lore-discussion

[lapis sonnet]

here's a timeline:

#lore-discussion message

[cold gull]

I have a question

Is HN2 about the new lore? I mean, is it about the AS' story?

Or the main books story?

[shell gull]

No AS takes place during Book 2-3, which was in 1997-1998, and Cuz the dates are moved, that puts it in 2001-2003.

[shell gull]

It’s through AS

[cold gull]

Okaayy

Thank u

That means, the green house in front of Ted's, is Trinity's, right?

[shell gull]

No

[cold gull]

It's Nicky's?

[lapis sonnet]

no/yes, we don't even have confirmation if HN2 is following the other games or AS (although it is VERY likely) but based on description the house across from petersons in hn2 is actually nickys

Trinity's is red

Nicky's is described as a green-turqiose

So we dk for now

[cold gull]

Okaaay

Thanks for that

[lapis sonnet]

Yeah there's no real answer to your question rn

the lore is in a bad place rn

[cold gull]

Okaaay... 😿

[lapis sonnet]

ik im sad too

[shell gull]

There are three canons, AS, Books and Games, AS is the most canon in lore, while games is second and books is third, Alex said AS is going to have tie ins and connections with the Games.

[lapis sonnet]

What he said, which unfortunately this weird overlap of the 3 canons that is currently occurring is causing a ton of plot holes.

[cold gull]

I'm throwing myself off of a bridge

[shell gull]

Well No, there’s no overlap AS and Games just have some connections, Books is just by itself.

[lapis sonnet]

Technically books overlap with games rather than being by itself, although technically there's little to none since books were made after and for the games so it's just getting HN1 and building on it. So I guess you are right, but on another note the house across the street from Mr. Peterson's is Nicky's and exactly described as in the books in HN2, but that's only because it was the same in HN1. I assumed that in HN2 they would replace Nicky's with Trinity's and then do the same to HN1 when the make the remake, but for some reason they didn't. So in conclusion, u are 90% right and also between me and u, isn't that a weird choice from TB?

[shell gull]

Well I mean, I don’t think they will change Nicky’s house with trinitys but maybe, also it is very weird they went with trinity as the main character.

[lapis sonnet]

Yeah, what's the point of going with Trinity for the AS, but keep Nicky if your trying to connect the games to the AS??

like wth?

[shell gull]

Yeah

[lapis sonnet]

What are your theories regarding that btw? I have no idea how they could fix that and clean up that plot hole except just saying AS is a seperate timeline (which they will definitely not do, but it's the only way I see that being fixed)

[shell gull]

I mean, there’s nothing they can do at this point, the only thing I can imagine they can save is Nicky being friends with Aaron.

No, Alex the ceo already said in the discord that, the books are the weakest canon, basically anything in the books isn’t true until proven canon in AS.

You should first read the books to understand the fundamentals

After that

Check out AS to understand the canon lore

RN in lore discussion were mainly handling on the museums co existence with the cult

There are about 7 books, AS stands for animated series, and yes there a cult, here I have a link for you, that is based around something called the Full Timeline (not an actual full timeline) that doesn’t have high detail but will help you understand the lore a bit, also it’s not canon but is a mix of all canons: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1-nvlX7K7ljW_pXHPHPFJZmIX79Gs_Jew2_Z2J2eCzxE/edit

There’s a lot that it doesn’t explain

No it’s slathered through books

The timeline is missing HN1

And act 3

Also some stuff to Realised is half of all of the things in there isn’t actually true it very outdated

Well In books it’s 1945, but cuz AS moves dates up it’s somewhere in 1955

Nah, all we’re waiting for is more episodes of AS to see what is still canon and since AS is the real lore

Yes, AS is the actual thing, while books is the base.

Books used to be canon

But after AS it no longer really is

No

Basically Alex the ceo decided to make some profit by making a cartoon show, but decided not to follow the book lore, and spiral out and decide to make AS the canon.

Well in the timeline yeah

But in the canon no

Act 3 is the latest

It used to be reset day but that’s a book so…

Alright listen that timeline was a CONCEPT from like a year ago

I can give you the actual lore if you want

Alright prepare cuz this is gonna take a bit

Here we go:

Sometime 1950-60 a couple by the names of Roger and Adelle Peterson, have a son named Theodore masters Peterson (the neighbor), now it’s unsure what is still canon in books, but in the books he becomes friends with a kid by the name of Ike Gershowitz.

That’s the beginning part

Let me know when that sinks in

Yes but AS takes place in early 2000s

If I was to guess he would be 48.

During AS

Alright should I continue

Ok

Theodore or his nickname Ted, would be great friends with Ike, but keep in mind we don’t know if he’s still canon, Roger and Addelle were famous meteorologist in the town they all lived in Raven brooks, they would work in a weather station deep in the forest.

Do you know what hello guest is?

Have you ever seen the ending for the prototype of the game

It’s ok if you haven’t

Ehh no not really also the bird man is called The Guest and no he isn’t Ted but sorta is

We’ll get to that in a bit

Basically in that ending you would see a building

Here lemme pull a picture of it

Sorry it took a bit

Here it is

This is a concept version but this is the weather station also known as Mayak

Shall I continue

Alright

One day on there way to work in the weather station, they saw a large nest on a tree, the size of a human, the were intrigued and decided to look deeper, they would discover that the local legend in raven brooks of these creatures call forest protectors, was actually a cult of people dressed in raven suits and cult clothing.

No like I said well get to him

Or I should say IT keep that in mind

Continue?

They would get deeper into it, and find out more of there secrets, such as them having cursed ritual items called luck devices.

Currently we don’t know if there still canon

But most likely are

Ok so, they would find out more and more, Theodore and his friend Ike would be there as they did these things, Theodore’s parents would discover more and more, so much that they even rigged underground tunnels across the whole town.

Alright

I should explain what luck devices are

Luck devices are cursed items that will grant the user good luck, but can have the side effect of giving bad luck to others.

Basically

But the cult also has the ab to give family’s horrible cursed bad luck forever

And the only way to fix it

Is with a luck device

Continue

Alright

Theodore and Ike would explore the tunnels, but soon, the people who fund roger and addelles research in meteorology would take out there funds

Should I explain who the people who took the funds out are?

Aight

There a family of very rich people known as the Tavishes, they own a company in raven brooks called the golden apple.

Now that they funds are gone, they don’t get the right resources, which lead to violence from them, they would use the underground tunnels to get to the tavishes factory, “the golden apple factory” and burn it down.

Now for context the golden apple is a candy company that makes golden apple shaped candy

Continue

Soon after Theodore would get the news that his parents are missing.

Theodore knew it was the cult, and that his parents got close to the TRUTH.

