secret-neighbor

[copper escarp]

Like having Enzo be scared

kia haal hain

??

[barren shore]

I made a suggestion on animation changes for the kids but it doesn’t exist now

[copper escarp]

Maritza yawning and not giving a single care in the world

Leader having her arm’s crossed and just looking around with a courageous face

[barren shore]

Yesss

You should make a feedback post then

[copper escarp]

Maybe

[barren shore]

[copper escarp]

Tho after the Kung Fu Bagger post it can’t happen

[barren shore]

Why not

[copper escarp]

They don’t trust me anymore

[barren shore]

Nahh you have the best ideas dont worry

[hard dirge]

yeah

[hard dirge]

this is an english server

[barren shore]

The neighbor lofi slaps

[copper escarp]

If Holo makes this the new Bagger voice it would be really funny

[barren shore]

Im listening to it

[barren shore]

[halcyon swallow]

can any1 send the shop

[barren shore]

No

[topaz tinsel]

.

heres shop

somone else send ealier

[halcyon swallow]

thx

[halcyon swallow]

thx

[barren shore]

[copper escarp]

Wow

I’m tryna figure out on why there breaching there neighbor’s house

Now I see why the kids got locked in the basement

[barren shore]

DUDE THE NEIGHBOR LOFI SLAPS HOLY SH-

[hard dirge]

I mean it's alr

https://tenor.com/view/edp-i-mean-its-all-right-gif-26702511

[barren shore]

I head cannon the neighbor pulls the kids hair

[barren shore]

Never let this man speak again

[copper escarp]

Except for Finch cause she would bite his face off

[barren shore]

She would then choke him with her scarf

[copper escarp]

I find it funny on how Brave is the youngest of the squad and yet she’s the third tallest

[barren shore]

Why does he look like edp

Brave in the AS is a twitter user

oh right my bad i meant X

[copper escarp]

*IPad Kid

[copper escarp]

Meanwhile Inventor and Bagger are midgets

[barren shore]

Twitter user*

[barren shore]

Bros a dwarf

[copper escarp]

Fr

He’s probably 9 smh

[barren shore]

12*

Its crazy how in some of the feedbacks people fat shame Delroy ☠️

[copper escarp]

Nah he can’t be above 11

It’s impossible

[barren shore]

HIS VOICE IN AS

[copper escarp]

Cause he causes earthquakes while walking down the stairs

[barren shore]

i headcannon that delroy is 12 and finch is 13

[copper escarp]

The people who fat shame Delroy are secretly the Rescue Squad

[barren shore]

The people who fat shame a 12 year old are

[copper escarp]

Nope he’s 9

[topaz tinsel]

nah he's gotta be 12

[barren shore]

FINALLY SOMEONE WHO AGREES

[topaz tinsel]

maybe his voiceline in SN make him sound like 9 year old

but like normally he's for sure 12

[copper escarp]

In the AS yeah

SN nope

He’s 9

[smoky sequoia]

That's why they should change his voiceline

[copper escarp]

He gotta be the youngest

[barren shore]

My headcannon ages

Leader and detective are 14

Scout is 13

Brave is 11

Inventor and bagger are 12

[topaz tinsel]

yea they need to change it

[barren shore]

His voice is cute but not fitting

[topaz tinsel]

i mean on wiki it says he's 11

[barren shore]

Wiki isnt always correct imo

[topaz tinsel]

alright

[copper escarp]

Brave doesn’t feel like the youngest one so idk why they made her the youngest

[barren shore]

I like how your bio is just 👍🏼

[copper escarp]

Youngest is prob Ivan

[barren shore]

She gives me “im tough but secretly soft” vibes

[topaz tinsel]

👍🏼

[barren shore]

👍🏼

[topaz tinsel]

i can beliveve that she's the youngest one

she kinda looks like she is the youngest

[barren shore]

Anyone agree with my headcannons?

[copper escarp]

I do

change Bagger to 9 tho

[barren shore]

YES

[barren shore]

[copper escarp]

Bagger has to be 9-10 or sum

[barren shore]

Their in middle school how would they befriend a elementary schooler

[copper escarp]

They’d probably see him body somebody or sum idk

[barren shore]

Nah

SN just destroyed his voice

AS doesn’t fit him for goodness sake he sounds 16

👍🏼

[copper escarp]

They can never get his voice right

[barren shore]

Fr

[copper escarp]

Nah Bagger would deff body you if you called him fat or sum shit

[barren shore]

Hes gonna body you

[copper escarp]

Nope I’d beat him up in a fight

I’m Maritza irl

[barren shore]

[barren shore]

Im the mayor irl

Who would win in a fight?

Maritza or delroy?

[copper escarp]

Prob Maritza

She has a bat after all

[topaz tinsel]

is this even a question martiza has a baseball bat

[copper escarp]

Unless Delroy just shoves her into some concrete

[barren shore]

This dude bagger2009 acts like bagger is the hulk

[copper escarp]

Cause he is

[barren shore]

👍🏼

[copper escarp]

He folded Nicky so he’d fold Goku

[barren shore]

They are not in the same AU 🤓🫸

[copper escarp]

Actually nvm Delroy violates

[topaz tinsel]

nah

bagger about to get hit with a baseball

[barren shore]

Why the heck is there a bad finger emoji?

If you yk yk

[copper escarp]

Maritza would prob run at Bagger and get caught in a bear trap

And fall into mouse traps

[barren shore]

💯

[copper escarp]

And then the Neighbor folds them both

[desert drum]

Or you know step on a bear trap under a pizza box

[hard dirge]

guys ik why taxidermist is at the neighbor's house

he is there to get tax

from the neighbor

but he finds the kids

and asks them for the tax

[hard dirge]

and the kids don't give him the tax so he shoots them

that's why his name is taxidermist

[desert drum]

I don’t think that’s the reason but ok

[hard dirge]

it's a joke bruh

[barren shore]

AS artstyle is mid imo

[copper escarp]

It’s really meh to me

[desert drum]

How many people would theoretically play an AS Game? Though

[barren shore]

I really dont like the AS artstyle

[copper escarp]

Uh probably 15

If there was a Nicky Vs Bagger section in the game that’d be the only reason I’d play

That scene was cool

[desert drum]

It’s hello neighbor you know people will play it because it’s part of the franchise

And somehow related to the plot and lore maybe

[barren shore]

True

[copper escarp]

Spider Neighbor

He web swings

[wispy cedar]

Hello Hello Everyone, How are you guys doing

[copper escarp]

And traps you with webs

[barren shore]

Im fine!

