lore-discussion

[pure ivy]

he can mess with peoples minds, put himself in nightmares, ect

its evident in Graphic Novel 2 and HN2

(the first nightmare cutscene)

[shell gull]

Exactly That’s Why They Stole The Keys So No One Would Know!!

[pure ivy]

which means hes got an influence over people's mind

[pure ivy]

shut up

youre not letting me finish

[wicked heath]

how the hell is this even related

[shell gull]

Sorry

[pure ivy]

now, in Graphic Novel 2, we see a peek into the Guest's...world??? Something along the lines

[shell gull]

Right?

[pure ivy]

A red world

with a red sky

and red landscape

[wicked heath]

dream moment

[pure ivy]

still

let me speak this out

[shell gull]

Hold Up Strange Neighbor?

[pure ivy]

NO

oh my god i CANT with you people

[shell gull]

Continue

[wicked heath]

oh my god

[pure ivy]

we know that the Guest is capable of giving people dreams that feel real

[shell gull]

Yeah?

[pure ivy]

Quentin's nightmare scene, and that girl from GN2

now, heres the fun part

the mayak, alright?

take this into consideration

the guest's world sky is red

the REAL world's sky is blue

what does the mayak create?

[silver vine]

whaat, how do we know he was at the door

[pure ivy]

purple storms

[pure ivy]

its implied

it could just be another clone of ted

[wicked heath]

if anything, the dude at the door is just Peterson

[pure ivy]

but still

[shell gull]

👀

[shell gull]

Actually No In HGP It Was Actually Early Version Man In The Hat

[pure ivy]

which means the mayak is a potential entrance/exit for the guest to come in and out from

but, who knows

maybe its just me losing my mind

[shell gull]

And That’s Why In HGP He Tries To Blow Up The Wall To Get To MAYAK

[wicked heath]

The Man in the Hat doesnt fkin exist anymore

[silver vine]

what crow statue was ABOVE the museum

theres crow statue only inside the museum

[shell gull]

He Meant Inside In Main Room

[pure ivy]

i meant the

[silver vine]

ah

[pure ivy]

the huge statue

in the main area

[silver vine]

hows that the guest

[pure ivy]

could be a failed host

he makes sounds the guest would make

even when he crushes ted

[shell gull]

Ummm Makes Guest Noise Like Coins So On

[shell gull]

Still Think The Theory I Talked About Made Sense

[viscid magnet]

Hello everyone

[pure ivy]

ehhhh

[pure ivy]

yeah but mine has things to back it up so like

[shell gull]

Also Why Did They Use Luck Devices For? POWER Why Would They Want The Guest? POWER.

[pure ivy]

they wanted the luck devices so they could alter their reality and cause a great storm

lmfao

[silver vine]

no

[wicked heath]

what does the guest have to do with power

its literally just a guy

slash bird

[silver vine]

a storm has to happen for them to use the devices

[shell gull]

Oh Yeah That’s True But Who’s To Say They Wouldn’t Want The Guest For Control Over People

[ripe berry]

For all we know in the actual lore he could be a character the Rescue Squad made up for some comics

[silver vine]

and that will make the storm worse

[shell gull]

That Can Manipulate And Enter Peoples Minds!!!

[ripe berry]

But yeah chances are he's just no longer canon

[silver vine]

:(

[ripe berry]

Oh boy, let me get the list!

[shell gull]

That’s True But We See Him In HN2

Also In The Museum File Crap Whatever We See A lot Of Guest Related Stuff

[silver vine]

its not the guest...

its a cultist

forest protector

[ripe berry]

The Guest's many powers include: Teleportation (HN2, GN2), Talking Through Crows(GN2 Intro), Forming from water(GN2), Possession(GN2), in-human leaping(SN), Sensing Fear(SN) and more I probably forgot about (I removed some potentially non-canon ones from the list) Controlling Crows(?) (AS)

[ripe berry]

WHERE

[shell gull]

Bro It’s Got The Hello Guest, Guest Statue Files A.K.A This Thing

[ripe berry]

Where in HN2FG do we see Man in the Hat

[shell gull]

Oh Sorry Thought You Meant The Guest

[ripe berry]

Oh ok

It's not the same statue

[silver vine]

maybe you're this thing is in full game?

[ripe berry]

They reused files bc why not

[shell gull]

Bro They Should Make An Update Where Vandals Walk Around The Town To Make It More Alive

[shell gull]

Ok But Still Top 3 Coolest Theory’s Of All Time Number One Is Mya Being Adopted

[silver vine]

teleportation is in HN2 also

[ripe berry]

The list is from before HN2 came out (but I did remove non-canon stuff so it's not a good excuse-)

there, added it

[silver vine]

you forgor AS

Realtor death

guest is responsible for that 100%

[shell gull]

I Said The Last Part As A Joke But Wait In The Books, Diane Has Brown Hair, Mr. Peterson Has Brown Hair, Aaron Has Brown Hair, But Then Mya?

[silver vine]

Diane and Mya have orange hair in both books and games

[shell gull]

Really? Thought She Had Brown In Books

[silver vine]

nicky states she has light red hair like her mother

light red is prob close to orange

[shell gull]

Oh Ok

Guess Mya Ain’t Adopted

[ripe berry]

But the games say nothing against Aaron being adopted

(Books do but still-)

[shell gull]

Ha

[ripe berry]

Books aren't exactly canon anymore

(Thanks Welcome to Raven Brooks)

[silver vine]

I bet its the guest who caused the death of that Realtor woman

theres literally like no other thing other than him

crows just dont randomly go about killing ppl

[manic dirge]

cuz of trinity

[shell gull]

And A Bunch Of Other Stuff

[manic dirge]

cellphones

[shell gull]

I’m Pretty Sure The Canon Is That Humanity Was Smart Enough To Get Modern Technology In 80s-90s

[lyric zephyr]

I’m just assuming that Aaron got his brown eyes through a recessive gene
Like headcanon is Adelle’s eyes were green and Roger’s were brown

Skipped a generation and the brown eyes went to Aaron

[split cloak]

Hello Neighbor 2 the full game the unrealengine for that is crashing later all the time were can I report thise?

[unkempt sleet]

#1047329742577209354

[subtle turret]

hey someone wanna snown thief event
i made a server
name server snown_thief_event_only

[unkempt sleet]

#secret-neighbor

[shell gull]

Ok That’s A Bit Of Too Much Time In Lore

[tribal talon]

Why did they cut the part where the realtor is pulled up into the truck was it because it was on YouTube?

And they had to have clean material

[wicked heath]

Yes

Yes

[tribal talon]

It’s very gory

why haven’t we met delroy yet in the show?

