lore-discussion

[loud tartan]

coma

scequence

[crude dew]

I just said
it's for the scene

where tf do you guys get this coma thing from

comic above

[ripe berry]

The Car Crash thing

[loud tartan]

i am getting it from

my mind

[ripe berry]

That AND https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i6nBPauHc0g...

[strange lance]

Also again the devs gave story hints back then

[loud tartan]

that music is so 🤌

[ripe berry]

I'm pretty sure we found the original source of the song

[loud tartan]

god what is that

[loud tartan]

it's "Le veau d'or'

[crude dew]

should I say it, or you know what I'm gonna say?
for the music title

"prototype"

[loud tartan]

https://tenor.com/view/poggers-pog-hi-hello-funny-gif-19532381

[crude dew]

nah
would live there 10/10

[ripe berry]

It's music from a musical version of FAUST right?

Or smth like that

[crude dew]

Faust has opera versions, so basically, yeah

exactly

[loud tartan]

good music that have rythm for a teaser of a game

[crude dew]

best song in the entire Faust tragedy tbh
it's 5+ hours long btw. I mean, the tragedy itself

[ripe berry]

Ok now what is the importance of-

to Alpha Lore I mean

[crude dew]

what's that brick there?

[loud tartan]

don't you love when "pre alpha player"

[crude dew]

yet another legend.

[ripe berry]

(It's Alpha 1 Player Model with a brick for some reason btw)

(Alpha 1 player model is never used because as you can tell it is incomplete)

I mean it's a step up from only having a different head model

[loud tartan]

and

hands

[ripe berry]

Pre-Alpha Model

It's also used in Pre-Alpha

Is there anything left unsolved in Alpha Lore?

[crude dew]

pretty much stuff

[strange lance]

I guess the rest of the players bad past

Oh, why the devil has a bomb

That's it

[hazy slate]

where was this?

[strange lance]

On the alpha 1 house layout, there's a room labeled "fat man" which is a big bomb, and is real irl

[hazy slate]

ohh

[ripe berry]

Translate this to see

[solid dew]

it was not a bomb
it was a literal fat man

[fast marten]

hey you hungry home invader!

[median stirrup]

I was really confused about this

But yeah it wouldn't make sense for it to be a bomb

I like how the entire layout is in russian and then there's like 5 random words in english

[uncut mulch]

Hi

[ripe berry]

Hello Saul Goodman from Breaking Bad

[eternal mica]

is this hn2 alpha 1.5 map

[strange lance]

That's the HN1 alpha 1 house

[thin wadi]

Is #nog-simming canon?

Ok

[unique pumice]

The guest is the coolest character

[polar epoch]

Hello

Will hello neighbor 3 be their

[tribal talon]

We don’t know

Maybe not

Technically already is a trilogy. Hello neighbor hide and seek, Hello neighbor, Hello neighbor 2. We solve the missing kids case in hello neighbor 2 so there won’t be a need for a HN3. Unless they confirm it

Ik the games aren’t in order of release. I put them in chronological order

[polar epoch]

What about 8th book as hello neighbor 3

[chrome palm]

There is no confirmation for more books or hello neighbor three

I don’t think that there will be a hello neighbor three

[valid dock]

true but spinoffs games

[chrome palm]

I wasn’t talking about spinoffs

I was talking about hello neighbor three, bc someone was asking about it

[lyric zephyr]

Yeah, it's not canon to the main story

[candid harness]

It's not canon to alpha 2

It's just a purely fun self contained story

[sick meteor]

hello

[tribal talon]

Hello all

I haven't Really been into hn since the first games release

Whats the story as of rn

[hazy slate]

still needs to be a book 8 though

[tribal talon]

Hello whats the lore of guest? Is it alien or what it is?

[lyric zephyr]

We don't know exactly yet

[thin wadi]

Some theorize it could be Aaron

Or the neighbor himself

(Even though thats impossible)

[neat trellis]

Even though they are kinda similar they arent the same person for sure

[gritty python]

how the guest being a kid is more possible than he being the neighbor?

[neat trellis]

I dont think neither

It could be a new character for all we know

[strange lance]

Guest is a entity, Guest takes things people don't deserve, he can enter people's minds, he can shapeshift, he can turn into wavy goop stuff, he possesess the neighbor and controls him (that's when the neighbor starts "wearing the costume" when it's not his choice)

[gritty python]

as far as i know, at first he's just the weird creature that don't really is someone until the raven brooks disaster

[gritty python]

yeah, that's it

[neat trellis]

Raven brooks disaster?

[gritty python]

yes

[neat trellis]

Damn i really need to read the books and lore

Whats the disaster about?

[gritty python]

it's about two people that needs to evacuate the city because of a really bad storm

that ends up being more than just a storm

[gritty python]

actually everyone needs to evacuate, but the focus is on them

[sick meteor]

i think it is aaron

it fits the story and timeline to my knowledge

[gritty python]

it doesn't because the guest appears in hello neighbor 2

at the same time as aaron being 12-13

[sick meteor]

oops

what do we all think of the hello neighbor animated series lore wise

[gritty python]

i think someone made a document and posted here showing what he thinks will be the next animated series episodes

that's all we have, i think

[sick meteor]

there is a animated trailer that shows trinity being thrown into the basment

and early on you see her grave

it could be a dream tho

[gritty python]

it was so dramatic that i think it was just kid's imagination lol

[sick meteor]

yeah

[gritty python]

i can even hear enzo freaking out because of her disappearance

[sick meteor]

i do think trinity ends up captured

[gritty python]

me too

[sick meteor]

one thing i remember is a cat cosmetic in secret neighbor that now belongs to mr peterson in hello neighbor

the cosmetic was for the leader

just a thought

[neat trellis]

So the disaster was the big storm?

[gritty python]

what cosmetic?

[gritty python]

yeah

[sick meteor]

like a bag that has the cat in it

[gritty python]

it belongs to mr peterson in hn?

[sick meteor]

its in his back garden with a piece of the map

[bleak spear]

That’s not his cat, in the full game imbir is gonna be near/in the bakery based on the new teasers

[valid dock]

ok good but then i have a theory a big imbir is in a nightmare

[bleak spear]

Big imbir?

[thin wadi]

No Aaron after he grew up a little

[gritty python]

i dont really get it

could you explain?

[thin wadi]

I don't get it either... I'm just saying I've seen some people theorize that

This theory could actually work for hello neighbor 2 alpha 1 or alpha 1.5

But not for the actual Canon game

[neat trellis]

It could just be a new character

[hazy slate]

Time for extreme speculation with little evidence

I find it really odd that the trick or treaters still have missing posters this late

If they are place holders why are they not gone?

It's not even a month before release

[strange lance]

Plus their costumes in the museum

Except guest kid

And Alien girl reference in HE

They're just there

[hazy slate]

Are they perhaps the guest's first victims?

[median stirrup]

||it literally means nothing||

[candid harness]

Unless it does

[hazy slate]

||It means the alpha kids aren't gone, at least to some degree.||

||We might not ever find them in game||

||In the beta, yes.||

[candid harness]

Missing journalist was also never elaborated on so it's probably part of a mystery that isn't in the game yet

(This is just my theory)

[median stirrup]

you'd think it'd be a part of Otto's story but oh well

gotta make the characters bland!

