lore-discussion

[stiff spire]

yeah

[pale urchin]

I mean, how is tinybuild gonna make any money, at the end of the day, there's tubi, a free streaming to stream without spending any money

[stiff spire]

oh yeah

[bleak spear]

Ad revenue?

[pale urchin]

Yeah

[ripe berry]

@ancient nymph This is #lore-discussion, ask about the pins in #hello-neighbor (I know I'm not a mod just saying)

[ancient nymph]

a, ok

[jaunty mortar]

What happened to Ike

[ripe berry]

Died

Shoved into a Peppermint Golden Apple™️ Candy Vat

[jaunty mortar]

Ok

And who killed him

[ripe berry]

We don't know the exact person

[jaunty mortar]

Ok

[ripe berry]

but we know it was a part of the Forest Protector Cult

[jaunty mortar]

O

Interesting

[ripe berry]

(and yes I'm calling it a cult)

[ripe berry]

Most likely either Gordon Cleave or Dale Tapps

[jaunty mortar]

That got him ?

[ripe berry]

But only because we don't really know many of the other Cult Members

The only other one we really know ANYTHING about is the one who happened to be Mayor of RB at the time, Marvin Tavish

and he's cowardly enough (I mean he ends up not going to the ritual that ended up getting the cult exposed) that he probably wouldn't dare try to kill Ike

[jaunty mortar]

O

Wow

[ripe berry]

And the only other member we know about we only know the name of

and his name is Harold

[ripe berry]

Yes, I know, you probably only know him through the wiki mentioning him, but he is a actual character mentioned in the books and not just a false construct of the wiki

He's mentioned in Book 6/Puzzle Master

[shell gull]

Ike Is Mr. Petersons Childhood Friend

[lyric zephyr]

Yep

Childhood best friend and he was a nightshift security guard

[lyric zephyr]

He was a fairly important character in books 4-6, man

[small belfry]

bagger lore

[frosty wedge]

Read the books lmao

[ripe berry]

his name is Delroy

[silver vine]

Ivan

[ripe berry]

That's the known Bagger Lore

[ripe berry]

That is Inventor not Bagger

[silver vine]

I know

[ripe berry]

Now debate: is AS Ep. 1 during when Book 2 is meant to happen or when Book 3 is meant to happen

(or both)

[lyric zephyr]

I'd say potentially Book 2, since as far as we know unless it happens at the end of the episode Nicky hasn't gone missing yet

which I'm not sure exactly how we'd line it up with Book 3 at all tbh, since Nicky's friends are all 100% on-board with breaking in w/ him when Book 3 it was pretty much the opposite

I guess just Nicky going missing

[tribal talon]

AS is during when AS has to happen

[ripe berry]

Me explaining the lore:

So the Missing Journalist is a friend of Mr.Otto who goes missing shortly before the events of HN2

We currently don't know what the cause of him going missing is

but we'll find out in either HN2 or AS

[thin wadi]

Wait why the AS?

Is the AS HN2?

[lyric zephyr]

They're connected somehow

Have a connected story ig

[candid harness]

It's a story that ties HN1 and HN2 together

So it's going to have elements from both

[thin wadi]

Oh I see now

[ripe berry]

In particular it'll tie the stories of Act 1/2 and HN2

[thin wadi]

I think search and rescue might have some lore to tie in too

In one of the comments on the trailer uploaded by tinyBuild someone asked if it was canon

And tB replied yes

[ripe berry]

Damn someone thought it wasn't canon 💀

[thin wadi]

?

[ripe berry]

(For context Every Piece of HN media unless said otherwise is apparently canon)

[thin wadi]

True

[ripe berry]

(But now we assume Books 2, 3, and the Guidebook are non-canon due to AS)

[thin wadi]

Why 2 and 3?

[ripe berry]

(Guidebook was only "canon" bc it has canon info)

[ripe berry]

AS overwrites the events of Waking Nightmare and Buried Secrets

Act 1 still happens

[thin wadi]

Oh

[ripe berry]

Just more like the games and less like Buried Secrets

[thin wadi]

Wait but book 1 isn't even act 1 yet

[ripe berry]

Act 1 still happens

Just more like the games then the books

[thin wadi]

I'm still confused, book 1 is when mya is still alive, nicky and Aaron are friends

[ripe berry]

(Or sorry, I mean the book is non-canon but the Game is still canon, making it so the game has higher priority again)

[ripe berry]

Book 1 and HNHS happen at the same time

[thin wadi]

He doesn't go into the basement until book 3 (or 4 i forgot which)

[ripe berry]

HNHS ends shortly after Book 1 ends

[thin wadi]

Oh

True

[ripe berry]

Book 3, Book 4 is the start of the prequels

[thin wadi]

Oh I see now

[ripe berry]

AS overwrites Books 2 and 3, but doesn't overwrite the events of Act 1, just the book version of it

Book 1 is only still in the canon because of HND having scenes from it showing it still exists to some capacity

and HND is still canon because nothing proves it isn't

[thin wadi]

Also the events of SN are partially canon right? Like ik its all in the kids' imagination but the fact that 6 kids try to sneak into Mr Peterson's basement to save nicky is canon

Right?

[ripe berry]

Same with the Prequel Books

[ripe berry]

Yes, what do you think Search and Rescue is?

SN is the planning phase

HNVR is the plan put into action

[thin wadi]

Alr

[ripe berry]

but with distortions but it's still real

[thin wadi]

Makes sense

[ripe berry]

Just not exactly how presented

If you're wondering the current timeline it goes something like: GN1, Book 4, Book 5, Book 6, Book 1/HNHS, AS Start, Act 1, SN, HNVR, HE, Act 2, HN2, AS End, GN2, Act 3, Act Finale, HND, Book 7

[thin wadi]

What does GN stand for?

[ripe berry]

Graphic Novel

[thin wadi]

Oh

[ripe berry]

As in either The Secret of Bosco Bay or The Raven Brooks Disaster

[thin wadi]

I've read the secret of bosco bay

But not the other one

Also book 7 is reset day correct?

[ripe berry]

yes

[thin wadi]

I still have to read book 6 and 7

And ill probably re-read 5 because I don't remember anything. Its been so long

Also remember the abandoned town from HN2 alphas?

[ripe berry]

Yeah I remember

Abandoned RB

[thin wadi]

Is that completely scrapped?

[ripe berry]

As far as I'm aware yes

The artstyle sure as hell is

[thin wadi]

Because that seems like it could fit the end if the timeline, well depending on what the events of HN2 are

When it rrleases

[ripe berry]

HN2A1/HN2A1.5 seem to be non-canon

but if it is

It's actually BEFORE the main game

because in HN2A1.5 you see 3 Trick or Treaters go missing ya?