[wispy cedar]

Are you guys excited for the christmas update?

[barren shore]

Yeah

not like its coming to iOS

[hard dirge]

ofc

[copper escarp]

It takes a whole year just to add an update to IOS

Like bro

[barren shore]

What did you say

[copper escarp]

The f word

[barren shore]

Lmaoooo

Bro is badass

[copper escarp]

And traps you in barrels

[wispy cedar]

That use of word is not allowed here

[barren shore]

Fr, the ghost neighbor and guest neighbor and map 5 updates took 2 years

[barren shore]

Helper moment

[wispy cedar]

Ey, im just doing my job

[barren shore]

[copper escarp]

Who’s the weakest of the rescue squad

[barren shore]

📸 🔑

[copper escarp]

Knew it

[wispy cedar]

Dont agree, he is pretty OP if you know the maps pretty well

[copper escarp]

The fact that even Inventor bodies 😭

Enzo would run away in a fight or just get bodied in a second

[barren shore]

I di

[barren shore]

Frr

Whos the strongest?

⚾️ 🧢

Get it?

Cuz the emojis

[copper escarp]

Finch would body im afraid

[barren shore]

BRO

I WORKED HARD ON SOMETHING

AND THIS SHIT 😭

The damn bot didnt allow me to send it

Gotta do it again i guess AAAAA

[copper escarp]

Uh idk head canon ages for the squad

Leader-14
Detective-13
Brave and Scout-12
Inventor-11
Bagger-9

[barren shore]

Disagree

[barren shore]

Imma send it again but the emojis arent in the same message

SN kids as emojis:

📸🔑

🥜👧🏻

🏃🏿‍♀️🐈‍⬛

🧢⚾️

🛠️⚙️

🎒🥛

[copper escarp]

Actually scratch that Inventor is also 12

[barren shore]

Are the emojis beautiful?

They fit right?

[copper escarp]

Indeed

[copper escarp]

Inventor feels like the type of guy who would throw a dirty diaper at you for saying nerds suck

[barren shore]

That’s fitting

I want a voice line in SN where brave would say “nerds suck!” And then theres a voice line for inventor would say “YOUR WRONG” then actually throws a dirty diaper item

[barren shore]

Which one is your favorite

[copper escarp]

Bagger cause bias

[copper escarp]

And then Brave throws it back

[barren shore]

Yes

I completely thought of something different

Yes she would throw the diaper and a fight would happen 💯

[copper escarp]

And Inventor gets bodied

[barren shore]

The diaper would smell like farts

[copper escarp]

So they smell like Bagger

[barren shore]

[copper escarp]

Imagine getting bullied by the Rescue Squad

Couldn’t be me

(Would prob be me)

[barren shore]

Rescue squad are tough in the trailers

[copper escarp]

That’s why the scared face sucks!!!

[barren shore]

TRUE 💯

[copper escarp]

All there heads do is bounce

And it does not fit on people like Brave

[barren shore]

Rice krispy is typing

[worn lintel]

I wanna say yes but i can’t

[copper escarp]

Her name is legit Brave

[worn lintel]

So many updates have disappointed me

[frail kindle]

and by "so many", how many have actually done so?

for me, it's about like 3-4

[jovial heron]

i need motivation for that bagger skin

[frail kindle]

at this point, im fr only coming back to check out these updates and see what they added, the gameplay just isn't that fun anymore

[jovial heron]

i missed the brave sweater

[olive escarp]

The only ones that disappointed me is this one and the inventor rework update

[frail kindle]

that one update we got before the game went on hiatus was SUPER disappointing and extremely lazy

[olive escarp]

You mean the one without snow or call of the kra?

[frail kindle]

the one without snow

all they had to do was remove the decor and stuff

[olive escarp]

I love that update

[frail kindle]

that's literally it

[jovial heron]

my detective fit

[olive escarp]

Hear me out first

[copper escarp]

Beta was better than the version

[olive escarp]

The update was completly new for console players

[frail kindle]

No

[olive escarp]

After waiting like 2 years

[frail kindle]

Not that one

[olive escarp]

So i love it

No, i know what you mean

This update came after the spring update on console

After like, 2 years of waiting

[frail kindle]

parity update was okay for the most part, still a little lazy because it's not hard to remove the decorations

[olive escarp]

It was basically the paranormal update for console

[frail kindle]

at most, it would've took them a few more hours

[olive escarp]

I didnt really care about the decor, atleast i had fun

[rare lynx]

I just hope we get decent hn2 decorations

[desert drum]

Whoops, I left secret neighbor open all night well there goes my battery

Time to charge

[radiant patrol]

for me it was from the halloween 2022 update ngl

[agile compass]

My disappointment updates are summer 2021, Christmas 2021 (yuck), Christmas 2022, Halloween 2023

Those are major disappointments

My minor disappointments are Halloween 2022 and summer 2023

Something just feels strange to me about summer 2023 Idk

[olive escarp]

Summer camp was the best sn update

Im not trolling

It was just really fun

[agile compass]

I don't care about that update it just felt strange to me

[rare lynx]

I wouldn't say best but surprisingly it was one of my favorites

The LE got the best LE update we've had

Also the progression system was kinda cool

Only complaint was the dang neighbor stun and butcher nerf

Also the traps

I liked the boarded up cabinets and passages but not the traps they were too common

[olive escarp]

Getting them all to 50 was hell

But it was the most fun ive had with this game since easter 2020

[rare lynx]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/474299944791048214/1153061491491209297/VID-20230917-WA0015.mp4?ex=65889132&is=65761c32&hm=4371695c5f32de03fa9bd684290d83f172d9962f930d0b29b265b1dff55daae3&

[olive escarp]

I know everyone had their differences with traps in that update but it was fun

[rare lynx]

Oh I want trying to make that point

I was actually posting this clip to say the traps made the game funnier

[olive escarp]

The server was full of perfectly cut clips

Love them

I have many of them

[rare lynx]

Because they would make ever moment so anticlimactic

You finally escaped the neighbo- instant down

You did a pro skip and got to level 3- instant down

You got the last key- instant down

The double beartraps were wild

[olive escarp]

Butcher literally got tortured in summer camp

He got beaten up so many times

And aim assist💀💀

[rare lynx]

Aim assist being so broken for no reason

[olive escarp]

Scout💀

[rare lynx]

This update was definitely one of the most unbalanced the game has been but it was still very fun

[olive escarp]

Scary was like the only class able to win

And clown maybe

Then otto came and made an 180

Literally slaughtering baggers

[desert drum]

Man they really tried to patch as many shortcuts as they could and yet bottle skip is still in the game

[rare lynx]

Vents, leader buff, scout aim assist, and neighbor stun - all were so unfair for the neighbor

Traps - were so broken for the kids side

The perks - underwhelming
However...