[candid harness]

Unless they add more to their cases

[median stirrup]

so far they had no personality other than protecting a secret and it's all the same secret

[hazy slate]

Put the spoiler tag on this

[candid harness]

We don't know that
Looking at their houses they seem to have a lot of personality

[median stirrup]

how is it a spoiler

[hazy slate]

I think they are gonna add more characters, cases, etc. in post launch updates.

[candid harness]

Yeah same

[hazy slate]

Just do it, It kinda spoils the story, even if it doesn't say exactly ||what the secret is||

[median stirrup]

it's my deduction

it's not a spoiler

I might as well be talking about the beta for all you know

[hazy slate]

You're clearly not.

[hazy slate]

Possibly also the halloween kids case

[candid harness]

Yeah

It seems like it's being teased a little in the museum

[hazy slate]

Perhaps their costumes are there for like

a crime exhibit

or something

[median stirrup]

except for Keith because his only personality is
cop
like donut
👍

[steady escarp]

Yeah tim cool

[silver vine]

they are not placeholders

who said that they were placeholders?

[silver vine]

context(for whoever cant get the joke): Keith looks like Tim Lockwood from Cloudy meat ball movie

[pale galleon]

Haha

Bb

[frosty wedge]

Why is it that Quentin's card on his neck spelled perfectly but everything else in the game not?

[tribal talon]

There’s a setting in the game to make everything English

[frosty wedge]

Oh lol but still

[tribal talon]

No really ther is

[frosty wedge]

Without that setting only Quentin's card is not misspelled

Which is weird since that's the default setting

[dark vector]

There literally isnt, what 💀

[ripe berry]

They actually fixed this in the Steam Demo

[frosty wedge]

Oh sad

[hazy slate]

not really

[ripe berry]

(and by fixed this I mean made the Text Jumbled up like pretty much every other piece of text in the games)

[tribal talon]

Bro I was joking

The game is Russian

Look it up

[tribal talon]

Does anyone have fan stories

For hello neighbour

I’m kinda bored lol

Did the neighbour kidnap everyone

[lyric zephyr]

I made a fanfic a while back

[lyric zephyr]

Nope, just Nicky and Aaron

and technically Regina but that was partially on accident but still he did kidnap her

[shell gull]

Mine is Aaron escaped the basement but then changed his identity went crazy became a Forest Protector and burned down Raven brooks

Don’t ask how I came up with that

[crude dew]

• coughs in 300+ pages *
  most of them are just random fics about characters so idk if ppl from here would like them or not.

[ripe berry]

I mean Aaron DID (or at least is implied to have) burned down Mr.Peterson's house in Game Lore

and the Forest Protector thing probably came from one of the main theories for HN2 Alpha 1 of Aaron being the Guest

So it doesn't sound THAT far out there

[solid dew]

when and what and how was it implied that aaron burned down the peterson house

and if you say set 3 then i'm leaving

[median stirrup]

me when the house actually didn't burn down

[solid dew]

(thank you reset day very cool)

[candid harness]

Nikita literally saying H&S would answer who burned the house down:

And also heavily implying the game was more than just a prequel

[solid dew]

and of course i've never heard this mentioned

where'd he say it

[candid harness]

I'm pretty sure it was in a server that I'm not in anymore, but I've known about this for a while

I know this sounds like a blatant lie and I'm not going to convince you otherwise

[solid dew]

the private one?

[candid harness]

Yeah

[solid dew]

of course
well fair enough then

it'd still be cool to see if they actually follow up on that any further in any books or games

[median stirrup]

(but they don't)

unless AS
but uh
no I don't think so

[ripe berry]

That was what I meant

It's either Aaron, Mr.Peterson, or Nicky who could've done it since they're the only characters who survive HNHS who are in that game

[median stirrup]

how or why would Nicky do it

[ripe berry]

and most of us agree that Nicky's cameo in Stage 1 isn't canon/isn't all that important

[median stirrup]

it would be if books didn't change stuff

[ripe berry]

I know but still

Even if it's canon again due to AS, as you said it'd make no sense for Nicky to burn down Ted's House

[median stirrup]

it can't be canon anyway because then the park wouldn't exist

[ripe berry]

Yeah

Leaving only Ted and Aaron to burn down the House, making it basically a 50/50 chance that Aaron was meant to burn down the house

+in Game Lore Ted moved to the city sometime between Acts 2-3

[median stirrup]

what

no

[ripe berry]

Or at least they put him there as a Easter Egg for some reason (tbh probably a remnant of a Old Plotline they forgot to remove)

[median stirrup]

they literally moved him for the release

it's an easter egg

[solid dew]

metaphor for ted still haunting nicky every day for 20 years..

[ripe berry]

Ah yes, forgot about that theory

[ripe berry]

But still it's def more likely that Aaron would burn down Ted's house then that Mr. Peterson would

Not saying it's confirmed to be Aaron, but it'd just make more sense

(and I haven't even mentioned Stage 3 yet- (and I won't))

Let's just agree Stage 3 isn't as important to Game Lore as tinyCrow would have you believe

It doesn't imply Aaron burnt down Ted's house

[lyric zephyr]

Aaron is still the most likely candidate

Either Aaron or the Forest Protector Cult

Ted if he was gonna burn down his house would’ve done it before the cops showed up

[ripe berry]

I know I'm just saying I don't want to see people use Stage 3 as "evidence"

[weak nest]

Wsp

[ripe berry]

Yeah

[weak nest]

Who's Ted?

[ripe berry]

Ted is a nickname of Theodore, which is the Neighbor's first name

[lyric zephyr]

Theodore Masters Peterson

[weak nest]

Alr

[ripe berry]

Yeah him

[weak nest]

I think that the pictures of the neighbour and his friend from the pre-alpha are important

What are ur thoughts

[lyric zephyr]

I really don’t think so

[ripe berry]

Yeah they are... to Alpha Lore

[weak nest]

In what way

[lyric zephyr]

It’s an old art asset, and the Neighbor’s “friend” I’m pretty sure is the lord Jesus Christ himself in Elena’s artstyle lol

[weak nest]

Ahh alr

What's ur fav game from the franchise

[lyric zephyr]

That’s a tricky one

[candid harness]

And in the context that Aaron is literally a fire monster in the third set it's obvious who it is

[lyric zephyr]

I’d say favorite game from the series would be HG/HN2? Replay-ability

[weak nest]

I reckon alpha 2 was rly good or full game alpha 1

Honestly struggled with hello guest

[ripe berry]

Not counting games that aren't out yet (HN2, HND, VR) I'd say honestly Secret Neighbor

[weak nest]

Ye underrated

Wb ur least favourite

Alpha or even game

[ripe berry]

From a Gameplay perspective I'd say HNHS

[weak nest]

Which ones that lol

[ripe berry]

But from a Lore perspective then it's Hello Engineer

[ripe berry]

the prequel game

[weak nest]

Haven't heard of that

Is it a new-ish game

[ripe berry]

Bruh you haven't heard of Hello Neighbor Hide and Seek?

Or maybe because I didn't put a "a" you got confused

[weak nest]

Oh ye I've heard of that lmao

That game took me weeks to beat

Who do u think is quentin?

