lore-discussion

[shell gull]

That’s cultist

[deep yarrow]

have you ever reversed the video?

also why does scout have a missing poster?

[deep yarrow]

yeah

but what does Mr. Peterson have to do with that?

oh yeah

Aaron was traumatized when his mom died

RIP

but anyways

[shell gull]

Cuz his family was cursed by them

The curse was bad luck

[deep yarrow]

how can someone be cursed with bad luck?

so Gerda was also cursed?

oh wait

so that's why Mr. Peterson almost got crushed by that giant crow sculpture, and part of the reason why Aaron escaped in act 2, later to be captured again

sh1mp?

[shell gull]

Bro you need to catch up

Read the books

No Gerda wasn’t cursed

[deep yarrow]

oh

[shell gull]

The cultist hated Teds parents so they cursed their family

[deep yarrow]

oh

[shell gull]

Brb

[deep yarrow]

k

[crude dew]

I thinkk? waaay back then

[ancient nymph]

is the AS canon?

because in the AS Nicky isn't at the house in front of Theodore's

and in HN 2 at the tree house there are the blueprints of the "gadgets" Nicky did in the books

so the Nicky trilogy of books is canon

so, is AS canon?

also, is Reset Day canon??

[crude dew]

to quote AlexN, canon is a flexible term
so
the AS is canon
but it retcons everything else which was created before it
so at this point, people just shouldn't take everything too seriously

[ripe berry]

Tapes were changed?

[unkempt sleet]

Yea, All the casettes have new audio now

[ripe berry]

So what is the new audio

[unkempt sleet]

They're not one audio separated into different casettes like before, i think
Theres different things
And theres a person speaking wayron croobian in one casette

[ripe berry]

Someone get a translator (and no I ain't grabbing mine mine's outdated and cancelled) we've got some work to do

[crude dew]

unlike in the radio in Hello Engineer! funny

[dusk sedge]

For what

[ripe berry]

for finding out what this Wayron Croobian this one guy's speaking might be

[crude dew]

good luck, it's very hard to even understand one word

[shell gull]

Prob the news

Sounds like the news at least

[wicked heath]

do you think it is wayron croobian? Cus i heard Teperson

[ripe berry]

We all think it's Croobian

[strange lance]

Observatory lore :) we don't know exactly what Ted's powering there but it's safe to say it has to do with time travel/loops

[prime breach]

This could be a complete shot in the dark, but I think the guy we hear speaking in the first clip could be the Hat Guy from the Alphas, since at the end of Alpha 1 you could see him standing by a telephone similar to what we hear at the end of the tape, plus whoever's speaking doesn't sound like anyone we currently see in Raven Brooks.

So I think it's probably this guy on the phone talking with or about Peterson (Teperson), then getting mad and hanging up at the end.

[shell gull]

MITH isn’t canon.

At least currently

Even though some key parts of HG are

[shell gull]

So since we know the new tape audio is of the mayor trying to get mr Peterson with the help of Neilson

And Ted having evidence

My guess is Ted has evidence of them being cultist and summoning the guest

Man it sucks being a lore enthusiast and playing on consoles rn

[hazy slate]

Don't forget SN

he could still be canon because of that

[manic dirge]

when was he in sn? i forgot

[hazy slate]

he is an event

[manic dirge]

ohhh ok

[shell gull]

I’m that’s why I said currently since we don’t see him much

But I hope he comes to the FG as a side quest character

[hazy slate]

You said he wasn't canon

SN makes him canon

unless they delete that event

[shell gull]

I said currently afterwards and plus they haven’t mentioned him at all

So for now it’s safe to leave MITH out of the way

But since some key elements in HG are canon that means he can have a possible return

[winter pilot]

Any chance hat guy could be Dale Tapps?

[ripe berry]

ahem we also don't know how the Missing Journalist sounds like

[ripe berry]

Higher chance he was Gordon Cleave

[prime breach]

Wait where was this revealed?

[loud tartan]

at the patch 4 update

[tribal talon]

Hello Neighbor 2 Patch 4

[crude dew]

HG is no more, let them go
the accident was 3 years ago

I'm actually expecting Smith to be removed from SN, I mean...what the man do there :((

[shell gull]

Yeah but key elements are still in the canon such as Mill, Mayak Storms and Night Shift Guard

[unkempt sleet]

Mayak storms are canon, but im not too sure about the other ones

[tribal talon]

Mill

Is not

Canon

[shell gull]

Yeah but the elements in it are

[crude dew]

tornado is not canon to the HN universe

[shell gull]

Oh dang

Well the doc got updated but it was kinda rushed I added HN2 now: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1-nvlX7K7ljW_pXHPHPFJZmIX79Gs_Jew2_Z2J2eCzxE/edit

[toxic mist]

is the cavenoises one from inside the tunnels

[lapis sonnet]

the dude from the books? honestly liked that guy

[shell gull]

I was thinking that

[ripe berry]

Hey, just a little thing: You forgot HN1 Act 1, Secret Neighbor, and HN1 Act 2

[lapis sonnet]

me personally im excited for when the hn2 updates finish migrating from bug fixes and game improvements to new content lore-wise, so far it's been bug fixes and new jumpscares but anything lore related in the updates was the vhs tapes.

maybe patch #5 will have smth big

we'll see

[shell gull]

Ahh of course

Need to add HN1

Prob not gonna do SN since AS is supposed to show what happens during that time but I will add it at some point

[shell gull]

Might add only act 2s once we don’t really know what happens with act 1 in AS

[winter pilot]

Act 1 could be one of Nicky's dreams

[shell gull]

No, just no.

[crude dew]

haha it was just a dream! 😉

😐

[tame quartz]

have you guys seen the leaked website

its rather unfortunate, that we the lore masters of Hello Neighbor, got our website leaked.

[lapis sonnet]

wha??

[lapis sonnet]

what website

whats the password for the rbbarchive on the hn2 website???

nvm

[unkempt sleet]

The password is "HATCHERYWINGATE"

[lapis sonnet]

yeah already got it

ty anyway tho

[lapis sonnet]

man i wish we got hello guest as a game or at least alpha 2 : (

from what i know about it with the mill and everything it sounded like the biggest hello neighbor game yet, and the lore would've been insane!

honestly if i was in charge of HN,

i would make hello guest the 3rd and final game and make it tie in with hn2, and make it an ending to the series answering all lore questions

and then id do something crazy

TB would make a whole new game also named Hello Neighbor, but it wouldn't be a retcon or remake. it'd be what the early alphas of HN was gonna be with the realistic artstyle and everything, and there'd be no lore and it would be simple and nostalgic. it would be like a goodbye to the HN franchise. idk, crazy idea I had. it'd be seperate from all story and be its own standalone spinoff. it'd be like the prototype that nobody got to play thats in the first trailer

W or L?

ty

[lapis sonnet]

hey im very confused

who the heck is gerda?

[hazy slate]

the baker

[lapis sonnet]

O

whats the lore with her

[shell gull]

She was caught in a storm during Halloween with her friends and the cultist would’ve gotten them and Gerda was rescued but her friends went missing

She’s one of the Halloween Kids

It’s hard to tell who but in my opinion it’s either Guest kid or Alien kid

[languid geyser]

thank you this is exactly what i needed.

[winter pilot]

The real thing according to the books happened at night

And the whole basement is messed up

Nicky would've imagined how the whole basement in his dreams looked like, as he has only been there once

[shell gull]

Yeah, in the game the ending looks different depending on time of day, the canon time was the evening.

[shell gull]

Yeah cuz it’s an underground theme park it always looks messed up

[shell gull]

Your welcome I’m still working on it but this is based on The Full Timeline which is currently the best Canon version of the Universe

[winter pilot]

The weirdest thing is that not everything is canon 🤣

[shell gull]

Yeah cuz of retcon but this is retcon proof

[stiff spire]

I think the mayor could be the one talking on the phone in one of the audio tapes

[prime breach]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3JqMKaHOflI
Thoughts on this?

