secret-neighbor

[rare lynx]

:o

:D

[cerulean ravine]

I have to go to bed right now... Thank you so much for the help!

you are awesome!

[rare lynx]

Thank YOU

[cerulean ravine]

Bye!

[rare lynx]

Yeah and goodnight

Cya

@ripe cliff

Turn back into kid form when you are on top.of the chimney

And spam E

Tell me when ready

[ripe cliff]

ready

got it

[rare lynx]

You did?

[nova shell]

what is wrong with secret neighbor randomly making me missing while neighbor is not nearby

[copper escarp]

bug

[civic tusk]

guys, how can i get Lucy's bracelet trophey? I watched the tutorial, and when I tried to repeat that, there was no hole to throw a key, and ghost cant go through the wall.

[feral sorrel]

this skin isnt as bad as i first thought

[pale quest]

@round prairie Watch out your language!!

Eu sei, e está quebrando diretamente a regra 1

Este tipo de linguagem não é tolerado aq

[dusty wedge]

Throw it through the cabinet shelf thing

Ghost can get through, you just need to find the right spot

[nova shell]

its really weird that it keeps happening

[pine lichen]

thats the meaning of bug lol

[civic tusk]

thx

[timid widget]

let's go to brawl mode?

[cerulean ravine]

is Lucy's bracelet still obtainable?

[nova shell]

he has good dance moves.

he doesnt know im the neighbor

😈

[ripe cliff]

yes

[cerulean ravine]

how do you get it then?

i can't go through the wall to get the bracelet

[pine lichen]

the wall is a bit weird

[pine lichen]

you need to look around to get through the wall

[cerulean ravine]

ok

still can't

[pine lichen]

heres a video

hope you will understand it better

[cerulean ravine]

thanks

It worked thank you!

[pine lichen]

no problem

[cerulean ravine]

where would you usually find the heart key?

[pine lichen]

it spawns randomly

[cerulean ravine]

dang

[pine lichen]

it has the same physics as a key i will spawn everywhere

in a closet on a shelve anywhere

just gotta look around

[pine lichen]

i can help if you want

[cerulean ravine]

I have been looking for a while now and I can't find it

I found the key how do I get it into the room?

[pine lichen]

through the wood shelve

do you still need help

[cerulean ravine]

oh ok thanks

I got the bracelet thank you!

[wispy karma]

What is your platform?

[pine lichen]

uhh i think the servers arent even down

still works

[wispy karma]

We tested Steam, Xbox and Ms Store, everything seems to be normal, if you have any problems with the servers please ping us

[pine lichen]

iOS also works fine

[worn lintel]

secret neighbor brave real

[civic tusk]

I feel bad for the neighbor lol

[worn lintel]

the neighbor won because he had the brain power to understand that attacking people in groups isn't a good idea

[rare lynx]

https://tenor.com/view/mega-brain-big-brain-math-pineapple-gif-gif-25841999

[glossy venture]

Daaaaaang
Smart play 😂

[rare lynx]

You can get it on steam, console, and ios

https://www.secretneighbor.com/

Downloads here

[vast nebula]

tem alguem br aqui

[copper escarp]

What do the levers do btw?

[civic sluice]

türk varmı lan

[glacial jungle]

Please use english and no spam

[topaz jacinth]

Bruh

[glossy sphinx]

Idk, I'm Russian and secret neighbor blocked for me in Steam

Because blocked country

But why

[ancient kestrel]

He is swearing in that language

[pine lichen]

what no they arent

[visual swan]

Sup

[pine lichen]

yea the challenges sometimes glitches out

10 tickets for one day

[feral sorrel]

@spark ledge i have a hunch that this isnt you

[slim locust]

This will be a secret neighbor map for sure if secret neighbor works for me to play. This thumbnail dosen't have blood it is ink the map is called Hello Neighbor Bendy so basiclly the neighbors house is changing to a bendy house to talking t cleary the neighbors is getting rotten and old there is a basement still a ton of secrets and more things im planning these things in a fan art this is just thumbnail not an art it will be in game soon.

