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How he drove into the museums
sorry for asking so many questions but were did they get the key from likely since it says it was stolen
There's a door at the side of the Museum that has a board on the inside
but there's no board on the outside
Town investors
This is how Theodore could've gotten in and opened the Garage to let his car through
He drove through the garage pretty sure
But how did he even get his car in there
I'm thinking more of how he got the Garage door open
True
Anyways Gotta go
Which is shown by boards placed on a side where he could've added them on later
and we KNOW he has a crowbar there so is it too unlikely he could've put that there after the fact
Alright, cya
So that's another mystery solved
We also know the Forest Protectors still have the ability to curse people thanks to Kindly Keyin's video
Or sorry
"Cultists"
why does only him have it
like wth
Also I think I know why the tapes are scattered across Raven Brooks, it's because the cultists found them and hid them so that no one would be able to find out what was going on in the Museum
I have no clue
Maybe other ytbers got it but didn't care enough to show it
I thought we figured out that that wouldn't get Theodore Anywhere
Ravens or cultists
ravens is what they called them in the books
cultists is what they're referred to in the files
we cant call them forest protector
forest protector is the name of the urban legend they came up with
forest protector is not the name of the cult
No, it’s hinting to something else now
Yeah but he somehow did
His literal car is in there
The real question is A. How did he drive the car up to the museum? and B. How did he open the garage door?
Also don’t forget anything over than keys in the museum Ted didn’t put there except for the Heart Key, so he basically drove in to the garage, and then barricaded it along with all the exit doors.
Idk yet
Most likely currently not
What I’m focused on rn is the tapes looking for anything off
Scattered across town but console doesn’t have that
The cultist most likely scattered them
To hide what’s in it
Still loading pretty sure
I was able to edit all the tapes together:
There
That’s all the tapes in one video
Put together
That’s what it is
The thing is though
I was, you wanna know something crazy
I was right about the museum too
Anyways
What I’m trying to figure out
Is there were bunch of chants in there
I’m also trying to figure out
Where they summoned him in the museum
Yeah
Turned it off
My guess is they summoned the guest in the attic
Since there’s a cage their
We know the cultist in HN2 we’re in it since they were the ones who stole the keys
But there were definitely more
Cultists
There’s also the factor of the investors taking away a certain object and the mysteriously stop investing
Possibly
Tapps actually
It was dale tapps
True
If Mr. Lore Man was right about nightmare #3 being a recreation of what happened in the tapes
Then who’s to say the Crow Statue is holding that object
I don’t want to @ ing them so Michealhuff
Lore man says the end part of the tapes is the guest being summoned but my guess
It’s the guest escaping
Possibly
It would make sense
Right and if they did summon him in the attic within the cage
Then it must’ve gotten more and more irritated
But the clicking sounds are faint so it might be the old guest trick thing
Right
You know the consciousness being able to speak
Basically the consciousness you can’t see but it can talk sometimes
Must’ve been the consciousness being pulled into one thing then summoned the guest
But either theory is fine with me
Yeah but that’s not a physical thing it can disappear and reappear
It’s the announcement trailer way before the GN even came out
Graphic Novel
Yup
It’s a announcement trailer
Of course not
Also in SN when the guest dies he just turn into ash unlike the other classes
Maybe
The humming is the cultist making a ritual song
But maybe just maybe
im still kinda confused about the tapes when did they summon the guest ?
Like before HN2
why did they do it
To use the guest as power and worship
But it went horribly wrong
And the guest escaped
Nice
The Guest ran out of the woods into Raven Brooks
did the guest just pop in existence after the ritual or ?
No
They used consciousness
what ?
The Guest consciousness
With the ritual devices which made the guest physically
so can you tell me what we hear in more detail i dont fully understand it
The humming is them singing a ritual song
The crackles are the conscious
The last big crackle at the end is it being summoned
We Don’t know for sure
Since the suit isn’t made out of anything
do we know this was in the musseum
what do you mean ?
It’s the same as the museum’s ambiance
im very confused about the museum keys was this stolen after the museum was closed ?
The museum has been closed for decades
It closed in renovations
Since they couldn’t access the inside after keys got stolen
where was the keys that got stolen inside the museum ?
Investors hade it
And we know they are cultists
but then how can it be stolen ? if they own it
They said it got stolen as a cover up
Every ai except Ted are cultist
There job is to keep the keys safe
do you think guest origin have changed during development
Kinda
Well Ted is still Possessed in canon
For GN2
The suit means your possessed
we dont know fully if that was their plan
Gotta go see ya
does the cassettes give us any new lore
to me, its just guest sounds
but with some humming sounds...
can anyone explain
Cult summons guest
Well theres a ritual, and Guest noises
Church bells, chanting, and guest
It sounds like a ritual anyway
Though i dont think it summons Guest
To me theres a ritual going on and Guest is also there
he stalks and kidnaps ppl and steals things throughout the town, and prob also has a shelter?
Maybe he watches the ritual?
maybe they summoned the guest, and he just stays forever in RB now?
Guest dimenson
I always imagined the guest as a long lived cryptid like Mothman or something
Been around for generations lurking in the forests
But nope they legit made him a demon you can summon
The humming is the cultist chanting a ritual song
The end part of the 4th tape is the guest being fully summoned
This means my theory was correct
The reason they locked the place and stole the keys is cuz the guest ran off and they don’t want anyone to find out
Here’s All The Tapes In Order And Edited Together
Yeah but the background is from HN2
hi
What was the boss fight for hello guest
same
I missed the "see" after the never
are you sure?