[crude dew]

you know
HN is not a franchise material to begin with
the story was a bit too complex and heavy for that
look at the base plot of Sonic and Mario for example. those can be franchises, they have a very easy plot.

HG was going to be the perfect sequel (now that they were kinda forced to make one)
BUT-.....

[shell gull]

He is

He’s talking to Neilson on the phone, looking for Ted, prob since he has evidence of the cultist.

[stiff spire]

yeah

[crude dew]

I realized I do not want the story to go in a direction, where it's just an endless showdown between the Petersons and the cultists
like what the f

[raw sail]

Neilson

😭

[pale urchin]

There's an exact problem with the whole plot, and its existence. First off, there combining the book series, AS, and the game, and making them fit in 1 story, which is already a big issue to start with, if they would've thought of the AS being something different, they could've come up with something that isn't based on the books, which like I said, tried to fit in, but failed

[crude dew]

I don't know, why are they making things different
why can't they stick to base plot elements at least (deaths, how the kidnapping REALLY happened, etc)
iT's not that hard bruh

[shell gull]

Sorry my bad NIELSON even though that’s not how it is in the books

[shell gull]

Anyways was thinking, if the guest was a consciousness that was turn into a physical being by the cultist, why would the guest run to the golden apple amusement park?

I mean we know it ran off and was disobedient

[thin wadi]

The guest:

https://tenor.com/view/my-goals-are-beyond-your-understanding-reverse-flash-eobard-thawne-the-flash-gif-16637212

[shell gull]

That’s the lore for him

[shell gull]

Also anyone gonna talk about how they changed the lore from being that the Peterson car crash was from a pizza truck to “Unknown”

[tame quartz]

If that's true, that means Gerda has to be below 20 years old right?

Cause in HN2 she's shown as a adult

so when did the storm happen?

[shell gull]

She’s in her mid 20s-30s

[shell gull]

We don’t know

[raw sail]

I'm pretty sure it's spelled "nielsen"

cause that's how it's spelled in HN2

[glacial whale]

Didn’t know this was school

Let alone a grammar class

[stiff spire]

it's like the mandela effect

[raw sail]

you're lucky I'm not one of those people who get offended by mispronouncing

I can tolerate it as long you learn from it

[glacial whale]

I’ll speak and write how I want. Doesn’t matter if it’s the correct way because you get what I’m saying

[raw sail]

fair point

[silver vine]

yes

tell

[winter pilot]

https://tenor.com/view/hello-guest-the-kra-hello-neighbor-hello-neighbor2-the-guest-gif-20969571

[strange lance]

Files. It's called everything but mayak/metostation/weather station. It's always called something relating to space, being Observstory, planetarium, and cosmostation.

And I made a image showing how it works

Cause Ted added on that stuff himself

But yeah it's quite simple

So there

These are concept arts of course but this is how mayak would've been like before this version of HE was canned

[crude dew]

there's no way on earth that Gerda is younger than me
she must be 30+ bruh

didn't mean to ping

[shell gull]

I mean she looks like she’s in her 30s, but if that was the case than Neilson would be in his mid 60s, and the article says he’s a young cop, most Likely 20s.

[crude dew]

that could work

[light citrus]

blob:https://www.helloneighbor2.com/631d3e8f-c3f4-48f7-9c3b-5201558dface i just found this link in the script of the rbbarchives website

anyone know what this means

[median stirrup]

yeah I sure love 404 page not found

[light citrus]

put the "blob:" at the start

i think it might be a error screen but i'm not sure

[shell gull]

Remember when people got mad at me for thinking the museum was abandoned, and then the lore package came.

Cuz I do

[glacial whale]

Who thought it wasn’t abandoned?

I thought it was clear that it was

[shell gull]

Don’t wanna ping but some people you see a lot in the server

[opal steeple]

looked it up, its just something to do with debugging and stuff i'm pretty sure. no lore to be found

[unborn coyote]

timeline

[shell gull]

Game timeline kinda but Full Timeline completely wrong

[winter pilot]

Did act 3 even happen?

[hollow oasis]

1 question, in hello neighbor 2 there are missing pages from the kid we play in hello neighbor 1, but in the act 2 we escaped, why are there missing pages from us in hello neighbor 2? Or are the missing pages old and just left on the floor all the time

[glacial whale]

Well they didn’t take them down just like that. He just escapes as Quentin arrives

[hollow oasis]

But the neighbor had this wall (dont know whats the english word for "Zaun" ist) and after we escaped the neighbor had to make the wall away, it takes a little time to do that

[glacial whale]

The wall wasn’t actually there

It’s not real

[tribal talon]

it was an hallucination of nicky

[glacial whale]

What do you mean zaun?

[hollow oasis]

Fence

[hollow oasis]

But if the wall/fence wasnt there why we had to do all the thinks to escape

[shell gull]

His timeline is a bit wrong, but the reason why is cuz act 2 was an exact hour before Quentin arrives at Raven Brooks.

[shell gull]

Not everything exactly happened the way it went, all that actually happened is Nicky broke out the basement and ran home

[hollow oasis]

but where you get the information from that is happened how you explained (I just want to know everything about hello neighbor xd)

[shell gull]

The books and the Animated Series

[hollow oasis]

ah kk, i think I should watch the series xd, thanks

[pale urchin]

How stupid it is to see them get angry for you giving an opinion

[ripe berry]

The Fence is a representation of the Peterson Household

[shell gull]

I never said stupid?, I was just saying it had whole entire argument and then the second people saw the lore package, they went quite.

[pale urchin]

Ik, im saying its stupid for them to argue about something small

[shell gull]

Oh ok

[lapis sonnet]

ill be working on a full HN timeline thats as accurate as possible

wont include AS since its a retcon/seperate timeline

its going to be a google slide and besides accuracy its gonna be very high quality!

[lapis sonnet]

@silent gorge apologies for the tag, I really am sorry, but I'm very confused about the canon of Hello Neighbor? Are the books canon to the games still?

Again apologies for the tag but can anybody on the team help me out? I just don't know if the Animated Series is canon to the games or what.

[shell gull]

It’s a canon that has elements that connect to the games

[languid geyser]

the animated series, better back this up at a later date.

[shell gull]

Full Timeline, no need.

[viscid portal]

I believe that at the end hello neighbor 2 is a shadow, this is not a journalist at all, but what if it is the neighbor's brother! What do you think?

[urban fulcrum]

the neighbor does not have a brother

[shell gull]

He doesn’t have a brother, but he does have a sister

[viscid portal]

Ok. And what was the sign where a grown-up is drawn and he holds the children, and the other child falls?

[shell gull]

What?

[viscid portal]

Alpha Version

Old version

[shell gull]

That’s an alpha, not Full Game

[viscid portal]

Ok

[silver vine]

the exact MINUTE not hour

cuz Aaron escapes just seconds after Nicky does

and Quentin sees Aaron escape

[shell gull]

Yes but Nicky escaped at the evening, which means it would’ve took an hour for him to break out of the house, probably because he was fending off his dad.

[silver vine]

how do you know he escaped in the evening?

you are aware that the time of the day in act 2 changes right?

you can escape in night time too

[strange lance]

Well considering Aaron escapes right after Nicky in HN2 and it's night there then Nicky escaped at Night

And it would make more sense, no one would be awake to see all the comotion

And then the cops are there the next morning

[shell gull]

True but in the lore it’s at evening, and plus Nicky would’ve had to wake his parents up if it was nighttime, which he didn’t do, and plus this time Ted was ready since he heard Aaron escaping, unlike Nicky, so it was definitely about an hour apart.

[silver vine]

mouse

[silver vine]

can you help me in #hello-engineer

[silver vine]

did anyone confirm that its evening?

how do you know Nicky did not wake his parents?

Ted was ready cuz he saw Nicky escaping, and then heard Aaron escaping too

[shell gull]

Because if you look back at the times in the different games it’s pretty clear, while Quentin is going house to house, the hunt for Nicky was still going, up until in the lore the evening.