Boarded up passages eith the crowbar and stuff were really cool, grinding to find out what the badges were was cool, and the xp/coin system was so much better

And the game was still fun for me

Even when it was really broken sometimes

[olive escarp]

The vents were so funny to me

[rare lynx]

And also because of so many funny rounds I had and other things I did messing around with friends

[olive escarp]

How you could open and close them so the player on the other side cant reach you

And of course

[rare lynx]

They were so dang annoying for the neighbor, like the map 1 vents specifically. Having the vent from the library to the main room and the vent that bypasses the neighbor gate was so bad

[olive escarp]

Among us reference

[olive escarp]

Or that vent in map 3 lvl. 2 area that leads to nowhere

[rare lynx]

I liked that one tbh

[olive escarp]

Peak gamedesign indeed

[rare lynx]

It was a cool hiding spot

[olive escarp]

Never used it because of the vent sound

[rare lynx]

I'm going to be crazy and say that was actually my favorite vent placement they added

[olive escarp]

Players would easily fibd you tgere

[rare lynx]

Because the kid is just cornered

They either have to fall off or have to hide

[olive escarp]

I liked the vent that leads from the makeup room to the cinema tbh

[rare lynx]

I both linked and disliked it

Liked*

[olive escarp]

The holes in the maps were cool too

[rare lynx]

I liked those a lot

Since they could be randomly opened, or boarded up, or bricked off

[olive escarp]

There were so many new skips though

With the barricades and holes

I can think of 2 skips with the holes

[rare lynx]

Except the map 5 one... that was broken

[olive escarp]

The one in map 1 garage and in map 2 lvl. 1 area

[olive escarp]

Map 5 had a skip for every area

Literally every

single

one

[desert drum]

Bottle skip

Stack 3 boxes to reach area 4 early

Well four now because hit box changes

[olive escarp]

Lvl. 1 area = hot sauce skip
Lvl. 2 = 3rd person mode glitch
Lvl. 3 = climb up the tent or 3rd person mode glitch

[agile compass]

map 5 makes me want to rip my eyes out boil them and eat them

I think my boiled eyes meal is more appealing visually

[rare lynx]

The game was very broken in the fact that it was unbalanced but it was fun and certainly not as buggy as now

It did actually look really good when it first came out. However imo it looks the worst now

I think the buggy traps made it kinda fun sometimes

At least for me

Yum

Ah yes. Old tutorial

[radiant patrol]

i think my game broke

theres no music in the lobby and my music volume aint even turned down

.

nvm

[frail kindle]

it was the best in terms of progression

[acoustic sonnet]

actual.
It looked great for graphics, but had less gameplay features

but at this point I would prefer better graphics

[daring gate]

i just want optimization.

[acoustic sonnet]

actually, that even more

[daring gate]

How can my graphics go from ultra to low to be able to play SN properly

in ONE update.

[desert drum]

Remember When it could be night ingame that’s what made the game slightly more spooky and enjoyable

Now it’s only evening afternoon or mid day

Unless I’m wrong every match starts with entering the house and map 5 well it’s never night

To be honest snow should be part of the random weather sure it wouldn’t make sense but then again Quentin and Otto are in the game the story lore was thrown out the window

[lavish patrol]

When will they buff ghost?

[desert drum]

Ghost is already Balanced why buff him at most he needs a speed nerf in ghost form

[acoustic sonnet]

Generally alot of newbie players choose to play ghost first and say it's bad.
It's really not bad, there's so many people that actually know how to use it and esp abuse its door blocking ability. So generally its fair

[daring gate]

map 3 and 4 never have day if im right

[daring gate]

ghost def doesn't need a buff, more like a nerf so he cant instantly grab kids when going physical form

[acoustic sonnet]

Indeed

[frail kindle]

I have like a RTX 3070, if you're wondering why I'm bringing this up it's because the game is GPU heavy, and the best I'm getting is like 80 FPS max (it should be like 180+)

[acoustic sonnet]

[daring gate]

The good part is that the developers do know about the whole optimization problem and are working to fix it, if my bug report is anything to go by

but i just don't get it

and the weirder part? The game runs fast in LE, tutorial, and solo CG.

and not to mention the load times

[deft river]

hi, how can we play with my friend ?

but not Custom game

two people wont be fun

[desert drum]

What am I looking at?

[deft river]

will they add this option ?

yeah its not fun

playing with friends without custom

I think not so much people have 6 friend for play

[desert drum]

The problem with adding something like that is that it would make teamers more common

[daring gate]

They more than likely won't, as that would increase the likely hood of teamers

[acoustic sonnet]

And teamers are a big down side to this game

[boreal bay]

https://tenor.com/view/fall-the-lich-lich-king-adventure-time-litch-gif-3630070497349253076

[desert drum]

This makes sense to me

[acoustic sonnet]

indeed xd

[rare lynx]

SNVR
/j

[rare lynx]

Mine went from being able to only run medium, to be able to run high well, to barely being able to run low-mid

[rare lynx]

What do you think the best update was like content wise

I'd say maybe the update that added the LE

Call of kraa... maybe

[frail kindle]

I really can't say. There's always has been an update that didn't really feature enough content, at least good content, for it too last. Maybe summer update this year, but even then it had it's issue.

SN updates leave me wanting more

It's never really fulfilling

[rare lynx]

I think content wise summer update was the biggest

Even if it was broken

Technically this upstate was the boggest

If you think about it

2 new classes and a new artstyle

[frail kindle]

it was indeed the boggest

[rare lynx]

Even though its so broken its not fun

[rare lynx]

Shush

Autocorrect always fails me

[acoustic sonnet]

boggest indeed

[rare lynx]

😡

[daring gate]

"Fall. You are alone Taxidermist. There is only fall damage for you, and only Victory for us. This Level 3 ledge is just the beginning, I will command a great rescue squad and we will sail to five maps...we will sail until every basement lock has been opened. You may have a rifle Taxidermist, but we are beyond bullets and ammo. We are the end...

