lore-discussion

[median stirrup]

It's just the contrast that made it look like it

(It won't)

[urban fulcrum]

i know it won't but what if it did

[median stirrup]

We will never know

[urban fulcrum]

did any of yall get the deluxe

[lyric zephyr]

I did

[median stirrup]

I didn't have the money

[urban fulcrum]

oh

sorry to hear that

[ripe berry]

I didn't have the money

[lyric zephyr]

I just got my paycheck the same day preorders went up so I just got lucky

[median stirrup]

Lol

[urban fulcrum]

i got luckey sinece i got it free

[median stirrup]

I think I was like $10 short on my card but the DLCs don't look that exciting to me anyway

[ripe berry]

Also I'll probably buy the DLCs separate after the game comes out

[candid harness]

I hope they let you buy them separate

[ripe berry]

Same

When the game comes out

[median stirrup]

I'll definitely get late fees but I'm not very interested in the other two

[ripe berry]

Hello-Copter is the most boring one, can we agree on that?

[urban fulcrum]

Nov 30 of you got the deluxe Dec 5 or 6 if you got the normal

[ripe berry]

It's December 6th for normal

December 1st for deluxe

[urban fulcrum]

oh

[lyric zephyr]

Agreed, unless they somehow make like a whole case around it
Imagine solving the mysteries at a old inventor/mechanic’s house and when you solve it you get the HelloCopter

[median stirrup]

Which is unfair because people will immediately spoil things to people who didn't get deluxe

[lyric zephyr]

AKA the drone with a weird name

[median stirrup]

They won't

You just pay probably like 2.99 for an item and that's all

But apparently you can "solve puzzles differently" with it

[urban fulcrum]

i think that its no fare for normal players too also i don't think that tiny build will let the deluxe players spoil anything

[lyric zephyr]

And you’ll be able to pick up an item with it (it has a rope/grapple on the bottom)

[lyric zephyr]

They’ll probably add back the #spoilers channel tbh

[urban fulcrum]

true but people will make videos

i think

[worn echo]

Does Raven Brooks have a curse?

[ripe berry]

. . .

Maybe

[urban fulcrum]

kinda

[worn echo]

I just think that, because the sight of the crows aren't a good sign.

[hazy slate]

No, It doesn't, We don't know what you are talking about, anyway, Since halloween is over now, What are you guys doing this thanksgiving?

[jovial mural]

neibor

[versed yacht]

i remember someone thinking this was inventor

man

i miss those times

[sharp mica]

I don't know anything about the lore anyone mind helping me lmao

[tribal talon]

I would

[tribal talon]

But I have no idea

I mean I know the game lore but my mind is void of the book lore

[sharp mica]

tell me the game lore then ig

[tribal talon]

Ok

A while before act one

(Be minded that I will mess up a few things)

Nicky makes friends with the petersons

He also has the secret Neighbor kids as friends

So there was a festival and his friends ditch his club and get in. Nicky has a tantrum kind of and runs of kicking a ball starting act one

Strangely Nicky hasn’t seen mya in ages (petersons daughter) so he peeps through the window when he hears screaming

The person being locked up is aaron surprisingly but he doesn’t know that

(I won’t cover any other games unless like hn2 and secret Neighbor)

Nicky canonically actually never got caught

And got into the basement undetected

Before Peterson realised. Nicky gets chased down a hallway and captured

Animated series also happens here and before act 1

After he goes missing the secret Neighbor kids plan a break in (secret Neighbor there imagination)

Leader (Trinity) gets captured and thrown in too)

That’s all we know on the animated series so far

Meanwhile Quentin a detective is investigating raven brooks in hn2

That’s all we have so far before the full game comes out

Nicky after a month or two escapes and a big Timelapse happens and Nicky is an adult now getting kicked out of his apartment

Nicky heads back to his old home and the neighbours house is destroyed

Once he investigates he encounters a shadow man (representing fears)

He heads back home falls asleep

And the neighbours house is back and bigger then ever so Nicky runs into the house again

Gets into the basement and fights a giant Neighbor (this is actually a fan made ending ikr)

Gets into the house on his back

And goes through another long hallway before he gets to a white void

With a house and the Neighbor is trapped inside with the shadow man banging on a door on the other side

This is the Neighbor not facing his fears like Nicky did in the fear rooms so Nicky leaves and wakes up cleans up his house and the game ends

@sharp mica did you get that

[sharp mica]

damn yes

[ripe berry]

Well Imma tell you book lore is more complicated then that

I won't explain book lore

instead Imma send Gavin's Lore Doc which will make the book lore easier to understand (just know he removed labels for the events of Graphic Novel 1, Book 4, Book 5, and Book 6. and that the book order in the canon is: GN1, Book 4, Book 5, Book 6, Book 1, Book 2, Book 3, GN2, Book 7)

This is Gavin's Lore Doc: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1AcAI9lMucsQW_4F-20n6OdBkCnRdKZ0Ku4qTB6kpi20/edit

[tribal talon]

imagine if they pull an act 4 and then theodore wakes up and realises that everything from the start of the lore was a dream💀

[silver vine]

they prob just wanted a place where the cops could drive into, in order to test the driving mechanism of the AI

maybe when Quentin's boss showed him Nicky, he was still missing, and Nicky escaped a shorttime before Quentin arrival

since Quentin moves in during nighttime, I like to think that Nicky escaped that morning or aafternoon or evening

[silver vine]

*journalist, not detective

What if Quentin's boss showed him Nicky is missing, the day before, or the days before Quentin moved into Raven Brooks. We know that Quentin moves in late at night, so, I like to think that Nicky escaped in the morning or afternoon or evening, while Quentin moved in during the night, so he wouldve missed the information that Nicky escaped, and so he shouldve find it for himself

[tribal talon]

hi is hnd important to the lore? i know its mostly memories from missing pieces but i wanna know if its worth playing

[wicked heath]

for the lore, it isnt really worth it

theres no revelations here

[gritty python]

sorry for ask, but could you explain how do you know GN2 is before the book 7? i really want to know

[wicked heath]

bc back then, the neighbor isnt the guest yet

also, there doesnt seem to be anything weird about the town in gn2

[gritty python]

didn't he died in GN2? metaphorically or not?

[wicked heath]

they never found his body

and the guest left a piece of argyle sweater in the end

[gritty python]

but the town should have remnants from the disaster, what doesn't seen to have in book 7

[wicked heath]

the only remnant of the disaster is the factory

and the factory wasnt mentionned anywhere in book 7

[gritty python]

yeah, it's true

[gritty python]

what i mean is that the houses must have been destroyed, or even with a little damage

[wicked heath]

ehh little damage aint rlly worth mentionning

it looks like after the storm, things went back to normal again for a while

implied with the happy ending of the book

[gritty python]

yeah, makes sense

just another thing, what about the act 3 of hn, is it before or after all of it?