I have a theory, so we know that the guest is mostly absent in hn2 and also that girl (forgor the name) so maybe if we get a dlc or an update maybe it might be like before quentin arrived In raven brooks and maybe she probably left or got kidnapped by the guest or something which is why the guest is on the road??? And maybe the other characters that never made it in the hn2 we have at the moment might be involved
Yea it's Beatrix
She’s still in the files right
I don't think so
Damn
And I don't think she'll ever return
Ye
She was used for the fake announcement trailer and that’s it I’m pretty sure
But
What if
That would be in the game
Even in the fg?
Yea
NO! No more dlc's
Terrible idea
Ain't nobody wanna waste another buck of it
Story updates would be better
Nobody except for me, I love wasting money on broken DLCs as long as I get some precious hello neighbor lore out of it!
I feel sorry for you
do you guys ever think about the cultist statue in the museum? why were floors build around it, if it's something holy? was the cult something from decades ago, and the new characters just rediscovered and renewed it?
cuz that statue doesn't only look very old, and unused, but....uh
it's a bit weird
The Ravens have been around since raven brooks first came about, there have always been cultist as new once kept joining, there’s so many cultist we don’t know about and probably will never know about.
I meant in the game...the books aren't canon anymore 😛
Yeah, its the same
And also since Alex said “Canon is a flexible term” and “Everything Is canon” that means we gotta mix canons, that’s why we have the Full Timeline Concept
i need community opinions rn for a fan comic currently in the planning.
How tall do you reckon the Janitor/Headmaster is?
Him saying everything is canon was a joke if i remember right
I dont think he's being serious here
Raven Brooks was built around the conspiracy of ravens(cultists)
the town was literally built around the cult
so yes the cult is important and lets stop whining about it
No that time he was actually serious
even if this quote was from the books, I dont think they changed it cuz the cult has become more important than ever
When did he said Everything is canon and was serious?
wt f I just asked about floors and the statue, how did you get here?
Like a month ago
He don’t put any joke or nothing just straight that
Those three are the only times Alex said"Everything is canon"
Unless he worded it differently
Oh Well still flexible terms
Just updated the doc, later I’m going to continue adding more, as I’m gonna skip AS for now and go straight to Hello Neighbor to hello Neighbor 2 and the events leading up to it
Hello Neighbor Full Timeline A Mix Of Books, Animated Series And Games This Is Not High Detailed Let Me Know If I Ever Miss Anything Before: In 1955, A Couple Named Roger And Adelle Peterson, Would Have Their First Child, Named Theodore Masters Peterson, Theodore Was A Very Creative Child, An...
Also let me know of any grammar issues
We don't know anything about what happens after HN2 that isn't in the gray area of "is it retconned or not"
and also in the gray area of "Was this even the intended answer to what happens after HN2"
But it seems like Aaron lights the Neighbor/His Dad's house on fire after HN2 (based off a old statement that Hello Neighbor: Hide and Seek would reveal who burnt down the house and him being the only character in HNHS who is both alive at the end of the game and would have a reason for doing so) and ends up dead somehow (based off Theodore talking as if he(Aaron) was dead along with the rest of his family in Graphic Novel #2)
But still not only this but pretty much everything we thought we ever knew about this franchise pre-HN2 is now in the gray area of is it canon still or not thanks to the Animated Series
Also known as Welcome to Raven Brooks
Thankfully we have concepts such as the Full Timeline to bring these problems down
Hey, I asked this already, could I help edit some stuff and fix the grammar?
It’s an only me project sorry
If you see any grammar problems let me know
All we really know is that Quentin survives, and he’s the reason the rumours of Mr. Peterson is a killer, started.
Sometimes, Alex deserves to be recognized with every issue he has point out
hello neighbours
hi
so question about mya's death
Ask away
so i know its their imagination and all but how does she get on the roof in the first place
I mean how did Nicky climb the chimney in AS, and did you forget about the ladder on the back of the house
(just mentioning both things as now they're both possible to be the reason)
but that wasnt there in hn hs
The Ladder?
It's not there bc you'd never see it
unless peterson wanted them to go on the roof
I mean they design the maps from the PoV of the inside of Peterson's House
why would the do that
and it's not like Theodore could stop them
The exact way they get onto the roof was never confirmed so we just have to speculate
Maybe Theodore needed to do some work on his roof that day and just forgot due to the depression to remove the ladder
We can assume he's just been in the kitchen during the events of Stage 5 thanks to the ending of the launch trailer
OR if my theory is correct he's been trying several times with looping time back to try to save Diane and Mya and at this point has just accepted that Mya is going to die and doesn't do anything to try and stop it
in HE he's testing time loops to try to go back in time to save Mya and Diane
Time Loops are established concepts in this universe
and they're caused by the Purple Lightning connected to the Weather Station
Theodore could easily get his hands on the Book 7 Rings that let you remember past time loops
and in hn diaries in one cutscene in which nicky looks at a broken window
it has a note with 3 words
So after succeeding in sending life back in time at the end of HE he tries it and heads back in time (this is where I start going straight into theories)
THIS is how Mayak explains everything
i think they said i idk what the second word is and leave
it was in freaze zanes video
He keeps heading back in time and, while not being able to save his family, he's able to change minor things and delay the deaths, births, etc. of a character
2022 edition
So what’s the story of hn 2 can someone tell me I don’t fully understand it all ?
