#hello-engineer

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cedar citrus
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Today was awesome, thanks for making it a great update day everyone!

void basalt
cedar citrus
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Okay time for genshin, i pulled tighnari AND collei last night and now its grind time to lvl them ayeeeee

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dont break anything while im gone. ;P

void basalt
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I am about to go to sleep so anything that happens from now has nothing to do with me. blobtongue

cedar citrus
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Lol its okay, we have a jacky elmo_hell

void basalt
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Tony Stark may have a hulk but we have a Jacky

scarlet plover
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Neighbor in Multiversus

cedar citrus
void basalt
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I gotchu

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Anyway GN!

scarlet plover
void basalt
scarlet plover
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Gnight Aidan

lucid belfry
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as if jacky was a thing

native sedge
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Which is true because I'm kind of a machine

buoyant gorge
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do yall know if you bought hello engineer before do you still need to pay for a stadia subscription to play it?

sick gyro
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imagine paying more after you've bought the game just to get a good image quality

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though it's the problem of the stadia itself

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can't blame the devs or tB

novel flame
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HE is free with pro

steel rune
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AH i didn't knew that

steel rune
novel flame
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Well by default it's 1080p 60 fps at least

So you only pay if you want more than that

steel rune
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even if i pay i couldn't have more than 1080p

last comet
steel rune
last comet
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Nah, but really, yeah i can confirm that's the internet in France is uh

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kinda bad

mossy galleon
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I can tell that France doesn't have the best interent

random goblet
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top 5 hello engineer fails

steel rune
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frustrating

random goblet
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i love having to restart the level at the end because of the jump that flipped my car

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it also took so long

steel rune
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you could put it in reverse

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or you couldn't turn ?

random goblet
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time to do the awful jump again

novel flame
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rip

random goblet
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do i seriously have to do the level 16 again because "your game had a glitch"

novel flame
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well basically it crashed

random goblet
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oh yay i dont have to do level 16 again

novel flame
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I guess the game has checkpoints/auto saves

novel flame
random goblet
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wow its a big box

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i hate wiring

novel flame
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what is it

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what does this do

random goblet
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"dump truck"

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gunghjgnfi

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i cant attach the Big Box to the car i have been using for all the wild west levels so i have to make a new car which is fun

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gotta watch vgn (the only full he guide on youtube dot com)

keen adder
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i completed it all
i suffered alot in the delivery level but it was worth it

terse echo
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He wont arrive to pc right

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Cuz stadia is not available on turkey

proven surge
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hello engineer on steam/epic when

lucid belfry
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no

random goblet
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october something something

novel flame
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The exclusivity deal with Stadia ends when the game marks one year, on October 26th. But don't expect it to immediately be released on other platforms.

proven surge
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my internet is too bad for stadia

zealous vault
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can someone send me wholesome Neighbor cutscene screenshots?
I'm stuck at lvl 12 and um
can't check what's new clown1

buoyant gorge
lucid belfry
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lets see the neighbor

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HN1: a crybaby kidnapper
H&S: a depressed father
SN: a serial killer (who kills/kidnaps ppl for fun)
HN2: literally just a tired man, leave him alone gee
HE: a man with serious anger issues
AS: a freakin cannibal

lucid belfry
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no but he murders a cashier, has bones in his basement, orders sharp saws and beartraps, yknow

mossy galleon
mossy galleon
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Animated Series

buoyant gorge
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how'd the man go from crying while locking up children to casually murders store cashier

timid river
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Only in the hello neighbor universe does that happen

placid rock
buoyant gorge
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I mean it's interesting, just very far away from how the game seemed to portray him

swift locust
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This is the 2nd time it's happened, with the same plastic cube

fleet sorrel
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this is what you get for hello engineering

inland saddle
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Is there some sort of "cheat protection" on the doors code? I just tried every possible combination after getting 7/9 of the codes.

boreal rune
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Probably

inland saddle
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Well that's awful.

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I can barely get 300 plastic, getting 900 would be impossible.

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Including carrying TNT from who knows where all the way back to explode the rocks in the tower.

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And carry it with a flying machine. The physics are just way to unreliable for it to be fun.

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My car constantly slides everywhere and it's a pain to do anything.

boreal rune
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Did you by chance get screenshots of the codes? Hate to be that guy but a good majority of people here have found like 3 at most

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But yeah I totally agree with you

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The delay on the controls is

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Awful

inland saddle
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Ok.

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Bad server management moment.

boreal rune
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Man

inland saddle
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Well I guess you aren't getting the codes.

boreal rune
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Yeah they're randomized anyways

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Forgot about that

inland saddle
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Nope.

boreal rune
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They aren't?

inland saddle
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Not that I'm aware of.

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Time to double check.

boreal rune
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I'm pretty sure that the symbols on each are randomized

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Could be wrong though

inland saddle
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It looks like they aren't.

boreal rune
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Huh

inland saddle
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Even if they are there still the issue with having to do so many tedious tasks (and in one play session if random) that I doubt anyone will ever actually finish the "challenge".

boreal rune
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There's somethings that just don't make sense to me

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Like the plane

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You spend 200 plastic just to get 200 plastic back

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Anyways is there any chance you could send the codes to me in DMs? Would help a lot

swift locust
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I still have not seen this giant thing anywhere

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Where even is that

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Also the new foliage :(

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Where

fleet sorrel
swift locust
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Where else would it be shrugireena

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It had the big tent to build and the blueprints lying around

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What is that giant thing even supposed to be

fleet sorrel
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or just not there because it was added after the update we got

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also are the codes randomized between players

swift locust
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Yes

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The locations are the same

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But the icons are different

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Also has anyone made it to the island yet

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There's a chest

fleet sorrel
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you just need a really tall car

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or a really long extendable bridge attached to your car

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which i could really do with creating thinking about it

inland saddle
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Not even a tall car. Just make a normal car and put a pole on top.

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Then you sit in the seat on the pole.

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I wouldn't even know why they would add cheat protection when the lobby gets reset when you quit.