[dry depot]

Idk he only appears in ep 3

And later

[jaunty mortar]

does anyone know what year nicky moved to raven brooks

[ripe berry]

Not anymore

But (this is prob no longer canon) in Missing Pieces he moves in in 1995

No longer canon since WtRB completely messed up the dates

[jaunty mortar]

ok

[ripe berry]

Along with making the books seemingly completely non-canon

[manic dirge]

is AS even cannon

[ripe berry]

Sadly yes

[manic dirge]

😭

[manic dirge]

they shouldve not had cellphones but instead have a poliroid camera

[manic dirge]

and the intro should be nicky moving in

[ripe berry]

They tried to follow book lore, like, 1 time, and then they just scrapped everything

That's literally what's been said and implied

[manic dirge]

thats stupid as hell

[ripe berry]

They scrapped it because it just "doesn't adapt well to animation"

[manic dirge]

they either coulve had nicky move in the opening scene and have a polroid camera or they couldve ruined the lore by having trinity move in the opening scene and have cellphone

[manic dirge]

they picked option 2 -_-

[manic dirge]

and ruined the whole lore they have been building for YEARS

RIP the hn books 😭

[manic dirge]

yeah and it had lore about nickys parents aswell

[ripe berry]

I swear fricking FNaF lore is easier to understand then the current state of HN Lore

[ripe berry]

But NO it just doesn't work with Animation

[mighty ember]

luck devices weather stations time loops retcon retcon retcon act 3 is canon secret neighbor is the kids imagination secret neighbor is canon it takes place in the 90s it takes place in the 2000s

[shell gull]

Well HN2 Is In 90s I’m Guessing Humanity Was Smart Enough To Create Modern Technology In The 80s To 90s

[shell gull]

Don’t Forget, We Have The Full Timeline Which I’m Glad We Have Cuz It’s A Mixture Of Book Lore, AS Lore, And Game Lore.

[woven flame]

i want to post here my timeline can i?

[calm sentinel]

Are books 4, 5, and 6 still cannon?

[woven flame]

well guys here is my hn timeline (ONLY GAMES I CANT AFFORD THE BOOKS) i know is bad but i theory this lmao

hello guest and hn1 happen at the same time

for me

[manic dirge]

dont bother for the books

they arent cannon no more

[silver vine]

hello guest doesnt happen tho

its not canon

and HN2 takes place before diaries

diaries takes place right after act 3 and finale

HN2 takes place right after act 2

also you missed SN, HE and HNVR

I mean, we still dont know when HE takes place

but SN and HNVR takes place between acts 1 and 2

[ripe berry]

The game timeline is actually: HNHS, HN1 Act 1, SN(It's a playable version of the Rescue Sqaud's Planning phase for getting Nicky out of the Basement), HNVR(Not out yet so you've prob never heard of it but it's the plan from SN put into action), HE(Imma not bother to explain this one you've prob never heard of), HN1 Act 2, HN2, HN1 Act 3/Finale, HND

[silver vine]

how do we know that HE takes place before act 2

[gilded solar]

HE isn't canon

[glacial whale]

Oh but it is

[woven flame]

Dude ok...

[silver vine]

it is

[gilded solar]

then pardon me

[dusk sedge]

how is HE canon

[shell gull]

Takes Place After SN

[shell gull]

Time Loops

Also In The HG Canon Beatrix Is The Canon Person Who Guard The GAAP Not Quentin

[ripe berry]

Actually both do

[shell gull]

Really?

Oh Yeah!!!

[ripe berry]

In Beatrix's Opening Cutscene the Road Closed sign is fallen down

[shell gull]

Cuz Beatrix replaces Quentin

[ripe berry]

Something that only happens in Quentin's Opening Cutscene

[shell gull]

HG Takes Place Sometime GN2 Right Or Prob Not

[ripe berry]

Indicating Quentin has already been here when Beatrix arrives

[ripe berry]

With the little info we have on HG the timeline placement is a little hard to figure out

[shell gull]

True It Can’t Take Place Before HN2

[ripe berry]

HG is most likely (if it's still canon) somewhere between HN2 and Act 3

[shell gull]

Yeah

[ripe berry]

It seems like it's after GN2 however this leaves more questions then answers since we don't know when GN2 happens

HG feels like a continuation of what Quentin was doing in the DLCs, finding places in Raven Brooks that he's heard rumors about and finding a way to get in there to investigate

Finally answering the old question Nikita was teasing us with of "why do you need to guard a old park"

[shell gull]

Here’s My Version Of The Full Timeline GN1, Book 4-6, Then Book 1, Then AS Which Is Between Act 1, Act 2, SN, HE, HNSR, HN2, HG, Time Skip To Act 3, HND, GN2, Book 7.

That’s My Version

[ripe berry]

Quentin decides to take the job to investigate what's going on, Beatrix is implied to be a friend of Quentin so she takes the job to find out what happened to Quentin

[shell gull]

Right

[ripe berry]

(Implied bc Quentin's Journal has a sticker of Beatrix's Van)

[shell gull]

True, So My Question Is If Quentin Is Taking New Jobs And Investigations Then What Happened To Him After He Got Knocked Out In The End Of HN2?

[ripe berry]

We don't know much but he survives somehow

[strange lance]

HE still has the Hn2 missing posters at that time, and Nicky is still missing because he's not in the club, so it's before Hn2

Then they get trapped in the sandbox and we don't know what happens after

[ripe berry]

We also know HE is after SN since in the sandbox you can see inside the van objects that imply the Rescue Squad has already formed

[shell gull]

That Can Explain Why In Reset Day, People Know Of Mr. Petersons Crimes, Cuz During HN2 Only The Cops Know, Possibly Quentin Survived, And News Spread Of Mr. Peterson.

[ripe berry]

I still stick by my timeline theory of (listed in the order they start):
1984 - The Secret of Bosco Bay
Late 2011 - Bad Blood
Summer 2012 - Grave Mistakes, Puzzle Master
Early 2015 - Missing Pieces, Hello Neighbor: Hide and Seek
Early 2016 - Welcome to Raven Brooks Episode 1, 2, and 3
March 2016 - Welcome to Raven Brooks Episode 4, Act 1
Spring 2016 - Rest of Welcome to Raven Brooks, Secret Neighbor, Hello Neighbor: Search and Rescue, and Hello Engineer
May 2016 - Act 2, Hello Neighbor 2
2016-2035 - The Raven Brooks Disaster, Hello Neighbor 2's DLCs (and Hello Guest)
March 2035 - Act 3, Finale, and Diaries
2046 - Reset Day

[ripe berry]

Yeah

+Even tho it's not in HN2 Ted still is meant to have Mya's Grave in his backyard

[shell gull]

Massive Time Skip With Reset Day That Makes Sense Though Cuz If The Kids Got Married In 2022 When There Like 18 Wouldn’t Work

[shell gull]

True

Is The Mill Canon?

[ripe berry]

🤷‍♂️

I'm just going to treat as if it is

[shell gull]

Or You Could Stay With The Old Dates We Can Just Imagine Humanity Was Smart Enough To Have Modern Technology In The 90s

[ripe berry]

I mean they DID say technology works different in the HN universe

However we can't use the old dates

They said HN2 and the AS are taking place "a little bit" after 1997(The date HN1 puts Act 1 in)

[shell gull]

Ah Ok

[ripe berry]

The months I chose are Game-Accurate more-so then Book-Accurate

(For my timeline theory)

[shell gull]

So In AS Nicky Doesn’t Know Aaron And Wants To Prove Ted Is A Killer, In Books Nicky Is Friends With Aaron And Wants To Prove That Ted Is Hiding Something, In Full Timeline Nicky Is Friends With Aaron And Want To Prove Ted Is A Killer.

[ripe berry]

Since the Game yet again have more priority in the canon then the Books

[ripe berry]

Yes

[shell gull]

True

[shell gull]

All Right Then So Basically Each Timeline Is Mixed To Create The Full Timeline Makes Sense Now

[ripe berry]

I assume a change to the timeline to allow this to work is that Nicky sees Mya's death tape from Buried Secrets sometime between Mya's Death and the start of AS

[tribal talon]

wow this strangely kinda fits

makes sense in a matter cause of reset day

[shell gull]

So Then In Full Timeline Aaron Never Knew Trinity When He Moved To Raven Brooks Cuz She Would Move In After He Goes Missing Correct?