[tacit dawn]

can someone explain the lore to me simply

[ripe berry]

Well their Simming Posters are in HN2 FG as shown by this Screenshot

[ripe berry]

So it starts in the 1960s

[loud tartan]

reversed posters 🌝

[tacit dawn]

mhm

[ripe berry]

Ok maybe some of these events that I'll explain happen earlier but in general it's around the 1940s to 1960s

But (thanks to the prequel books for making this so complicated) we got this group of cultists, known as the Forest Protectors

Basically what they do is during storms they conduct rituals using objects known as Luck devices which... in case it wasn't obvious... give the user good luck but others in the proximity who don't have one bad luck

(the proximity being the entire town pretty much)

Using these devices had a odd side effect that storms showed up more often in the town, which is named Raven Brooks in case you didn't know

This attracts the attention of 2 Meteorologists, named Adelle and Roger Peterson (yes they are married and no they aren't Brother Sister)

They happen to have themselves 2 kids, Theodore Peterson, who you may know as the Neighbor, the "main antagonist" of most of the franchise, and Lisa Peterson, who isn't all that important

Anyways there's also a Candy Company in RB ran by some of the Forest Protectors

Just mentioning this for later

But the 2 Meteorologists try to study said weather and nearly come upon the Forest Protector Cult, who then manage to cut off their funding

Then the Factory for the Candy company I mentioned blows up and Adelle and Roger are blamed for it

in 1965 there's this guy named Norman Darby who's writing a news article on the Forest Protectors

He goes missing and is presumed dead

now this isn't that important but the Neighbor nearly opens his first theme park in 1984, a kid dies after sneaking in and riding a un-approved ride, park closes

[ripe berry]

The Neighbor has a wife by this time

The neighbor builds theme parks all over the world and has his 2 kids, Aaron and Mya

[ripe berry]

Then a incident happens in Germany making Ted and his family move to RB

Yes

[ripe berry]

He gets contracted to build a park for the Candy Company I mentioned earlier, which is named the Golden Apple Corporation

[tacit dawn]

mhm

[ripe berry]

The park here is the one from Hello Guest, Hello Engineer, and Map 5 of Secret Neighbor

The one he's building I mean

Anyways Forgot to mention the Neighbor has himself a friend in RB

His name is Ike

[thin wadi]

R.i.p Ike (forshadowing)

[ripe berry]

The events of the Prequel Books were crazy

[ripe berry]

Yes Ike ends up dead

[ripe berry]

We got the Forest Protector Cult and the Neighbor's family ending up in what could only be described as a all-out war

Ike ends up dead

[ripe berry]

If you don't want Puzzle Master spoilers leave now

[ripe berry]

The Forest Protectors try to get Mya killed on the opening day of the Golden Apple Amusement Park but fail

Killing a 10-year old girl named Lucy Yi

Norman's revealed to be alive

He sends notes to the Banner to try to meet up with Aaron

S**t happens

Forest Protectors end up getting exposed and arrested

yep, that's all before the HN1 Player Character even moves into town

In case you were wondering the HN1 Player Character is named Nicky

So in either 1995 (as in the books originally had it) or 200X (as the Cartoon/Animated Series is going to make it) his family (including him) moves into Raven Brooks

Hello Neighbor: Hide and Seek starts around this time

Nicky and Aaron meet each-other the following day

They end up as close friends

HNHS Stages 2 and 3 happen

The Neighbor's wife (who is named Diane (sorry for not mentioning this earlier)) ends up dead

due to a car crash

Stages 4 and 5 Happen

Mya's now dead

Aaron leaves a cryptic note to Nicky saying "I make bad things happen"

Neighbor locks Aaron in Basement

Puts up Missing Posters to make it seem like they're missing

Nicky ain't buying this tho

Eventually loosing his other friends who I totally didn't forget to mention

In-case you're wondering his other friends are the kids in Secret Neighbor

Act 1 happens

Nicky ends up in the Basement

Nicky's old friends plan to rescue him

They try (and fail) to do so

Hello Engineer happens and they end up in a fricking time loop for who knows how long

Act 2 happens

Nicky calls the cops on Ted

Journalist who we don't know anything about Mysteriously goes missing

Quentin (our HN2 Player Character) is pulled from the Big City nearby to temporarily replace him

HN2 happens

I'll let the others on the server explain anything you might still have questions on

But anyways

GN2 happens with the town being flooded and the Guest being revealed to be a supernatural creature tat can possess people

It ends up controlling the Neighbor

Act 3 + Finale happens

Whatever the Heck Hello Neighbor Diaries is happens

in 20XX the entire town ends up in a time loop

then Reset Day happens

Now I know I rushed through the ending stuff here

But I gotta go do something so I tried to rush

(Also sorry for the text wall)

Yeah this is why we can't have nice things, you ask for a HN lore explanation and you get this text wall

[tacit dawn]

so why does he build his house 2000 feet in the aur

air

[ripe berry]

That he does not

It's either distorted, imagination, or whatever the hell Act 3 is

[tacit dawn]

wit all the roller coaster n stuff

[ripe berry]

(It's apparently not a dream but it isn't reality)

[tacit dawn]

do what is it

[solid dew]

it's a nightmare

[ripe berry]

Now goodbye for a bit I'll be back as soon as I can

[solid dew]

but it's also self therapy
it's nicky reliving the events of his past but incredibly distorted and with a massive house (representing how big the fear has gotten) but this time he's overcoming all of his fears

[tacit dawn]

i never knew anybody was still on about this game

[ripe berry]

And I'm back

[feral brook]

bro wrote the whole lore

[ancient nymph]

The way to know if someone is possessed by the Guest is that his eyes are gray or whow?

[lyric zephyr]

Nope

You really can’t tell unless they end up wearing the costume

[ancient nymph]

I said it because in the GN 2 in the nightmare when it transforms into the girl it has gray eyes (I don't remember her name)

and the girl has brown eyes

but then when it happens with Mr. Peterson, it still has green eyes

[tribal talon]

https://tenor.com/view/hello-neighbor-gif-22677627

the people who still think nicky is the neighbors son

[unkempt sleet]

Does people really still think that?

[tribal talon]

yes

[round hatch]

it's people out of touch

ugh i keep forgetting

it's the people who still call the neighbor names like mark

[tribal talon]

the same people also think that alpha 1 is still canon and that the the thing is a demon

[ancient nymph]

who really thinks that Nicky is Theodore's son?

[ancient nymph]

An Ink Demon? (sorry for that)

[tribal talon]

go in a random hello neighbor 1 video and scroll down the comments

[ancient nymph]

ok

I didn't find any comment of that

[pale urchin]

FGTEEV:

[ancient nymph]

what?

[tribal talon]

search in lets play and hello neighbo lore explained videos

[pale urchin]

Fgteev still thinks Quentin is the neighbors son

Which I heard of someone saying it

[lyric zephyr]

Mart Wilson!