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And if there isn't cheat protection that means that they forgot to implement the door actually opening on the RV.

fleet sorrel
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i probably should have tried that again but having a really tall car seemed funnier at the time

spare matrix
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Breaking bad RV

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Is that a breaking bad reference

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Are you the one who knocks

whole girder
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Trying out HE again after a long time

novel flame
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Donut

lyric turtle
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I'm a noob, but the game made me an engineer anyway.

swift locust
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Alright, so only the 2 plastic cubes on top of the big wheel in wild west are broken

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Only those

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Why lol

keen adder
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i wonder if anyone has made very cursed looking cars
like how goofy they look

zealous vault
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my man literally moves to an abandoned amusement park in HE
kids: aight, let's go to that exact place

lucid belfry
storm escarp
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it kinda

inland saddle
boreal rune
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He also has the bones of someone in his basement according to the AS script

zealous vault
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but the sad part is what I started the talk with

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I honestly don't know what would I do as a depressed adult, if kids followed me literally everywhere and fantasized about killing me
that's what they do in SN, let's be real

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they think the man is some kind of devil creature who they can shoot and he vanishes lol

zealous vault
# lucid belfry im not

also I'm not in charge to explain the HN lore to people but
why in the living hÄll would he be a kidnapper*, he keeps one child in his basement because the kid saw too much after going to his basement on his own, but luckily the kid escapes, everyone happy
Aaron is a different thing, obviously

*someone, who keeps kidnapping multiple children as hobby

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I'm talking about the game in case it wasn't clear

lucid belfry
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you dont have to kidnap ppl for a living to be considered a kidnapper

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a kidnapper is just someone who has done the action of "kidnapping"

fleet sorrel
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what's wrong with calling ted a kidnapper

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he definitely is
especially in sn

novel flame
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wdym especially in SN

lucid belfry
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also, why do you sound like im calling YOUR dad a kidnapper

novel flame
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in SN he's just
an imagination

fleet sorrel
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in sn ted has kidnapped 2 people

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his own son and nicky

lucid belfry
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typo?

fleet sorrel
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not a typo

novel flame
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I mean he did that in
both HN1, SN, AS and whatever else

zealous vault
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people keep forgetting that SN is imagination

keen adder
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if simming is missing
is kidnapping napkidding

fleet sorrel
novel flame
zealous vault
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I'd honestly call him a man in pain and grief, if anything.

the AS pilot ending was a mistake and I hope it will be fixed. that would luck up everything that was well settled in the HN game.

novel flame
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possibly same for HN2 since it's meant to tie in

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I mean the new AS scripts pretty much confirm that he also kidnapped Trinity

zealous vault
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fever dream cliché

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I'd bet on it, but I won't.

lucid belfry
zealous vault
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tell me a reason why would he kidnap her

novel flame
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same reason as for Nicky
saw too much

lucid belfry
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The question is not about why

zealous vault
lucid belfry
zealous vault
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Nicky went to his basement on his own, Bonnie
he was literally put back to his porch in the beginning

lucid belfry
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she did see behind the guests beak

lucid belfry
novel flame
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well the guest is the guest

lucid belfry
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notice how everytime you get caught, time doesnt pass?

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theres a reason for that

zealous vault
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🤡 sure

lucid belfry
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books also confirm it

zealous vault
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oh god yes the books

then multiple Quentins are canon, haha 🙂

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gotcha

lucid belfry
zealous vault
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you turned my words inside out, not me.

novel flame
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I wouldn't say they're 100% canon

lucid belfry
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if your only response is sending a clown emoji, than what is there to say

fleet sorrel
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they are canon but not completely canon

zealous vault
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if you all think Neighbor is the worst creature in the world, then there's a bit of misunderstanding from your part in the game lore, so
the argument is useless.

lucid belfry
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and why are you defending him so much as if you know him personally

zealous vault
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literally what I replied to

fleet sorrel
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he's a man plagued with grief and guilt which then drives him to do terrible things in order to try and resolve his personal conflicts

novel flame
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I mean, if we had to talk purely about the original HN and HS then there would be no talk because he was entirely different in those than he is in the new media

fleet sorrel
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he's at his worst probably in hello engineer
then in graphic novel 2 he's at his best

lucid belfry
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screenshot me saying: "Mr peterson is the most horrible person ever" (and please do not screenshot this)

zealous vault
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I mean, isn't HE some spinoff too? it's too wild to be true

lucid belfry
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i just saying: Hes not as good as people keep saying

novel flame
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HE has some lore

fleet sorrel
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hello engineer didn't really happen
but some plot points can be taken out and still work in canon

lucid belfry
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AS has some lore

novel flame
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but not much

fleet sorrel
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for instance things from hello engineer are referenced in graphic novel 2
which means those things can be taken as canon

zealous vault
lucid belfry
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this dude is willing to flood a whole town

novel flame
fleet sorrel
lucid belfry
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whatever the reason behind this, he only wants the worse to happen to people and thats bad enough

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sure its sort of a revenge

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but its still a poison

zealous vault
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don't start with the comics oh god
that was so lucked up
either bad writing, or some stuff is going on, even I didn't recognize him
and Guest
I stand with funi creepy bird, not The Thing

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I don't want the Guest to take The Thing's place.

fleet sorrel
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graphic novel 1 isn't too important

lucid belfry
zealous vault
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neither is 2, it makes NO SENSE that he wants to flood the town
he isn't this crazy

novel flame
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I mean the guest isn't an imaginary weird creature like the thing
the guest exists but has some sort of powers

fleet sorrel
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graphic novel 2 shows that ted has completely given up on getting his family back and just wants to start over
the guest is "helping" him do that

zealous vault
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he c h o k e d him

fleet sorrel
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however the guest just wants to wreak havoc on people and manipulating ted is the way the guest found to do that

lucid belfry
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even tho not everything is 100% canon, they hold a lot of importance nonetheless

fleet sorrel
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before ted then turns against the guest and the guest has to forcefully take control of ted

zealous vault
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I also don't see the logic of the 7th book, where he is, like 80 years old and appears
um
for random girls?? who are they??

fleet sorrel
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in book 7 ted isn't in control of anything
it's all the guest

zealous vault
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he's literally minding his own business even in HN, it's the opposite of what he is doing

lucid belfry
fleet sorrel
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and we don't really know the guest's intentions besides taking what people don't deserve and generally causing chaos

lucid belfry
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take a deep breath

lucid belfry
fleet sorrel
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yes

