lore-discussion

[shell gull]

God Dang It

[lyric zephyr]

I’m sure they’re not gonna get rid of the brand new story they worked sooooo hard on…

[ripe berry]

They already said it's canon to Acts 1/2 and SN

[lyric zephyr]

They said it’s supposed to connect those events but
Anyone with half a brain can guess how they can connect

[shell gull]

I’m Dying Inside Why They Do This

[ripe berry]

Basically making it canon to all the games

[lyric zephyr]

While also decanonizing those same games

[ripe berry]

Yep

[shell gull]

Now The Story Feels Dumb To Me

[ripe berry]

AlexN said everything is canon so I got no fricking clue anymore

[lyric zephyr]

I think that was part of a joke

[ripe berry]

I know

[lyric zephyr]

“Everything is canon we’re all gonna die” or whatever

[shell gull]

The Idea Was Nicky Trying To Find Out What Happened To His BestFriend Aaron

[ripe berry]

Just referencing it

[shell gull]

NOW

It’s Just

[lyric zephyr]

Now it’s Nicky breaking in to try and prove a theory about people he doesn’t even know

[ripe berry]

Now Nicky is trying to prove Ted's a murderer because why the frick not

He doesn't even seem to really know the Petersons

[shell gull]

Exactly

[ripe berry]

He doesn't say "Aaron" or "Mya" ONCE

[lyric zephyr]

Nobody in the friend group even know the Peterson family outside of saying Peterson is evil

[shell gull]

But Did They Say Nicky Doesn’t Know Aaron Or Mya

[lyric zephyr]

Nobody says Aaron or Mya in the series

[lyric zephyr]

It’s implied. He thinks they’re dead, and he doesn’t name them once

And he seems to care more about breaking in than actually saving anyone

[shell gull]

Well There’s Still Hope What If They Make A Episode Where They Question Nicky Why He Cares So Much Then He Tells Them He’s Doing It Cuz Aaron Was His Friend

[lyric zephyr]

But the thing is he doesn’t care. He doesn’t even want to break in to save anyone

[shell gull]

That’s True

[ripe berry]

Nicky is going missing in Episode 4 so they have to hurry up

[lyric zephyr]

He wants to break in so he can have the satisfaction of being right on his theory of Ted being a murderer

[ripe berry]

From all statements this is the only episode this could happen

[shell gull]

So They Just Made Nicky A Sore Loser

I Can’t Handle This, Why TinyBuild You Ruin The Best Character

[lyric zephyr]

Because they ruin everything HN they touch

[shell gull]

True

But AS Isn’t Canon To The Full Timeline As That’s Different

[ripe berry]

You Fool!

[shell gull]

Some Things I’m Guessing Would Be But Not All

[shell gull]

Huh

[ripe berry]

AS IS Canon to the Full Timeline

[sand loom]

Guys I have a lore question.

Why did they have to make the last 2 acts of the game a dream?

[ripe berry]

HN1?

[sand loom]

Yes.

[lyric zephyr]

AS is the full timeline now

[shell gull]

Cuz That’s When Nicky Moves In And Falls Asleep And Gets Over PTSD

[sand loom]

Ohh ok

Also, is there a HN2 Speedrun chat?

[lyric zephyr]

Nothing else matters! Watch our cartoon!

[ripe berry]

Everything else is no longer fully canon (Except Hello Neighbor 2)

[shell gull]

Not Really The Books Are Still In It I’m Guessing It’s Mixed Between Game, AS And Mostly Books

[lyric zephyr]

Even HN2 isn’t fully canon to the AS

Since it’s set in 1996 and has different house layouts

[shell gull]

Exactly

I’m Guessing Nicky Is Still Friends With Aaron, Aaron Goes Missing

Trinity Moves In

Gets Pulled Into It

Nicky Goes Missing

Rescue Squad Tries To Save Nicky

Here Making It Simpler

[lyric zephyr]

Tbh, I’m going with Nicky isnt friends with Aaron at all. He doesn’t even know the kids, just thinks they’re dead.
If anyone Ivan was probably friends with them, since he’s supposed to have a “secret connection” to the Petersons

[shell gull]

Still That Wouldn’t Work Cuz HN1 Act 3,4 Are Canon So

[ripe berry]

That makes him panic when Peterson's mentioned

They never said Acts 3 and Finale are canon still, only Acts 1 and 2

[lyric zephyr]

Nope. It would work bc Nicky would meet Aaron in the basement

[shell gull]

Ok Then I Guess Nicky Is Some Random Kid Who’s Committing Breaking And Entering

Still Though

Book 1 Still Canon In Full Timeline

[lyric zephyr]

Nope

AS retcons that too

[ripe berry]

They never said Hello Neighbor: Diaries was going to use the same clips it currently does when it comes out for real

[lyric zephyr]

It retcons every. Single. Thing.

[ripe berry]

For all we know it could just use 3D versions of AS Clips when it comes out

[lyric zephyr]

Imagine it straight up just plays clips from the AS

[shell gull]

I Refuse To Believe Nicky Isn’t Friends With Aaron I REFUSE

[lyric zephyr]

Not 3D not drawn

[ripe berry]

Also even if Act 3 and Finale are still canon Nicky would meet Aaron within the Basement

Nicky may not be friends with Aaron at the time of what we have in AS

But after ending up in the Basement they could become friends

[shell gull]

Ok But I Don’t Think Meeting Some Guy In A Underground Theme Park Koo-Koo Land Would Be Someone To Be Friends With

[ripe berry]

Who said it's still a Underground Theme Park

[shell gull]

God Dang It WHY

[ripe berry]

That detail is only in the Non-canon Books

[shell gull]

Don’t You Dare Say Non-Canon Say Semi-Canon

[ripe berry]

There's no such thing as Semi-Canon anymore for those

[shell gull]

God Nothing Is Canon!!!!!

[ripe berry]

Semi-Canon is what the Games are

Books are clearly less canon then the games

The only thing less canon then Semi-Canon is Non-canon

[shell gull]

I Bet The Peterson Isn’t His Canon Last Name Anymore

The Only Canon Person At This Point Is Probably Harold Our Savior

[ripe berry]

Harold is only in the Non-canon books

Therefore he's non-canon

[shell gull]

NOO

Not Harold He Was The Only Good Character

[ripe berry]

If a Good Character is canon then they'll change them to make them a Bad Character

[shell gull]

Uh Oh Imagine Harold’s The Guest

[ripe berry]

Or they'll die within the Episode they're introduced back into the Canon

[lyric zephyr]

Don’t forget in HN2 that there IS no basement labyrinth
It’s 1 singular room

[ripe berry]

OR BOTH

[shell gull]

God

[lyric zephyr]

Don’t forget how Enzo and Maritza’s mom is still alive for some reason

[shell gull]

What?