People thinks its aaron

[ripe berry]

Quentin is a new character as faras we're aware

but he's related to a old character

hence why his last is (or at least WAS) somewhat important

[weak nest]

And who's that old character

[ripe berry]

We don't know

[weak nest]

Ahh

Also at the end of the beta did quentin get captured?

[ripe berry]

But the main 3 people seem to go to are Norman Darby (Description nearly Identical), Ike Gershowitz (The Ike Quentin thing), or Theodore Peterson (Diane's Phonebook has a Q. Peterson in Book 3)

[ripe berry]

It's most likely a yes

[weak nest]

No idea who the first 2 are tbh

[ripe berry]

They appear in the Hello Neighbor Books Bad Blood (Ike), Grave Mistakes (Ike (Dead), Norman Darby (Mentioned)), and Puzzle Master (Norman Darby)

[weak nest]

Ahh also who's that man in the mask in the hn2 trailer

Sitting on the park bench

[ripe berry]

MitH? He's most likely scrapped

(yes he has no official name)

[weak nest]

Ahh

And alsowhos behind the guest costume

I've got a lot of questions as I'm revisiting the franchise after a whilr

[ripe berry]

(We just call him by his filename from HG/HN2 Alpha of "Man in the Hat")

[weak nest]

Is there anybody speculated to be behind it

[ripe berry]

Guest is a supernatural creature as shown by GN2

[ripe berry]

(We often abbreviate it to MitH)

[weak nest]

Ahhh so the man in the trailer

[ripe berry]

It can possess people as shown in that book's ending

[weak nest]

Sitting on the bench

[ripe berry]

But there is no one behind the mask

[weak nest]

Ahh okay

Also why is the neighbour in the museum in hn2 and why was the guest scrapped through the while beta other than the intro

[ripe berry]

We assume the Guest will play a more important role in final game

Neighbor is in the Museum because... (let me get the clip real quick)

[weak nest]

Okay

[ripe berry]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ogjq1s1Fe

The Police show up at Ted's House after Act 2

Ted has to flee

[weak nest]

Ahh

Also the time period is quit confusing

As at the end of hn1 nicki is an adult but at the end of hn2s beta Aaron is still a kid

[ripe berry]

Where better to go then a (as found in the Basement in the Steam Demo barely visible) Closed Museum

[ripe berry]

HN2 happens after Act 2 but before Act 3

[weak nest]

Ahh so is it likely we will see the return of nicki

Also how do the alphas play into this timeline and who do we play as in them

[ripe berry]

You mean the HN1 Alphas?

Those are their own separate continuity

[weak nest]

So are they important in the timeliness and lore

[ripe berry]

No

[weak nest]

Alr

[ripe berry]

Just like how #nog-simming is not canon to the lore despite establishing names

(Leslie as the skinny cop, Nielsen as the fatter cop)

[weak nest]

Okay

Is the guest present in any of the previous alphas

Or is he just introduced in hello guest

[ripe berry]

Guest is first introduced in Hello Guest Prototype

[weak nest]

Ahh yes accessed by the Easter egg in sn

[ripe berry]

It was later added to Secret Neighbor in a recent update

[weak nest]

Realistically are the rescue squad present anymore

[ripe berry]

It also made a cameo in Hello Neighbor Nicky's Diaries (The Content Expansion Test Build, not the upcoming game)

[weak nest]

As since nicking is our of the picture at this moment

[ripe berry]

Rescue Squad are still VERY important to the lore

[weak nest]

In what way

[ripe berry]

Let's see, Leader, Detective, and Brave are characters in the Books (Trinity, Enzo, and Maritza respectively)

[weak nest]

Ahh okay

[ripe berry]

They appear/are implied to exist in Hello Engineer (the ones only implied to exist are Bagger and Scout)

[weak nest]

Also do u think we will ever see nicki again in a hn game

[ripe berry]

They'll all appear in the Animated Series/Cartoon when it drops in December

[weak nest]

Ahh okay

Since hn2 is set in between alpha 2 and 3 does the alpha 3 house have any importance as wasn't it revealed later that it was all just a dream

[ripe berry]

However this is a controversial thing as AS retcons pretty much everything that come before

[ripe berry]

Act 3 is still important

It's not "just a dream", Nikita(the creator of HN) said that nothing in HN was ever just a dream

[weak nest]

Ahh

[ripe berry]

It's a representation of Nicky overcoming his trauma

[weak nest]

Also the reality is that the original mystery of what was in the neighbours basement is solved right? As we know

[ripe berry]

Yes

The one in the Basement is Aaron

[weak nest]

Also does the alpha 1 ending have anything to do with this as u basically get put in a grave

[ripe berry]

It's a part of a separate lore from the Full Game onwards lore

[weak nest]

And can u help me understand that

Bcos that rly jumbled atm

[ripe berry]

(Trinity is removed from Books 4-6 + Book 1 (most likely replaced with Ivan(Inventor), Books 2-3 are retconned out of the timeline, and game lore seems to be more important now)

[ripe berry]

Understand what?

[weak nest]

Pre full release lore

[ripe berry]

Basically it's that you're in a coma of some kind

With the Neighbor being the Devil

[weak nest]

Who's in a coma

[ripe berry]

and the Basement being Heaven

[ripe berry]

We don't have a name but they're the Player Character here

Alpha 2/Beta 3 Lore is different (and probably it's own separate thing)

[weak nest]

Ahh

[ripe berry]

Where basically you(no name) are the Neighbor's Son moving into your old house

[weak nest]

Ahh

[ripe berry]

or to be more accurate your dad's old house

and you have some kind of nightmare about him

[weak nest]

Oh

Bit the ending of the full release is the neighbour locked in by some sort of shadow monster

[ripe berry]

Alpha 3-Beta 2 Lore is not clear enough to define it in any sort of way

[weak nest]

In some random house

[ripe berry]

That is a representation of how the Neighbor could never get over his fears (fears in HN are represented by the Shadow Guy/(the files call it)The Thing

[weak nest]

So when nicki sees the "thing" lurking near the neighbours broken house is that some sort of reminansce

[ripe berry]

yes

He's remembering the trauma he had at that house

[weak nest]

And if hn2 is set in between 2 and 3 wouldn't his house still be there

As in current hn2 it's just under investigation and not destroyed

[ripe berry]

The status of if Ted's House is still burned down or not in current lore is unknown

[weak nest]

And sl how the act 3 house brought about

[ripe berry]

As Reset Day (which we assume to be 2021, about 5 years after Act 3) has the House intact but heavily vandalized

[ripe berry]

Yes, Nikita said HNHS was going to reveal who burned it down

[weak nest]

Ahh

Is it possible for Aaron to still be alive

[ripe berry]

Also HN2 is the same day as Act 2

[ripe berry]

Yes

[weak nest]

Rly

[ripe berry]

It only makes sense

As Nicky is still counted as Missing but the Cops show up to Ted's House

[weak nest]

But then that means nicki is still in the house at that time

[ripe berry]

We don't know what time of day Act 2 happens in

[weak nest]

Or had he escaped by that point

[ripe berry]

Most likely he escaped as in the Beta if you go up to the Green House where his house is meant to be before sleeping it updates the pinboard showing the case is solved

[weak nest]

Also why is the house so different from act 2

[ripe berry]

Act 2 is a distorted memory

[weak nest]

Ah

Okay and why are all of the other characters in hn2 covering for the neighbour

[ripe berry]

Who said they are?

