#lore-discussion

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ripe berry
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Wait I realized something

shell gull
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How he drove into the museums

safe charm
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sorry for asking so many questions but were did they get the key from likely since it says it was stolen

ripe berry
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but there's no board on the outside

ripe berry
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This is how Theodore could've gotten in and opened the Garage to let his car through

shell gull
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But how did he even get his car in there

ripe berry
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I'm thinking more of how he got the Garage door open

shell gull
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Anyways Gotta go

ripe berry
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Which is shown by boards placed on a side where he could've added them on later

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and we KNOW he has a crowbar there so is it too unlikely he could've put that there after the fact

ripe berry
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So that's another mystery solved

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We also know the Forest Protectors still have the ability to curse people thanks to Kindly Keyin's video

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Or sorry

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"Cultists"

toxic mist
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like wth

ripe berry
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Also I think I know why the tapes are scattered across Raven Brooks, it's because the cultists found them and hid them so that no one would be able to find out what was going on in the Museum

ripe berry
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Maybe other ytbers got it but didn't care enough to show it

ripe berry
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I thought we figured out that that wouldn't get Theodore Anywhere

silver vine
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Ravens or cultists

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ravens is what they called them in the books

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cultists is what they're referred to in the files

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we cant call them forest protector

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forest protector is the name of the urban legend they came up with

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forest protector is not the name of the cult

shell gull
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No, it’s hinting to something else now

shell gull
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Yeah but he somehow did

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His literal car is in there

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The real question is A. How did he drive the car up to the museum? and B. How did he open the garage door?

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Also don’t forget anything over than keys in the museum Ted didn’t put there except for the Heart Key, so he basically drove in to the garage, and then barricaded it along with all the exit doors.

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Idk yet

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Most likely currently not

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What I’m focused on rn is the tapes looking for anything off

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Scattered across town but console doesn’t have that

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The cultist most likely scattered them

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To hide what’s in it

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Still loading pretty sure

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There

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That’s all the tapes in one video

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Put together

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That’s what it is

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The thing is though

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I was, you wanna know something crazy

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I was right about the museum too

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Anyways

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What I’m trying to figure out

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Is there were bunch of chants in there

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I’m also trying to figure out

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Where they summoned him in the museum

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Yeah

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Turned it off

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My guess is they summoned the guest in the attic

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Since there’s a cage their

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We know the cultist in HN2 we’re in it since they were the ones who stole the keys

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But there were definitely more

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Cultists

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There’s also the factor of the investors taking away a certain object and the mysteriously stop investing

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Possibly

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Tapps actually

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It was dale tapps

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True

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If Mr. Lore Man was right about nightmare #3 being a recreation of what happened in the tapes

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Then who’s to say the Crow Statue is holding that object

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I don’t want to @ ing them so Michealhuff

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Lore man says the end part of the tapes is the guest being summoned but my guess

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It’s the guest escaping

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Possibly

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It would make sense

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Right and if they did summon him in the attic within the cage

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Then it must’ve gotten more and more irritated

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But the clicking sounds are faint so it might be the old guest trick thing

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Right

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You know the consciousness being able to speak

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Basically the consciousness you can’t see but it can talk sometimes

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Must’ve been the consciousness being pulled into one thing then summoned the guest

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But either theory is fine with me

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Yeah but that’s not a physical thing it can disappear and reappear

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It’s the announcement trailer way before the GN even came out

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Graphic Novel

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Yup

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It’s a announcement trailer

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Of course not

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Also in SN when the guest dies he just turn into ash unlike the other classes

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Maybe

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The humming is the cultist making a ritual song

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But maybe just maybe

safe charm
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im still kinda confused about the tapes when did they summon the guest ?

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shell gull
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But it went horribly wrong

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And the guest escaped

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Nice

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The Guest ran out of the woods into Raven Brooks

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shell gull
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They used consciousness

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shell gull
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With the ritual devices which made the guest physically

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shell gull
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The crackles are the conscious

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The last big crackle at the end is it being summoned

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We Don’t know for sure

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Since the suit isn’t made out of anything

safe charm
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do we know this was in the musseum

shell gull
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Listen to the ambiance

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shell gull
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shell gull
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It closed in renovations

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Since they couldn’t access the inside after keys got stolen

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shell gull
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And we know they are cultists

safe charm
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but then how can it be stolen ? if they own it

shell gull
safe charm
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is keith a cultist

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couse he handed over the key to gerda in a video feed

shell gull
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There job is to keep the keys safe

safe charm
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do you think guest origin have changed during development

shell gull
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Well Ted is still Possessed in canon

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For GN2

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The suit means your possessed

safe charm
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we dont know fully if that was their plan

shell gull
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Gotta go see ya

safe charm
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see ya too

silver vine
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does the cassettes give us any new lore

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to me, its just guest sounds

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but with some humming sounds...

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can anyone explain

median stirrup
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Cult summons guest

silver vine
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annnnnd, how do we know?