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because right now the guest is a mysterious entity who pops up out of nowhere and thrives around water and does random things to tamper with the fates of others for seemingly no reason

lucid belfry
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and has a light in his beak, and the theory about the barn part not being a dream

zealous vault
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I mean, with this, Guest already has 3 different personalities and purposes
can they decide
he did collect stuff in the alphas (don't come at me that they aren't canon, I'm tired of canon talks) he is a collector, but not like in the comics

lucid belfry
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He collects things that can can be useful to him in anyway

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Nicky and Aaron taught us you can make quite impressive things out of calculators

fleet sorrel
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in the alphas he was just a placeholder / test for ai
whatever things he did was just to test it all out and see if it worked
none of it was representative of his actual personality

zealous vault
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imagine if he stayed a ragdoll

lucid belfry
fleet sorrel
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the books and graphic novels are likely what we will be seeing the guest like in hn2 as well

zealous vault
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I know random for a long time, it's different
random gives real reasons and sees stuffs with um
mature head

fleet sorrel
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yes

novel flame
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the guest in the alpha is pretty much the neighbor AI but the guest's mesh
like the neighbor in the showcase did mostly the same things as the guest

lucid belfry
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so much for "mature heads"

fleet sorrel
zealous vault
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I wouldn't have survived if they put the neighbor to Guest's place with all the ragdolling

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also I feel like HN2 a1 was like HN a2
but
hm.

lucid belfry
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?

fleet sorrel
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i assume that means "representative of what part of the game will be like with some story elements" or something like that

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but i really don't think the hn2 alphas had any proper story elements in it at all
besides "quentin searching for the neighbor and/or missing children"

zealous vault
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yes, kind of
tehy keep recycling parts and use them later.
gameplay mechanic and story both

novel flame
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I mean it's not like the story didn't get half of it rewritten after they switched writers

zealous vault
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I honestly don't know
that's what I'm trying to figure out

funny eye building will tell

fleet sorrel
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but you see what if it doesn't

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and what if they redesigned the building so that it didn't have the funny eye

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which they did do

zealous vault
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if they did that, then it will be like the door in the ending of beta 3
it changes a lot of important things

novel flame
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I mean

zealous vault
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ok maybe the door was even more important

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yeah

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I like it
probably mayak-5?

fleet sorrel
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not the weather station

novel flame
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isn't that the same thing

fleet sorrel
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no

novel flame
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so they have both an observatory and a weather station at the park?

zealous vault
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which book had the mayak and which book had the observatory?

zealous vault
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Ike and Neighbor were in the mayak, no?

lucid belfry
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yes

novel flame
fleet sorrel
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well this is also hello engineer

novel flame
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in HG it was also in the park

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or well

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right next to it

fleet sorrel
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it's near the park
not in the park

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the weather station at least

novel flame
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it was literally 2 meters from the park though

fleet sorrel
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the observatory is a bit farther away

zealous vault
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I know, I .... didn't word it well bruh sadge
which book scenes had the mayak and which was the observatory whatever...this is....?

fleet sorrel
storm escarp
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wait

zealous vault
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mayak teleports lore solved?

storm escarp
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where do I get this game

novel flame
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on stadia

fleet sorrel
zealous vault
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aaaaaaah

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I remember re-reading it 5 times and it still wasn't clear hmm sweet

novel flame
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I love it when the

zealous vault
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and which building did Mya and Aaron go to
where Mya got lost, then found

lucid belfry
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1080p when

lucid belfry
fleet sorrel
zealous vault
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why do we need two mysterious buildings again?

lucid belfry
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ah. Thought you meant the part where she fell in a hole and was found with a small bruise

zealous vault
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idk Mya kept disappearing in a building, I thought it was the mayak

lucid belfry
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she disappears all the time

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in book 5, she disappears only to be found under a nest

fleet sorrel
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i
don't remember this

zealous vault
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too bad she didn't disappear when HS ending happened, then reappeared on the ground

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alive

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I mean.

lucid belfry
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under a tree with a nest

zealous vault
# fleet sorrel i don't remember this

Mya and Aaron went to the forest, and storm happened, because storms only happen in the books whenever kids go to the forest, never before or after
Mya kept disappearing, then she somehow ended up in a nest?? where feathers were found, then the nest disappeared??

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no wait, under indeed
and Aaron climbed up to see the nest or idk

fleet sorrel
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aaron was the one who went to search for the nest and found it

zealous vault
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there were too many fillers, I'm forgetting the lore part

fleet sorrel
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then the others came over and he climbed the tree and grabbed the weather sensor thing

lucid belfry
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some dude falls off the rotten core

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and lives

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sucks to be Mya

zealous vault
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but there was a giant butt storm when they went on a shortcut during halloween
then another storm, when they explored the mayak
or observatory station or whatever
mysterious buildings

zealous vault
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impossible challenge for the books: specify things and looks

fleet sorrel
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when aaron first stumbled into the weather station and ike found him
that was when aaron and mya got split up during the storm in the forest

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aaron got lost and picked the lock to the weather station while being chased by ike

lucid belfry
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after halloween, they went nowhere im pretty sure

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Aaron went to mayak to find the tunnels and the book ends here

zealous vault
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but Ike guarded the park, there's no point in guarding the forest itself, it's huge
so basically, mayak was next to the park, as in HGP

lucid belfry
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ike wasnt even alive when the park existed

fleet sorrel
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ike guarded the perimeter of the park

lucid belfry
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only a big patch of dirt

zealous vault
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"park"
the burned down ruins

lucid belfry
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there werent ruins..?

zealous vault
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no wait
the future park then
imagine not going back in time in your later books bruh

fleet sorrel
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when ike was alive the park wasn't completely finished yet
he was the one who guarded the forest area around the park

lucid belfry
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it was just a big empty space

zealous vault
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ok so
park area
happy?

fleet sorrel
zealous vault
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it did start, the building of the park did start
he hid in one of the machines that dig up the ground

fleet sorrel
zealous vault
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I just didn't remember what the machines did, build or demolish lol

lucid belfry
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Peterson didnt even show the blueprints

fleet sorrel
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but they were still clearing out the area and planning the construction

zealous vault
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yes

lucid belfry
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they just took down a bunch of trees and made fences around it

fleet sorrel
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ike was there to make sure nobody trespassed and endangered themselves by going near construction equipment

lucid belfry
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yes

zealous vault
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wasn't there some
fence already

fleet sorrel
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no
it was all forest at the start of book 4

lucid belfry
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there were fences