It reads "I Attract Evil"
but in Wayron Croobian
oh
it says that bc they were too lazy to make it book and say "I make bad things happen"
We don't fully understand it either
But the basic
So before the events of HN2 some Trick or Treaters go missing on Halloween due to storms and only one is found, The Guest is created in a cult ritual, the Museum gets shut down, and a Journalist at the Raven Brooks Banner goes missing because "he got too close to them"
They get a new journalist, named Quentin, from the nearby City to replace him
Act 2 from HN1 happens which leads into the intro for the game
Where Quentin witnesses Theodore taking Aaron back into the house by force
Theodore smashes Quentin's window after locking Aaron up, and Quentin drives away only to crash into a barn because the Guest popped up out of nowhere
After getting out of the Barn Theodore knocks Quentin out, taking his camera in the process to make sure as little evidence against him would be out there as possible
Between the Intro and Day 1 a unknown figure takes Quentin back to the Banner, and Nicky (+ The Rescue Squad) report Mr.Peterson to the cops
This is where the scene they showed to hype up HN2 Happens
very cool
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This one
Ik
there was a journalist before quentin
If you scroll up you'll see I mentioned that
"and a Journalist at the Raven Brooks Banner goes missing because "he got too close to them""
yeah but how did you find out
Let's see: tinyBuild sent Kindly Keyin a package full of lore
and the Demo has a missing poster for him
He's also Mr.Otto's friend
The guy on the left in this image
Ok then what part don't you understand
wait why kindly keyin
If it's the character in the ending then sorry we don't know who he is
pre alpha man
Do we look like we got a answer
idk your the one who told me
I think he saw the guest being summoned
No we don't have a answer as to why they sent him a lore package
the kid in the crow costume became the guest right
It's actually probably not going to be Pre-Alpha Man for one simple reason
The ending guy has no hair
No
The Kid in the Crow Costume is the Trick or Treater that's found
The ones who have the fake versions of them found in the Museum are the ones that are never found and end up getting the Raven Brooks Middle School shut down
https://youtu.be/_ogjq1s1Fe4 i miss it SO MUCH
very cool
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It was most likely Otto who killed him
Why would Otto keep around a happy picture of the man he killed
avoiding suspicion
But he already keeps people out of his home at all costs
He wouldn't keep a happy picture of his apparent fishing buddy where it's always in sight for him after murdering him
not to mention the Cult Otto is most likely a part of has people in the Police Force
So even if any evidence was found the cult would be able to destroy it
First of all, Otto is a Cultist, the reason the journalist died is because he saw what the Cultist were doing, he was most likely the one who made the VHS Tapes, which Otto as a Cultist would have to kill him, and would keep the picture up to not alert suspicion.
He probably regretted doing it but he had to do it
I’m not saying it was Otto who did it, but the fact that Otto is a cultist, and the journalist died to them makes it very possible.
How do you know Missing Journalist is even dead?
if Otto is a cultist, then he is the craziest dude in the whole team
some kind of Katamaranov (if you know, you know)
so far, everyone who went missing, died. except Nicky or Aaron
but maybe the missing journalist could return as a villain or something (I said the same for Ike in the books, and look what happened 😂 )
in Kindly Keyin's "Hello Neighbor sent me a package" YT Short the missing Journalist has a thing where a unknown character highlighted letters to read "he got too close to them" and they(Unknown Character(lore-wise) and tinyBuild(IRL)) wouldn't talk like that if he was alive
They can do that since we don't know if Ike is still canon
so there's no confirmed repeats in deaths in the story
Considering 99% of what we know from pre-HN2 lore is possibly no longer canon
(thank you Animated Series for ruining the perfect lore because you guys didn't try to adapt it to animation well)
Ike is so uncanon, even Alex doesn't remember him (search Ike's name)
it was something old they scrapped even during writing the books, I think that's why he just...died right at the prologue, which is available for free online 🥹
kinda humiliating...he could've been an interesting character....
what I really liked in the books, is how weirdly the book 3 ending played out, how meaningless it was from plot pov, that Nicky had "friends" (he still broke in alone anyway), and I liked Ike later, and Norman Darby's character
I thought by Book 3's ending Nicky's friends abandoned him
and also they gave him friends because at first they needed to flesh out Raven Brooks
But then when they made the books canon they needed to recreate the feeling of being alone from Act 1 of the original game for the third book
Also it doesn't make sense Nicky never goes to the abandoned weather station (Sure it didn't exist yet but they really didn't need to give it a single line in Book 3, at least imply Nicky has been there off-screen)
they did abandon him. from plot perspective, it was entirely meaningless to include them, because in the end of the day, they added NOTHING to the climax of the story. Nicky did the same as in HN (except he wanted to slaughter Neighbor, he literally broke in to the house alone and with rage haha funny, then he figured out the truth, luckily)
Also it doesn't make sense Nicky never goes to the abandoned weather station
yeah, noone can ever convince me, that a guy, who has discovered EVERY abandoned place in RB, and purposefully went for adventures like this, was not interested in an abandoned weather station. in book 3, he was, like "ah yeah, that thing is there....idc"
wait why
(Also Guest kid, He came back alive.)