[stoic trellis]

When is the roblox edition coming out?

[slim locust]

Hello Neighbor 2? Im not the owner and i don't know when it comes out but there are other hello neighbor robloxs games.

[worn lintel]

no confirmed release date

but shouldn't take long

[cobalt burrow]

I have a question

Will iOS secret neighbor get an update. I am a pc user but just curious

[lavish monolith]

Hello

[olive escarp]

maybe it got cancelled, or they are working on porting it.

[daring gate]

The Random Kid has 4 tickets on purpose i think

considering it's

1. randomization
2. 3 matches

[vocal dagger]

Why are there no ppl in Xbox sn

I’ve been waiting 2 hours to get into a game wth

[worn lintel]

Cus it's not on gamepass anymore

[vocal dagger]

😱

I litteraly am so annoyed

Cross play when?

Why can’t we have cross play

[worn lintel]

Idk

Probably because the updates being late on certain consoles/devices

[vocal dagger]

I hate this game now

[worn lintel]

Just get the iOS version

That is rarely updated

[brittle wigeon]

snow tree ❤️ wonder if i could make it bigger

[vocal dagger]

W

[hollow haven]

yay i lost a penalty match 😂

yessir i lost another penalty match

[worn lintel]

Congrats

I’m still stuck on 3 penalty rounds on Xbox

[hollow haven]

oh wow

[worn lintel]

I’m glad I switched to pc

[hollow haven]

just one more player

ok nvm

and i lost another one

Yaaay

[brittle wigeon]

lol penalty rounds are a pain for some reason even if matching will only take just another minute

[hollow haven]

I DID IT

finally

real journey

[dusty wedge]

There are plenty of people. 3-5 minutes or less is the average time for a quick game. Two hours is bogus unless of course you are playing at a strange time everyone is asleep at. Still, it wouldn't take hours. The better question is, why would you stay in the lobby for two hours just to get in a match?

[vocal dagger]

I was exaggerating I was waiting for like 30 mins

But im fine now

Wait nvm

[dusty wedge]

There's a reason it was removed from Game Pass. Stuff like that doesn't just happen un-noticeably. Games getting removed from Game Pass can only mean two things. 1. Holo and Tiny decided to remove it from Game Pass because they have big plans for it. And 2. The contract that was signed 3 years ago has finally expired. It's up to Holo, Tiny, and Xbox if it is to be renewed. Xbox games can go back on Game Pass without notice, so don't be surprised. But also don't be surprised if it doesn't, they might have big plans for it coming soon, plans they don't need Xbox or Microsoft for, and this isn't a bad thing.

[dusty wedge]

30 minutes is still forever to be waiting in a lobby so I don't believe you at all, but okay, whatever.

[vocal dagger]

Ok well that’s not the point

All I’m saying is that it takes quite a while to load into a game

On Xbox

In my opinion

[dusty wedge]

Okay. I get it. But going from 5-10 minutes to 2 hours isn't a little exaggeration, so I'm sure you can see why I'm confused. Anyway, my point was, Xbox is still pretty populated, and nothing will change my mind since it is my only platform, to which I play very often on. So, for the future, just keep in mind, if you're trying to make sense, you could just say you've been waiting for 7 minutes to get into a game instead of 2 hours. 🙂👍

[cunning spire]

Bruh 💀

You'll be surprised on how long people wait for this game

[cunning spire]

Does it really matter

No

[olive escarp]

then dont leave the game.

i understand having penalty on pc because of hackers, but on any other platform?

[dusty wedge]

Yes. All I'm saying is, in the future, if they are really trying to make a point or make any sense, then there is no point in over-exaggeration. Is that so hard to understand?

[dusty wedge]

How can someone wait 30 minutes in a QG if it doesn't even take that long to get in one?

[cunning spire]

Not everyone has the ability to critically think, plus it's kind of obvious what they meant, you don't need specifics all the time

[cunning spire]

Again, it doesn't even matter how long it takes or how long they waited for, they're just telling you how long it may feel like to get into a game.