[wicked heath]

uhh idk. Ppl think its after

[gritty python]

i thought it was before because some ppl say act 3 is in 2015/17 and book 7 2021/22

[wicked heath]

yes, but i feel like theres smth more to it

[dry depot]

When does reset day take place

[wicked heath]

apparently in 2021 but idk

[dry depot]

Ok cause i was reading the book right now and it said enzo went missing but he was an adult

[mighty spindle]

Is it me or someone pushed ike to the pepper ment vent or something

[wicked heath]

yes

[ripe berry]

timing

[wicked heath]

mr peterson going for adults nowadays too

[dry depot]

Yea

And he would of gotten away with it if it weren't for those meddling kids

[wicked heath]

oh god...

[hazy slate]

wonder why Quentin went guest hunting in the beta

[mighty spindle]

Ig he’s a animal hunter 😔

[hazy slate]

he's going for the big game

[mighty spindle]

Ye

[pure patrol]

He wants to open a fast food chain called kfg (Kentucky Fried Guest)

[daring yacht]

mmm

[ripe berry]

You mean Missouri Fried Guest

[urban fulcrum]

[tribal talon]

My mistake

[icy hamlet]

I only just realised that the house in the Hello neighbor 2 alphas is the same house from Hello neighbor 1 alpha 2

[ripe berry]

and it's the same as the HN1 Act 1 house

[icy hamlet]

True

[ripe berry]

it's Mr.Peterson's canon house now

[icy hamlet]

Mr Peterson trapped in his own house though is pretty funny

[jovial mural]

they look cool but knowing Hello Neighbor they probably wouldn't be worth their price

[icy hamlet]

Aaron could be the guest

Why would the guest take over Peterson's house and lock Peterson in there?

[median stirrup]

That's not even canon

You're talking about a really early version of the game which was completely different than what we have today

And it was confirmed that HN2 takes place when Nicky is a kid, therefore Aaron is also a kid, did he randomly grow long limbs and claws? And started making bird noises?

[icy hamlet]

Ok

It does have long limbs sharp claws and does make bird noises. But why does it have a suit? The guest is sus

Guest definitely has a suit on

[median stirrup]

probably to hide his weird body

[icy hamlet]

He be kinda sus

I just noticed the guest has a big belly lol

It sticks out

Wait a second

Guys I figured it out

https://tenor.com/view/gruphictoria-gif-24804829

It's gru!!!

[median stirrup]

[icy hamlet]

The beak hides his nose and he has skinny legs!!!

It all makes sense!

And he has the same shoes!

And he stole dr nefario's gloves

[broken imp]

how i can get hook

[errant hazel]

Deep lore moment

[round geode]

Is that a savun reference? Does it mean the YouTuber savun is comming to the hn lore?

[median stirrup]

what

[wicked heath]

wot

[oblique drum]

im sorry
what?

[round geode]

Wah?

It's his username

[oblique drum]

oh

you couldve been more specific

[round geode]

Sorry

[median stirrup]

???

[round geode]

In the lore of hn,im waluigi

[median stirrup]

can you like

not

[round geode]

Ok

I mean no

[wicked heath]

stop

[round geode]

Ok

[round geode]

But only cause it's you

[wicked heath]

[silver vine]

it is def worth playing

[silver vine]

no

he didnt die

they cant just kill off the face of the series in some book

[silver vine]

They built an enormous wall, which wasnt there in GN2, bc everyone left the town easily. Piper's mother also says that they built the town to control floods

[silver vine]

its obv

guest is an urban legend, nobody even thinks hes real

but Quentin knows that hes real

and he wants to prove it

[median stirrup]

beta not canon 🤬

[silver vine]

ok

[gritty python]

damn, i totally forgot about that wall

[round geode]

The titan are passing the walls!

[hazy slate]

we don't care

[strange flame]

I understood that reference

[round geode]

Me too

But it's normal

I wouldn't say it If I don't understand it

[opal jackal]

No one acre !!!

[tame quartz]

i respect you as the lore master, you are the most knowledged on HN lore.

you and you only, have opinions that matter

[wicked heath]

umm

[verbal dragon]

mmumm

[ripe berry]

No, he can get stuff wrong with opinions

[hazy slate]

I wonder what even happened before Quentin got reset anyway

I wonder what the forest protectors were worshipping before Aaron exposed them.

[verbal jewel]

They don't have to worship anything

There not really a cult

[hazy slate]

true, but I wonder what they were doing.

[bronze burrow]

Hi

[silver vine]

wdym

[hazy slate]

I mean, What did he find, What happened before the guest zapped him back to when he arrived.

[ripe berry]

He found [REDACTED]

[silver vine]

we'll prob find that out in full game

[ripe berry]

kraa

[harsh bane]

Now that's what I call lore

[sacred wraith]

How did the get to Raven book when is in the amusement park

[ripe berry]

Amusement Park

Is in

Raven Brook

s

[sacred wraith]

I'm new to hello neighbor ok

[ripe berry]

Also the Guest seems to be a demon

(based off Hello Neighbor Graphic Novel 2: The Raven Brooks Disaster)

[sacred wraith]

Ok can u tell me the life so far well I played the fist game when if released but I was dumb and didn't care about the lore

[ripe berry]

Time for me to get Gavin's Lore Doc

Does this work?

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1AcAI9lMucsQW_4F-20n6OdBkCnRdKZ0Ku4qTB6kpi20/edit

Graphic Novel 1, and Book 4-6 are in the "Background, Prior to the Games" section of this

[sacred wraith]

I bought all the hello neighbor books I just haven't read them I got them as a joke

I'll read them

[ripe berry]

The books tell 99% of the lore

[sacred wraith]

Ok what do u play on

[ripe berry]

I play on Xbox

[sacred wraith]

Same

Have u completed the game

[ripe berry]

Yes I have

[sacred wraith]

I haven't im autistic and I get bullied for that and I'm dumb so I haven't completed it

I've completed all of the acts in the 1st ones

[sacred wraith]

Hello?

[ripe berry]

I'm here

[sacred wraith]

U haven't replies

[ripe berry]

sorry about that, I was a bit busy

[sacred wraith]

I'm playing 2 rn

[ripe berry]

Alright

[sacred wraith]

I like using the emojis

[ripe berry]

Ok

[sacred wraith]

Yeaaa

I just completed the game woooh

[ripe berry]

You having trouble with HN2 Beta?

Oh you just beat it

[sacred wraith]

Yea

No wrong one I completed it

[ripe berry]

Hope you're had fun with that

[sacred wraith]

I did I mean i won't stop playing there's some stuff I haven't done

Idk what the slick thing is

I meant stick thing

[strange flame]

You mean the thing that opens up the attic?

[sacred wraith]

Yes

[sacred wraith]

Go on the fan art I posted one

[ripe berry]

Is that image your's?