And we have come for you, Otto."

I took too much time on that

[rare lynx]

I think the winter update might be the first update that is meant to fix things

I'm not getting hopes up anymore

But they've gotten a lot of feedback regarding the current state of sn

[desert drum]

Fix map 5 and its skips is something that needed to be addressed

[acoustic sonnet]

🙏

[daring gate]

Map 5 needs a ACTUAL overhaul.

[rare lynx]

Surely something comes out of this

[daring gate]

not just moving around keycard gates, or fixing skips, it just needs to be remade

[acoustic sonnet]

indeed a good idea

[weak quiver]

i wish i could start playing SN again

but like

its so unfun now and idk why

it feels like a comp game now

[acoustic sonnet]

This update made the game lose its fun vibe

[weak quiver]

what did it add

i havent played since

2021

[acoustic sonnet]

HN2 art style, map changes

[weak quiver]

atleast properly

[acoustic sonnet]

those are the main

[weak quiver]

the stupid ai voices

i heard them

[acoustic sonnet]

but the HN2 art style just does not feel fun to play with

[acoustic sonnet]

They really need to redo them

[weak quiver]

literally what is the point in having them????

they sound so obviously bad and

[acoustic sonnet]

They are just so annoying

[weak quiver]

its not that hard to pay a voice actor like

30 dollars

to record some lines

[acoustic sonnet]

They also have really no expressions

They say something, and their face does not move

[weak quiver]

it sounds like they have the worst lisp

[acoustic sonnet]

ikr

[weak quiver]

"geth outh of my houthe...."

[acoustic sonnet]

Exactly though

its just a bad idea in the first place

And this update was a 'Halloween' update, and there's legit only like 2 pumpkins in each map

nothing else really

Since this update I've been only getting onto SN to check the shop

[weak quiver]

hologryph if having to put effort into something was a requirement

maybe they're just too underpaid to care enough

[acoustic sonnet]

maybee

[weak quiver]

i dont think its necessarily hologryphs fault

but i think everyone on that team doesnt really care about SN anymore

[acoustic sonnet]

And since it was a 'Halloween' update, they could of released it on Halloween it self to get more time to add more. Instead they released it like 4 days earlier

[acoustic sonnet]

TinyBuild is the publisher, and the main stream game of the franchise is HN2

so yea

[weak quiver]

i think they shouldve never gone with the route of trying to make it fit into the comp / "fortnite" esque style

[acoustic sonnet]

I have hope for this Winter update coming any time soon

[weak quiver]

because thats how fullgame feels

of SN

[smoky sequoia]

It's probably coming out today yayyy

[weak quiver]

"Winter update" and its gonna come out in spring

LOL

[long briar]

Fr fr

[long briar]

Oh no

Not the christmas in july again

[acoustic sonnet]

What I said at one point

[long briar]

I mean, you're not wrong

[weak quiver]

i think

they should stop working on sn

its dead

theres nothing to do

and they should just be working on making HN2 better

i know they have been

[smoky sequoia]

But it's diffrent devs

[acoustic sonnet]

I'm not going to say much about the games, but SN does have potential if they do some stuff

[weak quiver]

i know

im just saying

[smoky sequoia]

Fr

[weak quiver]

as like

a general tinyBuild perspective

[long briar]

They don't even buy servers

[weak quiver]

the "potential" would be the player count going from 5 people playing to like maybe 80 for 2 days

[frail kindle]

People assume that Hologryph can just stop updating the game at anytime

[acoustic sonnet]

After a update it goes from about 20 to 100. Then back to 20 in a week or so

[frail kindle]

It's not like that

[long briar]

That's normal

[weak quiver]

this is so sad

[frail kindle]

TB decides when to cut support

[long briar]

Alphas be like

[weak quiver]

i think thats so stupid

[acoustic sonnet]

Indeed

[frail kindle]

How?

[weak quiver]

whats the point in trying to get them to keep working on it

[frail kindle]

They're the publishers

They own Hologryph

They make the final say

[weak quiver]

yeah

but

im talking about just

wanting SN to be still worked on

not tinyBuild having a say over it

[frail kindle]

the same reason they keep milking the HN franchise

because it makes them money

[weak quiver]

SN? making them money? i think barely at this point

but they are going bankrupt so

[acoustic sonnet]

But I guess this is how game development works. They have publishers and the workers for them which the publishers own

[weak quiver]

gotta pick up the scraps

[acoustic sonnet]

ikrr

[long briar]

The only way they be losing money is by developing too much

[acoustic sonnet]

Sometimes stuff is not needed

[long briar]

Because servers are either cheap or free

[smoky sequoia]

There still is potential if they add sonar ability to all neighbors and bring back lighting from Alphas and ofc nerf Otto
This is the possibile to fix that game

[acoustic sonnet]

Like this, they have a perfect thing in game, and for ZERO reason they just remove it or replace it with something bad

[acoustic sonnet]

Alpha lighting can be tweaked a bit since its soo dark, but agreed

[weak quiver]

alpha lighting is way less dark than people remember it

i think fullgame is darker than the alphas right now lol

christmas alpha was bright as hell

[long briar]

Paranormal lighting was best

[smoky sequoia]

Holo just need to more listen to the players

[acoustic sonnet]

I joined around Paranormal somewhere

[long briar]

well they don't have many community managers

[long briar]

Same for PC

[rare lynx]

Full game is not dark at all

At least current fg

[smoky sequoia]

Yeah i Hope they do good stuff next year

[rare lynx]

There are no shadoes

[weak quiver]

2 years ago it was

[rare lynx]

Not any fog either

[weak quiver]

thats the last time i properly played

[acoustic sonnet]

shadoes

[rare lynx]

Yeah

[acoustic sonnet]

Afro moment

[rare lynx]

The game was better then imo

At least visualy

Well really it just was

[smoky sequoia]

They should do again good decorations for holidays like on paranormal update 2021

[smoky sequoia]

Agreed

[acoustic sonnet]

Pretty much this is what I think of old and new
Older; Better graphics in spots
Now; More gameplay components (leaderboards, skills etc)

[weak quiver]

but yeah imo i think the only way to truly save SN would be having to redo the game but that would be too much money and effort for them

[smoky sequoia]

And ofc they need to do better marketing for SN but TinyBuild probably prefer to more marketing HN2

[rare lynx]