[lyric zephyr]

Yep

[ripe berry]

It's a throwaway line in Episode 2

[lyric zephyr]

Mrs Esposito is alive

[shell gull]

I’m Done Series Makes Makes Zero Sense Anymore

Let Me Guess The Series Is Non-Canon

[lyric zephyr]

The AS is the hip new canon

[ripe berry]

No the Books are Non-Canon

Series is Canon

[lyric zephyr]

AS is replacing all the canon with its own

[ripe berry]

That's just how it is now

[shell gull]

Well Guess Ima Be That One Guy Who Hates The Canon And Only Likes The Non Canon

[lyric zephyr]

Just like the rest of us

[ripe berry]

Yep

Welcome to the Club

[shell gull]

I Don’t Get How The Books Couldn’t Fit In Animation It Totally Could

[lyric zephyr]

Oh it DEFINITELY could

They just didn’t want to try

They gotta have it be modern so it’s easy to write for

And trendy

[ripe berry]

AS Pilot is probably their only attempt to make it fit in Animation

[lyric zephyr]

But even then they broke that canon too

[ripe berry]

After people hated on that they chose to scrap everything to make this new canon

Literally just because they got a little bit of hate they chose to scrap the Book Story

[shell gull]

Well, The Non-Canon Can Still Fit Into The Full Timeline No Worries

[ripe berry]

Like bro

Just make the AS follow a different set of characters

[lyric zephyr]

Or make it noncanon

Be it’s own universe

[ripe berry]

And have it be sometime after Act 2 and before GN2

[ripe berry]

At least say Mayak is why this is the way it is

[lyric zephyr]

Heck have it set before during and after Act 1 and have it as just people around town

New events and game events from a different perspective

Like each episode could be a different resident of Raven Brooks

[ripe berry]

Kinda like they were planning

[shell gull]

Like Marvels What If

[ripe berry]

But with Time Periods instead of just Characters

[shell gull]

Exactly

[lyric zephyr]

The Cops going through their Nog Simming story, Quentin’s first day in town, A group of 3 costumed kids exploring the forest on Halloween

Perfect for episodic stuff

[shell gull]

I’m Gonna Believe In The new Theory Timeline Of AS, Games, And Mostly Books Are Mixed Into A Conduct Timeline From Now On

[ripe berry]

Yeah they had the perfect chance to make new stories from pre-existing lore

[lyric zephyr]

But now they gotta make new lore

[shell gull]

Ima Be Back In A Bit

[shell gull]

I’m Back

If The Halloween Kids Are Canon And They Went Missing Why Are There Costumes In The Museum

?

My Guess Is If The Theory Of Each Golden Apple Coin Possesses A Soul Then They We’re Prob Murdered

[dry depot]

First that is not true

Cause the museum is a public place

So ppl would just walk in and see dead ppl I don't think that would be good for business

2nd in the game although the museum is closed that's only due to the fact that they lost the museum key

Other wise the museum is open

So I don't think ppl are comfortable with dead ppl in the museum

[shell gull]

It’s Abandoned And Was Turned Into A Forest Protector Hideout

[dry depot]

No

[ripe berry]

My Current Timeline Theory accounting for AS (and yes I'm putting Books 4-6 + 1 in there but only because they can be edited to work with WtRB):
1984 - Bosco Bay
Late 2011 - Bad Blood
Summer 2012 - Grave Mistakes, Puzzle Master
Early 2015 - Missing Pieces, Hello Neighbor: Hide and Seek
Early 2016 - Welcome to Raven Brooks Episode 1, 2, and 3
March 2016 - Welcome to Raven Brooks Episode 4, Act 1
Spring 2016 - Rest of Welcome to Raven Brooks, Secret Neighbor, Hello Neighbor: Search and Rescue, Hello Engineer
May 2016 - Act 2, Hello Neighbor 2
2016-2035 - Raven Brooks Disaster
March 2035 - Act 3, Finale, and Diaries
2046 - Reset Day

[ripe berry]

💀

[dry depot]

That isn't true

Cause mr. Peterson is there

[ripe berry]

It never was a Forest Protector Hideout

[dry depot]

And he isn't a forest protector

[shell gull]

Forgot To Put The Theory Is:

[dry depot]

So

That's no true

[shell gull]

It’s Abandoned

But

[dry depot]

No I was talking about Mr. Peterson when I said that

[shell gull]

There’s A Theory It’s A Forest Protector Hideout Since That’s Where The Guest Was Summoned and Why’s There A Bunch Of Forest Protector Cult Items There Also Mr. Peterson Is Forest Protector Maybe?

He Helped Hide The Stolen Keys

For The NPCs Around Town Who Are Forest Protector

[dry depot]

Yea

But no

[shell gull]

The Theory Goes Like This

Basically

[dry depot]

Because the forest protectors are the ones who made his life miserable

They gave him bad luck

[shell gull]

Those Were The Book 4-6 Forest Protectors This Though Is A New Group With New Goals

Here’s The Theory

In AS

[dry depot]

Yes but here's the point

[ripe berry]

No? (referring to "With New Goals")

[dry depot]

He won't help them

Just because they have new goals

Won't change his mind

[shell gull]

Like I Said It’s A Theory

[ripe berry]

Besides if they(The Forest Protectors) knew anything they'd know Peterson historically has bad luck

and that it might affect them

[dry depot]

Yea

[shell gull]

Ik That But, This New Group Doesn’t Care About Luck Devices.

[ripe berry]

It's why accidents happen at all of his parks

[dry depot]

Yea

Exactly

[ripe berry]

It's (most likely) why his Wife died

[dry depot]

Yea

[shell gull]

There’s A Theory That This New Group We’re Trying To Summon The Guest.

[dry depot]

You made that theory

[shell gull]

Actually No.

[ripe berry]

Also if Ted and the Forest Protector Cop(Keith Nielsen) were working together why would Ted need to hide in the Museum

[shell gull]

Protect Aaron?

[ripe berry]

The heck does Aaron have to do with that?

[shell gull]

What I’m Trying To Say Is Not That Ted Is Forest Protector But, He Had To Do With The Guest Being Summoned

He’s Collecting Golden Apple Coins In AS

The Statue Is Filled With Golden Apple Coins

At The Museum

[ripe berry]

Guest, technically speaking, has existed since at the earliest Secret Neighbor (because how else would the kids imagine it)

[ripe berry]

and those are most likely some disguised version of a Luck Device

[shell gull]

The Forest Protectors Big Secret Is The Guest That Was Explained In HN2

Cuz The Forest Protector Rituals All Other The Place Around The Statue

The Statue May Be Some Sort Of Prototype Guest That’s Atleast My GUEST

Hahahah Pun Funny

[ripe berry]

At the very least I feel like the Gold Coins are physical forms of the "Good Luck" the Forest Protectors get from the Luck Devices

[shell gull]

That’s What I’m Saying Teds Collecting Them To Build His Luck Back He Filled Them Up In The Statue

[ripe berry]

To get them Ted has to let someone die/kill someone

Ted's killing Forest Protectors

[shell gull]

Then Something Went Wrong That The Forest Protectors Did And They Summoned The Guest That’s Why They Stole The Keys So No One Finds Out.

[ripe berry]

There's no way they'd work together

He Wouldn't put them in the Statue

That's just wasting his little Luck he has for (to him) no reason

[shell gull]

Yeah, Exactly They Summoned It It Ran Away And Too Make Sure No One Found Out About The Guest They Stole The Keys And Locked The Place Up.

[ripe berry]

H U H

[shell gull]

Finally Someone Understands

The Theory

[ripe berry]

Where was Mr.Peterson when it got locked up

BC I don't think he'd let Forest Protectors do rituals when he's there

[shell gull]

Well No Only The Rooms With Evidence We’re

[shell gull]

Also This Was After Act 1

Early SN

[ripe berry]

Ted would need to already be in the building for them to lock up the "rooms with evidence"

[shell gull]

He Isn’t He Knew That’s The Only Place Cops Wouldn’t Search So He Ran Their

[ripe berry]

Because in your theory the Crow Statue IS Evidence

[shell gull]

Technically

[ripe berry]

and to lock that room they'd need to have locked up the entire building

[shell gull]

Also It Isn’t Mine Couple Guys I know Came Up With It

[ripe berry]

and for Ted to be in there after it was locked up he'd need to be in there when it was locked up since there's no signs of breaking through a window as far as I remember

Imma make sure just in case

[shell gull]

No He Did That’s How He Knew About The Museum

[ripe berry]

But I don't remember any

[shell gull]

No I’m Saying Only The Evidence Rooms We’re Anything Like The Locked Up Door Weren’t

[ripe berry]

Since that would be the only way he'd be able to enter after it got locked up

[ripe berry]

?