[sacred wraith]

No I help with it tho

[ripe berry]

I think the image was already posted

People without context will think you stole it

[sacred wraith]

Crap well uhh I didn't know what to type

[ripe berry]

It'd take awhile for me to check

since it's probably from awhile back

[sacred wraith]

K

[sacred wraith]

What's ur fav in hn2

[ripe berry]

I never really thought about that

[sacred wraith]

Heh mine is the mayors dog

It's cute

[ripe berry]

in case you wanna know it's named Skipper

[sacred wraith]

Ok the shirt on skipper is soooo cute tho

[ripe berry]

Did you know Skipper won't be the only animal in HN2 Full Game

[sacred wraith]

Will the be there

[ripe berry]

yep

Imbir will also be in the full game

heck Imbir and Skipper even have some new animations

[sacred wraith]

I'm soooo exited and it's not that far away from December 1st

[sacred wraith]

Yes yes yes yes

[ripe berry]

we even have one of skipper's new animations teased already

Lemme get the video Waffleboi reposted

[sacred wraith]

Oohh I want to see it

[sacred wraith]

Oh and I joined a fake hn 2 discord

[ripe berry]

(The video is from the HNG twitter account, Waffle just reposted it)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R9ZhsUSmwW8

This is the video

This is the animation for Skipper they showed us on the HNG twitter

[sacred wraith]

That is so fricking cute I'm a cat person btw I love any animals

[sacred wraith]

Oh and have u got tiktok

[ripe berry]

N O .

I don't run a yt channel

I do have yt

[sacred wraith]

[ripe berry]

It's just I don't post videos or anything

[sacred wraith]

It's fine

[sacred wraith]

When I saw the hn 2 trailer I thought the Baker couldn't catch u

[ripe berry]

She can

[sacred wraith]

Ik I used to think she couldn't

[sacred wraith]

Who is

[sacred wraith]

Who is the

[ripe berry]

Guest is demon

[wooden pine]

This is an interesting conversation

[ripe berry]

ye

[sacred wraith]

I thought he was Aaron

[sacred wraith]

Are u excited for the full game

[sacred wraith]

Hello

[hazy slate]

https://tenor.com/view/helloburp-gif-18794564

[sacred wraith]

😂

[tame mason]

wow.

[icy hamlet]

Haha😆

[sacred wraith]

[glacial scroll]

Chicken Alfredo

[scarlet pivot]

Is there any new books coming out?

[glacial scroll]

Chicken Alfredo

[scarlet pivot]

nice

[ripe berry]

Lore:

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/917937784134696980/1008458684713685092/6pxr4i.gif

[verbal dragon]

Aaron is guest.

[ripe berry]

https://tenor.com/view/helloburp-gif-18794564

[hearty tinsel]

It is Mario

[tame mason]

🤦 How may times is anyone going to say that?!

[hearty tinsel]

Forever

[icy hamlet]

bruh. hello neighbor 2 is set just after Nicky escaped so Aaron would still be a kid. and how did he grow long limbs, sharp claws, a beak and start making bird noises?

[loud tartan]

it's literally

a

joke

[wheat sphinx]

The guest is the thing

[hazy slate]

because of joke science

[fair herald]

hi

[oblique drum]

oh god

first it was mith

now its quentin

[pure patrol]

Maybe his in game voice actor who voices the noises he makes

Like his scream

[median stirrup]

1. no that's not even a real person
2. it was never ever stated anywhere who voices him

3. this isn't lore

[ripe berry]

4. true

[hazy slate]

5. Five

[ripe berry]

6. Nights At Fre-

[median stirrup]

feddy

[verbal dragon]

Nicky is Peterson's son.

[verbal jewel]

@quick dagger

[hazy slate]

@young kayak

[quick dagger]

No.

[quick dagger]

thanks for letting me know btw.

[verbal jewel]

Np m8

[verbal jewel]

@quick dagger sigh

[mighty spindle]

They aren’t even real when I googled their name it wasn’t no one so

[wanton night]

lore

[median stirrup]

so funny

I'm laughing

😐

[sacred wraith]

@quick dagger I love ur profile picture I love imbir

[silver vine]

the devs said that most of HN2 takes place when Nicky was a child

Aaron and Nicky are the same age

which means that most of HN2 takes place when Aaron was a child

which means, Aaron is not the guest

[silver vine]

...

[wheat sphinx]

Gaap guard quentin is/was any canon?

[silver vine]

we dont know

we wouldnt know until HN2 releases

[median stirrup]

It wouldn't make any sense, simply considering HG was just a much earlier version of the game with many differences, and the guard version of Quentin was literally never seen again after

It's just an earlier concept

[hazy slate]

hello guest could be it's own thing with how different it is

[ripe berry]

I've made my own timeline, tell me if I got anything wrong
1945 Mr.Peterson is born
1947 Mr. Peterson's Parents get philosophy degree
1965 November - Norman Darby goes missing, presumed dead
1983 Nicky Roth is born
1983 Aaron Peterson is Born
1984 The Secret of Bosco Bay
1986 Lucy Yi is Born
1986 Mya Peterson is Born
1990 Fehren Welt Incident
1991 Book 4
1992 Book 5
1992 Golden Apple Park opens, Lucy Yi dies
1992 Book 6
1995 Nicky Moves into Raven Brooks
1995 Book 1
1995 HNHS Stage 1 and 2
1995 HN1 Hospitial Scene
1995 HNHS Stage 3
1995 Diane Peterson dies
HNHS Stage 4 and 5
1995 Mya Peterson dies
1995 Book 2
1996 Book 3
199X AS ep. 2
199X HN1 Act 1
199X Secret Neighbor
199X Hello Engineer
199X HN1 Act 2
199X HN2
2016 GN2, Neighbor gets drowned by Guest, Guest becomes Neighbor
2017 HN1 Act 3, HN1 Act Finale, HN Diaries
2021 Book 7

Also sorry for the text wall

Realized I accidentally had removed Act 2 by mistake, my bad

[gritty python]

sorry to ask that type of thing again, but how do you know GN2 takes place in 2016?

[hazy slate]

I feel like diaries would be in 2018

because Nicky would have to fix up the house

[ripe berry]

It's just a guess

The earliest date

(Because of Mobile phones without a Home button)

[ripe berry]

Ok

[hazy slate]

and the house in diaries looks pretty clean before Nicky starts to remember

[gritty python]

so we can say that hn diaries is after hn act 3?

because my impression was that he forgot about the past after the dream

[hazy slate]

uh yeah.

that's kinda obvious

[gritty python]

yeah, I realized it

[tame mason]

Seriously?! Everyone should know that he's not!

[hazy slate]

what?

you clearly aren't educated properly on lore

Nicky is the neighbor's son and Aaron is the guest

[tame mason]

Nicky is not the neighbor's son.

I know.

Everyone should.

[ripe berry]

No Enzo is

[hazy slate]

Enzo is Nicky's brother

[hazy slate]

dude

stop spreading lies

[tame mason]

Oh my god.