[weak nest]

Well they are storing keys and animal heads for the nighbour to hide

Playing into his plan

[ripe berry]

Beta is not fully canon, we can assume some things from it will remain, but not everything is canon

[weak nest]

Ah

[ripe berry]

Keith Nielsen in particular has 0 clue

[weak nest]

Who's that?

[ripe berry]

.

[weak nest]

Ahh okay

[ripe berry]

Nielsen is Keith's last name

[weak nest]

Also whens hello guest set and who do we play as in that

[ripe berry]

Hello Guest is no longer canon but it'd happen during HN2 if it was

We play as Quentin just like in HN2

[weak nest]

Hah

What about that other female character

We could play as for some time

[ripe berry]

Heck Hello Guest IS Hello Neighbor 2

or a early version of it at least

[ripe berry]

Beatrix?

[weak nest]

Yes

Yes

[ripe berry]

She was made specifically for Hello Guest

She's scrapped

[weak nest]

Okay

[ripe berry]

Only still in the files as some of the fundamental code relies on her being in the game to work properly

[weak nest]

Okay

Which is the most important tool in hn would you say

[ripe berry]

Out of all of them?

[weak nest]

Yes

[ripe berry]

I'd say the one that's most useful is the Crowbar

as the Lockpick (in HN1) can only open one door in Act 1 and was removed from the Xbox edition of Act 3

All while the Crowbar has had a use in the 2nd and 3rd Acts of HN1

and will be useful in HN2

[weak nest]

What can you use the crowbar for in act 1 of the full release

[ripe berry]

Again Act 1 is the only Act where it doesn't have a use

It's only there for consistency sake

[weak nest]

Ahh

Also in alpha 3 how do you get the yellow and green keys

[ripe berry]

in Alpha 3 or Act 3?

[weak nest]

Alpha 3

[ripe berry]

(I get confused bc you call Acts Alphas for some reason)

[weak nest]

Lol sorry

[ripe berry]

(But how'd I even get confused here Alpha 3 has no Green Key)

[weak nest]

Yes I'm pretty sure it does

Next to the staircase behind the several boxes

[ripe berry]

It does not

Dang it here we go again with one of us getting confused bc the other calls a Act a Alpha

[weak nest]

Lol

[ripe berry]

Or thinks I mean Act when I mean Alpha

[weak nest]

Oh I'm talking about alpha 3

The most hated alpha

[ripe berry]

ALPHA 3 (the one stuck at Nighttime) has no Green Key as Fear Rooms weren't implemented until Alpha 4

[weak nest]

Okay wb the yellow jey

Key

[ripe berry]

It's in a Box on the ceiling above the front entrance if I remember right

[weak nest]

Ahh

Have you played every version of every game

[ripe berry]

I mainly play on Xbox so no I have not

[weak nest]

Ahh okay

[ripe berry]

I've only played the Full Releases (except for HN2) so I'm having to rely on my memory of watching playthroughs of them for info from them

[weak nest]

Ahh

Also does the shark tank from act 2 and alpha 1 have any significance

[ripe berry]

The Shark itself in HN Lore is just a old toy that doesn't have much lore significance

(The Bear Trap is most likely either fake or added on by Mr.Peterson)

and since it's distorted the room doesn't even actually exist

[weak nest]

Okay and what about the bear doll seen in all alphas of the game

[ripe berry]

also it has no significance in Alpha Lore either

[ripe berry]

Unknown Significance in Alphas 2-4, represents a child (presumably the player's) in Alpha 1

[weak nest]

Ahh and ur sure the artwork for the pre-alpha has no significance

[ripe berry]

The one of the Neighbor and someone else?

I didn't say it had no significance

I said it makes Alpha Lore Neighbor the Devil

[weak nest]

Sorry the other guy did

Alr

[ripe berry]

And Retro was referring to Full Game onwards lore (at least I'm pretty sure that was what he was referring to)

Also Fun Fact: The Neighbor does actually have a friend (or did before his death)

It's the Ike Gershowitz guy I mentioned when you asked about who Quentin is

[weak nest]

Ahh

Is it known how the neighbours friend died

[ripe berry]

Yes

Brutally shoved into a Candy Vat at the Golden Apple Corporation Factory for the peppermint flavor

[weak nest]

By who?

[ripe berry]

(yes the books are THAT dark)

[ripe berry]

A group of cultists who have no relation to the Guest that dress up like this for their rituals (minus the hat, only one of them wears a hat)

[weak nest]

Could it be seen as the guy who was wearing that hat on the bench near the park in the hn2 trailer?

Kinda looks like him

[ripe berry]

While the few descriptions of the actual man is similar there's one detail that makes this impossible

at the end of Puzzle Master he is arrested for murdering Ike along with several other of the cultists

[weak nest]

Who's ike again

[ripe berry]

and also for terrorizing Raven Brooks

[ripe berry]

The Neighbor's friend

[weak nest]

Ahh okay

Is it possible he is escaped

[ripe berry]

Just because I don't say his last name doesn't mean it's a different person (unless I specify that it is)

[weak nest]

Suggesting why he covered his face with the newspapers when the cops passed in the trailer

[ripe berry]

Remember MitH is scrapped from HN2

[weak nest]

Oh yes

[ripe berry]

The only thing keeping him canon is a event in SN

[weak nest]

Rly what is it?

[ripe berry]

But even then we don't a canonicity of said event

[weak nest]

Oh

[ripe berry]

Or the treasure/trophy connected to it

[weak nest]

Ahhh

What is the significance of the golden apple in hn btw

[ripe berry]

I mentioned here it's a Candy in Raven Brooks

[lyric zephyr]

And it’s the name of the Amusement Park

[weak nest]

Ahh

[lyric zephyr]

Peterson made the park for the Golden Apple Candy Corporation

[ripe berry]

Or at least WAS until the Lucy Yi incident at the Amusement Park from HG (yes it's canon as it's in the Books, Secret Neighbor, and Hello Engineer)

[weak nest]

Ahh but then why is quentin acting ad a guard there in hg

[weak nest]

Urmm who's thst

That

[lyric zephyr]

He’s a hell of an engineer but his engineering has also killed like 6 people across multiple states and even countries

[ripe berry]

A young girl who died at the park on (Depending on if you're using Missing Pieces or Grave Mistakes) 2 weeks or it's opening day

[lyric zephyr]

Lucy Yi was a member of the Golden Apple Young/Junior Inventors Club along with Maritza Esposito and Mya Peterson

All best friends

[weak nest]

Ahh

Mys Petersone is confirmed Dead now right

[ripe berry]

Mya Peterson was always confirmed to be dead

HNHS Stage 5 ending

[weak nest]

Wdym by stage 5

[ripe berry]

HNHS has 5 "Stages" (what this game calls Acts)

At the end of the 5th Stage Mya is pushed off a roof by Aaron

[weak nest]

Ahh

[lyric zephyr]

So far his rides have killed
Joe (The older brother of the main character of Hello Neighbor Graphic Novel #1, The Secrets of Bosco Bay) flung from his seat because a turn was too sharp.
4 unnamed people drowned on a water log ride after it flipped over in a park he designed in Germany.
And Lucy Yi died after being flung from the ride and died on impact!

[lyric zephyr]

Way to go, Ted!