I think there are other ways then a remake, though I think remaking it could be beneficial

[acoustic sonnet]

Yeaa

[weak quiver]

i think it would be the cleanest way to do it

[rare lynx]

Simply balancing and getting rid of bugs

[weak quiver]

i hate all the comp game type stuff

[rare lynx]

Then add ambient occlusion and good lighting and boom

Done

[weak quiver]

like the leaderboard and stuff

its just making the game unfun because people sweat cuz of it

[long briar]

Clearly for graphics, it's too much for them

[rare lynx]

Oh.. yeah I'm not too much of a fan of it either

O like the progression they added in summer camp update

But not really the leaderboard

[acoustic sonnet]

I would love skill based match making, but that will kill the game since there's not enough players

[rare lynx]

A little too competitive

[weak quiver]

oh yeah

gamemodes can also be killed

no one playing that stuff anymore

[long briar]

Brawl ☠️

[weak quiver]

i tried playing one for the first time

and i was waiting for like

30 mins

and never got a round

[acoustic sonnet]

Brawl moment indeed

[weak quiver]

so

[acoustic sonnet]

Sometimes I get straight into a round, and other times it takes for ever

that is not worth waiting

[smoky sequoia]

Just Holo should add good decorations, old ambience , nerf characters , better lighting and boom SN is fixed

[acoustic sonnet]

Generally I don't like the HN2 art style comapred to the HN1 art style.
Like old HN2 art style was good but it feels like the style will never fit the SN gameplay vibe

[long briar]

If they want to do gamemodes, they should redo it

How it works and everything

Prophunt for example

[acoustic sonnet]

You should be able to earn XP and Coins from playing gamemodes from brawl etc

Or there's no point for the average player to play it

[long briar]

It should be only 1 seeker and if you die being a prop, you become a seeker

Logical sense

Plus have a bigger room count

But idk how would that work

[weak quiver]

the only thing i like about SN is the level editor because its fun but even that is not as feature complete as i want it to be

[long briar]

Because the game files can only hold 6 players in one game

[acoustic sonnet]

I do agree, but it feels like the map is to big to find one with multiple seekers.

I mostly play with friends in prop hunt and there's ofc only one hider, and a few seekers. But it still takes a while to find a single prop since they can like abuse the bookshelf, hiding spots, glitches and just a big map

[long briar]

Only let seekers use bookshelf

Have rules of what a prop can do

[acoustic sonnet]

That's one great step to having a good prop hunt match

[long briar]

Fr

[smoky sequoia]

I only like it cause in the some rooms they finally add more stuff and now it's not that empty as it was before ( for example the kitchen room on map 1 )

[acoustic sonnet]

And one good thing for the game is to have trusted update play testers, this can greatly help to find bugs

[long briar]

Not like strict rules, but at least balanced

[acoustic sonnet]

True

[daring gate]

XP and Coins based on

Rifle Wars and Slingshot Wars:
Dealing Damage
Helping Teammates
Time Survived
Rounds Won

Prop Hunt:
Damage Dealt
Time Remaining
(Seekers only) No Sonar Used
Who Won

[rare lynx]

I agree

The level editor is fun

And low-key

[weak quiver]

i think it would be amazing if you could like

[radiant patrol]

same

[weak quiver]

set a specific weather

[long briar]

I WOULD DEFINITELY BE ONE LMAO

[weak quiver]

for levels

and also foliage editing

[radiant patrol]

facts

[acoustic sonnet]

Absolutely

[long briar]

They added too much grass this update

[radiant patrol]

and obv we still need trees

[acoustic sonnet]

The grass also makes the game lag so bad for some reason to

[long briar]

It drops frames after going a certain settings

It has animations

[acoustic sonnet]

Indeed

[long briar]

EACH BLADE OF GRASS

[daring gate]

I realy hope they have both closed and open testing.

[acoustic sonnet]

This will really be great

[daring gate]

closed for bug fixes and the like, open for major

[long briar]

One major step to being a better game

[smoky sequoia]

They just need to listen more to the what comunity wants if they wants to their game be more popular

[acoustic sonnet]

I really should make a feedback post about playtesters since they read the feedbacks rather then the chat here

like I'm not saying they don't read the chat here, but it will be easier to see in the feedback post section

[long briar]

True

[daring gate]

You know what time it is guys.

[long briar]

?

[daring gate]

Time for me to write a feedback

[rare lynx]

They seem to be better about that now. Like with the survey they sent out. That was really good we haven't gotten one of those in years

[acoustic sonnet]

Yesss

[long briar]

Alrighty

[daring gate]

https://tenor.com/view/fire-writing-gif-24533171

[long briar]

Me with the math test

[smoky sequoia]

And i think on next year they should focus on also doing small updates not only seasonal updates ( they should just do more patch update and maybe small updates that only added new skins and remove decorations )

[daring gate]

since people here usually like my feedbacks i'll try my best.

[long briar]

Sorry had to do it

[daring gate]

also before i start, i gotta say something. all events this update are more annoying.

[acoustic sonnet]

Because I see you actually put effort into it, and alot of understandable information.
And the ideas are actually always thought through

[long briar]

Me waiting for new skins so I can waste my hard cash

[acoustic sonnet]

yea, when we did this I just almost smashed my keyboard

like

Theres not any fog to

or light

[rare lynx]

HNG mods (afro and mystery) otw to write a 5 page essay on how to improve the games because they were bored:
(Great minds think alike)

[long briar]

They removed fog for better performance

[smoky sequoia]

But yeah agreed i'm also glad that they start's doing survey again it is good step to more listen to the players

[daring gate]

lucy was practically bugged
mayak doesn't look good
Rocket just...has too much to count
Snow Thief is, this video explains it

[acoustic sonnet]

But it really made the Lucy thing up there suck

[long briar]

When paranormal gives better fps than now

💀

[acoustic sonnet]

That round was fun

and broken

[long briar]

Least broken event

[acoustic sonnet]

I had a part on the last bit where you had to stack to get up into the vent

and your not meant to do that

[daring gate]

Jump height needs to return back to normal

[smoky sequoia]

I will probably disapoint but i believe they really finally do good decorations and old snow on this X-mas update

[long briar]

THE FNAF AT THE END

LMAO

[daring gate]

also, please allow us to disable the whole things disappearing if you're far away...

[acoustic sonnet]

'rarrow raggy'

[long briar]

I need to play more SN sometimes

Just seeing this looks so fun

[daring gate]

Get into custom games.