[ancient nymph]

I've searched and it doesn't appear anyone saying Nicky=Neighbor's son

[oblique drum]

cory the crow

i literally found out about that name from this community i have no idea where it even came from

[pale urchin]

Now I know why markiplier quit hello neighbor

[urban fulcrum]

Wilson Arc

[lyric zephyr]

Hello everybody my name is Markipeterson and welcome back to the Museum

[bleak spear]

Dakblake

That’s where it came from

[pale urchin]

Thats what mark has been doing for the past 5 years 😳

[crude dew]

dude

mfw people who don't know earlier storylines :)

[candid harness]

Those storylines aren't relevant anymore

Nicky might have been the neighbor's son in an older storyline but that storyline was dropped and Nicky has no blood relation to Theodore in any way

[median stirrup]

Technically speaking not even "Nicky" just "the player" at the time since at the time the character of "Nicky Roth" never existed

Which is kinda funny to think about since if that story line was still a thing he most likely wouldn't be called Nicky Roth

[candid harness]

Yeah

I don't see the version of the character we have now as the same one we had in that storyline

[median stirrup]

Yeah he seemed different definitely

[crude dew]

we're talking about a franchise with 47328423 storylines, let people like what they want
fr

[candid harness]

I am not saying you can't like what you want

I literally never said that

I only said that the previous storyline isn't relevant anymore

[crude dew]

they way you said it pretty much suggest that we shouldn't even touch the elder storylines

[candid harness]

You were acting as if the older storyline was still relevant and canon with this response

Not going to argue though

[hallow bronze]

Lore talking Lore talking Lots of lore talking Even more lore talking

[viscid portal]

Hi,interesting,that will be in graphic novel 8?

?

[hardy moth]

what do u guys thing the shadow man is when grown up nicky moves back to his house

i think it’s a physical representation of his ptsd growing up of the neighbor

[tribal talon]

yes

[silver vine]

dakblake

[silver vine]

https://tenor.com/view/wolf-gif-24607072

finally someone who correctly said what the thing is

[hardy moth]

👌🏻👌🏻👌🏻👌🏻

can we all agree that every alpha and beta are not canon

[silver vine]

yes

[hardy moth]

this is random but i’d love to see a spin off game set in another time line, similar to the concept of FNAF Plus, and it’d be a polished Alpha 1, with the same kinda textures and graphics just polished /remastered because that house hit different 💯

[tribal talon]

I would love that tbh

[ancient nymph]

I have a theory that I don't care if you can say a reason why the theory goes where it belongs, the trash, but idk.

What if ACT 2,3,4 is all a dream or fantasy of Nicky because he is trapped and he belives that he scapes the neighbor's basement?

pls tell your opinion abou it

[lyric zephyr]

That would be good for a darker alternate story honestly, but doesn't really match up with current canon

It's an interesting idea though

[ancient nymph]

when I broke my leg, I dreamed that I was walking, what if Nicky does the same but with being free?

[ripe berry]

Yes

[ancient nymph]

and also explains why there are still missing posters of Nicky

[ripe berry]

Act 2 is said to be a distorted memory

in HN2 Beta (I know it's not canon but I'm assuming they won't change this) to solve Nicky's Missing Case all you have to do is walk up to Nicky's House

This means HN2 must be THE NIGHT of Act 2 IRL

[ripe berry]

If we didn't have HN2 and intreviews then this theory might work

[ancient nymph]

I still think that Quentin will rescue Nicky....

[ripe berry]

Or at least start that way

[ripe berry]

Spoilers for HN2 (don't click if you don't want spoilers): ||the leaks don't support this thought process||

It means what you probably think it means: HN2 happens later that night from when Act 2 actually happens

Anyways that convo should go in #old-spoilers , back to regular stuff

[ancient nymph]

ok

[ripe berry]

Let's just move on

[silver vine]

the devs confirmed that act 2 was a distorted memory; Nicky did escape, but he imagined the house having extensions and tall fences, but in reality, he never added those

thats why the house is normal in HN2

[ripe berry]

However one thing we can not pinpoint is the year Act 2/HN2 happen in

Because: Games: 1997, Nikita's implications: 1998-1999, Books implication: 1996, AS: 2000's

[silver vine]

early 2000s is the canon one

all the rest has been retconned

[candid harness]

The exact year doesn't matter too much imo, everything that happens can happen regardless of exact time

Also isn't the milk carton our only way of knowing the year the game took place?

[ripe berry]

That and Nikita answering questions

At least in the original game lore before Books and stuff changed it

[candid harness]

The milk carton texture was made in the old story and intended for act 3 so I wouldn't trust that too much

[ripe berry]

No that is Wayron Croobian

[ancient nymph]

sorry for asking but, what is nikita?

[ripe berry]

You don't know who Nikita is?

[ancient nymph]

aaaaaaaaa

[ripe berry]

Yeah

[ancient nymph]

thanks

[silver vine]

books: 1996

milk carton: 1997

[ripe berry]

If you read what's under the Croobian you can see 3/25/97

then below the other piece of Croobian is 3/30/97

[inner lichen]

AS: 200X

: )

that's fun

[ripe berry]

Telling us Act 1 is during March

[ancient nymph]

Dynamic pixels is doing HN2? in the demo it only appears Eerie guest studios

[inner lichen]

EGS has members from DP, but it isn't like, y'know, the company.

[ripe berry]

It's "Best Used"

[silver vine]

DP is Eerie guest

[ripe berry]

Then Nikita has said (if I remember right) that Act 2 is 2 months after Act 1

Putting Act 2 in May 1997

then Nikita outright said Act 3 is in 2017

[silver vine]

nothing

dates arent really that important in HN

[ripe berry]

Just help with making a timeline

[silver vine]

yes

dates are unimportant in HN franchise

[ripe berry]

Partly because they're retconned to hell and back and partly because for most things we only know the rough time range they happen in now

The books weren't made by him if that's what you're referring to

The AS is made by new writers

and the only time he implied a event to happen at a different time then the games have it it's only off by 1 year (1998)

Welp Books 1-3 weren't meant to be canon but were made canon

[ripe berry]

From what I've heard at least

They did retcon a lot of stuff

but not because they don't know the lore

[silver vine]

but they know the lore

and they retconned it for good

[ripe berry]

As the CEO of tinyBuild said "the story in the books was phenomenal, it jsut doesn't adapt well to animation -- and now that we know what happens in HN2 the series wraps around that through 18 episodes"

[ripe berry]

(Cite notation: #hello-neighbor message)

Let's see what they retconned:

The dates

Trinity's entire existence Pre-Book 2

Books 2-3

Yeah it's still BARELY in the canon

Only surviving because it's in Hello Neighbor: Diaries

or scenes from it are

But now Trinity is gone from it

Probably replaced with Ivan(Inventor)

Just like we assume with the Aaron Trilogy

The Inventor's Club's founding date

(It now exists Before AS Ep. 1 which is around the time Book 2 is meant to happen)

(Books have what I assume turns into the Inventor's Club be made in Book 3)

[silver vine]

but the events of books 4-6 does still happen

they didnt retconned that

[ripe berry]