[ripe berry]

Where, as shown by the game's credits scene (+ the hidden Dlub Yaits sequence from HN1), she's died

[ripe berry]

yeah

[weak nest]

Wow

So questin has killed many people

[lyric zephyr]

Quentin hasn’t

[ripe berry]

Ted has

[lyric zephyr]

Mr Peterson has

[weak nest]

He did

On purpose?

[ripe berry]

(and he'll kill even more in the Animated Series)

[weak nest]

Wow

[lyric zephyr]

Mr Peterson didn’t intentionally ruin his rides

[ripe berry]

The ones on his rides no

The ones in Animated Series yes

[weak nest]

Who has je killed intentionally

[lyric zephyr]

So far nobody

AS may change that

[ripe berry]

We don't have Animated Series yet so we dunno

[weak nest]

Ye

[lyric zephyr]

To reference Mr Peterson in books 1-3
He complains about the safety features on the rides “removing the thrill” and “slowing them down”

[ripe berry]

But he does kill a Store Clerk in a script segment we have

for Animated Series

[weak nest]

Why and how

[lyric zephyr]

So while not intentional he’s a great engineer but does NOT care for safety

[weak nest]

Ahh

[lyric zephyr]

Well they may not be dead! But as far as we know, Trinity assumes they are and they’re bleeding from the head

[weak nest]

Would you argue that the guest is the main antagonist or the neighbour

[ripe berry]

Neighbor

[lyric zephyr]

The Neighbor is the main antagonist but the Guest may be worse, we don’t really know fully yet

[weak nest]

Also at the end of hn2 1.5 the guest costume was seen where the neighbour was hiding in the attic

Is that cannon

[ripe berry]

Guest could become a main antagonist in a future game

[lyric zephyr]

The alphas as far as we know aren’t canon?

[lyric zephyr]

Heck maybe even in HN2 at some point

[weak nest]

I mean the full game even

[ripe berry]

(not in Animated Series because when asked Alex the CEO of tinyBuild said the Guest's beak is in AS but said nothing about the Guest itself being in AS)

[lyric zephyr]

So I’m guessing we’ll see a glimpse of him

[ripe berry]

Yeah, just a character watching from the sidelines

(Kinda like how MitH was seemingly meant to be in HN2)

[lyric zephyr]

MITH was gonna be in the AS? Or are you referencing HN2

[ripe berry]

referencing HN2

[lyric zephyr]

Ah

Well I mean at this point anything’s possible tbh

||Like there was nothing referencing in the demo files a second floor to the Act 1 house and all the windows were seemingly “blacked out” but it’s here now||

Not too late to reinclude stuff

[inner lichen]

And then for all we know, Leslie's gonna suddenly appear outside the neighbor's house.

[lyric zephyr]

Lmao

[inner lichen]

(that one's slightly likely)

[lyric zephyr]

Hey it’s possible, even w post launch updates

[inner lichen]

(considering they already made voicelines for him.)

[lyric zephyr]

(true.)

[inner lichen]

but considering him being in the AS, about to be knocked out...

I'm not all too sure.

[ripe berry]

Leslie in AS:

[inner lichen]

So, when DOES AS take place.

After HN2?

During it?

[ripe berry]

(he most likely dead after that blow)

[candid harness]

The basement in the demo was also just one room the same way it was in the beta
Hmmm

[ripe berry]

Starts before Act 1 and ends around the time of HN2

[inner lichen]

Oh god this means my boy might have a chance to actually still be alive during the events of HN2

[versed yacht]

Before I think

Leads up to it

[ripe berry]

Na

There's 18 episodes

The frame I posted with Leslie and Ted happens (based off the filename) in Episode 3

[versed yacht]

18 episodes each around 10 minutes

[ripe berry]

So that'd be a real short time frame for the series to happen if Episode 3 is during HN2

[weak nest]

Wsp gm

[candid harness]

Maybe that's not during HN2

Maybe it's before?

||And Leslie driving off in the CCTV wasn't actually supposed to be an AS tie in and it was just explaining why he's absent from the game in 1.0||

||All the CCTV cams are outdated as hell anyway, it's just quickly made level sequences recorded in editor and they'll definitely be updated||
(Also please stop saying Leslie is dead just because he gets hit with a shovel you don't know that and are merely jumping to conclusions)

[median stirrup]

||Quentin gets hit with a shovel and another heavy metal object and he's fine||

[candid harness]

||But they try to invalidate that by saying that he's the protagonist as if that should change anything.||
How about we don't know what happens to Leslie yet and it will stay that way until we see Episode 3

[weak nest]

when does this happen?

[untold quiver]

When does hello neighbor 2 take place?

[ripe berry]

After Act 2

Most likely the same day as Act 2

or at the very least it starts on the same day

Now we have no fricking clue about dates anymore (thanks AS) so we now have to compare events past Puzzle Master as they happen in relation to other events

or basically any event in general

[untold quiver]

@ripe berry great so that discards my theory about who the guest really is

[ripe berry]

Lemme guess, you thought it was Aaron?

[untold quiver]

@ripe berry yeah it felt it was building up to be that

[ripe berry]

Graphic Novel 2 makes any theory about the Guest being a certain person incorrect

but also kinda doesn't

The Guest is a supernatural being that can possess people

[untold quiver]

I havent read any book

[ripe berry]

So technically the Guest CAN be anyone, it just chooses not to

[untold quiver]

How true are the events from act 1 or 2 because they take place in a dream flashback?

[ripe berry]

Act 1 is real

[untold quiver]

Guessed

[ripe berry]

Act 2 is a distorted memory,

The only things that actually happen are Aaron freeing Nicky from the Basement and the Act 2 ending cutscene

[untold quiver]

Also i havent bought the beta yet is Nicky's house next to Petersons

[ripe berry]

Yes but they made Nicky's house a background house

If you go up to it before going to sleep it solves Nicky's missing case

Making it still be his house even if it's now just a random background house

[untold quiver]

That a glich?

[ripe berry]

No

[untold quiver]

How does it solve the case

[ripe berry]

It's just

You walk up to the house

The game updates to say you solved the case, no cutscene or anything

[untold quiver]

Weird

Does the animated series take place anywhere

[ripe berry]

Animated Series Pilot or the upcoming 18 episodes?

Pilot is non-canon

[untold quiver]

Yeah the series

[ripe berry]

The upcoming 18 episodes happen from before Act 1 to around the time of HN2

[untold quiver]

Ok

[ripe berry]

However Animated Series is controversial to the longtime fans

As it retcons a lot of what came before it

or it will when it drops in December

[untold quiver]

Also is the hat guy absent from hn2?

[ripe berry]

Yes, the Man in the Hat is (seemingly) cut content

[untold quiver]

I have a feeling that he's role used to be when the game took place actually after act 3 alpha 1 stage probably Nicky

[ripe berry]

MitH was just a character watching from the shadows

[untold quiver]

Also about the animated series is the reason i asked if the acts where canon

[ripe berry]

Animated Series has been stated here (#hello-neighbor message) to connect to story from Acts 1-2 and HN2, making it so HN1 remains canon

[untold quiver]

I know the rumors aren't true anymore but they really should male a hello Neighbor remake

[ripe berry]

The only things that seem to be non-canon are Books 2-3

[untold quiver]

It would help clarify some things

[ripe berry]

is there anything you want some clarity on

We now know (through QnAs) pretty much everything there is to know about the story of HN1

[untold quiver]

No i have the basic knowledge needed to jump on the pre order price it also seems weird to me that the kept half shaved redesign

[shell gull]

Yeah, Is The Thing Still Canon In The Story?