[acoustic sonnet]

SN is only fun with friends though

[daring gate]

that's how you have fun.

QG isn't

[rare lynx]

Its fun with mic players

[daring gate]

look at this house

[rare lynx]

Like in custom games

[daring gate]

half of it is gone on the inside

[late fractal]

ghost house

[long briar]

It's object rendering

They lowered the range

[daring gate]

Yeah and i wish i could just turn it off but i can't find out how

[smoky sequoia]

It's seems that they really hard working on this X-mas update so i really hope they do GOOD update this time

[long briar]

For better performance

[daring gate]

i find it funny

[acoustic sonnet]

But made the game look a whole lot worse at the same time

[long briar]

I know

[daring gate]

they disabled fog, lowered view distance, but it's the least optimized update. (they're fixing it though hopefully)

and pumpkin inside of cabinet.

[long briar]

They remake paranormal again in the background

[daring gate]

i should stop messing around

and write that feedback

[late fractal]

old key

[smoky sequoia]

There was literally only 5 or 6 pumpkins on the all maps this event isn't halloween update it more should called like just october update tbh

[long briar]

Dad, why did it randomly start thunderstorming outside? Son, those kids flipped the creepy neighbor's switch again

[acoustic sonnet]

They also added a treadmil this update

[acoustic sonnet]

its a normal neighborhood thing

[daring gate]

i miss the days when

[long briar]

True

[daring gate]

WHOOPS

misclick

[acoustic sonnet]

rip

[long briar]

That LOD 💀

[daring gate]

That is NOT pin worthy

[acoustic sonnet]

that screaming though

[rare lynx]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/474299944791048214/1175258557143326830/Secret_Neighbour_2023-11-17_21-16-33_-_Trim.mp4?ex=65864353&is=6573ce53&hm=7e3622642ece358097af255ed7ddd279aa38d1bb64a7a25ee93b2c724a1aec65&

The pumpkin in question

[smoky sequoia]

Guys do you think X-mas update coming out today ?

[long briar]

Bagger needs that

[acoustic sonnet]

SN is fun with mics

heres the proof

[rare lynx]

(They broke the tease emote and it looks creepy when quentin with a pumpkin head does it)

[daring gate]

this is also proof

[acoustic sonnet]

he laugh was crazy

[long briar]

Funny how I know everyone in this clip

[acoustic sonnet]

what else do I got, lemme look

[daring gate]

i scared the neighbor

[acoustic sonnet]

I deleted alot so yea

[long briar]

Who started spraying the tables?

[rare lynx]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/474299944791048214/1165117908880461895/Secret_Neighbour_2023-10-20_22-39-36.mp4?ex=6586491c&is=6573d41c&hm=1a4e9211a570930f82c60ee3d0b6a128ab5c6f333fb6fc2c97209c959075d8f0&

[acoustic sonnet]

Bagger moment

[acoustic sonnet]

I was a epic biker

[acoustic sonnet]

it was too flabbergasted

[smoky sequoia]

True SN is still secret when you Play on custom games but when you Play QG it's tuning to a combat game ( kids just fighting with the neighbor all match )

[acoustic sonnet]

Quick games are full of sweaty people trying to win

While on custom people are chill and wanting to mess around

[smoky sequoia]

Yeah true

[acoustic sonnet]

when its my first match in the morning

[long briar]

Totally green

[worn lintel]

I kinda miss Summer Camp

[rare lynx]

I seriously found the funniest mic recorded sn video I have (my laugh bro 💀)
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/474299944791048214/1141476599951261818/Secret_Neighbour_2023-08-16_16-58-35.mp4?ex=658c906d&is=657a1b6d&hm=7b59bc55eec9764d17f0f31a43d2cf646d40fb3a38ae8af61eb65723d60d2f82&

[long briar]

Ah yes

Dead game

[acoustic sonnet]

fun times

lol

[worn lintel]

truth

[acoustic sonnet]

do you have that one where me and someone else both got stuck in a beartrap, that was a epic fail 🤣

[rare lynx]

Oh yeah! Ik what your talking about but I can't find it

[acoustic sonnet]

sad

I deleted many of my funny videos for storage, imma sort through them

[rare lynx]

That was honestly one of the most well executed sn plays I had seen

How he placed the bear traps perfectly that we both ran into them

[acoustic sonnet]

idk what that was but that was perfect (for you) lol

[worn lintel]

i knew should've left them behind

[rare lynx]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/474299944791048214/1135322326867660920/Secret_Neighbour_2023-07-24_22-50-20_Trim.mp4?ex=6588a1cf&is=65762ccf&hm=605da8e61a19a281dbc6bea276b65d3e4936ef5f8ce83d97ef4cbac384cbde6f&

Loud warning

[acoustic sonnet]

Might be LOUD
*Braves when they know they are going to lose the round

[desert drum]

I always wondered if you could survive the storm if you hid in a wardrobe or something

[daring gate]

you can survive the storm

not in the way you think though.

[acoustic sonnet]

Krispy, how do you find these sounds 🤣

[daring gate]

https://discord.com/channels/474299944254308373/1185090952373751838 also here ya go

[acoustic sonnet]

🏃‍♂️ 💨

[rare lynx]

Ok I won't flood the chat with these but this clip is still hilarious
(I'm RadicalMedusa btw)
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/474299944791048214/1175285904319983636/french_fry.mp4?ex=65865ccb&is=6573e7cb&hm=388a0e049ad8239d14c2717d7fab000c76666be34ac18aedad6312513a122afa&

[acoustic sonnet]

I luv the names of these clips though lol

and this is the average Afro moment

[rare lynx]

I am always either casually good at the game or so bad at the game is laughable

[acoustic sonnet]

facts

real

[rare lynx]

This was the only day I had fun during the Halloween update

[acoustic sonnet]

Last video I will send so I won't flood more.

(Meeting SN players with mics is enjoyable)

And its sorta a old video

[desert drum]

How does this get pasts produced testing how!?!

[daring gate]

also outside of the map in map 3, you can run into invisible walls/houses that were supposed to be deleted this update

[worn lintel]

dear lord

[daring gate]

"Hello Krispy"
opens the portal to the nest

[long briar]

It's still possible to jump over the gate

[daring gate]

Yep...

[acoustic sonnet]

[acoustic sonnet]

I'm guessing the 'Guest easter egg' just happened in lobby.
Sad that they changed the pitch though

[daring gate]

they should increase the probability of the guest easter egg or possibly have a event or something that increases the possibility of it happening.

