#lore-discussion | Hello Neighbor Games | Page 13

strange lance Oct 31, 2022, 1:41 AM

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The real Ted

tribal talon Oct 31, 2022, 1:41 AM

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But my theory was the guest is a shape shifter.

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Because remember that picture

strange lance Oct 31, 2022, 1:41 AM

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Your theory is true

tribal talon Oct 31, 2022, 1:41 AM

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“Where we see the guest face reveal”

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And it’s Peterson

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Yea I knew it’s a lie

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Because I compared body’s not to be weird

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I compared there looks

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One more time sending this pic

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The guest is abit bigger

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Thinner legs

strange lance Oct 31, 2022, 1:42 AM

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He can shapeshift yes, but he's not shapeshifting when he possesses Ted

tribal talon Oct 31, 2022, 1:42 AM

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Peterson smaller stomach ish and legs abit more wide

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He’s a creature of some kind

strange lance Oct 31, 2022, 1:42 AM

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If you look at the book art the Guest has normal limb sizes

tribal talon Oct 31, 2022, 1:42 AM

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And this is my opinion ok?

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This is his final form

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Just a theory

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Final form of his shape shifting is this

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Since we’re having a “boss battle”

strange lance Oct 31, 2022, 1:43 AM

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Where'd his other finger go

tribal talon Oct 31, 2022, 1:43 AM

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I mean

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Idk

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Shape shift remember?

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Either he’s a shake shifter or

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He’s a beast of some kind

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Under that suit

strange lance Oct 31, 2022, 1:44 AM

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Well yeah

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Goopy goopy

tribal talon Oct 31, 2022, 1:44 AM

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?

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Ic

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Could be a shape shifter then

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But if he isn’t

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I’ll not suprice

strange lance Oct 31, 2022, 1:45 AM

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Omg he is, he was already confimed one

tribal talon Oct 31, 2022, 1:45 AM

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What tiny build said that?

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:o

strange lance Oct 31, 2022, 1:45 AM

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No the books outright show it

tribal talon Oct 31, 2022, 1:45 AM

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Okay ima brb and yell at my neighbors

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Saying

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I know what’s in ur basement

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And I’m back

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Next question

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Will the police guys come back and any other npc?

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I forgot names but I know attentions

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Lady who makes pie with sus meat

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Old guy who shoots at animals

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Major guys who looks like my next door neighbor

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And more

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And if they do will they be a threat again?

strange lance Oct 31, 2022, 1:50 AM

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Officer Nielsen is coming back of course, Officer Leslie is dead, the Mayor is in the game, Gerda (baker) is in the game, Otto (taxidermist) is in the game, Ted is in too, and that's it

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Plus imbir and skipper

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If you count DLCs then the janitor and his 3 dogs and the librarian

tribal talon Oct 31, 2022, 1:50 AM

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Nielsen check

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Mayor check

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Ted check

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And other new people check

strange lance Oct 31, 2022, 1:59 AM

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The ones crossed out are the 100% sure they are scrapped ones

jaunty mortar Oct 31, 2022, 4:59 AM

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Is Nicky going to make a appearance in the fg

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Or did he already escape

urban fulcrum Oct 31, 2022, 5:06 AM

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jaunty mortar Or did he already escape

yea he did that sadly so no nicky

unkempt sleet Oct 31, 2022, 5:31 AM

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Nicky will never get a new model with HN2 art style😢

tribal talon Oct 31, 2022, 10:56 AM

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Sad

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Welp any news on the game

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Update secrets?

tribal talon Oct 31, 2022, 12:08 PM

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why did the neighbor became bad?

tribal talon Oct 31, 2022, 3:19 PM

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The lost of his daughter and wife

tribal talon Oct 31, 2022, 4:32 PM

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ooooooook i am not familiar with the full game lore

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i know that in the alphas

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there was a theory presenting that the neighbor sold his soul to the devil, as in pre-alpha he has some books from Faust, which sold his soul to the devil lor Power and Knowledge, and the neighbor did same

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and he became a psychopath

feral brook Oct 31, 2022, 4:36 PM

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alphas are not canon

tribal talon Oct 31, 2022, 4:36 PM

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wdym canon

young kayak Oct 31, 2022, 4:36 PM

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not a part of the lore

tribal talon Oct 31, 2022, 4:37 PM

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whatever

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but since the full game released that is a scrapped storyline

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lets test your iq. Who is that?

strange lance Oct 31, 2022, 4:43 PM

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Player

feral brook Oct 31, 2022, 4:43 PM

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pre alpha man

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aka Andrew

tribal talon Oct 31, 2022, 4:44 PM

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Correct.

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Some people say that its The Thing, or the Devil.

remote plover Oct 31, 2022, 7:19 PM

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strange lance Officer Nielsen is coming back of course, Officer Leslie is dead, the Mayor is i...

the mayor is in...Gerda? sounds sus

strange lance Oct 31, 2022, 7:22 PM

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fixed

strange lance Oct 31, 2022, 7:57 PM

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League?

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You mean Leslie?

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Well for one he's nowhere to be seen on the website at all, no renders nothing. Also in the AS teasers we see him being hit with a shovel ("dead")

ripe berry Oct 31, 2022, 8:02 PM

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#hello-neighbor message

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The link is just so you can see this is not fake

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We don't exactly know

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But we can guess that maybe Leslie found out something Ted didn't want him to

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Idk

fiery otter Oct 31, 2022, 8:05 PM

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I wish he killed leslie

ripe berry Oct 31, 2022, 8:05 PM

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But they seem to be in the Forest

fiery otter Oct 31, 2022, 8:06 PM

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but we can't have murder in a family friendly franchise

ripe berry Oct 31, 2022, 8:06 PM

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So maybe it could be like another entrance to the Basement

ripe berry Oct 31, 2022, 8:06 PM

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fiery otter but we can't have murder in a family friendly franchise

Um...

ripe berry Oct 31, 2022, 8:06 PM

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ripe berry Um...

Then what is this?

fiery otter Oct 31, 2022, 8:07 PM

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we don't know if that got approved or not

ripe berry Oct 31, 2022, 8:07 PM

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Also explain this quote: #hello-neighbor message

fiery otter Oct 31, 2022, 8:07 PM

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I hope it did

ripe berry Oct 31, 2022, 8:07 PM

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fiery otter we don't know if that got approved or not

Um...

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It did

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https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHLuN_JL66bD8fdJWmQ-gNw/community?lb=UgkxZvpsVkZ27SpSkXTqJiRCiN0mnwL_Rj0S

YouTube

tinyBuildGAMES

tinyBuild is a video game label started in 2011 with the idea of creating long-term, recognizable franchises by partnering up with talented developers from all over the world.

The company has released dozens of games, including Hello Neighbor, Graveyard Keeper, SpeedRunners, and more. Headquartered in the Seattle Area, USA, the company has stu...

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Or at least the start of it did

fiery otter Oct 31, 2022, 8:08 PM

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I have really bad memory when it comes to some things

ripe berry Oct 31, 2022, 8:09 PM

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Or maybe he found a key to the Basement

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But does he have the Yellow One?

fiery otter Oct 31, 2022, 8:09 PM

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Raven Brooks gets so much rain that perhaps the collapsed tunnels eroded over time and opened back up

ripe berry Oct 31, 2022, 8:09 PM

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It's not

buoyant arrow Oct 31, 2022, 8:10 PM

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ripe berry Or maybe he found a key to the Basement

Or maybe he found Mya’s grave

ripe berry Oct 31, 2022, 8:10 PM

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ripe berry It's not

That's Nicky misremembering

ripe berry Oct 31, 2022, 8:10 PM

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buoyant arrow Or maybe he found Mya’s grave

Or where Mya is actually buried at

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Since we don't know where her body is now

hidden cairn Oct 31, 2022, 8:10 PM

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Hello can someone speak german ?

fiery otter Oct 31, 2022, 8:10 PM

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ripe berry Since we don't know where her body is now

It's probably at the amusement park

ripe berry Oct 31, 2022, 8:11 PM

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all we know is it was in Ted's Backyard, then it was moved to the GAAP, then to some unknown location

hidden cairn Oct 31, 2022, 8:11 PM

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how can i play with german peopel ´???

buoyant arrow Oct 31, 2022, 8:11 PM

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ripe berry Or where Mya is actually buried at

Yeah I guess you’re right, it would be stupid for Ted to attack him if it’s just an empty hole

ripe berry Oct 31, 2022, 8:11 PM

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yes

fiery otter Oct 31, 2022, 8:11 PM

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hidden cairn Hello can someone speak german ?

if you're talking about SN then you can't play directly with people of the same language I don't think-

buoyant arrow Oct 31, 2022, 8:12 PM

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Nicky probably made a run for the front gate and that was it

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The animated series probably explains it

fiery otter Oct 31, 2022, 8:13 PM

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buoyant arrow Nicky probably made a run for the front gate and that was it

there is no front gate, the wall and the house itself is symbolic of Ted's house feeling like a large maze with no exit

ripe berry Oct 31, 2022, 8:13 PM

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Someone unlocks the Washing Machine, Nicky escapes out the front, Ted goes to follow, Aaron distracts Ted giving Nicky time to escape

buoyant arrow Oct 31, 2022, 8:14 PM

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fiery otter there is no front gate, the wall and the house itself is symbolic of Ted's house...

Oh yeah

ripe berry Oct 31, 2022, 8:14 PM

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buoyant arrow Nicky probably made a run for the front gate and that was it

The gate is also distorted, it's just the inside of Ted's House

buoyant arrow Oct 31, 2022, 8:14 PM

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yeah

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I think what I meant to say was

fiery otter Oct 31, 2022, 8:14 PM

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fiery otter there is no front gate, the wall and the house itself is symbolic of Ted's house...

Ted never did build a third floor to his house that was on stilts and only accessible via ladders

buoyant arrow Oct 31, 2022, 8:14 PM

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He just runs off his property

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The thing is

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In the AS

buoyant arrow Oct 31, 2022, 8:15 PM

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buoyant arrow In the AS

||Ted literally kidnaps Nicky||

ripe berry Oct 31, 2022, 8:15 PM

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Because Ted apparently did some renovating between Book 2 and Act 1

buoyant arrow Oct 31, 2022, 8:16 PM

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buoyant arrow ||Ted literally kidnaps Nicky||

||I mean when Nicky goes to get the ball he straight up snatched him away||

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||dang AS Ted sounds brutal||

lyric zephyr Oct 31, 2022, 8:16 PM

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Well the pilot isn’t canon but still hilarious how he just grabs Nicky off of the street in broad daylight

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And has to basically carry him across his yard back to his house lol

buoyant arrow Oct 31, 2022, 8:17 PM

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I wonder if the VA’s are the same ones from the pilot

fiery otter Oct 31, 2022, 8:17 PM

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lyric zephyr Well the pilot isn’t canon but still hilarious how he just grabs Nicky off of th...

Everyone's so scared of Ted that even if they did see him kidnap Nicky, they wouldn't do anything

lyric zephyr Oct 31, 2022, 8:18 PM

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It ain’t bc it’s from Nicky’s perspective

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Yeah

fiery otter Oct 31, 2022, 8:18 PM

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yes

lyric zephyr Oct 31, 2022, 8:19 PM

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It’s Nicky following the ball up to the yard then getting grabbed

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The AS doesn’t care about pre-existing canon.

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It makes its own and destroys other parts of the canon that makes it harder to write!