[lyric zephyr]

The Thing is, but only to really Nicky’s story

The Thing is just a representation of fear

Nikita’s even used it outside of HN as a symbol for anxiety

[shell gull]

Ok Thanks For Clarifying But, Is Book 2-3 Still Canon Or Does AS Ruin It?

[lyric zephyr]

AS does in fact mess with that lore too

Since Trinity Enzo and Maritza never once broke in with Nicky, and in fact refused to even investigate too deeply into him

[keen needle]

@cloud falcon Hello neighbor

[lyric zephyr]

And Nicky only really broke in like twice, with no special equipment like ear pieces or night vision goggles

[keen needle]

Orange balls

[shell gull]

There’s Also The Fact That Trinity Is A New Kid Who Moved Into Town In AS Right?

[lyric zephyr]

Yep

As far as we know anyway

Opens up with Trinity moving into town

Rather than being a resident who’s been there longer than Aaron Peterson and has history

I think the AS will be a much better watch if we just remove it from the pre-existing lore

As painful as it is

Just, I’m still gonna watch it, just gonna try and not associate it w the previous HN lore

[shell gull]

Facts, But I Don’t Get Why They Couldn’t Make Trinity Someone Already In Town.

[lyric zephyr]

No clue

[candid harness]

This is what I've been saying too

You have to just try to look at it as a separate new continuity

And you also have to remember this
Even books that are directly adapted into TV shows or movies almost always have changes made to them so the story can be told better and just for the sake of creative liberty

Many TV/movie adaptations of books have changes made to fit better and it's not at all a new thing

In this case it's not exactly an adaptation but you still get what I mean

[ancient nymph]

I have a question, is Hello Neighbor Diaries canon?

[dry depot]

Well, I'm not sure so I'm no professional in the hn storyline
But It depends
Are you talking about the part where nicky is older or about the memories

Because the memories are canon

In the books it said that Aaron and nicky invented things and did pranks

And also in hn we saw nicky coming back to raven brooks so I'm pretty sure the whole game IS canon

But like I said not a pro at the hn storyline so correct me if I'm wrong

[ancient nymph]

The part that he is older, I've read the books and I know that is basically the Nicky trilogy

I think that the part that is older is just an excuse to put the story, like if an alpha of the first game had the story like in Diaries

[lyric zephyr]

Yeah

The gameplay and everything is just basically “hey so you need to earn the exposition”

[neat trellis]

Can i ask: whats the mayak house?

[inner lichen]

Mayak isn't a house, it's a Weather Station.

[neat trellis]

Yeah the guy who was describing the thing called it a house so my bad

Does it have any relevance?

[hazy slate]

Y- You...

You have awoken them..

what have you done..

[neat trellis]

Awoken who?

[shell gull]

The Lore Masters…

[ancient nymph]

Say ME if you consider yourself as a Lore Master:

(ME)

[toxic mist]

YOU

[latent cosmos]

Me

[ancient nymph]

me yes but also YOU?

[toxic mist]

no shot

[ancient nymph]

no shot why?

I'm doing a google presentation with the lore, I will change things when HN 2 comes out and more things

[neat trellis]

Is there a problem?

[crude dew]

Jesus, just answer this poor person
hold on

[crude dew]

mayak was a weather station in the games HGP and HG
the weather anomaly was most likely depending on it's existence (see the SN event with the purple storm) and in the books there was also some weird stuff about it, but it differs from what these games were suggesting. I mean, HG literally tells you to get to the top of the hill, where the mayak is. so it was most likely ABOUT the mayak.
current location of the mayak is unknown. it may be scrapped 😐

in the books and comics it really does vary, but mostly, the weather changes and the storms are it's fault.
at first look, it's an old meteostation.

also, the amusement park was built next to the mayak as you can see, and they hid it on purpose, but did not destroy it. (that's interesting)

[neat trellis]

Interesting

[crude dew]

yeah I really wanted to know, what's up with the mayak.

[neat trellis]

I think i might new to get to know the lore

I wish all of it was in one document

[hazy slate]

You forgot to mention the insane lore people

[crude dew]

you'll never find any lore in a single document, ever. same with lore videos. if a video says "I solved the xy lore" it's most likely has incorrect parts.
same was in my case with fnaf, I got it together from here and there. under years lol.
in the case of HN, I don't really recommend the wiki, because it's incorrect at a lot of parts.
some people there preferred the books over the games, and um...the descriptions became a bit too subjective.

I mean, me with a few people tried to fix it at some point, but uh
hm 🙂 fail

[neat trellis]

I dont like solving the fnaf lore

I swear one day i though i solved it

And then

[crude dew]

me neither anymore
it's way too difficult to solve
too big

[neat trellis]

Thats why i like FNAF Fangames like jolly

[crude dew]

but for the original fnaf lore, it was interesting

[neat trellis]

But anyways back to hn

I wish i knew the lore

[hazy slate]

It got ruined when security breach released in my opinion

[crude dew]

it kinda went downhill with the books and the newer era. I mean, most books have nothing to do with fnaf in general, they are just goosebumps.
that's why I'm afraid of everything's newer era.
franchises should close a main story and start a new chapter (thinking of post-fnaf 6 for example) and also spinoffs exist, we love spinoffs.

[naive cloud]

Man i hope that over 50% of this game is in gerdas house

Hello gerda

2

[shell gull]

I Wanna Know Which Version Of Raven Brooks Is The Canon Version Is It The HN2 FG Version, Books Version Or Is It AS?

[silent steppe]

It honestly depends. I would think, currently, it’s the HN2 version.

[shell gull]

Ok

[solid dew]

the hn2 version is not the canon version

the hn2 version was deliberately cut down and made smaller for gameplay purposes

[crude dew]

all and none
would be the best answer, probably

[neat trellis]

Tbh it just changes

No big deal

[inner lichen]

Which is agonizing since they had concept art for like

other areas besides the main neighborhood

[silver vine]

you can keep it as your opinion, but I would not agree with this

it would make me cry if I play HN2 thinking that the town isnt canon

[silver vine]

It was a weather station built by Neighbor's parents who were famous meteorologists, to study the abnormal weather of Raven Brooks. Decades later Neighbor built a machine there which could control weather, and flooded the town using it. The creator of the game said that mayak would explain everything in HN

[latent cosmos]

I mean plans have changed drastically

[silver vine]

the final point could've changed

but the the fact that Adelle and Roger building and working in it, and Ted building a weather control machine are still canon

[latent cosmos]

Yeah

But mayak feels like a side thing now

[solid dew]

then cry

[tribal talon]

Alexus said that only reason why the map in HN2 has everything close together is for gameplay purposes iirc

[strange lance]

When the devs want the open world game to be super tiny and go by super fast.

[neat trellis]

Does someone know the time line?

From what ive gathered its:

Hn: hide and seek, hn1, hn2 (after act 2?)