[acoustic sonnet]

Or more easter eggs like that in general

Its cool, but I always wanted more. It can be like that, or some random pop up easter eggs etc

[daring gate]

imagine if rarely when playing a car will pass by the house, like Man In The Hat's car or something

just imagine hiding outside as you hear police sirens

[acoustic sonnet]

Like for example; MITH popping over and edge for a second then falling back down

[acoustic sonnet]

I would actually love that

It just needs good timing

[desert drum]

It made sense because they were teasing the guest as a playable character but now it doesn’t make sense it can still happen even if guest is the neighbor

Which is kinda funny

[daring gate]

it wasn't them teasing him as a playable character

[acoustic sonnet]

Ngl, there needs to be some for events

[daring gate]

that easter egg was added to tease Hello Guest

just like Mayak

...i miss the windmill.

[acoustic sonnet]

same

[desert drum]

Huh well it kinda was put to waste as hello guest was rebranded as HN2 I think

[acoustic sonnet]

Even though I never played with it but it looks cool to have

[acoustic sonnet]

Well it was for its time

before that

[desert drum]

Who do you think is the Most OP character currently?

[daring gate]

Otto.

[acoustic sonnet]

**Yes, Otto **

[daring gate]

Mister Rifle with infinite ammo

[acoustic sonnet]

**If you say its not Otto, then your a fake **

[acoustic sonnet]

real

[desert drum]

Toy shotgun

not a fake

Sure…..

[acoustic sonnet]

Totally not a killing machine

[desert drum]

You know I remember when I was playing an old Version of HN2 that Otto’s gun could miss fire

Why not make that happen in SN or make it so sometimes firing would hurt Otto from the recoil

[long briar]

Randomly having traps stacked like this is so dumb

[desert drum]

They made butchers hook deal damage to himself if he hit by his hook

[desert drum]

Yes

It’s very dumb

One hit knock down

With a smoke bomb

[daring gate]

The randomly placed traps need to have a radius around them where another cannot be placed.

so no layered traps, no smoketraps near beartraps

[acoustic sonnet]

Happens most when the neighbor is chasing you, or you have the last key

I swear though

[desert drum]

I swear when there’s a smoke trap there’s a beartrap

[long briar]

Especially when there is a object in the way or not

It is so dumb seeing like 6 traps on a bed

[daring gate]

and traps that defy gravity

[desert drum]

Ah yes my favorite the beartrap on the wall

[acoustic sonnet]

legendary

[desert drum]

Or door

[daring gate]

them being glued to the side of sofas

and roofs

[acoustic sonnet]

Ah yes, my beartrap on a back of a chair. Most comfortable sit down

[desert drum]

And when to get caught you’re sideways

Imagine this you get a chance that you’re daily task is win matches as taxidermist and then you get a lobby full of scouts and you get neighbor

Good luck

[daring gate]

you just need to play smart.

don't blindly run in and shoot.

What's worse than a otto that just goes around shooting? one that actually has a plan and can outsmart you.

[long briar]

The otto sweats are the worst

Chair randomly disappeared

[daring gate]

Otto just is the worst

Doesn't fit into SN lore.
Not fun to play as nor against
Ai voice
Not face rigged
Stock Neighbor Laugh.
(all things i hope get addressed)

[long briar]

Why did the clip redo itself

[long briar]

I know

[daring gate]

i know i'm repeating what's already known but

[desert drum]

I hope they do fix it and not simple give Otto the neighbor’s ho ho ho

Also a chase theme because why doesn’t he already

[long briar]

It's not right at all to put in a character that isn't even fully finished

[daring gate]

They should have:
Divided this update into two parts, revamp and the new characters
TESTED the characters

[young mulch]

me who has thrown about 30 boxes at otto: WHY WON'T YOU DIE?!

[long briar]

Sounds about right

Otto is basically butcher, but just more annoying

[young mulch]

all i can think about from that sentence is metal gear rising.

that one part where raiden is punching armstrong

[daring gate]

Otto does seem to have less health, the problem is you can hardly hit him due to the constant stun/damage he gives with his rifle

[young mulch]

i think the best character that can deal with otto, is leader, thanks to her stun resistance

[long briar]

Leader and scout

[young mulch]

yea

[desert drum]

Does the extra damage perk Actually do anything I feel like it doesn’t make much of a change

[young mulch]

and for my brave my perks are:
nimble hands
strong hands
sprinter

[desert drum]

Like 12% more damage

I’m still having to do like 5 hits before knocking anyone down

Where is my extra damage

[young mulch]

i think because they always run

but im not so sure

also, as much as most people are gonna isagree....ghost is more annoying than otto. (in my opinion)

[daring gate]

Leader and Scouts are the best combo to deal with a taxidermist.

Get scout to start the stun lock, blind the taxidermist and keep hitting him, using inspiration to stop yourself from being shot.

[young mulch]

YESS

[hard dirge]

might

[young mulch]

oh yeah

[hard dirge]

not confirmed

lets just hope it comes out today

[daring gate]

please don't say this as people may take it as the official release date

[young mulch]

also question for everyone (mostly brave players lol): most underrated and overrated brave costume?

[daring gate]

it happens more than you think

[hard dirge]

bro I said might

[daring gate]

I know you did.

[hard dirge]

but I know what time the update will come out

[daring gate]

but often times when people predict the update coming out, people may take it as the official date and start getting hyped

[hard dirge]

well the people who take it as an official date are stupid

[daring gate]

i wouldn't call them stupid. it's just how things get spread around.

[acoustic sonnet]

indeed

[daring gate]

I hope they make the 'ghost nearby' and 'freezing' effect different.

[atomic scroll]

Any confirmation of a Christmas update happening?

[sage lake]

Is there gonna Secret Neighbor Christmas update 2023/2024?

If yes then the exact date....

[young mulch]

i hope we get superhero brave

[barren shore]

There should be a channel specifically for afro for him to upload his clips

[copper escarp]

The price for the other neighbor’s on iOS is insane

[marble eagle]

Christmas is rapidly approaching...

[wispy karma]

https://tenor.com/view/mariah-carey-its-time-christmas-2022-gif-27111689

[covert lily]

And i am waiting Percy Jackson coming on Disney+

Coming in 20 of december

https://open.spotify.com/track/0bYg9bo50gSsH3LtXe2SQn?si=A2UvJ96OQDCA3XxoZTMu9g

[marble eagle]

Ooooh I forgot that was on it's way!