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Like completely obliterating Trinity from the timeline

ripe berry Oct 31, 2022, 8:20 PM

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Currently hoping we can just replace her with Inventor

lyric zephyr Oct 31, 2022, 8:21 PM

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But they made her the hip new kid in town
When she was in the town before even Aaron was

ripe berry Oct 31, 2022, 8:21 PM

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Yes but in AlexN's own words: "She's the new kid on the block"

lyric zephyr Oct 31, 2022, 8:21 PM

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Trinity was in town before Aaron was, because Aaron wasn’t born in Raven Brooks

fiery otter Oct 31, 2022, 8:21 PM

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lyric zephyr Like completely obliterating Trinity from the timeline

Ted: New girl on the block? Better go kidnap her instead of the kid that just escaped my basement and is probably going to tell the police about what I did to him and my son!

lyric zephyr Oct 31, 2022, 8:21 PM

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Ted was traveling the world making parks at the time

ripe berry Oct 31, 2022, 8:21 PM

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Yes really

ripe berry Oct 31, 2022, 8:21 PM

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fiery otter Ted: New girl on the block? Better go kidnap her instead of the kid that just es...

Trinity's Dream

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It's implied to be a dream Trinity has

lyric zephyr Oct 31, 2022, 8:22 PM

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They made her the hip new kid in town!
Instead of her having her long backstory that affected every single HN book (1-7)

fiery otter Oct 31, 2022, 8:22 PM

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ripe berry It's implied to be a dream Trinity has

who knows
at this point maybe Ted will kidnap all the kids

lyric zephyr Oct 31, 2022, 8:22 PM

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They’re releasing the first episode in December

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Pilot ain’t canon anymore

ripe berry Oct 31, 2022, 8:22 PM

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fiery otter who knows at this point maybe Ted will kidnap all the kids

Maybe

lyric zephyr Oct 31, 2022, 8:23 PM

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Ted’s just a villain in the AS

ripe berry Oct 31, 2022, 8:23 PM

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We kinda got a lot

buoyant arrow Oct 31, 2022, 8:23 PM

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Well judging by the script this show aint for kids

fiery otter Oct 31, 2022, 8:24 PM

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I want to see Mya's dug up corpse at some point

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like

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really see it

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not some symbolic representation

buoyant arrow Oct 31, 2022, 8:25 PM

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Woah Buster alright chill

ripe berry Oct 31, 2022, 8:25 PM

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here's a google slide I made with the public AS knowledge attempting to piece together how it might play out https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1CeQCEt61B3U00ObiqoBG-y1envzetuHlornwUxymtEg/edit

Google Docs

Public AS Info

Here is my best guess at how AS plays out

tribal talon Oct 31, 2022, 8:30 PM

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Wdym "he ran down the hallway"

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It's probably very inaccurate

ripe berry Oct 31, 2022, 8:31 PM

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tribal talon Wdym "he ran down the hallway"

I tried to make sense of the lines in the storyboardswe've seen

tribal talon Oct 31, 2022, 8:31 PM

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You failed

ripe berry Oct 31, 2022, 8:31 PM

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It was the only way to connect it and the YT Community Page "Anyone seen Nicky" image

tribal talon Oct 31, 2022, 8:32 PM

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Some of it just doesnt make sense

ripe berry Oct 31, 2022, 8:32 PM

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ripe berry It was the only way to connect it and the YT Community Page "Anyone seen Nicky" ...

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHLuN_JL66bD8fdJWmQ-gNw/community?lb=Ugkx7B_3h-jXpyFotOs7Luc4RClaIzjW-nZj

YouTube

tinyBuildGAMES

tinyBuild is a video game label started in 2011 with the idea of creating long-term, recognizable franchises by partnering up with talented developers from all over the world.

The company has released dozens of games, including Hello Neighbor, Graveyard Keeper, SpeedRunners, and more. Headquartered in the Seattle Area, USA, the company has stu...

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It's implied that that is the actual quote that goes with the scene

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Like with: He doesn't chase me past the property line, weird huh?/(old version when we got the storyboard)Weird how he doesn't chase me past the property line

tribal talon Oct 31, 2022, 8:34 PM

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Again,

Some of it does not make sense

ripe berry Oct 31, 2022, 8:34 PM

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tribal talon Again, Some of it does not make sense

That's AS Writers for ya

lyric zephyr Oct 31, 2022, 8:34 PM

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Doesn’t make sense when in the books Ted quite literally broke into Nicky’s house while he was away to steal his phone book back

urban fulcrum Oct 31, 2022, 8:34 PM

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ripe berry here's a google slide I made with the public AS knowledge attempting to piece to...

some of it is wrong

lyric zephyr Oct 31, 2022, 8:35 PM

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lyric zephyr Doesn’t make sense when in the books Ted quite literally broke into Nicky’s hous...

Like you’d expect him to chase across the street at least

ripe berry Oct 31, 2022, 8:35 PM

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urban fulcrum some of it is wrong

I tried my best ok?

tribal talon Oct 31, 2022, 8:36 PM

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Wow guys I can't believe Mr. Peterson can't leave his house unless it's convenient for the story

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Really not

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It's just AS writers with their weird writing

ripe berry Oct 31, 2022, 8:37 PM

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Yeah

tribal talon Oct 31, 2022, 8:37 PM

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No story reason for it

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There's none

urban fulcrum Oct 31, 2022, 8:38 PM

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ripe berry I tried my best ok?

this part is wrong

ripe berry Oct 31, 2022, 8:38 PM

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It would kill them to make a story that doesn't mess up the entire lore

tribal talon Oct 31, 2022, 8:38 PM

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Obviously not

urban fulcrum Oct 31, 2022, 8:38 PM

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urban fulcrum this part is wrong

it should be before the school scenes

ripe berry Oct 31, 2022, 8:38 PM

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urban fulcrum it should be before the school scenes

Buddy that is the School in the Background

tribal talon Oct 31, 2022, 8:39 PM

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Guys I can't wait for AS to retcon HN2 1 day after HN2 standard edition releases

ripe berry Oct 31, 2022, 8:39 PM

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tribal talon Guys I can't wait for AS to retcon HN2 1 day after HN2 standard edition releases

No because it's the same writers

tribal talon Oct 31, 2022, 8:39 PM

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I thought it was a house

ripe berry Oct 31, 2022, 8:39 PM

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ripe berry No because it's the same writers

It's the only thing they won't retcon to h*ll and back

tribal talon Oct 31, 2022, 8:39 PM

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Do they even care about their own story at this point

urban fulcrum Oct 31, 2022, 8:39 PM

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ripe berry Buddy that is the School in the Background

oh well it should be at the school

ripe berry Oct 31, 2022, 8:40 PM

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urban fulcrum oh well it should be at the school

But I did put it with the School Scenes

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(aka: AT the school)

tribal talon Oct 31, 2022, 8:41 PM

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I mean,

ripe berry Oct 31, 2022, 8:41 PM

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(Unless you mean after?)

urban fulcrum Oct 31, 2022, 8:41 PM

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ripe berry (Unless you mean after?)

yes

tribal talon Oct 31, 2022, 8:41 PM

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HN2 does not even have that much story anyway

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Yes.......

ripe berry Oct 31, 2022, 8:51 PM

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urban fulcrum yes

Ok

silver vine Nov 1, 2022, 10:45 AM

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~~The Guest~~

silver vine Nov 1, 2022, 10:48 AM

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ripe berry It's the only thing they won't retcon to h*ll and back

town layout:

ripe berry Nov 1, 2022, 7:32 PM

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silver vine town layout:

Oh yeah

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So basically they retcon everything

lyric zephyr Nov 1, 2022, 7:36 PM

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Trinity, the entire town, the Inventors Club not being a thing until Nicky comes up w the idea to make a new one (NOT golden apple), Nicky's whole friendship with the gang to the point of breaking in (only HE broke in, the others refused), Ted randomly following game logic in the story-driven show, Ted also randomly becoming very violence-happy against random people,

ripe berry Nov 1, 2022, 7:37 PM

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yep

strange lance Nov 1, 2022, 7:39 PM

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Retconning Nicky's friends being pieces of crap after he's kidnapped 😔😔

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I liked that about them

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Makes what happens to them in HE and even in Reset day more deserving

ripe berry Nov 1, 2022, 7:40 PM

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But they can't have the characters be book-accurate can they?

lyric zephyr Nov 1, 2022, 7:41 PM

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They can't even have anything be lore accurate

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Trinity's the hip new girl in town, because we can't write for a pre-existing main character!

ripe berry Nov 1, 2022, 7:42 PM

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We also can't write Mr.Peterson right

lyric zephyr Nov 1, 2022, 7:42 PM

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They can't have backstory that'd be too hard.. They just move to town probably on the same street as Nicky and start experiencing weird stuff!
(Note, to her parents she refers to Mr Peterson as "their neighbor")

ripe berry Nov 1, 2022, 7:42 PM

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How do we know that was to her parents? is there something I missed?

strange lance Nov 1, 2022, 7:42 PM

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From script

lyric zephyr Nov 1, 2022, 7:42 PM

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Yeah

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In the script it has her telling presumably her parents "I thing our neighbor is a serial killer!" or something along those lines

ripe berry Nov 1, 2022, 7:45 PM

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"I think out Neighbor across the street is a murderer"

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That was the line

lyric zephyr Nov 1, 2022, 7:46 PM

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Ah

median stirrup Nov 1, 2022, 7:46 PM

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🥹

lyric zephyr Nov 1, 2022, 7:46 PM

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Even worse than I remember!

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so Trinity is either now Nicky's next door neighbor, or she moved in across the street and Nicky is living somewhere else!

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Meaning HN1 is noncanon now too potentially

strange lance Nov 1, 2022, 7:48 PM

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No wonder "Nicky's" house is a BG house in HN2's, it's not his

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It's Trinity's

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Can't wait to see Trinity's treehouse

lyric zephyr Nov 1, 2022, 7:48 PM

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It's like they wrote for it to be Nicky as the main character but scratched out all the names in the script and replaced it with Trinity

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and just made Nicky a supporting character

ripe berry Nov 1, 2022, 7:50 PM

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Or what if Trinity is also Nicky's Neighbor

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For the "Nicky is living somewhere else" thing

strange lance Nov 1, 2022, 7:52 PM

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The kids in the AS before breaking in:
Trinity: What can I do?
Nicky: Guess you could be our leader!
Enzo: I'm sort of a detective myself
Maritza: You know I'm quite brave guys.
Delroy: I guess I'm a bagger, I have a bag ya know!
Inventor: Guys I'm actually an inventor! I'll make us tools!
Scout: I'm a scout

sudden garden Nov 1, 2022, 7:53 PM

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If they make Trinity live next to Ted's house I'll hate that certain placement in HN2 even more.

lyric zephyr Nov 1, 2022, 7:53 PM

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Trinity lives in a old barn

oblique drum Nov 1, 2022, 7:53 PM

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this is canon now

lyric zephyr Nov 1, 2022, 7:53 PM

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But no next to Ted's house wouldn't work with "across the street"

oblique drum Nov 1, 2022, 7:53 PM

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trinity lives in an old abandoned barn!!

lyric zephyr Nov 1, 2022, 7:53 PM

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She'd have to either be Nicky's next door Neighbor or she moved into Nicky's house and Nicky lives elsewhere now

lyric zephyr Nov 1, 2022, 7:54 PM

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strange lance The kids in the AS before breaking in: Trinity: What can I do? Nicky: Guess you ...