This is like the dumbest thing I've ever seen in this chat

Not saying you're dumb, I just don't know why we need the exact time someone waited

[cunning spire]

Game could've crashed

[dusty wedge]

Critically think? Seriously? It was not obvious to me because I genuinely thought they meant it took that long to get into a game for them, they never said it "felt" that long or that they were exaggerating until later on. Your interference in the conversation between us is very unnecessary especially since I'm sure they can speak for themself. I wasn't being mean, I was asking logical questions to get answers for myself. It may be sound dumb to you, but only because you don't understand why I'm asking at all. I was trying to inform them not to over-exaggerate if they are trying to make any sense, not harass them. I had questions, am I allowed to ask them without being ganged up on? I don't need specifics for everything, but I like to clear up big questions people have and questions I have, and asking real questions is the best way I can do it.

[cunning spire]

Fair

[main mulch]

Is it just me or has Secret Neighbor become visually ugly

[cunning spire]

Oh my gosh it's the man themselves

I remember u

Anyway yes sn Is ugly

[main mulch]

I feel like that the more realistic looking nature assets and lighting just don't fit with the cartoony assets

Also I don't remember you, sorry

[cunning spire]

That's a good thing

And probably because I left because I left constantly, and I was formerly banned

[cunning spire]

Yeah it kinda throws it off but doesn't bother me much

[main mulch]

I think I remember you if you're the person who I think you are

[cunning spire]

Who

[main mulch]

Does your real life second name start with the letter M?

To be more precise, is your name Mason?

If it is then I remember you

[cunning spire]

No far from it lmao

Ik who you are referring to

I was banned permanently for seemingly no reason, a reason that deserved just a simple warning

And I was unbanned before the unban wave happened

[main mulch]

An unban wave?

[cunning spire]

Yeah I'm pretty sure

People like the week games was unbanned

even if they deserved it

[main mulch]

I'm going to be honest I am completely clueless about what you're talking about, I haven't been hanging around the HN community as much as I used to

[rare lynx]

https://tenor.com/view/youre-your-gif-22328611

[cunning spire]

Same honestly

Mainly cuz HN games are kinda bad

[cunning spire]

https://tenor.com/view/youre-youre-correction-youre-meme-youre-gman-gman-gif-21786686

[rare lynx]

https://tenor.com/view/clone-drone-in-the-danger-zone-yroue-gif-22600859

[cunning spire]

If only there was a cursed secret neighbor version

[rare lynx]

Oooo

[rare lynx]

If I learn animation is blender that is the first render I will make

[cunning spire]

Or I could just get waffle boi to do it

He's kinda professional at animation

[rare lynx]

Lmao

Yeah I need someone to do it

The secret neighbor model neighbor getting into his car as the explosion happens behind him

With y'roue at the top

[short spire]

hn2 version would be better (i don't like how sn neighbor looks like)

[worn lintel]

I think the game detects crashes and doesn’t give you a penalty

But idk I haven’t played console version in like 2 years

Probably left some matches due to teamers or annoying people

[limpid lava]

what's not to appreciate about those giant hands tho...

[olive escarp]

if it crashes on any other platform than pc it won't give you penalty.

[rare lynx]

I think it might also look cool if it was one of the sn kids getting in the car. Maybe scout with the sun glasses

[cunning spire]

He doesn't like the rig

[rare lynx]

Oh

[cunning spire]

I keep getting random friend requests from that same dude again

[rare lynx]

Who

Oh wait

Nvrm

Yeah just block him

[olive escarp]

whenever they dm me i just troll them lol

[boreal bay]

I'd just turn server friend requests off

[cunning spire]

It's kinda dumb I have to do that but yes

[rare lynx]

@cunning spire turn on DMs rq 💀

Needa show you smth

[cunning spire]

Ok

Actually just add me

@rare lynx

[pale quest]

Hey, guys! Real quick question, what do you think about halloween 2020 update?