Theodore planted stuff
Made Nicky look insane
So that when Nicky would eventually break into Theodore's House it'd look like Nicky couldn't handle it and ran off
That idea was so cool, when I first read it, I was blown away by the fact that Ted basically made Nicky’s life go down hill within the dark.
If it isn’t Otto and it was a different Cultist it would still be weird the fact he has a picture of his friend in his house
That he knows is dead
Me and my sister are fighting over who the player is in the first games so my sister says he is the neighbours brother and I say he is just a guy. Could someone tell me
Its a child,Called Nicky That Tries To Discovers The Secret Of His Sussy Neighbour
In the Finale He Is Already Like An Adult
His name is Nicky, and he’s best friends with the neighbors son.
I see thanks to both of you 🙏
I'm pretty bummed and a little frustrated they haven't picked up where book 3 left off. Even just one book to wrap it up. I'm mostly convinced we won't ever see another HN book. Instead, we'll get the AS which is decent, but they are trying to be so edgy with. The books actually made raven brooks seem interesting
I wasnt talking about you
I know many ppl who hate the cult storyline
its prob the other cultists who murdered him
or he got murdered by the guest himself
I like the theory of him making the cassette tapes(its not VHS tapes) but Im kinda skeptical about Otto murdering him
he wouldnt keep that photo if he murdered him
and, how the heck would the photo not being there alert suspicion?
nobody comes to the house
If it isn’t Otto, and it’s a different cultist, it would still be weird he has it up as he would know he’s dead.
Also if your grandma died you wouldn’t just take down all the pictures of her
I’d imagine it’s the same in this situation
well if hello neighbor 3 comes out that’ll probably answer it
he also has his “simming” posters
"Probably", more like never
Also we don't need no hello neighbor 3
He’s dead TinyBuild is implying he’s dead with the “He got too close” which seems to imply he’s dead
But if you KILLED your grandma you would because you’d be filled with guilt and regret
He has his just close to his bed
It’s on his desk, also it would be weird if it was a different cultist still, also Otto isn’t the type with sadness, just cuz the cops are cultist it would still be weird he randomly takes down the picture.
And plus I’m not saying it’s Otto but my guess he has the highest chance of being the one to do it
"He has theighest chance of being one to do it"
Literally they are the only characters in the game that we know is good friends
that makes sence that the cops are part of the cult cuz they give gerda the muesum key
Yeah and the fact he died to cultist, also there putting a lot of lore into those two, so I’d imagine he died to Otto.
Like I said before I’m not saying Otto killed him but I’d imagine he’d be the most ethical person to do that
We’ve known for a while they were part of the cult, Tapps was in it, and now Neilson.
The images on the thing Kindly Keyin got also implies Leslie being a cultist
(also Nielsen canonically is Keith from the books thanks to HND)
Which one implies that?
what?
thats not what you do?
we KEEP their pictures as memory and rememberance
we keep the pictures of our loved ones so that we can see them and mourn for them and remember them
I dont think anyone throws away photos of dead ppl?
wait, what?
where ?
lmao how
not even in the game, is a cultist
in the books, I think his alternate self was the cultist, and Nielsen's wasn't but
we know 🥹
this is something I just....can't
no
no thanks
idk if KK had anything else besides this video, people mention things as fact, which I have no idea about.
His full name is Keith Neilson
Nielson*
is leslie or no
where?
is the guest seperate from peterson in current hn lore?
cause wasnt peterson controlled by him before? but now we have tapes teasing the guest, it just confuses me ALOT
Guest is separate from Mr. Peterson
alright that clears some things up
Is the old story of hn2 still in the timeline?
Like the old abandoned town, from the alphas
It could have been after the flood in the books
Then the town gets abandoned because of the flood
Also the guest used to be mr Peterson in the old story
Because in the GN he got possessed by the guest
So hello neighbor 2 is before the flood even happened
Before the abandon town
So maybe hello guest will be a game in the future?
all I want to know currently...is the missing journalist's story legit Ike's story, just reworked?! fr
a guy, who's got so close to a cult and died/disappeared
oh wow
(Let me explain rq: I said this because the other character images we know are cultists and the entire rest of the thing is connected to the cultists therefore Leslie, who has a picture on it, is also a cultist)
i think i know who hits you in hn2 in the alpha 1 for hello neighbor you can find a pic of the neighbor and some other guy so i think the guy in the pic who is not the neighbor is the guy who hits you in hn2
facts
Apparently he is
Which can explain why Ted try’s to knock him out
In the AS picture
he could just be a suspect since one officer is, Maybe whoever made that evidence collection suspects the whole department being corrupt
What if act 3 of HN1 was Nicky's diaries
Been thinking...
Nickies diaries seems more fun and is basically the sane premise of act 3 but it its more of remembering your childhood in raven Brooks
Also the soundtrack is pretty good and the neighbor has an actual chase theme
Well some more random YouTuber got the package and now we have something on Gerda saying “trust no one” basically proving her as a cultist
I couldn’t look crazy into it cuz of the amount of stupidity, goofy theory’s and cringe made my Brain swell
All we know is it weighed an INCREDIBLE…17.65
I wonder what object are they talking about here
“It’s their fault”
Cultists cursing the Petersons
We now have confirmed dates for when hello neighbor 2 takes place
Several weeks after Book 3/Ep 4 AS/Act 1
- has a massive fight against cultists
- proceeds to live in RB
🤔
But if HN2 takes place shortly after Act 1, then Nicky can't be trapped in the basement at thag time. They retconned that too, I presume?
it doesnt take place after act 1, it takes place right after act 2
Oh good. At least they kept some continuity intact.