[marble eagle]

I literally cannot listen to this song again

[covert lily]

Yes! Are you also a half-blood?

[wispy karma]

[covert lily]

Great ALL of mods are here

🌲🎅🔔

Wait, when there's Christmas the Grinch appears but here the Grinch would be Guest?

[timber burrow]

Hi guys, do you know if there will be a Christmas update on Secret Neighbor?

[hard dirge]

people are predicting that it's today

if it is today, it's probably at 9:00 PM GMT+5

cuz that's when most updates come out

why would it come out next year tho?

it would come out in 2056

I saw that lol

[topaz tinsel]

shh

[marble eagle]

read the books yeeeears ago

Was disappointed by the film adaptions though

[hard dirge]

ik

the update should come out in an hour. if not then it means that it's not today

[topaz tinsel]

i don't think the update will come out today

hope i'm wrong

[wise tinsel]

they probably wouldve announced it if it was coming out today

[topaz tinsel]

probably

[mellow plaza]

👀

[wise tinsel]

oh cool

probably in the next few days then if its not just a random bugfixing build

[oblique hinge]

Hopefully within the next week 🙏

[wise tinsel]

yeah that would be awesome

[oblique hinge]

Preferably this weekend as the updates normally release around this time (2020 was 18th December as an example)

[hard dirge]

true

Let's just hope it's today

[copper escarp]

Ngl the caught screams are goofy

Enzo just cries

[young mulch]

when i first got brave's school outfit, i was a little weirded out that she didn't have gloves, but i remembered her little red riding hood outfit from the easter update had no gloves

[copper escarp]

Little red riding hood Brave 😭

[young mulch]

i think it's...underrated?

[young mulch]

naw, bagger has the goofiest screams

he screams in lowercase

[young mulch]

see?

"aaaaaaa" - Delroy, 2023

[copper escarp]

His only good scream is that one tbh

[young mulch]

yea

[copper escarp]

Actually sounds like a child getting captured

[young mulch]

brave's screams.

I think they're fine. except for her more quieter one.

I get it

but still

[copper escarp]

One of them is just a uh idk not a scream

It’s just a “huh” sound or something

[young mulch]

she literally goes "huh"

[copper escarp]

Leader’s screams are annoying

[young mulch]

YES

also was i the only one to think that brave was a boy at first?

[copper escarp]

Yes

Always thought she was a girl

[young mulch]

the reason i thought she was a boy at first was because of her costumes, especially her speedrunner costume.

(i started playing when SN first released on xbox)

[copper escarp]

Scout is just her going “hurheheh”

Doesn’t sound scared

Sounds stupid

[young mulch]

inventor's screams tho

[copper escarp]

He sounds like Tails with those screams

[young mulch]

...inventor just reminds me of tails in general

[copper escarp]

It comes to me on how these kids are allowed to leave there houses at mid night without getting punished

Except Trinity

She’s the only one who has been grounded

[hard dirge]

I also thought she was a boy at first

[young mulch]

i never even questioned that until you even mentioned it

[copper escarp]

Bagger is probably homeless

Enzo and Maritza come from rich people so they ain’t gon get grounded

Inventor is smarter then his parents prob

And Scout probably goes to summer camp

[young mulch]

wait they do?

[copper escarp]

Yeah mentioned in HND

[young mulch]

ohh

https://tenor.com/view/secret-neighbor-hello-neighbor-enzo-esposito-bruh-gif-21387159

my favorite enzo moment

[marble eagle]

when writing wednesday's advent calendar post, just before sending i was like "wait, actually Brave is a she, right?!"

That woulda been embarrassing

[green temple]

@stuck coral

GG

[hard dirge]

6 mins and maybe the update will come out

I doubt it tho

well it's 9:00

[smoky sequoia]

The update must out today

[hard dirge]

it's 9:00 PM

it either comes out no

now

[smoky sequoia]

Look they do now test-b1

[hard dirge]

or it isn't going to come out today

[desert drum]

What new update the Xmas update?

[hard dirge]

yaeh

yeah*

[smoky sequoia]

It also comes out a bit later today

[hard dirge]

or that

[hard dirge]

where do I see this from

it's in steamdb right?

[desert drum]

I hope Otto and ghost are Nerf

[hard dirge]

same

[desert drum]

But not completely I’m a ghost main and I would not be grateful if they nerf my main again

but ghost actually needs his speed in ghost form nerfed

that’s still a problem

[hard dirge]

I don't think it's coming out today guys

[smoky sequoia]

I think it's coming today

[topaz tinsel]

me neither

[hard dirge]

I'm sad now

[young mulch]

is it gonna be out for the microsoft store/xbox version at the same time as the steam version?

[jovial heron]

the update should arrive soonish

not today

[desert drum]

Wouldn’t it make more sense to release the update on IOS as well? They still haven’t gotten the Halloween 2023 yet

[broken warren]

They'll just add snow and skins, I don't think there will be anything big

[marble eagle]

Not gonna be any updates today

if there were any updates planned, that is 👀

[hard dirge]

well I'm sad now

[topaz tinsel]

yea it will be probably fix it update so they probably gonna fix stuff add snow and that's all

[hard dirge]

well snow is better than nothing

[topaz tinsel]

yea

i love snow so

[hard dirge]

same

[desert drum]

The seasonal skins are still Halloween

[topaz tinsel]

they will probably change seasonal with the update release

[fading crest]

Anyone got today's shop

[desert drum]

I’m starting the game so all see when I see

[brazen fjord]

anyone wanna play together secret neighbor?

[broken warren]

Are you sure there will be an update today?

[smoky sequoia]

I think he's lying to us

[jovial heron]

i dont believe any secret neighbor news thats not from secret neighborhood news

[smoky sequoia]

They literally do today test-b1 and that's means that they uptaded the game right now so i'm still belevie that X-mas update will out today

[desert drum]

Shop

[brazen fjord]

good

[jovial heron]

release candidate didint update

it needs to update to release

[hard dirge]

let's hope it does. I doubt it tho

[smoky sequoia]

besides, they always released updates before December 20 (last year, last year, the update was released on December 15) if it doesn't come out today, only Tuesday will remain (December 19)

[desert drum]

Why do I keep getting win matches as guest is there’s something related to this?

[broken warren]

Are you sure there will be an update today?