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anything else to back this statement?

unkempt sleet
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Well theres a ritual, and Guest noises

median stirrup
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Church bells, chanting, and guest

unkempt sleet
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It sounds like a ritual anyway

silver vine
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it sure does

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but I can never see guest being some creature which is being summoned

unkempt sleet
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Though i dont think it summons Guest
To me theres a ritual going on and Guest is also there

silver vine
unkempt sleet
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Maybe he watches the ritual?

silver vine
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maybe they summoned the guest, and he just stays forever in RB now?

unkempt sleet
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Here's the full audio without the radio buzzing btw

zenith bloom
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Guest dimenson

lyric zephyr
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But nope they legit made him a demon you can summon

shell gull
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The humming is the cultist chanting a ritual song

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The end part of the 4th tape is the guest being fully summoned

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This means my theory was correct

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The reason they locked the place and stole the keys is cuz the guest ran off and they don’t want anyone to find out

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Here’s All The Tapes In Order And Edited Together

shell gull
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Yeah but the background is from HN2

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polar epoch
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What was the boss fight for hello guest

shell gull
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Rumble on The Mill

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That was the boss fight

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At least it was

silver vine
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I missed the "see" after the never

silver vine
dense ice
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I have a theory, so we know that the guest is mostly absent in hn2 and also that girl (forgor the name) so maybe if we get a dlc or an update maybe it might be like before quentin arrived In raven brooks and maybe she probably left or got kidnapped by the guest or something which is why the guest is on the road??? And maybe the other characters that never made it in the hn2 we have at the moment might be involved

bleak spear
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Do you mean mya?

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(The neighbors daughter)

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If yes then uhhh
She’s dead

dense ice
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No

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I think Beatrix person

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U could choose in hello guest

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Beetween Quentin and her

unkempt sleet
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BeatrixOMG Yea it's Beatrix

dense ice
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She’s still in the files right

snow mauve
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I don't think so

dense ice
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Damn

snow mauve
dense ice
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Ye

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She was used for the fake announcement trailer and that’s it I’m pretty sure

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But

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What if

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That would be in the game

unkempt sleet
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She is

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in the files

snow mauve
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Even in the fg?

unkempt sleet
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Yea

snow mauve
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Huh?

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Ain't no way

unkempt sleet
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They just didnt deleted her

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i dont think it means something though

dense ice
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I mean

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Maybe a dlc?????

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I mean tiny build would never fake a trailer come on

snow mauve
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Terrible idea

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Ain't nobody wanna waste another buck of it

dense ice
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We’ll

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Well

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Until

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Hn2 upgrades

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I guess

snow mauve
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No another dlc is awful idea

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I prefer instead adding it in the content updates

tribal talon
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Story updates would be better

dense ice
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Yeah

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I did say that

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On original text

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But I guess free dlc

hazy slate
snow mauve
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I feel sorry for you

shell gull
crude dew
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do you guys ever think about the cultist statue in the museum? why were floors build around it, if it's something holy? was the cult something from decades ago, and the new characters just rediscovered and renewed it?

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cuz that statue doesn't only look very old, and unused, but....uh
it's a bit weird

shell gull
crude dew
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I meant in the game...the books aren't canon anymore 😛

shell gull
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And also since Alex said “Canon is a flexible term” and “Everything Is canon” that means we gotta mix canons, that’s why we have the Full Timeline Concept

tawdry tinsel
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i need community opinions rn for a fan comic currently in the planning.

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How tall do you reckon the Janitor/Headmaster is?

unkempt sleet
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I dont think he's being serious here

silver vine
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the town was literally built around the cult

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so yes the cult is important and lets stop whining about it

shell gull
silver vine
unkempt sleet
crude dew
shell gull
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He don’t put any joke or nothing just straight that

unkempt sleet
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You mean this one?

shell gull
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But still he said flexible terms so yeah

unkempt sleet
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Those three are the only times Alex said"Everything is canon"

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Unless he worded it differently

shell gull
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Oh Well still flexible terms

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Just updated the doc, later I’m going to continue adding more, as I’m gonna skip AS for now and go straight to Hello Neighbor to hello Neighbor 2 and the events leading up to it

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Also let me know of any grammar issues

uncut mulch
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What happens to Aaron after act 2

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And hn2 ending

ripe berry
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We don't know anything about what happens after HN2 that isn't in the gray area of "is it retconned or not"

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and also in the gray area of "Was this even the intended answer to what happens after HN2"

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But it seems like Aaron lights the Neighbor/His Dad's house on fire after HN2 (based off a old statement that Hello Neighbor: Hide and Seek would reveal who burnt down the house and him being the only character in HNHS who is both alive at the end of the game and would have a reason for doing so) and ends up dead somehow (based off Theodore talking as if he(Aaron) was dead along with the rest of his family in Graphic Novel #2)

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But still not only this but pretty much everything we thought we ever knew about this franchise pre-HN2 is now in the gray area of is it canon still or not thanks to the Animated Series

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Also known as Welcome to Raven Brooks

shell gull
stone plover
shell gull
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If you see any grammar problems let me know

shell gull
pale urchin
# unkempt sleet

Sometimes, Alex deserves to be recognized with every issue he has point out

tribal talon
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hello neighbours

ripe berry
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hi

tribal talon
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so question about mya's death

ripe berry
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Ask away

tribal talon
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so i know its their imagination and all but how does she get on the roof in the first place

ripe berry
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I mean how did Nicky climb the chimney in AS, and did you forget about the ladder on the back of the house

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(just mentioning both things as now they're both possible to be the reason)

tribal talon
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but that wasnt there in hn hs

ripe berry
tribal talon
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ya

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there would be no reason

ripe berry
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It's not there bc you'd never see it

tribal talon
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unless peterson wanted them to go on the roof

ripe berry
tribal talon
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ya but why would it be there

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like there was no whole in the roof

ripe berry
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and it's not like Theodore could stop them

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The exact way they get onto the roof was never confirmed so we just have to speculate

tribal talon
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ok

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im gonna go confront your next door neighbour for putting that ladder their

ripe berry
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Maybe Theodore needed to do some work on his roof that day and just forgot due to the depression to remove the ladder