Among other things, that's one thing I'm glad they kept.
it is exactly at the moment Nicky escapes
Aaron breaks something and proceeds to escape, and Theodore catches him
Quentin is just blind and doesn't see an escaping kid what if he hit him with the van
Ah, ah, ah Remi. That's not family friendly...
oh shoot
Act 1 would be 2 weeks before HN2, Act 2 would be an exact hour before Quentin goes to the neighbors house in his van, as Act 2 was at the evening, and there would be a loud shatter which is Aaron also escaping meaning Nicky would’ve ran home, and a hour later Quentin would see Ted dragging Aaron back inside at Nighttime.
I think Quentin got there after Nicky entered his house
Aaron was just slow
probably
to the
basic house he has 🥹
with the same rocking chair room
and an attic kitchen
Where did this come from?
Last date we had was 2 months after Act 1
since Act 2 is 2 months after Act 1
and AS Ep. 6 marks the end of SN, the entirety of HNVR, the actual events of Act 2, and the start of HN2
according to Alex | CEO himself for the AS Ep. 6 part
(by this I mean what the event that's distorted for Act 2 is)
Now I know why HN2 isn't finished with new fully chapters added
Could this be game version of Darby?
Ik, but Keith was described with glasses
Also, apparently books lost its canon...
Goose was described differently from its game counterpart in book 7
Gueset
(yes)
Like: LOTS of feathers... and claws
idk Norman Darby being the missing journalist is a leap of a theory, especially considering in the books, he went missing like 30 years before Quentins arrival
I think i thought of this first, cus the Neighbor and Darby were allies. And if it IS the journalist in the ending
i swear if the guest in game turns into this..
From this:
Cuz of this it’s been changed to a 1 month and 3 weeks supposedly
Cultists cursing the Petersons
It’s basically 2 months later still it’s just been moved earlier into 7 weeks
Which means the Full Timelines Gonna have that quick 1 WEEK change
Prob Quentin
That be sick ngl
This doesn't mean HN2, it means whenever it's from is a several weeks after HNHS's ending
Which is before act 1
Nicky has said 3 times he has been on Mr. Peterson "for months"
if it's for 7 weeks it means HN1 starts right after HNHS which we know isn't the case bc as Freeze said Nicky's said he's been on Peterson for months
Meaning at least 2 months have to pass before Act 1 even starts because it's months pural and not month singular
Making it impossible to the article to be from HN2
and very unlikely to be from Act 1
Oh I see
So generally speaking when did Nicky start breaking in and when does Act 2 take place
The exact amount of time after HNHS's ending Nicky starts breaking in and the amount of time he's been doing this for by the start of the Animated Series is unknown
However assuming game months and days (not years tho) are canon again it has to be at most 8 Months by the start of the AS assuming it(AS) starts only 2 days before Act 1 (AS Ep. 2 and Ep. 3 happen on the same day)
and at least 2 months before the start of AS for months plural to make sense
however I think anything less then 6 months most people would say "A few Months" or "A Couple of Months" instead of "For Months"
so I'd say by the start of the Animated Series Nicky started breaking in somewhere between 6 and 8 months ago
let's just go with 7 Months here
So he'd start a month after HNHS with this assumption
Act 2 still happens 2 months after Act 1 like it did before unless they change the month amount
Ah I see
what is this?
This lore is more confusing then the fnaf lore I’m not joking.
calwom oot wayron croobs hte ntwo rehwe yevrenoe ahs a crstee (lood gack yrintg oot guirfe ti lal tou)
YEah because it's being retconned every 5 seconds in the Animated Series
Hey guys! Will there be a new update to hello neighbor 2? Because I finished the game but it wrote to me that it was not the end.
The devs released HN2 unfinished and are finishing it with updates ('finishing' it does not include any of the game's scrapped content)
“Hey so this- wait what Gerald no..ok uh change of the script {INSERT RANDOM LORE} has been changed now fit it in now”
Attest FNaF doesn’t ret-con as much or at all (I’m doubting that thoe)
more like Peterson cursing the cultists
its def Peterson
"what are they hiding there"
It’s being retconned accept it
I'm willing to say 1 day on a 30 minute lunch break
Im fine that it's something from the story is retconned i just wish i and every other hello neighbor fan was able to know about it too if that makes sesne.
accept what being retconned?
if it's the books then no
I refuse
Some of the stuff like Mayak, Guest, Lucy's death, and other stuff are still canon
Obviously cuz the game's and AS does mention them
should i even listen to the puzzle master one?
cause Im pretty sure that one about the cult
Idk what's canon nor not anymore
dang
It's complicated
i really wish they did comic books
like what they got to lose by doing comic books
We got the graphic novels
Something that is kinda like comics
isnt there only 1 graphic novel tho
There's 2
Raven Brooks Disaster
interesting
Spoilers ||it showed the guest of who he actually is and Mr. Peterson's death||
so if this was cannon would this be after hello neighbor 2
Yeah it's somewhere after hn2
And probably before act 3 still
Or idk
We don't know but it does take place after hn2 for sure
then the neighbor would really have to be old
which means Aaron would be somewhere at a teen age
Yet we still don't know what happened to Aaron
Like as if he's dead or alive somewhere
He's already at a teen age
He's like 13 year old
then he must've growen abit more taller.
hopefully we get a story dlc about the cult and so maybe that will tell us what happens to Mr.Peterson and his son.