And by truth I mean connected to the guest

Theodore would later in his life become a theme park engineer and build famous theme parks across the world, he would leave raven brooks to Germany, and marry a women by the name of Diane, and have 2 kids with her, the oldest Aaron, and youngest Mia.

No in The US

Yup 👍🏻 which is soon to get too

Theodore would build a theme park in Germany with a ride called fernweh welt, now keep in mind this is book territory, so we don’t really know if it’s still canon.

Not games, but AS there are 3 canons AS, Books and games, books is meat canon and is the base, AS is the canon and connects somewhat with Games.

Continue

One day a group of kids die on the fernweh welt ride, forcing Theodore to run out of the country back to his old home in raven brooks, with his family.

BRB

Alright I’m back

Now before I continue this is going to get deep into the lore, so give me your questions now.

Aight I’ll ping you tomorrow at like 10:00am PST that sound good

And we’ll continue from there

Cya

[hazy harbor]

эм

[shell gull]

Yo @tribal talon I’m back you wanna continue?

[tame quartz]

hes asleep

[shell gull]

Ahh

[pliant estuary]

so I don't know nor do I care about the new AS lore, I'm more of a OG kind of guy

[cold gull]

Maybe, while saving Nicky from Ted's basement, having a base across the street would make things easier, for animation, and script

Since Trinity is still the leader, that would be a useful advantage for the kids

And, i know, that at least in HN2 and Hello Neighbor Search and rescue, there's some kinda tree-house, which would be kids' base across the street

This tree-house would be Trinity's property

The leader

So, maybe, the reason of why they swaped protagonists between Nicky and Trinity, is to have a better way to save Nicky

Not that important maybe, but wanted to share my guess of why they messed up the lore

And thinking more about it, i think that confirms whose house it is across the street in HN2

(i also want to apologize for my bad English, it isn't my native language, i just hope u guys can understand what i'm saying)

[shell gull]

Well no, in game canon that would be Nicky’s.

In game canon, the green or blue house across the street of the Peterson house is Nicky’s.

[upbeat remnant]

Hello people! I'm new to the Hello Neighbor community, and I wanted to know the full story, you know? from the beginning, is there anyone who can help me with this?

[thin wadi]

I don't feel like typing

The lore is so long

Let's see: Adele and Roger Peterson move to Raven Brooks, which is were most of the story takes place

Adele is a teacher ||i think|| and Roger is a weatherman

[shell gull]

No

[thin wadi]

Dang already wrong

[shell gull]

There both meteorologists

Here I’ll do it

[thin wadi]

Ok you explain the lore then

[thin wadi]

Ok thanks

[shell gull]

Np

[shell gull]

Ok so here’s the lore

Simplified

[wicked heath]

i made an 8 minutes summary

u can watch it if u want. (im not gonna post the link, cus mods will consider this self-promoting)

[shell gull]

Here hold up

[shell gull]

Read from here all the way down and when you finish the part where I stopped I can continue it if you want: #lore-discussion message

[shell gull]

He literally went on and then asked for the lore and went offline

[thin wadi]

But if I post the link

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=RjUwByplHpM

[wicked heath]

thanks, amigo

[thin wadi]

[thin wadi]

Lmao

They'll likely get back on later though

[shell gull]

I like the amount of time skipping that makes it so funny

But I’m guessing this was based through the FT since it seemed like it

But you got a 👍🏻

[upbeat remnant]

ah, I understood a little of the story. I already know some things about Hello Neighbor, but I hadn't delved into the story.

I'm a """content creator from Brazil""" and for a while now I've been trying to create a timeline with the complete story of HN, from its beginnings to what it is today. The problem is that it seems that they are rewriting history, which makes me more and more confused.

[shell gull]

Yeah they are

[thin wadi]

Ik its horrible

They should just stick to one consistent story

[shell gull]

I have always been thinking of making a like 30 minute storyline video but you perfected it lol @wicked heath

[upbeat remnant]

I'm going to make a video about it, but I'm going to get as much information as possible.

[thin wadi]

Have you played any of the games?

[shell gull]

Here lemme give you something: the working theory rn for the guests origin is he’s an entity summoned by the cult if you want proof I can give you it, but keep in mind it’s just a theory.

That has an 80% chance of being right

[pliant estuary]

k im here

[shell gull]

Aight

So basically

There’s a working theory on the guest rn that we’ve been working on for a good while

You wanna hear it

[pliant estuary]

yup

[shell gull]

Alright

So basically you know how there’s the giant crow statue in the museum

[pliant estuary]

yeah

[shell gull]

And you know how in nightmare 3 we find out it’s full with GAC

[pliant estuary]

GAC is golden apple coin

[shell gull]

Yeah

[pliant estuary]

ok continue

[shell gull]

So that got a lot of people such as myself and lore man thinking, why would there be golden apple coins in there

And then we realised

Since everyone in town except Ted is a cultist and they have the keys to the museum

They obviously used the museum as a hideout

Since it’s abandoned

So, the cult used the museum, but for what purpose?

[pliant estuary]

this spells out what are they doing here right?

[shell gull]

Yeah kinda

[shell gull]

It spells “What are they hiding”

So what are they hiding

In a couple days we got patch 2

Which gave us tapes

But when playing the original tape recordings, it sounded weird

[pliant estuary]

yeah

[shell gull]

You would hear echos and humming with guest clacking

Those hums would be cultist

[pliant estuary]

that makes sense

[shell gull]

And the sounds of doors opening are the same as the museum, and the ambiance is museum ambiance

And there’s echos so they were in the attic

And the clacking was confusing, but lore man figured it out

The clacking were very unhinged which meant they weren’t natural

Those clacks were the echos of the guests consciousness

As in the books it explains the guest has conscious ability’s

[pliant estuary]

he controls ted in "the raven brooks disaster" right?

[shell gull]

Yes at the end

But

The clacks would get louder in the tapes when in order

Which meant it was being pulled

It was being pulled into a physical form

By the cult

And at the end one loud growl came out that wasn’t hinged which meant it was physical

At the end they summoned the guest

But, the guest would be disobedient

It ran off

[pliant estuary]

so how did he end up in the cage

[shell gull]

They summoned it in the cage

It broke free and ran

And it ran

The same night Quentin caught Ted locking Aaron

That’s why the guest was running in a hurry

And that’s why Quentin almost ran into the guest

[pliant estuary]

away from the museum, oh my god

[shell gull]

But

[pliant estuary]

this make alot of sense so far

[shell gull]

After that, the keys were stolen,

The cult locked the place up so no eve since would get out

That’s why each cultist locked the key away

So no one finds evidence

[pliant estuary]

wow

that actully makes alot of sense

[shell gull]

But you may be wondering why they did it

[pliant estuary]

yup

[shell gull]