Yes

Book 7 and GN2 still happen as nothing retcons them and they actually tie into HN2 apparently

GN1 is left completely untouched by the known retcons so we assume it's still canon

Same with HNHS, SN, and HE

In fact SN and HE are referenced in the clips from the AS we have

Acts 1/2 are DIRECTLY connected to AS

As AS is meant to tie together the Story of Acts 1/2 and HN2

Acts 3 and Finale are assumed to be canon still since why would only a section of HN1 be canon

[silver vine]

Alex also said that AS also wraps the story of HE

[ripe berry]

Forgot that

[red loom]

Wow the lore is getting crazy

[ripe berry]

and finally HND is canon because nothing outright makes it non-canon

HNSR is canon but that's because it's being made using the AS lore as far as we're aware of at least

same with HN2

[oblique drum]

hello neighbor diaries

[ancient nymph]

It's what I think but, ok, I erase it

The same reason as the buried secrets book, Ted wanted Aaron to have a friend with him

[ripe berry]

Ivan is Inventor

[ripe berry]

Why do you think I put that in parenthesis

[silver vine]

Ted took Aaron to the museum

its not tho

[ancient nymph]

Buried secrets it's what really happens in act 1

[silver vine]

tho it does have the wacky game mechanics from HN1

[round hatch]

cuz he killed mya, probably to prevent him from doing even more

actually

r you talking about nicky

[silver vine]

it has magnet gun, box stacking, robotic mannequins, etc.

[ripe berry]

mfw:

[round hatch]

if nicky then wasn't it cuz aaron was lonely

[ripe berry]

While Book 3 as it happens is no longer canon

[silver vine]

Ted kidnapped Nicky cuz he wanted Aaron to have some company

[ripe berry]

it does contain canon info

[silver vine]

the end of it still is

the end of book 3 is just HN1

exactly the same

only 3 differences

[ancient nymph]

More exactly ACT 1

[round hatch]

im so glad i never read the books except for book 1

[ripe berry]

and those are?

(Just seeing if you remember)

[silver vine]

I remember everything

how dare you doubt ME

how dare you doubt the Lore Master

the lift to Mya's room rises very slowly

[round hatch]

that's more sad than smart

[silver vine]

the room with the generator is normally open,you dont need to turn off power

its not

he just stumbles across the generator

everyone knows the final one

the most major one

[ripe berry]

It's the Ending of the Act right?

The Door doesn't have locks on it in the books

Referring to the one in the basement

[silver vine]

srsly

why

why is your memory THIS bad

[ripe berry]

because yes

[silver vine]

Nicky BREAKS the locks

AND the knob

book 3

end

[pale urchin]

Yet he doesn't do so in the game

[silver vine]

cuz, in the game they represent his fears

[ripe berry]

I didn't give enough of a frick when I read it to remember if it was no locks or Nicky breaking down the door somehow

[pale urchin]

Sounds a bit nonsense of how it can reflect on his fears

[silver vine]

each lock symbolizes each of his fears

[pale urchin]

I may not have remember understanding what happens in the books, but I don't think that should be the case

[silver vine]

supermarket, school, dark room

[silver vine]

it isnt a coincidence each of those fear rooms have the same color locks as that door

[ancient nymph]

For me the locks are just locks, no sentimental thing

[ripe berry]

I only remembered that Nicky got into the room and it was a office which connected to a fricking underground theme park

[ancient nymph]

In the books he has nightmares with a supermarket

[ripe berry]

They messed up and put a Yellow Lock instead of a Blue one I'm pretty sure

But to get to the room to get to the Supermarket there's a lock (unless you knew about the painting thing ahead of time)

[ancient nymph]

Why are we searching a reason to locks with colours and keys with same colours to indicate the lock?

[ripe berry]

Either that or there was meant to be a fear room that used the Yellow Lock that was cut at the last moment

Or they just couldn't be botered

No Factory wasn't behind a Yellow Lock

It was behind the Alpha 2 Basement Door thingie in the Water Room

That was it's lock

W A T E R

[ripe berry]

Please tinyCrow don't hate me for misremembering

[silver vine]

the room where you need to go in order to go to supermrket has a blue lock

the third floor

it has a blue lock

[ripe berry]

Yeah I already said that, suggested they just put the wrong color lock

[silver vine]

hmmm

stil

a lock is lock

[ripe berry]

In the Basement I mean

But they didn't intend for one to be able to do that

No it sure wasn't

If they intended it then they wouldn't have put in Fear Darkness

[silver vine]

the only fear room I enjoy the most is fear darkness

[pale urchin]

I enjoyed fear shop

[ripe berry]

I def did not enjoy Fear School

That took me TWO WEEKS to beat when I first got the game

[pale urchin]

I remember raging and raging, and one time, I was about to break my controller because of it, and then I completed it

That was back in 2018, when the good old me was a game rager

[silver vine]

I kinda enjoyed fear school

[silver vine]

wow

[silver vine]

I can sometimes complete it first try

provided I have the luck

[ripe berry]

Yeah

[ripe berry]

It's basically RNG the minigame

[silver vine]

Idk

[ripe berry]

At this point it's just used to describe anything that isn't controllable by the player in a game

[ripe berry]

(The term is mainly used by speedrunners)

The abbreviation itself stands for "Random Numbber Generation" or "Random Number Generator", hence how it's used

Anyways

I like how this went from talking about the lore to explaining what RNG means

Anyways back on topic

We were talking about the symbolism of the locks in Acts 1/3

on that door in the basement

Book 3 has it be a office and...

A underground Amusement Park

...

Welcome to Hello Neighbor Lore

Because why model something no one's gonna see

You see...

The thing is

They intended you to get OoB in Act 3

The other maps were built off the Act 3 map

Short for Out of Bounds

[ripe berry]

The Missing Script is not a unintended error

Those are purposefully programmed to teleport you to certain locations

For one they've existed for awhile now, if it was a unintended error then why would they keep it in Act 3

For 2, the one in Act 1 teleported you to a area with the address of 1003063.com before it got shut down

[ripe berry]

It still does, but 1003063.com no longer exists

Pretty sure they just didn't need it anymore

Again they prob made a mistake and made the lock yellow instead of blue

It was def meant to be blue

[ripe berry]

Been that way since Alpha 3, never changed it

Why did the Missing Journalist go missing

yes

[ripe berry]

We know he went missing shortly before the start of HN2

[ripe berry]

No more then a few days before

Either Guest or his Friend Mr.Otto(the Taxidermist) did something

Or how about:

The Guest Possessed Mr.Otto, making him kill his friend

Making it so both of them did something

[silver vine]

prob cuz he was on the verge of exposing the town's secrets

[thin wadi]

What if Quinton goes missing after hn2? 🤔

Like what if thats one of the endings, or the ending (if there aren't multiple endings)

Because Quinton is also a journalist trying to expose the towns secrets

[red loom]

Then HN3 save Quintin.

[thin wadi]

Speaking of a HN3...