[strange lance]

Bosco Bay, Aaron book trilogy, Nicky book trilogy/Hello neighbor hide and seek, Hello neighbor act 1, Secret neighbor, Hello Engineer, Hello neighbor search and rescue (HE and HNSR could be switched), Hello neighbor act 2, Hello neighbor 2, Raven Brooks disaster, Hello neighbor act 3/finale, Hello neighbor diaries, and finally Reset Day.

[neat trellis]

Reset day?

[strange lance]

The last book we ever got, Raven Brooks is basically super disconnected from the world, they have their own phones and apps, like tikcaw (TikTok) and the whole town is surrounded by a brick wall. The town is stuck in a time loop, and randomly the day resets all the way back to November 2nd I believe, which is when Enzo Esposito (Detective from Secret Neighbor) went missing, they're all adults now btw. Things go weird, the town is constantly trying to find Enzo everyday because it's all looping, and the only way to prevent yourself being looped is by wearing a special ring, Maritza (Enzo's sister) who looks after his kids, the main characters etc. The guest is also keeping people from leaving, and Ted is in the costume at this point possessed still. Book ends with the main characters mom getting taken by the guest, cliffhanger ending.

We have not gotten a follow up to that ending since

also at the start of the book a construction guy falls into a pit in the old amusement park, which connects to Hello Engineer directly

He didn't die, he just traveled to a different timeline

[neat trellis]

Thats some weird paranormal stuff

[strange lance]

yeah

[eternal hound]

Damn, those books do be strange

[strange lance]

Wait a sec, what if the kids in HE never actually escaped the sandbox, and the game was just a different timeline where they did get stuck, but in others they didn't? That's why they're still out and about in the cartoon show yet remain in the club, they just never went to the park

🤯

btw here's the time travel pit

[eternal hound]

I'm starting to lose track of what you're saying bro

What generated these alternate realities and the loop anyway?

[strange lance]

Well unless you know the lore and story of Hello Engineer you won't understand

basically

In HE, Ted wants to bring his family back, and to do that he needs to perfect time travel. Around the game there are multiple drawings of formulas, which is the formula for time travel, and Ted sort of succeeds, he uses MANY mannequins as experiments because he can't use himself since that would be risky. He uses these weird coils that use the Mayak lightning as power which teleport you, which he uses on the kids at the end of the game trapping them in a alternate world, being the sandbox. Ted fails though and gives up, that's why he just wants to flood the town in the 2nd graphic novel, because he can't change the past. Also the mannequins in this game are sentient and a lot are dead

So for the ending, where all the kids are trapped in the sandbox (which is the sandbox mode for the game in which they are trapped) there's two options.

1: The kids never escape and this game was just a timeline where they get stuck there forever and live in their clubhouse thing with a shrine of their friend.
2: The kids somehow break the coils that are around the sandbox world and are freed.

We don't know exactly

This game has great lore, I think it's my favorite actually

[eternal hound]

Wow, that's...

A lot

of stuff

[strange lance]

yep

Also the game's final boss fight takes place in the observatory, which is where rituals used to be done by the cultists the forest protectors, so maybe while they were there something happened to them in a ritual who knows

[eternal hound]

Keep in mind, i've never read the books, and i refuse to: i refuse to pay more money for what should be told in the games.
But oh well...

It just feels so out of place for a game franchise where you stalk your strange neighbor...
I surely wasn't expecting all this paranormal and strange stuff that's in the books!

[strange lance]

Honestly you don't need the books anymore unless you want extra details, the games seem to be telling those stories now

[eternal hound]

maybe that's just me

[strange lance]

The only paranormal thing in the Guest, everything else is just really sci-fi

Ted got smart

[eternal hound]

Yeah, it's a very peculiar mixture of sci-fi, paranormal stuff, in a series that I just thought was about a strange man with a sad past that locked up his son in his basement.
That was it for me.
This goes for HN2 as well: there are children disappearances and you're a journalist investigating on it.
But when you throw in all this Sci-Fi paranormal mix of stuff it just...
It just feels out of place, at least for me.

But that's just my opinion

[strange lance]

It got weird the second Mayak was a thing

Then the luck devices

Then the rituals

Then time loops and time travel

And a weird bird demon

[strange lance]

Also for those who don't like HE option 1 is for you, it was just a alternate timeline

[lyric zephyr]

I mean, still don’t really think the main cast getting stuck in the forever sandbox dimension would be canon

[strange lance]

But it is 🥹

Unless again, alternate timeline

Which isn't out of the question considering the game

Is literally about time travel

[eternal hound]

That escalated quickly!

[strange lance]

Weather machine to bird demon

[ripe berry]

Hello Neighbor Lore be like

[neat trellis]

The what now

[ripe berry]

Yea

Sh*t goes complicated fast

[neat trellis]

Did hn just go full on Fazbear frights rn

Anyways

This compliment

[strange lance]

At random these pits just open in the ground

and only in the park

[neat trellis]

It when to "oh i wonder whats in the basement" to " oh god theres weird paranormal stuff going on"

[ripe berry]

and this isn't even mentioning how likely it is that Books 2-3 will become non-canon when Animated Series drops

[neat trellis]

I think the only think i can get right in ghe lore is: hn hide and seek, hn1 and hn2

[inner lichen]

Okay, recap of what we know about Quentin so far IG

[ripe berry]

Alright new Topic: Quentin

Apparently Quentin is from the City (old version of the Meet the Quentin thing)

[inner lichen]

He originates from the city right by Raven Brooks, he may or may not be Norman, clearly competent at his job, was sent to replace the Missing Journalist.

[ripe berry]

He was sent to replace MJ

Frick you beat me to it

[inner lichen]

beat you to it lol

sorry

Was the City ever really an important place to keep in mind before this?

[ripe berry]

No not really

[inner lichen]

Okay, to be fair, it's RIGHT NEXT to Raven Brooks. I'm sure interesting things happen there too.

[ripe berry]

Wait...

That SN Rawning thing

What if they actually meant the City near RB and not RB like most of us thought

[median stirrup]

?

[ripe berry]

I mean it could be both

[strange lance]

The hurricane is approaching the city poster

From SN

[ripe berry]

Kinda depends on what direction said Hurricane was coming from

[ripe berry]

Let's not forget Quentin's last name apparently was important

making it clear his last name is a name we'd recognize

[inner lichen]

Who said that in the first place?

I'm not really in the loop

I keep hearing it's important, but i'm not sure who said it first.

[ripe berry]

So the City seems to be somewhat important but not TOO important at the moment

The only bits of Quentin's story that we have no real hint to is Who sent him to RB

[neat trellis]

Mj?

[ripe berry]

Stands for Missing Journalist, the only real thing we know him by

[inner lichen]

yeah, he was

[ripe berry]

Alright bois

AlexN sent a image that confirms Mayak will be in AS

Looks like it still has a chance to explain everything away

[ripe berry]

Pretty much just now actually

#hello-neighbor message

[tulip mural]

hi

[silver vine]

I will still think that the town of HN2 is the canon one

it makes my gameplay better

you can think whatever you want when you play

Im not arguing that the HN2 town is the canon one, but, I like to think it is

[candid harness]

It's probably ambiguous

Like, there's no layout that's set in stone

It can change throughout the games or other media and still be Raven Brooks

That level of consistency isn't necessary

[neat trellis]

Yeah

[silver vine]

eyeball building has made its epic return

[ripe berry]

Yes

and the City seems to be somewhat important now

[silver vine]

how

I sadly missed the city reference

[ripe berry]

The playstation version of the meet Quentin thing for some reason makes a reference to the city while the Xbox version doesn't (for a period of time we thought they took out the reference)

(Aka Quentin is from the City)

and I mean Quentin living in the city kinda makes it a bit important

[silver vine]

what did it say

[ripe berry]

Can you not click the Reply?