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even an image of it

zealous vault
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but then the prologue
a few months later when he dies

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they separated the land and idk

lucid belfry
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The prologue is happening during halloween which is also the same date where we get to see the fences

zealous vault
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yeah uh idk
all I wanted to say with that is the mayak was probably next to the park

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idk the other

lucid belfry
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the observatory is pretty close too

fleet sorrel
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weather station was right next to the park and the observatory was pretty close too but
i faintly remember it being underground which wouldn't make sense

zealous vault
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do they say, what was the observatory used to?
while it worked

fleet sorrel
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no

zealous vault
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*for

fleet sorrel
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nobody knows about it at all
the only way in is the tunnels

zealous vault
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nah they just went through tunnels everywhere because yes

zealous vault
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they observed the weather in the mayak

lucid belfry
fleet sorrel
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they did at some points

zealous vault
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I mean the cultists

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and the kids

fleet sorrel
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and the tunnels are used just because it's easier to stay hidden in them

zealous vault
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they used the tunnels cuz funi

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I actually don't even remember, how the park burned down
I just remember it was different from what Aaron says in
eh
book 1-3

lucid belfry
zealous vault
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no? didn't something happen when they had a fight with Cleave???

lucid belfry
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during the fight with cleave

fleet sorrel
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people hated the park and the golden apple corporation so much that they burned the park down

lucid belfry
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people took torches and caused the arson

fleet sorrel
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during the fight with cleave and dale the park burned down

lucid belfry
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or whatever else you use to make a fire

fleet sorrel
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which caused them all to flee

zealous vault
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I legit remember something else from book 6

lucid belfry
fleet sorrel
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they were having a fight until aaron smelled smoke and everyone saw that there was a massive fire

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ted ran off to find diane and aaron went into the tunnels to get the devices before failing after suffocating

zealous vault
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ah true
and then uh someone ran away
and someone got caught idk

zealous vault
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either cleave ran away because of the fire, from the fight, or the other cultist idk

fleet sorrel
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tapps ran away because of the fire

lucid belfry
fleet sorrel
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then cleave ran after tapps said that the film containing the photos of them would get ruined by the smoke

lucid belfry
zealous vault
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yeah happy ending they get arrested

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not die or smth despite being pure evil

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and then Aaron in book 1 wonders, why Theodore lost his sanity entirely
I'd lose it too.

fleet sorrel
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well it was more because he knew that there was no hope for his family seeing as the luck devices were completely buried in book 6

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aaron knows that too

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he knows that their fates are sealed and nothing good can ever happen to them again

zealous vault
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yeah yeah
it's just
"there was one more thing-"

I wonder who and how did come up with the luck devices

fleet sorrel
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yeah we don't know that yet and i don't think we ever will get to know

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whatever or whoever it was probably has something to do with all the other strange occurrences in rb too

zealous vault
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uh I mean, whoever wrote it to the story
not inside the story
I'm not even attempting to figure that out lol

fleet sorrel
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oh well

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uh

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yeah i don't know about that one

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maybe they just needed some reason why so many bad things were happening to the petersons

zealous vault
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karma 🥲
nah
I was wondering, cuz luck does appear in HG too
but not in the form of devices. it's some weird karma-like phenomenon, which goes from person to person..hard to explain, but that made more sense

fleet sorrel
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it doesn't seem that luck is really factor in hg at all

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everything seems pretty normal until the guest comes in and ruins everything

zealous vault
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tau of cull appears on a billboard, so it was mentioned. I'd also add Beatrix not stepping into a giant butt rusty nail, while not looking where she goes (because she doesn't look)
Quentin is just unlucky as he is

but the very ending is just Smith being a dumb and going for revenge indeed.

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it did appear, but on normal human level, I guess

fleet sorrel
#

actually you have a point there

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there was probably a reason they included beatrix avoiding danger consistently while quentin consistently harms himself

zealous vault
#

we'll probably never know the original reason, sadly

fleet sorrel
#

they probably just wanted to introduce the concept ?

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it had no lore significance but they still wanted to include it
just to let people know it was a thing

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beatrix seems extremely lucky seeing as she has gotten into a firefight before and returned completely unscathed
quentin seems extremely unlucky as he harms himself a lot and has a lot of things happen that are very unfortunate

zealous vault
#

yeah HG did introduce a lot of interesting concepts
to be fair, it already had everything necessary

fleet sorrel
#

man in the hat is never really unlucky or lucky
he takes a few hits but then manages to fight the guest off

fleet sorrel
zealous vault
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Smith rather...does have a chance, but he lets it go/fly away
he loses the reel in SN while spying on Neighbor
he loses multiple fights, because he actually wants revenge (so he has feelings LOL)

fleet sorrel
#

i don't think he wants revenge

zealous vault
#

I still love how Quentin was, like
"ah....these two still fight, maybe I should run???"

fleet sorrel
#

but at the same time he probably didn't want to run away from a cop

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it'd look bad

zealous vault
#

he runs after Guest instead of stuffing Quentin into the car and leaving
I think he could have??

fleet sorrel
#

he doesn't run after the guest

#

well he might have chased the guest down with his car actually

zealous vault
#

I'm not saying the case of Bea, because he entirely gets defeated by a woman and can't see from tears, so

fleet sorrel
#

mith wanted to arrest the guest because he'd get much more information out of the guest than quentin

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once mith had seen the guest he had completely lost interest in quentin/beatrix

zealous vault
#

but then he knows Guest is a living human, not a creature from a rumor tinykappa

fleet sorrel
#

once the guest runs away mith tries to go after the guest before stopping and getting into his car presumably to continue chasing him down

fleet sorrel
#

but he probably assumes it's a human

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because who wouldn't

zealous vault
#

and we reached the good old question tinykappa
no I'm not saying it lol vole

lucid belfry
#

why is nft named vole

zealous vault
#

why not

lucid belfry
#

understandablehaveagreatday

zealous vault
fleet sorrel
#

that much has been confirmed beyond any doubt

zealous vault
#

imagine Smith arresting the Guest now and the bird is, like
"kra???"