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We can assume he's just been in the kitchen during the events of Stage 5 thanks to the ending of the launch trailer

tribal talon
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so he was preparing the grave]

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he wanted her to die

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hmmm makes sense

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🤔

ripe berry
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OR if my theory is correct he's been trying several times with looping time back to try to save Diane and Mya and at this point has just accepted that Mya is going to die and doesn't do anything to try and stop it

tribal talon
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wait what

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thats not possible

ripe berry
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in HE he's testing time loops to try to go back in time to save Mya and Diane

ripe berry
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Time Loops are established concepts in this universe

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and they're caused by the Purple Lightning connected to the Weather Station

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Theodore could easily get his hands on the Book 7 Rings that let you remember past time loops

tribal talon
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and in hn diaries in one cutscene in which nicky looks at a broken window

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it has a note with 3 words

ripe berry
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THIS is how Mayak explains everything

tribal talon
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i think they said i idk what the second word is and leave

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it was in freaze zanes video

ripe berry
tribal talon
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2022 edition

safe charm
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So what’s the story of hn 2 can someone tell me I don’t fully understand it all ?

ripe berry
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but in Wayron Croobian

tribal talon
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oh

ripe berry
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it says that bc they were too lazy to make it book and say "I make bad things happen"

ripe berry
safe charm
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But the basic

ripe berry
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So before the events of HN2 some Trick or Treaters go missing on Halloween due to storms and only one is found, The Guest is created in a cult ritual, the Museum gets shut down, and a Journalist at the Raven Brooks Banner goes missing because "he got too close to them"

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They get a new journalist, named Quentin, from the nearby City to replace him

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Act 2 from HN1 happens which leads into the intro for the game

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Where Quentin witnesses Theodore taking Aaron back into the house by force

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Theodore smashes Quentin's window after locking Aaron up, and Quentin drives away only to crash into a barn because the Guest popped up out of nowhere

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After getting out of the Barn Theodore knocks Quentin out, taking his camera in the process to make sure as little evidence against him would be out there as possible

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Between the Intro and Day 1 a unknown figure takes Quentin back to the Banner, and Nicky (+ The Rescue Squad) report Mr.Peterson to the cops

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This is where the scene they showed to hype up HN2 Happens

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This one

safe charm
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Ik

tribal talon
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there was a journalist before quentin

ripe berry
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"and a Journalist at the Raven Brooks Banner goes missing because "he got too close to them""

tribal talon
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yeah but how did you find out

ripe berry
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Let's see: tinyBuild sent Kindly Keyin a package full of lore

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and the Demo has a missing poster for him

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He's also Mr.Otto's friend

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The guy on the left in this image

ripe berry
tribal talon
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wait why kindly keyin

ripe berry
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If it's the character in the ending then sorry we don't know who he is

ripe berry
tribal talon
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idk your the one who told me

safe charm
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I think he saw the guest being summoned

ripe berry
tribal talon
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the kid in the crow costume became the guest right

ripe berry
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The ending guy has no hair

ripe berry
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The Kid in the Crow Costume is the Trick or Treater that's found

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The ones who have the fake versions of them found in the Museum are the ones that are never found and end up getting the Raven Brooks Middle School shut down

tribal talon
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oh

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ok

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darn kids

manic dirge
shell gull
lyric zephyr
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Why would Otto keep around a happy picture of the man he killed

mighty ember
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avoiding suspicion

lyric zephyr
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But he already keeps people out of his home at all costs

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He wouldn't keep a happy picture of his apparent fishing buddy where it's always in sight for him after murdering him

ripe berry
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not to mention the Cult Otto is most likely a part of has people in the Police Force

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So even if any evidence was found the cult would be able to destroy it

shell gull
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He probably regretted doing it but he had to do it

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I’m not saying it was Otto who did it, but the fact that Otto is a cultist, and the journalist died to them makes it very possible.

unkempt sleet
crude dew
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if Otto is a cultist, then he is the craziest dude in the whole team
some kind of Katamaranov (if you know, you know)

crude dew
ripe berry
# unkempt sleet How do you know Missing Journalist is even dead?

in Kindly Keyin's "Hello Neighbor sent me a package" YT Short the missing Journalist has a thing where a unknown character highlighted letters to read "he got too close to them" and they(Unknown Character(lore-wise) and tinyBuild(IRL)) wouldn't talk like that if he was alive

crude dew
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so technically
they pulled Ike's story
on this missing journalist now

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bro

ripe berry
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They can do that since we don't know if Ike is still canon

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so there's no confirmed repeats in deaths in the story

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Considering 99% of what we know from pre-HN2 lore is possibly no longer canon

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(thank you Animated Series for ruining the perfect lore because you guys didn't try to adapt it to animation well)

crude dew
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Ike is so uncanon, even Alex doesn't remember him (search Ike's name)
it was something old they scrapped even during writing the books, I think that's why he just...died right at the prologue, which is available for free online 🥹
kinda humiliating...he could've been an interesting character....