[ripe berry]

However Nicky only hears the audio of Aaron calling himself a monster and doesn't see that Aaron's saying it to himself in a mirror and assumes it's Theodore that he's talking to even after a year(in my version of the timeline)

[ripe berry]

Yep

[shell gull]

Okay

[shell gull]

All Right Makes Sense

Gotta Go See Ya

[ripe berry]

You can literally just swap Enzo, Maritza, and Trinity with the other 3 Rescue Squad Members (Ivan, Delroy, and Scout)

and boom, 0 contradictions with currently released AS info

BC it's known Ivan knows Peterson and we don't know if Delroy or Finch(Scout) know Peterson

and it seems Maritza and Enzo don't know Peterson

[shell gull]

I’m Back

So Wait

Does Maritza Still Know Mya Or Not In Full Timeline I’m Guessing Yes But Prob Never Got Pulled Into The Stuff That Happened In Prequels

[ripe berry]

Yes Maritza still knows Mya but never meets Theodore

[shell gull]

Ahh Makes Sense So Still Friends

In Full Timeline

[ripe berry]

They(Maritza and Enzo) still know Aaron and Mya it's just that they've been stated to not know Theodore Peterson

Same with Lucy Yi

[shell gull]

So They We’re Still Helping In Prequels?

[ripe berry]

Yes, just not as big of a role

(Also Enzo and Maritza's mom is now alive-)

[shell gull]

Ik So Dumb But In Full Timeline Is She Still Alive?

[ripe berry]

Possible

[shell gull]

Also I’m Guessing Maritza And Enzo Hanged At Aaron’s Just Never Got To See Ted

[ripe berry]

Depends on if we meet her or she's expanded upon in AS

[shell gull]

Ok

[ripe berry]

If not then we could just say Maritza simply misspoke and that she's still dead

[shell gull]

Kinda Like Nicky In The Books Barely Saw Ted But Saw Aaron, Mya And Diane A lot

[shell gull]

Ok

[ripe berry]

but if that does happen then she's actually alive

[shell gull]

Makes Sense

[ripe berry]

Yeah this could be the case with Enzo and Maritza

[shell gull]

Yeah So The Plot Is Just Fine It’s Just AS and Books Are Different From Each Other

We Have To Mix Them And The Game Plot Aswell To Get Full Timeline

[ripe berry]

Also HG's Mayak design is no longer canon

[ripe berry]

Yeah

[shell gull]

Really? Ok Then Which One Is?

[ripe berry]

Basically they sent for tinyClub people a image of AS Ep. 7 that we already had with the HG Mayak design but with a new Mayak Design

it was allowed to be sent in #1051519521061617774

[shell gull]

Oh I Saw That

[ripe berry]

Yeah it's that one

So that's the new canon design unless they change it again

[shell gull]

Yeah Wonder How Mayak And The Guest Fit In As Cuz Alex Said This

[ripe berry]

HN2 is already preparing to add the Guest

[shell gull]

Wonder How It Will Make Sense?

[ripe berry]

you know the update they dropped a few days ago with the Free Roam Tapes?

[shell gull]

Yeah?

I’m On Xbox Though

[ripe berry]

Those Tapes were meant to play Guest Sounds when put into a unfinished tape recorder object

[ripe berry]

Don't worry I am too

[shell gull]

Oh Shoot

[shell gull]

Yeah Isn’t It Coming Sometime January For Us What Day Of January?

[ripe berry]

It's got textures (referring to the Tape Recorder) but no model so it's clearly unfinished

[shell gull]

Ahh Ok

[ripe berry]

Don't know

We don't have the Roadmap yet

This is why I'm treating the Mill as canon

[shell gull]

Yeah, Will Nice Talking But Gotta Go Bye

[ripe berry]

Oh, ok, bye

[ripe berry]

Because it's the only place other then the GAAP they could put the Guest in

[remote seal]

does anyone have the updated lore doc now hn2 is out

[lyric zephyr]

I can sum it up for you rn
None of the past of HN matters outside of what the Animated Series tells you

And a lil bit of Hide and Seek and SN

[shell gull]

We’re Talking About Full Timeline Since Things Like That Get Mixed To Work In Story

[shell gull]

Oh Wait You Meant Lore Doc Nevermind

[craggy lion]

I have a theory.

What some doors are portals to different dimensions. Let me explain…
At the end at hello neighbor 1(spoilers ahead)

We see the neighbor crying and the shadow thing behind a door and we also see a door that leads to nothing.

And in hello neighbor hide and seek at the start at every level they open a door and they go somewhere new (aka another dimension) thoughts 🤔

[ripe berry]

Here's something I should explain: HN1 Act Finale is not real

It's not a dream but it's not real

and in HNHS the door is used as a creative way to switch to the kids imagination

It's possible to figure out the locations of the Stuffed Animals using the objects that remain constant between the kids imagination and what's shown to be in the actual version of Ted's House

With Stage 1 at least

In fact (This has a white background so I spoiler tagged it) I actually made a map of Toy Placements from the constants (oh and I mentioned the Hint Cutscene too)

(Also I made a guess that the Toy Meat was in the Sink)

[shell gull]

Its Basically Them Imagining Things

[dry depot]

Yea

[tame quartz]

It would be amazing if we could get a flashback of the Golden Apple Incident.

the animated series

what do you guys think Ivan and Mr.Peterson have related?

I'm devoting a lot of time thinking towards that

Ivan has a history of Mr.Peterson

if you watched episode 1

enzo says that ivan met him

im guessing since ivan is an inventor

he knew something about the Golden Apple Incident

and how it happened

yeah because he knew that the roller coaster was going to fail

that's just my theory.

I also wonder if Lucy Yi will still have an impact on Raven Brooks.

in the pilot

the test pilot.

theres a bulletin board with Lucy Yi's picture on it

i think she's also in episode 1's bulletin board.

[shell gull]

Something I Wanna Quickly Rant About Is How Much It Makes Me Mad That People Don’t Read The Books Or The Lore And Just Follow Any Stupid Thing A YouTuber Says

[tame quartz]

I couldn't look closely enough.

[shell gull]

Genuine People Told Me The Neighbors Name Isn’t Theodore And That It’s Mart Cuz Fgteev Said That.

Some Kid Even Said The Neighbor Killed His Kids Cuz A YouTuber Said That Zero Research

[tame quartz]

why do people listen to youtubers bruh.

they make up stuff for clout.

[shell gull]

God It Pains Me To See what People Say When The New Episodes Of AS Come Out

[tame quartz]

Guys, hear me out.

I have a theory on the whole golden apple coin thing

in HN2, we have a dream where the crow in the museum is dropping coins

[shell gull]

Ye

[tame quartz]

and in the animated series

[shell gull]

Yeah?

[tame quartz]

we see a stack of coins in a room

[shell gull]

Ik What Your Gonna Say Already Made A Theory On It

[tame quartz]

the one trinity and nicky broke into

we also see

the realtor drop a coin when she gets

"killed"

we obviously know she's a forest protector.

Each forest protector carries a coin.

Mr.Peterson is targetting all of them

in the teaser images

we see him holding a shovel over Detective Dale's head.

Dale is a forest protector

which supports my theory.

[shell gull]

Basically In The Lore The Coins Represent Good Luck More Coins Better Luck The Cultist Used Them As An Offering To The Guest By Filling Up The Statue

[tame quartz]

yeah true

[shell gull]

That Isn’t Dale That’s Leslie

[tame quartz]

are you sure?