[shell gull]

Well Ted was inside his home and spotted Nicky, while he was outside when he heard Aaron breaking out as well, Aaron would’ve been fending him off for a good amount of time, until Quentin arrived.

[crude dew]

read his previous messages
that's it

[hazy slate]

I wonder if the baker is secretly working against the forest protectors

[crude dew]

well she seems to be friends with Nielsen, so
idk
IF Nielsen is a fp
idk I imagine Gerda as a fp

[shell gull]

She is a cultist

[crude dew]

good for her

[shell gull]

Any guesses on where Aaron is in GN2?, from the Full Timeline point of view

[ripe berry]

Depends on the date of GN2 and when Ted's House burns down

I made a guess it was 2035in new lore but it can be anywhere from a few days after HN2 to, like a week before the Time Loop starts in Reset Day

since now Smart-Phones exist during the time of HN2

[shell gull]

Right, any hints in reset day?, my memory of that book is pretty bad.

[ripe berry]

You'd think I'd mention it if there were any

that I remember since I also don't remember too much about Reset Day

[shell gull]

Ahh

[ripe berry]

Even if there was you'd think someone'd mention it by now

[shell gull]

Right

[ripe berry]

Also there's the fact that GN2 was still early in writing when Reset Day was released

[shell gull]

True

[ripe berry]

Since if I remember right Reset Day came out January 2021 and GN2 came out sometime in September 2021

So Reset Day wouldn't be able to properly reference the events of GN2, maybe a early version of the story but not the final version

So we got nothing to establish a date

[hazy slate]

Gerda seems to have a short fuse, and I feel like she could be the vengeful type because of that.

[buoyant arrow]

Gerda probably does self defence classes for f u n

because she doesn’t even need to try

[safe charm]

Hi

[snow mauve]

Lore explaining from Micheal ig

[ripe berry]

So as I was explaining in #hello-neighbor, the timeline of events and lore of HN2 is pretty complicated

[safe charm]

The tapes is so confusing to understand

Like i dont understand anything

In the patch 4 ones

?

[ripe berry]

Sorry, my device is on 0% and got unplugged so I had to turn it back on and rethrow in my password then open up Discord again then throw in my Email and Password

So as I was going to type

[safe charm]

Ok

[ripe berry]

The Patch 4 Tapes take place after Peterson flees his household but while Quentin is still knocked out since we got a translated version of a tape where the Mayor and a Police Officer are talking about how they can't find Peterson and that he seems to have hidden the evidence, I honestly don't got a explanation for the other Patch 4 tapes yet

I've heard them but I honestly got no clue what they're meant to mean

Well, them and whatever the frick THEYCROW is

[safe charm]

The red one with someone diging

Do you have a theory

[unkempt sleet]

If you fasten the blue casette you hear Guest sounds at the end

[ripe berry]

I haven't played the tapes in order yet so no I don't got a theory

other then them perhaps being a recording of someone finding the Tunnels

[safe charm]

The lore of hn 2 is way to vauge in my opinion

[ripe berry]

Good thing the roadmap mentions lore exploration

[safe charm]

Why was their so little lore in the game

[ripe berry]

Their focus was on the AS

[snow mauve]

Cuz they ain't done with the game

[safe charm]

Is the tapes new or unused stuff ?

[ripe berry]

Tapes is new/reused from the Books lore

(reused from the books is referring to Cult rituals and the Tunnels)

[safe charm]

Why did they change the audio

In patch 4

[ripe berry]

So they could give more lore

[safe charm]

So will the old audio not return

Ever

[ripe berry]

Perhaps

or they might repurpose it in the AS

[safe charm]

Im still confused about the nightmares

Are they importent

[ripe berry]

Nightmare #3 definitely is

It's basically a retelling of the history of the Cult

Nightmare #2 is just telling us how Quentin thinks the situation is

and Nightmare #1 is showing Quentin seeming to have a fear of Mr.Peterson

[safe charm]

Please explain i dont understand

Nightmare 3

[ripe berry]

In Nightmare #3 we see Golden Apple Coins fall from the Crow Statue

This serves a duel purpose

[manic dirge]

she is?

[ripe berry]

It both shows what they used in rituals and represents them getting Good Luck from the rituals

then the Crow Statue comes alive and attacks us, representing the Guest being summoned and attacking the Cultists

[safe charm]

Nightmare 2 explain it a bit more

Its kinda confusing

?

[ripe berry]

What really is there to explain about Nightmare #2, Aaron seems to be forced into stuff against his will to Quentin and Peterson seems to just be doing this for fun (hence why his expression never changes)

and Nightmare #1 is understandable as it's just showing Quentin's fear of Mr.Peterson

[safe charm]

Is Ted punishing aaron ?

[ripe berry]

No it's to protect him from the Cult

He can't die if there's nothing to kill him with in the room

[safe charm]

And that he killed his sister

[ripe berry]

I mean, yeah, so it kinda is both

It's a punishment from Aaron's PoV and protection from Ted's PoV

[sinful flint]

why doesn't he just move from the town bruh

[buoyant arrow]

So did Ted really ever go crazy after the events of H&S?

Like not crazy

But

Sort of

You know

coo coo for coco puffs?

[sinful flint]

yes

bro was already crazy before anything happened to him prob

[snow mauve]

I mean he killed a little girl (Lucy Yi) from his amusement park

So he was already coo coo

[hazy slate]

that was an accident that was mostly GAC's fault for rushing the construction of it, and yes I know he has had more incidents before.

[snow mauve]

Yeah

[shell gull]

Yeah?

[shy kindle]

What is wrong with Aaron in hn2? He looks like he went back in time

[crude dew]

maybe he did

at this point, we are not sure about the lore

[small flume]

hey guys i have a proplem in hello neighbor 2 the fish head dissapperd i cant find it i tried everything can someone help its not in its place

[woeful orchid]

#hello-neighbor , this chat is for discussing lore, not game

[woeful orchid]

Yeah, I dont understand why Aaron behaves like 5 year old kid while he is actually 13

[sinful flint]

Maybe he was too scared to talk or smth

Or they just didn't want to hire a voice actor💀

[woeful orchid]

Im not talking about voice. Im talking about his behavior. I dont think 13 years old boy will behave like Aaron in hn2.

[unkempt sleet]

I mean he lost his mother and sister and then his Father locked him up in the basement
I dont think he would be emotionally well at this point. Which would explain why he acts like a scared kid

[shell gull]

In the books he was very mature, but he was acting like that after the amount of trauma Cuz he was very depressed.

[ripe berry]

He still wants revenge on the Cultists, which he can only do if he remains in RB

That's about the only answer I got

(and yes I know it's from a day ago Idc)

[ripe berry]

Yeah

[silver vine]

he wants to get revenge by flooding the town

my theory ^

[ripe berry]

Perhaps

Also tinyCrow: the Roadmap says that they'll add to HN2 "More lore exploration, to shed some light on past and future events of the plot" (I know I said I wouldn't tell you but I am anyways), this means we might get more clarification on Mayak before AS Ep. 18 other then it's appearance in AS Ep. 7

Just mentioning so you know

[shell gull]

I’d love to see Mayak as a new location but I don’t know how it could affect the game, if they don’t I hope they add a telescope on the mayors house and if you aim it at the forest you see Mayak.

In lore wise it prob would be big

[ripe berry]

Mayak is still important to the lore

#hello-neighbor message

[shell gull]

Ik

[wooden spire]

Does the timeline for all the HN games make sense?

[whole tapir]

Who here thinks the books are canon

[shell gull]

No one cause they ain’t and they sorta are through the full timeline

[whole tapir]

ikr this whole group of theorists in a server say they are

[shell gull]

Cuz they aren’t canon, the ceo literally said himself

[whole tapir]

if i told them that they'd say i was a mad man, even though i kinda am

[shell gull]

What? Whatever

[whole tapir]

what you saying what to

[stone plover]

Literally no hello neighbor games has any dialogue unless you count:
grunts
hello neighbor prototype cussing liens

[sinful flint]

Secret neighbor does

And they are some rly goofy lines as well

[stone plover]

Lol what are they

[sinful flint]

There's a neighbor line where he just screams "Get out of my house!"