Random Scientist:(peeks head through door, says something creepy, leaves)

solid dew Nov 1, 2022, 7:55 PM

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I'm something of a scientist myself. and then he leaves

strange lance Nov 1, 2022, 7:56 PM

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Ted across the road running into the invisible barrier: "I see you!"

Proceeds to dance

lyric zephyr Nov 1, 2022, 7:56 PM

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(DIRECTLY before the break in)
Enzo:"Man, I heard that he's a.. really Scary Neighbor."
Trinity:"Huh? I heard that he was The Butcher before his wife died"
Inventor:"No- No, I heard he was a Clown at the old park?"
Scout:"ghost."

strange lance Nov 1, 2022, 7:57 PM

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Delroy: "We seem to be Mr. Peterson's new Guests.."

median stirrup Nov 1, 2022, 7:57 PM

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you guys are making me cry

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and it is not tears of joy

lyric zephyr Nov 1, 2022, 7:57 PM

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median stirrup you guys are making me cry

Nicky hitting the griddy back and forth across the sidewalk inside and then back out of Mr Peterson's property line

strange lance Nov 1, 2022, 7:57 PM

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I am 99% sure at least one of those lines will be said

median stirrup Nov 1, 2022, 7:57 PM

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which is why I'm crying

strange lance Nov 1, 2022, 7:58 PM

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Me too

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😭

lyric zephyr Nov 1, 2022, 7:58 PM

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"Hello, I'm your Neighbor."
Shortly followed up by
"Goodbye. I'll see you later." (menacing)

median stirrup Nov 1, 2022, 7:59 PM

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"now get out"

lyric zephyr Nov 1, 2022, 7:59 PM

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"Just ask your neighbor, 'are you afraid of the dark?'." - Enzo

median stirrup Nov 1, 2022, 7:59 PM

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I still want to know what exactly Enzo is doing in Otto's house and how is he right behind him without Otto noticing

strange lance Nov 1, 2022, 7:59 PM

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Can't wait for Enzo to play those mixtapes mentioned in the guidebook...

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Which have awful titles

median stirrup Nov 1, 2022, 8:00 PM

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don't-

strange lance Nov 1, 2022, 8:00 PM

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"Cotton eye Nicky"

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I think was one

lyric zephyr Nov 1, 2022, 8:00 PM

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median stirrup I still want to know what exactly Enzo is doing in Otto's house and how is he ri...

Otto has every right to shoot him right there

median stirrup Nov 1, 2022, 8:00 PM

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I hope he does

lyric zephyr Nov 1, 2022, 8:00 PM

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Enzo dies in that episode

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Never returns again

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Gotta retcon Reset Day too

strange lance Nov 1, 2022, 8:01 PM

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My friend was kidnapped! Let me make mixtapes in his name...even in the guidebook his friends are crap

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Curse the writers for retconning that

tribal talon Nov 1, 2022, 8:06 PM

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lyric zephyr (DIRECTLY before the break in) Enzo:"Man, I heard that he's a.. *really* Scary N...

Bagger:I thought he was a big crow man who can leap across the Mariana Trench

lyric zephyr Nov 1, 2022, 8:06 PM

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Imbir:(makes a random cameo for no reason only to meow)

tribal talon Nov 1, 2022, 8:06 PM

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Scram cat

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Wait so if butcher is canon would that mean clown is canon? Maybe

lyric zephyr Nov 1, 2022, 8:07 PM

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Nah, it's all in Trinity's nightmare

tribal talon Nov 1, 2022, 8:07 PM

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Oh kk

lyric zephyr Nov 1, 2022, 8:07 PM

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He doesn't dress up as a Butcher and throw her into a bone basement lol

tribal talon Nov 1, 2022, 8:07 PM

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Lol that would be weird

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But yea

ripe berry Nov 1, 2022, 8:41 PM

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tribal talon Bagger:I thought he was a big crow man who can leap across the Mariana Trench

Gues lor:

silver vine Nov 2, 2022, 7:43 AM

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tribal talon Wait so if butcher is canon would that mean clown is canon? Maybe

clown is MORE canon than butcher

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Butcher was just nightmare

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in book 6, neighbor canonically wears the clown suit for Mya's tea parties

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Idk how ghost fits in

verbal jewel Nov 2, 2022, 9:14 AM

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It just dose

tribal talon Nov 2, 2022, 11:05 AM

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The ghost may fit in with the amusement park or some type of haunted place? Idk

tribal talon Nov 2, 2022, 11:47 AM

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silver vine Butcher was just nightmare

Butcher was also based off Nicky seeing him cut apart meat in the second book.

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As well as early concept art for the first game.

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Also, I am very confused. When does the second graphic novel take place? It taking place in the 90's isn't possible.

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They have smartphones.

candid harness Nov 2, 2022, 12:06 PM

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There is no timeline

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Things happen when they do and you will not question the time frame

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You will not question why kids have smartphones in the 90s

tribal talon Nov 2, 2022, 6:30 PM

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silver vine in book 6, neighbor canonically wears the clown suit for Mya's tea parties

That’s cool

ripe berry Nov 2, 2022, 7:30 PM

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So they announced a HN VR Game

lyric zephyr Nov 2, 2022, 7:30 PM

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Yep

ripe berry Nov 2, 2022, 7:30 PM

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when do you think HNVR will happen in the lore?

lyric zephyr Nov 2, 2022, 7:30 PM

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It has to be Act 1.5

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Between act 1 and 2

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Or it may just not happen and be a noncanon addition to the series again (Mr Peterson's house and the kids constructing a dug tunnel in the Roths' yard into the sewers)

strange lance Nov 2, 2022, 7:31 PM

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Would it be ok to group SN and HNSR as the same thing

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Since it's literally the same thing

ripe berry Nov 2, 2022, 7:31 PM

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The only order that includes HNVR that makes sense to me is (and tinyCrow I know there's more please don't correct me for not including other games/Acts) Act 1, SN, HNVR, HE, and Act 2

median stirrup Nov 2, 2022, 7:31 PM

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HNVR is basically SN

strange lance Nov 2, 2022, 7:32 PM

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The rescue squad trilogy of games

ripe berry Nov 2, 2022, 7:33 PM

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So HNVR is just a extended SN, maybe featuring some stuff before SN itself, also (maybe) some stuff after

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So the full Timeline goes something like GN1, Book 4, Book 5, Book 6, Book 1/HNHS, Book 2, AS Ep. 1, Book 3/Act 1, AS Ep. 2, HNVR/SN, HE, Act 2, AS Ep. 3, HN2, GN2, Act 3/Finale, HND, (If canon (probably isn't, just mentioning)) Neighbor's Notebook, Book 7

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right?

lyric zephyr Nov 2, 2022, 7:36 PM

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Seems like it,

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Neighbor's Notebook probably not being really a "canon" lore entry, just having lore facts

ripe berry Nov 2, 2022, 8:35 PM

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Yo AS Episode amount just dropped

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"the series wraps around that through 18 episodes"

vast ridge Nov 2, 2022, 9:12 PM

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WAY more than I was expecting

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I was thinking maybe 8 - 10 episodes

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But 18?

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Zamn!

median stirrup Nov 2, 2022, 9:13 PM

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they aren't very long that's why

vast ridge Nov 2, 2022, 9:13 PM

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Yeah I can imagine that

median stirrup Nov 2, 2022, 9:13 PM

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10-12 minutes

vast ridge Nov 2, 2022, 9:13 PM

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Probably about 10 minutes each?

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Ok

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That makes sense

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I would rather have them in a more condensed run time anyway

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Little drops of lore each episode

oblique drum Nov 2, 2022, 9:14 PM

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they all shouldve been minimum an hour long.....

vast ridge Nov 2, 2022, 9:14 PM

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I hope you’re joking

verbal jewel Nov 2, 2022, 9:55 PM

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Ok so do Aaron and Mya share a room or do they have there own ?

solid dew Nov 2, 2022, 9:56 PM

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in the books they have their own rooms

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in hn1 and hs they share a room

median stirrup Nov 2, 2022, 9:56 PM

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in HN VR they seem to have separate rooms

verbal jewel Nov 2, 2022, 9:59 PM

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Hm consistency much

median stirrup Nov 2, 2022, 10:02 PM

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well HN1/HS came first

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and then they decided that the kids should have separate rooms

spring grove Nov 2, 2022, 10:20 PM

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Are the books still canon

lyric zephyr Nov 2, 2022, 10:22 PM

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spring grove Are the books still canon

We don’t have a clear answer yet

jaunty mortar Nov 2, 2022, 11:39 PM

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What if hn3 was announced

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What would be the lore

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Ik it’s kind of a weird question but

stiff spire Nov 2, 2022, 11:41 PM

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hn3 would probably take place in another perspective idk what would hn3 be about

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maybe the antagonist might be the neighbor

jaunty mortar Nov 2, 2022, 11:42 PM

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It would be cool if hn3 took place years later and it brought back the old hn2 art style

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And mr Peterson would be in the guest suit

jaunty mortar Nov 2, 2022, 11:43 PM

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jaunty mortar And mr Peterson would be in the guest suit

Bcuz doesn’t he steal the guests suit in one of the books

tribal talon Nov 2, 2022, 11:45 PM

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candid harness You will not question why kids have smartphones in the 90s

Sounds about right.

tribal talon Nov 3, 2022, 12:12 AM

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Is the HN animated series on YouTube?

ebon trellis Nov 3, 2022, 12:15 AM

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So uh what’s with HN search and rescue, where does this fit into the story? If we know?

stiff spire Nov 3, 2022, 12:21 AM

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so far my guess is it takes place during nicky's disappearance and maybe the rescue squad from sn is trying to save nicky

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in the neighbor's house

inner lichen Nov 3, 2022, 12:53 AM

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I thought that the rescue squad never actually saved him.

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I'm assuming this is some kinda what-if scenario of sorts.

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(AKA something kinda like SN.)

candid harness Nov 3, 2022, 12:57 AM

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Or just a failed attempt?

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I wanna believe that this is actually happening unlike SN

inner lichen Nov 3, 2022, 1:00 AM

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It doesn't really FEEL imaginary.

tribal talon Nov 3, 2022, 8:08 AM

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jaunty mortar Bcuz doesn’t he steal the guests suit in one of the books

It’s actually [Possession]

silver vine Nov 3, 2022, 1:42 PM

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strange lance Would it be ok to group SN and HNSR as the same thing

technically ok for me

silver vine Nov 3, 2022, 1:45 PM

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ripe berry So the full Timeline goes something like GN1, Book 4, Book 5, Book 6, Book 1/HNH...

