[snow mauve]

Hehe dump

[strange lance]

They made the inventor's club themselves

[teal imp]

feels like they did that just to spite him

[strange lance]

it's not like the AS where they join it

[unkempt sleet]

Literally

[strange lance]

also they've been in their new club for a while now so it seems like the second Nicky went missing they made the new club

[teal imp]

does HE and hnvr redeem them tho?

[strange lance]

which is funny

[snow mauve]

🤯

[strange lance]

HE does not, hnvr does

[unkempt sleet]

Not in my eyes

[strange lance]

because at least in hnvr they tried

they still failed

[teal imp]

tbh

[strange lance]

but they tried

[teal imp]

if they didnt break in

[silver vine]

but now they changed the story it seems

[unkempt sleet]

They couldve saved Nicky before he got trapped in the basement...

[teal imp]

||Aaron wouldnt have went out to save everyone||

[snow mauve]

dot dot dot

🙌

[teal imp]

||also Trinity also helped Aaron out a bit||

[unkempt sleet]

random AS screenshot

[teal imp]

nicky wouldnt be out of the basement if it wasnt for the rescue squad

also who the hell is Ivan and why does he not do anything the ENTIRE game

[unkempt sleet]

He wouldnt be in there if they believed him

[strange lance]

I like the detail of the washing machine in hnvr having the broken inside to show where the basement used to be, but it was walled off

[snow mauve]

How to scare a Mr. Apple

[unkempt sleet]

Oohh im so scared

Very scary

[safe charm]

Now time for something terifying

https://tenor.com/view/puppy-love-hi-dont-leave-cute-adorable-gif-12851514

[strong sparrow]

Instructions unclear, I scared a mr banana

[snow mauve]

HN2 beta Washing Machine:

[strange lance]

didn't have an inside and was cut anyway lol

[snow mauve]

True

But it exists at least

[safe charm]

Weird that Myas grave

Is missing lmao

[unkempt sleet]

No Mya's grave for us

[snow mauve]

Yesss

[teal imp]

alex`s last words before hibernating

[silver vine]

yes Mya's grave is apparantly missing in HNVR

fresh memes

too fresh

[teal imp]

its sorta there in hnvr

[silver vine]

where

[teal imp]

under the garage

[thin wadi]

Maybe that's part of his "curse"
Can't even keep friends

[teal imp]

theres an entire place dedicated to her

[silver vine]

thats her memorial

[unkempt sleet]

It looks more like a shrine than a grave

[silver vine]

not grave dingus

[teal imp]

its likely she is buried nearby

[silver vine]

unlikely

she wasnt buried in the backyard in the books

[snow mauve]

He finally notice guys!

[unkempt sleet]

Where was she buried in the books

[silver vine]

noone knows

[teal imp]

I gotta love how the AS wants us to take the breakdown in the AS seriously but I cant because of goofy it looks

[unkempt sleet]

The thing buried in the backyard was the tapes

İn the books

[snow mauve]

Shadow man!!!

[unkempt sleet]

Then where the hell Ted buried Mya

[teal imp]

what

if

he didnt

[snow mauve]

House

[unkempt sleet]

Then what did he do with the body

[snow mauve]

Eat it up

[teal imp]

https://tenor.com/view/dumpster-man-throw-out-trash-gif-14761446

[unkempt sleet]

Depkis supporting cannibalism i see

[strange lance]

The thing under the garage is just a shrine yeah

[snow mauve]

https://tenor.com/view/joke-jk-penguin-laugh-its-was-a-joke-gif-14574338

Smh my head

[unkempt sleet]

No shit, really?

[silver vine]

but first, she was buried in the backyard, then she was buried at the park, then, we dont know where he took her

[trim wasp]

Was maya a guest at some point, her doll looks alot like how aarons is?

[snow mauve]

Yes shit 💩

[strange lance]

The grave is in the backyard by the tree. Flowers are growing out of it too

[unkempt sleet]

Mya was also buried in the backyard in Hide and Seek

[strange lance]

How sad

[silver vine]

in HNVR?

[strange lance]

Yes

[silver vine]

can you send a pic?

[unkempt sleet]

Oh, so its there

[strange lance]

Yeah

[teal imp]

ted has a new favorite child

[strange lance]

I'll get a pic

[teal imp]

I hope nothing bad happens to hi-

[teal imp]

no way better call saul refference!!!