[stone plover]

Theodore was born in 1955
And reset day takes place when he’s 70
Reset day takes place 2 years into the future ahead of now, 2025.
So that means Mr. Peterson is 68

[shell gull]

Key Found, Key Found, Good Day To You!, HEELP!, Neighbor!, YOURR The Neighbor.

[shell gull]

Actually No HN2 is in the late 2000s

[stone plover]

Proof?

[sinful flint]

Get out of my house!

[shell gull]

Cuz old smart phones and they say cringe all the time

[sinful flint]

I see you...

[stone plover]

They had the same sorta things, also the neighbor dresses in 1970’s clothing

The only thing taking place in the 2000’s is reset day

[shell gull]

And plus you have to mix dates cuz of Full Timeline which puts it in late 2000s

[stone plover]

Hello Neighbor 1 and 2 took place in 1996

not the 2000’s

[shell gull]

No, Reset day was said before AS to be at 2022

[stone plover]

and mr Peterson would’ve been 50, he’s 41 in the games

[shell gull]

Yeah and cuz of retcon reset day is in the 2040s

[stone plover]

Can’t be true, Theodore was born in 1955 and Theodore was 70 during the events of reset day

It’s not 2022

[shell gull]

Where did it say he was born 1955

[stone plover]

Otherwise he’d be 67 which is not accurate

[shell gull]

The author literally said

[stone plover]

Have you read the books..?

[shell gull]

Yes

[stone plover]

Pretty sure 1955

Anyways

[shell gull]

And also retcon

We can’t follow the books but full timeline

And in that case we don’t know his birth

But most likely the 1960s

[stone plover]

I heard 1955, also that only lowers it and makes it more accurate to why Theodore wore the 70’s looking clothing

[shell gull]

He wore it cuz he liked it

[stone plover]

So actually act 3 would’ve been 2006 and he would’ve been 70 at 2015

[shell gull]

And it was easy access

[stone plover]

It’s very specific, I’m pretty sure it takes place before the 2000’s

[shell gull]

No, tell that to the retcon

[stone plover]

Well you said 1945 atm so I’m just saying it’d be 2006

[shell gull]

And then I said there’s the retcon

[stone plover]

Seems kinda weird to have 1945 to then 55 and retcon it

[shell gull]

Listen, current dates in AS are late 2000s which means act 3 would’ve been 2020s which is close to the games dates, which puts reset day in the 2030s to 2040s

GN2 is sometime 2017 since if it was beyond Act 3 wouldn’t make sense since the houses are rundown

This would put HGs lore implications sometime during 2018

[winter pilot]

Imagine being Aaron stuck with his dad for more than 40 years

[unkempt sleet]

We already knew Mayak was gonna be in AS

[sinful flint]

What was AS again?

[hazy slate]

a fancy name for the SN lore destroyer 9000

[sinful flint]

What

[unkempt sleet]

Animated Series

[sinful flint]

Oh

[pale urchin]

Why does this look so 3d than the rest of the show?

[safe charm]

Hi

[tribal talon]

Okay so if Peterson made a “weather machine”

Is it related to our hello neighbor story?

What stopped the machine?

Are there any chance of Aron being free from Peterson?

[shell gull]

Have you ever read the books, YES it’s like a big thing in the lore

[shell gull]

We don’t know where he is after HN2, all we know is he burned down the Peterson house

And Aaron’s dad is Ted so idk why he would leave

[tribal talon]

Hm alright no I didn’t read the books haven’t had time sorry 😔😅

[pale urchin]

They work hard on this picture than the the whole plot of AS

[mighty ember]

true

[wicked heath]

I like how each episodes has a character that says a line clearly advertising games. EP1 had Nicky talking about the funny learning AI

[lyric zephyr]

And the cafeteria lady literally saying "Happy's Humble"

and having the logo everywhere

[mighty ember]

https://tenor.com/view/memento-mori-unus-annus-gif-19399232

oooh buy tinybuild games oooh eat a speedrunners (14.99 on steam!!) bar

[ripe berry]

Yeah, AS is just a cash grab, I think we can all agree on that

[dusk sedge]

"hes always changing things, its kinda like the house is alive.." "he never chases me past his property line! weird huh?"

[silver vine]

did you gorget the books also having references to game mechanics

also GN2 having speedrunners

[strange lance]

Speedrunners has been a thing since forever as a reference, that makes sense

AS's "references" is just blatant advertising

[dusk sedge]

Hello neighbor 2 house

[silver vine]

both speedrunners and totally reliable are age old references

but speedrunners is more older

plus we should'nt forget the references to the game mechanics in the books

box stacking, magnet gun, elevator to Mya's room, fake walls, robotic mannequins, etc.

I wonder if the mannequins are still robotic or thats retconned tooo

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[pale urchin]

And the wasted potiential is they've never done a speedrunners show

[uneven hound]

What if wife was never died in car crash. Then Peterson will never be villain

[lyric zephyr]

Not really, in the books he wasn’t really a good guy even before Diane died

Her dying just made him exponentially worse

[sinful flint]

That family was prob done even without the curse, the toxicity would be real

[slender otter]

Is tinybuild gonna add neural network for real this time?

[lyric zephyr]

Nope, most likely not

[crude dew]

we should rename this fake mayak to something else
this isn't the real mayak for me 😔

not anymore

[lyric zephyr]

Welp, lore's over

Go home guys

Act 3 House is real now

[unkempt sleet]

That doesnt end the lore

[lyric zephyr]

It does!

At least it finishes off what's left of Nikita's lore

[thin wadi]

Huh

Why did they do act 3 house design

Instead of act 2

[lyric zephyr]

Because funny!

[thin wadi]

But act 2

[lyric zephyr]

Which Act 2 still would've broken the lore, just a lil less

[thin wadi]

Exactly, just a little less

Oh I forgot canon is flexible

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[ripe berry]

Where's this from

Oh

[woeful plaza]

I dont understand HN2 lore

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[manic dirge]

no... why

this is sad

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[manic dirge]

why?

[manic dirge]

are you happy that the lore is over

[lyric zephyr]

Nah it's just the new lore now

Nikita's lore is bye bye gone

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[lyric zephyr]

True

The one takeaway that's kinda positive

[lyric zephyr]

Correction, Nikita AND Carly's (mostly)

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[lyric zephyr]

Yeah, the new lore just ain't my thing
Cult storylines and the Guest now being potentially a satanic summonable demon just ain't my thing

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[manic dirge]

this is not good. all of the lore is gone. i dont like that the act 3 house is real. how does he take that all down? is this an exaggerated memory?

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[manic dirge]

and how did the city approve that shit?

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[manic dirge]

still tho. it comes to limit that this is first of all not possible it would fall over like a tower of legos. second how does he take that all down?

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[manic dirge]

when?

send the video

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[manic dirge]

i dont see it

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[ripe berry]

and there's no proof the water room has water in it

So...

[prime breach]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PzSZdAGDGYE&list=PL5Wtxnbdty3usDMRc09nHkgW_dnbZbnf2&index=3

[loud tartan]

no theories

[night dome]

Ok there's something I've been wondering for a long time. What happened to the original premise of Hello Neighbor? Originally you were a newcomer moving across the street from a maniac. Now, you play as a neighbor of Mr. Peterson, and your best friends (who happen to be Mr. Peterson's children) have gone missing. What's up with that? The lore would have been so much easier to understand during the alpha stages.

[shell gull]

I like the idea of the guest and it isn’t “potentially” it is the lore of him and I like it

But I agree new lore is really bad

[silver cargo]

I always thought the hello neighbor story had nothing to do with supernatural.
I always thought there wqs a natural explanation in hello neighbor.

[lyric zephyr]

There was usually. The Guest was the 1 exception, which I could still see it being just a cryptid like Mothman or Bigfoot

Now there’s like, full-on death curses and a summonable bird demon

[silver cargo]

Just in hello neighbor 2 or did the supernatural things also apeard in other games, books and other stuff?