[shell gull]

Yeah

Ik

[tame quartz]

is leslie a fp?

[shell gull]

Not That We Know Of No

[tame quartz]

is the current mayor

Mayor tavish?

[shell gull]

He Was The Replacement Partner For Neilson After Tapps His Old Partner Got Arrested

[tame quartz]

Ah ok

[shell gull]

No Pretty Sure Not

[tame quartz]

i just need more evidence

and then I can make a valid theory

theres just too many different pieces of lore

Too difficult to connect

I just need more context and confirmations

is GN2 even canon anymore?

like is Regina canon

is book 7 canon

cause the protagonists got scrapped

im pretty sure

they just wanted to make more lore on the Guest

wait so

that makes HN1

Non canon?

cause those books are based on HN1

we don't know!!

ok..

No HN1 is based on Nicky

Nicky's memories of Peterson

it's not based on the other kids

[shell gull]

In The Full Timeline Books, AS, And Games Are Canon But You Have To Mix Them To Get The Full Timeline

[tame quartz]

yeah?

act 1 is Nicky trying to free Aaron

act 2 is Nicky escaping

and act 3 is Nicky's nightmare of the Peterson house

like PTSD

[shell gull]

Act 1-2 Are Real Things Happening Act 3 Is Nicky Imagining And Having Self Therapy

[tame quartz]

him and aaron were friends remember

those screams were Aaron's

[shell gull]

Actually He Did

[tame quartz]

this is HN1 not AS!!!!

[shell gull]

Uhhh Sorry But Uh FULL TIMELINE

[tame quartz]

AS is just a mix of HN1 and HN2

[shell gull]

No Not Really

The Canon Is The Full Timeline

[tame quartz]

and SN

what even happens to aaron?

[shell gull]

The Full Timeline Is A Mix Of AS, Books, And Games

[tame quartz]

we know he gets rescued by quentin

but he chose to stay

i wish HN2 would provide answers man

im tired of question

yeah I didn't like that

is the main protagonist Trinity then?

cause these two eps are based on her so far

i'd like there to be POVs of Nicky and Aaron though

and I hope they can sneak peak the Guest.

[shell gull]

Here’s How It Works, In AS, Nicky Doesn’t Know Aaron And Is Trying To Prove Ted Is A Killer, In The Books, Nicky Is Friends With Aaron and Is Trying To Prove Ted Is Hiding Something, In Full Timeline The Canon, Nicky Is Friends With Aaron And Is Trying To Prove Ted Is A Killer.

[tame quartz]

why would they change nicky and aarons friendship?

nicky wouldn't have any interest in peterson then

[lyric zephyr]

Because they don’t care about the books

[shell gull]

In AS They Did They Don’t Know Each Other But In Full Timeline They Do

[lyric zephyr]

They care about stuff super easy to write for

[tame quartz]

in HN2 Nicky is a missing kid

[lyric zephyr]

They don’t need “character backgrounds”, that’s why they removed Trinity’s entire backstory and made her a hip new girl in town

[tame quartz]

which proves that he went missing searching FOR aaron

beta is canon?

[shell gull]

Why’s It So Hard To Explain The Full Timeline

[tame quartz]

Hn2 is just a fast forward of the beta

[lyric zephyr]

As far as we know, the books and previous games are no longer canon thanks to the AS
Hell, HN2 ain’t even canon due to them not getting half the stuff right

[shell gull]

There’s The Full Timeline.

[lyric zephyr]

The Full Timeline isn’t official.

It’s just being put together by a bunch of fans

[tame quartz]

so basically

the guest might not even be Peterson anymore

[lyric zephyr]

He’s definitely not Peterson

[shell gull]

Uh It’s The Canon Idk What Ur Saying

[lyric zephyr]

Canon according to who? Because Alex CEO says the book story isn’t in the Animated Series, and the AS ties directly into HN2

[tame quartz]

canon is official, but the timeline can be changed

bro

you dont have to spoiler tag

its been a year

[lyric zephyr]

everyone knows about GN2 lol

Nah it's fine lol

[tame quartz]

whatever floats your boat

and plus

he possessed him before he killed him

[lyric zephyr]

But the "Full Timeline" doesn't mean crap when it comes to what's being said

[lyric zephyr]

I wish it could work out! but Alex is intentionally trying to kill off the previous lore

[tame quartz]

Did the guest kill Flan?

no

but he still took the form

[lyric zephyr]

No, Flan was just sick

[tame quartz]

of flan

[shell gull]

That’s Why The Full Timeline Exist To Fix It

[tame quartz]

Flan wasn't sick

[lyric zephyr]

The AS is supposed to be fully canon to HN2, it ties DIRECTLY into it
The AS also breaks all the previous canon of the books

[lyric zephyr]

sick or old either one died of natural causes

[shell gull]

@ripe berry Can You Help Explain Full Timeline By Any Chance?

[lyric zephyr]

AS doesn't fit into any timeline, hell it doesn't even fit into HN2, the thing it's supposed to tie directly into

The fanmade "full timeline" to fix it isn't gonna fix the REAL lore, it's just fan fixes

They're still gonna keep pushing ahead with their new lore

[shell gull]

Once Again That’s Why We Have A Full Timeline To Fight Back Any Problems

[tame quartz]

ok guys listen up

all we know for now

is that the AS is between two things:

Forest Protectors, and Aaron.

the AS is only 1 season, correct?

[lyric zephyr]

And it ties directly into the intro of HN2

apparently

[shell gull]

It’s Not Fan Made It Was Worked On And Even Added Onto By TinyBuild People

[lyric zephyr]

That's just what Alex says

[tame quartz]

maritza clearly doesn't know Mya

[lyric zephyr]

Nicky doesn't know Aaron

[tame quartz]

or she would care more

[lyric zephyr]

Trinity has none of her backstory and is new to town, instead of having been friends with Aaron Mya Enzo and Maritza from the beginning

[tame quartz]

wait!

[shell gull]

Full Timeline Incoming

[lyric zephyr]

Best friends pretty much

[tame quartz]

is lucy yi an effect anymore?

[lyric zephyr]

Lucy Yi hasn't been mentioned once so far in the AS, so maybe

[tame quartz]

great

another great plot hole

in the AS

[lyric zephyr]

I'm guessing the Full Timeline is gonna be "Multiple Timelines"

because nothing can really fix the lore they're setting up now

[shell gull]

Nope It’s Linear

[lyric zephyr]

Reason the Golden Apple Amusement Park shut down in the first place

and why the Inventors Club was disbanded due to her death and the closure of the Golden Apple company

[shell gull]

The Full Time Line Is A Mix Of Each Thing Books, AS And Games

Here’s An Example

[lyric zephyr]

everything's non-canon now man, at least to HN2 and the AS

[shell gull]

In As, Nicky Doesn’t Know Aaron And Thinks Ted Is A Killer, In Books Nicky Is Friends With Aaron And Thinks Ted Is Hiding Something, In Full Timeline, Nicky Is Friends With Aaron And Thinks Ted Is A Killer.

No Only A Couple Pieces Of It

[lyric zephyr]

So basically, you're making your own lore by mixing together old and new lore

[shell gull]

Also In Full Timeline Sadly Trinity Is A New Kid

[shell gull]

Ah Ha But It’s Canon

[lyric zephyr]

How is it in any way canon?

[shell gull]

Cuz Of TinyBuild Workers

[lyric zephyr]

You mean the CMs?