I wouldnt put the notebook in the timeline

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it doesnt take place in the HN timeline, its just a book outside of the timeline, but, does give us some information about the lore

silver vine Nov 3, 2022, 1:46 PM

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spring grove Are the books still canon

they're always canon

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#hello-neighbor message

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XD

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so, HN now takes place in early 2000s

spring grove Nov 3, 2022, 4:03 PM

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If anyone can pls tell me the timeline i thought i knew it but now cause of these retcons im confused

strange lance Nov 3, 2022, 4:05 PM

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GN1, Book 4, Book 5, Book 6, Book 1/HNHS, Book 2, AS Ep. 1, Book 3/Act 1, AS Ep. 2, HNVR/SN, HE, Act 2, AS Ep. 3, HN2, GN2, Act 3/Finale, HND, Book 7

spring grove Nov 3, 2022, 4:05 PM

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Ok

spring grove Nov 3, 2022, 4:06 PM

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silver vine so, HN now takes place in early 2000s

Well explain how the books took place in the 90s but now it takes place in the 2000s

silver vine Nov 3, 2022, 4:07 PM

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strange lance GN1, Book 4, Book 5, Book 6, Book 1/HNHS, Book 2, AS Ep. 1, Book 3/Act 1, AS Ep....

we prob shouldnt include the AS

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its gonna have 18 eps

strange lance Nov 3, 2022, 4:07 PM

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😭

ripe berry Nov 3, 2022, 7:23 PM

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18 10-12 minute long episodes

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Wondering what the post-episode 3 episodes might look like

tribal talon Nov 3, 2022, 7:30 PM

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silver vine they're always canon

Ik this is a dumb question but I don’t really understand this. What does canon in video games or books mean?

ripe berry Nov 3, 2022, 7:33 PM

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canon means it's a part of the story of that thing

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Like the Hello Neighbor Canon is referring to everything that is considered a part of the HN story

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(aka HN1, HNHS, SN, HE, HN2, HND, HNSR, Books 1-7, and the Graphic Novels)

manic dirge Nov 3, 2022, 7:36 PM

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will the tunnels be in hnsr?

ripe berry Nov 3, 2022, 7:36 PM

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(tinyCrow also believes the details the Guidebook reveals that nothing else so far have supported being canon are canon)

sudden garden Nov 3, 2022, 7:37 PM

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manic dirge will the tunnels be in hnsr?

There's sewers, if that counts.

ripe berry Nov 3, 2022, 7:37 PM

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manic dirge will the tunnels be in hnsr?

I mean...

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Does this count?

ripe berry Nov 3, 2022, 7:39 PM

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ripe berry (aka HN1, HNHS, SN, HE, HN2, HND, HNSR, Books 1-7, and the Graphic Novels)

(Soon to also include AS)

hazy slate Nov 3, 2022, 9:33 PM

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it seems HNVR is canon

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There is a blacked out kid in the new teaser

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hmmm...

tribal talon Nov 3, 2022, 9:41 PM

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Hmm

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Ic

lyric zephyr Nov 3, 2022, 9:46 PM

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Probably gonna be canon in the same way SN is

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And Act 2 of HN1

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It kinda happens but it’s very exaggerated

strange lance Nov 3, 2022, 9:49 PM

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tB responded to a comment asking if it was canon and they said yes so it must be true!

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for HNSR

shell gull Nov 3, 2022, 10:23 PM

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Talking About HNSR Isn’t It Gonna take place during sn when they try and rescue Nicky?

hazy slate Nov 3, 2022, 11:45 PM

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shell gull Talking About HNSR Isn’t It Gonna take place during sn when they try and rescue ...

after, it's the actual break in it seems

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@silver vine Who do you think this blacked out kid is?

candid harness Nov 3, 2022, 11:56 PM

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lyric zephyr It kinda happens but it’s very exaggerated

No SN was completely imagination

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I think SN comes before this in the timeline
That was just the kids planning out their break-in completely in their imagination, this is it actually happening

valid dock Nov 4, 2022, 12:09 AM

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candid harness No SN was completely imagination

oh ok then if is sn is a plan and this is it being done and does hn2 take place? in act 2 right in sn and hnsr are in act 2 and hn2 is in act 2 to but then i think they did not find nicky or did

candid harness Nov 4, 2022, 12:09 AM

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HN2 takes place after Nicky is saved

valid dock Nov 4, 2022, 12:10 AM

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oh ok

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then in the beta why are there missing poster of nicky (ik its not cannon)

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hmmmm?

jovial mural Nov 4, 2022, 12:12 AM

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candid harness No SN was completely imagination

mfw secret neighbors pointless

candid harness Nov 4, 2022, 12:12 AM

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valid dock then in the beta why are there missing poster of nicky (ik its not cannon)

I think those are from before he was found

valid dock Nov 4, 2022, 12:13 AM

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but

jovial mural Nov 4, 2022, 12:13 AM

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valid dock then in the beta why are there missing poster of nicky (ik its not cannon)

just because he's found doesn't mean the missing posters would automatically vanish overnight

valid dock Nov 4, 2022, 12:21 AM

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then if he escaped on his own time why is qunten seen as a hero but nicky escaped own so why

jovial mural Nov 4, 2022, 12:32 AM

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he's investigating the disappearance of Mr. Peterson, and, breaking into other peoples houses, I guess.

valid dock Nov 4, 2022, 12:33 AM

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oh ok

candid harness Nov 4, 2022, 1:24 AM

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And because Aaron is still missing and hasn't escaped or been found yet

silver vine Nov 4, 2022, 2:08 AM

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tribal talon Ik this is a dumb question but I don’t really understand this. What does canon i...

wdym?

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they both are the same canon

silver vine Nov 4, 2022, 2:10 AM

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hazy slate <@759094558000283650> Who do you think this blacked out kid is?

random kid

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now Im really confused on HNSR

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I used to think it wasnt imaginary and takes place irl

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but now this new teaser makes me rethink that

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with tB saying that it is completely canon

urban fulcrum Nov 4, 2022, 2:20 AM

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silver vine but now this new teaser makes me rethink that

from what people say this is the plan that the RS planned during SN
but there doing it fr now and not just imagining what would happen

silver vine Nov 4, 2022, 2:24 AM

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urban fulcrum from what people say this is the plan that the RS planned during SN but there do...

what is this then

urban fulcrum Nov 4, 2022, 2:24 AM

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silver vine what is this then

a twisted hallway

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oh wait nm

silver vine Nov 4, 2022, 2:26 AM

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look at the sky

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it doesnt even look like its in the house

hazy slate Nov 4, 2022, 2:27 AM

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silver vine random kid

guest victim maybe?

urban fulcrum Nov 4, 2022, 2:28 AM

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silver vine what is this then

maybe this is in the guest world

strange lance Nov 4, 2022, 2:30 AM

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It's a nightmare sequence

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as said by the new description

urban fulcrum Nov 4, 2022, 2:31 AM

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strange lance It's a nightmare sequence

im dum to even read Dumb

silver vine Nov 4, 2022, 2:35 AM

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strange lance as said by the new description

wait, what?

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what desc?

strange lance Nov 4, 2022, 2:39 AM

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Hello Neighbor: Search and Rescue is a groundbreaking VR horror-puzzle game where you sneak into your creepy neighbor's house to save your friend.

Adaptive AI: Mr. Peterson reacts to your play style, learns your tactics, and works to thwart them. You’ll have to learn how to play against such an opponent in VR.

Multiple playable characters: Switch between characters to outsmart the AI. Each unique character has their own key items and skills. Switch between the perspectives of the Rescue Squad team members at will, solving puzzles and avoiding the Neighbor as you attempt to reach the creepy basement!

Environmental puzzles require creative solutions: You will have to increasingly use your wits to find alternate solutions to a dynamic range of puzzles and challenging environmental obstacles. Many puzzles that may seem unsolvable at first glance require you to use the perspectives of multiple characters in conjunction to overcome them.

Non-linear exploration: Use your own approach to infiltrate Mr. Peterson’s house by alternating perspectives, combining character’s skills to dynamically solve puzzles, uncover hidden mysteries, and reveal new pathways through your environment.

Confront your fears: Experience nightmarish dream sequences and learn more about the secrets of the Hello Neighbor universe!

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From today, on the store page

silver vine Nov 4, 2022, 2:41 AM

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hah thanks

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so, it looks like HNSR is gonna be completely real

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since they have nightmare sequences ingame

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Im glad that tB came out and confirmed that HNSR is canon, otherwise ppl would be arguing whether its canon or not

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I hope the guest shows up in HNSR too

lyric zephyr Nov 4, 2022, 3:01 AM

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Well, still questionable in some cases

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like the entirety of the Neighbor's house

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But it's probably an Act 2 situation

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What happens is canon (they break in and potentially save Nicky), but stuff's all messed up and exaggerated due to trauma and imagination

silver vine Nov 4, 2022, 3:07 AM

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ye

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tho I doubt they're gonna save Nicky tho

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Nicky escaped by himself with Aaron's help

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unless they retcon that

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agai

lyric zephyr Nov 4, 2022, 3:08 AM

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They've retconned everything else up to this point

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Why not lol

silver vine Nov 4, 2022, 3:09 AM

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why so many retcons 😭

urban fulcrum Nov 4, 2022, 3:09 AM

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lyric zephyr They've retconned everything else up to this point

even time it self

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since smartphones

lyric zephyr Nov 4, 2022, 3:09 AM

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No more 90s, so sorry!

silver vine Nov 4, 2022, 3:09 AM

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this is gonna push back the dates of everything which we know

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even ages of the characters

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I mean, we know they're aged up a bit

urban fulcrum Nov 4, 2022, 3:10 AM

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lyric zephyr No more 90s, so sorry!

t-theres smartphones in 1997

silver vine Nov 4, 2022, 3:10 AM

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it takes place a little later now

lyric zephyr Nov 4, 2022, 3:10 AM

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Yep

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They changed up the year

silver vine Nov 4, 2022, 3:10 AM

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this is the fourth date we have for act 1!

lyric zephyr Nov 4, 2022, 3:10 AM

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It takes place mid 2000s now so the iphone can exist!

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Alex CEO himself said they moved the timeline up!

urban fulcrum Nov 4, 2022, 3:11 AM

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lyric zephyr It takes place mid 2000s now so the iphone can exist!

few at least it doesn't take place in 2022

silver vine Nov 4, 2022, 3:11 AM

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1996 - date given by the books
1997 - date given by the milk carton from HN1
1998 - date implied by Nikita
Animated Series - 🙂

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I still dont get why they moved up the timeline

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maybe it makes the story better in some way?

urban fulcrum Nov 4, 2022, 3:13 AM

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silver vine 1996 - date given by the books 1997 - date given by the milk carton from HN1 1...

maybe 2001?

lyric zephyr Nov 4, 2022, 3:14 AM

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iphone released in 2007

urban fulcrum Nov 4, 2022, 3:14 AM

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lyric zephyr iphone released in 2007

💀

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maybe a different phone?

lyric zephyr Nov 4, 2022, 3:16 AM

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The iphone is probably what it's gonna be based on tho

silver vine Nov 4, 2022, 3:16 AM

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why not android?

lyric zephyr Nov 4, 2022, 3:17 AM

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It released in 2008

urban fulcrum Nov 4, 2022, 3:17 AM

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silver vine why not android?

that was 2008

silver vine Nov 4, 2022, 3:17 AM

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ah

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if Mr.Peterson uses iphone, apples gonna sue tB

lyric zephyr Nov 4, 2022, 3:18 AM

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So, if the AS takes place in 2007, and if they keep up with the 19 year time skip to when Nicky moves back in Act 3
Act 3 of HN1 would now take place in the year 2026

urban fulcrum Nov 4, 2022, 3:18 AM

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buut the first ever smart phone was made in 1992 so they could used that

silver vine Nov 4, 2022, 3:19 AM

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lyric zephyr So, if the AS takes place in 2007, and if they keep up with the 19 year time ski...

https://tenor.com/view/pedro-pascal-mandalorian-laugh-cry-gif-21495683

Tenor

lyric zephyr Nov 4, 2022, 3:19 AM

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something tells me they won't be using this.