They should make some new short DLCs or something where you play as different citizens that have had encounters with the neighbor or the guest or who have gone missing or discovered secrets

You could call it Hello Neighbor: Tales From The Neighborhood DLCs

And it would explain some HN lore too

Maybe one of the DLCs you play as a random child that was like late to school or something so you shortcut through the woods and encounter the guest, or maybe you can play as that journalist that went missing and you unlock a bunch of secrets but in the end you go missing.

[tulip wave]

that would be crazy

[low dove]

pls play with me secret nigbor

[chrome palm]

#secret-neighbor

[chrome sun]

What if the farmer injected other farmers plants with his injection and the injection would kill the plant giving him a monopoly over raven brooks food

[unborn light]

What if imbir the kitty rules the world and controls all our minds

[inner lichen]

So. Quentin being Norman.

Thoughts?

[pale urchin]

Idk

[lyric zephyr]

Norman is just his twin brother

There lore solved

[shell gull]

Doesn’t Work

1st. Norman Has Been In Raven Brooks Since Mr. Petersons Parents We’re, Quentin Has Only Been Around Since Nicky’s Disappearance.

2nd. Quentin Is A Journalist, While Norman Works On The Newsletters.

3rd. Honestly Don’t See How They Could Possibly Be Connected, And If They Are Then I’m Completely Wrong.

[strange lance]

You forgot that Norman

is a time traveler

or can at least see the future

as has the same clothes as Quentin

[shell gull]

That’s True But Still No Chance

[hybrid dome]

Small question: who is Norman ( I haven’t been keeping up with the story)

[lyric zephyr]

Guy from Books 4-6, really similar to Quentin appearance-wise apparently

Knows future details nobody would know yet

[hybrid dome]

Oh ok , thanks

[lyric zephyr]

Mentions “Narf” (Nicky’s nickname even tho he isn’t in town yet), and the Red Key (the HN1 basement door key)

[ember hawk]

Yowhat if the ppl our friendly neighbor kidnapped were ppl who unlocked the basement and escaped and everytime someone got out of his house in act 2 he learned from his mistakes so he got more advanced.
he could also lure his victims with the screams of the children. hey just a theory

[silver vine]

ah yes a 70 y/o man has a 30y/o twin

[crude dew]

you have no idea, how many threats I got for saying this back then lol
Norman was cooler. Quentin (the current) has a third personality now...

I mean, Norman's character started terribly, and then he was surprisingly well written
Ike was more or less saved by book 6 too..

[lyric zephyr]

Yep! Simple explanation

Ike, Quentin, and Norman are all brothers

Case closed I solved it all

[crude dew]

Retro solves the lore single handedly (gone wrong?)

would've been good if they were separate characters
I mean the Quentins. in the game

[lyric zephyr]

Yes

[silver vine]

they are separate characters tho

I srsly cant understand why ppl call Norman and Ike as Quentins

they've lived in RB their entire lives

Quentin just showed up to the town from a big city

[strange lance]

Ike is just Ike and he is DEAD

[silver vine]

yes

but ppl keep saying that hes Quentin

[strange lance]

Norman is exactly like Quentin, appearance wise and all that and can see the future, he may not be Quentin completely but they have to be related in some way.

Quentin is just dummy from city

[silver vine]

I dont think they could be related, but, anything can happen

but its just absurd when ppl say Ike and Norman are Quentins

[gleaming crown]

There is a new Hello Neighbor cartoon trailer coming in a matter of days. I hope the pilot is still going to be canon. I am both nervous and excited based off my impressions with the pilot!

[lyric zephyr]

The pilot isn’t canon, sadly. Alex Nichiporchik confirmed

Which I’m sure the new episodes will be on par

[gleaming crown]

I liked Maritza's design from the pilot. The new Maritza for the show looked more souless than her seeming upbeat and childish appearance. Maritza should be childish as that is what she is like the books. I am not prepared for whether or not the show will fit with my vision of the story being lighthearted, but also get dark midway through with Maritza being the person doing a lot of the action with speed, stealth and outsmarting the neighbor and getting away with close calls.

[ripe berry]

what confuses you?

The Rocket Event reveal the truth about the game in the lore

In that the entire game is just a imaginary plan to save Nicky and Aaron

Which ends up actually getting put to use in the upcoming game Hello Neighbor: Search and Rescue

the only other canon thing in SN are the trophies/treasures that you get when beating a event

(Other then potentially the Hat Trophy if the Man in the Hat is made non-canon by the Animated Series)

(He already only still exists in the lore due to SN so it's not that crazy to believe that)

[silver vine]

*to save Nicky

thats what the desc of SN and HNSR says

"to save their friend from the basement"

not friends

they dont care about Aaron

[neat locust]

Yo, I got a theory that might be controversial and get me curses! What if, the original game, didn't take place.

[thin wadi]

https://tenor.com/view/please-continue-cecily-strong-saturday-night-live-go-on-then-what-gif-25915912

[neat locust]

these 2 cutscenes are contradicting themselves.

[thin wadi]

Spoil Alert! 📢

You just spoiled HN2 cutscene bro!

[neat locust]

Sorry! Forgot to add the spoiler tag! Fixed it!

[thin wadi]

😩

I'm just gonna have to pretend I didn't see that...

[young kayak]

all spoilers should go in #closed-hn-spoilers

[neat locust]

sorry! I thought this should go here as it's discussing the lore! once again, im sorry!

[thin wadi]

Its fine, but now you know

[halcyon cliff]

When does hello neighbour 2 deluxe edition release

[thin wadi]

In a few hours

[scarlet pivot]

in book 6 when norman darby leaves the note for Aaron saying that "The red key will set you free when the time comes. Trust Narf." does that imply he used those weather luck thingys to predict the future or something

[tribal talon]

Guys can you please get me up to date with the books I don’t have them and I would really really appreciate if you give me a summery on what’s going on thankyou

[viscid portal]

Does the neighbor have a twin brother???? Please explain)

[ripe berry]

Things are chaotic in the prequels

We got cults using devices to give themselves good luck but the town bad luck

Basically modifying the odds of that particular event happening

Time Travelling News Reporters from the future that went missing in 1965 (oddly specific I know)

We got the Forest Protector Cult and the Neighbor's family ending up in what could only be described as a all-out war, Ike ends up dead, the Forest Protectors try to get Mya killed on the opening day of the Golden Apple Amusement Park but fail, ending up instead killing a 10-year old girl named Lucy Yi, Norman's revealed to be alive, he sends notes to the Banner to try to meet up with Aaron, S**t happens, Forest Protectors end up getting exposed and arrested, all before the HN1 Player Character's family even moves in

(This is just a basic summary of events)

[viscid portal]

Does the neighbor have a twin brother???? Please explain)

[split void]

My head hurts now

[ripe berry]

Then things are more straight forward

[harsh lance]

What the heck. I didn't even know there were HN books

[opal steeple]

i recommend them. genuinely enjoyed reading them

[delicate nimbus]

I think that Hello Guest is canon and the prequel of Hello Neighbor 2. Here is the theory:
I think that the quentin story of Hello Guest is the canon, because i think that when the detective catch Quentin, he is hired to invetigate peterson. Because the detective doesn't want to arouse suspicion, so he sends a journalist to do the investigation.
I know that Hello Guest is a prototype of Hello Neighbor 2, but i don't think that Tiny Build make public a pre aplha so well elaborated and then throw it away.