Cuz the guest is the controller of the luck

He literally has control over luck

That’s why they have luck devices

And GAC give luck

The cult thinks he’s their god

That’s why they built a statue of it and gave offerings by filling it with GAC

[pliant estuary]

is that why in AS the neighbors collecting GAC

[shell gull]

Yes to gain luck back after being cursed

But that’s a theory in the GAC

We don’t know for sure

But the guest may be a demon

I mean it has demonic ability’s

And in Mythology the raven man is a demon

This could also explain the guest insane speed it’s ability to clim it’s EMP ability’s it’s high jumps

It’s claws

It’s demonic clacking

All of it

So any thoughts @pliant estuary

[pliant estuary]

it makes sense, all of it, thx for explaining it to me

[shell gull]

Yeah np but keep in mind it’s not confirmed but literally half of everything literally implies it so it’s a high 95% chance

But we have to see in AS since the guest will be in there

[pliant estuary]

true

[tame quartz]

wow

only a true lore master can incite this knowledge

so meaningfully

[shell gull]

Also there’s this:

[shell gull]

I’m not a lore master I only proposed the idea of the guest being a curse

Oh yeah forgot to mention that

Nightmare 3 is supposed to be a rein at of what happens the day the guest was summoned

And the achievement name is ancient curse so the guest might be a big curse

[shell gull]

Since it makes a lot of sense, was implied in tapes then this is a high likely hood.

But yeah that’s that

[pliant estuary]

cool

[tame quartz]

in the eyes of the lore, you have seen everything so that makes you a Lore Master

as a fellow lore master, I dub thee, Master Sh1mp

[shell gull]

Well thank you

[wicked heath]

Theres only one true lore master in this server

[shell gull]

And it’s not yo-, In all seriousness it’s Michealhuff, the lore man.

[wicked heath]

not him either

or me

[shell gull]

Then who

[wicked heath]

although Michael is def close

[shell gull]

Then who

[wicked heath]

The one and only Tiny Crow

[shell gull]

Oh yeah good point but he’s barely in here

[wicked heath]

Hey: Its like the king of FNAF. Hes barely here, and yet hes still considered king

[shell gull]

True

But recently he’s kinda disappeared and barely had any new knowledge

But I guess so

[frail ferry]

question how was the guest summoned and what is he? (and i know it was by the cult but i mean exactly how)

[shell gull]

We don’t know but probably through a cult ritual

[frail ferry]

so hes some empty weird spirit thing

[pliant estuary]

I'm a BOOK lore master, in order to watch a episode of AS I have to reread every book right after, so I don't go crazy

[shell gull]

Lol

[shell gull]

No a curse, an entity basically.

[frail ferry]

oh wow

[shell gull]

Alright I got something to talk about today, so Uhh, in Teds house in AS there’s an extra floor.

[pliant estuary]

that's why AS is dumb

[shell gull]

Yeah but I wonder what the extra floor is

[blazing latch]

One message removed from a suspended account.

[shell gull]

Yeah there is one

[tribal talon]

Is the Hello neighbor series connected to the game??

[shell gull]

You mean the animated series? If yes then no, but it apparently is going to have tie ins.

Anyways any ideas on what that extra floor is for, guessing it’s for an Attic.

[tribal talon]

Yea the animation series

It’s odd out of honesty what’s the point of the series if it won’t be cannon you know?

[pale urchin]

Flexible is a canon term

[tribal talon]

Well than do y’all think we may see the guest again?

[shell gull]

It is canon

[shell gull]

He’s gonna be in AS:

[tribal talon]

Oh thanks for letting me know I hardly get on discord 😭👌

[blazing pebble]

Tf is AS

[viscid knot]

I think the son of Peterson is the thing

[tribal talon]

Do y’all think Peterson is a bad guy?

[snow mauve]

Animated Series

[snow mauve]

Nah but he's not a good father nor a good person

[shell gull]

Anyways Nicky’s house is where in AS?

[unkempt sleet]

I always imagined AS layout being like this

but idk, just assumption

[strange lance]

Yeah that's it

[thin wadi]

I imagine that Trinity's house is the one you are in when you are in the SN lobby

And that the lobby is Trinity's front yard

Plus she's leader so it might make sense for it to be her yard

[shell gull]

Ahh

[shell gull]

Well No its by Nicky’s tree house, since in game canon it’s Nicky’s house only in front of Teds

[thin wadi]

In the game it isn't infront of Ted's house

Its like a house down from being right across from Ted's house

[hazy slate]

pretty sure nicky's house is where trinity's is

[strange lance]

Yes

[tribal talon]

Than again no one is perfect

[snow mauve]

Yea true

[tribal talon]

But yea I kinda agree

[mighty ember]

ue4 widget diagram 😨

[unkempt sleet]

Thats Blender

[pliant estuary]

I always image AS not existing

[mighty ember]

https://tenor.com/view/goodbye-disintegrate-half-life2-hl2-gif-23941439

[tame quartz]

true, i'm one of tiny crows disciples

michael is just a relative

[shell gull]

So any theory’s on the sewers in HN2, we already know there gonna be in HNSR, but it seems the cult has a plan, don’t know what it is, but seems to be a picture of the sewers.

[glacial whale]

That or maybe the plan is just what’s planned on being added

[shell gull]

Ahh

[crude dew]

theory 1 (already true): frame drop
maybe they will take you to new places in later patches, but I hope those places will be on separate map, because we'll get 10 fps again

[glacial whale]

That’s how I interpreted it but I could be wrong

[shell gull]

Yeah

[safe charm]

Hi

[shell gull]

Yeah what’s up

[safe charm]

I’m starting to think maybe the cultist summoned the guest in the sewers

But probably not

[shell gull]

Maybe, but wouldn’t make sense until we have more proof, the sound in the tapes are the same as the museum so most likely not but we don’t know yet.

[safe charm]

Also can you please explain what does we know about the guest origin right now ?

I’m still so confused

As you can possibly be

[shell gull]

Sure

But it will be quick

[safe charm]

Thanks

Ok

[shell gull]

The guest is a conscious entity that the cult used a ritual to summon him in the attic cage of the museum, to become a physical entity, the cult summoned him because they believed him as a god.

[safe charm]

How do you believe they made him physical

[shell gull]

We don’t know

[safe charm]

Like it can’t just be chanting

[shell gull]

But the echos are low frequency which means it wasn’t physical until the last bit where it was the opposite which is physically made

[shell gull]

Prob cursed ritual items

[safe charm]

Why does the guest look so small in the intro

[shell gull]

My guess it was the item the investors took from the museum

[safe charm]

And almost innocent

[shell gull]

He isn’t it’s cause of the view

[shell gull]

Well I mean that was the night it ran from the museum

[safe charm]

What do you think the guest was doing throughout the story

Any hints that we have

[shell gull]

Well I mean prob lurking about

He isn’t in the game rn so we don’t know really

Also about the sewers

There gonna be in HNSR

[safe charm]

Ik

[shell gull]

But the blueprint is most likely going to be a hint to a map expansion

[safe charm]

Who stole the keys ?