[feral sorrel]

booyah

[limpid lava]

i thought it was pretty decent, i know the lighting is controversial among SN players but the change in atmosphere made the game feel very fresh, and butcher obv is awesome

[pale quest]

I've seen this controversial thing too. I was just asking this cause I was comparing the game we have now to the old one

Cause idk, this new lightning seems a bit off

[limpid lava]

i think the halloween 2020 lighting felt more polished, idk nowadays even with max graphics the game looks kinda amateurish

[pale quest]

I know, it looks really odd

I also didn't like the new collision, the one we got on map 5 release

[limpid lava]

you can climb up practically anything now lol

reminds me of when the game didn't have sliding physics at all, i'm pretty sure back in the days of the first pre alpha youtubers figured out how to just... climb the collision on the fence and chill in the sky

[pale quest]

I remember that lol

Just on xmas alpha it got patched

[pale quest]

I thought it had been fixed

[limpid lava]

this is such a goofy screenshot and i love it

[daring gate]

imagine my surprise when i see someone climbing up the little pole by the level 2 area in map 5 again

[limpid lava]

nah the physics still kinda suck, there's some things that have the proper sliding mechanic but a lot of them don't

[pale quest]

[pale quest]

Oh no...

I tried to do that skip a couple of time but it didn't work :/

Nowadays I barely play the game anymore due to map 5

[limpid lava]

i do that every time i play map 5 since i'm fairly sure the level 1 area doesn't spawn any keys 99% of the time

[daring gate]

it's harder to pull off but I've seen others, and myself doing that.

Yeah level 1 doesn't...it just feels like filler

Hm. if only map 5 had more things to use keycards for, or perhaps a bigger level 1 area.

[pale quest]

Just to make sure I didn't say it wrong, I don't blame who plays it

[limpid lava]

map 5 is sort of a fundamentally flawed map tbh

[pale quest]

Yeah, it doesn't

[limpid lava]

nothing wrong if you enjoy it, but i think its design is the worst of them all

[daring gate]

Map 5 was the most let down i've been.

[pale quest]

I know, everything is just too big and it just doesn't work

[barren rapids]

I loved the lobby music then

[pale quest]

Same

[barren rapids]

tied best music with normal sn lobby music imo

[daring gate]

A wide open map set in the park? How could you go wrong? Oh wait...plenty of skips (some still in the game) and for as big as it is, it's INCREDIBLY linear

[pale quest]

I also miss the normal sn music

[limpid lava]

i was mixed on it at the time, but after halloween 2021's theme i learned to appreciate the 2020 one a hell of a lot more

[pale quest]

I actually enjoy the skips cause it helps me to win faster on that map. At least they used to work back then

[limpid lava]

still sucks that it was nerfed from the trailer version tho, that guitar absolutely slapped

[daring gate]

i think the level 4 skip may be the worst one perhaps.

[pale quest]

The one we climb the tent?

[daring gate]

yeah

[pale quest]

Btw, I believe map 5 is the only map which don't have any gates

[daring gate]

No it does

the gate is just USELESS.

[limpid lava]

no, there is one in the level 3 area

but since there's a window right next to it, there's literally no value

[pale quest]

I mean a gate for the neighbor

Oh, I see what you mean

There's actually a gate lol

But it's useless

[daring gate]

Yeah. There's literally a window by it, what's the point. Atmosphere for the haunted house ride?

[pale quest]

Spooky

[daring gate]

spooky gate that's always down-

i'm so scared-

[pale quest]

Yeah. Also, map 5 really needs a rework

[daring gate]

I agree immensely.

[pale quest]

I would even suggest its removal

For me, it just doesn't work

[limpid lava]

surprisingly, that is a very uncontroversial take

most would agree on that

[pale quest]

I know

[daring gate]

It added like some of the most annoying things in the game

While the vending machines and shovel i can enjoy, i simply cannot enjoy the map's structure AND the lucy event

[limpid lava]

lucy event was such a drag to figure out

[pale quest]

Vending machines should also be on other maps

[limpid lava]

the ending isn't even that hype either

[daring gate]

Yeah, just move somethings from map 5 onto other maps...

While we're at it, add some teleporters to map 5

the neighbor room is simply too big.