[ripe berry]

Oh yeah right, thought they were cousins or smth

[tame mason]

what are you doing to me right now?

see, this is why I have trust issues.

[hazy slate]

speaking completely true truths

[ripe berry]

it's just trolling

/j

[hazy slate]

no

[tame mason]

Stop. I'm being bugged. I'm dying.

...

[ripe berry]

I said /j

[hazy slate]

all is proven lore

Nikita confirmed

in my DMs

[ripe berry]

Also isn't Maritza Aaron's sister or smth?

[hazy slate]

yeah

[tame mason]

I need proof.

[hazy slate]

Mya was the girl that died on the roller coaster

[ripe berry]

True

[tame mason]

Oh my Frickn God.

I'm not cussing.

you're welcome.

[ripe berry]

and wasn't Beatrix the kid class in SN with the slingshot?

[hazy slate]

Yeah

[tame mason]

jajcjcsdcjaijfiqefjioergtijwortgptrwg

[ripe berry]

Wasn't Quentin Ike's Father?

[tame mason]

stop... now...

[hazy slate]

isn't this bagger?

[hazy slate]

yes

[tame mason]

Holy.

[ripe berry]

No that was Dale Tapps

[tame mason]

...

[ripe berry]

Don't you remember book 1234567

[hazy slate]

oh

[tame mason]

Can someone save me? And this channel?

[oblique drum]

this is literally wayne de isiffe

[hazy slate]

I'm pretty sure he was confirmed to be bagger in book 8

[ripe berry]

That book was when they retconned the entire series

[hazy slate]

true

[ripe berry]

True there

[ripe berry]

They'd done everything they could've done and had to reboot it in order to make new plot lines

[hazy slate]

yeah

I remember in the old plot Aaron was the neighbor's son

[ripe berry]

Ye

[hazy slate]

kinda garbage story

glad they rebooted it

[ripe berry]

and wasn't Nicky the kid that lived next door to Aaron and the Neighbor in the old plot

[hazy slate]

yeah

really bad writing there

[ripe berry]

I remember the way they allowed this was some kind of messing with time

[hazy slate]

some moron named lucy was the one who died on the coaster 💀

0/10 plot

[ripe berry]

It seemed like they were going to at the end of the books correct time back to the old plot but the writer had died before the final book could be finished forever leaving us in the current plot

[hazy slate]

yeah

new plot is 10x better though

[ripe berry]

I remember the name Trinity was important in the old plot, I don't remember their role in the new plot

[hazy slate]

I don't think they exist

[ripe berry]

Did book 1234567 really mess up the lore that bad?

Who am I kidding

It did

Unpopular opinion: I liked old plot a little more then the current plot

[hazy slate]

dude

how could you like the old plot?

[ripe berry]

Remember, Andrew was literally a god in the old plot, now he's just a school janitor

[hazy slate]

the old plot was where totally trustworthy critics said HN "OFFICIALLY DIED"

the reboot is better

[ripe berry]

This is the only thing they shouldn't have changed from the old plot

[hazy slate]

true

[ripe berry]

I heard a rumor they're getting a new writer to finish up the book series to make all books past 1234567 non-canon

That'd be kinda sad tbh

If it's true

[hazy slate]

yeah

anyway

I'm gonna activate the joke ender 9000 since this is getting too stretched out

[ripe berry]

Yep

[hazy slate]

here we go

https://tenor.com/view/universe-stars-galaxy-outer-space-gif-8700617

okay

[ripe berry]

Joke ended

[hazy slate]

anyway, what do you think the guest did to Quentin in the beta intro?

[ripe berry]

I know what the Guest did

he-

Hold on

Someone's at my door

brb

[hazy slate]

ok

[ripe berry]

(and he was never heard from again)

[verbal jewel]

Me when I'm the driving force of the story and game yet I have no personality except I'm crazy lol

[jovial mural]

fnaf:

[verbal jewel]

Huh

[tribal talon]

mr afton moment

[verbal jewel]

I thought he was mad because el bebe ate his daughter and his eldest son killed his son

[jovial mural]

he was always whacky and insane and quirky

besides his daughter I'm not sure he ever cared for his kids

[verbal jewel]

Lmao

Ted was just crazy

No personality at all

[tribal talon]

at least ted builds theme parks

[verbal jewel]

Actually Ted and William afton are very similar

They both build deadly contraptions that lead to death of kids one less guilty than the other

There both very skilled engineers

They both keep coming back

Both lost family members

[tribal talon]

one's british and the other isn't

[verbal jewel]

I mean the way Aaron and Mya talk

No American kid says "mum"

[median stirrup]

That's just writing lol

[verbal jewel]

Yes and if they were American they'd say mom

[median stirrup]

Not really?

[verbal jewel]

Nicky says mon?

[median stirrup]

Ok and?

[verbal jewel]

There British

[median stirrup]

Just because they said "mum" they're british?

Skipping the fact that Ted was born in america, and Aaron spent most his life there as well?

[verbal jewel]

Yes

[median stirrup]

Bruh

[tribal talon]

w h a t

i use mum but im not british

[verbal jewel]

Ya well that's a you problem

But knowing the hn books this is but inconsistent writing

As they were too busy going for cheap fart jokes

[hearty tinsel]

Mr Ego from Ratatouille Movie

[silver vine]

I mean, we cant really take that into account now

cuz in one of the script teasers for the AS, Trinity literally has a cell phone

[silver vine]

Aaron and Mya dont say "mum"

they say only mom

have you even read any of the books?

[verbal jewel]

No lol

[silver vine]

you are inconsistent

🗿 moment

[verbal jewel]

🤓

[silver vine]

the word "mum" doesnt even appear in any of the books

[verbal jewel]

Oh ya

Prove it

[silver vine]

you yourself "invent" this inconsistency and complain about it

[silver vine]

...

HOW?

[verbal jewel]

Exactly

[silver vine]

...

you say you did not read any of the books

and Ive read every single book

and have not come across the word "mum"

[verbal jewel]

Ore have you

[silver vine]

I have not

[verbal jewel]

Still

[silver vine]

still what?