[shell gull]

Like a sewers under the map

[shell gull]

The cultist

They didn’t steal them

That’s just what the town though Happened

[safe charm]

Also nightmare 3 I can’t understand

Still

It’s so confusing

Like how are we supposed to understand

[shell gull]

It’s a reimagine of what happens when they summoned the guest, basically Quentin realized the truth.

[safe charm]

Why is their coins

Dropping

From guest

That’s what is bugging me

[shell gull]

Cuz they used the statue to fill it with golden apple coins as an offering to the guest

[safe charm]

And it starting to move what does it mean

And flying

[safe charm]

?

[shell gull]

It moved as it represents the guest being summoned and it falling on Quentin represents it running away

[safe charm]

Did the cult not create the guest

[shell gull]

No the guest is an ancient entity/curse and controls the luck

Gotta go

[safe charm]

Ok

[safe charm]

Wdym by consious entity

[safe charm]

?

Sorry I just wanna know

[wicked heath]

Attempt to explain Late Fees

[uncut mulch]

Can anyone explain to me

In the animated series

[wicked heath]

yes its canon

[uncut mulch]

How does Peterson have time to make the house from act 3

[wicked heath]

no clue

[uncut mulch]

What if there was a plot twist

[wicked heath]

likely from a nightmare

[uncut mulch]

What if it was all trinity dream

[wicked heath]

no

[uncut mulch]

Crazy plot twist

[wicked heath]

just no

[uncut mulch]

Ok

[shell gull]

In GN2, he could make people hallucinate, and entree their minds and dreams/nightmares.

[wicked heath]

My bro Ted literally commited a doctor octopus

He was driven to do evil things by smth in his brain (goose)
He made a machine that would destroy the city
He was reasoned and drowned trying to fix his mistake

[latent cosmos]

Then possessed by the guest fully

[wicked heath]

https://tenor.com/view/doctor-octopus-death-spider-man2-gif-23926715

[shell gull]

He wasn’t being told to do things by the guest, all the things he did was his opinion, until he tried to stop it all, and the guest came for him, since he couldn’t possess that one girl in GN2.

[stiff spire]

no way HN2 final ending

neighbor dies

would actually be sad though if the neighbor does die

[shell gull]

There’s hints that he dies after getting choked by the guest, and the guest is just using his dead body.

[stiff spire]

oh yeah

I feel like they would make his death more dramatic in the game though

when I saw the page where the neighbor drowned to death it was sad but I didn't feel anything I mean I felt bad a little bit

[pliant estuary]

ok so, I was playing HN1 (32 bit test version, idk why but I prefer this version) when I found this house, its the only house on the street with a brown fence, every other fence is white. but that's not the weird part. the weird part is that it has a grave in the backyard, here are some ss

[cedar merlin]

You sure that isn't just a random pile of dirt?

[pliant estuary]

true, but it is the same model as Mya's grave in act 1

[latent cosmos]

There are other dirt piles

[shell gull]

Just detail

[shell gull]

It’s been a bit, but what are catacomb rooms?, did I miss some lore am I going crazy?

[tribal talon]

You missed some lore

Patch 6

[crude dew]

they kept replacing that random pile of dirt to places btw

they had one pile of dirt since alpha 3, so
they used that

[midnight igloo]

That seens kinda of familiar to me, i don't know why:

[safe charm]

Hi

[shell gull]

Yeah what’s up

[safe charm]

Um before the guest summoned guest how did he exist

In some way

[snow mauve]

He exist

Duhhhhhh

Literally no need for explanation

[safe charm]

Before they summoned him depkis duh

[shell gull]

The guest was an ancient curse/entity that has lived for a long time

[snow mauve]

He wouldn't exist before then

[shell gull]

Yeah he did wha-

[snow mauve]

Oh my god

[shell gull]

Nightmare 3, explains the guest is an ancient entity.

[safe charm]

What is an ancient curse like what counts as it

[snow mauve]

Sorry about that

I'm just tired rn (haven't slept well)

[shell gull]

Well maybe bad luck but since nightmare 3 is symbolic to the guest it’s prob on the guest

[shell gull]

All good

[safe charm]

So before they summoned him was he like a ghost

[shell gull]

No a conscious

IT was a demon

[safe charm]

Like did he just float around in the air lol

[shell gull]

No he was like, how do I explain it

It’s like some folklore entity type stuff

[safe charm]

?

[shell gull]

He exist outside the physical plain, so the cult brought him into it, basically like angels, they don’t exist in the physical plain.

Now keep in mind the guest is most likely a demon

[safe charm]

Oh and I’m kinda confused what does ancient curse mean like

Is it by people cursing people

[shell gull]

The guest is an ancient entity who has existed for a long time, the curse, is because the guest is a curse, it’s a curse to raven brooks ever since it was summoned.

[safe charm]

Was guest kept in a cage for a long time

[shell gull]

No, it was in the attic cage after being summoned, a week before Quentin arrived, and escaped the night Quentin saw Aaron get pulled by Ted, the cultist probably tried to befriend it and praise it as they believed it as their god.

[safe charm]

Do you think guest was originally meant to be the neighbor during early development

[snow mauve]

Nah

[safe charm]

Many teaser and leaks seem to imply it

[shell gull]

Well no, but during Hello Guest development it was supposed to tie in with GN2 and Reset Day, as in one scene you would see Ted possessed disfigured inside the guest suit.

[safe charm]

That sounds disturbing

[shell gull]

Yeah

The goal was to stop the guest from causing a massive storm

[safe charm]

Originally hn 2 was gonna take place after act 3 ?

[shell gull]

With the Mill

[shell gull]

Well, yeah Hello guest.

[snow mauve]

Honestly that wouldn't been nice

But instead

We got a sequel with a useless timeline

[safe charm]

Lol exactly

[shell gull]

If I was to say

If the theory of the blueprint in the sewers being a map expansion for a sewers is true

Than I might lean on the Guest lurking down there

[snow mauve]

Guest being the sewer creature

Is weird to me

[shell gull]

That would be cool

[snow mauve]

But I guess it works (kinda)

[safe charm]

To me he should be in the amusement park or just the town

[snow mauve]

I mostly prefer the guest stay hidden in the shadows around town

[shell gull]

Imagine your goal is to turn on generators down there to get the power back in, but your being stalked by the guest.

[shell gull]

Agreed

[snow mauve]

That would be cool

Something like hello guest

[shell gull]

Yeah

[safe charm]

I hope hello guest eventually gets reused and becomes a third game

[snow mauve]

NO NO NO

We do not need a third game

[shell gull]

Prob not since there making a HN remake

[shell gull]

Agreed just leave the game alone

[safe charm]

Yea true

[safe charm]

Hope we get an story update soon

[shell gull]

Prob not till like patch 12

[snow mauve]

I still can't get over act 3's house

Just why...