[shell gull]

Oh Yeah That’s True Hold On

[ripe berry]

Again I'm saying the Main Room would count as a evidence room

So it'd also be locked up

[shell gull]

What About The Door On The Roof

[ripe berry]

[shell gull]

I don’t Know How To Describe It’s White It’s Square

You Open You Drop Down

[ripe berry]

Can you send a picture

[shell gull]

Here I’ll Load On HN2 Rn

[ripe berry]

I'm going to double check for evidence of Ted breaking a Window you find this door you mentioned

[shell gull]

It’s Like That

[ripe berry]

Because I may have missed a minor detail but I don't remember this door existing

[shell gull]

Here I’m On Xbox It’s Gonna Take A Bit

It Not Pn The Roof It’s On Second Floor Balcony

[ripe berry]

I was going to check for Unexplained Broken Glass on the Floor or smth like that

[shell gull]

Loading Into My Save

Yeah I Might It’s Easier On Foot Though

Here Going To Museum

HERE it is

Sorry About Shaking On Camera By The Way

Yeah Ik I Meant Second Floor

And Plus If Quentin Can Mantle I Think Mr. Peterson Can

Exactly

Ik

Same well Gotta Go See Ya

[ripe berry]

Pretty sure that room is in a spot where Ted wouldn't be able to get in still

It look to be above the map room

(Yes that's what I'm calling it)

The Map Room has no way without access to the rest of the Museum to get to any other room

At least not logically with how the other rooms are set up

Into the Garage? Only possible with outside help (which Ted wouldn't have)

Into the Main Room from the Room with the Forest Protector Painting?

The Side the Board's on makes this impossible

[shell gull]

I’m Back What Makes What Impossible

[ripe berry]

Yep

The Boards and Stuff make it impossible for Ted to get into the Main Room from the Trapdoor

[shell gull]

Here Ima Hop Back On And Check

[ripe berry]

Or the way the boards are set up

Even if The puzzle was set up after the fact it would still be impossible BC of the Boards and how the Garage Vent works

[shell gull]

Me Too

Here’s The Problem

Only The Areas Where You Need A Key Were Pre Put There Everything Else Was Ted

So He Can Still Get To The Main Room Through The Garage He Just Put Up Boards To Make Sure Also I Forgot To Mention Ted Got In There Through The Garage Probably

He Probably Just Slid It Up The Garage Door And Parked His Car Then Boarded Up The Garage

Basically

Also Rooms Like This We’re Used For Rituals:

Don’t Think So

[ripe berry]

They do have lore but it's mostly self contained

[shell gull]

Oh Which DLC Was The Best Prob For Me Was Late Fees

Idk Didn’t Focus On DLCs

Yeah

[ripe berry]

Only in Back To School since we got the most info for it

So the Janitor is a old Principal of the Raven Brooks Middle School

Kids went missing and since no one could get proof for what happened eventually the School got shut down

Yep

[ripe berry]

It's implied the kids that went missing are the Alpha 1.5 Kids

Yeah

[shell gull]

Talking About Them There Costumes Are In The Museum?

[ripe berry]

Meaning BtS happens years after AS, Acts 1/2, SN, HE, HNVR, and HN2 Base Game

[shell gull]

So Was Quentin The One Going There Or?

[ripe berry]

They have probably went missing recently at the time the game happens

[ripe berry]

Since the Principal in AS is not the Janitor and they Costumes are recreated and put up for display in the Museum

[shell gull]

To The School Cuz He Got Knocked Out In HN2

[shell gull]

Missing JOURNALIST!!!!

He Must Have Went There If It’s Implied That The Person Who Went And Investigated The School Went Missing Must’ve Been Him

Yeah But Quentin Wasn’t The Actual Person Who Went Their In The Canon

Right Or Am I Wrong?

[halcyon cliff]

Knock knock

[shell gull]

Whose There

[halcyon cliff]

Peter

[shell gull]

Peter Who

[halcyon cliff]

Peterphile

[shell gull]

Huh?

[halcyon cliff]

Shout it out loud

[shell gull]

I Don’t Wanna

[ripe berry]

Late Fees only gives hints at a story since we don't got the intended ending

But there's the Unknown Heart in the Restricted Section

[shell gull]

Cuz He Went Missing After HN2 Right

[ripe berry]

Implications of it be a family buisness

and that's about it

[halcyon cliff]

Cool peterphile

[shell gull]

And He Appears Back In Town To Solve Another Mystery Doesn’t Make Sense?

[halcyon cliff]

I think Mr Peterson is a peterphile

OMG

Figure it out

[shell gull]

Ahhh I Get It Now Reference To If Hello Neighbor Was Realistic

[halcyon cliff]

Yeah

That’s the mystery if real life

[shell gull]

No Don’t Search That

Just Search On YouTube Hello Neighbor Realistic

[halcyon cliff]

Seen

It

[shell gull]

Please Don’t Tell Me You Searched Up Peterphile

[halcyon cliff]

It so funny what he is buzzlightyear

[shell gull]

Search Up Hello Neighbor If It Was Realistic And Watch That

[ripe berry]

(Just know the deleted message this is in reply to is talking about where Guest Kid is in HN2 FG)

[shell gull]

Gotta Go For A Bit

[ripe berry]

see ya both

[halcyon cliff]

Lore

P

So when the neighbour dies the guy who hits qeintin in the back of his head who is he

[ripe berry]

We don't know

It's one of the few things we don't know

[halcyon cliff]

Ok

[ripe berry]

Along with who takes Quentin back to the Banner

[ripe berry]

The Fates of the "Alpha 1.5 kids"

[halcyon cliff]

Oh no he is back

The guy from toy story

Potato a man

[shut hill]

Wasn’t it the guest?

[ripe berry]

Inserts Hello Neighbor Lore Explanation here

[halcyon cliff]

How does the DLC connect with the story

Ok

[ripe berry]

So basically there is a Book, Hello Neighbor Graphic Novel 2: The Raven Brooks Disaster in which the Neighbor, who's name is actually Theodore Masters Peterson, is shown alive

[halcyon cliff]

I will listen it midnight here I. Uk

Oh thanks

The librarian is strange

Though

[shut hill]

No

[halcyon cliff]

Yeah

Yeah

[shut hill]

Idk he just was still under bird, because we don’t see what happens next

[ripe berry]

Just going to send My Current Timeline Theory accounting for AS(Welcome to Raven Brooks/WtRB) again (and yes I'm putting Books 4-6 + 1 in there but only because they can be edited to work with WtRB):
1984 - The Secret of Bosco Bay
Late 2011 - Bad Blood
Summer 2012 - Grave Mistakes, Puzzle Master
Early 2015 - Missing Pieces, Hello Neighbor: Hide and Seek
Early 2016 - Welcome to Raven Brooks Episode 1, 2, and 3
March 2016 - Welcome to Raven Brooks Episode 4, Act 1
Spring 2016 - Rest of Welcome to Raven Brooks, Secret Neighbor, Hello Neighbor: Search and Rescue, and Hello Engineer
May 2016 - Act 2, Hello Neighbor 2
2016-2035 - The Raven Brooks Disaster and Hello Neighbor 2's DLCs
March 2035 - Act 3, Finale, and Diaries
2046 - Reset Day

[shut hill]

Ok nvm

[ripe berry]

I don't really know

[halcyon cliff]

Same

https://tenor.com/view/yoda-sad-upset-tired-star-wars-gif-15907225

Is it?