[torpid gulch]

Is act 3 of HN1 a metaphor? It seems like its about fear:

I feel like the colored key rooms are a general indication for like, life lessons, or getting over anxiety? Like the shopping one is Agoraphobia/being socially anxious. The closet room is being scared of the dark, or claustrophobia. And school is well, self explanatory. School is scary

I feel sorry for the people who try to decode the Finale

[torpid gulch]

youd be surprised on what tinybuild throws away

[tribal talon]

Hi

[viscid portal]

Hi,how are you?

[tribal talon]

I’m good how are you

[delicate nimbus]

I remember Tiny Build scrapped a minigame from act 3 where you had to play basketball with dummies. I wonder what fear that represents 🤣.

[ripe berry]

Act 3 is actually about Nicky(HN1 Player Character) getting over his trauma

Tho now that I think about it

It's both

[ripe berry]

We honestly got no clue

I mean there is HND but other then that we got nothing to say what happens to him

[torpid gulch]

obviously fear of being bad st shooting hoops

[torpid gulch]

have we gotten conformation on who this dude was?

looks like a bobs burgers character

[delicate nimbus]

I heard that he was an old friend of Theodore that is murdered in the forest. At leasts that tells the novels.

[hazy slate]

ike and that guy aren't the same person

[delicate nimbus]

What happened to both icons?

[hazy slate]

it's a bible reference

pretty sure that guy is meant to be Jesus

[torpid gulch]

i love that tb’s depiction of jesus is a bobs burgers character

[ripe berry]

Lemme get this straight, you think this looks like the guy in the picture

[delicate nimbus]

That's Quentin?

[bronze burrow]

No it’s Ike the neighbors old friend that was murdered.

[haughty lava]

Quentin is the neighbors friend /j

[ripe berry]

No

Ike and Quentin are two different characters

Ike dies in 1992

Quentin is still clearly alive in 200X when WtRB/HN2 take place

(and yes WtRB is AS, just chose to change the acronym here so that this person would more easily realize what I'm referring to (Hello Neighbor: Welcome to Raven Brooks)/(Hello Neighbor: The Animated Series))

[bronze burrow]

Quentin is not Ike stop believing the fandom.

Anyone have a theory for this picture because I’m stumped?

I was thinking they are injured because of the neighbor but now I’m not sure.

Yes

WTRB

It’s welcome to raven brooks

I feel like the show is going to be more confusing than I thought

That’s just something normal in HN

[ripe berry]

Yeah just because they got something on their chin doesn't mean anything

I mean Nicky has a spiral chin but he's not related to Theodore

[bronze burrow]

Why Delroy doing this

[ripe berry]

Bully Delroy

Yes

Confirmed here #hello-neighbor message

Just telling you now Inventor/Engineer is named Ivan (source:#hello-neighbor message)

Scout we don't even know the name of

💀

Bru

[bronze burrow]

Enzo is detective

Maritza is brave

It’s fine

[ripe berry]

Maritza is Brave

Even tho AS Pilot is non-canon, the Character Model Sheet for AS calls them Maritza meaning it's still canon

(+ Neighbor's Notebook calls Brave Maritza so...)

[bronze burrow]

I wonder if the show is just time loop or the time changing I don’t know how to explain it.

Yes

[ripe berry]

Mayak moment

[bronze burrow]

I mean that’s my theory

If not the whole story is stumped

Wait what happened

[ripe berry]

My theory was simply: The Neighbor tries to modify the past but fails to save his family, causing the Old Game Timeline (where the dates are April 1st 1996 for Diane's Death, May 3rd 1996 for Mya's death, March 1997 for Act 1, May 1997 for Act 2) so he tries harder and accidentally creates WtRB

I'm using "Old Game Timeline" to refer to the version presented in HN1/HNHS where the dates/years are different

[bronze burrow]

That’s is basically my theory except it adds more about Diane and Mya

[oblique drum]

hes a school bully😟

but dont worry he suddenly wants to save nicky later😃

[bronze burrow]

Okay

[ripe berry]

Which is different from Alpha Timeline which I use to refer to the Pre-Prototype to Alpha 1 timeline

[oblique drum]

also has anyone seen the 1 min vid of AS......

[ripe berry]

and Beta Timeline which I use to refer to the Beta 3 (+ Modkit files) timeline

[bronze burrow]

Yes

[ripe berry]

It doesn't

[bronze burrow]

It doesn’t there not canon

[ripe berry]

Alpha Timeline and Beta Timeline (+ any hints of lore from before Full Game from other builds) are non-canon

Ah yes

Coma Theory is "interesting"

[bronze burrow]

Btw anyone remember this thing

[ripe berry]

(Coma Theory is the most heavily implied theory)

[bronze burrow]

It’s from secret neighbor

[ripe berry]

Snow Stealer!

[bronze burrow]

This thing is still so mysterious

[ripe berry]

(That and the theory that it's purgatory)

[bronze burrow]

Yeah but it’s not the neighbor

[ripe berry]

It's the Snow Stealer

[bronze burrow]

I don’t think he’s in a coma

[ripe berry]

Purgatory Theory: Allow me to introduce myself

[bronze burrow]

I hear people say that quentin is in a coma

[ripe berry]

We're talking Alpha lore not HN2 lore

[bronze burrow]

Okay

[ripe berry]

Basically just Coma Theory but swap Coma with Purgatory

Basically a place where you're dead but (this is Christianity stuff here) you haven't yet gone to Heaven or Hell yet

yes, that theory

[bronze burrow]

I remember that theory

Because of the 666 at the bottom of his shoe

Yes

[ripe berry]

Both explain the Bible References in those builds

[bronze burrow]

Ngl I kinda want them to expand the alpha story

[ripe berry]

Yeah, maybe in a yt video or smth

[bronze burrow]

I guess they changed it because of how vague it was

[ripe berry]

Yeah

They created Beta Timeline (which also works with Alpha 2)

In which the Player is the Neighbor's Son moving back into his childhood home and getting a nightmare about his father

You think I have any clue

[bronze burrow]

The alpha 3 ending is so vague

[ripe berry]

It could literally mean anything

[bronze burrow]

Maybe the neighbor was the devils puppet ( MATPAT’s theory )

[ripe berry]

Maybe the Neighbor is crying over the death of a family member

[bronze burrow]

Or he had a best friend that died

Or his best friend is a demon now

They weren’t a thing yet

[ripe berry]

Diane, Mya, and Ike as characters weren't invented until the Full Game dropped

Ike wasn't even made until 2 years after the full game dropped

[latent cosmos]

Ike was a character introduced way later down the line

[bronze burrow]

They where leading up to bad blood in HG

[ripe berry]

Or sorry, not made, but he first appeared then

[bronze burrow]

Hello guest

[ripe berry]

Ike was meant to be Quentin but Quentin was never meant to be Ike

[bronze burrow]

I know

All I said was they where leading up to bad blood

Hello neighbor 2

[ripe berry]

Forest Protectors were meant to be the Guest but the Guest was never meant to be the Forest Protectors

[bronze burrow]

Exactly

I mean it’s 60 bucks

Okay

[ripe berry]

Gordon Cleave could've been meant to be MitH but MitH was probably never meant to be Gordon Cleave

[ripe berry]

(the reason I put could've been and probably is because we don't know anything about HG MitH)

Man in the Hat, the guy in that ending

[bronze burrow]

BRO!!!!!!!