[ripe berry]

Better Call Quentin

[teal imp]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/787355342534213652/1106192476630417469/speed.gif

[snow mauve]

https://tenor.com/view/hello-neighbor2-hello-neighbor-quentin-meme-dance-gif-23117080

[teal imp]

might buy the deluxe bundle

so I can flood the library

[snow mauve]

do it

[strange lance]

[snow mauve]

Oooh

Flowers

[unkempt sleet]

Thats cool

[ripe berry]

Mya Lore

[strange lance]

The flowers are sweet

[snow mauve]

Miaaaa!!!!

[unkempt sleet]

So she's buried there

[strange lance]

She is at peace

[unkempt sleet]

But no grave stone

[snow mauve]

No shit, really?

[teal imp]

the only time the price will be somewhat reasonable

[snow mauve]

do it

[teal imp]

I gotta wait a bit

[silver vine]

buy it

[teal imp]

no shit

[unkempt sleet]

That was literally what we were arguing about when you were sending random things

[snow mauve]

Haha I love shits

But there is no shit

[teal imp]

there has never been a version of her grave with a tombstones

[silver vine]

SN:

[unkempt sleet]

Technically true

[silver vine]

...

Secret Neighbor has left the chat

[snow mauve]

Meanwhile HN1 had something buried in the backyard:

[teal imp]

what did nicky see ted bury here?

tbh I really like this cover

[silver vine]

nothing

he was filling an empty grave shaped hole

[unkempt sleet]

Yea

[teal imp]

wait his appears to be in nicky`s yard

why the hell is ted digging in nicky`s yard

[silver vine]

but its Peterson's backyard

[unkempt sleet]

I dont think it is Nickys yard

[teal imp]

lo-lore

[snow mauve]

Classic Mr. Peterson

[silver vine]

and hes filling an empty hole there

[unkempt sleet]

He never dug Nicky's yard in the books

[teal imp]

you can see ted`s house across the street

[ripe berry]

The art ain't the most accurate to the book

[silver vine]

Idk why hes filling an empty hole

[unkempt sleet]

Its probably just an artistic choice to make the house look far away

[teal imp]

wow what a nice guy he filled up an empty hole so his neighbor`s dont have to

[snow mauve]

That's Nicky's house wdym

[silver vine]

maybe its an easter egg to the alphas

[ripe berry]

It's like the HNHS Art with the Grave

It's in Ted's Backyard

[snow mauve]

Ted would never bury Nicky's yard!

[silver vine]

Nicky assumed that he buries tresspassers like him in that empty grave

[ripe berry]

Not in front of Ted's house

[silver vine]

so, I like to think that its a reference to the alphas of HN1 where Neighbor buries the player alive for tresspassing his house

[unkempt sleet]

I think thats probably a reference to that, yea

[teal imp]

I like how they decided to this art for the book

[snow mauve]

I mean it do be perfect

[teal imp]

looks like he is in the woods here

anyway

if you had to pick one

[snow mauve]

Hello guest!!!

[karmic ravine]

hello, gm

[teal imp]

which version of ted`s house would you consider canon?

[strange lance]

Ted is always in random fields

[snow mauve]

Hn2 ngl

[teal imp]

ew

[snow mauve]

It looks lovely

Inside

[teal imp]

I would choose the hnvr house

[silver vine]

he does do something

he pieces together evidence and tells the clues to the squad

[teal imp]

I know the roof might look goofy

but it looks really good ingame

[snow mauve]

Fair

[teal imp]

and I love every version of his house that has the attic

[silver vine]

all

[teal imp]

also the layout feels like a real home

[snow mauve]

Hn2:

[silver vine]

all of them are good

[unkempt sleet]

None for the interior
HN2 for the exterior

[teal imp]

and it feels so big despite being normal sized

I just love the hnvr house

[snow mauve]

Woah, words

[silver vine]

the interior always keeps changing

[strange lance]

I'm surprised by how big the attic is in hnvr. It looks so small on the outside

[silver vine]

only the exterior is mostly consistent

[unkempt sleet]

The interior is so inconsistent that i cant think any of the ones for to be the canon

Yea

[ripe berry]

Either Books or HN2

[teal imp]

hnvr interior seems the most like a normal house

also I like how big it looks

[silver vine]

exterior also has minor changes from time to time

[teal imp]

its just nice

[strange lance]

I choose hnvr's just because it has the best layout

And has the shed

[silver vine]

I agree

[strange lance]

And a agarage

[silver vine]

HNVR home feels super cozy

HN2 house is my second favorite tho

[unkempt sleet]

Was there any other media where Ted had an garage and a shed?