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what I really liked in the books, is how weirdly the book 3 ending played out, how meaningless it was from plot pov, that Nicky had "friends" (he still broke in alone anyway), and I liked Ike later, and Norman Darby's character

ripe berry
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I thought by Book 3's ending Nicky's friends abandoned him

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and also they gave him friends because at first they needed to flesh out Raven Brooks

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But then when they made the books canon they needed to recreate the feeling of being alone from Act 1 of the original game for the third book

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Also it doesn't make sense Nicky never goes to the abandoned weather station (Sure it didn't exist yet but they really didn't need to give it a single line in Book 3, at least imply Nicky has been there off-screen)

crude dew
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they did abandon him. from plot perspective, it was entirely meaningless to include them, because in the end of the day, they added NOTHING to the climax of the story. Nicky did the same as in HN (except he wanted to slaughter Neighbor, he literally broke in to the house alone and with rage haha funny, then he figured out the truth, luckily)

Also it doesn't make sense Nicky never goes to the abandoned weather station
yeah, noone can ever convince me, that a guy, who has discovered EVERY abandoned place in RB, and purposefully went for adventures like this, was not interested in an abandoned weather station. in book 3, he was, like "ah yeah, that thing is there....idc"

hazy slate
ripe berry
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Made Nicky look insane

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So that when Nicky would eventually break into Theodore's House it'd look like Nicky couldn't handle it and ran off

shell gull
shell gull
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That he knows is dead

thorn arrow
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Me and my sister are fighting over who the player is in the first games so my sister says he is the neighbours brother and I say he is just a guy. Could someone tell me

mental knot
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Its a child,Called Nicky That Tries To Discovers The Secret Of His Sussy NeighbourMoustacheless

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In the Finale He Is Already Like An Adult

shell gull
thorn arrow
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I see thanks to both of you 🙏

rigid raven
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I'm pretty bummed and a little frustrated they haven't picked up where book 3 left off. Even just one book to wrap it up. I'm mostly convinced we won't ever see another HN book. Instead, we'll get the AS which is decent, but they are trying to be so edgy with. The books actually made raven brooks seem interesting

silver vine
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I know many ppl who hate the cult storyline

silver vine
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or he got murdered by the guest himself

silver vine
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he wouldnt keep that photo if he murdered him

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and, how the heck would the photo not being there alert suspicion?

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nobody comes to the house

shell gull
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Also if your grandma died you wouldn’t just take down all the pictures of her

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I’d imagine it’s the same in this situation

snow mauve
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It's a theory bruh

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We don't know what really happened to him

untold creek
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well if hello neighbor 3 comes out that’ll probably answer it

untold creek
snow mauve
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Also we don't need no hello neighbor 3

shell gull
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He’s dead TinyBuild is implying he’s dead with the “He got too close” which seems to imply he’s dead

lyric zephyr
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He has his just close to his bed

shell gull
# lyric zephyr He has his just close to his bed

It’s on his desk, also it would be weird if it was a different cultist still, also Otto isn’t the type with sadness, just cuz the cops are cultist it would still be weird he randomly takes down the picture.

shell gull
unkempt sleet
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"He has theighest chance of being one to do it"
Literally they are the only characters in the game that we know is good friends

manic dirge
shell gull
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Like I said before I’m not saying Otto killed him but I’d imagine he’d be the most ethical person to do that

shell gull
ripe berry
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(also Nielsen canonically is Keith from the books thanks to HND)

unkempt sleet
silver vine
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thats not what you do?

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we KEEP their pictures as memory and rememberance

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we keep the pictures of our loved ones so that we can see them and mourn for them and remember them

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I dont think anyone throws away photos of dead ppl?

crude dew
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this is something I just....can't
no
no thanks
idk if KK had anything else besides this video, people mention things as fact, which I have no idea about.

shell gull
unkempt sleet
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Nielson*

untold folio
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is the guest seperate from peterson in current hn lore?

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cause wasnt peterson controlled by him before? but now we have tapes teasing the guest, it just confuses me ALOT

unkempt sleet
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Guest is separate from Mr. Peterson

untold folio
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alright that clears some things up

thin wadi
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Is the old story of hn2 still in the timeline?

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Like the old abandoned town, from the alphas

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It could have been after the flood in the books

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Then the town gets abandoned because of the flood

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Also the guest used to be mr Peterson in the old story

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Because in the GN he got possessed by the guest

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So hello neighbor 2 is before the flood even happened

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Before the abandon town

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So maybe hello guest will be a game in the future?

crude dew
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all I want to know currently...is the missing journalist's story legit Ike's story, just reworked?! fr
a guy, who's got so close to a cult and died/disappeared
oh wow

ripe berry
lavish narwhal
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i think i know who hits you in hn2 in the alpha 1 for hello neighbor you can find a pic of the neighbor and some other guy so i think the guy in the pic who is not the neighbor is the guy who hits you in hn2

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facts

shell gull
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Which can explain why Ted try’s to knock him out

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In the AS picture

hazy slate
thin wadi
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What if act 3 of HN1 was Nicky's diaries

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Been thinking...

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Nickies diaries seems more fun and is basically the sane premise of act 3 but it its more of remembering your childhood in raven Brooks

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Also the soundtrack is pretty good and the neighbor has an actual chase theme

shell gull
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Well some more random YouTuber got the package and now we have something on Gerda saying “trust no one” basically proving her as a cultist

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I couldn’t look crazy into it cuz of the amount of stupidity, goofy theory’s and cringe made my Brain swell

unkempt sleet
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I wonder if it continues the text under the other paper

shell gull
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All we know is it weighed an INCREDIBLE…17.65

unkempt sleet
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Heres all the papers if someone wants to look more deep into it

unkempt sleet
shell gull
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Cultists cursing the Petersons

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We now have confirmed dates for when hello neighbor 2 takes place

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Several weeks after Book 3/Ep 4 AS/Act 1

crude dew
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  • has a massive fight against cultists
  • proceeds to live in RB
    🤔
plush shard
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But if HN2 takes place shortly after Act 1, then Nicky can't be trapped in the basement at thag time. They retconned that too, I presume?

unkempt sleet
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it doesnt take place after act 1, it takes place right after act 2

plush shard
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Oh good. At least they kept some continuity intact.