Tinybuild new channel

[ripe berry]

AS Clip today it seems

I mean

WtRB clip

(still hard to get used to the new acronym)

[bronze burrow]

It’s kinda disappointing how they tried to make something 10 seconds so exciting but hey I guess it was worth it.

[bronze burrow]

Tbh I Love this picture

[ripe berry]

Ott

[bronze burrow]

I wonder how he’s going to play out in the show

[wicked heath]

theres some sort of energy between the two

[bronze burrow]

They did a good job with the animation for the series and the character models don’t look that bad in my opinion. I mean I love the old Maritza design but the other characters are good.

[bronze burrow]

I can’t believe I just now realized his hat was backwards.

What is happening in the school?

I mean I know it’s getting set on fire but why????

So many questions.

[ripe berry]

I feel like Mr.Peterson did it since if I remember correctly there's a image of him unlocking a door in the school

[bronze burrow]

This image

Why is he even in the school?

I have so much questions

[bronze burrow]

What if Nicky sees the neighbor in the school when Delroy is laying down during the fire and Nicky wakes him a up to say that he saw Mr Peterson but then he gets up and looks and he’s gone and then Delroy doesn’t believe him.

It could be the reason why Nicky looks like he sees someone or it could just be the fire idk

I mean he’s in the school

And I think people are going to looks at Nicky like he’s crazy for talking about Mr Peterson and he might say he started the fire and no one believes and people would think he’s taking it too far even the teachers.

Probably why there’s this image.

[viscid portal]

What is that???Why?

[tribal talon]

where is trinity moving in?

[strange lance]

House across the street from the neighbor's

Which replaced Nicky's housr

His house is now more to the right

[tribal talon]

alr that makes sense

[strange lance]

Mhm

[tribal talon]

and something big is gonna happen in ep 4

oh god

[haughty lava]

Maybe the kids did it because to escape maybe?

[lyric zephyr]

Leslie, the most important lore character

[pale urchin]

English please, apparently...

[urban fulcrum]

no

bruh why would they do that

[bronze burrow]

Wait why escape the school?

And I doubt they would set the school on fire

[pallid pond]

this image reminds me starting cutscene for an another game

[bronze burrow]

Like evil nun

[pallid pond]

yep

[bronze burrow]

I just now realized

[pallid pond]

why all raven brook dwellers alking a normal english in animations but using a distorted one for writing?

[pale urchin]

For the animation series, they have to write it all in English for new and old viewers to understand the whole point of the lore, while in the game, its just a game to play and do whatever you want

[ripe berry]

In game if you really want lore info you gotta work for it

Even something as simple as the town's name

[bronze burrow]

Beatrix canon?

[ripe berry]

Prob not

[bronze burrow]

I feel like they should bring back the old characters from the HN2 alphas that includes hello guest.

The show better explain why Leslie isn’t in the game.

[ripe berry]

My face when

[bronze burrow]

That might be the reason then again I don’t know if my theory would make to much sense.

[pale urchin]

The neighbor when

[ripe berry]

What's your theory?

[bronze burrow]

The time loop theory

[bronze burrow]

Basically what you said.

[haughty lava]

Because they like got locked in or something man I don't know

[bronze burrow]

But there frightened

Well nicky is in this pic

[ripe berry]

Theodore Masters Peterson moment

[haughty lava]

Maybe he regretted doing that after?

Actually he looks more confused than scared

[bronze burrow]

True

What if he’s confused about mr Peterson being in the school

[haughty lava]

Because

[bronze burrow]

I don’t know why he’s in the school

What value is there anyways

I mean children

[haughty lava]

And maybe Nicky is confused about that

[ripe berry]

Just gonna drop the fact that when the fire starts rising in the teaser trailer from December 1st Nicky's eyes widen

[bronze burrow]

What if the neighbors there

[haughty lava]

We need to know how the fire started

[bronze burrow]

I mean he’s in the school

[bronze burrow]

True

[haughty lava]

But most likely it's from Nicky

[ripe berry]

He could frame Nicky for burning the school

[bronze burrow]

How did nicky cause the fire

[haughty lava]

Maybe he found a lighter?

[bronze burrow]

That was basically my theory before

[bronze burrow]

Maybe

[haughty lava]

Or a cigarette

[ripe berry]

We know in the no longer canon Book 3 that Mr. Peterson ruined Nicky's life so that (my guess is) when he kidnapped Nicky, if he escaped the public wouldn't believe him

Or that simply no one would believe him

[bronze burrow]

I still believe all the books are canon but probably Mr Peterson went back in time

[ripe berry]

about Ted doing stuff to try to get Nicky into the house

[haughty lava]

The books aren't canon anymore I think

[ripe berry]

There's a flaw in your and my theory that Ted in GN2 acts like his attempts to travel back in time failed

[bronze burrow]

But book 1 is canon

[haughty lava]

Eh

[bronze burrow]

There’s no way

[ripe berry]

Hello Neighbor Diaries keeping Book 1 canon:

Reset Day being tied to HN2:

[bronze burrow]

That’s what I’m saying

[ripe berry]

Graphic Novel 2 being tied to HN2:

[haughty lava]

we need to know if the guest is going to be in the show

[ripe berry]

Reset Day referencing the Forest Protectors:

[bronze burrow]

What about hello engineer

[young kayak]

his eyes

[bronze burrow]

That one is all about time loops and stuff

[ripe berry]

Someone asked if the Guest was in WtRB and Alex | CEO's response was #hello-neighbor message

[haughty lava]

Hello engineer is not canon

[ripe berry]

☠️

[bronze burrow]

And it could probably be connected to the show

[ripe berry]

Explain the Inventor's Club being in WtRB with the car they built in HE drawn on a board behind them

[haughty lava]

So that's a maybe?

[ripe berry]

It means the Guest may make a cameo but never be fully shown onscreen

[haughty lava]

What...