[silver vine]

yes

SN

[teal imp]

tbh If I could I would modify the hnvr house to have it be normal

[teal imp]

mr beast

wait no

[silver vine]

it didnt have a shed?

[teal imp]

that was just a garage

sorry

[unkempt sleet]

True
But i wouldnt count on SN for the canon house designs

[snow mauve]

Mr. Peterson

Is not a killer

[silver vine]

thats just how the house looks like to them

is a killer

[snow mauve]

https://tenor.com/view/thanos-impossible-marvel-shocked-gif-15104180

[teal imp]

god I love the attic

[snow mauve]

The better hn2

[teal imp]

I hope future versions of the house use it

[silver vine]

tho, SN map 4 house has the classic neighbor house design

it has a shed

and a greenhouse

and an attic

[unkempt sleet]

I dont like the Attic for how it looks on the exterior

[snow mauve]

Also different basement

[teal imp]

also I love how the roof has remnants of a hole here

[teal imp]

it looks really good ingame

I dont know how to explain it

it just does

[silver vine]

HN2 Alpha 2 also had it

[unkempt sleet]

It feels like a random hole in the house for me

[silver vine]

HN2 Alpha 1 even had ruins of the lift to the kids room

[unkempt sleet]

I prefer how the exterior looks without the attic

[silver vine]

I like SN attic

its so underrated

[unkempt sleet]

Im sorry but i dont remember any of the SN house designs...

[silver vine]

Im talking about the attic of map 4

[snow mauve]

What map had an attic in SN?

I forgot

[teal imp]

tho hn2 alphas did a much better job with the attic I must admit

still

[silver vine]

techincally maps 1 and 2 had attics, different exterior design

[teal imp]

the house looks amazing in vr

[silver vine]

but map 4 has a secret attic

[teal imp]

the pointy roof adds to the style if anything

[silver vine]

map 4 is the act 1 house

[snow mauve]

Secret attic?

[silver vine]

yes

[snow mauve]

Where exactly

[silver vine]

you can enter only as ghost

[unkempt sleet]

I still dont like it even in the alphas

[snow mauve]

Ah

[silver vine]

above Mya's room

[unkempt sleet]

Its just feels out of place for me

[teal imp]

it doesnt look all that bad

I really like it

[silver vine]

the blue door in the alphas was nice

[teal imp]

it makes the house have wackier proportions

and it gives us a cool attic to explore

thats a win in my book

[silver vine]

the alpha 2 house had enough place on the exterior to have an attic door

[unkempt sleet]

Why the hell a house has a door for the attic on the exterior

[teal imp]

did the gray manor have an attic?

[teal imp]

hnvr fixes this and has it be a window you climb into

its really cool

[snow mauve]

This is Hello Neighbor!

[silver vine]

Welcome to Raven Brooks

[teal imp]

**I hate the AS I hate the AS I hate the AS I hate the AS **

[snow mauve]

A not so strange place!

[silver vine]

average HNG user

[snow mauve]

I love hate

[unkempt sleet]

I love the sign thats on the entrance of the town

[teal imp]

mr peterson is the killer!!! 🤣🤣🤣

[snow mauve]

Hey that's my line!

[unkempt sleet]

Welcome to Raven Brooks

[teal imp]

he killed his kids!!! 😂

[silver vine]

I love how we have 3 variants of welcome in wayron croobian

[snow mauve]

Hurrrr stop that!

[silver vine]

Calwom, Celvom, Calowom

[teal imp]

the visitor you described isnt playing kids games 😨😨

[snow mauve]

https://tenor.com/view/slap-face-gif-18202319

[silver vine]

also I think HE has velcom, but thats a whole different wayron croobian

[unkempt sleet]

Calwom oot Wayron Croobs

[teal imp]

do you like kids? 🤨🤨

[silver vine]

Calowom moh

that greeting is omnious

Raven Brooks was never home

it never will be

[teal imp]

goodbye, neighbor 😱😱😱😱

[unkempt sleet]

Mohe would be better tbh

[silver vine]

moh sounds cooler

[unkempt sleet]

True

[unkempt sleet]

Say that to Theodore..