Im a person who regularly re read the books and play the re play games

[verbal jewel]

I choose to believe my delusions over your facts

[silver vine]

hence, Im called as "Lore Master"

[silver vine]

why

[verbal jewel]

Why not

[silver vine]

you're spreading false information

and confusing others who havent read the books

inventing your own inconsistency and dumping the fault on the author who did not do it

[silver vine]

it is not inconsistent writing

stop spreading false info

[verbal jewel]

It ain't exactly a steven king novel level writing

[silver vine]

ok and

spreading false info hurts the devs

and me

you're criticizing the author about something which DOES NOT EVEN EXIST

[verbal jewel]

You don't know that

[silver vine]

...

thats it

Im blocking you

[verbal jewel]

🤷

[silver vine]

Im again and again saying that I re read the books regularly

if the word "mum" is used in any of the books, I would've known that

[verbal jewel]

And no person can remember the book word for word

[median stirrup]

If you don't even know them in the first place then you're the least likely to know

[verbal jewel]

Ore am i

[median stirrup]

Yes you are

[silver vine]

Aaron, Mya, Nicky, all call their mothers as "mom"

[verbal jewel]

Ore do they

[silver vine]

the word "mom" is used in the books very regularly

[verbal jewel]

Ore is it

[silver vine]

if "mum" was used any where, I would've known that

[silver vine]

it is

[verbal jewel]

Ore would you

[silver vine]

I would

[median stirrup]

Diamond ore

[silver vine]

iron ore

[verbal jewel]

Dam the so called lore master using spelling mistakes to justify his very light knowledge of the books

[median stirrup]

You're just delusional

[verbal jewel]

Or am I?

[median stirrup]

Anyway

[verbal jewel]

Or is it

[median stirrup]

Yes

[verbal jewel]

Anyway I had my fun

[median stirrup]

Or did you

[verbal jewel]

Yes~

[silver vine]

prove that I have very light knowledge of the books

[verbal jewel]

Book 5 page 5 word 9

Now

[median stirrup]

Probably fart

[verbal jewel]

That would make this joke even better

[silver vine]

on

[verbal jewel]

That could be right

[silver vine]

who?

it is right

I literally have all the books right beside me all the time

[verbal jewel]

Alright smarty pants, what's the teachers name

[median stirrup]

What teacher lol

Diane Peterson

[verbal jewel]

That's a day care attendant

[silver vine]

well, there are lots of teachers, but the teacher who appeared in most of the books and has a big role is Mrs.Ryland

also,

STOP

calling me as smarty pants

[verbal jewel]

The old crone from buried secrets I believe, she calms the class when they talk about forest protectors

[silver vine]

Diane is an elementary school teacher 🗿

[verbal jewel]

Fake news

[silver vine]

thats

it

Im not gonna reply to you anymore

[verbal jewel]

K 👌

[harsh coral]

Peterson is secretly Peter griffin

[ripe berry]

True, technology is weird in HN

[median stirrup]

technology in HN is different than the real world

also cell phone doesn't mean modern touch screen phone

unless that was specifically said

[ripe berry]

Lemme get a image of what I think he's referring to

I think he was referring to this Script

Or this segement of the script

[median stirrup]

well

phone can mean any phone

not necessarily a modern one

just one new enough to be able to take a picture

we haven't seen modern phones in HN1 or HN2, which happen at around the same time

[ripe berry]

Yep

[median stirrup]

the first time we see modern phones is GN2

and then RD

at least I think so

[ripe berry]

I'm pretty sure you're right

[median stirrup]

but even then technology in HN is different so what I called "modern" might be like 2012 for the HN unvierse

I mean they use what looks like 60's TVs in HN1/HN2 even though it's 1996, even a rich person like the mayor

[ripe berry]

I personally think that with tech like TVs they keep the old design from the 1960's but give it the capabilities of what at the time in the real world is new technology

[median stirrup]

same with the vehicles, Ted drives a car that looks straight from the 40s, which yeah he could've gotten from somewhere and he just likes old cars but the police car also doesn't look any modern (it looks like a 60/70s muscle car or something), yet both of them seem to have a fairly well equipped interior

[ripe berry]

Again, I think the people of the HN world keep the old exterior designs but add new stuff to the interior of the thing

For instance, the TVs or Cars

[median stirrup]

or that's just the technology of the time for them

and it evolved at different periods, but other things progressed instead

[ripe berry]

maybe Idk

[median stirrup]

like uh.. weird weather and time controlling machines

[ripe berry]

Yep

Celvomn oot Wayron Croobs I guess

[crude dew]

why does such a meme exist rip

wiki moment
1% of the wiki is reliable, actually :/

[tame mason]

m-hm. Never trust that wiki. Heck, Quentin's photo is in the Ike Gershowitz section of wikipedia!

Talk about not reliable.

[tribal talon]

?

"Quentin's photo is in the Ike Gershowitz section of wikipedia "

[mighty spindle]

I’m never trusting the wiki ever again

[mighty spindle]

What’s the link?

[crude dew]

I attempted to edit the wiki for good multiple times, but
let's say the ones who have high ranks are not really happy to see the truth written
except, like one person, idk if Lui is still there.

I remember fighting with a literal child to keep an official render of Quentin on his profile...then got banned twice for replacing a cringe butt fan render (which had no lighting and terrible expressions lol), but that didn't stop me
so, like
if you write "Quentin Gershowitz" to google, or whatever we used as his name back then, not a super cringe image pops up, but something hopeful

also the last time I checked, a banned person (from here, so I won't mention the name) kept adding every single Guest image that ever existed(even the girl with Guest body from the second comic lmao), under Guest's profile
instead of adding the kra from HN2 alpha 1.5 and that's it
the books and the games should've been split in two, to begin with, imo

[median stirrup]

me when they removed the guest's page

and put it on theodore's

because neighbor is guest obviously!!3 ektyre

[crude dew]

me, when I corrected a grammatical mistake in a TITLE, checked a box which I had to check to confirm the edit, yet the page got lucked up from a bug, then a literal seven year old came to me, raging

they are unable to understand one expression, which is "multiple storylines"
sad

[young kayak]

it is lore here ?

[median stirrup]

this is still on the neighbor's page

[median stirrup]

neighbor guest lore

[crude dew]

I mean, Neighbor's care does have lore yeah
they messed that up too 😭

[crude dew]

first pic
masterpiece

a bean with arms and legs

[median stirrup]

how to be stupid

[crude dew]

we can talk about family relationships and such, but the most beautiful relationship in HN imo, is Neighbor and his car
it's pure love since pre alpha 😄
❤️‍🔥

[median stirrup]

so just because his badge texture, which is old, has "F." on it, and it's not his name, that means he now has a middle name?

[crude dew]

I was literally your pfp sometimes while I kept reading it, so I just avoid the wiki now

[crude dew]

everyone will have five names
see Ike
so everyone will be right

[median stirrup]

Dale Tapps Leslie 🥴

[crude dew]

sure

he's also a cultist?..

[median stirrup]

Quentin Norman Darby Gershowitz 🥴

why is there 3 Quentins

[crude dew]

I still wonder, what the heck was Smith (not) doing in the second comic
I just wanna know

[crude dew]

storyline change

[loud tartan]

na way

legs

[crude dew]

it's legs

[spice reef]

ahh

[hazy slate]

https://hello-neighbor-wiki.fandom.com/wiki/Ella_Roth Never forget

[median stirrup]

no

[hazy slate]

yes

[oblique drum]

place of death
13+ when she died

[median stirrup]

where is that?

the US?