Merry Christmas

Yeah me know soz

[ripe berry]

Depends on if Missing Pieces is still (somewhat) canon

[halcyon cliff]

https://tenor.com/view/christmas-tree-sparkle-star-gif-24275776

I don’t know either

I am being useless

[ripe berry]

Let me get something that'll help catch you up to speed on the pre-Welcome to Raven Brooks version of the lore

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1AcAI9lMucsQW_4F-20n6OdBkCnRdKZ0Ku4qTB6kpi20/edit

HN2 is still using Beta Lore here and HE isn't included but still for the most part it works

I know but at the very least it'll give him a better idea of some details

(I.E the Cultists/Forest Protectors)

and more, just mentioning them first

Of it does have HE in it

I just put really put the old Google Doc there so he has a better understanding of what we're talking about

Yeah

(Also I didn't make the Google Doc, GavinWK (who you probably have little to no clue who he is) did)

[halcyon cliff]

Thank you Festive Aiden I read the whole thing I understand

Yeah

Nicky has had a tough time from trauma to a long nightmare was act 3

K yeah

Yeah

[shell gull]

It Takes Place After HN1 Where Nicky Tries To Remember What Happened When He Was A Kid To Understand Where His Trauma Came From

Eventually He Remembers Everything And Now Understand Why He Had PTSD

[dry depot]

You sure

[shell gull]

Positive

Everyone Knows That It Ties In With The Books But, Game Isn’t Fully Out So Might Be Changed

[raven kiln]

This is great, you did an amazing job

[ripe berry]

.

[dry depot]

Are you sure it takes place after act 1

[shell gull]

NOO After Act 4 When Nicky Wakes Up It’s When He Finishes Unpacking Everything

[dry depot]

Yea there you go

[shell gull]

Don’t Know Pretty Sure It Is

[dry depot]

Yea

[manic dirge]

bro what?

[manic dirge]

if the lore is like this then this changes everything

[crude dew]

2046?? 😳 Neighbor dies twice until 2046

[sage haven]

lol

[ripe berry]

(The "Spring 2016" is for where I don't know if it happens in March, April, or May yet)

(it'll exist even after I nail down months for the rest of the stuff in that listing bc I just listed "rest of Welcome to Raven Brooks" there)

[ripe berry]

and Secret Neighbor, due to being a imaginary plan, is also going to last until they actually do the plan(HNVR/SR)

[cosmic vine]

there should be a real gun in hn to kill mrpeaterson once so he will never return am i right

[halcyon cliff]

Yeah

[ripe berry]

Entire HN Lore summarized new:
Alpha Lore: So u in coma
Beta Lore: So you are the son of someone, you have a dream of that person, you go visit their grave at the end
Full Game lore: You are trying to save your friend, named Aaron, and end up having life-long trauma
Books 1-3 Lore: Basically the person whose son you tried to save in-game is a theme park designer and you now have 3 friends
SN Lore: 6 people try to save your player character from HN1
Books 4-6 Lore: You, Aaron Peterson, with the help of a couple friends and family members, nearly destroy a entire secret society that gives the whole town bad luck
GN1 Lore: ...
GN2 Lore: Theme Park Designer uses father's weather machine to cause a flood, and fights with a birb man before becoming the birb man
HE Lore: read message below
Book 7 Lore: TIME LOOPS
HN2 Lore: You Journalist that break into Homes on 3 streets to try to save Aaron
HND lore: A CUP OF COCOA WI-
WtRB lore: Everything isn't canon!

[shell gull]

Wasn’t Their Also Lore To Hello Guest I Never Knew What It Was

[tribal talon]

gn1 lore

so anyways whats the deal with the cult

i thought they were worshipping the ravens

but a raven killed that woman that maybe was a part of the cult

because of the golden apple coin that she had

and also in hn2 we saw the taxidermist yell at the ravens or something

[ripe berry]

The cult uses objects known only as "Luck Devices" in rituals to give them Good Luck but the town Bad Luck

They can also curse a family with Bad Luck

The Peterson family is proof of that (referring to cursing a family)

[shell gull]

They Worship Ravens And Possibly More Importantly The Guest Probably

[shell gull]

Some Of The Many Things That Happened Cuz Of It We’re: The Bosco Bay Incident, The Fernweh Welt Incident, The Golden Apple Incident. Possible Causes Of The Curse: Mya’s Death And Diane’s Death.

[ripe berry]

Yep

There's also the incident in Australia

[shell gull]

Wait What?

[ripe berry]

I thought in Book 1 there was mention of a Incident of a Park in Australia

[shell gull]

I Haven’t Read The Books In A Year So Idk

[ripe berry]

In Melbourne specifically

[shell gull]

Ohhhh I Think Ik What You’re Talking About

Also Didn’t Ted Make A Famous Theme Park In Japan Aswell

[ripe berry]

You just got confused because I said Australia and not specifically Melbourne

[shell gull]

Yeah

[ripe berry]

I don't remember but perhaps he did

[shell gull]

It Was Something Along The Lines Of: “Famous Theme Park Designer Theodore Masters Peterson Creature Of Attractions Across The World From Japan To America”

Idk

Also Isn’t There Like A Giant Statue Of The Guest Inside The Museum It’s Just Broken Threw Many Rooms

Such As This Room If You Look

In The Middle It’s A Big Pillar

And Through All The Rooms When You See This You Can Find Hands, Feet

Possibly A Head It’s All In The Shape Of The Guest

I Was Guessing It Was Based On The Big Guest Statue In HG

Here This Is What I’m Talking About

Cuz What Significant Does It Have In The Lore

I’m Guessing It Was The Forest Protectors Way Of Spreading More Rituals Across The Museum

[ripe berry]

This thing in the Park?

I didn't list HG Lore in my lore summarized thing but it has no connection to Forest Protectors

[crude dew]

I don't think the meaning of the HG statue, and the meaning of the HN2 cultist statue is the same, but who knows

[shell gull]

I’m not Talking About The Crow Statue In The Main Room That’s Hanging I’m Talking About The Giant Guest Statue The Is Inside Across The Entire Museum

The Structure Is The Exact Same As The Statue In HG

[crude dew]

I'm just saying in general, wasn't a reply

[shell gull]

Ahh Ok

HN2 Is The Rebranded Version Of HG

The Plot Is Very Similar

HG: Figure Out What The Secret Of The Guest Is And Where It Came From

HN2: Figure Out The Secrets In The Museum And How They Connect To The Guest.

The Main Plot Of HN2: Rescue Aaron

[shell gull]

Yeah That One The Structure Is Similar To The Giant Statue Inside The Walls And Rooms In The Museum

[languid geyser]

oh so it was a rebooted version of hello neighbor 1

thats great

but there was no need to call it HN 2 might i add.

[shell gull]

Not Really HN2 Was To Continue With The Things That We’re Left Out In-between Act 2 And 3

[ripe berry]

We know some of the stuff that happens between Acts 2 and 3

Like (Most likely) Trinity and Enzo getting married

(because we don't know if it was Trinity or not but it's heavily implied to be Trinity)

Or the Neighbor's House being burned down by someone

(Implied to be Aaron due to a statement that Hello Neighbor: Hide and Seek would reveal who burnt down the house and Nicky def didn't do it, Theodore has no reason to do it, and the other characters in HNHS are all dead)

HN2 didn't really solve much of the unknown stuff that happened in-between Acts 2 and 3

[crude dew]

I'm still amazed, how many people think that you will get married to the first person you ever fell in love with lol
I'm saying in general, I don't really pay much attention about the Trinity and Enzo thing

[ripe berry]

Again with the Trinity and Enzo thing it's heavily implied because the way Piper describes Jess(One of Enzo's Kids in Reset Day) is almost exactly how Trinity looks

[shell gull]

Yes You We’re A Security Guard But Your Main Goal Was To Get To The Top Of The Mountain And Get To The Guest Statue

[shell gull]

HN2 Is Supposed To Explain The Origin Of The Guest Which It Did

In My Opinion It Did

[ripe berry]

Honest Hello Guest Lore Question: Why are we guarding a abandoned park?