fleet sorrel
#

yeah mith wouldn't get very far when questioning the guest but at the very least he could see what was under the mask

#

assuming the mask can be taken off

zealous vault
#

maybe Smith saw what's behind the beak and that's why he died
(sad reacts only)

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ok so

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do we have all HE cutscenes from the new update now, or not?

saw that.

fleet sorrel
#

unless there's a cutscene for entering the secret van then yes

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the only new cutscene was the act 3 intro cutscene

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the rest seemed to be slightly updated but nothing major at all

zealous vault
#

I only saw the scene where my pfp is from
I'm still stuck at lvl 12

fleet sorrel
#

i forgot which level that was and i forgot everything about every level and i don't know how or when i beat them

fleet sorrel
zealous vault
#

ah
I thought,
HN act 3
and I was, like weirdsad ?

fleet sorrel
#

yeah they refer to drive and dive (or whatever it was called) as act 1
then wild west as act 2
then space as act 3

zealous vault
#

hm that's nice to know

novel flame
#

and then the pirate levels as ac- oh wait-

zealous vault
#

and which base story is the one they use now,
a) the kids are stuck in the park and want to get out
or
b) they are making some car to some race event in the inventor club and they go to the park to get scrap for it(because obv they do)
? or both??

fleet sorrel
#

b

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they can leave any time they want but they're stupid so they don't

novel flame
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they're collecting parts for a car but oh look there's that mustache guy let's follow him!

zealous vault
#

yeah
thank you
both for the info and saying this Thumbsup

fleet sorrel
#

and then they get teleported into an endless limbo of weird attractions and killer drones and engineering (sandbox)

zealous vault
#

pf yeah
obviously :DD who doesn't?

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yeh too bad I can't try sandbox yet

novel flame
fleet sorrel
#

these look very out of place compared to hello engineer nowadays

novel flame
#

they can just

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redo it so that it looks like it's in the park

#

they did make like a ton of assets for it just to never use them

zealous vault
#

hmmm I want a steam release so badly
some stuff is just * chefs kiss * looks so good

novel flame
#

yeah I'm definitely not getting it on stadia

I want the assets

fleet sorrel
#

don't we all

zealous vault
#

true.

novel flame
#

I wish some of the textures were higher quality tho

#

most of them look good but there's some... quite blurry ones

#

ah yes uh
Hello Engineer

Ari is the engineer

zealous vault
#

um Bonnie
I'm currently touching your shirt Neighbor™️ blend and um
idk how to move the rigging
I see you made modifications, and it's a bit like an ik.. but
can you explain in dm? 🥲

novel flame
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it's just a regular IK rig

keen adder
novel flame
#

tbh this model is really good for well
pretty much an edit of the original by the looks of it

keen adder
#

edit of hn2 neighbor because of the additional detail
probably a mix of both

novel flame
#

I'm 99% sure this is an edit of the model from SN

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they used the SN model as a placeholder before

void basalt
#

It uses his SN model as the base, yes.

novel flame
#

and they did a great job with it

zealous vault
#

yeah. but very well edited. and new head. and I love the boots.

novel flame
#

it's the best looking variation of the HN1 model by far

zealous vault
#

and the concept idea is nice too
him ripping the vest

novel flame
#

it's my 2nd favorite neighbor model as a whole right after the HN2 one

void basalt
novel flame
#

if it was an edit of the HN2 neighbor instead of the HN1 neighbor it could've looked amazing

void basalt
novel flame
steel rune
#

Doesn't it shock anyone that he writes calculations everywhere?

novel flame
void basalt
#

Great facial expressions too

novel flame
#

what happened here

zealous vault
zealous vault
void basalt
#

Literally the only thing I don't like about Engineer Theodore is how his eyes were made, that's it. The rest is amazing.

novel flame
zealous vault
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they kept the head skin color and chest color difference (SN Neighbor has that)
but that can be fixed easily

void basalt
#

Yeah that too

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Would be nice if they changed it in a patch

zealous vault
#

but you don't notice it from these images
unless you climb to his chest tinykappa

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as in the game idk, I only saw him twice sadge

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there's this too...he's two handed, canon now?

void basalt
#

Ambidextrous

novel flame
#

tbh they look very similar

#

despite it not actually being the same model

void basalt
#

And that's not a bad thing, both are really good

novel flame
#

yeah

zealous vault
#

I mean, I was just told...he's losin it
sadge he doesn't care I guess

novel flame
#

wait what

#

there's a font called hello engineer

#

lol

last comet
#

Hello En , my favorite Hello Neighbor game

inland saddle
#

He's supposed to be the "bad guy". He's not evil, but he does some evil things to get what he wants.

#

Even if you look at HN1 alone, he keeps his own son hostage because he can't deal with the grief of losing his family. Then, when his son's friend comes looking for him, he holds him hostage too.

#

Nicky shouldn't of snuck in, sure, but Ted is clearly in the wrong for literally kidnapping.

mossy galleon
#

yep

inland saddle
#

They also really only did the bare minimum for a sad backstory for Ted. His wife and daughter died. Aw man!

#

The books are a bit more fleshed out though.

mossy galleon
#

Yep

novel flame
#

and he kills multiple people in them
!

zealous vault
#

well
you might have the name, but that's all

#

I'm sad this community has gotten this level
they watch but don't see

#

also I'll relate to whoever the hell(o) I want to, you won't tell me what to do.

inland saddle
#

Wait you actually relate to the child kidnapper? neighborhmm

#

There's a registry you can sign up for that somewhere.

mossy galleon
#

Neibghor

zealous vault
#

🤡

#

mfw someone's alt from delta tries to tell me how to live

urban thistle
zealous vault
#

that's the problem with communities, exactly
people misunderstand things on purpose and try to paint others in bad color.
every single community.

urban thistle
zealous vault
#

probably.