I don't think we'll ever have that
Yup but not entirely since “Canon is a flexible term” just cuz of that one sentence my brain swells with the fact that I have to make a doc
I'm confused on the canon of this series, so we have HN1 with Nicky being the protagonist and being Mr. Peterson's neighbor.
Now we have Hello Neighbor 2, which should be a direct sequel of the first but now it follows the series canon where it's Trinity to be Peterson's neighbor... So, does this mean the first game is not canon? Is Hello Neighbor 2 and the cartoon series in an alternate universe from the main series? It's confusing.
Maybe Trinity lives next to the Peterson house, and Nicky lives across from it??
Idk, but that's what I think.
It's possible, not consistent with HN1 layout but at least that would give it some sort of explanation.
sup @balmy quiver
@thin valve sup
There’s 4 different Canons, AS Canon, Game Canon, Book Canon and The Actual canon known as the Full Timeline, which is a mix of the other 3 canons to make a full working canon.
But book canon got heavily retconned
Canon is a flexible term, there are no alternate universes 🤓
(I hate the explanation as much as the next guy but someone had to say it)
wait
is Gerda alien kid or guest kid?
we thought that guest kid was the one who was found as he was the one absent in the museum, but now its confirmed that Gerda was the kid who was found and alien kid does look a lot like Gerda
so
which kid was actually found?
Guest kid doesnt look like a female, so i think Alien Kid was Gerda
but guest kid is not in the museum
but alien kid is
why would alien kid be in the museum if she was found?
Maybe they put those costumes there as a memorial for what happened? and they didnt wanted to put Guest. Idk just speculation
anyway its interesting to note that one of the kids was the baker
Where is that confirmed
The museum is abandoned 💀 the cultist used the costumes as decor since they killed them
The missing kids was from a couple weeks before so how could gerda somehow grow to an adult in a span of a couple weeks
And by a couple weeks I mean a couple weeks before Aaron and mya went missing
"since they killed them" Gerda (The Alien Kid) doesnt look dead to me
When was she alien kid 💀
Bro
They literally said in the article bruh
let me find it
She was one of the costumed missing kids
and only Alien kid is a girl
Nah it’s guest kid he’s the only one who’s costume isn’t there
And also didn’t see that article
Anyways gotta go
Guest kid!
maybe pumpkin kid was found later, and both donated their costumes. But guest kid was never found.
The missing posters for the trick or treaters look more older than the others.
Bro the museum is abandoned where they donating, the kids that died got killed and were still missing so where would they find the costumes, the cultist are the ones that killed them that’s why there costumes are in the museum, and those were the only costumes the cultist had in the museum therefore Gerda was guest kid.
wait when did we learn that gerda is alien kid
or guest kid
Here:
Also it’s guest kid not alien kid, if it was alien kid then it would make zero sense whatsoever
thats why theres missing posters of the 3 kids
all abandoned things weren't abandoned at some point.
Also guest kid is a boy.
Bro it’s been abandoned since before roger and Adelle
Proof
why did the cultists kill the kids
How do you know?
Literally look at him
how do you know?
no face
Look at his body
Cuz the cultist have been using it for salvation since mayak
does that look like a girls
Did the website say something like this?
no
Bro it’s a costume
yeah
costumes can't change a person's body shape though.
well
not guest kids
Go inside the museum you can clearly tell plus this was one of there main hideouts which all main hideouts have been around since the observatory has
Bro ok then guest kid is tall, Gerda is tall too
Also she was a child?????
It's an old building yes, But you don't know when it was abandoned.
Uhhh well first of all it was in renovation for decades and it was used as a monument for investment
Who says Gerda couldn't have just had a massive growth spurt
Also all main cult hideous are as old as the observatory and have been used since the observatory
Bro you just ruined your point of that “doesn’t change body shape”
Are you going mad?
yes gerda totally wore their halloween costume throughout their entire childhood
Uhh are you?
Look what you said
?????????
A child will totally stay child sized even into adult hood yes
it's not like children grow up
You said “Costumes can’t change body shape” then you say “who says she didn’t have a massive growth spurt”
That’s not what I said
I’m talking about when they were kids adulthood doesn’t effect anything
You aren't making sense, A growth spurt is where a kid rapidly grows.
it has zero to do with costumes
Listen all I’m gonna say is the kids who died were never recovered and were killed by cultist, what hideout is used by cultist… the museum and the only costumes in their are alien kid and pumpkin kid, and Gerda was the only one to survive and got recovered what costume wasn’t in the museum, GUEST KID.
Point proven
Gotta go
Point not proven, You don't know when the museum closed, They still could've donated their costumes.
How does a dead child donate there costumes if they had them and why would they be in display
because they aren't dead, pumpkin kid was probably found later
also the reason why they are on display, I'm not sure but it might be an exhibit to the storm.
Cultists over ran the place that’s why there’s zero decor about Raven Brooks
I cannot provide proof on pumpkin kid, but Ailen kid (Gerda) certainly came back, Guest kid's costume is absent because they were never found
Proof of that Cuz so far your only “proof” doesn’t make sense
You thinking a growth spurt and a costume are the same thing doesn't make sense.