[shell gull]

From Vandals After Eyes And Ears The Company Hears There’s Problems With Vandalised Things In The Park So You Get Hired To Guard The Place At Night

[ripe berry]

Seems honestly kinda odd that our player characters would choose to work as a Crow Guard for an abandoned location

[shell gull]

Yeah But Remember It’s Still Raven Brooks Property

[ripe berry]

and that Beatrix would go after Quentin goes missing after Hello Guest Chapter 1(also known as Hello Guest Alpha 1)'s ending

[shell gull]

Supposedly Yes

I Feel Like I’m A HG Nerd Honestly

[ripe berry]

Me who's been trying to figure out what future Hello Guest Chapters would contain for the past 3 months now:

[shell gull]

Are They Continuing HG

[dry depot]

Tbh everyone who knows the lore is

Probably not

[shell gull]

There’s Secret Stuff Aswell

[ripe berry]

Maybe we'll find out what HG Lore was in WtRB

[shell gull]

Hopefully

[dry depot]

HG is canon

?

[shell gull]

There’s The Secret That The Guest Is For Some Reason Guarding A Wall That Leads To Mayak

[ripe berry]

Actually in HGP the Guest seems to be trying to blow up that wall

[dry depot]

He destroyed the wall that leads to mayak

[ripe berry]

You forgot the Bad Ending exists

[dry depot]

Yea

[shell gull]

Yeah The Guest Is Desperate For Some Reason To Get To Mayak

[dry depot]

I'm not sure

[ripe berry]

It seems like Quentin and the Guest have the same goal in HGP

[dry depot]

Not rlly

[ripe berry]

There's also the mystery person who turned on the window in HGP

[dry depot]

Quinton goal is to get to the top of the mountain

[dry depot]

How do you know they're missing

[ripe berry]

Whoever they are they must be important

[ripe berry]

Mystery doesn't mean Missing

[dry depot]

Yes

I agree

[ripe berry]

I never said Missing

[dry depot]

Oh srry

[ripe berry]

Mystery means we don't know much

[dry depot]

I read it wrong

[ripe berry]

Oh, it's ok

[dry depot]

I just like skipped the word and assumed it said missing

Bloopers

Lol

[ripe berry]

I'm going to start a Pinboard of Hello Guest Lore information so we can see what we have and what we need to know

[dry depot]

Yes

[shell gull]

From What Ik Mystery Person Was An Early Version Of MITH

[dry depot]

Who's mith

[ripe berry]

The Man in the Hat

[dry depot]

Oh

[shell gull]

He Was Supposed To Be The Secret Antagonist Of HG

[ripe berry]

The Guy in the ending of Hello Guest Alpha 1

[dry depot]

I'm who he is

I just didn't know he had a shorted name

[dry depot]

I don't think that would make much sense

But I'm not ,too, updated on the HG side of things

So I wouldn't know

But I don't think HG is canon

So I'm still questioning that

[shell gull]

In The Files For The Ending It Said Something Man_Hat

Idk

[dry depot]

I mean sure

[ripe berry]

Here's one question: Why does MitH try to grab our player character in HGA1's Ending

[shell gull]

Here’s The Answer

[dry depot]

Um maybe bc Quinton interacted with the guest

[ripe berry]

What does MitH have with Quentin and Beatrix that he seems to be invetigating them only to try to kidnap them

even BEFORE Quentin and Beatrix start their job at the GAAP

[dry depot]

He did

[shell gull]

MITH Is Trying To Get Rid Of The Guest, That’s Why He Snatched You, Cuz You Found Out Too Much About The Guest, He Didn’t Want Someone Getting In His Way.

[dry depot]

We didn't see Quinton and Beatrix until HG

[ripe berry]

Because he's the one holding the clipboards when we select our player at the start of HGA1

[dry depot]

That's basically what I said

[dry depot]

I mean

[shell gull]

He At First Wanted You As Bait That’s Why He Hired You And Yes He’s Apparently The One Who Hires Us

[dry depot]

We see the clipboards in the HN2A

[ripe berry]

This may not count but he(MitH) also drives past when Quentin and Beatrix go to the GAAP in the intro

You can't see him in Quentin's Intro but they put him there anyways

[dry depot]

Guys you know where I think I've seen these things in real life

[ripe berry]

brb

[shell gull]

Like I Said Were Bait, And Monitors Us Too Make Sure We Don’t Find Out Too Much, If We Do, Well Then You’re Now Officialy Simming.

[dry depot]

(Unfunny joke moment) ohio

[dry depot]

Bur I don't think that's it

Because Quinton in HN2 know a lot

And he never goes simming

Or does he

?

[shell gull]

HG Was Different Back Then The Story Was Different

[dry depot]

I mean yea

[shell gull]

He Does At The End

[wicked heath]

but does he

[dry depot]

And in the Alphas he has a new job

[wicked heath]

im pretty sure in any future update, we will play as the same character

[shell gull]

No I Thought You Ment Quentin

[dry depot]

So this could be a very difficult thing to solve

Not that it isn't already

[shell gull]

Also MITH Isn’t Exactly In The FG

[dry depot]

I did mean Quinton

[dry depot]

No but he is in a lot of teaser trailers for the game

[ripe berry]

Back

[shell gull]

The Reason MITH Doesn’t Kidnap Quentin Is Cuz He’s At Golden Apple

[ripe berry]

But then the Guest gets involved

[shell gull]

Exactly So Now We Go Simming

[ripe berry]

and the Guest ends up kidnapping our player character(s)

[dry depot]

Maybe mith hires Quinton as a journalist very far fetched I know

[dry depot]

True that is the secret ending

But it's probably not canon

[ripe berry]

taking us to Rumble on the Mill for the unreleased Chapter 2

[dry depot]

Sense it was scraped

[ripe berry]

We're talking Hello Guest Lore here buddy

most of this stuff IS scrapped

[dry depot]

I mean true

[ripe berry]

Also this stuff(The Secret Ending) was intended to be Hello Guest Alpha 2's intro

[dry depot]

Ok

[shell gull]

Exactly, That’s Why Anything Before The Beta Is Practically Scrapped

[dry depot]

I'm kinda leaning into uncharted territory here

I don't know much about the HG stuff so I'm just using what ik in whole

Which is the Canon stuff

[shell gull]

From What Ik The Only Canon Thing There Is From HG Is The Mountain A.K.A The Guest Hideout

Or Mayak For Short

[ripe berry]

The Guest Hideout (Visitor_Den) is actually Rumble on the Mill

It's not at the Weather Station

[dry depot]

I'm pretty sure the Mayak isn't the guest hide out

[shell gull]

Ik But There Was Also The Guarding Post Which Is Supposed To Be Mayak

[ripe berry]

Tell me, does this look like it could be meant to be Mayak

[dry depot]

No not really

[shell gull]

Is That The Mill?

[ripe berry]

Yes

That's the Mill

[shell gull]

Also The “Guarding Post” Was A Scrapped Idea Of A Place The Guest Protects

[ripe berry]

From the Hello Guest Reveal Trailer?