[limpid lava]

would be cool if we got the teleporters in the same spots the level up generators were placed on map 1 actually

[pale quest]

That would help a ton. Although the neighbor is really op on map 5

[daring gate]

i suggest the teleporters so the neighbor room could become smaller, perhaps to allow for a level 1 area of sorts.

[limpid lava]

tfw competent butcher on map 5

[smoky sequoia]

It would be cool if we have also the teleporters in level editor

[daring gate]

anything to make the map non linear

[pale quest]

Btw, the map feels empty

There are a lot of places where items could be places

This would also help

[limpid lava]

you know, if the gaap was a real place it would be the worst amusement park ever

there's hardly any attractions

[daring gate]

add minigames that have prizes or something...its' probably a meh addition but who wouldn't want to play a target game as scout and get rewarded with perhaps a candy bar

[pale quest]

There' a tent, spooky ride, a small house and some shooting game?

[rare lynx]

🤩

[pale quest]

This is actually a cool idea

[daring gate]

heck! You could make it so you'd earn the camera and dolls for the lucy event this way!

[limpid lava]

also a rollercoaster that takes up 90% of the park's airspace, and some abandoned buildings that were probably entirely for selling products 💀

[pale quest]

But first I'd reccomend they fix the main issues the game has

[daring gate]

Yeah, rework first, then additions

[pale quest]

I mean, all maps could be reworked in some kind of way

[rare lynx]

They should add an actual physical roller coaster that touches the ground and makes sense and has its own area imo

[daring gate]

Mph, yeah.

[pale quest]

Something I really wished would happen is keys being able to spawn anywhere in the house since it was this way on the alphas and beta.

[limpid lava]

mostly on the decorative side of things, map 1 and 2 have solid layouts but a lot of the rooms look really bland

[pale quest]

I know it would kinda ruin the purpose of keycards but would allow for a better game experience

[daring gate]

if they were worried about the matches ending too early, they could just lower the chance of keys spawning on the lower floors. but it's never zero\

[limpid lava]

they could also slow down player movement speed and lower the jump height so the maps take longer to generally traverse across

[pale quest]

Also, keycards also make the gameplay always the same

[limpid lava]

and make the opening of drawers and cabinets and whatnot slower so you spend more time in rooms

[rare lynx]

MouseFlash remade map 1 and it is opposite of bland. Honestly holo should take inspiration from fan made maps

[pale quest]

I tested this map

[daring gate]

Perhaps certain keycard doors could be replaced with boarded up doors. so you'll have to look for another route

[pale quest]

It was reallt good

[daring gate]

like uh...the alpha.

man, what went wrong?

[rare lynx]

Yeah

[pale quest]

Would be better

[limpid lava]

oh yeah absolutely solid decoration, i don't like playing it tho cuz of set keycard spawns

obviously not his fault tho

[rare lynx]

Yeah

[pale quest]

Honestly, for me, since keycards were added

Brick walls were much better

[daring gate]

it prevents the player from having a strict layout to go throuhg

[limpid lava]

i think if you paired the randomization with slower paced gameplay and patched skips, SN matches would flow a lot nicer

[pale quest]

Which makes gameplay random

[olive escarp]

level editor shows that it wouldnt be good.

[limpid lava]

oh and the hopefully muffled sound that will come with the improved sound system, if it's anything BUT that i will be very sad

[olive escarp]

wouldnt*

[daring gate]

And if the game play is random, then replayablity goes up...and what do you get with replayablity?

MORE PLAYERS.

[pale quest]

You mean brick walls?