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Among other things, that's one thing I'm glad they kept.

crude dew
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it is exactly at the moment Nicky escapes
Aaron breaks something and proceeds to escape, and Theodore catches him

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Quentin is just blind and doesn't see an escaping kid what if he hit him with the van

plush shard
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Ah, ah, ah Remi. That's not family friendly...neighborlol

crude dew
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oh shoot

shell gull
hazy slate
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Aaron was just slow

crude dew
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probably
to the
basic house he has 🥹

hazy slate
hazy slate
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and an attic kitchen

ripe berry
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Last date we had was 2 months after Act 1

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since Act 2 is 2 months after Act 1

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and AS Ep. 6 marks the end of SN, the entirety of HNVR, the actual events of Act 2, and the start of HN2

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according to Alex | CEO himself for the AS Ep. 6 part

ripe berry
pale urchin
wicked heath
#

Ik, but Keith was described with glasses

#

Also, apparently books lost its canon...

#

Goose was described differently from its game counterpart in book 7

#

Gueset

#

(yes)

#

Like: LOTS of feathers... and claws

#

idk Norman Darby being the missing journalist is a leap of a theory, especially considering in the books, he went missing like 30 years before Quentins arrival

#

I think i thought of this first, cus the Neighbor and Darby were allies. And if it IS the journalist in the ending

mighty ember
#

i swear if the guest in game turns into this..

shell gull
#

Cuz of this it’s been changed to a 1 month and 3 weeks supposedly

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Cultists cursing the Petersons

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It’s basically 2 months later still it’s just been moved earlier into 7 weeks

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Which means the Full Timelines Gonna have that quick 1 WEEK change

wicked heath
#

Prob Quentin

snow mauve
ripe berry
wicked heath
#

Which is before act 1

#

Nicky has said 3 times he has been on Mr. Peterson "for months"

ripe berry
#

Meaning at least 2 months have to pass before Act 1 even starts because it's months pural and not month singular

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Making it impossible to the article to be from HN2

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and very unlikely to be from Act 1

shell gull
#

So generally speaking when did Nicky start breaking in and when does Act 2 take place

ripe berry
#

The exact amount of time after HNHS's ending Nicky starts breaking in and the amount of time he's been doing this for by the start of the Animated Series is unknown

#

However assuming game months and days (not years tho) are canon again it has to be at most 8 Months by the start of the AS assuming it(AS) starts only 2 days before Act 1 (AS Ep. 2 and Ep. 3 happen on the same day)

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and at least 2 months before the start of AS for months plural to make sense

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however I think anything less then 6 months most people would say "A few Months" or "A Couple of Months" instead of "For Months"

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so I'd say by the start of the Animated Series Nicky started breaking in somewhere between 6 and 8 months ago

#

let's just go with 7 Months here

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So he'd start a month after HNHS with this assumption

#

Act 2 still happens 2 months after Act 1 like it did before unless they change the month amount

trim vessel
#

what is this?

ripe berry
#

Something that gets constantly retconned

#

(also known as the Hello Neighbor Lore)

tribal talon
#

This lore is more confusing then the fnaf lore I’m not joking.

hazy slate
ripe berry
grand night
#

Hey guys! Will there be a new update to hello neighbor 2? Because I finished the game but it wrote to me that it was not the end.

tribal talon
#

The devs released HN2 unfinished and are finishing it with updates ('finishing' it does not include any of the game's scrapped content)

tribal talon
tribal talon
silver vine
#

what are they hiding the re?

silver vine
#

its def Peterson

lyric zephyr
shell gull
#

It’s being retconned accept it

lyric zephyr
#

I'm willing to say 1 day on a 30 minute lunch break

languid geyser
hazy slate
#

if it's the books then no

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I refuse

snow mauve
#

Yes the books story has been retconned

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Cuz AS

#

They're no longer canon

languid geyser
#

so there no longer cannon to the games?

snow mauve
#

I guess

#

Yeah

languid geyser
#

thats kinda disapointing.

#

i guess reading the books is all for nothing.

snow mauve
#

Some of the stuff like Mayak, Guest, Lucy's death, and other stuff are still canon

#

Obviously cuz the game's and AS does mention them

languid geyser
snow mauve
#

I'm not quite sure

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The lore of this game is a mess and confusing

languid geyser
#

cause Im pretty sure that one about the cult

snow mauve
#

Idk what's canon nor not anymore

languid geyser
#

dang

snow mauve
#

It's complicated

languid geyser
#

i really wish they did comic books

#

like what they got to lose by doing comic books

snow mauve
#

Something that is kinda like comics

languid geyser
#

isnt there only 1 graphic novel tho

snow mauve
#

There's 2

unkempt sleet
#

2

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Theres two

languid geyser
#

i saw the first one

#

whats the 2nd one?

unkempt sleet
#

Raven Brooks Disaster

languid geyser
#

interesting

snow mauve
#

This one

#

Is the 2nd one

languid geyser
#

i think i remember this book

#

somehow.