[oblique drum]

i just clicked on this link

so uh yes i think

[median stirrup]

I just started reading this and

what the

yeah anyway

[oblique drum]

everything about this is just

[median stirrup]

ahem

uhh

hello neighboer 2

story

[tribal talon]

That's still in the wiki? I thought it got removed

[hazy slate]

it's not the real wiki

it's some 4 year old gacha user's wiki

[tribal talon]

Ohhh

[median stirrup]

ahem

anyway

[hazy slate]

anyway

lor of https://hello-neighbor-wiki.fandom.com/wiki/Rachel_Roth !!!!1111!

[median stirrup]

stop

[hazy slate]

I have now found bonnie's weakness

an 8 year old's HN wiki

[tribal talon]

Who tf are "Ella Roth" and "David Cruz"

[hazy slate]

^

[urban fulcrum]

what the heck

[daring yacht]

ella roth

stick person

[urban fulcrum]

is she part of HN lore because i hope shes not

[oblique drum]

are you being sarcastic

[daring yacht]

no these are just shitty ocs that someone made a wiki for

[toxic mist]

wow those are SOME shitty ocs

one of the MOST ever

[hazy slate]

whay

they R prefekt!!!!1111

[toxic mist]

imagine if they were real (imagine)

one can only dream

[tame mason]

Lehho.

Rolre.

[tame mason]

I don't think so.

Wayron Croobian.

[mighty spindle]

Bro their legs 💀💀💀

[daring yacht]

what legs

you mean the single arrow

[versed yacht]

Legs are overated, implant yourself into the ground

[crude dew]

what in the living
is this??!

[crude dew]

you guys act like the "the" wiki wasn't ran by a SEVEN year old for years

[livid relic]

I’m sure a lot of people have asked this before but

Is Aaron alive ?

I’m guessing yes but idk

[jovial mural]

I assume so yes

[young kayak]

hello, do you meant for modding or moderator ?

we have a open form by this link >
https://dyno.gg/form/8d3b2d8

[wheat sphinx]

13 yo has husband and kids?? Eww

Gatcha girl as photo?

[daring yacht]

imagine naming your daughter ramona (old granny name)

[wheat sphinx]

Someone ruined the wiki

Some little brats

[wheat sphinx]

Wiki says rachel

[daring yacht]

isnt this that one with nothing but the shitty ocs

or is it the "official" one

[wheat sphinx]

Ramona's daughter is ella (her mom?) bruh or not?

Cringe

No.

Fix the wiki guys

Not you guys in here

I mean that wiki staff

[oblique drum]

isnt that a fanmade wiki tho

[daring yacht]

yeah

[wheat sphinx]

Saul?

[wheat sphinx]

It is "official" wiki

[wheat sphinx]

Annalise? Wtf!!!

[oblique drum]

im pretty sure it isnt

[daring yacht]

this is the "official" one

youre looking at the shitty oc one

[wheat sphinx]

Oh the url

[silver vine]

first time we see modern phones in RD

then we see modern computers and modern phones in GN2

[median stirrup]

RD happens after GN2 no?

[silver vine]

which makes it all together weird cuz HNHS and HN2 has only old boxy computers

[median stirrup]

because it's like 1996?

[silver vine]

yes, RD happens after GN2

but RD was released before GN2

so, that was the firsttime we saw modern phones in the HN franchise

[median stirrup]

that's not what I mean tho

[silver vine]

now I get what you mean

you meant in the HN timeline

[median stirrup]

yes

[hazy slate]

I wouldn't be surprised if this was the wiki maker's name

[wheat sphinx]

Ye. Me too

[opaque crag]

Can someone summarize the whole lore for me

[crystal scroll]

Diane? Dead.
Mya? Dead.
Aaron? Locked up.
Hotel? Trivago.

[strange lance]

Ted's parents make Mayak station, they also blow up factory, also there's tunnels leading from the basement to Mayak and the factory. Ted goes crazy with his park rides and they kill people by accident, Bosco bay happens and shows one of the incidents, Ted and his family move back to RB, the park is made and Lucy yi dies to the roller coaster, Ike also is found dead in a peppermint vat in the factory. Nicky moves, he's sus of Ted, Diane dies then Mya goes "missing" and finally Nicky goes to basement and gets trapped. SN kids imagine SN events and stuff. HE happens at some point after and the kids get caught in a time loop, also Ted is trying to travel in time in the park to save his family. HN1 Act 2 happens, HN2 happens, Raven Brooks Disaster happens and the guest kills Ted and takes over his body. Act 3 of HN1 happens Nicky has ptsd and defeats his fear blah blah, then HND happens and he has memories again. Reset day happens at the end with the whole town in a time loop.

Time loops, Time travel, Guest, Possesion, death

The end

[opaque crag]

Thats the most cursed and non-sensical story I've ever heard

[strange lance]

Also I forgot to mention, the observatory in the park is used for rituals by the forest protectors to give off bad luck, as one I think Gordon was his name wanted Mya to die, but Aaron intervened making Lucy die, also there's luck devices as well giving off good and bad luck

[opaque crag]

Not like I understood anything, so it doesnt even matter

[strange lance]

Lol

[lyric zephyr]

I still don’t know when GN2 could take place

Like, Ted would be well known after the events of HN2, wanted posters, stories,
But he talks face to face with a cop during the flood

And walks away just fine

[versed yacht]

I'd assume it's been a few years post HN2, and probably just a few before RD

[vernal kraken]

I thought that was weird too and lowkey honestly was just like 'but is that really his face' bc at this point ynk

[lyric zephyr]

But still, the entire town should know of the Peterson case and of Mr Peterson himself

But oddly enough nobody does

[jovial mural]

yeah well he probably wasn't abducting kids at the moment so cops had no reason to be suspicious

🤷‍♂️.

[lyric zephyr]

So what did he abandon Aaron in the basement and try flooding the town with him inside, which would kill him?

If it was before then it’d be the 90s and nobody would suspect him, but if it was after everyone would know his face and name

[vernal kraken]

and they're not just going to forget about it lol

[lyric zephyr]

Yeah

[vernal kraken]

yeah

unless spoopy machine gave everybody amnesia about it

so they don't actually remember him

[versed yacht]

Maybe the guest pulled a Jedi mind trick on the cop or somethin

[lyric zephyr]

Somehow everyone forgets about the 3 missing kids and the man who build the giant park that killed Lucy Yi

[vernal kraken]

time loops tho

[versed yacht]

"This is not the neighbor you are looking for."