#

he could run away, actually.

urban thistle
#

but I believe he stays for two reasons

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  1. He is worried about the cops
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  1. He hates himself because of Mya
zealous vault
#

I honestly did have a little hope, but there's no point to talk with most people, sadly.

yes, he could easily free himself, like he did in the end of act 2.

urban thistle
#

Parents who lost their kids in fires, shootings, etc.

urban thistle
lucid belfry
#

Literally the script says so

urban thistle
mossy galleon
#

AS ep. 2 script

lucid belfry
#

bro

urban thistle
#

(I'm talking about Piper's mom)

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(Not the cashier)

urban thistle
lucid belfry
#

"shes gone"

mossy galleon
#

Guust is Neibghor

urban thistle
#

which can be debated on NOT being the neighbor

mossy galleon
#

"What are you going to do now little rabbit, she's gone" is from the Guest, but the image after it is Neibghor. Also GN2

novel flame
#

Wdym also GN2

mossy galleon
#

The confusing GN2 ending with the Guest Choking the Neighbo, then the Guest becoming the Neighborr

novel flame
#

The guest is definitely in control of him

lucid belfry
mossy galleon
#

True

#

Also I like how we're talking anything but HE rn

lucid belfry
#

welcome to lore discussion2

novel flame
#

How about we get back to talking about Hello Engineer oke?

random goblet
#

where mild blood

novel flame
random goblet
#

i havent seen the health bar since early access

#

i hate these mf rides

placid rock
random goblet
#

there also hasnt been a neighbor that catches you since early access (that i know of)

novel flame
#

Well that's when the rating was made

random goblet
#

can't wait to export the music from this game when its on steam (it uses wwise)

novel flame
#

You don't usually have a game re-rated if it's the same platform

lucid belfry
novel flame
#

What

lucid belfry
#

bl0d

random goblet
#

this is helo engineer

lucid belfry
#

that was the joke

random goblet
lucid belfry
#

mind if i just

random goblet
#

it didnt even kill me

void basalt
random goblet
#

but game tells you to run for your life

random goblet
void basalt
#

Well RIP Trinity

#

Surprised you didn't dive into the explosion head first as Maritza since you "hate her" so much.

novel flame
#

The new discord mobile update is so annoying

The video doesn't want to play, it's just sound with a black screen

random goblet
novel flame
#

Maritza will exlode in 6

random goblet
#

she has a switch lite 💀

void basalt
novel flame
#

Yo wth it actually looks like one

#

Why she got a switch lite

urban thistle
novel flame
#

It's literally still the 90s

random goblet
novel flame
#

Also HN media creators seem to be obsessed with nintendo products

urban thistle
void basalt
#

Indestructible

random goblet
#

😾

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bt why did maritzas mom die before she was born

novel flame
#

What 💀

void basalt
#

Wait so how was Maritza born if her mother was dead?

#

Did she pass away during birth?

random goblet
#

she died somehow

#

rip ??? esposito

void basalt
#

I read that as RIP bozo 💀

#

So used to seeing people say that as of lately.

novel flame
#

Aidan you're such a hardcore hello engineer

You're literally a wrench

random goblet
#

i am sorry you gave birth to a martza

#

hello sd

void basalt
random goblet
#

internet death 💀

novel flame
random goblet
#

my wifi died anyways carry on

novel flame
#

Yes anyways

random goblet
#

she is thinking about murder

mossy galleon
void basalt
lucid belfry
mossy galleon
#

Lore moment

random goblet
#

rip trinity esposito i mean bales

#

i mean esposito

mossy galleon
#

You solved the Hello Neighbor Lore

random goblet
#

i got an iphone x because im rich kid and maritza has a crappy switch light

lucid belfry
#

technology

#

we are getting closer to book 7

novel flame
#

I love having touch screen phones in the 90s

swift locust
#

Sure that's a phone? It has a giant red button on it. Kinda looks like her walkie talkie

random goblet
#

crow phone x

swift locust
#

Chad crow

random goblet
swift locust
#

Yeah the audio is kinda broken in this update

novel flame
#

I love Wwise

random goblet
#

i blame it on funny wise audio because its the reason the music encrypted

#

i cant even rip sound effects from hn2 because chrome thinks the wwise extractor is a virus

lucid belfry
#

lol

random goblet
#

and who knows how were gonna rip audio from this when it comes out cuz its unity

novel flame
#

With an extractor

random goblet
#

but like unity

novel flame
#

You don't think I'll be able to export it from a unity game as well? imbirmeme

random goblet
#

eh

novel flame
#

I mean it's possible

#

Probably quite easily as well

random goblet
#

can't wait to export a character with asset studio and have to rig it

novel flame
#

Wdym have to rig it

#

It can export a rig as well

random goblet
#

last time i did that it

novel flame
#

Wha-

random goblet
#

lucy slaying

#

but yeah i still need to learn rigging

inland saddle
grizzled gazelle
#

it doesnt even make sense

grizzled gazelle
grizzled gazelle
#

He takes things which ppl dont deserve

grizzled gazelle
#

I so wonder if its gonna be in HN2

grizzled gazelle
swift locust
#

Cooler looking than mayak by miles 😍

grizzled gazelle
last comet
swift locust
#

Omg

grizzled gazelle
#

three mysterious buildings

#

Idk if you can add the museum too

#

cuz, crows fly around the museum

grizzled gazelle
swift locust
#

Fun fact: In the updated wild west battle, the lighting in now purple and crows circle the battle area and the observatory

swift locust
#

That building better look cool it's be so long since we've seen it in a game

swift locust
#

Oh my god

swift locust
#

One is just bigger

#

Wth

left herald
void basalt
#

I somehow forgot about that very sad and dark info, thank you for explaining

fleet sorrel
#

when was that said

buoyant gorge
#

it was in either book 2 or something? I definitely remember reading that too

lucid belfry
#

iirc

#

the chapter where Aaron went over to Enzos after the whole discovery about Mr Petersons parents working at a station

lucid belfry
#

?

uncut bear
#

when is it gonna be on console/steam

ivory urchin
#

whats hello engineer? never heard of it

swift locust
#

HE is a veichle construction game with lots of cut content!

#

It has nice graphics and is on Stadia only atm

ivory urchin
#

oh that sounds interesting

#

hopefully it's coming to console soon

bitter cipher
#

@ivory urchin yes hopefully

brisk pike
#

new discovery

#

it has more photos of model than artstation does

swift locust
#

These were all cut from the game 😔

brisk pike
#

I was looking for HN related stuff I guess HN2 sound design and TRBD are not the only ones

last comet
swift locust
#

HE devs on their way to scrap the coolest most helpful wheels (gum wheels and plunger wheels)

#

The plunger wheels were in a trailer, gum wheels were from closed beta apparently.