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silver vine Nov 4, 2022, 3:19 AM

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urban fulcrum buut the first ever smart phone was made in 1992 so they could used that

they have smartphones which can store pictures

lyric zephyr Nov 4, 2022, 3:19 AM

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Likely it'll be a generic full screen touchscreen smartphone

silver vine Nov 4, 2022, 3:19 AM

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lyric zephyr

I have one of these

lyric zephyr Nov 4, 2022, 3:20 AM

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lyric zephyr Likely it'll be a generic full screen touchscreen smartphone

What the iphone kinda coined as the smartphone design from then on

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So either they retcon the 19 year time skip of Nicky having left Raven Brooks, or Act 3 takes place in 2026

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and by association Reset Day would be 2031

urban fulcrum Nov 4, 2022, 3:21 AM

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lyric zephyr and by association Reset Day would be 2031

you just broke the timeline of HN thanks😃

lyric zephyr Nov 4, 2022, 3:21 AM

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Nope, THEY did! With smartphones needing to be included and them moving up the timeline

silver vine Nov 4, 2022, 3:22 AM

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fantastic

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now we have no clue in what year ANY of the HN events take place

lyric zephyr Nov 4, 2022, 3:22 AM

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We do! Just add 9 years

strange lance Nov 4, 2022, 3:23 AM

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Nicky opens Instagram to post his evidence of Mr. Peterson "Dang! Out of service, gotta reach higher altitude!" A new plot emerges as the rescue squad search's for a cell tower to post Instagram pictures

urban fulcrum Nov 4, 2022, 3:23 AM

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besides let them make there own smartphone

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they would get sued if they used iphones or androids

lyric zephyr Nov 4, 2022, 3:27 AM

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It's probably gonna be like
A generic iphone with a golden apple w/o a bite taken out of it on the back

urban fulcrum Nov 4, 2022, 3:28 AM

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lyric zephyr It's probably gonna be like A generic iphone with a golden apple w/o a bite tak...

that was invented it 2001

silver vine Nov 4, 2022, 3:35 AM

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urban fulcrum besides let them make there own smartphone

canonically, Raven Brooks have their own smartphones

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phones from the outside world dont work in Raven Brooks

silver vine Nov 4, 2022, 3:36 AM

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strange lance Nicky opens Instagram to post his evidence of Mr. Peterson "Dang! Out of service...

they dont have instagram

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forgot?

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Raven Brooks only has rip off apps

lyric zephyr Nov 4, 2022, 3:38 AM

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Well that was just Reset Day to make sure the town stays secluded and unable to reach the outside world

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They might have their own in-universe iphones still but it'd be weird for them to just be unable to make calls out of town

silver vine Nov 4, 2022, 3:39 AM

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lyric zephyr Well that was just Reset Day to make sure the town stays secluded and unable to ...

so, if its reset day, it means its not canon?

lyric zephyr Nov 4, 2022, 3:40 AM

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??? Where did I say that?

silver vine Nov 4, 2022, 3:40 AM

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you implied that

lyric zephyr Nov 4, 2022, 3:40 AM

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I said that in Reset Day the knockoff apps were to keep the town secluded

lyric zephyr Nov 4, 2022, 3:40 AM

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lyric zephyr I said that in Reset Day the knockoff apps were to keep the town secluded

Which is what they're for

silver vine Nov 4, 2022, 3:40 AM

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sso, there wont be rip off apps in AS?

lyric zephyr Nov 4, 2022, 3:40 AM

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There might?? We legit don't know man

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From what I remember, Piper can't reach the outside world once in the town

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So I'm assuming the knockoff apps were for the same purpose, to keep the town to itself, no calling for outside help

manic dirge Nov 4, 2022, 4:11 AM

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silver vine I used to think it wasnt imaginary and takes place irl

its like act 2

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its a distorted memory

silver vine Nov 4, 2022, 4:13 AM

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or like HNHS and HE

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it did happen irl, but, the stuff were exxagerated

manic dirge Nov 4, 2022, 4:19 AM

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silver vine it did happen irl, but, the stuff were exxagerated

yes exactly

silver vine Nov 4, 2022, 4:23 AM

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it wasnt a memory like act 2

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thats sure for me

manic dirge Nov 4, 2022, 4:27 AM

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silver vine it wasnt a memory like act 2

nono im saying its like act 2 cuz they are both distorted memorys

silver vine Nov 4, 2022, 4:28 AM

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no

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theres no confirmation that HNSR is a distorted memory

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it wouldnt make sense if it was

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its from the perspective of multiple children

manic dirge Nov 4, 2022, 4:29 AM

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true

silver vine Nov 4, 2022, 4:29 AM

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its mostly real

manic dirge Nov 4, 2022, 4:30 AM

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i wonder why the house looks like that

lyric zephyr Nov 4, 2022, 4:31 AM

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Yeah the house is, really inaccurate lol

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It's more like the HN2 Alpha 1 house in a lot of ways

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Even the layout texture we've seen shows it's similar

manic dirge Nov 4, 2022, 4:32 AM

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lyric zephyr It's more like the HN2 Alpha 1 house in a lot of ways

yeah

candid harness Nov 4, 2022, 4:34 AM

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lyric zephyr Yeah the house is, really inaccurate lol

I wouldn't consider it "really innaccurate"

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it is still very much the act 1 house

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And most things could really just be chocked up to artistic choices

lyric zephyr Nov 4, 2022, 4:35 AM

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Fair

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Just getting a comparison lol

manic dirge Nov 4, 2022, 4:35 AM

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candid harness it is still very much the act 1 house

it has an attic

lyric zephyr Nov 4, 2022, 4:35 AM

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It's not rlly an attic

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More a third floor

candid harness Nov 4, 2022, 4:35 AM

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That doesn't make it not Act 1 lol, it's just an extra window

manic dirge Nov 4, 2022, 4:35 AM

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the house doesnt have a attic or 3rd floor

lyric zephyr Nov 4, 2022, 4:35 AM

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I really like this layout tho

candid harness Nov 4, 2022, 4:35 AM

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What does that change?

manic dirge Nov 4, 2022, 4:35 AM

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lyric zephyr I really like this layout tho

ye

lyric zephyr Nov 4, 2022, 4:35 AM

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lyric zephyr I really like this layout tho

It's def not Act 1 but it's definitely really HN2A1

candid harness Nov 4, 2022, 4:36 AM

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Outside of the added window and board it's still almost the same design as HN1

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Just a bit different stylistically

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And obviously not counting the addons

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I like to imagine the reason the house looks so large and towering is because it's actually fully playing off of the "child's perception" thing

silver vine Nov 4, 2022, 4:37 AM

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I was about to say that

candid harness Nov 4, 2022, 4:37 AM

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With this game it actually has full reason to do that because it's VR

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You're seeing this directly from the eyes of the character

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So in the eyes of the character the house looks much more tall and menacing

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Meanwhile in HN2 you play as a grown adult so to you it looks fairly normal

silver vine Nov 4, 2022, 4:38 AM

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and less scarier

shell gull Nov 4, 2022, 5:33 AM

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Prob Not Gonna Be Able To Play HNSR So Prob just gonna watch a full game walk through Lol

ripe berry Nov 4, 2022, 9:56 AM

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Me reading the chat's conversation's about how they messed up all the dates in the HN franchise now to make the AS:

ripe berry Nov 4, 2022, 9:57 AM

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candid harness Meanwhile in HN2 you play as a grown adult so to you it looks fairly normal

yeah

loud tartan Nov 4, 2022, 9:58 AM

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michael's reaction :

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https://tenor.com/view/skinenr-gif-20761908

Tenor

ripe berry Nov 4, 2022, 10:03 AM

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ripe berry Me reading the chat's conversation's about how they messed up all the dates in t...

Hey at least now we have a explanation of how in HE Lucy Yi's memorial has a Tamagotchi, which was made November 1996, that is implied to belong to her

ripe berry Nov 4, 2022, 10:03 AM

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loud tartan https://tenor.com/view/skinenr-gif-20761908

True

tribal talon Nov 4, 2022, 11:16 AM

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True

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So what did I miss?

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Haven’t spoken since the guest theories

tribal talon Nov 4, 2022, 10:17 PM

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lyric zephyr Fair

it’s literally just alpha 1.5 house lol

lyric zephyr Nov 4, 2022, 10:17 PM

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Expanded layout but yeah

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Tho it’s more akin to Alpha 1

tribal talon Nov 4, 2022, 10:17 PM

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Makes sense because of how long it was being developed

tribal talon Nov 4, 2022, 10:18 PM

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lyric zephyr Tho it’s more akin to Alpha 1

Well it has a chimney, but why is it more alpha 1?

lyric zephyr Nov 4, 2022, 10:18 PM

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Because the layout for the second floor is a more complex version of the HN2 A1 house

tribal talon Nov 4, 2022, 10:19 PM

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Oh okay

lyric zephyr Nov 4, 2022, 10:19 PM

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tribal talon Nov 4, 2022, 10:19 PM

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is the one farthest from the camera floor one?

lyric zephyr Nov 4, 2022, 10:19 PM

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Nope that’s the attic I think

median stirrup Nov 4, 2022, 10:19 PM

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3rd floor more than attic

lyric zephyr Nov 4, 2022, 10:19 PM

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True

tribal talon Nov 4, 2022, 10:20 PM

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Oh I was looking at it backwards lol

median stirrup Nov 4, 2022, 10:20 PM

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idk how the rooms have those kinds of shapes when the house is nearly a perfect rectangular shape but I'm not going to ask

tribal talon Nov 4, 2022, 10:21 PM

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It kinda reminds me of wide house, but less wide

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basically it’s just big

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Which I like a lot

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Plus a complex layout with a lot of rooms is great too

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and in vr

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okay I am excited

lyric zephyr Nov 4, 2022, 10:22 PM

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median stirrup idk how the rooms have those kinds of shapes when the house is nearly a perfect ...

I’d guess thicker walls

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Just the house exterior is square but the interior is angled with thick walls

tribal talon Nov 4, 2022, 10:22 PM

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lyric zephyr

you can even see the hallway in the announcement trailer where the guest trips on the second floor

median stirrup Nov 4, 2022, 10:22 PM

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lyric zephyr Just the house exterior is square but the interior is angled with thick walls

even then it barely makes sense but I guess yeah

candid harness Nov 4, 2022, 11:12 PM

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median stirrup idk how the rooms have those kinds of shapes when the house is nearly a perfect ...

I think the outside of the house and the inside aren't really going to match at all

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There's some windows that look into the house, but some windows on the first floor are blocked by curtains which I think means they don't really lead anywhere

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So basically it's a different house disguised as act 1

median stirrup Nov 4, 2022, 11:15 PM

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yeah probably

lyric zephyr Nov 4, 2022, 11:17 PM

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The Fake_House of Neighbor_Fake

noble viper Nov 4, 2022, 11:38 PM

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lyric zephyr Just the house exterior is square but the interior is angled with thick walls

It wouldn't look like that on the plan though, so it's just "wrong"

median stirrup Nov 4, 2022, 11:41 PM

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Luiluix the architect

noble viper Nov 4, 2022, 11:42 PM

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👷

candid harness Nov 5, 2022, 7:08 AM

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lyric zephyr The Fake_House of Neighbor_Fake

I mean it is basically the HN2 alpha house

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So you aren't wrong

ripe berry Nov 5, 2022, 12:51 PM

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yeah

jovial mural Nov 5, 2022, 5:16 PM

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candid harness So in the eyes of the character the house looks much more tall and menacing

I always liked this explanation for something like secret neighbor, instead of something like "it never actually happened!! it was just their plan!! they never actually went into Petersons house!!", because what would the point of secret neighbor be besides existing as a below average game?
I personally believed they were creeped out by Mr. Petersons house because that's where Nicky went missing, so to them the house felt more big and maze like, because it could be full of creepy things if the guy that owns the house would just casually kidnap a kid.

tribal talon Nov 5, 2022, 6:30 PM

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Is the shows cannon?