[jovial mural]

Mr. Peddleson is just that cool he got away with crimes despite being a wanted criminal at that moment

[vernal kraken]

at this point anything is possible imo

[lyric zephyr]

Doesn’t explain how Regina knows about the Guest (the Raven Man), a old town legend
And not a fairly recent town event with posters everywhere

[vernal kraken]

maybe he wants them to be scared of something

and can erase an event with a delusion of a monster that takes things away

[versed yacht]

Fair

[lyric zephyr]

Mr Peterson is probably on par with the Guest in terms of town legends in the future
The man who built the giant theme park, kidnapped 2 kids and covered up the death of 1 other, and fooled the entire town into thinking one of the missing kids had some involvement

[versed yacht]

I still wonder if HE will ever be fully elaborated on

Like

They get timelooped

[jovial mural]

Mr. Peterson - master gaslighter

[versed yacht]

But what's the effects of it

[vernal kraken]

imagine hn2 explains none of that or RD💀

[versed yacht]

Does he just effectively send them back to the start of their whole quest to build their car but now since they have their car now they don't need to do anything

[versed yacht]

I would be

Upset

[lyric zephyr]

Tbh it’d be for the better gameplay wise
A town full of mysteries not having to shove in explanations for things pretty much unconnected to it

Books and a spin-off barely canon game

[vernal kraken]

they pull a lol bamboozled you wasted 2 years waiting for answers

fhsbdjjsbd

[lyric zephyr]

Yes !

[jovial mural]

me when hello neighbor lore(I have no idea what it is)

[vernal kraken]

mood tbh

even knowing it

[lyric zephyr]

Knowing it barely helps

[versed yacht]

Hello Neighbor lore is the equivalent of getting a shelf from Ikea and somehow building a table

It's just

[jovial mural]

when you know, you know(maybe)(not garenteed)

[strange lance]

The only important stuff for HE is that kids get time looped, mannequins are alive, and that Ted is trying to figure out how to time travel to save him family. Also there are time loop/travel pits in the park, which I think is mentioned at the start of reset day. I do hope this is explained more in HN2 tho

[vernal kraken]

i like it for that tbh but at the same time it would bes djdjdbhsvdgdhs if there ends up being zero expansion on any of the topics introduced since 2020

ngl

[versed yacht]

Since when were mannequins alive

[strange lance]

There are multiple areas where there are dead mannequins holding chalk next to tally marks

[jovial mural]

since when was hello neighbor lore like this

[vernal kraken]

Teds time loop experiment victims

[versed yacht]

I mean

[jovial mural]

the hello neighbor franchise is an enigma in which I do not think I will ever truly understand

[versed yacht]

This isn't the first time we've seen kids turning into mannequins

[versed yacht]

The franchise of all time

[strange lance]

I didn't mean kids were turned into mannequins, I'm pretty sure he just made sentinet robots or something lol

If they were kids

That would be dark

[vernal kraken]

I was very disappointed tbh when they came up with that concept with the mannequins in SN and then said it was just imagination tbh felt like a let down

[jovial mural]

the hello neighbor series is one of the series ever

[vernal kraken]

it do be

[verbal jewel]

If the mannequins were robots Ted would be even more similar to Mr Afton more than he is 💀

[strange lance]

Also there used to be a mannequin in HE that was next to a chalk drawing of a portal

[jovial mural]

real

[strange lance]

Ted needs to let go and just give up stop ruining your life 😬

[verbal jewel]

Nah but Ted and afton are very similar

Expect one lacks a personality

[vernal kraken]

which one is that

[verbal jewel]

Ted

[vernal kraken]

lol

[jovial mural]

a ""horror"" game for kids, of course there's an Afton equivalent

[verbal jewel]

Man was born a ai

[jovial mural]

:c

[verbal jewel]

Nah but like Ted never had a personality he was just "crazy "

[versed yacht]

I'm pretty sure the mannequins (much like most of the actual gameplay) are just in the heads of the kids

They see him carrying around mannequins which he probably was indeed using for his experiments and then he sees the kids and decides to use them instead

[jovial mural]

afton too

[verbal jewel]

Yeh

[jovial mural]

one in the same...

[verbal jewel]

Actually

Both have same stories

They both lose loved ones

[jovial mural]

game theoroid Willy Afton is actually Mr. Petersons alter ego

[strange lance]

Besides the chalk mannequins, there are just areas with mannequins in carts, literal GIANT piles of them and some in cages. Why so many mannequins bro

[versed yacht]

Probably just to show trial and error

I doubt he's gonna be able to perfect the ability to control time in just a few tries

[vernal kraken]

imagine the shop when their entire stock of mannequins are stolen overnight

[verbal jewel]

I mean I'd like if Ted had a personality I want something cannon and not the old head-claim stuff

[jovial mural]

Mr. Peterson discovering how to invent new life with mannequins so he can rebuild his family

[strange lance]

You want some real lore? GAAP and Ted are super cheap, they use used up toliet paper rolls as attractions. I expected more from Ted 😔

[verbal jewel]

Suppose we can say Ted is a family man? Cares about his family but that ain't a personality

[vernal kraken]

this the man that they claimed was famous for his inventions

[jovial mural]

gotta cut corners somewhere

[strange lance]

Also, half of his rides and attractions are made of rotting wood and cardboard. His swans for the river ride are made of cardboard, in a river

[vernal kraken]

depressing

[verbal jewel]

Ted makes a dys youtube "building a nuclear reactor with shoelaces and cardboard "

[versed yacht]

"are you sure hiring this Peterson guy is a good idea"
"absolutely, he's a genius in engineering!"
"sir he just showed me his latest project, which is a game of whack a mole with paper towel roles."

[jovial mural]

he's famous for his inventions because of the materials he used to make them

[vernal kraken]

imagine

[verbal jewel]

Ya but

Cardboard

[jovial mural]

uh-huh

maybe ur not open to the possibilities cardboard can give you!

[verbal jewel]

Maybe it's just how the kids see it 💀

[versed yacht]

Man makes an entire rollercoaster out of cardboard and wonders why someone died within 5 minutes of the park being open

[verbal jewel]

I do hope that was a stylistic choice and not Ted actually stealing ideas off of troom troom

[jovial mural]

Mr. Peterson steals the arts and crafts supplies from the school so he can create a themepark attraction

[vernal kraken]

tbf the book implied he knew it was going to happen because they didn't have enough time

[lyric zephyr]

Yeah, I doubt half the stuff is actually cardboard
Cardboard and makeshift toys are like a pretty common symbol of being in a kids mind in HN

[verbal jewel]

Yeh

The park seems too... big and mystic

[lyric zephyr]

Also, with all these games supposedly taking place after, it just makes me kinda upset about how HN2 will play out
Because by the end, Ted has to be free to do all this stuff, meaning by the end of HN2 he’s never caught

[verbal jewel]

Nope

[vernal kraken]

that's.... a good point

[verbal jewel]

Well

[lyric zephyr]

Kinda sucks!

[vernal kraken]

hmmmm

[verbal jewel]

Maybe Aaron will burn the house down?

[lyric zephyr]

But the house is still standing in Reset Day

[verbal jewel]

Hm...