#

You could climb up slopes easier

last comet
#

I do hope they left it in the files if they don't use it

swift locust
#

I feel so bad for the modelers

#

All this just gone

novel flame
#

they can still use it

#

no one said they wouldn't

swift locust
#

I doubt they would at this point

novel flame
#

why not

#

if they made one content update (which introduced things that we've seen before but went unused in the first release) why not another

swift locust
#

Well I want the mansion back which was a cut gameplay/story area, it would be weird if they just brought that back would it not?

novel flame
#

not really

swift locust
#

Full game is out and then oh here's the rest of the game

novel flame
#

it doesn't have to be specifically story related either

#

just additional content

#

just like you have a dozen of SN maps

swift locust
#

That's community creations which is entirely different, these were cut areas from the main campaign. I'd be happy if they were to add to back to the game, but why remove it in the first place? Why did everything just get downgraded in the fiest section? Where's that waterslide mini game that was shown? Where did the waterpark levels go? Why did they scrap so many useful wheels and building parts? If they end up adding a lot of scrapped stuff back I'll be really happy, just weird that is was scrapped in the first place.

novel flame
#

Doesn't have to be scrapped, just they planned to use it but didn't have enough time for the release, especially that some of the team is also helping with HN2 as far as I know. And I meant official SN maps, not people making SN maps.

swift locust
#

Really glad they fixed the Wild West issues with the super empty levels with 0 decorations

#

Hope they do that to Drive and Dive next cause my god does every level look exactly the same

#

Here's a level before the decor update

#

There was literally nothing inside the room

#

When it (hopefully) releases on Steam, I hope the mansion is added back for the main game, cause it was clearly meant to be part of the story if you look at certain cutscenes

swift locust
#

Here's how Tire Buddy looked when he was in the lobby (Why'd you remove him devs 😭 )

#

BRUH, there are even toy blocks that represent each including spooky

#

The wild west one is a star btw

#

also there's a side that has a..cat..

novel flame
#

What

swift locust
#

The toy blocks represent each part of the park and then one side of the blocks is just a orange cat

#

The icons are a sheriff star, a ghost, a bat, a trophy, a rocket and the cat

#

I don't even remember seeing half of those wooden signs

#

I saw the castle, the clown, and maybe the car but not the others

#

these models are so cool

#

Also, Varen Roobs

#

new variant

#

here's the link

#

yeah those other signs aren't being used, sad

#

they might appear in a later update though

#

which I hope happens cause we don't need more cool models to be unused

mossy galleon
#

New Croobian detected

#

Dictonary updated

light maple
#

Raven sroobs

restive vessel
#

I am sad I can't play hello engineer. I am I Australia

ruby lava
#

you're very lucky

#

because you're not at risk for brain damage

#

i already have brain damage from all the thinking

zealous vault
#

does anyone from here have these two concept arts in a bit better quality and without stadia text at least?
I'm a silly girl and I entirely lost them (if I ever saved)

restive vessel
#

No sorry

#

But I have never seen the second one before.

zealous vault
#

I think it was a thumbnail on a stream, but
I never saw it again

novel flame
#

I definitely saw one of them in higher quality but can't recall where

void basalt
#

I saw the bottom one in one of the HE videos made by Adam

#

I believe it was being used as a loading screen at the time

novel flame
#

I think so yeah

last comet
#

Just delete the tB logo and yeah

#

ig

swift locust
#

Would YOU ride the pirate wheel? (Be wise)

novel flame
#

No

last comet
swift locust
#

This ride was scrapped therefore you are scrapped as well CerealWhenHavesMilk

#

Ted actually invented this ride specifically to disappear

#

Into the void you go

#

Fr though that's a cool design

#

All that remains from the pirate era is some fences and this place in sandbox

#

There is a chest and a boat with a sword in it

outer osprey
zealous vault
last comet
#

np

delicate quiver
#

hey guys i just got this game, anyone wanna play?

#

pretty cool that they have an entire discord for it

lucid belfry
last comet
#

bagger moment

mossy galleon
#

Damn they actually thought to put Bagger in there

void basalt
#

And Scout

#

Next to the GAAP gate

mossy galleon
#

Damn why are the only ones not there Trinity and Inventor?

viral stump
#

wait how

hushed vector
#

Welcome to hello engineer

swift locust
#

Google stadia is shutting down for good in Januray

#

Bye bye HE!

#

Since this is happening they kinda have to put it on Steam now lol

jaunty sage
swift locust
#

Yes

swift locust
jaunty sage
#

meaning that it may get announced somewhere at beginning of the month and get released somewhere at the end of it

#

this means that people who bought he will still get their money back and they'll be able to buy it on steam instead

swift locust
#

Yay I get my 20 bucks back so I can get HE again on Steam hopefully

jaunty sage
#

only problem is you'll lose all your progress

swift locust
#

No

#

Nonono

#

NO

#

I will NOT do Wild West level 1 again

#

Actually I will, they thankfully made the tunnel section easier

#

They removed the stupid rocks

jaunty sage
#

also what are those images you posted in #games

swift locust
#

Planet coaster, amusement park building and managment game. Remaking HE's park in it (all areas)

#

It looks really good rn those are old pics

jaunty sage
#

@uncut bear tb had a contract with stadia where they cant release HE until a year after its release

#

it released on october meaning the contract ends soon

#

and now that stadia's shutting down its 100% gonna release

uncut bear
#

oh ok

#

So what you mean is that Hello Engineer will be coming to steam?

jaunty sage
#

yes tb always wanted to release he on steam
they'll get more money so its just worth for them

#

so it'll release on steam we just dont know when

native sedge
#

100% would be when the company announces, please keep this in mind

uncut bear
#

ok

uncut bear
bronze kindle
#

Since Stadia is Shutting Down...