snow mauve
#

Spoilers ||it showed the guest of who he actually is and Mr. Peterson's death||

languid geyser
snow mauve
#

Yeah it's somewhere after hn2

#

And probably before act 3 still

#

Or idk

#

We don't know but it does take place after hn2 for sure

languid geyser
#

which means Aaron would be somewhere at a teen age

snow mauve
#

Yet we still don't know what happened to Aaron

#

Like as if he's dead or alive somewhere

snow mauve
#

He's like 13 year old

languid geyser
languid geyser
snow mauve
#

I don't think we'll ever have that

languid geyser
#

you never know until the next update

#

unless there saving that for HN 3.

shell gull
blazing wadi
#

I'm confused on the canon of this series, so we have HN1 with Nicky being the protagonist and being Mr. Peterson's neighbor.
Now we have Hello Neighbor 2, which should be a direct sequel of the first but now it follows the series canon where it's Trinity to be Peterson's neighbor... So, does this mean the first game is not canon? Is Hello Neighbor 2 and the cartoon series in an alternate universe from the main series? It's confusing.

finite steeple
#

Idk, but that's what I think.

blazing wadi
#

It's possible, not consistent with HN1 layout but at least that would give it some sort of explanation.

thin valve
#

sup @balmy quiver

balmy quiver
#

@thin valve sup

shell gull
#

But book canon got heavily retconned

ripe berry
#

(I hate the explanation as much as the next guy but someone had to say it)

silver vine
#

wait

#

is Gerda alien kid or guest kid?

#

we thought that guest kid was the one who was found as he was the one absent in the museum, but now its confirmed that Gerda was the kid who was found and alien kid does look a lot like Gerda

#

so

#

which kid was actually found?

unkempt sleet
#

Guest kid doesnt look like a female, so i think Alien Kid was Gerda

silver vine
#

but guest kid is not in the museum

#

but alien kid is

#

why would alien kid be in the museum if she was found?

unkempt sleet
#

Maybe they put those costumes there as a memorial for what happened? and they didnt wanted to put Guest. Idk just speculation

silver vine
#

anyway its interesting to note that one of the kids was the baker

shell gull
#

The missing kids was from a couple weeks before so how could gerda somehow grow to an adult in a span of a couple weeks

shell gull
unkempt sleet
shell gull
#

Bro

unkempt sleet
#

They literally said in the article bruh

#

let me find it

#

She was one of the costumed missing kids

#

and only Alien kid is a girl

shell gull
# unkempt sleet

Nah it’s guest kid he’s the only one who’s costume isn’t there

#

And also didn’t see that article

#

Anyways gotta go

unkempt sleet
#

Im sorry but this guy doesnt look like a girl to me

wicked yacht
#

Oh my god its the Guest

#

From secret neigbor

snow mauve
#

Guest kid!

hazy slate
thin wadi
#

Woah woah woah

#

Her name is gerda

#

Coincidence

glacial whale
#

The missing posters for the trick or treaters look more older than the others.

shell gull
manic dirge
#

or guest kid

shell gull
#

Also it’s guest kid not alien kid, if it was alien kid then it would make zero sense whatsoever

manic dirge
hazy slate
#

Also guest kid is a boy.

shell gull
shell gull
manic dirge
hazy slate
hazy slate
manic dirge
manic dirge
hazy slate
shell gull
hazy slate
#

does that look like a girls

hazy slate
manic dirge
shell gull
manic dirge
hazy slate
#

well

#

not guest kids

shell gull
shell gull
#

Also she was a child?????

hazy slate
shell gull
hazy slate
shell gull
#

Also all main cult hideous are as old as the observatory and have been used since the observatory

shell gull
hazy slate
#

yes gerda totally wore their halloween costume throughout their entire childhood

shell gull
#

Look what you said

hazy slate
#

A child will totally stay child sized even into adult hood yes

#

it's not like children grow up

shell gull
# hazy slate ?????????

You said “Costumes can’t change body shape” then you say “who says she didn’t have a massive growth spurt”

shell gull
#

I’m talking about when they were kids adulthood doesn’t effect anything

hazy slate
#

it has zero to do with costumes

shell gull
#

Listen all I’m gonna say is the kids who died were never recovered and were killed by cultist, what hideout is used by cultist… the museum and the only costumes in their are alien kid and pumpkin kid, and Gerda was the only one to survive and got recovered what costume wasn’t in the museum, GUEST KID.

#

Point proven

#

Gotta go

hazy slate
shell gull
hazy slate
#

also the reason why they are on display, I'm not sure but it might be an exhibit to the storm.

shell gull
hazy slate
# shell gull Proof

I cannot provide proof on pumpkin kid, but Ailen kid (Gerda) certainly came back, Guest kid's costume is absent because they were never found

shell gull
hazy slate
#

Also

#

I'm pretty sure somewhere it said find him save him with guest kid's picture

#

Don't take my word for it though

#

Not 100% sure, could be thinking of something else.

#

(Like nog simming)

shell gull
shell gull
hazy slate
hazy slate
shell gull
hazy slate
shell gull
#

The kids were killed by the cultist, what hideout do the cultist use, museum, what are the only costumes there, alien and pumpkin kids, who was found Gerda, the only absent costume, guest kid.