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Aka just the one episode

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Or two I forgot

oblique drum Nov 5, 2022, 6:32 PM

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the pilot?

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nope

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but the new episodes which are canon are coming out on dec 6th/1st

latent cosmos Nov 5, 2022, 6:34 PM

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It's technically a test pilot

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Aka episode 0

tribal talon Nov 6, 2022, 6:00 AM

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Yea that’s what I’m talking about sorry

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Nice to meet y’all two btw

tribal talon Nov 6, 2022, 1:06 PM

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Hi

ripe berry Nov 6, 2022, 2:03 PM

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hello

tribal talon Nov 6, 2022, 2:06 PM

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hello

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what do you thnk the point of hello neighbour vr is

ripe berry Nov 6, 2022, 2:15 PM

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Hello Neighbor VR seems to be the plan to save Nicky that you play through in SN but actually put into action

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There's nothing saying it's fake, heck the nightmare sequences that have been mentioned to be in the game kinda confirm that some of it has to be reality

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or the HN reality at least

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Anyways how bad will AS mess up the timeline?

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I know about the Trinity retcon making her new to town, and also how Act 1 must now happen in either 2007 or 2008

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But is there anything else they've retconned

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or did Mayak tomfoolery to to allow it to exist without retconning anything

solid dew Nov 6, 2022, 2:28 PM

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without trinity would the kids even have exposed the forest protectors

ripe berry Nov 6, 2022, 2:28 PM

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The Trinity being replaced by Ivan(Inventor) in the timeline theory:

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(this allows for the Forest Protectors to still be exposed without Trinity in the town)

hazy slate Nov 6, 2022, 2:33 PM

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I honestly hope AS is a seperate universe

ripe berry Nov 6, 2022, 2:33 PM

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It's meant to wrap around the stories of HN1 and HN2

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Making it so that if AS isn't canon, then neither is HN2

hazy slate Nov 6, 2022, 2:34 PM

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This is a disaster waiting to happen

ripe berry Nov 6, 2022, 2:34 PM

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ripe berry Making it so that if AS isn't canon, then neither is HN2

Because the 2 are kinda intertwined (even being written by the same people)

hazy slate Nov 6, 2022, 2:35 PM

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I just wish book 8 would hurry up and get here.

ripe berry Nov 6, 2022, 2:35 PM

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hazy slate This is a disaster waiting to happen

The Mayak on it's way to completely mess up the timeline for no fricking reason:

ripe berry Nov 6, 2022, 2:37 PM

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hazy slate I just wish book 8 would hurry up and get here.

AlexN on his way to retcon Book 8 out of the timeline 0.000001 picoseconds after it comes out:

solid dew Nov 6, 2022, 2:37 PM

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can't wait for hn3 as a sequel to reset day

ripe berry Nov 6, 2022, 2:38 PM

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ripe berry AlexN on his way to retcon Book 8 out of the timeline 0.000001 picoseconds after...

(It didn't work with the lore of the AS episode dropping that day)

hazy slate Nov 6, 2022, 2:39 PM

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No offense to the animators and people behind it, but I got a funny feeling that AS is gonna be garbage.

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I don't know why, maybe it's due to all the retcons going on and the amount of lore being screwed up.

ripe berry Nov 6, 2022, 2:40 PM

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AlexN said they made the retcons because they "wanted to tell a really good story that would wrap HN1 and HN2 together and beyond"

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yeah he apparently thinks that these 18 10-12 minute episodes are gonna have a really good story, but we'll see about that

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(I don't think they will but I'd be glad if I'm proven wrong)

hazy slate Nov 6, 2022, 2:42 PM

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ripe berry AlexN said they made the retcons because they "wanted to tell a *really* good st...

Carly anne west made a really good story

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it's a shame that half of their work is getting thrown into the dumpster

ripe berry Nov 6, 2022, 2:44 PM

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Again AlexN said "the story in the books was phenomenal, it jsut doesn't adapt well to animation" (and yes he made that typo not me)

hazy slate Nov 6, 2022, 2:44 PM

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hazy slate Carly anne west made a really good story

(With the exception of book 3)

solid dew Nov 6, 2022, 2:44 PM

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alternatively we can just have two different versions of the canon hn story and confuse ourselves

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one that doesn't explain the forest protectors and luck devices and timeloops and one that does

hazy slate Nov 6, 2022, 2:45 PM

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solid dew one that doesn't explain the forest protectors and luck devices and timeloops an...

They should seriously have them be seperate universes

ripe berry Nov 6, 2022, 2:46 PM

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everyone at tinyBuild (+ tinyCrow I guess) when you dare mention the possibility of there being more then one universe: N O .

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They want the lore to be impossible to figure out

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(also AlexN indirectly confirmed that HN2 was set in 1997 but isn't anymore)

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tinyBuild on their way to completely mess up the timeline and blame it all on the Funni Eyeball Building:

hazy slate Nov 6, 2022, 2:48 PM

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How does a weather station literally screw up space and time? Shouldn't the storm be doing that?

ripe berry Nov 6, 2022, 2:49 PM

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The Funni Eyeball Building controls that storm as far as I'm aware

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(We use Mayak to refer to the weather station but why would the devs use it to refer to the storm?)

median stirrup Nov 6, 2022, 2:55 PM

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ripe berry tinyBuild on their way to completely mess up the timeline and blame it all on th...

you mean the thing that doesn't exist in the story anymore?

ripe berry Nov 6, 2022, 2:55 PM

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true

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at this point with all the retcons I won't be surprised if they retcon Raven Brooks out of existence

valid dock Nov 6, 2022, 2:59 PM

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yep

ripe berry Nov 6, 2022, 2:59 PM

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Someone needs to make a document explaining the state of the Hello Neighbor Lore with all of these retcons and timeline changes

valid dock Nov 6, 2022, 2:59 PM

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so true

ripe berry Nov 6, 2022, 3:00 PM

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Like again Act 1 is now in 2007

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Trinity Bales doesn't exist for like the First half of the timeline now

median stirrup Nov 6, 2022, 3:00 PM

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when did they say it was 2007

valid dock Nov 6, 2022, 3:00 PM

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idk

ripe berry Nov 6, 2022, 3:01 PM

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median stirrup when did they say it was 2007

It's a assumption because that's when the first smartphones were made IRL

valid dock Nov 6, 2022, 3:01 PM

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yes

median stirrup Nov 6, 2022, 3:01 PM

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they got 50s TVs in there so it doesn't really have to follow

valid dock Nov 6, 2022, 3:02 PM

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but its a game and timelines go meh

ripe berry Nov 6, 2022, 3:02 PM

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(I know technology works differently in the HN universe, but that's just to explain the 50's TVs in Act 3)

median stirrup Nov 6, 2022, 3:02 PM

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might as well be 2004 but they got smartphones because funny

valid dock Nov 6, 2022, 3:02 PM

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lol

ripe berry Nov 6, 2022, 3:03 PM

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All we know is AS has retconned stuff to be after 1997

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"a bit later" (as AlexN has said)

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If Alex | CEO (AlexN) had given us the year AS takes place in then we wouldn't be as confused about the timeline

valid dock Nov 6, 2022, 3:05 PM

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i have a theory

ripe berry Nov 6, 2022, 3:05 PM

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Yes?

valid dock Nov 6, 2022, 3:05 PM

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Steve Jobs

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inventer of iphone

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may have found a raven book phone and made a better copy

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so

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yea

ripe berry Nov 6, 2022, 3:10 PM

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Hello Neighbor Lore:

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How much of the books do you guys think is still canon

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(aka won't be retconned by AS)

valid dock Nov 6, 2022, 3:15 PM

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case and point

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if they where retconned why have them

ripe berry Nov 6, 2022, 3:16 PM

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They weren't meant to be retconned

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At least not when they were being written

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But now it is

valid dock Nov 6, 2022, 3:17 PM

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but say this 2 years after thay stop makeing books

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they retconned them

hazy slate Nov 6, 2022, 3:19 PM

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Why are you saying "Thank god"? This is a bad thing!

valid dock Nov 6, 2022, 3:19 PM

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sorry

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there

hazy slate Nov 6, 2022, 3:19 PM

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Literally the entire lore is being destroyed

valid dock Nov 6, 2022, 3:20 PM

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yep

ripe berry Nov 6, 2022, 3:20 PM

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Now's your chance to add more kid classes SN!

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Now while they're destroying the lore that is the entire reason you haven't added more kid classes!

hazy slate Nov 6, 2022, 3:22 PM

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literally the only pro that could ever come from this

ripe berry Nov 6, 2022, 3:22 PM

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and they're probably not going to add more kid classes anyways

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~~because they only like messing with the lore when we hate it~~

hazy slate Nov 6, 2022, 3:23 PM

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How to fix AS: Replace trinity with Ivan, delroy, or scout, and then fix the dates.

tribal talon Nov 6, 2022, 3:24 PM

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what is as

ripe berry Nov 6, 2022, 3:24 PM

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Bu- but the Smortphanes!

ripe berry Nov 6, 2022, 3:24 PM

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tribal talon what is as

Animated Series

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The cartoon

hazy slate Nov 6, 2022, 3:24 PM

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ripe berry Bu- but the Smortphanes!

that's why I said fix the dates.

tribal talon Nov 6, 2022, 3:24 PM

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oh who is ivan and delroy

hazy slate Nov 6, 2022, 3:25 PM

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the smartphones are honestly stupid, I hope they retcon them

ripe berry Nov 6, 2022, 3:25 PM

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tribal talon oh who is ivan and delroy

Ivan is Inventor from SN

hazy slate Nov 6, 2022, 3:25 PM

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tribal talon oh who is ivan and delroy

delroy is bagger

ripe berry Nov 6, 2022, 3:25 PM

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Delroy is Bagger from SN

tribal talon Nov 6, 2022, 3:25 PM

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how do yo guys no so much

hazy slate Nov 6, 2022, 3:25 PM

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tribal talon how do yo guys no so much

because we actually live in raven brooks (Real)

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(Alex told us)

ripe berry Nov 6, 2022, 3:26 PM

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We know a lot about the lore because we've read the books and are keeping a eye on every message Alex | CEO has sent on this Discord

hazy slate Nov 6, 2022, 3:26 PM

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You know there is honestly a chance AS is the reason why book 8 doesn't exist

tribal talon Nov 6, 2022, 3:27 PM

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i need to get the books

ripe berry Nov 6, 2022, 3:27 PM

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hazy slate You know there is honestly a chance AS is the reason why book 8 doesn't exist

yeah

hazy slate Nov 6, 2022, 3:28 PM

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Poor Piper, possibly stuck in scrap land with Andrew and gray manor

ripe berry Nov 6, 2022, 3:28 PM

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tribal talon i need to get the books

The "keeping a eye on every message Alex | CEO has sent" thing is how we know about Delroy and Ivan's names