[safe charm]

The guest I think will be added in like 10

[shell gull]

But currently there’s a high chance for a new character in the next 3 patches

[safe charm]

Why did they make it real why ?!

[shell gull]

Ahem…Leslie…Ahem

[safe charm]

How do you think he will function?

[shell gull]

Prob a side quest character is my expectation

[safe charm]

I hope they don’t make the guest a side quest

[shell gull]

Of course not

[safe charm]

He should be the final boss

[shell gull]

Gotta go

[safe charm]

Ok bye

[shell gull]

So what are catacombs

[ripe berry]

They appear to be a sewer-like area going under all of Raven Brooks

There's also ||a GA Coin, implying someone died down there||

they're probably the new-lore Tunnels

which is further supported by the name

Catacombs are (if I remember right) a burial place with religious connections

and the Tunnels are a place connected to a "religion" of sorts, that being the Cult

[uncut mulch]

That’s in the 3rd episode of the hello neighbor animated series I think

[crude dew]

I think that hints the cultists?
the symbolism of HN2 is messed up entirely

[manic dirge]

yeah i was thinking. that the "sewers" are actually just tunnels

[shell gull]

Ahh makes sense

[shell gull]

So that must mean the Cult picture was depicted inside the catacombs

[shell gull]

So the tunnels are most likely connected to the catacombs

[shell gull]

If I was to guess it was most likely missing journalist who died.

[ripe berry]

Same

[crude dew]

wait
didn't Ike die in, like
the sewers, or tunnels

they are literally recycling his story

[unkempt sleet]

Didnt Ike died in a peppermint vat?

[crude dew]

Ike wasn't only humiliated with the vat
his story is now taken away

the body was thrown into one
but Aaron finds his wallet in the tunnel

I think he was murdered in the tunnels and then the corpse was taken to the factory and Cleave hid it in the vat

[cold gull]

I thought quentin would be ike but retconned

Or something like that

The same person but alive

[viscid portal]

Hi

What is that???

[unkempt sleet]

Its a piece of Mr. Peterson's sweater

[wicked heath]

its John Cena

[crude dew]

text that you can hear

[crude dew]

this one is tricky
since they entirely changed the story once again...HG Quentin was most likely Ike, because they share hilariously similar treats
but since HG Quentin was literally scrapped, Carly killed him off.
and HN2 Quentin was going to be Norman Darby, but then not, and he became a third character, who isn't in the books

[blazing latch]

One message removed from a suspended account.

[crude dew]

if you logically go through the story.. there's just too many things matching
I think we've had some writer issues here, rather than lore

[shell gull]

Here’s the problem HG Quentin bring Ike was a theory, HG was originally taking place after GN2.

But they both worked for the same company eyes and ears security

[ripe berry]

Actually no

GN2 was made after HG became HN2

[shell gull]

Oh really?

[shell gull]

Oh yeah

[ripe berry]

GN2 didn't exist when HG was made

[shell gull]

Still I think that was what they were hoping for

[ripe berry]

They had a similar plot in the background to GN2 around this time

Since SN has warning posters talking about a Hurricane

[shell gull]

Yeah

[ripe berry]

However there's another thing

HGP and Book 4 seem to reference both a event with kids going into the Forest and encountering what is later revealed by the books to be a Forest Protector

but in HGP it's the Guest

[shell gull]

True

[shell gull]

Guest was most likely an early Forest protector character

[ripe berry]

Indicating that HG was meant to be around the same time as the Forest Protector rumor was going around

Which is 1991-1992

[shell gull]

True

[ripe berry]

We don't know the original plot of Book 5-6 from before the HN2 Reveal so we can't say for certain when they wanted Ike to die

Book 4 prolouge indicates Ike was meant to die at some point

Since who else could that have been

[shell gull]

So it could’ve been Ike, but if we go further into detail, HG Quentin worked in the GAAP as a night shift guard, same with Ike, only difference is Ike worked in the forest near the park.

Where it would’ve been

[ripe berry]

But with the original plan for when Ike dies being unknown, he could've been meant to survive until what later became Puzzle Master after they changed the lore

[shell gull]

Yeah

[ripe berry]

Yeah

[ripe berry]

There's just one little flaw here

The HGA1 Intro

Since that Implies Quentin was recently hired

[shell gull]

True…

[ripe berry]

But that could've been explained as simply being Ike being moved back to guard the abandoned park

[shell gull]

ALSO let’s talk about the similarities with them

[ripe berry]

Also, just because Ike is Quentin doesn't mean Quentin was Ike, Ike is Carly's interpetation of what they knew of Quentin

[stiff spire]

Ike has a little bit of a walrus type mustache while Quentin has more like a Dr. Eggman mustache

they could've somehow be similar their hairstyles are sorta the same

[ripe berry]

Just like with Forest Protectors seeming to be a interpetation of the Guest but not actually the Guest

(Also just gonna say Beatrix wasn't in Book 4 since she probably wasn't created yet, just putting that out there)

[shell gull]

This is Ike

This is HG Quentin

Very similar I do say

[ripe berry]

Still Goldy is right in that the Mustache is different

Also Ike doesn't have glasses

The image of Ike looks more like the Clipboard Image in HG but still it's very clear the characters have some differences

[stiff spire]

I used to think that Ike changed his name to Quentin and changed his mustache

during the Hello Guest era

[ripe berry]

(We do not talk about Quentin's Eye Color being different here)

[shell gull]

Well I mean who knows he might’ve not been wearing them in the picture but who knows it’s just a theory rn

[stiff spire]

wait

did the books ever explain what color Ikes eyes were?