And if so is the shadowman a real thing or just a symbol for fear?

[lyric zephyr]

It wasn’t in any of the games, and the Aaron trilogy did bring in the bad luck curse but it was based in a bit of science

All the supernatural stuff came with HN2 and the Animated Series

The Thing (Shadowman) is just how HN shows fear and trauma, it’s a symbol

[silver cargo]

That kinda ruins hello neighbor for me.
Like many other horror games have that super natural things like FNaF.
At that time you was even able to explain FNaF without anything supernatural.
Now you need supernatural to explain it.

Now that's about to happen with HN...

[lyric zephyr]

Well, FNAF was always supernatural, but it was more basic
Guy kills kids, bodies put in suits, bodies control suits

Now there’s all this over complicated stuff

[silver cargo]

Yes, I actually dont want the same for HN.
Is there maybe another way to explain the guest?

[lyric zephyr]

Not really. A lil supernatural in HN would be cool, but this is full on cult magic at this point
You could explain him differently before, but idk now with the whole audio of the cult chanting and the Guest slowly becoming louder like he’s being summoned can be explained different now

[silver cargo]

Hm, you seem to know a lot about hello neighbor.
Can I ask you more stuff?

[lyric zephyr]

Sure, I don’t know quite everything as I’ve never read the Aaron trilogy fully

But I can try to answer what I know and what I can guess

[silver cargo]

Hm, I saw you saying that Aaron burned down his home?
Why did he do that and when?

[lyric zephyr]

Well, it’s never been confirmed, and we don’t really know if the home does burn down anymore. Before HN2, we’d assumed it was during the ending of HN1 Act 2 where you could hear glass breaking, inferring Aaron escaped

Now we really can’t say

[silver cargo]

Okay ,do you kinda know when HN 2 takes place?

[lyric zephyr]

HN2 takes place directly after HN1 Act 2

At the very most an hour after Nicky escapes

[silver cargo]

After???
I always thought that it takes place after act 1 and then HN 2 takes place.

[lyric zephyr]

Nope, because Nicky had apparently already escaped by the start of HN2 the same with Aaron

[silver cargo]

Can we kinda see Nicky somewhere or is he referenced in any ways?
I mean there are some missinf posters of him and zhe big gates around Petersons house are suddenly gone.

Thats why I also always though that act 2 was just about to happen. After HN 2.

[lyric zephyr]

Oh, Act 2 didn’t actually happen. Nikita (the creator of HN) explained that Act 1 is a real memory, Act 2 is a twisted memory (not everything happened), and Act 3 was all trauma with nothing being real

Act 2 didn’t really happen, no tall fences or a shark room on the house. Just Nicky escaping through the cellar doors in the back

[silver cargo]

OH my god, that changes much to me!
I alway thought since HN 1 released that act 2 was also a real thing.
That info is rly important to me.
Thank you!

[lyric zephyr]

No problem!

[silver cargo]

Is there anything else important about HN 1 that I shouls need to know?

[lyric zephyr]

Not really. Just that Act 3 was all just imagery for Nicky’s trauma. The Basement was real though, in Act 1 anyway. Until HN2 messed that up

Which who knows the basement could be expanded upon again in an update

We don’t know really

[silver cargo]

You know what I always thought?
That petersons house is build on top on a bunker, bc of that twisted basement.

[lyric zephyr]

That’d be a cool explanation honestly, but really it does seem Peterson dug it all out himself somehow

[silver cargo]

Btw, was he the previous owner of this amusement park?

I heard that he is and there is that photo in HN 2.

[lyric zephyr]

Oh, he wasn’t the owner but he was the designer, architect, and head engineer

He designed all the rides for the Golden Apple Company and oversaw their construction

[silver cargo]

What happend after that?
I saw you saying that he wasnt a good guy in general, why?

[lyric zephyr]

Well, in the books at least his rides have killed around 6 people (including Lucy Yi)

And he wasn’t necessarily a very good father in the books either

Which conflicted with Hide and Seek a bit

[silver cargo]

In HN hide n seek he looked like a good one.
What did he do?

[silver cargo]

Yeah.

[lyric zephyr]

He lashed out a few times, called his son an Omen on multiple occasions, his entire family was tense around him, and ofc he also intentionally lured Nicky into the basement to cut out the kid with the most evidence and to give Aaron a “friend”

[silver cargo]

Thats realy twisted, looks like they are changing the story alot.

[lyric zephyr]

Nope, the books were made a long while back

The AS is changing all the lore for everything really

[silver cargo]

The developers are probably trying to adapt the story.

[lyric zephyr]

Nope

They’ve gone on the record saying they’re not using the book story

And many things from the AS conflict with or overwrite stuff from both the books and HN1

[silver cargo]

Like a paralel universe?

Like FNaF also has multiple timeslines.

[lyric zephyr]

Not a parallel universe, the AS seems to be the new lore they’re using now

[silver cargo]

But those timelines explained always a bit from the other timelines.

[lyric zephyr]

At least for HN2 onwards

[silver cargo]

Oof, okay.
Btw the big basement is real right?
Or is this also a twisted memory?

[silver cargo]

Makes sense.

[lyric zephyr]

The big basement was real, isn’t present in HN2 at least.
The books described the basement exactly as it was in HN1 Act 1

Generator with gates blocking a door, a wooden plank hallway with a dirt floor,

[silver cargo]

Maybe there is a secret door in the HN 2 basement?

So just in the lore.

Not in the game itself.

[lyric zephyr]

Maybe

[silver cargo]

Oh yeah, Ik I asked alot at this point, but what that door in the first floor with that many chains on it?

[lyric zephyr]

It’s Mya’s room, at least that’s what it’s called in the files

[silver cargo]

Is there smth important in it?

[lyric zephyr]

Nope, room’s completely empty

It’s fully textured though

Just wallpaper and floor

[silver cargo]

Bruh, why even lock it.

[lyric zephyr]

No idea, guess if they ever want to add more onto the house or they just ran out of time/ideas

[silver cargo]

Or is this room important, so they locked it to make it kinda cryptic.

[silver cargo]

Btw is Myas grave still a thing in HN 2?

I wasnt able to find anything like a grave.

[lyric zephyr]

Nope, it was completely removed

[silver cargo]

I mean it was in the HN 2 beta.

[lyric zephyr]

We don’t know why it was, but it was

[silver cargo]

Ans for the story, is it still a thing?

[lyric zephyr]

We don’t know honestly.

The lore’s been changing a lot between HN2 and the AS

[silver cargo]

Btw another question (Ik now there are to many), what is the mayak house?

And is it still important?

[lyric zephyr]

It’s still important, we just don’t know what for. The Mayak (also known as the Weather Station) may or may not be used to control weather

[silver cargo]

Wheater station?
Why should be that important?

[lyric zephyr]

The Mayak got its name from the original concept art by Nikita (the creator of HN), it being called Mayak-1 (or Lighthouse 1)

[lyric zephyr]

In the books it was built by the Neighbor’s parents, Roger and Adelle Peterson, two scientists who moved to town

The Act 1 house used to be theirs, and was The Neighbor’s childhood home

[silver cargo]

Didn't Peterson actually move to Raven Brooks with his family?

[silver cargo]

Oh!

[lyric zephyr]

Yep. In the books he was born and raised there as a kid, moved away, had a family, then moved back to Raven Brooks after he inherited the house and had to flee Germany bc his ride killed 4 people

[ripe berry]

Yep

[silver cargo]

Oh, thats interesting.
Man hello neighbor has for real a interesting story.
Why do they make it so cryptic anyways (atleast for the games).

[silver cargo]

Funfact: I am from germany.

[lyric zephyr]

Well, the game it’s not too cryptic, just a little vague

Oh cool

[lyric zephyr]

Which at least Nikita had explained Nicky’s story

[ripe berry]

Games just don't do a good job at explaining

[lyric zephyr]

Yeah

Well H&S did

[silver cargo]

Btw where does HN takes place on America or Russia?