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He's also implied that we may already have Scout's name but don't know it's referring to them

ripe berry Nov 6, 2022, 3:29 PM

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hazy slate Poor Piper, possibly stuck in scrap land with Andrew and gray manor

and Beatrix

tribal talon Nov 6, 2022, 3:29 PM

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i think scout is kate

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kate is written in nog simming

ripe berry Nov 6, 2022, 3:31 PM

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Nog Simming itself isn't canon but the names mentioned (Leslie, Nielsen, and possibly Kate) are

tribal talon Nov 6, 2022, 3:32 PM

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what is it anyway

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i never understood it

ripe berry Nov 6, 2022, 3:33 PM

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Think of it as a Fan-Story that one the people at tinyBuild wrote

tribal talon Nov 6, 2022, 3:33 PM

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and then i stopped reading it at chapter 5

tribal talon Nov 6, 2022, 3:33 PM

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ripe berry Think of it as a Fan-Story that one the people at tinyBuild wrote

oh

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it had a good potential to be canon

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by what i read

ripe berry Nov 6, 2022, 3:35 PM

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If it was canon it'd be during the events of Hello Engineer

tribal talon Nov 6, 2022, 3:35 PM

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how and why

ripe berry Nov 6, 2022, 3:36 PM

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In the intro to Hello Engineer it mentions the cops are currently investigating a missing case of some kind

tribal talon Nov 6, 2022, 3:36 PM

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and hello enginear is related to that

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i see

ripe berry Nov 6, 2022, 3:36 PM

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Before they came out and said Nog Simming isn't canon we thought this was referring to the events of Nog Simming

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Now, it is instead referring to Nicky's Missing Case

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But back then we didn't know that was what it was referring to

tribal talon Nov 6, 2022, 3:38 PM

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i will start again read it from chapter 1

ripe berry Nov 6, 2022, 3:39 PM

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Then again why would they allow us to vote for how the story of the games play out

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and books

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and other stuff

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Because so far they haven't made alternate universes

tribal talon Nov 6, 2022, 3:47 PM

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there will be a whole hello neighbour multiverse saga

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oh my god

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imagine that with fnaf

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i would feel bad for matpat

valid dock Nov 6, 2022, 3:50 PM

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tribal talon i would feel bad for matpat

yep

hazy slate Nov 6, 2022, 3:51 PM

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ripe berry He's also implied that we may already have Scout's name but don't know it's refe...

Chloe

valid dock Nov 6, 2022, 3:52 PM

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.

tribal talon Nov 6, 2022, 3:55 PM

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hazy slate Chloe

who the hell told you

valid dock Nov 6, 2022, 4:06 PM

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tribal talon who the hell told you

bruh

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"who the hell told you"

ripe berry Nov 6, 2022, 4:13 PM

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hazy slate Chloe

Guidebook flashbacks N O .

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We don't talk about the Guidebook

ancient nymph Nov 6, 2022, 5:48 PM

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we don't talk about reset day and now the Guidebook?

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next Act 2

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xD

silent steppe Nov 6, 2022, 5:49 PM

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Reset Day is fine personally, guidebook is inaccurate

ripe berry Nov 6, 2022, 5:49 PM

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yeah

ancient nymph Nov 6, 2022, 5:50 PM

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I think that, the lore is really broken, Reset Day, the hole Hello Neighbor 1...

ripe berry Nov 6, 2022, 5:51 PM

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Don't forgor AS!

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Retconning Trinity's entire existence in the lore up until Book 3

ancient nymph Nov 6, 2022, 5:52 PM

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for me, Hello Neighbor 1 never happened (except for Act 1) Reset Day, also never happened

ripe berry Nov 6, 2022, 5:52 PM

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ripe berry Retconning Trinity's entire existence in the lore up until Book 3

and making HN1 happen in the 2000's

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Or at least Act 1

ancient nymph Nov 6, 2022, 5:53 PM

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We need for future games, people who read the books

ripe berry Nov 6, 2022, 5:53 PM

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(AS stands for Animated Series btw)

silent steppe Nov 6, 2022, 5:53 PM

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ancient nymph for me, Hello Neighbor 1 never happened (except for Act 1) Reset Day, also never...

It has to happen, but not completely the way people might think

ripe berry Nov 6, 2022, 5:54 PM

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ripe berry (AS stands for Animated Series btw)

(For the 2 people who don't know what the Animated Series is it's the cartoon)

silent steppe Nov 6, 2022, 5:54 PM

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Cuz the Nicky missing poster in hn2

ancient nymph Nov 6, 2022, 5:54 PM

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HN2 I think that has to happend like 2 years after the events of Act 1 (or buries secrets)

ripe berry Nov 6, 2022, 5:54 PM

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ripe berry (For the 2 people who don't know what the Animated Series is it's the cartoon)

and you can't make AS non-canon without making HN2 non-canon

ancient nymph Nov 6, 2022, 5:55 PM

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We really need Tinybuild to read their own books to make HN

ripe berry Nov 6, 2022, 5:55 PM

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But you can't have AS canon without messing up the whole timeline

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But you can't not have HN2 canon as otherwise we have no clue as to if Mya and Aaron's missing cases are ever solved

ancient nymph Nov 6, 2022, 5:56 PM

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They need to know the story, because they do things that makes no sense with the lore they were making

silent steppe Nov 6, 2022, 5:57 PM

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Arggghh

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This is painful

ancient nymph Nov 6, 2022, 6:02 PM

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silent steppe This is painful

again

ripe berry Nov 6, 2022, 6:02 PM

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and there goes half the convo because we got slightly off-topic

ancient nymph Nov 6, 2022, 6:03 PM

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xD

silent steppe Nov 6, 2022, 6:03 PM

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Yep

ripe berry Nov 6, 2022, 6:04 PM

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Also if they just completely remove Trinity from the Aaron Trilogy with no replacement then they've made the biggest mess in the entire lore

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Since Trinity played a key role in exposing the forest protectors

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without her they probably would've never been exposed

ripe berry Nov 6, 2022, 6:07 PM

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ancient nymph for me, Hello Neighbor 1 never happened (except for Act 1) Reset Day, also never...

tinyCrow's gonna get mad at you since several times Act 2, the Act 3 pre-Big House thingie, and ending have been confirmed to be real

ancient nymph Nov 6, 2022, 6:07 PM

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noooo00

ripe berry Nov 6, 2022, 6:07 PM

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Well... Act 2 is real... just not how it's shown in-game

ancient nymph Nov 6, 2022, 6:07 PM

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a, so Quentin's gonna rescue Nicky, ok

ripe berry Nov 6, 2022, 6:08 PM

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Hello Neighbor VR: Search and Rescue:

ancient nymph Nov 6, 2022, 6:08 PM

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Well, also

ripe berry Nov 6, 2022, 6:08 PM

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Act 2:

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in Act 2's gameplay it's Aaron that saves you

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In HNVR it seems the Rescue Squad is putting their plan to save Nicky from SN into action

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possibly meaning they save Nicky

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Either way Quentin doesn't save Nicky

ancient nymph Nov 6, 2022, 6:09 PM

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so, if Nicky gets rescued, the simming papers of HN2?

ripe berry Nov 6, 2022, 6:10 PM

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The Game timeline goes: HNHS, Act 1, SN, HE, HNVR, Act 2, HN2, Act 3 + Finale, HND

ripe berry Nov 6, 2022, 6:10 PM

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ancient nymph so, if Nicky gets rescued, the simming papers of HN2?

HN2 starts the night Act 2 happens (most likely the case at least)

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So there's not enough time to take down the Missing Posters

ancient nymph Nov 6, 2022, 6:11 PM

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How can we survive with such a strange lore?

ripe berry Nov 6, 2022, 6:12 PM

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We've had a strange lore since the very start

ancient nymph Nov 6, 2022, 6:12 PM

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Are we really humans if we can live with that?

ripe berry Nov 6, 2022, 6:12 PM

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HN1 was nearly impossible to explain the lore of until HNHS came along

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But then even after HNHS there was still the question of what the Shadow Man/Thing was

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Then we got the Nicky Books

ancient nymph Nov 6, 2022, 6:14 PM

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And the thing that the shadow are Nicky's traumas

ripe berry Nov 6, 2022, 6:14 PM

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SN wasn't out until after the Nicky Books which meant we didn't know the full lore

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The not long after SN's release they started the Aaron Trilogy and got HGP

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Then they finally explained away the Thing

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but we still don't have HN2

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and AS is messing everything up

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(also it's implied Reset Day is canon through Hello Engineer)

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So we never got the full picture

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and at this point probably never will

ancient nymph Nov 6, 2022, 6:19 PM

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Tiny build, if you read this, make like a Guidebook with the full lore, or something like FNAF did

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please

ripe berry Nov 6, 2022, 6:22 PM

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They already tried

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it was s**t and full of mistakes

tribal talon Nov 6, 2022, 7:31 PM

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you know

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they should add a new class

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a customizable one like the old version and the power up we can choose from the existing class

ripe berry Nov 6, 2022, 7:32 PM

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But the LOOORRREEE!

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/j

tribal talon Nov 6, 2022, 7:32 PM

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it will be non canon

ripe berry Nov 6, 2022, 7:32 PM

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also maybe send your idea in #old-sn-feedback-and-bugs

hazy slate Nov 6, 2022, 7:58 PM

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ripe berry *Guidebook flashbacks* N O .

Muhahahaha

hazy slate Nov 6, 2022, 7:59 PM

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tribal talon who the hell told you

guidebook

inner lichen Nov 6, 2022, 9:12 PM

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Okay, dumb discussion.

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Beatrix.

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Does she exist still?

strange lance Nov 6, 2022, 9:13 PM

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In the files for eternity

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no escape

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trapped forever

candid harness Nov 6, 2022, 9:14 PM

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She work at park

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Park no in HN2 yet

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But if park in HN2

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Then Beatrix HN2 probably

inner lichen Nov 6, 2022, 9:14 PM

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candid harness But if park in HN2

||Hey neighbors,||

strange lance Nov 6, 2022, 9:15 PM

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inner lichen Does she exist still?

She exists as a marketable pin :D

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inner lichen Nov 6, 2022, 9:15 PM

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I mean I guess

tribal talon Nov 6, 2022, 10:20 PM

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I hate Beatrix so I hope she doesn't return

tribal talon Nov 6, 2022, 10:21 PM

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inner lichen ||Hey neighbors,||

Does not mean hhsishdbts

tribal talon Nov 7, 2022, 1:56 AM

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tribal talon I hate Beatrix so I hope she doesn't return

Why

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She did nothi

lyric zephyr Nov 7, 2022, 1:59 AM

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She was the secondary character you'd play as with distinct cutscenes and personality different from Quentin

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It was cool

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Just an alternate story lol

tribal talon Nov 7, 2022, 4:36 AM

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I had a dumb theory that Quentin is Aron and Beatrice was maya

manic dirge Nov 7, 2022, 4:40 AM

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i wonder was diane wearing a seatbelt when she died

tribal talon Nov 7, 2022, 11:13 AM

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Now why would they wear a seatbelt

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Wouldn’t *

ripe berry Nov 7, 2022, 11:17 AM

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I mean in the HNHS Trailer you can't see Diane wearing any seatbelts

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(and before you say anything that is Diane's arm not a seatbelt)

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Also Ted's not wearing a seatbelt which explains how he's like a foot to the side of the car in the Car Crash Sequence from HN1

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Or maybe Ted just got out of the truck, went to check the man in the truck, then went back to his car

candid harness Nov 7, 2022, 11:21 AM

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At least HN2's car actually had seatbelts
At the expense of not being able to see over half of what's in front of you

ripe berry Nov 7, 2022, 11:21 AM

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candid harness At least HN2's car actually had seatbelts At the expense of not being able to se...