[vernal kraken]

do we even know if that's still canon tho

[verbal jewel]

I don't take kindly to reset day

[lyric zephyr]

I hope it ain’t bc just those few details mess with the whole lore

Reset Day is weird

[verbal jewel]

Ok ok but

Ted seems to bw trying to escape town sooo

Maybe he dose get caught???

[lyric zephyr]

And I tend not to comment on the Aaron trilogy because I’ve only read the first one

[lyric zephyr]

But then he’s not, in GN2 he’s free and apparently can show himself to the police no problem

Which I can agree may be Guest trickery

[verbal jewel]

Love how Aaron has not fought back and just went along with being taken around places and locked in em

[vernal kraken]

lmao man wanted for the murder of his daughter, holding his son hostage and kidnapping a child is free to talk to a cop

[lyric zephyr]

Who’s to say he hasn’t? I mean what’s he gonna do around his 6’2 buff dad who constantly gaslights him

[vernal kraken]

me with my mom tbh

[verbal jewel]

Hsjdjdjd

"Now Aaron get in the trunk as we escape the police "

[lyric zephyr]

That’s only scratching the surface of his many crimes! Need I remind you of my list?

[verbal jewel]

Ted steals the moon

[vernal kraken]

no I was just going off what he'd be most known for in that town- at the time

[lyric zephyr]

Felonius Peterson

Ted has done enough bad stuff to get him locked away for multiple life sentences
I would really hate it if he got away in the end of HN2!

[verbal jewel]

Nah but hn1 we see Aaron screaming and trying to escape the basement while hn2 he just chilling and going with his father's uh hiding of him.

[vernal kraken]

it be like that tbh

[lyric zephyr]

Hell even before he moved back to Raven Brooks if all of his crimes were uncovered he’d probably be subject to a life sentence

[verbal jewel]

Eh i like Ted don't think he deserves all the heat put on him

Besides he can pleed insanity

[lyric zephyr]

Ted’s a cool antagonist, but man does he need to face some kind of consequences for his actions

[vernal kraken]

you get really frustrated with the situation but also can't change it and get made to feel like the bad person, I can understand aarons pov alot tbh

so sometimes the frustration comes out a little but most of the time you go along with everything to make it easier to live with since you know nothing will change

[verbal jewel]

Eh loss of his family is a punishment

[lyric zephyr]

That’s fair, but it only makes him worse

My mans unironically needs to be put in a cell and given mental help

[verbal jewel]

Exactly

I feel bad for him

[lyric zephyr]

I don’t tbh, for the most part

He does need some mental help, but he’s also brought everything that’s gone wrong in his life upon himself (except Diane and Mya’s death)

[jovial mural]

I sympathize with him but wouldn't really care if he got locked up

[verbal jewel]

The problem is he's not showing that sort of crazy, in fact he seems to be full on gone as he doesn't seem sad just... alert sorta mad like a prison escape

There's no grief Orr sadness he shows so his brain has fully went mush

[jovial mural]

he's just mildly annoyed

[lyric zephyr]

And I don’t really like 1 major plot point the Aaron trilogy introduces, which I may be lacking many details (which I am) but
Trying to make it seem like Ted’s past actions were of no fault of his own! His rides never were meant to fail, the BAD LUCK CURSE did that!

[vernal kraken]

yeah that was weird

ngl

like bruh

[verbal jewel]

That might just be Aaron trying to see his father in a better light

[lyric zephyr]

Not really, because there was an entire secret cult w a guy devoted to the luck device

[vernal kraken]

genuinely wonder if they plan on doing anything with that bc it felt so random

[verbal jewel]

Honestly the bad guys are Ted's parents, they started all of this

[vernal kraken]

and like why

[vernal kraken]

also a fair point tbh

[lyric zephyr]

Funky luck curse opens crow portal and kills a little girl thanks to the secret town cult!

[verbal jewel]

And Ted's parents like there son also lack any personality

[lyric zephyr]

Like why can’t they have it as Ted’s designs are genius, but flawed
Human error

[lyric zephyr]

Yeah Roger and Adelle have a major part in how Ted is tbh

Lisa is lucky she didn’t turn out exactly like him as far as we know

[verbal jewel]

Lisa?

[lyric zephyr]

Lisa Peterson, canonically Ted’s sister

[verbal jewel]

Oh god jsjs

[lyric zephyr]

Brought up in like Book 2 because Ted said Mya and Aaron went to live w their aunt (before he came up with the Missing Kids excuse)

[verbal jewel]

Me when my brother becomes crazy cuz mom and dad were a little quirky and pissed off a town cult

[lyric zephyr]

Nicky ended up calling her and she had no idea where the kids were

[vernal kraken]

honestly since they tried introducing that bad luck curse plot I've just imagined and wondered how many minor inconveniences of bad luck ted would have to have in daily life too
Like appliances not working or catching on fire, getting hit in the face with doors, tripping on nothing, just a bunch of embarrassing dumb bad luck things

[jovial mural]

amazing by design but maybe a little too ambitious

[lyric zephyr]

Didn’t he say like something along the lines of safety devices slow the ride down? Make it less thrilling?

I think I recall smth like that

[vernal kraken]

in the first book ye

[verbal jewel]

I swear to God if imbir becomes like the cat from Caroline

[jovial mural]

yea making sure your ride functions and is safe ruins the immersion

[vernal kraken]

masochism

[verbal jewel]

But then they also said Ted was forced to rush because pressure from the mayor?

[vernal kraken]

yes

[jovial mural]

I'll be okay with this if they give him that voice he had in devlog 1. that'd be a little goofy for a bit

[lyric zephyr]

Still, I hate how they try to make Ted blameless when he literally said in Book 1 he doesn’t like safety precautions AND the mayor rushed him
Nooo, it would’ve worked perfectly if Gordon Cleaveland Brown didn’t come in with the Magic Luck McGuffin and tried to kill Mya

[verbal jewel]

Though what will happen to Quentin... will he live to tell the tale ore shall he be forced to stay in raven brooks forever

[vernal kraken]

fr lol

it was unnecessary the whole luck plot🤣

[jovial mural]

why can't we have a villain who's just bad😔

[lyric zephyr]

Well then to be fair we’d just have another William Afton

[jovial mural]

or at least a morally grey villain. you can understand and sympathize with him but still see him as evil

[lyric zephyr]

Exactly

[verbal jewel]

Nah Ted was supposed to be a tragic villain but the issue is.... they literally made him a arse

[lyric zephyr]

He’s morally gray but most of his actions are bad

[vernal kraken]

lol

[verbal jewel]

He ain't gray

He just crazy

That's literally the explanation

[jovial mural]

he's supposed to be grey but they don't do a good job at showing that

[verbal jewel]

He was cray cray for the sake of being it

[jovial mural]

he just kinda bad

[lyric zephyr]

Book 1-3 captured this perfectly
His family is scared of him but they can have their amazing moments
Tickling Mya’s ribs, dancing with his wife in the living room, Diane’s present on his desk in the basement, but it’s always offset with something going wrong