Also
I'm pretty sure somewhere it said find him save him with guest kid's picture
Don't take my word for it though
Not 100% sure, could be thinking of something else.
(Like nog simming)
Yeah cuz it isn’t, there’s no confirmation of genders, therefore guest kid is Gerda since it’s the only absent decoration from the museum.
Nog Simming isnt canon
I know
Guest kid is not gerda dude, Guest kid is a boy, ailen kid is a girl.
Once again zero proof just cuz stature is different all we see are them in there costumes
You have zero proof that guest kid is gerda
I literally listed it and I’ll do it again:
The kids were killed by the cultist, what hideout do the cultist use, museum, what are the only costumes there, alien and pumpkin kids, who was found Gerda, the only absent costume, guest kid.
Point proven
And if you continue to argue then there’s no hope in bringing the truth to you
Until they actually confirm anything
Because guest kid was never found
Your theory isn't proven to be fact, It's not "The truth"
Bro omg 💀 the cultist killed them and if they killed them and the only person found was Gerda and the cultist had there bodies that meant they had the costumes which is why the costumes are in the museum, and the only costume not their is guest kid and Gerda was the only one found which meant they never got the costume.
Until a EGS or tinybuild worker confirms it, You cannot call it the truth.
If you have solid evidence you can
Unlike what your presenting
Also why would they display it in the museum if it's to celebrate their victory
You have literally one piece of evidence
which is the costume absence
I just made a whole list 3 times?
Bro your evidence is a make believe theory I can’t rn 💀
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You don't know for sure if they were killed by the forest protectors (Although it is very likely)
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the museum wasn't always abandoned
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Guest kid was most likely never found, which is why his costume is absent
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It literally is through the highlighted letters along with the fact the paper print focuses on the cultist.
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The museum is a main hideout, all main hideouts are used as early as the observatory which is way before Gerda and Neilson.
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Then how did they “donate” their costumes if the place has been abandoned since before them?
And please don’t continue this argument you’ve been proven wrong so many times
Why would they build a museum and not open it? also what paper?
Bro omg 💀 it was open but was abandoned and used as early as the observatory, and I’m talking about the lore package
And by used I mean used by cultist
what part of the lore package? The terrible storm paper only says it was no coincidence
“It was no coincidence” meaning the storm was on purpose, only way that can happen is cultist.
Yeah.
Therefore cultist killed them since that was the focus point
So they displayed the costumes they died in, in a public apparently “famous” museum for the lols
Except 1 didn’t die because Gerda is apparently Alien Kid
And she joined the cult that tried to kill her and did kill her friends because… reasons
But they put her costume on display anyway despite the fact she didn’t die and wasn’t caught by them
I love Fullgame lore
How did they even get her costume if she escaped
They broke more of their now established lore
They’re breaking the lore that destroyed every other piece of lore lmao
🥲
That literally doesn’t make sense, since alien kid was one of the kids who died, she was definitely guest kid
I was arguing earlier about my point so please don’t argue
She’s the only confirmed gender character
Then how is she alive if they put the kids who died costumes for display
Who said they all died, apparently that isn’t a thing anymore since Gerda was one of them
What, you think they can make new characters? That’s crazy!
Cuz the cultist got them?
Plus they only put display of the ones they have gotten, which is alien kid and pumpkin kid
But apparently didn’t get Gerda. And then where did Guest Kid’s costume go?
What I'm confused is: how did she get rescued by officer Keith than grow up and Keith is still alive? She us a kid in guest costume she is adult in bakery?
And Gerda was the survivor therefore guest kid
Apparently Keith is an old man
I vote time traveler
Using luck divises in the cult to time travel
Keith is assumedly close to his mid 50s
Despite having less wrinkles and gray hair than Mr Peterson
In fact having no gray hair
Meaning young 20s when funding Gerda
He has better beauty products
This could explain why Gerda joined the cult since she saw too much and Neilson made her join just a theory
Or she was marveled by it
She adored being evil and cursing the town for her own good
All part of her plan of world domination
Mwahahaha
That's why women are the most dangerous and scariest beings
Bruh i just noticed that, did Random Encounters predicted the cult...?
Or did EGS just took that idea from their's?
The cult was around since the books like 4 years ago?
Oh right, I forgor 💀
The cult was around in the games since 2015 technically, or the idea of a cult. The lore of alpha versions was the neighbor was worshipping the devil or smth
yeah
the matpat theories from the alphas were wild
now we have
neighbor in spandex devil suit
Ngl I wish the game stuck with the old story and theories
maybe what happened is that pumpkin kid was also found later?
which could explain why alien kid and pumpkin kid are in the museum, but guest kid isnt
he died
maybe they spared Gerda cuz she agreed to join the cult?
maybe guest told them to spare her?
So they asked a little girl to join their cult?
Literally a 10 year old lol
I swear the only logical person to be Gerda is guest kid since the kids that went missing would’ve gotten killed by the cultist which explains there costumes being their and since guest kid isn’t there it’s the only logical person
And plus guest kid seems to be the only person to like join the cult
If they could
For now I’m settling on alien kid but I highly doubt it’s alien kid
And plus the museum was abandoned since the observatory since all main hideouts were used back then
Which means them donating costumes wouldn’t even be possible
Mayor moment
Mayor spying on people
“Hehehe” Mumbles Mayor Man
The Mayor when you the
Funny part is that Mr. Peterson has that issue on his front lawn
I hope they add cameras at the mayors that we can use to spy through the gnomes
they didn’t even explain what the contest was 😭
(Full article)
How does the mayor even get them on the lawns without getting caught, prob the cultist helping out there.