Yeah

tribal talon Nov 7, 2022, 11:42 AM

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Yup

tribal talon Nov 7, 2022, 1:58 PM

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how did diane die and not ted

fast marten Nov 7, 2022, 2:43 PM

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plot armor

tribal talon Nov 7, 2022, 3:21 PM

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Any news on lore?

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Well I have a theory

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A game theory

young kayak Nov 7, 2022, 3:36 PM

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detectivewhat

tribal talon Nov 7, 2022, 3:36 PM

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Wait wrong chat

median stirrup Nov 7, 2022, 3:36 PM

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what...

untold quiver Nov 7, 2022, 3:47 PM

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I think we really really have to ask how canon is hello neighbor 1

toxic mist Nov 7, 2022, 3:49 PM

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very

tribal talon Nov 7, 2022, 3:50 PM

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It is or is it

verbal jewel Nov 7, 2022, 5:24 PM

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It's very canon

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Everything is canon

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Every fully released hello neighbor game is canon

toxic mist Nov 7, 2022, 5:32 PM

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It’s all like that because of mayak

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It sorta could be used to mask and bridge all the inconsistencies with the games

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But I believe there is a reason Nicky sees a windmill in act 3

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I bet the event shown from the HGP roller coaster is canon too cuz in alpha1.5 there is a hint that a disaster happened at the mayak

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all the other candies were hints at real world disasters

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If a disaster really did happen at mayak then it will be expanded on in hn2

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all we have that alludes to that happening with 3 kiddos are HGP, a section in book 4, and hn2 alpha 1.5

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Maybe the mayak is like the move Edward Scissorhands where the guest manifested somehow inside of it

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That would be cool

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I kinda hope the guest isn’t just something that only shows up in dream sequences in hn2 but if it does that sorta confirms how it really works

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nikita is creating a universe that is turning out to be more unique and dark then we all thought

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kinda begs the question if he built the first game off that from the beginning

verbal jewel Nov 7, 2022, 5:41 PM

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But tb is sugar coating it hard

toxic mist Nov 7, 2022, 5:41 PM

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mmm maybe

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it seems like all the hn games start out as passion projects first then get a bit…. eh

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warped

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HGP kinda proves that less is more

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crazy

lyric zephyr Nov 7, 2022, 5:45 PM

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Tbh I'm really thinking the Mayak being this interdimensional "fix-it-all" for the lore isn't gonna be a thing anymore

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Last we saw it was being used to create weather

toxic mist Nov 7, 2022, 5:46 PM

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I don’t believe in retconns they disappoint me

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If the mayak model is changed or doesn’t even appear in hn2 at all that would be sad

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Also the wiki says there is a weather station in hnhas is that true

wheat scarab Nov 7, 2022, 6:00 PM

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If you’re talking about the animated series, it’s mentioned in the pilot by the main characters when they talk about “Old Town”

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And they specifically mention that it’s abandoned

toxic mist Nov 7, 2022, 6:01 PM

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Alex made a post on Reddit that it’s not canon anymore

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#hello-neighbor message

wheat scarab Nov 7, 2022, 6:17 PM

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Yeah, he did say that

ripe berry Nov 7, 2022, 8:38 PM

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toxic mist Also the wiki says there is a weather station in hnhas is that true

I don't think there's a weather station in Hide and Seek as far as I can remember

gritty python Nov 7, 2022, 8:49 PM

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wheat scarab If you’re talking about the animated series, it’s mentioned in the pilot by the ...

when i heard it for the first time i really thought they were talking about some other weather station, because they talked about it as it was nothing "there's that old weather station"

lyric zephyr Nov 7, 2022, 8:58 PM

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Yeah the weather station isn't in HN1 or HN H&S

verbal jewel Nov 7, 2022, 9:35 PM

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ripe berry I don't think there's a weather station in Hide and Seek as far as I can remembe...

Well ya no most of the time were in the house

toxic mist Nov 7, 2022, 10:17 PM

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lyric zephyr Yeah the weather station isn't in HN1 or HN H&S

the wiki lied

lyric zephyr Nov 7, 2022, 10:17 PM

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They always lie

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Like how they tried saying Jay Roth died before Act 2 for no reason

toxic mist Nov 7, 2022, 10:20 PM

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bro once hn2 comes out they gotta change everyting

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calling the guest ted

ripe berry Nov 7, 2022, 10:23 PM

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What kind of wiki are you looking at?

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Bc that's def not the wiki we thought you were referring to

toxic mist Nov 7, 2022, 10:25 PM

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oh yeah its the hg one

ripe berry Nov 7, 2022, 10:27 PM

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Pardon me what the heck is this (circled in red)?

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I don't care that much about the Forest Protector thing, that's a easy mistake

toxic mist Nov 7, 2022, 10:28 PM

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chad

ripe berry Nov 7, 2022, 10:28 PM

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but what I circled (connecting him to Gordon Cleave) is unacceptable

candid harness Nov 7, 2022, 10:30 PM

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The wiki just loves completely making stuff up it's so funny

ripe berry Nov 7, 2022, 10:30 PM

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It cracks me up they put Mr.Peterson's height as "1"

candid harness Nov 7, 2022, 10:31 PM

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LOL

ripe berry Nov 7, 2022, 10:31 PM

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Also I hate they got a page for Beatrix but not for MitH

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there's a page for the HGP Good Ending but not the HGP Bad Ending for some reason

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Actually everyone's height is 1, not just Ted's

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(what does "1" mean?)

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Well except for Vandals, those thing's height is 0.9 for some reason

silent steppe Nov 7, 2022, 10:37 PM

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1 is average

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0.9 is shorter than average

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It’s so oBvIoUs

ripe berry Nov 7, 2022, 10:38 PM

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Also just gonna point out that

silent steppe Nov 7, 2022, 10:38 PM

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“Probs not too much”

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Where is a vandal pointed out as “Male”?

ripe berry Nov 7, 2022, 10:39 PM

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"What is this things weight again?" "it's probably not too much" "ok"

lyric zephyr Nov 7, 2022, 10:39 PM

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The Vandals have no confirmed gender, they’re merely rapscallions

ripe berry Nov 7, 2022, 10:39 PM

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silent steppe Where is a vandal pointed out as “Male”?

I have no fricking clue

lyric zephyr Nov 7, 2022, 10:39 PM

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lyric zephyr The Vandals have no confirmed gender, they’re merely rapscallions

Real dubious denizens

ripe berry Nov 7, 2022, 10:40 PM

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ripe berry I have no fricking clue

Prob made it up

toxic mist Nov 7, 2022, 10:40 PM

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ripe berry I have no fricking clue

they have a female a stock scream sound

silent steppe Nov 7, 2022, 10:40 PM

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ripe berry Prob made it up

That’s that wiki’s whole source page

ripe berry Nov 7, 2022, 10:41 PM

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silent steppe That’s that wiki’s whole source page

That's where this wiki gets half the info from

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The other half is stolen from the official HN wiki

silent steppe Nov 7, 2022, 10:41 PM

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Ouch

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Let’s steer this back to lore before the mods get mad

ripe berry Nov 7, 2022, 10:42 PM

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(Beatrix's page looks to be nearly a one to one replica of the HN Wiki's page)

ripe berry Nov 7, 2022, 10:42 PM

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silent steppe Let’s steer this back to lore before the mods get mad

Guest is a thing

lyric zephyr Nov 7, 2022, 10:42 PM

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Guest is a thing but not THE Thing

silent steppe Nov 7, 2022, 10:42 PM

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I thought GN2 confirmed that

silent steppe Nov 7, 2022, 10:42 PM

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lyric zephyr Guest is a thing but not THE Thing

Unless-

toxic mist Nov 7, 2022, 10:42 PM

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mmmm

silent steppe Nov 7, 2022, 10:43 PM

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Maaaaybe? Idk

toxic mist Nov 7, 2022, 10:43 PM

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close but no cigar

ripe berry Nov 7, 2022, 10:43 PM

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lyric zephyr Guest is a thing but not THE Thing

Here's the thing

toxic mist Nov 7, 2022, 10:43 PM

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ok but heres the thing

lyric zephyr Nov 7, 2022, 10:43 PM

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Ok but here’s the thing

toxic mist Nov 7, 2022, 10:43 PM

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get retro'd

ripe berry Nov 7, 2022, 10:44 PM

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ripe berry Here's the thing

The Guest is not the the Thing but the Thing is the Guest

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Sounds confusing right?

silent steppe Nov 7, 2022, 10:44 PM

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??

ripe berry Nov 7, 2022, 10:44 PM

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Let me better explain it

toxic mist Nov 7, 2022, 10:44 PM

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who remember the crow watch out window cutscene in the hnhas stage 1 alpha

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they shouldve kept that

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its still canon

ripe berry Nov 7, 2022, 10:44 PM

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The Guest is not the Thing, but the Thing has become the Guest in Secret Neighbor

toxic mist Nov 7, 2022, 10:44 PM

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and says a lot about society

lyric zephyr Nov 7, 2022, 10:44 PM

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There is but 1 being that The Thing fears

lyric zephyr Nov 7, 2022, 10:45 PM

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lyric zephyr There is but 1 being that The Thing fears

ripe berry Nov 7, 2022, 10:45 PM

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Dear god

silent steppe Nov 7, 2022, 10:45 PM

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I hate that joke but love it

lyric zephyr Nov 7, 2022, 10:45 PM

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Thank you thank you

ripe berry Nov 7, 2022, 10:45 PM

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hello? Jay Roth?, we found him...

toxic mist Nov 7, 2022, 10:45 PM

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lyric zephyr

isnt that the developer of baldiees

lyric zephyr Nov 7, 2022, 10:45 PM

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Yep

ripe berry Nov 7, 2022, 10:46 PM

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Anyways before this entire convo gets deleted

silent steppe Nov 7, 2022, 10:46 PM

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Steeering back

lyric zephyr Nov 7, 2022, 10:46 PM

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Man, the Alpha 4 Intro Crow came back for Search and Rescue

toxic mist Nov 7, 2022, 10:46 PM

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ok im boutta beocme the most hateable person here but the guest is the thing from hn1

lyric zephyr Nov 7, 2022, 10:46 PM

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Very lore

lyric zephyr Nov 7, 2022, 10:46 PM

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toxic mist ok im boutta beocme the most hateable person here but the guest is the thing fro...

Hatred.

ripe berry Nov 7, 2022, 10:46 PM

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The Thing is the Guest (in SN), but the Guest is not the Thing

silent steppe Nov 7, 2022, 10:46 PM

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Ok

toxic mist Nov 7, 2022, 10:46 PM

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toxic mist ok im boutta beocme the most hateable person here but the guest is the thing fro...

just.. not nickys thing

silent steppe Nov 7, 2022, 10:46 PM

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Understand

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What if the thing is like Guests Santa’s Scout?

lyric zephyr Nov 7, 2022, 10:47 PM

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toxic mist just.. not nickys thing

The Thing isn’t specific to 1 person, and it’s not a real being
It’s just, representation of Fear
The Guest’s main thing isn’t fear, but instead loss