#

What does this mean for HE?

jaunty sage
#

scroll up

uncut bear
#

It means they kinda have to release it on other platforms.

bronze kindle
#

HE can finally be more mainstream

#

AKA I finally can play it at some point.

uncut bear
#

to put a long story short

#

we dont know

#

it does mean the gaming industry will get better though

#

stadia was a question of when not if

light maple
#

no shot

random goblet
#

bye stadia you will not be missed

#

and nobody likes you

hasty wolf
#

So I’m yeah about that, what’s gonna happen to HE

#

I mean I never liked stadia, but like isn’t HE exclusive to the platform

random goblet
#

they'll have to release it on steam

#

ig

hasty wolf
#

That would be the only really thing they could do

#

I’d like it on console, but idk if that’ll ever happen

light maple
#

it’s next year, but yeah they have a deadline now lmao

#

they have “time” to “finish it”

grand meadow
stray breach
#

You know it's gonna be a great day when you wake up to a notification like this

sturdy void
#

I wonder if this game would move to PC and console after this!

jaunty sage
#

yes it always would no matter if stadia would shut down or not

#

tb had a contract with stadia for 1 year
they cant release the game on consoles and steam until somewhere in october

ruby lava
#

nooooo stadiaaaaaaa

mossy galleon
#

Hey at least they knew when to stop

#

Stadia shutting down was more of a when then a if

uncut bear
#

Players when they almost finish Hello Engineer but they've heard the news about stadia shutting down:

#

Their progress:

uncut bear
#

stadia was inevitably going to die

#

Google ran into a market they had no experience in and got their butt kicked

random goblet
#

can't wait to have to redo wild west level 1 on steam

last comet
#

i love doing this level, it's soooo fun ! 😊

swift locust
#

They did make it a bit easier (the rocks in the tunnel are gone)

#

but my god the giant hill at the beginning is a horrible choice

#

like who the heck thought this was a good idea

#

huh, that was easy

#

oh they must of done an update, cause this area used to be blocked off and you could get stuck on the invisible wall

#

wow they made a lot of random changes in this area, not complaining though, flying horseshoes area gone now yay

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like some of these buildings have insides not

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this also just goes to the hill idk why they put this here

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Button?

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nothing

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why tf is the first hill so hard to get up but the ones in the tunnel are super easy like what?

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hey whoever suggested that mud effect, look!

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it only appears if you go in the mud and then pop out

uncut bear
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where is this gonna go when stadia shuts down

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steam?

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i really hope

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i wanted to play since launch

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but i dont wanna pay for stadia

uncut bear
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probably steam

jaunty sage
restive vessel
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does stadia shutting down mean that hello engineer will be avalible on epic games store or steam?

jaunty sage
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literally read the message above you

swift locust
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Cool shot I took

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The artists put in so much effort it's amazing

mossy galleon
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yeah

mossy galleon
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I love it when this chat lights up but there's no new messages

whole bobcat
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Ye

sharp lava
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What’s going to happen to Hello Engineern ow that stadia is ending

mossy galleon
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Steam release

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Maybe even console release

swift locust
mossy galleon
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Can someone send me what all the cut themes were

swift locust
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Yes!

mossy galleon
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I know about Pirate and Mansion, but are there any more?

swift locust
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The famous mansion for starters

mossy galleon
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Yeah

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I remember when it was in the Background back in the Early Access days

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I also know about Pirate (They really cut out everything involving it except for 1, maybe 2 things)

swift locust
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I feel bad for the modelers

mossy galleon
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Me too

swift locust
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I also made a big list of scrapped things bravesmile

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List of unused stuff:

Teacup ride, Swan ride sign, all waterpark levels, wooden whale, various water slides and waterslide towers, lawn chair for pool, giant go kartz helmet, Giant tire buddy statue, mens and womens changing rooms for pool, ticket booths for pool, golden ducky from pool, water slide minigame, various pirate themed models like the volcano coaster ride and pirate ferris wheel, many wheels and gizmos for building, spooky mansion and all haunted house props such as ghost cut outs dead tree etc. There are many more.

mossy galleon
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dang

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they really didn't do this game justice

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did they?

swift locust
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I'm really annoyed with how they handled section one (Drive and Dive) all the waterpark stuff is gone so now it's just race track

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And the race track levels aren't even that exciting to look at cause they all look the same

mossy galleon
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Ye

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At least put the Waterpark in the Background

swift locust
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Only two levels in section one have wateraslides in the background

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You can't go to them sadly

mossy galleon
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sadly

swift locust
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The graphics have improved a lot, they looked very bare back then

mossy galleon
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yeah

swift locust
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It'a just: Hill, grass, thing in background, no variation

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Now look at a early access level level

swift locust
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Oh wait I'm dumb

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It was already there

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Sorry for the ping 😭

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I guess I just never noticed

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Um forget that happened, look at Tire Buddy instead

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What is he even holding

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Is that a plate

uncut bear
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Stadia shut down apparently so what happens from here?

lucid belfry
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we have no idea

swift locust
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If I could, I'd love to be a level designer for HE one day, if they even need one anymore lol, which I doubt.

restive vessel
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Will HE be available on Nintendo switch lite?

novel flame
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There is no information about any ports of HE at the moment.

normal brook
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Will they port the game to Steam/EGS or is the game dead once Stadia goes down?

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Just read the messages above, sorry to bother

swift locust
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They kinda have to port it now, Steam most likely

hollow pine
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i didnt even know this game existed

mossy galleon
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That's Stadia for you

uncut bear
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Stadia is dead

pseudo garnet
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if you are a good hn Modder please help me in Dm's it will be quick i swear i just need help please

last comet
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what the bloody just happened ?

swift locust
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Stadia is shutting down for GOOD

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In January

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So HE Steam here we come

last comet
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Indeed

grizzled gazelle
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X)

mossy galleon
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Consoles: Am I a joke to you?

mental crane
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lmfao rip stadia

swift locust
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I love when they have newer models and don't add them to the game

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but the render doesn't have inventor's club on the sign, and it's made of wood instead

swift locust
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I love the lobby music way too much I just wanna listen to it on loop forever

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Found a way to have it loop on my phone, peace forever :D

grizzled gazelle
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this is the lobby?

swift locust
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Yes

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I guess you could call it the main hub if you wanted, but lobby sounds nicer

grizzled gazelle
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what can we do here actually?

swift locust
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It goes to all 4 areas of the park

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Plus exit

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And ferris wheel/coaster

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And the sandbox

grizzled gazelle
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what are the 4 areas of the park?

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wild west, space, then what?

swift locust
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Wild West, Space, Drive and Dive, and Spooky Mansion (mansion is the unused area)

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I hope it's added back, cause removing it = plot holes