[dry depot]

Hence the name guarding post

[shell gull]

YES

The Farm House

[ripe berry]

It's actually the Security Post shoved into the ground

[shell gull]

It Was Apparently Next To Mayak From What IK

[ripe berry]

The file for the area was left-over in HGA1

[ripe berry]

It wasn't

[dry depot]

Hmmm

[shell gull]

Oh

[ripe berry]

It's right where the ending gets trigged in HGA1

That's nowhere near the Top of the Mountain where the Mayak resides

[shell gull]

This Place Right Here

[ripe berry]

Right there is the Cafe Building

[shell gull]

Ahh Okay So Not Atop The Mountain

There’s Still That Scrapped Idea Though

[ripe berry]

What Scrapped Idea?

[shell gull]

Apparently Not 100% On This But,

There Was A Scrapped Location Atop The Mountain Where The Guest Would Protect For An Unknown Reason

[ripe berry]

Where did you hear about this?

[shell gull]

Don’t Have Source But, There Was A Website On HG Topics And News Where They Would Put Things On HG

It’s Where I Heard Of The Mill

[ripe berry]

Do you still have the site?

[shell gull]

Nope… Last Time I Was Ever On It Was 2 Years Ago

[tribal talon]

Guys i have an idea

[dry depot]

What is it

Tell us the I D E A

[tribal talon]

What if somehow quinten is kidnapped and is taken into the neighbors basement (ny whoever kidnapped us in the end of hn2)

[wicked heath]

you mean the basement with a COP IN THERE??

[tribal talon]

So we get to see the neighbors basement still exists but is covered to look like it doesn't exist

[tribal talon]

Well no cop

What i like to think is that you know the wall where we get the crowbar from

Is a secret doorway to get into tbat basement

[wicked heath]

theres a cop though

And you will take an eternity to convince me Keith is a Raven

[tribal talon]

The cop leaves the house and has no idea about the secret basement

[dry depot]

He is tho

But I'm not gonna bother trying to convince you

[wicked heath]

Proofs?

[dry depot]

Well, I'm not sure I can

[wicked heath]

The books clearly shows he is against the cult and his game description tells us he always tries to be a good police officer

[dry depot]

I just herd in this chat that the npcs in HN2 are part of the cult

[wicked heath]

Only one so far

[dry depot]

So

Yea

[opal steeple]

he couldve been bribed i guess?

[dry depot]

Maybe

Never thought of that

[tribal talon]

Anyway that's just my lil idea

I wouldn't be surprised if the second part of hn2 is basically gonna turn out more crazy then part 1

Since i think thats fairly a hello neighbor trend tbh

[opal steeple]

i mean, he gives a key to baker gerda when you wake up on day 2, right?

you can see it on the cameras

[dry depot]

Yea

[wicked heath]

And how exactly. There just isnt enough evidence to prove it.

[wicked heath]

So?

[dry depot]

That's one proof he is in cult

[wicked heath]

Just a key

[dry depot]

Being bribed or no

[opal steeple]

he's in some way connected to helping theodore, one way or another

not saying he's in the cult but

[wicked heath]

Its not even the museum key

[opal steeple]

who knows at this point lol

[dry depot]

Yea

[wicked heath]

again, we cant rlly just imagine random scenarios without any prior evidences

exactly

[dry depot]

Ngl good point

[opal steeple]

i doubt he does if he's not apart of it

[wicked heath]

He is defnitely on Brendas side though

[dry depot]

Most ppl don't know about it

[opal steeple]

"huh. hrrm"

brenda??? 😭

i think you mean gerda

[wicked heath]

Ugh

Brenda Yi

[opal steeple]

OH

[wicked heath]

the mother of Lucy

[opal steeple]

forgot about her

[dry depot]

Yea

[opal steeple]

havent read the books in 2 years

[dry depot]

That part of lore is really useless

To like the whole plot of HN

1 and 2

[wicked heath]

Also, just based on her cute room with stuff animals and even a pet cat, Gerda doesnt look like the kind of person who would commit murders

[opal steeple]

my question is

[dry depot]

But like she did lose her own child to a roller coaster

[opal steeple]

why would theodore choose these random people, like gerda, to hide keys to his home to keep his kid away from the public

wouldn't it be smart to just hide the stuff yourself??

[dry depot]

Wrong key

[opal steeple]

?

[dry depot]

The key Gerda is keeping is to like a freezer room if I remember

[opal steeple]

the key in the cash register goes to the entrance of the museum

[dry depot]

Yea

Idk

This series is always changing and it's hard to keep track of everything

[opal steeple]

and the people theodore's convincing to help him are obviously very convinced to help, i mean gerda taking out the literal buttons to her register to hide the key

when in doubt, blame hello neighbor

[dry depot]

Ngl the HN1 parkour made me insane

But this is lore chat

Not HN1 chat so thats besides the point

No HN2 is right after act2

So ye

Cause in HN1 Aaron distracts mr. Peterson

To help Nicky get away

And in HN2 we can see Aaron

Well you had too

If you were to get past the full game

K

[ripe berry]

I feel like HN2's Intro is right after Act 2

At least the part with Aaron

Yeah

Before Act 1 doesn't really make a whole lot of sense to me

and between Acts 1-2 also wouldn't make too much sense

[tribal talon]

It is after act 2 but possibly a few months after act 2

Im fairly sure its not straight after act 2

[ripe berry]

Is it bc the Fortifications in Act 2?

Act 2 does happen just not as we see it

[tribal talon]

Well thing is hn1 and hn2 kinda feel like they have somewhat different universes kinda but ig so and just the changes to the house

Plus the neighbors beard and stuff

The neighbor gets driven more mad

[ripe berry]

So anything that's different between HN1 Act 2 and HN2 could be chalked up to Nicky's memory not being correct

The general Story Act 2 gives (Aaron helping Nicky escape the Basement and the ending cutscene) is correct, but the rest of it isn't

Tho the position of Theodore is different in the Cutscene so it works with the Tall Fence

He's prob actually just on his front porch in the Real in-universe Act 2's Ending

[tribal talon]

Well that makes sense

Naughty naughry

[ripe berry]

Exactly!

[tribal talon]

Makes sense

I guess what also makes sense is we see nickys posters around hn2

Ok ig it could be around the time nicky escapes

Hence the cops and stuff

[ripe berry]

Actually people have said that before

But hey glad to see others figure it out

[tribal talon]

Unless nicky had trauma and couldn't confess for a while which adds some time

Tho idk seems kinda useless

I still wanna know how does the neighbors house go up in flames

Thats why I think in hn2 we will be revisiting the house in the extention and perhaps it has more to offer then what we seen so far

[ripe berry]

As far as I'm aware it was never proven but heavily implied

[ripe berry]

We actually got one big clue

that Hello Neighbor: Hide and Seek was (at the very least) meant to reveal who burned it down

this means that A PERSON burned it down

and that this person had existed at the time of Hello Neighbor: Hide and Seek

Now the only characters that existed at this time was Nicky, Mr.Peterson, Diane, Aaron, and Mya

Diane and Mya are dead

So therefore it must be Aaron

[ripe berry]

And I'm not going to mention Stage 3 a group of us agreed that it shouldn't be used as evidence

[tribal talon]

Eh nah i don't believe in aaron burning the house anymore

I mean hide and seek is before hn 1 and the house is still there in hn2

Plus atm ut seems like aaron isn't angry at theo or anything

[ripe berry]

Also supporting evidence for Aaron being the one who did it if Mr.Peterson was going to burn down the house you think he would've done so before the cops showed up

[tribal talon]

If anything perhaps another character has done it

[ripe berry]

Now granted HN2 was made after the statement but it still holds true

[tribal talon]

Maybe the guest or just some other character all together

I can imagine if hello neighbor becomes a ghost game all of a sudden

[ripe berry]

Now then again Peterson's House burning down was seemingly retconned by Reset Day

[tribal talon]

I mean the game features weird entitys

Thing tho hes just an imagination of nickys of what represents fear to him

The guest whos a literal demon of some sorts

Ngl thing just feels like something fairly forgettable now after the guests appearance XD

U sure

We never rlly see him suffering from it

I mean only nicky sees it

I dont really think so as much honestly

Never really been a moment where theo was shown to see him

He could have his own demon or perhaps guest haunts him

Idk maybe he imagines myas ghost

Nicky or quinten seen the guest?