The guys who don't work directly on the games or series

[shell gull]

No The People Who Work On The Show And Books Said That They Thought The Full Timeline Worked Really Well And Should Be Kept

[mighty ember]

i think they wrote themselves into a corner and changed petersons mystery to aaron instead of something deeper

[lyric zephyr]

Where did you hear that?

Who sent it to them? where did you hear it from?

Who are the writers?

[shell gull]

The People Who Know Them And Saw The Talks Of Full Timeline And Were Like “Like The Idea Think It Fits And Should Be Kept” And They Agreed Also In QnA They Thought It Works

Ik Makes No Sense But That’s What We Have Now So Yeah Also It Works With EVERYTHING

[lyric zephyr]

Is there any, proof of that? Or did 1 person tell you this

Because this is the first I'm hearing of it

[shell gull]

It Was QnA

[tame quartz]

they might change it so much to the point where

[lyric zephyr]

That doesn't answer anything

[tame quartz]

mya is not dead

smh

read my above message

[shell gull]

Listen If They Agree As Much As The Full Timeline Doesn’t Have Enough Coverage It’s The Best Patch For The Lore

[lyric zephyr]

But where's the proof they agreed? Or that it was someone from tB?

Saying "The QnA" doesn't answer anything

I'm just honestly confused

[shell gull]

Listen I Have No Clips Alright People Saw It Happen I Saw A Bit, It Has Coverage

[tame quartz]

can we just talk about the AS

[shell gull]

Ted Talk Over Back To Lore

[tame quartz]

instead of complaining about the changes

[shell gull]

Thank You

[tame quartz]

why is enzo trailing the taxidermist

alone

[lyric zephyr]

No idea

[shell gull]

Well Prob Got Told Too

[tame quartz]

i'm pretty sure

maritza probably called him out

for being a chicken

and he decided to wing it alone

it just sounds like something maritza would do

yes

and the other image leaks

he's so full of himself

the dialogue he says

"was that I was not scared"

Maybe he did get assigned to stalk Mr.Otto

and he got afraid for a bit

and then Maritza called him out

and this is the opening scene after that argument

I also reckon, the timer in the top of the clip is the episode time.

at 5 minutes, that scene happens

which means the kids had planned this the episode before and this is the opener

So this could be episode 3,5,or 6

cause episode 4 is based on something else

this is just my thoughts

alr

[shell gull]

Also Something I Wanna Say Real Quick Is The Reason We Have A Full Timeline Is To Fix Any Problems In The Lore While Keeping The Lore Stabilised And Still Have Things Like Books, AS, And Games Work Together

[strange flame]

Yeah, good luck with that

[shell gull]

It’s Been Approved In QnA

Gotta Sleep

[silver vine]

Finch?

[wicked heath]

Honestly im not even sure Ivan had a personal reason to avoid the peterson topic after EP2

[ripe berry]

The name's in the credits

[silver vine]

ah

also

what does the words RBFC on Otto's fridge mean?

[shell gull]

Raven Brooks ForeCast

[silver vine]

uh?

other guy told me its fridge company

[shell gull]

Idk

Oh

[silver vine]

whats the deal with the golden apples and golden apple coins now?

they seem to be connected to the cult

but what they do, only AS should tell

[ripe berry]

They straight up are, the Cultist statue in the Museum has a Necklace with Golden Apple Coins on it

[ripe berry]

Yeah, only time will tell what they do

But chances are they're meant to be new-canon's version of Luck Devices

We don't know

Also what is their plan for the role the Guest plays in the HN universe

We know it's big but what could they be planning

But Guest is planned to be added to HN2 and will also be in AS

[unkempt sleet]

Alex said he's gonna be here though

[ripe berry]

Let me get the messages

The Highlighted messages are what I'm talking about here

[ripe berry]

If you look closely, he's replying to a message about the Guest

[unkempt sleet]

Since when did Forest protectors are called "Beak Man"

[shell gull]

I’m Guessing Each One Basically Gives You +1 Luck

[unkempt sleet]

Well he has a beak, Forest protectors doesnt have a "beak"

[ripe berry]

and it's prob a reference to a Question asked awhile back about Guest in AS, in-which he responded "There's a beak"

[ripe berry]

Meaning we never actually see it's entire body in AS, just the beak, hence "Beak Man"

[unkempt sleet]

Also Forest Protectors are not one person
Alex refers to one person in the message

[shell gull]

My Question Is If The Guest Is Gonna Be In AS And HN2 And He’s A Big Part What’s His Deal Gonna Be?, My Guess Is The Cultist Think Of Him As A God.

[ripe berry]

That's what Nightmare #3 is implying

The one with the Crow Statue in the Museum

[shell gull]

And The Achievement You Get Is ANCIENT CURSE

[ripe berry]

(Or at least that's what I think Nightmare #3's implying)

[shell gull]

Wait Wait Wait

Hold Up

[ripe berry]

and what's the only other time in this whole franchise where a curse-like thing is referenced?

[ripe berry]

The Forest Protectors cursing the Peterson family

[shell gull]

Luck Devices Are Cursed Items Time Loops Are Cursed Items, What If The Guest Is The Curse Itself A Curse That Will Forever Be In RB

That’s Why The Guest Targeted Ted

[ripe berry]

Meanwhile the Book 7 Gemstones seem to be the Guest's Weakness

[shell gull]

Wait What Gemstone

Well Yeah But He Switched To Ted

True

[ripe berry]

You know, the ones that let people remember past time loops?

[shell gull]

Ohhhhhh

[ripe berry]

The ones that seem like they're a part of something?

Yeah, the rings

[shell gull]

Yeah Yeah

Also Here’s something I Don’t Get

Ted Wanted To Start Time Loops But If Ted Is Possessed By The Guest Then Why In Book 7 Did Possessed Ted Still Wanna Do Time Loops?

I Think Ik

[silver vine]

so, what about the actual golden apples? there are plenty throught HN2

especially in mayor's house

also, Peterson seems to have plenty of golden apple coins in AS, why does he still have bad luck then?

[ripe berry]

(sorry for the religion references) Perhaps if the Guest is this demonic being the Gemstones/Rings are like what in Christianity the Cross or Holy Water is

[shell gull]

He Lost Them Prob Got Stolen By Cultists

[silver vine]

CEO said that guest will appear in both HN2 and AS at around the same time, and he plays an important role in the HN universe

[ripe berry]

Remember the Peterson Family was cursed

[silver vine]

forest protectors are beak men and women

[ripe berry]

It'd probably take a lot of Luck Devices to remove the curse

[shell gull]

Yeah

[silver vine]

hes not

literally

forest protectors are his enemies

they cursed him and his family with forever bad luck

[shell gull]

So If The Cultists Have A Connection With The Guest What If They Wanted To Take Control Of The Guest

[ripe berry]

+We don't know how much luck these objects give

[silver vine]

even HN2 confirms that with the achievemnt "ancient curse"

[shell gull]

That’s Why He’s Collecting GA Coins To Get Enough To Fix His Bad Luck

[ripe berry]

He could need hundreds, if not thousands of GA Coins/Luck Devices to get rid of the curse

[shell gull]

Got A Question, Is The GA Coins, Going To Be Part Of Full Timeline Or Not? Guessing Yes Cuz Without Them It Won’t Work.

[ripe berry]

Yeah they would be

[shell gull]

Alright Then

[silver vine]

everyone talking about coins when noone talking about the literal golden apples literred everywhere in HN2

[shell gull]

But Are Old Luck Devices Still Canon Prob Not

[silver vine]

prob not

[shell gull]

So Them How Would Puzzle Master Work Then? Did Aaron Try To Get A Bag Of GA Coins?