He cant escape Raven Brooks

[silver vine]

true

its his home

he cant leave even if he wanted to

[snow mauve]

He needs to make his skin

[unkempt sleet]

Its his home and his curse

[snow mauve]

plain WHITE

And it worked

[unkempt sleet]

He basically lost everything in Raven Brooks

[silver vine]

true

hes such a poor guy

[snow mauve]

Don't worry he can steal

[unkempt sleet]

I can understand why he tries to flood the town in GN2

[silver vine]

everyone in the town hates him

they dont know what he has been thru

[unkempt sleet]

He wants it to be gone

[silver vine]

exactly

I wonder what would've happened if he succeeded

what would've happened to him

[snow mauve]

Money

💰

[silver vine]

cuz he said that the station would be underwater in an hour

[unkempt sleet]

No Raven Brooks anymore

[silver vine]

but what would've happened to Peterson

would he have drowned too?

[unkempt sleet]

He was either gonna be stayed in the station, or just gonna escape

[silver vine]

he said the station would be underwater in an hour

[unkempt sleet]

Yea

Also Guest wants the town to be flood aswell

[silver vine]

but why

whats he gonna gain by flooding the town

[unkempt sleet]

That was what i was gonna say

Tbh we still dont know what exactly Guest's purpose is

[silver vine]

the guest seems to be the overarching antagonist of the franchise

in both timelines

[teal imp]

no way he robs banks???

[snow mauve]

Real

[unkempt sleet]

He manipulates Ted, He manipulates Aaron, He manipulates Ted to flood the town
But why

[snow mauve]

He's the guest

[silver vine]

tho Peterson is the face of the franchise, hes just a poor broken cursed man, the evil bird thing is the true enemy

[snow mauve]

He does what he does

So evil >:)

[silver vine]

true

hes pure evil in my book

[snow mauve]

He's just a demon

Or idk

[silver vine]

more evil than the thing

[unkempt sleet]

Like he takes what people dont deserve
But i dont think flooding the Raven Brooks is a way of doing that? İdk really

[snow mauve]

Mr. Peterson is the killer dude

Smh

[silver vine]

hes taking Raven Brooks away from its citizens

[unkempt sleet]

Im talking about the Guest dude

Smh

[snow mauve]

lie

[silver vine]

cuz they dont deserve the town

they evacuate urgently

they leave everything behind

[unkempt sleet]

But his plan fails

[silver vine]

as we see when Pris and Julie enter a home

[unkempt sleet]

The town doesnt flood

[silver vine]

they just fled for their lives

[silver vine]

sadly

the folks deserved the flood if you ask me

[unkempt sleet]

Ok, Then what is he doing in Reset Day??

Keeping the town in loop

[silver vine]

collecting gems

[unkempt sleet]

Why??

[silver vine]

thats even more confusing

[snow mauve]

Demon

[silver vine]

I wonder if man of action decided to keep reset day and time loops canon

or they scrapped that

[unkempt sleet]

It doesnt look like a "im taking away what you dont deserve" thing

[snow mauve]

The ultimate bad luck

[silver vine]

unlucky

coins

[snow mauve]

Thanks AS

[silver vine]

also the cult was still there in reset day

[unkempt sleet]

Yea

[silver vine]

wonder what was their deal

[snow mauve]

Evil revenge for no reason 😈

[silver vine]

the only thing I like about the AS is Peterson hell bent on getting revenge on the cult

[unkempt sleet]

That makes me think that my theory about the people remain from the Cult reforms again after the Aaron Trilogy was correct

[silver vine]

I wonder how hes gonna do it

[snow mauve]

He kills kids

That's his plan

[silver vine]

thats what Nicky and his gang thinks

[snow mauve]

Then reads a dictionary of grunting language

[silver vine]

[unkempt sleet]

Tbh, He tried to protect what he had, he tried to get back what he had, he tried to forget what he had, its only matter of time he wanted revenge

[snow mauve]

Cuz that's his new communication

Then he just builds a bigger house

Cuz why not

So he can kill more kids! (Fun)