[ripe berry]

(that's just how concept art Quentin looks like (and the Clipboard uses Concept Art))

[ripe berry]

Never said if I remember right

[stiff spire]

oh yeah

I'm gonna go with a guess to say Ike's eyes were brown or something

[ripe berry]

Either Brown or Green (only putting Green out there since Brown Eye Quentin seems to have been a design mistake they chose to never fix)

Those are my guesses for Ike's Eye Color

[stiff spire]

true

if they did continue HG I'm guessing we'd probably get some kind of plot twist

tied to Ike

Hello Guest just had so many unanswered questions

[ripe berry]

Like the Trapdoor under the Security Post

or the Mill

[stiff spire]

oh yeah the trapdoor

hello guest was a cool game but they turned it into an open world game I mean the decision was nice but hello guest felt really nice and eerie

like it would've probably made people think HN can be scary again

[shell gull]

Maybe the ending would’ve been HG Quentin getting mauled in the tunnels

[stiff spire]

that's what I would say

[ripe berry]

Got a feeling that was made into the Tunnels for the Books

[stiff spire]

HG had Rated T as its placeholder rating

it probably would've been Rated T ngl it just seemed like one

[shell gull]

All they have to do is make the guest stalk you at nighttime in HN2 and it will be scary again

[stiff spire]

literally the Guest almost claws MITH

with his sharp gloves

[shell gull]

Gotta go

[stiff spire]

cya

[ripe berry]

cya

[ripe berry]

Yeah

[stiff spire]

the fight scene was epic in HG

[ripe berry]

Too bad they decided to not even show it in HGA1

[stiff spire]

just imagine how Hello Guest would've been if they never made it into HN2 it probably would've answered a ton of questions from the books

I mean HN2 will definitely answer some questions in future updates

[ripe berry]

You had to go through the files or use a mod just to view arguably the best cutscene created for HN2

[stiff spire]

hello guest was really scary and also they tried out something new I liked the stalking AI

[ripe berry]

Yeah, too bad those are non-canon because they "dOn'T aDaPt WeLl To AnImAtIoN"

[ripe berry]

Yeah, because they just reset the lore so they could make a cartoon

[stiff spire]

the guest will probably have this stalking AI once he comes back

Gordon Cleave may not even be called Gordon Cleave anymore

[ripe berry]

Those Questions are about what from the books is being kept in the canon

[stiff spire]

Lucy Yi is still probably canon to HN

[ripe berry]

Buddy, he was never in the games, he could be non-canon now

[stiff spire]

no I meant he was in the books my mistake

[ripe berry]

The closest character to him is MitH

and he only still exists because SN Event from 2 years ago

[stiff spire]

yup

[ripe berry]

Yeah, being in HE and SN kinda makes that the case

[stiff spire]

MITH will most likely be an important story addition to HN2 if they do add him back which I think they will

[ripe berry]

They prob won't

They got Missing Journalist to replace him

[stiff spire]

wouldn't make sense but you may be right

[ripe berry]

They could easily wipe MitH from the canon and never use him again

[stiff spire]

they keep changing the story for HN since a lot of stuff already got retconned and changed

the HN lore is confusing to understand

since the books aren't canon anymore

I mean some of it is still

[ripe berry]

Yep

[stiff spire]

Nickys parents are still canon probably

[ripe berry]

Just need to make the SN event be another character we don't knowmuch about like the Missing Journalist andhe'd be gone

[ripe berry]

pulls out RBBArchives and you're right

(For context they're name-dropped by something in the RBBArchives)

[hazy slate]

did random user make this model?

[stiff spire]

wait where does it say I never actually looked at it in full detail

nvm I found it

[ripe berry]

Second sentence

[stiff spire]

thx though

[ripe berry]

Stop spamming that image or a mod might mute/ban you

It's not even on-topic since that's not even a actual in-game model

[stiff spire]

curious about this part

[ripe berry]

or anything from or officially relating to the Game, that's a fan model that if anything goes in

[ripe berry]

(Talking to Theodore Masters Peterson)

[ripe berry]

Perhaps they plan to give more details about characters as we meet them in the AS

[stiff spire]

yeah

[ripe berry]

I mean the Under Construction tape leads to the AS Website

[stiff spire]

oh yeah it does

[ripe berry]

So it's gotta be connected to the AS somehow

[stiff spire]

I wonder if Mayor will sound like his audio cassette or something similar to it

for some reason I imagine the Mayor's voice to be like Lotso's from Toy Story 3

he just has the vibe

[ripe berry]

Like when we meet Mr. Otto in Episode 3B they'll add a page for Otto, or when whatever sub-episode of Episode 3 we meet Leslie in is released they add a page for Leslie

[stiff spire]

happy guy on the outside but probably evil in the inside

[ripe berry]

I mean.... he IS a cultist

Probably new-lore's version of Marvin Tavish

[stiff spire]

I agree

they'll probably keep his name as Tavish

unless they retcon his name to something else

[ripe berry]

Just like how Keith Nielsen is new-lore Keith Newsom as confirmed by Devlog 3

[stiff spire]

yup

[ripe berry]

Probably keep his last name Tavish but change his first name

Since they only need to keep the part people will recognize it seems (Newsom is mainly called Keith by the books so that's prob why they kept the first name)

[stiff spire]

true

Gerda will most likely have a German name if they do reveal her full name

[ripe berry]

Makes sense

[stiff spire]

I can imagine her name like Gerda Von Baron

or something

[ripe berry]

Then again these are the "World Class Writers" we're talking about

[stiff spire]

you're right

[ripe berry]

They'll probably do something no one expects with her like make her related to Leslie or smth

(which'd make her name Gerda Leslie unless they retcon Leslie to be a first name)

[stiff spire]

I can imagine them making Gerda Theodore's childhood friend that she forgot about

I actually feel like that might happen for some reason

[ripe berry]

Let's look at the Age difference

[stiff spire]

They both came from Germany most likely

[ripe berry]

Theodore is 50-57

Gerda's in her 30's

[stiff spire]

it could be possible that they met at some point

yeah

[ripe berry]

Theodore still has potential evidence that he could've been born in RB depending on how much Mayak lore they keep

However there's a chance he was born in Germany

Then again Gerda was probably born in RB

At the very least she's there at around 10 years old

(Cite notation: this article from the RBBArchives)

Since she's one of the Trick or Treaters (most likely Alien Kid) she was in RB at around 10 years old

So there's a chance she and Theodore could've met when Theodore was in his 30's

Doesn't seem likely but it's possible

[shell gull]

Back

[ripe berry]

Welcome back

[shell gull]

Why wouldn’t he be born in RB

Oh right

…

AS

[ripe berry]

So what do we talk about

[shell gull]

Idk

There’s no big news

[ripe berry]

I mean there's whatever the GA Coins actually do

[ripe berry]

We've only gotten hints at what they do

[stiff spire]

sorry if I didn't respond earlier I had to do something

[shell gull]

Yeah

[ripe berry]

It's ok

[lapis sonnet]

alright ya'll

I have been inactive on this server for weeks

what did I miss bruh

also I have a new theory about the current timeline

and I wanna discuss the AS new teasers, patch 6 lore updates, etc.

[lapis sonnet]

yeah with the new timeline the books are basically their own thing now

so the books have versions of characters from the current retcon/timeline

instead of quentin we got norman darby

[shell gull]

The sewers are catacombs basically the new lore tunnels, the tunnels still exist but most likely are part of the catacombs.

Also There’s a GAC in there which means someone died in there, most likely Missing Journalist.