[silver vine]

ah missed it

[ripe berry]

I know the image is bad but you can read most of it just fine

[inner lichen]

Quentin does suspiciously well at his job...

If he didn't originate from Raven Brooks, how does he know how to break into houses exactly???

[ripe berry]

(Mainly bc I grabbed the image from something that was posted as soon as it was released since we thought they took out the city reference and didn't really have anyone else on playstation to check)

[inner lichen]

Did he do the same thing in the City?

Or is there just something we're missing here

[ripe berry]

If so what the hell is going on in the City

[round hatch]

i mean, the only other time we've seen much abt the city was hide and seek right

act 2 basically takes place in it

even though it is made up by mya and aaron

[ripe berry]

Na

I think we're thinking of two different locations

[silver vine]

Alex did say that HE would wrap around the story of HE, so, you'll just have to wait and see before deeming it non canon

[round hatch]

i mean, i don't see any other city to reference

[ripe berry]

The City from HN1:

[round hatch]

there's only 1 city near raven brooks, that's probably where quentin came from and mya and aaron probably went once

[inner lichen]

Isn't the city from HN1, Well

THE city?

[round hatch]

is it not literally the city

[inner lichen]

Or is it a different one?

[ripe berry]

(The one Nicky's Apartment is in)

[round hatch]

yes?

[inner lichen]

Yeah, that's likely the same city.

[ripe berry]

(The one you can see in the background in the main game + HN2)

[round hatch]

if nicky took the time to travel off to raven brooks he probably wouldn't have driven for like 17 hours

[round hatch]

...we know???

[ripe berry]

Are you talking about it being in HN2 or being the same city seen in the background in HN1

[round hatch]

im talking about the city that quentin is from is probably the same city you see in the background of HN1

[inner lichen]

This is getting confusing.

[silver vine]

the city background from HN1 does return in HN2 also, so, its prob the city where Quentin comes from

[round hatch]

there'd be 0 reason to make another city

[ripe berry]

Yeah

[round hatch]

we know really little about the city anyway

[inner lichen]

Other than the fact that.... it's a city.

[round hatch]

yeah and it's the same city you see in HN1 and where quentin comes from

[inner lichen]

And the Hurricane is Approaching poster/warning from SN.

[round hatch]

yea

been there for a longg time

[inner lichen]

When DOES this happen?

[ripe berry]

Which may or may not be caused by Mayak

[ripe berry]

What? The Roohocan hitting the Teecee?

[inner lichen]

Yeah, when does it actually

well, hit it?

[ripe berry]

Because until recently we only had about a 2 month time-span it could hit

(but then AS happened)

[round hatch]

i always thought the "city" it mentions is just raven brooks, didnt really think about the city

and honestly i sorta doubt it is? did they really think it out that far

i mean this poster was added into SN like 3 years ago

[ripe berry]

It could actually be meant to be both the City AND Raven Brooks

it kinda depends on what direction the Hurricane is coming from

and I mean

It has to be at a angle that it'd do damage to RB if they're evacuating RB

(It could also perhaps have some connection to GN2 but I won't go into that)

[neat trellis]

Hmm

[neat trellis]

Whats gn2?

[ripe berry]

Graphic Novel 2

Also known as The Raven Brooks Disaster

[astral nebula]

is there cross platformer in the game?

[shell gull]

Can Someone Explain The Hurricane To Me?

[ripe berry]

Basically throughout the maps in SN you can find this poster (pictured in the reply)

[shell gull]

Huh 🤔

What purpose does it have though

[ripe berry]

When translated it reads "Warning! a hurricane is approaching the city! leave your home as soon as possible! Evacuation!"

It feels like it was going to tie into Hello Guest in some way

[shell gull]

Is It Referring To GN2?

[ripe berry]

Graphic Novel 2 didn't even exist yet when it was added

[shell gull]

Oh Yeah That’s True

So Then What Purpose Does This Hurricane Have And When Is It Coming?

[ripe berry]

The oldest reference on this server to it (that I can find) is from December 2019

[shell gull]

Hmmm 🤔

[ripe berry]

Making it likely it'd connect to the Hello Guest story

[shell gull]

Do You Think They Would Continue HG And ReWork On It?

[ripe berry]

I mean...

It seems like HG's story beats are going to be in AS

With Mayak being in it and all

(and yes that reply is to the image showing Mayak will be in AS (It was posted in #hello-neighbor, that's why Alex | CEO isn't posting it in the reply))

So Mayak is once again important (only sent the image incase you didn't want to have to scroll back down)

[round hatch]

yeah it was added around HGP ARG

i hated that ARG it was so hard for no reason

fun though, sorta

[ripe berry]

and there's a chance MitH can appear

(That chance being due to him still being in SN through that old event)

[shell gull]

If Mayak Is In AS I’m Guessing That Scene Of Leslie In The Forest Is Him About To Find Mayak

[lyric zephyr]

I don’t want LESSlie I want MOREslie

[ripe berry]

Um no

If you read the filename of the image of Leslie getting hit in the head by Ted's shovel

It reads that it's "HN_EP03_Part03d_Seg02_17_Cast"

EP03 stands for Episode 3

[ripe berry]

The image of Mayak says it's EP07

Episode 7

[round hatch]

true true

[ripe berry]

This is not a joke btw

#hello-neighbor message

Here's a link to the original image

Try to download it and you'll see the name is not a lie

[round hatch]

ya we know

[ripe berry]

It's very unlikely they'd backtrack

[round hatch]

||the finale will probably take place in mayak||

gonna spoiler that just incase

even though its technically not one

[ripe berry]

Ah, Episode 18?

[round hatch]

there's 18 episodes???

i thought only like 8

[ripe berry]

Yes, as stated here: #hello-neighbor message

It also states they are each 10-12 minutes in length

[round hatch]

that

is pretty short

so the season will be 3 hours long

[ripe berry]

Yeah, the 10-12 minute length is probably why there's 18 episodes

[round hatch]

the average runtime of 2 episodes from netflix shows lol

i mean whatever

just expected a little more since the series has been in development for 4 years

just hope they won't make us wait a week for 10 minutes each

[ripe berry]

You gotta remember they changed direction

Originally AS was going to show different points in time in each episode

Now it's one linear plotline

[round hatch]

i feel like they should condense the season down

18 episodes with ~10 mins per episode is a little weird

6 episodes with a 30 minute runtime each would be better imo

would also make it worth the wait more, if they're releasing the episodes one by one and not in binge format

[silver vine]

prob GN2

Idk

could be not

[neat trellis]

What's gn2?

[silver vine]

graphic novel 2

[latent cosmos]

No where ATM

Most likely youtube though

They haven't animated all 18 episodes

[stiff spire]

it would be cool if they make the first episode free and the rest paid idk

I'd doubt it would be on streaming services like hulu or netflix

[bronze burrow]

Most likely just YouTube