[silver vine]

doubt it

they're also somehow connected to the cult

[ripe berry]

This gave me flashbacks to when I asked Alexus about a Joke Model he mentioned (Neighbor_Cursed) and this was his response

[silver vine]

also notice that when someone having a coin dies, the coin gets damaged

[shell gull]

Hold On The Old Luck Devices Got Buried Underground There Prob Still Canon But The Cultist Replaced Them With GA Coins

So Since They Didn’t Have luck Devices They Figured To Use A GA Coin Instead

Where

GA Coins Are Like A Budget Penny Luck Device

[ripe berry]

Yeah that could work

[shell gull]

And Luck Device In Prequels Are Like 100 Dollar Budget Luck

[shell gull]

Alright Then Problem Solved

They Prob Didn’t Know How To Make Them So They We’re Like You Know What Just Get A Bunch Of Coins

And Ted Found Out And Was Like: 👀

https://tenor.com/view/money-eyes-sponge-bob-mr-gif-22736465

Ted:

Ima Be Back In Like 40 Minutes

[ripe berry]

I feel like this might actually mean something because no, the curse is not yet lifted, Raven Brooks is still under partial control of the Guest until someone manages to do whatever needs to be done to end the curse

We honestly have no clue

Nope, nothing implying another book other then Reset Day ending on a cliffhanger

All HN2, GN2, and HE have done/are doing for the Books is setting up explanations for the things found within Reset Day

The Weather Station controlling weather, Time Loops, Guest Explanation, Possession, etc.

[urban fulcrum]

i might as well remake the entire story for my mod

[ripe berry]

Nothing about what happens after Reset Day

[shell gull]

Alright I’m back So My Question Now Is Did The Cultists Start The Curse Cuz We Know They’ve Been In Raven Brooks Since The Beginning Just Like The Abandoned Museum?

(By Curse I Mean The Ancient Curse Of The Guest)

[ripe berry]

Perhaps?

We don't really know

[shell gull]

So Wait The Guest Is Only Able To Possess People With Agony Correct?

[wicked heath]

thats fnaf tho... but sorta

[ripe berry]

That's the lead theory (also Freeze we be talking the emotion not a Remnant variant in FNaF-)

[haughty lava]

I have a few questions

[ripe berry]

So Rescue Squad now is the group that saves Nicky and not Aaron

Atleast that's what AlexN is saying Episode 6 of AS will partly contain

[haughty lava]

What

[ripe berry]

This also makes the game timeline HNHS/HND(Memories), HN1 Act 1, SN, HE, HNVR, HN1 Act 2 (what actually happened), HN2, HN1 Act 2 (Gameplay, in a therapy session apparently), HN1 Act 3, HN1 Finale, HND

Why did they do this to us

Also Nicky saves Aaron, FINALLY making Norman Darby in Book 6 makes sense

"The Red Key will set you free when the time comes. Trust Narf"

Yep, that now actually is the case

[shell gull]

1. Scrapped 2. Idk 3. guests In 3-4 Cutscenes 4. Cuz Game Takes Place Right After Act 2 5. Ted Is Not 6. Idk 7. Connected To Mayak 7. To Control The Town And Get Power 8. A Time Loop Caused By Ted/Guest 9. Idk Drama 10. Idk 11. Most Grow Up Some Have Trauma Some Are Missing 11. The Guest Is Real The Thing Is Not The Thing Is Nicky Imagination Of What His Trauma/PTSD Looks Like

I wrote 7 twice idrc

[ripe berry]

Question 2 is Most likely MitH

[haughty lava]

The last part plays in my head on loop

[haughty lava]

Huh? No

[old dagger]

What cutscenes does the guest appear in other than the 1st cutscene?

[shell gull]

The 3rd and the 1st Nightmare cutscenes

[ripe berry]

Guest is planned to be added in a future update

[shell gull]

Hopefully he stalks you at like nighttime

And flashlights come back

And Vandals That Walk Around the town to make it more alive

[haughty lava]

I have a feeling that the guest has something to deal with the trauma of others or at least connected some how but at this point I feel like a insane person

[shell gull]

No The Guest Is A Curse Trauma Is Different

Sure Trauma Can Be Caused By The Guest Like Getting Attacked By Him

But He Isn’t The Symbol Of Trauma

He Is The Entity That’s Cursed In Raven Brooks

[haughty lava]

... what

Oh

What...

[shell gull]

I Mean Poor Regina Was Getting Manipulated By It

[haughty lava]

Oh

...

That's what I needed

[thin wadi]

What if the guest just becomes like the ink demon from BATDR and you had to like hide from him at night, he would just randomly approach you 😏

[haughty lava]

My theory is starting to make more sense

[shell gull]

That’s How He Worked In Hello Guest Kinda

[thin wadi]

ThE gUesT iS huNtInG yOu

[haughty lava]

The emoji is making me oddly uncomfortable

[thin wadi]

?

Why

Smirk emoji as in what I was saying was half joking

[haughty lava]

So it has begun

[ripe berry]

Guest has a major role in the HN Universe apparently

The Curse thing is th lead theory

[thin wadi]

Maybe the guest was summoned after forest protectors used luck devices

Like the guest is an effect of the bad luck the town has

[haughty lava]

I'm really fishing for ideas

[thin wadi]

Interesting

The Thing decides to morph into a demon bird hybrid

[shell gull]

The Thing Is Nicky’s Imagination Of His Trauma, The Guest Is A Curse That Goes After People Who Are Easy To Manipulate, Usually People With Agony, Also You Spelled Nicky’s Name Wrong.

Thing Isn’t Real, Guest Is Real

[silver vine]

you dont know that

[silver vine]

they plan to break in, and then actually break into the house, but he never said that they are going to save him

[shell gull]

It’s True Cuz Of SN, HE, And AS And Alex

[silver vine]

how are we so sure that they are going to save him

we know they break into the house

thats all we know

we dont know if they save him or not

[shell gull]

Oh Wait I Thought You Meant They Weren’t Looking For Him Nevermind

[calm sentinel]

What year does Hello Neighbor 2 take place?

[shell gull]

Right After Act 2

So May 2016

[silver vine]

how do you know the date

[wicked heath]

no Act 2 is not in 2016

[ripe berry]

I actually do know that

[ripe berry]

It's just a guess

[ripe berry]

#hello-neighbor message

AlexN himself stated it

[ripe berry]

He did now

[silver vine]

oh he said that TODAY

thats why I didnt see

[ripe berry]

Yeah lol

He also specified Aaron doesn't save Nicky, Nicky saves Aaron (I couldn't get both on-screen at once so just look at the search area there)

[silver vine]

we'd know in ep 6 if Nicky is Aaron's friend or not...