[lapis sonnet]

Oh that's interesting, we know that the tunnels still exist in the new lore since we got a teaser for AS showing what looks like the tunnels

[shell gull]

Also the Cult picture in the museum

[lapis sonnet]

Yeah I think it's for missing journalist

[shell gull]

Also the Blueprint is most likely for a content expansion update

[lapis sonnet]

Yes, and honestly I feel like the retcon version of the luck devices from the books is just the golden apple coins

but also that wouldn't make sense since they represent death

not lunk

*luck

so idk

[shell gull]

Well No the current theory suggest that the GAC give you like 1+ luck, which could explain why Ted is collecting them as he’s trying to gain luck to outweigh his cursed bad luck.

[lapis sonnet]

Oh that's a good theory! That's likely

Ur right

[shell gull]

Which explains why the cult filled the Raven Statue with them as a offering o the guest (Murder)

[shell gull]

Well No, don’t give me credit

Give credit to the lore masters who came up with it and fit it together

[lapis sonnet]

kk

Also I have a new timeline theory

While I was inactive it got me thinking right

The books are it's own thing now, so now the current timeline is AS and games

[shell gull]

Well, Books are like the base, they give you the main knowledge, AS tells us what is still canon from the base of the books.

[lapis sonnet]

Yeah, but I got this theory

[shell gull]

Give it

[lapis sonnet]

When they make the HN1 Remake, some people think it'll be remade as a big content update. I highly doubt this, I think it'll be released as a seperate game (maybe called Hello Neighbor: Remastered?) but when it is made, if they change it to fit the AS, and it isn't an update but rather another game so the old one is still playable, then theoretically you could include hn1 in the "old timeline" (books and graphic novels) and maybe in the "new timeline" it'll have games, new HN1, AS, etc.

and think about it. In hn1, act 3 house is part of a dream. but now, in AS, it's "irl" and canon. so...

[shell gull]

That’s most likely the case also it would most likely be called Hello Neighbor: Remake, but I think it will be in the Game Lore version not AS, and what I mean by that is like stuff like, Nicky’s house being across the street, as in the games it is.

[lapis sonnet]

yeah ig, it's just I assumed that if they did make a remake they would fit it as the AS (trinity accross the street, etc.) but the fact nicky lives across the street in HN2 still, despite AS and HN2 being connected kinda disproves it

Honestly I just wish it was two timelines, games and AS, and the other, books and "old hn1"

[shell gull]

Yeah

Also they most likely blocked off that catacomb to make sure no one would find it

Explaining why there’s a hole puzzle to get to it

[lapis sonnet]

well yeah ofc

[shell gull]

Also mayor was most likely the one who did it

[lapis sonnet]

Yeah

[shell gull]

Also we now have proof the Mayor is Tavish

[lapis sonnet]

but whats up with the games? I thought TB said it was the same canon as the AS

[lapis sonnet]

explain

[shell gull]

They said they interlude with connections

[lapis sonnet]

So are they all 3 different timelines?

just with some little connections

[shell gull]

The Fountain the Park is owned by The Mayor, and what’s on top of the fountain, a golden apple, not only that I just remembered the mayor has mini golden apples around his house.

[shell gull]

Well kinda Games and AS are connected just some differences here and there.

[lapis sonnet]

well yeah i thought this was obvious (no offense)

[lapis sonnet]

so... 3 different timelines?

[shell gull]

Yeah but now it’s more obvious

[lapis sonnet]

i guess that is nice to hav

*have

[shell gull]

Yes they are different timelines but are connected in a lot of ways

[lapis sonnet]

man that kinda sucks

I think it's better if the games were the same timeline as either the books or AS

[shell gull]

Games is a AS timeline just some miniature change of details, such as Nicky’s house nothing big lore changing.

[lapis sonnet]

(kinda, some of the changes are a little huge

[shell gull]

Kinda

[lapis sonnet]

to the point where u say to yourself how even though games is an AS timeline, there's so much book related stuff (especially older games) to where theres the same amount of similarities the games have with the books that the AS has with the games

and at that point it could be part of any timeline, or it's own

[shell gull]

Yeah

[lapis sonnet]

I think that no matter how many new content we get, no matter how many times we ask TB about it, we'll always just get the answer "canon is a flexible term", and this is bc honestly, TB doesn't even have a solution to these plot holes

so to have the best result and cleanest timeline possible, the best is to probably just assume they are 3 different timelines

because then u have no plot holes, but a little bit of a less interesting story

but it's the outcome that makes the most sense

[shell gull]

Well I mean Alex definitely wants AS and Games to be connected

[lapis sonnet]

exactly, which is why he needs to start fixing plot holes rather than making more 💀

[shell gull]

Yeah

[lapis sonnet]

if he wants that make the HN1 remake fit the AS

change the house across the street in HN2 as part of a content update

guess i gotta change my timeline now..

honestly with this new realization I might change the whole layout

[shell gull]

Lol

Also

There’s also the blueprint

[lapis sonnet]

There's many theories about this blueprint but it's probably just a map for the catacombs but also some sort of plan

I think the catacombs/sewer isn't finished yet and they are planning and working on it

[shell gull]

Prob a content expansion

[lapis sonnet]

Eh, teaser to a content expansion/map of catacombs/plan for catacombs

if we are talking lore

but it's just a teaser at most

[shell gull]

Yeah

[lapis sonnet]

working on my timeline rn, I wanted to make the layout a bullet-point type thing but I can't fit 3 almost like lists on one vertical "page"

so it's not the cleanest layout

[lapis sonnet]

Again about the books having their own versions of game characters,

another is Missing Journalist is basically game version of Ike

Officer Leslie is game version of Officer Tapps

[lapis sonnet]

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1QsIc7oliZeAWVmP-HLDOGB-qzrKNCTkNW8TObTk9bKw/edit?usp=sharing

Updated Timeline

Completely reworked how it was made, Now seperated into 3 different timelines in a nice order

[shell gull]

👍🏻

[wicked heath]

it rlly just some sort of layout

[wheat sphinx]

Me replying to an almost year old stuff be liek:
That voice is from Mr. Meat by cringy kepler horrible games (ig you obviously know it). Idk I just wanted to say.

[lapis sonnet]

serves as a guide to new fans

and i provided dates

but if I want it to be a timeline, not a list, I might add short summaries of everything to them

[pale urchin]

Mr meat voice be ps1ing the whole performance

[wheat sphinx]

Yeah we think same

[uncut mulch]

This connects to the animated series

[shell gull]

Well in the Canon lore of Quentin’s Journey, he’s never caught or spotted by any of the people, the only canon time he gets spotted is when Ted caught him in the Attic, that’s also the only canon time he’s caught.

[shell gull]

Well yeah the Sewers are catacombs

[uncut mulch]

I think it was episode 3

I cant wait for it anymore

[shell gull]

Yeah Nicky comes across a tunnel

[uncut mulch]

Ik

Do you know when episode 3 comes out

[shell gull]

The tunnels are connected to areas that are attached to sewer areas that are blocked off for cult reasons, these are catacombs.