[silver vine]

true

I want to see Peterson interacting with the cult in HN2

[unkempt sleet]

Same

[teal imp]

tbh I dont mind the cult being back retcon if they use it well

[silver vine]

character interactions is what HN2 lacks

[teal imp]

the cult could be used well in the games

[unkempt sleet]

True

[silver vine]

tho it has diverse characters, they dont interact and feel separated

[silver vine]

yes

[teal imp]

it opens a lot of opportunities

[unkempt sleet]

Most character interaction we had was Ted, Aaron and Quentin

[snow mauve]

Meanwhile Mr. Peterson is just

[unkempt sleet]

İn HN2

[snow mauve]

Dead inside

[unkempt sleet]

The others are just there

[snow mauve]

Least that's good

To show that he's had enough

[silver vine]

YES

[unkempt sleet]

Maybe you should make that a feedback

[snow mauve]

Though bro needs to shave his beard

He do be gross looking

[silver vine]

NO

the beard makes him look cooler

[unkempt sleet]

Yea

[silver vine]

thats what this guy lacks

[snow mauve]

Raughhhh!!!!

True

[silver vine]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/720318918165659779/1110614161580372009/20230523_103024.gif

he aint got no beard

[snow mauve]

Let the man be a dinosaur

Cuz he sure loves screaming

[silver vine]

why does he have a diff shovel

[unkempt sleet]

This guy looks cool tbh

[snow mauve]

Hn2 moment

[snow mauve]

Because he's Mr. Peterson

[silver vine]

he has different color sweater too

he has butcher neighbor sweater

not the classic bluish purple one

[unkempt sleet]

That is probably because they couldnt find a %100 accurate sweater

[silver vine]

then they should make one

[teal imp]

I hope they do more stuff like this

this art is fire

[silver vine]

they should've really used the Peterson cosplay costume from the HN Showcase stream from 2021

[teal imp]

I would love if they used this style more often

[unkempt sleet]

Who's the artist of this? Is it Elena?

[teal imp]

I have no idea

[unkempt sleet]

Or someone else?

[silver vine]

Trinity is fire

[teal imp]

whoever this is they did a banger job

god delroy looks cool in this

its a shame what they done to him

[silver vine]

true

[teal imp]

like couldnt he have a bag that he could store items in?

or was they couldnt exploit it?

[teal imp]

like all the abilities are just items

[snow mauve]

Halloween costume moment

[silver vine]

we know Ivan's old name was Thomas, I wonder if Delroy and Finch had different names too

[teal imp]

it would be cool if there was a non item ability

idk

but damn

are delroy and finch sidelined a lot

[silver vine]

sadly

[teal imp]

which is sad because they might be my favorites

I like how scout just doesnt give a shit

[unkempt sleet]

Where does the name Thomas come from

[silver vine]

HE

[teal imp]

and delroy I just like his yellow sweater thing

[unkempt sleet]

Like, from the files or?

[teal imp]

files IIRC

[unkempt sleet]

Because i dont trust the file names much when it comes to names

[silver vine]

Idk

lemme check

yes

hes named thomas in the files

hes also called Jimmy in SN Rocket trailer

so

we can conclude

Inventor's full name is
Ivan Thomas "Jimmy" Torre

[young kayak]

jimmy was a fan name

[silver vine]

yes

[young kayak]

before its real name reveal

[tame quartz]

yeah but that could be from a time when he didn’t have a official name and needed a temporary one (Thomas)

[silver vine]

the way scout calls Inventor in SN trailer sounds like Jimmy, thats why the fandom started calling him Jimmy

why not inventor

[tame quartz]

inventor isn’t a name

[unkempt sleet]

Is there any other names in the files

[tame quartz]

it’s a title

[silver vine]

no

I mean

[unkempt sleet]

Just Inventor?

For the name?

[silver vine]

Enzo, Maritza and Trinity are also there

obv

and then theres Thomas

[unkempt sleet]

What about Bagger and Scout

[tame quartz]

So how can you be sure Thomas is a kid?

[silver vine]

no

[unkempt sleet]

Oh wait

They were not in HE

[tame quartz]

Ted,Tom,Thomas,Theodore are all similar

[unkempt sleet]

"mixamorig:Hips"
....

[silver vine]

Wrench_Thomas