[ripe berry]

and that the reason it seems that way is due to Nicky's memory getting foggy

Also Mayak's still important

#hello-neighbor message

He even went as far to say it's where the season (and possibly) Series Finale happens

[silver vine]

ye Im seeing his messages

you dont need to send, but ok

[ripe berry]

I know I just am for those who don't want to scroll

[unkempt sleet]

I'm happy that Mayak is still important

İts my favorite location

[ripe berry]

Mayak and Guest are the 2 things from HG that are important to the story

(Because the Golden Apple Amusement Park doesn't seem to be important anymore)

[silver vine]

it never was

it doesnt have any secrets

its just a place which has crowman and eyeball building

both of which are very important to the story

so

Quentin is in the AS

I do wonder what the finale is gonna be tho

like, the kids they all have PTSD

I dont think they can be in the mix

[ripe berry]

I feel like the Finale is gonna be Post-Reset Day

[silver vine]

I think its gonna involve the cultists

like, the first 6 or 10 eps can be totally about Peterson and the rest could be about the town and the cult and the guest and mayak

[dry depot]

That has nothing to do with lore

[dry depot]

Bro go somewhere else wrong chat 😑

[haughty lava]

who cares about his name

[shell gull]

I’m Working On A Really Short Doc On The Full Timeline Thing Some PeopleAnd Me Are Working On Got Any Ideas Let Me Know

[dry depot]

Could you add like graphics/pictures to just explain it better cuz sometimes reading text can be confusing

Especially when your writing a HN timeline

[shell gull]

Got It

[ripe berry]

Yeah

[shell gull]

It’s Not Gonna Be Crazy Detailed With Everything But It’s Generally What We Know On The Full Timeline

For Those Woh Don’t Know The Full Timeline Is

It’s A Mix Of Books, AS, And Games All Together

[ripe berry]

yep

[shell gull]

All Right Here’s What I Have so Far: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1-nvlX7K7ljW_pXHPHPFJZmIX79Gs_Jew2_Z2J2eCzxE/edit

I Only Have The Before Things, Bosco Bay And Bad Blood Currently

[silver vine]

getting to the conspiracy

there are pics of 5 ppl on Peterson's map

Gerda, Otto, Principal, Murtaugh and Alex

we know that Gerda, Otto and Principal are cultists

so, I think its safe to assume that Murtaugh and Alex are cultists too

[shell gull]

Ok then

[wicked heath]

?

[ripe berry]

Alex | CEO is a cultist confirmed

[lapis kestrel]

can anyone tell me if there any way to restart the game ?

[shell gull]

HN2? In The Main Menu Click Setting Then Restart Progress

[lapis kestrel]

thank you

[velvet fossil]

@lyric condor here you will find very nice people who know a lot about lore

[lyric condor]

𝙾𝚔

[manic dirge]

e

[tribal talon]

e

[copper niche]

Is there going to be. Another hello neighbor

This one was fun I finished it like 10 times

[shell gull]

Just Added Grave Mistakes To The Doc Tell Me If I Missed Anything Or Misspelled Things Or Anything That’s Off https://docs.google.com/document/d/1-nvlX7K7ljW_pXHPHPFJZmIX79Gs_Jew2_Z2J2eCzxE/edit

Also Theodore Has Gotten His Birth Date Fixed To Fit In The Current Timeline

[hazy meadow]

In the end of hn2, what happens to the reporter after he gets knocked out and dragged away?

[dry depot]

Wrong chat

[hazy meadow]

This is about the lore

[dry depot]

Yea

[hazy meadow]

My message is asking what happens to him

[dry depot]

Well we aren't sure what happens

Sense there isn't anything telling us what happens

[shell gull]

He Survives We Don’t Know How But He’s The Reason Why People All Over Raven Brooks Know What Ted Did

[dry depot]

Or anything to like foreshadow what happens

[shell gull]

After GN2 He Goes To The School And Library

And Also To The GAAP As Security Guard

[dry depot]

I saw the doc

[hazy meadow]

Ohhhh so the expansion packs are continuations

[dry depot]

You made

[hazy meadow]

Basically

[shell gull]

Nice still working on it

[dry depot]

I'm pretty sure GN1 isn't canon

[dry depot]

nice I liked it it was simple

[shell gull]

No it It’s The Reason Ted Moves to Germany

[dry depot]

Oh ok

[shell gull]

Idk honestly

[dry depot]

I remember someone saying to me that it wasn't canon

So

[shell gull]

Hmm

[dry depot]

Yea

[dry depot]

Like it was long ago

[shell gull]

Here’s What I’m Basing The Doc On

And A But more

Such As The Fact In Bad Blood

[ripe berry]

(Just a theory, not a fact)

[shell gull]

Ivan,Delroy and Finch are replacing trinity

[shell gull]

Ik but I think it works well

Also Now Ted Was Born In 1955 cuz him Being In His 70s during bad blood doesn’t work

[ripe berry]

yeah it does, but still I'm stating it's a theory bc the months/years aren't confirmed

[shell gull]

True

But for Now That’s How It Will Be

Gotta go Got Stuff To Do

[ripe berry]

Alright, cya!

[manic dirge]

please spoiler your messages if they are a ending to hn2

[tame quartz]

i think the only way they can implement the guest in the AS, is if they sort of build up hype to him. Trinity should somehow stumble into the Nest and discover the Guest. It would be amazing if they could tease him in a good way, since the show's main focus right now seems to be around the Forest Protectors and Mr. Peterson hunting them.

Like he could be some sort of final boss or something

after the forest protectors finish praising him or whatever they do.

right now, all we can do is theorize over Ivan and Peterson's connection

since it's the only canon theory

we can make

[shell gull]

You mean Delroy

Delroy is Bagger

[wicked heath]

no he actually means Ivan

[ripe berry]

Bro just because I say Delroy and Finch(Scout) might have connections to Peterson doesn't mean they do

He's wondering about the time(s) Ivan met Peterson that he doesn't want to talk about

Since we don't actually know what had happened

[wicked heath]

honestly from the way he just goes BLABLABLA, I believe Ivan doesnt actually have a personal reason to avoid the peterson topic and hes just scared of the guy (unlike enzo how did)

cus remember: "Enzo is the MVP". Considering he rlly doesnt have any connections to Peterson, i doubt other characters would

[shell gull]

Oh I Thought That Was Delroy? Ivan Is Inventor Right?

[ripe berry]

Yes Ivan's Inventor

[shell gull]

Ohhh Ok I Thought Delroy Was His Name

[ripe berry]

Delroy's Bagger

[shell gull]

Honestly Idk who is who at this point

[ripe berry]

Here's a list of names and who they belong to!:

[shell gull]

Please

[ripe berry]

Ivan - Inventor
Delroy - Bagger
Finch - Scout
Trinity Bales - Leader
Enzo Esposito - Detective
Maritza Esposito - Brave
Theodore Peterson - The Neighbor
Diane Peterson - The Wife
Mya Peterson - The Sister
Aaron Peterson - The Brother
Nicky Roth - HN1 Player Character
The Guest - The Raven Man
Quentin - The HN2 Player Character
Beatrix - The HG Girl
Imbir - The Cat
Keith F. Newsoms Nielsen - The Cop
D. Leslie - The Other skinnier Cop
Gerda - The Baker
Mr. Otto - The Taxidermist
Skipper - The Mayor's Dog
Gunter - The White Dog Janitor has
Clementine - the Smallest Dog Janitor has
Brisket - the Brown Dog Janitor has

(Yes I know you only needed this for the SN kids but I couldn't stop myself from adding the other characters in the games names)

(Except for the ones in HND and Lucy Yi)

[quaint ridge]

Did the show make the books not cannon

Because in the books when Aaron moves in Trinity already lives there but not in show

[shell gull]

Thanks

[shell gull]

Yes It Is True There Non Canon

But Don’t Worry We Have The Full Timeline

[quaint ridge]

I wasted my life 6 times

[shell gull]

Now That I Think About It Finch And Delroy Don’t Make Sense In Full Timeline, 2 Extra People During Prequels Don’t Make Sense, Ima Change It To Make It Make Sense

[shell gull]

I changed it my guess is Aaron and Ivan were very alike as they both liked inventing things that’s why he’s the only one who has met Ted as he frequently went to Aaron’s

[quaint ridge]

K

[shell gull]

Enzo, Maritza And Lucy probably have too, but only once in a while

[quaint ridge]

When’s the next episode of the tv series?