[ripe berry]

United States

[lyric zephyr]

Takes place in Missouri!

In America

[ripe berry]

Yeah

[lyric zephyr]

Raven Brooks is a made up town in a real state

[silver cargo]

Interesting, interesting.

Never thought I could learn alot about HN in this short time.

[silver cargo]

What actually happened after act 3?

[lyric zephyr]

Well. Nicky woke up, and got on with his life

[silver cargo]

And Peterson?

[lyric zephyr]

Until Diaries changed that and now he’s back to made up scenarios in his head bc he can’t remember what happened to his best friend

[silver cargo]

Or Aaron?

[ripe berry]

His fate is confusing

[lyric zephyr]

As far as we know he’s dead or just somewhere else

And Aaron we have legitimately no clue

No hints no leads nothing said about Aaron

[silver cargo]

I kinda hope they tell us or give us hints what happend after act 3.

[lyric zephyr]

Well, Diaries does go over that but it’s just Nicky in his bedroom having an existential crisis for some reason

[ripe berry]

Other then theorizing he was the one to burn down the Peterson Household

[lyric zephyr]

Yep we went over that

:)

[silver cargo]

You said, Peterson was in germany?
Why?

Or did I missunderstood smth.

[lyric zephyr]

He was designing a park there

Before he moved back to Raven Brooks he traveled to quite a few countries to design parks

[ripe berry]

He's built parks on 5 continents

[silver cargo]

Interesting.
I think I am out of questions, is there still smth else important to mention?

[lyric zephyr]

Not sure exactly. We do know he has killed at least 6 people using his rides. Though not on purpose, just negligence

[ripe berry]

1 on his first rides (known as Bosco Bay), 4 on the ride in Germany (Ferhen Welt I think it was called?), and 1 on the Golden Apple Amusement Park

[silver cargo]

Mr. Peterson is William Afton.

[lyric zephyr]

Well not even his first ride, one of his earliest

[ripe berry]

Fine, one of his first rides

[silver cargo]

(Just joking).

[lyric zephyr]

Ride Death #1: Kid flung from cart because the turn was too sharp
Ride Deaths #2-5: Log ride flipped over and drowned the 4 people on board.
Ride Death #6: Lucy Yi’s cart derailed and she died on impact.

[silver cargo]

Oh wow, did peterson regret it or was it intentional?

[lyric zephyr]

It was all on accident, but he doesn’t seem to be too upset about it? And in the first ride he denies doing anything wrong (even though he just admitted prior he made the turn too sharp)

And in the books I think it’s brought up that he doesn’t like safety mechanisms bc they slow down his rides

[silver cargo]

Hm, I mean he got away with it (like William Afton).

[lyric zephyr]

Yep, fleeing the countries and letting the companies that hired him take the fall

[silver cargo]

Is there anything else interesting to mention about HN in general?

[lyric zephyr]

Not too sure. The Cult currently in the lore in the books was exposed and disbanded before Nicky even came to town so that was retconned

Can’t rlly think of much else right now

Oh yeah, did you know that Enzo and Maritza (Detective and Brave) originally had entirely different designs in the books?

[silver cargo]

Nope, but canon designs are changin all the time I guess.

[lyric zephyr]

Yep! Here’s Maritza’s original design (on the right)

Changed literally every aspect about her afterwards lol

Girl in the middle is Lucy Yi, the girl who died on the roller coaster that caused the Golden Apple Amusement Park to shut down

And Enzo in the books was considered kind of an athlete rather than a nerd

[silver cargo]

Thank you for the many infos!
In return I can give you some infos about FNaF.

[lyric zephyr]

It’s not a problem man! Always happy to discuss HN lore

Even if it’s being changed a lot recently

[silver cargo]

Oh uhm, last question...
Whats the role of the guest or he is just here?

[lyric zephyr]

We don’t know yet really,

In the second Graphic Novel his goal was to flood the town and to “take what people don’t deserve” and stuff that could be forgotten

But I’m pretty certain that’s been changed now

[silver cargo]

Did he do it?

[lyric zephyr]

Nope, the main characters of GN2 stopped him

But he did drown Ted and most likely stole his body

[silver cargo]

GN?

[lyric zephyr]

Graphic Novel

[silver cargo]

Who was the second main cha?

[lyric zephyr]

The main characters of GN2 were Regina and Pris, step-siblings

[silver cargo]

Idk who they are but thx.

[lyric zephyr]

They’re exclusive to that graphic novel

[silver cargo]

Hwo did they stoppes Peterson?

[lyric zephyr]

But yeah here’s the panels of the Guest most likely stealing Mr Peterson’s body

Regina convinced Peterson to try and turn off the weather machine that was going to flood the town

Guest stopped him and possessed his body

Then the place went haywire and exploded after Regina and Pris got out

[silver cargo]

Bro, the graphic novel just looks sick as hell!

[lyric zephyr]

Yeah

The artist really did great for it!

[silver cargo]

Do you habe more pages?
Could you send them me in DMs?

[lyric zephyr]

Can’t rn, these are just what I had saved

You can get the book for really cheap digitally for the kindle app though, if you feel like paying the money

[silver cargo]

Allright, so the guest is for real a demon!?

[lyric zephyr]

Kinda, we don’t know 100% for certain yet

[silver cargo]

Yeah maybe.

[silver cargo]

I mean on the first picture the guest seems to come out of nowhere.

[silver vine]

welp

this confirms that this is a dream sequence

and Peterson didnt get arrested

[silver vine]

how does this even confirm that act 3 is real?

[tribal talon]

Google: The Guest was revealed to be Theodore Peterson in Hello Neighbor: Reset Day.

[unkempt sleet]

Guest is just possesing Mr. Peterson's body in Reset Day.
He is not the Guest

[tribal talon]

Yea I know that Mr apple

Just showing what the internet said

Since it’s confirm the guest is a creature that can go through walls and has capable abilities of possesion

[shell gull]

Yeah he’s basically a demon that the cultist believe as a god

[unkempt sleet]

"That cultist believe as a god"
Literally, How do we know that?

[silver cargo]

@lyric zephyr Sorry for the ping, but you are the man for my HN questions.
How is the act 3 house now a real thing?

[shell gull]

We don’t know sense we haven’t gotten the episode, but this does clarify Act 2.

Even though act 2 was a messed up distorted version of the real thing

[silver cargo]

Is it possible that the shadow man is the Crow man, instead just a fear from Nicky?
I mean the Crow man is also just a demon.
Ans since supernatural is a thing now in HN, its possible that he is the shadow man, right?

[toxic mist]

thats what iiim sayin

thats the only way for this lore to make sense

but yeah its almost too complex for its own good and no one understands it

[crude dew]

damn,bro asked about the entire HN lore

[crude dew]

we don't know. we don't know the context yet

[crude dew]

Is it possible that the shadow man is the Crow man
no
btw, his name is Guest (the "crowman's")

[crude dew]

dude who wouldn't want to steal that body

yeah I hate the story of the second comic.

[silver cargo]

Yeah, bc when I first looked in this chat, I just found out that I knew nothing about HN.

[crude dew]

I see

still better than going to the inaccurate wiki (it IS inaccurate)

or listening to theory videos (those are also inaccurate)

[silver cargo]

[crude dew]

yay nightmare bonnie approves

[silver cargo]

Actually, I thought I knew alot of things about HN.
Since the release of HN 1, I thoughg that act 2 was a real thing.

[crude dew]

oh, in the case of HN it REALLY depends on, which game build or which media are you looking at. by the looks of things, the AS will retcon everything you've seen in HN.
act 2 was real, it did happen, just not the way you see it. the house is exaggerated, this applies to act 3 too.
it's the same as you remembering some old memory from 10 years ago. you cannot remember accurately. especially if it was traumatic.
so the house itself did exist and Nicky did escape, it was just looking different.

[sinful flint]

My boy bagger ain't even in the poster man

Poor bagger

[crude dew]

he's not part of the gang

[silver cargo]

He isnt??