[bronze burrow]

It is

[ripe berry]

Lemme go get the image

[haughty lava]

No I mean what's wtrb

[strange lance]

Hello Engineer is directly connected to Reset Day and GN2 so it is completely canon lol

[unkempt sleet]

Welcome to Raven Brooks

[haughty lava]

Ooooh

...

I forgor

[haughty lava]

What is reset day and gn2

I feel so dumb

[ripe berry]

This image to be exact

[bronze burrow]

This just makes me wonder what the story is in search and rescue

[ripe berry]

Oh wait you were confused about something else

Nvm then

[strange lance]

Reset day was the final novel book we got, GN2 is the 2nd graphic novel we got, the Raven Brooks disaster.

[haughty lava]

I don't read the books

[bronze burrow]

You need to

[haughty lava]

I don't have money

[bronze burrow]

Okay

[strange lance]

But yeah, Hello Engineer is conneted to both of them

[bronze burrow]

There’s summary’s

On YouTube

[haughty lava]

Ugh

[bronze burrow]

And the actual audiobooks

https://youtube.com/watch?v=g__0Fa0bljI&feature=share

https://youtube.com/watch?v=LlkIU4rcP-Y&feature=share

[ripe berry]

I remember seeing that some guy had uploaded the entirety of Graphic Novel 2 onto youtube

[bronze burrow]

https://youtube.com/watch?v=y913aMaGtr8&feature=share

https://youtube.com/watch?v=EsunR2Ho-Xs&feature=share

[strange lance]

Basically, GN2 is after HN2 and is where Ted is trying to flood the town cause he failed at time travel (which is what Hello Engineer is about) and GN2 is where he is possessed by the Guest. Reset Day takes place at the very end of the whole story, the town is surrounded by a brick wall and the whole town is on one big time loop (also from Hello Engineer) and it ends on a cliff hanger

[bronze burrow]

Oh yeah but he went through the pages fast

[haughty lava]

I'll look at it later

[bronze burrow]

Okay

Except this isn’t all the books tho

[haughty lava]

what..

[ripe berry]

There's Grave Mistakes, Puzzle Master, and Reset Day for regular novels that are missing there

[strange lance]

There are 9 books to read :D

[ripe berry]

and for Graphic Novels I never saw Graphic Novel 1 on youtube anywhere

[bronze burrow]

GN1

[haughty lava]

NoOoO

[bronze burrow]

It’s not on YouTube

[haughty lava]

💀

[ripe berry]

Just looked

[bronze burrow]

No

[ripe berry]

It seems like GN1 is on Youtube but the ytber split it into 3 parts

[haughty lava]

Whyy

[bronze burrow]

Oh wait I uploaded that i forgot

Lol

[ripe berry]

MFW you forgor

[haughty lava]

you little-

[strange lance]

🤨

[haughty lava]

So I guess I'm going to buy all of them

[strange lance]

Gonna be honest, HE's lore and story is the easiet to understand and my favorite (besides HS)

Mainly because throughout the game it constantly shows you what is going on

[bronze burrow]

True

[haughty lava]

I don't have a dumb stadia or whatever

And I don't have a pc

[bronze burrow]

It’s coming to steam

[ripe berry]

Except the game is missing a segment so they had to cram some of the lore into the 3rd level

That wasn't meant to be put there

Yep

[bronze burrow]

You can cloud game with stadia and steam but I don’t do it tho

[haughty lava]

What

[strange lance]

Yep!

[bronze burrow]

You can play it on mobile with stadia and steam

[strange lance]

Really hoping they add it back in the Steam release

[bronze burrow]

Cloud gaming

[haughty lava]

Uhh

How?

[bronze burrow]

You can do it on the stadia website

[haughty lava]

Really

[bronze burrow]

I’ve done it once

For like 5 minutes

[haughty lava]

Oh

[bronze burrow]

You can also do it on the app but it’s more difficult there

[haughty lava]

Well I hope they release it on consoles

[bronze burrow]

I think they will

[haughty lava]

Why don't you just look at the other messages I sent

[bronze burrow]

Btw hello neighbor bad blood books is a prequel to the first 3 books.

[haughty lava]

I know

Because

The daughter is still there

And not you know

6 six feet under

I'm starting to notice a pattern

In like most of the games you go after the neighbors son but when you like free him he just gets recaptured

And the loop starts again

[tame quartz]

the lore of HN isn't even a thing anymore

they deemed the books to not be apart of AS and hn2 game

and the books was all the lore we got.

It would be cool, in one update, that HN2 got added the Golden Apple Amusement Park

and the Guest could be the main star in that

as a reference to Hello Guest.

[wicked heath]

literally hn2 has several references to books

[bronze burrow]

No he means the animated series damaged book 3.

But I still think the books are canon all of them

I think the neighbor went back in time to be with his family again to have a happy life but he fails and creates WTRB and he’s trying to fix the time.

[tame quartz]

they changed it bro

the books aren't gonna continue anyway

they already said that

[bronze burrow]

I know

But I still think there all canon

[tame quartz]

they said they would change the lore (plot)

with the guest and neighbor

[bronze burrow]

What!

Noooo!!!

Why

[tame quartz]

so the guest might not be the neighbor anymore

we dont know

[bronze burrow]

He was never the neighbor

[tame quartz]

He was

well

[bronze burrow]

Kind of

[tame quartz]

he took the form of the neighbor

[bronze burrow]

Exactly

He’s a shapeshifter

[tame quartz]

no

well yes

but

[bronze burrow]

No

[tame quartz]

he only turns into memories

cause he takes memories

[bronze burrow]

True

But why did they get rid if the books

[tame quartz]

idk man

maybe it was too diverse

[bronze burrow]

That’s just sad

[tame quartz]

i really liked the new sequel though

Reset Day

[bronze burrow]

Me too

[tame quartz]

it involved the guest

[bronze burrow]

That’s why I liked the book

But the Aaron trilogy is my favorite tho

[tame quartz]

WEll

well

that trilogy was sorta confusing

[bronze burrow]

At least tho’s are canon and book 1

[tame quartz]

but i liked the action

[bronze burrow]

True

[tame quartz]

the fortune machine thing was related to the weather

[bronze burrow]

I mean it made sense at the end

[tame quartz]

which was related to aaron and mya's grandparents

which was related to the neighbor

who kept getting it stolen

by his children AND his enemies

[bronze burrow]

Tho’s books really made me think HG was canon

[tame quartz]

yeah

[bronze burrow]

I wish it was canon

[tame quartz]

what i really want

is for the amusement park to be in HN2

[bronze burrow]

Yes

[tame quartz]

along with the guest patrolling it

cause that would be perfect

[bronze burrow]

I expected them to put mayak in HN2

[tame quartz]

same

you know in the beta

[bronze burrow]

I mean they might they did say future updates

[tame quartz]

they sneak peaked the amusement park

[bronze burrow]

Yeah

[tame quartz]

the ferris wheel

so maybe it might happen

[bronze burrow]

So it might be in a future update