Oh never

Idk i read tbat different the first time

Ngl tho

I wonder who makes the better entity

The guest or the thing

I mean I would say guest cuz 1

It seems hes possibly more real then the thing

Tho I will say the thing did feel more crazy

Guest is more funny

But the thing was more distorted

His animations where weird and unhumanly for a humanoid figure

The sounds he makes

[ripe berry]

The Thing is literally a representation of Fears and Trauma

[tribal talon]

Tbh his figure is more slim like nicks whereas the guest from the chest side of things looks more like the neighbors figure

Or the guest could represent quinten too

[ripe berry]

Guest is more real then the Thing is

Guest is also a demon of some kind

A literal Demon unlike the Thing

(or not demon but supernatural being)

[tribal talon]

Im so scared they gonna go with a satanic route with hello neighbor

I really just hope that doesn't happen abd still kinda go with the more kid friendly thing

Tho in hn acc kid friendly

[ripe berry]

and has actually been shown to be able to take over people

[tribal talon]

Tbh i can imagine the neighbor having things of his wife and daighter

[ripe berry]

yeah

Fun Fact: The Guest wasn't intending to remain in Ted

It's heavily implied the Guest wants to possess Pris for some reason

Well I mean: in the intro of the Book when the crow flies by something seems to calling out Pris's name, in the red thingie (or as I call it Guest_Nest) it takes the form of Pris at the end there, and more I'm probably forgetting

and you deleted the thing I was about to reply to

Hey there you go, that's the most likely reason why

(that and maybe it's the only way the Guest can maintain a physical form for extended periods of time so why do a 2for1 by taking over someone that is taken for granted AND use them to have a physical form in this world for a extended period of time)

Perhaps the Guest is unable to leave physical form when possessing someone

To stop it off from getting turned off making it so that someone would have to go down there leaving Pris by herself

(That's my guess at least)

It also seems to need water to switch/enter bodies so it needed Pris in the water

But Pris was pulled out before it could get to her leaving the Guest inside Ted

[shell gull]

Can Someone Fill Me In On What’s The Topic

[ripe berry]

I mean, you wouldn't say Water is wet would you? and the Guest seems to be made with water

[shell gull]

Ok What About Him?

Ahh I See

[ripe berry]

I mean it forms from Water in GN2 and it's a goopy blob in the red space

[shell gull]

The Guest Possesses People Cuz His Goal Is To Spread In Order For Him To Spread There Needs To Be Agony In People That’s Why He Takes From People To Make Agony Worse

[ripe berry]

You know the space where among other things it mentions Regina's Dog Flan being dead and temp takes the appearance of Pris?

[shell gull]

You Mean The Nest?

[ripe berry]

Yeah

Yeah but before it does the Guest is a goopy blob

[shell gull]

Not Really Sure It From Water It Forms From The Nest Goop

The Nest Is Where The Guest Consciousness Resides

Early In Chat I Saw Some Talks In Chat About The Thing Connection With The Guest

[ripe berry]

Again the Guest probably uses water to form it's "Physical Form" so it wouldn't be able to be wet since water would just help keep it's physical form held together for longer

[shell gull]

Theory I Made With Another Person: The Thing Is An Agony Searcher For The Guest, An Early Alarm, When It Finds Agony It Grows Bigger And Bigger In The Persons Mind, Until All That’s Left Is The Guest, As It Got Too Big And Evolved Into The Guest.

[tribal talon]

Guess what

I am the guest

Click click

[shell gull]

I Don’t Believe In That, That Much But It’s A Cool Theory

[tribal talon]

Maybe the guest is made of ink and this is just the bendy and neighbor merge thing all over again but canon XD

[ripe berry]

Some proof for this is that the Thing in SN among other things takes the form of the Guest

[shell gull]

Exactly

[ripe berry]

Would also allow for that to exist without any of the SN kids having heard of the Guest

[ripe berry]

(Because yes the Secret Neighbor in Secret Neighbor is the Thing)

[shell gull]

There’s Also The Fact That At The End Of Hello Neighbor You Can See The Thing Is Breaking Into Teds Mind And Wouldn’t You Know It He Got Possessed By The Guest

[ripe berry]

Yep, wouldn't ya' know it

[shell gull]

Yup

[ripe berry]

Act 3 is not a dream

[shell gull]

True

[ripe berry]

Nikita said as much

[shell gull]

Wait What?

[ripe berry]

It's not actually happening IRL but it's not a dream

[shell gull]

Ahh Him Getting Over Fears, Act 4 Is Him Fighting Back

True Remember Nicky Fell Asleep At Evening Then He Wakes Up It’s Still Evening

[ripe berry]

The only statement given as to what it(Acts 3 and Finale) is was that it was "Self Therapy"

[shell gull]

It’s Him Relaxing His Mind Getting Over It

[ripe berry]

thx

[shell gull]

How Many Times Has Nicky Had Therapy

He Had Therapy When He Was Kid Daily

He Went From Getting Therapy To Making Therapy

[ripe berry]

and the Thing Blowing up in Act Finale is Nicky getting over his trauma and fears of the past

(Note to get past the Basement where the Thing resides Nicky needs(or at least is intended to have) beaten those minigames specifically referred to as Fear Rooms)

The scene with the Neighbor trapped in the house is kinda symbolic of how the Neighbor was trapped because he couldn't stand up to his fears of losing his family

[manic dirge]

how?

[ripe berry]

Don't really know but Nikita said so so it has to be true

[manic dirge]

do you have any theories?

[manic dirge]

@ripe berry

[silver vine]

so , guys

what if ||the person who knocks Quentin in HN2 ending is Norman Darby?||

[ripe berry]

Explain

[unkempt sleet]

Isn't Norman also Ted's friend?

[silver vine]

yes, he is Ted's friend

[unkempt sleet]

I mean if the guy at the end was Norman, He would help Ted instead of bonking Quentin on the head

[silver vine]

from the shadow, it looks like hes wearing a jacket similar to Quentin, and who we know wears similar clothes to Quentin? Norman Darby

[silver vine]

hed first remove Quentin out of the picture and then focus on helping Ted

[silver vine]

also, we dont see his hair, which means hes wearing a cap(like Norman does)

or hes bald

if hes bald, I'd say hes the missing journalist, but, why would he be involved in this

[lyric zephyr]

He went missing, maybe he was taken and indoctrinated into the cult?

Like he's probably also the one who takes Quentin all the way back to the Banner

[silver vine]

maybe murdered

like poor Ike

cuz he found Otto's cultist stuff

[lyric zephyr]

Also, I really doubt it's Norman Darby, since the AS ties into HN2 directly apparently and it isn't using the book story

and they share the same writers for the cartoon and the game

[royal lake]

Hi where's the General text

[silver vine]

"isnt using book story" forest protector cultist stuff in both HN2 and AS

[lyric zephyr]

did you forget Alex legit said they're not using the book story

They took the cult from it then threw the rest away

[silver vine]

I doubt they took only the cult

[lyric zephyr]

Oh right, sorry
The cult and character names

[silver vine]

the golden apple inventors club photo in SN and HE

it was added very recently in HE too

[lyric zephyr]

Yeah? They
Still have the inventors club as a thing even in the AS. Somehow still active.