[pale quest]

Yup

[limpid lava]

yeah though i think there could be more done in the randomization department than just that

[olive escarp]

i meant that it wouldnt be good

[limpid lava]

fun fact: when the level up generators were first being conceptualized, the abilities you would gain from them would be entirely random each match

this was before neighbor classes were invented obv

[rare lynx]

What I want more than muffled sounds is cabinets opening and closing being a lot quieter unless you are really close by... not only can you just obviously hear someone enter a closet but you can tell where they are when they search drawers

[pale quest]

I read it wrong

[pale quest]

Le randomizarion still needs improvement. It's different from official maps

[olive escarp]

that sounds cool, they should maybe add that to custom game.

it makes the neighbor more unpredictable

[rare lynx]

They should add power tubs option to CG honestly

[pale quest]

Really? So it must have been before halloween alpha. Since on that version we could mix items

[daring gate]

Yes please

[limpid lava]

the kids apparently were also supposed to have upgrades throughout the match, i don't know if they're referring to the quest abilities team work and intuition and whatnot, but either way having both sides constantly upgrading would be cool

[limpid lava]

yep, here's the source https://youtu.be/HqhoRq5ratY

this was before halloween alpha released

[pale quest]

Oh, now I remembered it

The neighbor would have some tasks to do

So he wouldn't be a treat at the start of the match

[limpid lava]

it'd also incentivize blending in with the kids instead of going straight to fighting immediately

i think to balance that out the kids would have secondary objectives, however

[pale quest]

Omg, I really miss how the game looked back then

[pale quest]

So they wouldn't be that strong at the start too

[rare lynx]

"This video is unavailable"

[limpid lava]

the UI in the pre alphas honestly looked a lot nicer to me, it fits with the HN1 aesthetic a lot more

[limpid lava]

i'm able to watch it 🤷

[rare lynx]

Lol I tried again now it let's me watch it

Weird

[limpid lava]

but anyway here's the specific clip i'm talking about with randomized upgrades and kid upgrades

[pale quest]

This would have been so interesting

Getting random abilities

And upgrades

[limpid lava]

i'm imagining an alternate reality where there aren't any set classes and you earn all those abilities while you play and tbh, that sounds... a lot more fun

[pale quest]

What happened after xmas alpha?

[pale quest]

Have done that as well lol

It would

[limpid lava]

there's a developer commentary from early 2020 which shows an inbetween build of xmas alpha and easter alpha, it shows very primitive versions of brave and detective

[pale quest]

I've seen it

It would fit the game so well

[limpid lava]

alex also says that brave is a work in progress name which lol

[pale quest]

Although Idk how the game would be kept alive by only releasing abilities for the kid and neighbor

But yeah, SN was supposted to be simpler

[limpid lava]

i mean they probably would still release more cosmetics and maps and gamemodes

i don't think the flow of SN content updates would change all that much

[pale quest]

The would be the focus

Maybe if easter alpha was done right

I mean, on beta, it would be cool if we could still mix abilities

[limpid lava]

controversial take: neighbor classes and cosmetics for the neighbor were a mistake

[pale quest]

Maybe each class could have abilities we could mix

[pale quest]

For the most part, yes

[limpid lava]

now that we have 5 different classes with different cosmetics, true social deduction is somewhat impossible when playing with friends

there'll always be one guy you can instantly tell is the neighbor based off what class they're playing

[rare lynx]

Wasn't progression system on the current roadmap?

When the roadmap was announced this past Halloween

[limpid lava]

that was very vague though, and we don't know if that means things like rankings or in-match progression

[rare lynx]

Link?

[limpid lava]

give me a sec

[rare lynx]

Alr

[limpid lava]

https://youtu.be/3Z7FnpOzW_g

here

[rare lynx]

Thx

[limpid lava]

these old dev updates honestly are really interesting to watch, they talk about a lot of fun ideas that were either very early concepts for things we see now, or stuff that we just have straight up never gotten

[pale quest]

Yup

I would play SN a lot more nowadays if the game was like that

[limpid lava]

it's sad that most of it won't be the official standard due to all the stuff we have now, but hopefully we can get alternative game modes in the future that have these cut features

[pale quest]

SN 2 is unlikelly, but would be a better option

[limpid lava]

and honestly i think the game should focus more on custom game anyway, quick game sorta sucks and i'd rather they entirely focus their efforts on the playing with friends experience

[pale quest]

Yes

[rare lynx]

Idk... maybe just make the main game sn 2

[pale quest]

Maps 3-5 removed

[limpid lava]

i think i'd be shot if i said that quick game should be removed so custom game can be the primary focus tho

[rare lynx]