#

Point proven

#

And if you continue to argue then there’s no hope in bringing the truth to you

#

Until they actually confirm anything

hazy slate
hazy slate
shell gull
# hazy slate Because guest kid was never found

Bro omg 💀 the cultist killed them and if they killed them and the only person found was Gerda and the cultist had there bodies that meant they had the costumes which is why the costumes are in the museum, and the only costume not their is guest kid and Gerda was the only one found which meant they never got the costume.

hazy slate
shell gull
#

Unlike what your presenting

hazy slate
hazy slate
#

which is the costume absence

shell gull
shell gull
hazy slate
shell gull
#

And please don’t continue this argument you’ve been proven wrong so many times

hazy slate
shell gull
shell gull
hazy slate
shell gull
shell gull
lyric zephyr
#

So they displayed the costumes they died in, in a public apparently “famous” museum for the lols

#

Except 1 didn’t die because Gerda is apparently Alien Kid

#

And she joined the cult that tried to kill her and did kill her friends because… reasons

#

But they put her costume on display anyway despite the fact she didn’t die and wasn’t caught by them

#

I love Fullgame lore

#

How did they even get her costume if she escaped

#

They broke more of their now established lore

#

They’re breaking the lore that destroyed every other piece of lore lmao

mighty ember
#

🥲

thin wadi
#

Hello Neighbor: Lore Breakers

#

New game real

shell gull
#

I was arguing earlier about my point so please don’t argue

lyric zephyr
#

But, Alien Kid is the known girl of the group

#

And they both wear polka dot shirts

shell gull
lyric zephyr
#

And Gerda is a girl

#

So Gerda almost 90% is Alien Kid

shell gull
#

Then how is she alive if they put the kids who died costumes for display

lyric zephyr
#

Who said they all died, apparently that isn’t a thing anymore since Gerda was one of them

#

What, you think they can make new characters? That’s crazy!

shell gull
#

Plus they only put display of the ones they have gotten, which is alien kid and pumpkin kid

lyric zephyr
#

But apparently didn’t get Gerda. And then where did Guest Kid’s costume go?

thin wadi
#

What I'm confused is: how did she get rescued by officer Keith than grow up and Keith is still alive? She us a kid in guest costume she is adult in bakery?

shell gull
#

And Gerda was the survivor therefore guest kid

shell gull
thin wadi
#

Using luck divises in the cult to time travel

lyric zephyr
#

Keith is assumedly close to his mid 50s

#

Despite having less wrinkles and gray hair than Mr Peterson

#

In fact having no gray hair

shell gull
thin wadi
shell gull
#

This could explain why Gerda joined the cult since she saw too much and Neilson made her join just a theory

thin wadi
#

Or she was marveled by it

#

She adored being evil and cursing the town for her own good

#

All part of her plan of world domination

#

Mwahahaha

snow mauve
#

That's why women are the most dangerous and scariest beings

shell gull
#

Fun fact: Tapps isn’t a snitch since he didn’t snitch on Keith

#

Being a cultist

snow mauve
#

Bruh i just noticed that, did Random Encounters predicted the cult...?

#

Or did EGS just took that idea from their's?

shell gull
snow mauve
#

Oh right, I forgor 💀

thin wadi
#

The cult was around in the games since 2015 technically, or the idea of a cult. The lore of alpha versions was the neighbor was worshipping the devil or smth

deep kernel
#

now we have

#

neighbor in spandex devil suit

thin wadi
silver vine
#

which could explain why alien kid and pumpkin kid are in the museum, but guest kid isnt

#

he died

#

maybe they spared Gerda cuz she agreed to join the cult?

#

maybe guest told them to spare her?

lyric zephyr
#

Literally a 10 year old lol

shell gull
#

I swear the only logical person to be Gerda is guest kid since the kids that went missing would’ve gotten killed by the cultist which explains there costumes being their and since guest kid isn’t there it’s the only logical person

#

And plus guest kid seems to be the only person to like join the cult

#

If they could

#

For now I’m settling on alien kid but I highly doubt it’s alien kid

#

And plus the museum was abandoned since the observatory since all main hideouts were used back then

#

Which means them donating costumes wouldn’t even be possible

fast slate
#

what

cerulean onyx
#

Mayor moment

ripe berry
#

Mayor spying on people

shell gull
ripe berry
shell gull
#

Funny part is that Mr. Peterson has that issue on his front lawn

#

I hope they add cameras at the mayors that we can use to spy through the gnomes

mighty ember
# fast slate

they didn’t even explain what the contest was 😭

ripe berry
shell gull
stiff spire
#

I feel like the gnomes might be paranormal

#

gnomes when the

shell gull
#

So now we have official names for location at friendly court

#

And yes I’m saying friendly court even though AS retconned stuff but

#

The Full Timeline is strong

#

Well now we have that secret video on the crows

#

Which I’m guessing seems to point

#

To the guest

#

Since we have the

#

“P-H ey cROW” and the “WE KNOW”

ripe berry
#

Also the Morse Code translates to "THEYCROW"

#

I checked

shell gull
shell gull
#

I mean there’s the images of the cultist burning on the screen

ripe berry
#

I thought it was just images of the Cultist

#

Not that it was burning

#

Also right before it say TheyCrow you can see Mayak's eyeball

ripe berry
#

Also the weird ð symbol doesn't mean anything

#

It's just a icelandic letter

toxic mist
#

iceland?

ripe berry
#

Apparently yes

toxic mist
#

It’s a lowercase letter d

#

seems kinda goofy

#

oh wait the letter eth

#

in Icelandic

#

nvm it’s elfdalian

shell gull
short fox
# fast slate

this would make an excellent side quest in HN2: find out who made the gnomes.

unborn coyote
#

Hello neighbor 1 mya wearing watch original hello neighbor hide and seek mya not wearing watch

glacial whale
#

Wow this just breaks everything in the lore

#

The lore was so consistent and made since until you found this. Now the story is broken

silver vine
#

cuz literally everyone who gets caught by them say "I swear I wont say a thing"

silver vine
cedar merlin
glacial whale
thin wadi
strange lance
#

shouldn't have surprised anyone, but the observatory is confirmed not to be mayak in HE with the demo (yay)