[sinful flint]

I hope he actually does something at some point

[crude dew]

there are some screenshots, where they fight with Nicky
so I guess they become allies later.

[silver cargo]

Oh wow, I think I know actually nothing about HN.

[crude dew]

it's ok

ask us

I mean the cartoon is an entirely different topic. because it is nothing like the rest of the media (games, books)

we call the cartoon AS (animated series)

[silver cargo]

I always thought he is....
Bc of Secret neighbor.
Actually the HN wiki also says that the neighbor in SN is the shadow man.

[snow mauve]

His name is Delroy btw

[sinful flint]

Bagger

[crude dew]

yeah as I said the wiki is inaccurate, very much. we were lucky with the fnaf wiki (I'm a fan since 2015) but the HN one is disaster.
in SN, these kids were allies. they wanted to rescue Nicky. but in the AS, everything happens differently so far.

[snow mauve]

Delroy

[crude dew]

oh and Neighbor is not the shadow man
the shadow man is a symbol, it represents fear itself

[sinful flint]

Agger

[crude dew]

since SN happens in the kids' brain, they see fear as Neighbor
another symbolical stuff

[silver cargo]

Yeah...
Btw how do you think do they explain the act 3 house if it is a real thing.

[snow mauve]

Elroy

[silver cargo]

Oh, so a kinda canon thing!

I always thought its a spinoff.

[crude dew]

I'll actually wait until the episode releases
because you cannot explain that
it would be...nonsense
it's like the different Neighbor skins from SN

wow, dreams. oh wow 😐 surprise surprise

[crude dew]

I personally take SN as a spinoff, because where are the kids in HN? nowhere.
if you wanna know more, you should watch the Rocket event ending, that confirms what I said.

[silver cargo]

Actually HN 1 and HN 2 are doimg the same thing, everything happens after the player wakes up again and again.

[crude dew]

yeah lol
basically the same, just different main character

[silver cargo]

RetroDiskette said to me that the devs are kinda rebooted HN.

I mean ist also kinda obvious.

[crude dew]

Alex CEO (publisher boss, not developer) said that they will reboot HN too
I personally don't like it.. it's like remaking FNAF 1. unnecessary. that was the base of everything.

[silver cargo]

Oh, actually I hope they reboot HN.

[crude dew]

the books kind of rebooted the story already.
but this is, like the third reboot we get.

[silver cargo]

FNaF help wanted...

[crude dew]

even worse ://

[snow mauve]

Fnaf plus?

[crude dew]

we don't talk about that.

[silver cargo]

Yeah, but not everyone will will read books or pay for them, if they just can play the games to kinda make there own story.

[snow mauve]

Right

[crude dew]

yeah. honestly, you didn't miss that much.
maybe the kids will be reworked too, so they'll be different from their book personalities

[sinful flint]

Gger

[silver cargo]

Actually FNaF plus is a reimagine.
Scott Cawthon and a fangame developer had an argument and the fangame dev told him how he would improve all FNaF games.

So Scott asked him if he can make a remake of the first one.
FNaF plus is not intended to replace FNaF.

[unkempt sleet]

This is not a FNaF Chat though

[silver cargo]

Ik, but we kinda came to the topic.
Back to HN.

[crude dew]

we don't really talk about phisnom here, because he actively hates on HN for no reason.
like....if someone dislikes something, they should skip it. there's already enough people hating on HN. he shouldn't encourage his fans to hate the game, especially since he is a ""developer"".

[silver cargo]

Oh yeah, that stream....

[crude dew]

wait that's the story of fnaf+?? uhhh

dude, Scott is....it's...interesting

[silver cargo]

Yeah, very shortly.

[crude dew]

yeah, see?
we like fnaf 1 the way it is. if Scott said tomorrow that it's nonsexistent and only fnaf+ exists, fans would be sad. it is not the same.

we have the same with the HN remake / every reboot attempt. they are not the same as the base game.

[unkempt sleet]

Though, I dont think most people like HN1 the way it is...

[silver cargo]

Yeah, Ik, but a Hello neighbor remake coudl kinda rescue the first game.
I would actually like to see a full Hello neighbor reboot and if its already confirmed, I even look more forword to it!

[crude dew]

I do.

[unkempt sleet]

Alex just said they would remake HN1 after they fix HN2
He didnt mentioned a full franchise reboot

[crude dew]

they said the same to HN2 and you can see how we are currently
they are improving it now, but during launch, many people were disappointed

[unkempt sleet]

I do too
I was talking about the most people on internet

[crude dew]

the problem is, they'll entirely reboot the story too
and THAT will cause problems

[silver cargo]

Wait?
They also want ro reboot HN 2???

[unkempt sleet]

No?

[crude dew]

no
they said HN2 will save the franchise
that's what I meant

but god knows....

[silver cargo]

Ah.

[unkempt sleet]

They said that?

[crude dew]

kinda
many believed

[unkempt sleet]

I thought that was just what people thought

[crude dew]

I mean...that's why it is basically HN, but with different main character??

gameplay-vise you do the same?? you rescue the child??

[silver cargo]

How do they want to remake it?
Do they want to make an big update for Hello neighbor or an new game?

[unkempt sleet]

True
But this time its more clear that you rescue the child

[crude dew]

totally new game.
totally.

[unkempt sleet]

This is literally the only thing we know about a HN1 remake

We can only speculate other aspects

[crude dew]

I mean, knowing the ENTIRE background story and struggle of the developers of HN
it was still a very good and smartly solved build, which we call the release build
it's not their fault tihngs had to be changed at the last moment

[silver cargo]

I actually look forword to the remake!

[crude dew]

I said the same about SB :')))

also
when does Alex think they finish fixing up the game?
because let's say it doesn't have any bugs anymore
they still need to add chapters for story etc

those will have bugs too
they should be focusing on HN2 entirely

[silver cargo]

HN 1 plot, its just an video game made by an indie game developer studio with the name Tinybuild.

[crude dew]

Dynamic Pixels / Eerie Guest studios is the developer and creator of HN

[silver cargo]

[unkempt sleet]

And they are focusing on HN2??
He didnt said "We started planning HN1 remake"
He just said "Yea we want to do it after HN2"

[crude dew]

that's because you don't read between the lines 😉

they started making HG right after HS

[silver cargo]

Or Eerie gust studios, I just copied the FNaF help wanted plot.

[crude dew]

did you know that Steel wool made the two HN2 DLC's?

[silver cargo]

Yes, they are also making the HN VR game.

[crude dew]

ye
you know then, okie

[silver cargo]

I was actually surprised when I saw it in the search and rescue trailer.

But I mean they are actually VR games developer.

[crude dew]

yeah they can do VR better, than free roam.

[silver cargo]

I still think that the little bunny plush is a reference to FNaF.

The plush in the treehouse.

[unkempt sleet]

Me when A Bunny Plushie
(Its a reference to FNaF because Bunny plushies dont exist irl)

[silver cargo]

My speech. 😂

[manic dirge]

just update hn1 😭

[thin wadi]

Yes

[crude dew]

I think the bunny was accidental. I don't know if any of the devs actually like fnaf.

and later it was replaced by another bunny

[snow mauve]

Dude, I already know what FNAF plus is

[mighty ember]

hn1 remake as fourth dlc for hn2

[tribal talon]

Any more lore new characters we haven’t met yet? Any returning characters?

[unkempt sleet]

Leslie, Guest, Maybe Missing Journalist etc.

[shell gull]

No 💀 wouldn’t even make sense, since there both from Polar opposite times, and the cultist don’t know the thing.

[tribal talon]

Hm I see

Why do we get nothing on the guest?

[unkempt sleet]

We will get more Guest in the future

[tribal talon]

He’s in the cutscene

But that’s it

I do hope so Mr Apple he is very important of course

[unkempt sleet]

Idk why we didnt get more of him at launch, but well get him more soon

[tribal talon]

Isn’t he the face of hn2?