[haughty lava]

Who knows...

[haughty lava]

Yeah probably

[quaint ridge]

sad

So all evidence in books is not cannon to timeline?

[haughty lava]

Probably

[quaint ridge]

So many theory’s down the drain

[haughty lava]

Maybe

Here's a theory I got

[glacial whale]

Just because the AS changed stuff doesn’t mean every book is just not cannon anymore

[haughty lava]

What does AS mean...

[glacial whale]

Animated series

[haughty lava]

WTR

[quaint ridge]

So is the guest cult cannon

[haughty lava]

yes

[glacial whale]

There’s stuff from the books that are cannon but they just changed stuff mostly with the characters that we’ve seen

[quaint ridge]

I’m most questioning the luck device cannon

[haughty lava]

The tv show writers ruined everything

[quaint ridge]

I can’t believe Enzo’s voice

[glacial whale]

Yea I prefer the pilot voice for Enzo

[quaint ridge]

And the characters eyes

[haughty lava]

face

[quaint ridge]

Maritzas eyes look awful

[haughty lava]

😎

Yep

[quaint ridge]

The only part I’m happy about is a creator said Enzo has a great character arch.

Ark

Looking forward for that

[calm sentinel]

Are books 4-6 still canon or is every book no longer canon? I’m asking this because I’m a little confused about the lore.

[lyric zephyr]

Books 4-6 have been messed up by the AS too

Seeing as Enzo and Maritza apparently don’t know who Aaron and Mya are personally

And Trinity isn’t even in town yet thanks to the AS

(She was in town before Aaron was in the books)

So yeah, those too have been extremely messed with

[tribal talon]

now what is THIS (found at the weazel news tower)

[shell gull]

Go In HN Spoilers And Ask There

[hasty tapir]

New update added cassete tapes around the map

[silver vine]

also it seems the cult hasnt been exposed yet

[lyric zephyr]

True

[unkempt sleet]

Aaron might know about the cult too

[silver vine]

he should

[unkempt sleet]

AS problems

[silver vine]

if he doesnt even know about his family, its kinda messed up

the cult CURSED his family

they cursed his family with forever bad luck

[silver vine]

thats why bad things always happen to him and his family

HN2 does

and AS is connected to HN2

AS is connected to HN2

HN2 has the achievemnt "ancient curse"

[silver vine]

referring to the curse of the Peterson family

[lyric zephyr]

Weird that they’d call it ancient curse if the bad luck curse only started like 40 years ago w Roger and Adelle

[silver vine]

40 years is ancient

[unkempt sleet]

I mean, isnt 40 years ago is kinda ancient?

[silver vine]

why do you desparately want the family to not be cursed

bad things always happen to them, its kinda understood that the family is cursed with bad luck

also I dont think that they'd retcon the fact the family is cursed

[unkempt sleet]

Even in the AS the car crash still happens, which was probably a result of the curse

[silver vine]

in the members AS BTS video they mentioned about luck a lot of times, and that we'd find out soon that why the family always has bad luck

and we did

which means the cursing of the family is part of the games lore too

we'll see

[unkempt sleet]

What?

I know, but i dont understand why you think the overdose of GA coins are the source of the curse

oh

Well, we cant know for sure. At least for now. We'll probably learn about this in the future episodes of AS

[silver vine]

they're also in SN

literred around the house

[shell gull]

Don’t Forget We Have A Full Timeline For A Reason

[sweet fractal]

funny how you can beat the game without being in the #3 card areas and #4 card areas

[unkempt sleet]

Ah yeah thats definitely lore

[willow gale]

if hn2 is after act 2 then what happened to Nicky Roth's house, It's still in act3?

[hazy slate]

a construction company called EGS destroyed it with a bulldozer and then built an ugly background house in it's place

[untold folio]

is mr peterson the guest?

[viscid portal]

Yes

[untold folio]

ahh alright thanks, just wasnt sure

[lyric zephyr]

He's not, but he is used by the Guest at least

[ripe berry]

🧌

[shell gull]

No, He’s Possessed By The Guest He Isn’t The Guest Itself

[wicked heath]

well technically speaking: yes Mr Peterson is the guest

[mint stump]

was this lore related ? beacuse i saw it game and also got a reminder of it on HN chat .. ?

[ripe berry]

It is lore related

Meet the "Forest Protector" Cult

[flint violet]

Isn't there a forest protector mask on one of the tables in the museum

[wicked heath]

the RAVENS!!

[untold folio]

ohh i see thanks for clarifying

[shell gull]

After The 2nd Graphic Novel Which Is Some Years After HN2

[shell gull]

Isn’t The Picture Taken In The Tunnels

[silver vine]

yes

which means the tunnels are still canon

the question is whether its collapsed or still there

[flint reef]

i dont really know much about the lore but it doesnt really make sense for him to be the guest since their proportions are like very different

[silver vine]

can we make a list of all the missing ppl in the town

[ripe berry]

Nicky Roth, Mya Peterson, Aaron Peterson, The 3 Trick or Treaters, Missing Journalist

Those were the ones I could think of on the top of my head

[silver vine]

you forgot one

the MOST important one

[ripe berry]

Theodore Peterson?, Farmer?

[silver vine]

Peterson

Theodore Peterson

the bogey man

who kidnaps children

hes missing

hes in the haunted museum

[glacial whale]

Teodor Mathers Peteson

[rigid raven]

I don't know how to use the "spoiler" function, but I will say there are at least two more important missing characters in Reset Day

[ripe berry]

Put two | on either side of a text you want to put a spoiler on

[shell gull]

In Reset Day, ||Enzo And Pipers Mom Are Missing.||

[frosty wedge]

Wait what do the Roth family know about the weather device thingy

Because apparently Norman did tell something to a guy named Roth

Unless it's just some other guy named Roth

[lyric zephyr]

The Roth family knows 0 about the weather device

They weren't in town for that

They wouldn't move to town until after the Aaron trilogy

[silver vine]

this is false

in book 6 Norman Darby legit said that he imparted his knowledge to a guy named Roth who worked for the news

its not like

Darby worked in RB his entire life

[lyric zephyr]

A guy named Roth, or a guy named Jay Roth
Because, the Roth Family wouldn't have been moved into Raven Brooks at that point?

Wait misread what you said did you mean “it’s not like Darby worked in RB his entire life”

[silver vine]

yes

[lyric zephyr]

Ah alright

So then, how does that fit into the overall lore? The Nicky Trilogy never mentioned a weather device and only mentioned the weather station I think once in Book 3

Man HN lore is weird

[silver vine]

Nicky trilogy doesnt even mention the forest protectors

not even in the newspaper clippings

[lyric zephyr]

Yeah

Tbh, I kinda miss Pre-Town Cult HN
Things were a lil simpler

[silver vine]

I like the cult storyline

it has lot of potentiel

[lyric zephyr]

Now it feels like they’re jackhammering in the cult into everything. Every resident in HN2 is a cult member, the entire Museum is no longer about history it’s all cult stuff,

Massive Cult Member statue built across 3 stories of building just because

[silver vine]

I can see that someone wanted to expose the cult, so they made a museum about it, but it got closed cuz the cultists found out

[lyric zephyr]

Why would someone make an entire museum to expose a cult instead of exposing the cult regularly

[silver vine]

if they just said "hey theres this secret cult in the town" would they believe him