But in the AS, Maritza doesn't even know Mya!

[silver vine]

true!

neither does she know about Peterson!

[lyric zephyr]

Nobody does except potentially Ivan!

Nicky Trinity Enzo and Maritza were never friends w/ Aaron and Mya, heck I don't think they've even met them personally

They know OF them! But they just don't care. They're breaking in for the hell of it, or at least Nicky is.

[silver vine]

Nicky is prob friends with Aaron

[lyric zephyr]

He's not, I can already predict. He never refers to Aaron by name, he keeps thinking Aaron and Mya were murdered, he doesn't even have the foresight to see what Ted does outside of his house like he does in the books

He just says "Mr Peterson murdered his kids! I gotta break in, hey you guys wanna break in I wanna break in"

[unkempt sleet]

Funny thing, AS tries to connect SN to the HN1 and HN2 and stuff. But SN also has the photo with Mya, Maritza and Lucy!

[silver vine]

I think this cuz of this

[lyric zephyr]

Sorry, AS doesn't match up with that. Can't possibly be canon

AS is the new canon.

[silver vine]

:(

[unkempt sleet]

Oh wait i didnt noticed that. Thats interesting

[lyric zephyr]

https://tenor.com/view/robotnik-true-depressing-but-true-grounder-aosth-adventures-of-sonic-the-hedgehog-gif-26388695

[silver vine]

wait, how is roller coaster blue prints here

[lyric zephyr]

No idea

Heck they're not even blueprints they're just copypaper doodles

[silver vine]

its in Peterson's study too

[lyric zephyr]

Asset reuse without lore implications I guess? Unless Nicky stole a copy he had lying around

[unkempt sleet]

That sounds like a thing Nicky would do tbh

[silver vine]

wait

why does AS and HN2 have different principals

[lyric zephyr]

because

They do not care about the lore

Heck why isn't the school abandoned?

They legit made it from a different school to the HN2 School intentionally, they added the broken clock last minute

[silver vine]

prob gets abandoned later ig

[lyric zephyr]

But in HN2 it's implied the school's been closed for

Years

Janitor was the Principal back when he still had color in his hair

[silver vine]

the old design for the school in AS was red

[lyric zephyr]

And it didn't have a clock tower

[silver vine]

and no clock

[silver vine]

ye

[lyric zephyr]

They legit changed it last minute bc "Hehe hey what if we made it VAGUELY HN2 without changing the lore at all.."

because the school shape isn't even right

[silver vine]

maybe its just an easter egg, and not the actual HN2 school

[lyric zephyr]

Yeah

Let's go w/ that

[frosty wedge]

Wait

I just found out that Mr. Gershowitz's full name is Ike Quentin Cornelius Gershowitz

I mean it could've been found

But just wanna point it out

[toxic mist]

Yeah it was

Seems like a funny coincidence

Unless the true ending of hn2 is gonna be him getting chased by the fps and dying which is the prologue of book 4

That would mean his nickname is quentin

Of course why tf would the neighbor be in the hideout then

Nevermind

[frosty wedge]

Yeah lol

[frosty wedge]

Maybe he didn't actually die?

Maybe they just found a random corpse in the factory

Btw where'd you guys get the deluxe detective role?

[opal steeple]

you can't get it anymore but you got it if you filled a forum showing proof that you preordered HN2

at least i dont think you can get it anymore

[manic dirge]

ah dam

[manic dirge]

what was it called?

[opal steeple]

the role?

[manic dirge]

no the forum

[opal steeple]

i forget but it was a pinned message on the main channel

[manic dirge]

crap you cant submit a forum no more

dang i got deluxe but i was too late

[opal steeple]

rip

[manic dirge]

besides i think i was unbanned after they stopped accepting requests

[shell gull]

They Have A Great Resemblance

[toxic mist]

https://tblink.co/HN2DeluxeDetective

[loud tartan]

it doesn't work anymore

wdym

[strong coral]

What is your favourite HN books

[wicked heath]

First 2 trilogies

everything after that is awful

[proud sable]

[shell gull]

GN2 Was Pretty Good

[tropic sedge]

hey

[shell gull]

Ok This Is For Something In #hello-neighbor

Basically The Reason Why We Don’t See The Guest That Much Is Cuz They Currently Don’t Have An AI Ready For It But

[unkempt sleet]

Thats not true

They have an ai for Guest

[manic dirge]

use the AI from hello guest -_-

[shell gull]

They Do?

[tropic sedge]

????? lmao???

[unkempt sleet]

They literally made him a good Ai in the Alpha's

[pure ivy]

they do

they have an AI

[shell gull]

Oh Well Don’t They Need To ReImplement It?

[pure ivy]

im pretty sure like

lore-wise

he actually is still here

just not VISIBLE

-opening
-shovel nightmare cutscene (at the door)
-the crow statue above the museum (makes sense in the ending too)

[manic dirge]

for 1 SECOND

[manic dirge]

he was in the game

[pure ivy]

his MODEL, was in the game

for 1 second

the character is still basically in, but its not obvious enough

[shell gull]

But This Is Lore Chat So I’m Talking About Some Lore Real Quick So Listen Up @tropic sedge

[pure ivy]

i just gave the lore reason

lmfao

[shell gull]

No I’m Giving The Origin

[pure ivy]

origin?

dude

there IS no origin

[manic dirge]

what the HELL are you talking about

[shell gull]

Sorry Word It Wrong Meant To Say Where It CAME From

[tropic sedge]

dude this is so disappointing, guest was my favorite thing about the alphas and the fact that he isn't in the final game is such a massive let down

[pure ivy]

the guest???

[shell gull]

Same Here

[pure ivy]

we have no idea

[manic dirge]

yes!

[pure ivy]

all we have are theories

theres no CONFIRMED theory

[manic dirge]

they couldve used the AI from hello guest

[shell gull]

Yeah There’s A Theory A Couple Guys Made Don’t Have Their Discord Names But, If You Look Around The Museum There’s So Many Guest Related Things Even Though Cultists use The Place, Possibly They We’re Trying To Summon The Guest But When They Did It Went Horribly Wrong And The Guest Ran Into The Neighborhood, They Then Stole The Keys To Make Sure No One Could Enter And Find Evidence. Pretty Cool Theory I’m Not 100% On It But It’s A Cool One

[pure ivy]

uhhhh

[wicked heath]

Ravens and the Guest are not the same

ravens is an entire cult

the Guest is independent

[shell gull]

Lemme Explain The Cultists Believe The Guest As A God, They Filled The Statue With Golden Apple Coins, As A Offering Finally When They Tried To Summon The Guest It Was Disobedient, And Ran Off Into The Town They Didn’t Want Anyone Finding Out So They Stole The Keys To Make Sure No One Would Find Out.

[pure ivy]

dude

this is

[wicked heath]

Again: The guest is NOT the statue!!

[pure ivy]

no

[shell gull]

Ok Explain To Me Why There’s A Giant Museum Sized Guest Statue In The Museum Threw All The Rooms?

[pure ivy]

i literally have a theory that makes more sense than this

[shell gull]

Throw It To Me

[pure ivy]

Guest World still being in play

[wicked heath]

Do you listen to me??

[pure ivy]

it sounds stupid, but hear me out

[shell gull]

Also Guest Is Independent Like I Said It Ran Off

[pure ivy]

We've seen what the guest can do