[unkempt sleet]

Yea

[tribal talon]

Odd there’s more about the guest

We need to know

[silver cargo]

Yeah bro, I also just found out today that I just know a little part about HN.
Thats why I asked so much.

[tribal talon]

He’s not human

But he isn’t a ghost

He’s a-

???????

Elephant (Jk)

[shell gull]

All good

[shell gull]

And uhh read the books

[snow mauve]

And then there's some cult...

[tribal talon]

A cult

But in the comic he posses Peterson

So-…

That’s normal??

[shell gull]

Yup that cursed Teds family and summons a demon

[silver cargo]

After I read my FNaF books yes.

[silver cargo]

Ted?

[snow mauve]

Dude hn2 takes place before the Gn2

[tribal talon]

So he’s. Demon

[silver cargo]

Not Theodore?

[shell gull]

It’s his nickname

[tribal talon]

Theodore yes Peterson whatever

Same guy who put a curse some how

How is the curse broken tho?

[silver cargo]

Ah.

[shell gull]

No he didn’t make a curse

The cult did

[tribal talon]

Was Peterson involve with it tho?

[shell gull]

You can’t but you can gain luck back by collecting GAC

[unkempt sleet]

He is the one that got cursed

[tribal talon]

Then as a curse is is able to be put on someone

[snow mauve]

THEM

[tribal talon]

Then there’s a way to take the curse off…right?

[tribal talon]

I know that

[shell gull]

No his parents tried to stop them but got killed and the cult cursed his smiley with forever bad luck

[unkempt sleet]

We dont know if is there a way to get the curse off

[shell gull]

No only if you get a luck device or GAC

[tribal talon]

That’s so crazy now Ima add that in my book thanks

Anything else need to be expose about Theodore and the guest

[unkempt sleet]

GAC thing is just speculation though

[shell gull]

Wdym exposed this been around for a while

[unkempt sleet]

We dont know why he collects the coins

[shell gull]

Ik

[shell gull]

But it’s something to do with the guest

[tribal talon]

I mean like any secrets in the game

[unkempt sleet]

Ok? And how do we know that

[tribal talon]

Like anything yet discovered lore wize?

[shell gull]

Yeah the museum is a hideout used by the cultist the tapes show about and the old recording for the tapes were of the guest being summoned in the museum by the cult

[shell gull]

The crow statue

Filled with them

[tribal talon]

Hm alright then

[shell gull]

And the nightmare achievement is Ancient Curse

[unkempt sleet]

Yea, But is the crow statue related to Guest?

[shell gull]

Lore man thinks it represents the guest and the nightmare is a recreation of the guest being summoned

[tribal talon]

There was a cult running around town and some of the people look like there involve with it I mean didn’t the major have something related to the cult when you get the key??

[shell gull]

Every NPC except Ted are part of the cult

[tribal talon]

Alright good to know

That’s good so Peterson isn’t really the “bad guy”

[unkempt sleet]

Possible, but still thats a speculation too

[shell gull]

The reason they stole the keys is to make sure no one found out about what they were doing in the museum

[tribal talon]

Or is he?

[shell gull]

Ik

[unkempt sleet]

He's not a bad guy but he isnt really a good guy either

[tribal talon]

I mean honestly that’s true

Just wondering who’s the main villain in this game

[shell gull]

His main priority’s are to protect his family and get rid of the cult

[snow mauve]

He's like coo coo

[shell gull]

He did go insane

[dry depot]

He will do bad like kill some dude in a store with a nail gun for some reason

[ripe berry]

Yeah, how are they going to explain that one away

How does killing a random Store Clerk help Peterson get revenge on the Cultists in any real way

(also yes I'm calling them Store Clerk since the script says that's what they are)

[dry depot]

I mean he went crazy

Bro was like no witnesses

Of my presence

[ripe berry]

The only one who saw it was Trinity

[shell gull]

Cuz he wanted the GAC

Prob saw him holding one

[languid geyser]

from what i remember they had a remote that would give them good luck and of the residents bad luck.

[glacial whale]

I don’t think ted killed the store clerk because when he’s pushing his cart he gets it stuck on something and that something is the body.

That’s how I interpreted it

[shell gull]

Maybe who knows

[manic dirge]

he didnt kill anyone. hes just there exactly when they die (prob his bad luck)

[lyric zephyr]

I find it weird how Ted’s bad luck curse is just for some reason different from everyone else’s

Like he’s able to collect the cult tokens, and he’s never really been personally/physically harmed until HN2’s ending

While everyone else’s bad luck results in death or injury

He’s just different for some reason

In fact he seems to have good luck compared to everyone else
He’s able to get away with multiple deaths on his rides with minimal consequences, was like physically completely fine after his 2 car crashes, is able to trick an entire town,

Is able to successfully hide a body for months

[crude dew]

do we know for sure, that bad luck curse is a thing in the AS?

[crude dew]

plus the very basic plot point, where the writers want it to look like he is the one who is responsible for the murders, but haha plot twist, if you pay close attention you can find out, that it was the cult all along, and the kids misunderstood everything
yay funny writing

[manic dirge]

he was in 2?

[lyric zephyr]

Yeah I think he a two car crash in the Aaron trilogy

[manic dirge]

the police found mya?

[lyric zephyr]

As far as we know they still haven’t

[manic dirge]

oh ok

[shell gull]

Not really since technically his bad luck is all of the losses he’s had.

[lyric zephyr]

But it’s weird how it functions different only for him

[tribal talon]

Any ideas on why Peterson is in jail?

I mean beside all the things he did

Who do y’all think caught him red handed?

[ripe berry]

Perhaps the HN2 Ending Shadow

Since Quentin's fate is unknown, and no one else had definitive proof, he's the only one that could've reported Peterson's Location to the cops

and since Peterson was trapped under a Crow Statue, it'd be easy for the cop to get to him

You can't escape if you can't even move to begin with

[shell gull]

He went to jail?

[shell gull]

Nah the shadow was probably Norman that’s my guess

[ripe berry]

What purpose would Norman have in knocking out Quentin

and also there's literally no one else nearby who'd witness that Peterson is in the Museum

Which is what the cops would need to arrest him

Unless AS Ep. 8 or smth does a reveal showing Trinity having been watching the entire time when the ending happens

[shell gull]

To protect the Petersons but I see your point and yeah he wouldn’t have known where he was but Norman is still spying on the cultist so he prob would’ve known about the museum

[ripe berry]

I also mentioned how that doesn't change the HN2 Shadow being the only person who'd know

Quentin's fate's unknown so you can't say for sure it was in a Newspaper article he wrote

and again

There's literally no one else there who'd report Peterson

This makes it harder to believe the HN2 Shadow is Norman Darby because of a conflict in interests

[shell gull]

True

[ripe berry]

The unknown info about Quentin's fate is the only thing that could allow the HN2 Shadow to maybe be Norman Darby unless he betrayed Peterson

[tribal talon]

Well tiny build posted a image on YouTube Peterson shadow in jail

[shell gull]

Really?

[thin wadi]

Looked more like Peterson as a werewolf

[shell gull]

Yeah

[thin wadi]

SN werewolf skin is canon

[silver vine]

but hes been mentally harmed so so much

[silver vine]

this is wildly untrue

[silver vine]

dude

the station has a pic of ACT 3 house

which literally confirms that neighbor in jail is sort of a nightmare for one of the kids

[strange lance]

How does that mean it's a dream. What if it means they have a pic of the house cause it's a current investigation. Don't say it's a dream without proper evidence

It could be a dream but no one knows right now

[silver vine]

cmon

its ACT 3 house

how the heck can it even be real

[manic dirge]

its possible to build in irl without the water room (in theory)

[silver vine]

srsly

then why is the house normal in HN2

[manic dirge]

no one knows

[silver vine]

then how are you so sure that he built act 3 irl

[unkempt sleet]

Because it happens after HN2 maybe?

[cedar merlin]

Maybe it's ALL an illusion!

[manic dirge]

ohhh you are talkin about how he took it down so fast?