[shell gull]

Alex said like

Here lemme check

[uncut mulch]

So he did tell?

[shell gull]

Yeah I can’t find it but he said sometime Spring ep 3,4 and 5 would come out

[uncut mulch]

Spring

That’s like a week away

Nicky is back yay

So u wanna hear my theory

[ripe berry]

Yeah

[uncut mulch]

I think scout is the traitor

Mr Peterson has the cookies scout was selling

Plus it was either her or delroy

It just adds 🔝l

Up*

Its just a theory

Also I think there may be more

Than just hello neighbor stuff in the series

Maybe flashbacks and stuff

And lots of other stuff that add up

[ripe berry]

I'm pretty sure he meant that the kids think there's a traitor

not that there actually was a traitor

[uncut mulch]

If I was one of them I would say that

When I saw the vr trailer

There was also catacombs

[ripe berry]

found the message #hello-neighbor message

[uncut mulch]

So maybe the vr game is like playing a game but the game is the animated series

I 100% think the traitor is scout

[ripe berry]

The VR Game will be based off Episode 6

So yes

[uncut mulch]

Well atleast im kind of correct

About it

Wait

Whats episode 6 about

[ripe berry]

Also you'd think if there was a actual traitor they'd not be in HNVR

[uncut mulch]

Or maybe Peterson is just smart

[ripe berry]

The Rescue Squad from SN saving Nicky, leading into the plot of HN2

[uncut mulch]

The teaser with the mayor

I think we finally get to see Peterson talk

[uncut mulch]

There is a traitor

Vr is just breaking in

Secret neighbor is rescuing

[ripe berry]

The Episode will probably end like this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ogjq1s1Fe4

[uncut mulch]

Nah

[ripe berry]

Secret Neighbor is the planning phase

[uncut mulch]

Peterson goes to jail

Planning phases are always the best

[ripe berry]

As confirmed by Rocket Event

[snow mauve]

Mr. Peterson is the killer!!!!!!

[uncut mulch]

Plus

We get to see officer Leslie

Taxidermist

And maybe the baker

[ripe berry]

Notice how they only think there's a Traitor during the Planning Phase and (seemingly) not during the events of HNVR

[uncut mulch]

And kayak

[snow mauve]

Gerda

[snow mauve]

Mayak

[uncut mulch]

My phone keeps auto correcting

Gerda is honestly a weird name

[ripe berry]

His name is Otto, just so you know

[uncut mulch]

Ik

My phone auto corrects the stuff

[ripe berry]

This implies they thought there was a traitor but there wasn't

[uncut mulch]

It makes me look stunning id

Mr Peterson is just really smart

[uncut mulch]

Are you talking about the vr trailer

[ripe berry]

If there's a Traitor I feel like they'll be the one to die in AS Ep. 6

[uncut mulch]

I don’t know anything about it

[ripe berry]

Yes

Everyone is in the HNVR Trailer that's in SN

[uncut mulch]

There will be forest protectors if there is mayak

And mayak storm

[snow mauve]

Mayak is a weather station

[uncut mulch]

Somehow they are trying to make it make sense

Mayak event

You know

The giant raven circle

And purple thunder

[snow mauve]

The purple thunder that's leading to mayak (the weather station)

[uncut mulch]

And somehow it’s gonna make sense

[uncut mulch]

No

Maybe it was the unidentified kid

The kids can’t die

I think mr Peterson is nice

[snow mauve]

Nope

[uncut mulch]

When he’s not trying to hide stuff

He gave trinity cookies

[snow mauve]

Likely poison them

[uncut mulch]

And I don’t know why he’s in her house maybe parents like him in

[ripe berry]

and if Scout is a traitor he should know full well Trinity is diabetic

[uncut mulch]

He would never

[snow mauve]

Mhm sure

[ripe berry]

So pick your poison

[uncut mulch]

Person?

[ripe berry]

He purposefully tries to kill Trinity or Scout isn't a Traitor

[uncut mulch]

Maybe the traitor is the unidentified kid

There’s no traitor in the rescue squad

[ripe berry]

The unidentified kid will probably be another character we already know of

[uncut mulch]

Know how Peterson transforms in an?

Secret neighbor*

Maybe he does that in the animated series

[ripe berry]

The Game is the planning phase

Kid's imagination

[snow mauve]

Mr. Peterson can't transform into anything lmao

[uncut mulch]

Maybe he kidnapped one of the rescue squad members

And just

Disguised as them

[ripe berry]

Also it's not even Peterson in SN

[uncut mulch]

Greatest plot twist

[ripe berry]

It's the Shadow from HN1

[uncut mulch]

What

I forgot about shadow

[snow mauve]

Kids imagination

[uncut mulch]

In the basement there will most likely be the shadow

[ripe berry]

When you kill Peterson in SN it turns into the Shadow

[snow mauve]

The shadow isn't real y'know

[uncut mulch]

The shadow is just negative emotions

[ripe berry]

The Shadow, officially called the Thing, is just a representation of fears unless they do a retcon to that

[uncut mulch]

Yes

Cuz Peterson lost his family

I feel like all this

Connects with hn2

Honestly idk what is going to happen

[ripe berry]

the TV Show?

[uncut mulch]

Yes

In the tv show

[snow mauve]

Um no, he's just a fear

[ripe berry]

It's literally the same universe

[uncut mulch]

Potato potato

Yea ik

[ripe berry]

AS is meant to tie HN1, SN, HE, HNVR, and HN2 together

[uncut mulch]

Yea ik

But I don’t fully understand the vr or hn2

I never played it or anything

I think Quentin’s in it

Maybe he will interact with the kids

Or he just gets his own episodes

About him

Maybe the kids will get a cameo

[ripe berry]

Quentin will be in AS

[uncut mulch]

Also officer Leslie gets hit by a shovel

[ripe berry]

It's been confirmed at this point

[ripe berry]

and somehow survives because it's from Episode 3 but he cameos in HN2 which is post-Episode 6

[uncut mulch]

I think trinity getting chased in the graveyard is episode 4

And mayak is episode 5

[ripe berry]

Mayak is Episode 7

[sinful flint]

Quentin survived it oo

[uncut mulch]

Is that so?

[ripe berry]

Episode 5 is where Petersonhas the Cookies

[uncut mulch]

I thought it was 3

[ripe berry]

The images support it

[uncut mulch]

Somehow the writes will tie everything together on how Peterson has made the act 3 house

In like 5 episodes

Each episode is exactly a day in the animated series

[ripe berry]

That's where Leslie, Delroy/Bagger, and Mr.Otto are introduced across 3 Sub-episodes

[uncut mulch]

I think there will be a part 2

And episode 3 will be all about enzo

[ripe berry]

Episode 4 is HN1 Act 1