So now we have official names for location at friendly court
And yes I’m saying friendly court even though AS retconned stuff but
The Full Timeline is strong
Well now we have that secret video on the crows
Which I’m guessing seems to point
To the guest
Since we have the
“P-H ey cROW” and the “WE KNOW”
No it's "They Crow"
See
Also the Morse Code translates to "THEYCROW"
I checked
Ahh I see
So Uhh what does it mean
I mean there’s the images of the cultist burning on the screen
I thought it was just images of the Cultist
Not that it was burning
Also right before it say TheyCrow you can see Mayak's eyeball
We have no clue
Also the weird ð symbol doesn't mean anything
It's just a icelandic letter
iceland?
Apparently yes
It’s a lowercase letter d
seems kinda goofy
oh wait the letter eth
in Icelandic
nvm it’s elfdalian
Well the delay and effects indicate burning and the background too
this would make an excellent side quest in HN2: find out who made the gnomes.
Mayor moment
Hello neighbor 1 mya wearing watch original hello neighbor hide and seek mya not wearing watch
Wow this just breaks everything in the lore
The lore was so consistent and made since until you found this. Now the story is broken
maybe she was like "Dont kill me, I will join you,"
cuz literally everyone who gets caught by them say "I swear I wont say a thing"
she wore watch in the books too
I think we call that a "watch"
Really!?
Nah fr?
shouldn't have surprised anyone, but the observatory is confirmed not to be mayak in HE with the demo (yay)
Ted added on the lightning rods to the tower to use mayak's power to most likely power the spider or more time loop stuff
as the rods are not on the normal version in the park map
Is the roller coaster still called the rotten core
The coaster has no name
Well I always thought the weather station and mayak went together and the observatory was just a place that the cult did stuff in and now ted
Ahem…Full Timeli-
Wonder what was beyond that ripped piece on the top left prob Mayak
That's where the haunted house would be, a scrapped area
this
for some reason they're wiping away the existence of the haunted house
Ahh I See
or they're actually refreshing it
make it updated for fit the other levels dificulties
and then they put it in the FG as a update or smth
If they were they wouldn't be trying so hard to make sure no one knows it exists
Surprise here's the other part of the campaign we forgot to include last year
how
So seeing HE for the first time (Ive never watched or played it when it was on Stadia)
Is Guest like, the Mascot of Gaap?
That version isn’t canon
why are the attractions miles away from each other tho
like, if you try to be realistic
Imagination and gameplay. Otherwise idk
where is this??
When the
The website that needed the password
you guys solved it???
whats the password
beach what
I leave for like a week and
how was it solved?!
like
where was the arg part
?
I don't even remember the website URL
lol
Want me to link it
ye pls
Yippie!
its stupid
Remember this is the second time they've shown this, first was on the website
Mia is now mya
lore broken
when did this whole solution thing happen, really? when did you guys solve the password?
Actually someone contacted a YTber who found and then uploaded the Password
I think someone DM'd a youtuber that got the lore box and Youtuber gave the password
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This guy
That was not where we got the password though
He showed where the password is, but didnt show the actual password
Oh
ah yes, King Crane, the famous HN youtuber, who
never saw him
Another Cring YTber was the one to show us it
Someone DM'd the kids youtuber one and told where the password is
And they gave us the password
NO WAY, the guy showed non-blurry stills of the pages??
RESPECT.
Oh so that's how they figured out the password, right?
Yea
pfff nice arg....
There is a tape you can click on on the site
and haha cartoon page opens
Clicking the tape takes you into an unlisted video
The loreee
No I mean here
This video
The Tape Graphic
I clicked the bottom one, next to the cat
It plays this
It leads to this video which looks like someone had a little too much "Sugar"
I clicked this
hm
When you the
average tinybuild zen experience.

imagine if the entire page was written in wayron croobian
pain
Thankfully its not
Jay Roth still canon
Awesome
Wow, didn't see that coming
Mia and Aaron are missing?! :gasp:
wait
Gerda is Alien kid or what??? did Gerda suddenly age 30 years??
Gerda is probably Alien Kid
and Mayo is mayo for 50 years??
Kid, He was always the Mayor of Raven Brooks
Neighbor finds a 100 years old photograph of Mayor. it is him. same age.
I wonder who were the other children then.
The gnomes!
mayo's power. if you destroy the gnomes, he dies.
Watch as the farmer be the pumpkin kid
and Guest kid?
they have to be smart with Guest kid, because the suit is in Peterson's basement
oh
imagine if this was true heh. I'd laugh hard.
but no
Ike is dead. and Diane is Gerda.
Sosed
Sosed
- se suma otra estrella *⭐
Leslie is high, I swear
He's high on coffe
so, like
the plot of Quentin being so damn trash at his job, he was sent to RB, where he cannot disturb anyone
is completely dropped
or the articles just lie
like literally, they keep rewriting the whole plot in every 2 weeks
Dale Leslie when
was
"the plot of Quentin being so damn trash at his job, he was sent to RB, where he cannot disturb anyone
is completely dropped" Uhhhh was this a confirmed plot?
He’s always been traumatised
oh