#

Ted added on the lightning rods to the tower to use mayak's power to most likely power the spider or more time loop stuff

#

as the rods are not on the normal version in the park map

thin wadi
#

Is the roller coaster still called the rotten core

strange lance
#

The coaster has no name

thin wadi
#

Oh

#

But in th books- "The books aren't canon 🤓 "

glacial whale
#

Well I always thought the weather station and mayak went together and the observatory was just a place that the cult did stuff in and now ted

shell gull
#

Wonder what was beyond that ripped piece on the top left prob Mayak

strange lance
#

That's where the haunted house would be, a scrapped area

#

for some reason they're wiping away the existence of the haunted house

loud tartan
#

make it updated for fit the other levels dificulties

#

and then they put it in the FG as a update or smth

strange lance
#

If they were they wouldn't be trying so hard to make sure no one knows it exists

#

Surprise here's the other part of the campaign we forgot to include last year

unkempt sleet
#

So seeing HE for the first time (Ive never watched or played it when it was on Stadia)
Is Guest like, the Mascot of Gaap?

strange lance
#

Like how it was confirmed?

crude dew
glacial whale
#

Imagination and gameplay. Otherwise idk

crude dew
snow mauve
#

When the

ripe berry
#

What

#

What did I miss

snow mauve
crude dew
#

whats the password

snow mauve
#

Be sure it's all Capitalized

crude dew
#

beach what
I leave for like a week and

how was it solved?!

#

like
where was the arg part

#

?

#

I don't even remember the website URL

#

lol

snow mauve
#

Want me to link it

crude dew
#

ye pls

snow mauve
#

Here you go

ripe berry
#

Welp looks like Act 3 is now real

snow mauve
#

Yippie!

manic dirge
ripe berry
strange lance
#

they still can't the tracks on the left correctly placed

#

even in the new one

crude dew
snow mauve
#

Mia is now mya

crude dew
#

lore broken

#

when did this whole solution thing happen, really? when did you guys solve the password?

ripe berry
unkempt sleet
#

I think someone DM'd a youtuber that got the lore box and Youtuber gave the password

snow mauve
# crude dew beach what I leave for like a week and how was it solved?!

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▶ Play video
#

This guy

unkempt sleet
#

That was not where we got the password though

#

He showed where the password is, but didnt show the actual password

snow mauve
#

Oh

crude dew
#

ah yes, King Crane, the famous HN youtuber, who

never saw him

ripe berry
unkempt sleet
#

Someone DM'd the kids youtuber one and told where the password is
And they gave us the password

crude dew
#

NO WAY, the guy showed non-blurry stills of the pages??
RESPECT.

snow mauve
unkempt sleet
#

Yea

crude dew
#

pfff nice arg....

ripe berry
#

There is a tape you can click on on the site

crude dew
#

and haha cartoon page opens

unkempt sleet
#

Clicking the tape takes you into an unlisted video

snow mauve
#

The loreee

ripe berry
unkempt sleet
#

This video

crude dew
#

Diary will be the number one page in my heart. forever.

#

oooh you mean that tape

ripe berry
crude dew
#

I clicked the bottom one, next to the cat

snow mauve
ripe berry
crude dew
#

I clicked this
hm

crude dew
ripe berry
crude dew
#

imagine if the entire page was written in wayron croobian

ripe berry
#

pain

unkempt sleet
#

Thankfully its not

snow mauve
#

OMG Nicky is missing!?

#

😱😱😱

unkempt sleet
#

Jay Roth still canon
Awesome

snow mauve
#

Wow, didn't see that coming

ripe berry
#

Mia and Aaron are missing?! :gasp:

crude dew
#

wait
Gerda is Alien kid or what??? did Gerda suddenly age 30 years??

ripe berry
crude dew
#

and Mayo is mayo for 50 years??

unkempt sleet
#

Kid, He was always the Mayor of Raven Brooks

crude dew
#

Neighbor finds a 100 years old photograph of Mayor. it is him. same age.

#

I wonder who were the other children then.

snow mauve
#

The gnomes!

crude dew
#

mayo's power. if you destroy the gnomes, he dies.

snow mauve
crude dew
#

and Guest kid?

snow mauve
#

Oh wait I'm sorry, he's a barn now

#

Yeah of course

crude dew
#

they have to be smart with Guest kid, because the suit is in Peterson's basement

snow mauve
#

In the beta yeah

#

Fg

#

It vanishes

crude dew
#

oh

#

imagine if this was true heh. I'd laugh hard.
but no
Ike is dead. and Diane is Gerda.

snow mauve
#

Sosed

crude dew
#

Sosed

elfin viper
#
  • se suma otra estrella *⭐
crude dew
#

Leslie is high, I swear

unkempt sleet
#

He's high on coffe

crude dew
#

so, like
the plot of Quentin being so damn trash at his job, he was sent to RB, where he cannot disturb anyone
is completely dropped
or the articles just lie

like literally, they keep rewriting the whole plot in every 2 weeks

wicked heath
shell gull
#

So Uhh

#

Tapes are different

unkempt sleet
deep yarrow
#

Gerda was traumatized?

#

didn't the same thing happen to Aaron? in the AS pilot

shell gull
deep yarrow
#

oh

shell gull
#

Anyways focus TAPES

#

They got changed

deep yarrow
#

yeah

#

but about the theycrow video

#

there is music in part of the video