Wdym map 3

[limpid lava]

skips galore! oh and also since it's pretty open you can see the neighbor from a good distance away when he isn't even aware of your existence, i don't think it's that big of a problem but i can see why people don't like it

[rare lynx]

Just patch the skips but the map itself is balanced... imo

[daring gate]

dear god don't remove map 3, i need the rocket event-

[limpid lava]

i think there should be a few more rooms in map 3, particularly the level 2 area

[rare lynx]

Fair point

https://tenor.com/view/iryo-i-respect-your-opinion-opinion-gif-25966892

[limpid lava]

the skips definitely contribute to the problem a lot, but even still i feel like map 3 just doesn't have enough content in it? matches kinda breeze by

[rare lynx]

Pfft... want to talk about matches that breeze by...

[limpid lava]

map 4 lol

[rare lynx]

Look now further than map 4

[rare lynx]

Jinx, lol

[limpid lava]

i am well aware of map 4's pacing problems

[rare lynx]

They keep trying to nerf map 4 but its still so speedrunable

[limpid lava]

i found it kinda weird that they changed the level 3 area to a level 1 area for a bit and removed the keycard doors on the greenhouse, what was the point of that

[rare lynx]

Like the level 3 cage doors used to be level 1, and the greenhouse used to be open... they nerfed both yet still could not prevent the speedruns

Honestly what they need to do, for all maps even, is spread out key spawning

[limpid lava]

and the greenhouse still spawned rifles so you could get the rifle within less than a minute of the game starting 💀

[rare lynx]

You should not be able to get 3 keys in one room

[daring gate]

Yes

[rare lynx]

I remebr that lmao

As bagger I found 2 keys and the rifle once at the greenhouse and took all of them

[limpid lava]

map 4 would be good if they just added more stuff to it

[rare lynx]

Bigger basement

[limpid lava]

the level 2 area being a grand total of 3 rooms is 💀

[rare lynx]

Level 3 is only 3 rooms too

[limpid lava]

yeah though you could count it as 4 due to the gate separating them most of the time

actually i think it's incredibly funny that you can get permanently softlocked if the neighbor traps you in a side of the level 3 area that doesn't have the keycard door opened

[daring gate]

There should be a way out of there.

[rare lynx]

No, 3... without the gate separation its 2

[daring gate]

Perhaps a lift or something

[limpid lava]

there's 2 rooms and a hallway that has a gate in the middle of it, its at the minimum 3

[rare lynx]

Inventor did that to me once lmao thankfully I was with someone that had a spare level 3 card though

[limpid lava]

and if we don't count hallways as rooms then map 1 would be incredibly small

[limpid lava]

like cmon bro how is this 2 rooms

[rare lynx]

Ooooh... your right your right

Its 2 sections though

[limpid lava]

yeah 2 sections, though that's besides the point

either way still incredibly small

also side discussion, didn't you say that you believe the lighting was changed with xmas 2022 because adam said it on a livestream? and i believe you said that was on map 4, which had a weather change between halloween and this update, but the actual lighting engine is the same

cuz i mean yeah the skybox is different and all but im pretty sure the other maps are exactly the same

and if that's what you meant then my fault for misunderstanding

[rare lynx]

Mhm!

Hmmm

Maybe it is just map 4 then?

Ik for sure, 100% positive Adam did say it on stream though

That they did tweak the lighting

Now for all maps I'm not sure

The mad eye yokai

[limpid lava]

map 4 and level editor afaik

map 1, 2, and 3 are the same and im not sure about map 5

[cunning spire]

@compact acorn

user is using alts to add random people

[compact acorn]

maybe i can help?

[olive escarp]

just block them

maybe turn off server dms

what

[pale quest]

SN hacker who spreads fake information about Hello Neighbor games

[compact acorn]

Sorry guys, I was hoping to the end that it wasn't a hacked account

[pale quest]

Well, I accidently called him, I'm on cellphone so I miss clicked the buttons and he blocked me

[pale quest]

Yup, he said to me he was hacked

[wispy karma]

That's why we ask people to block and not open links, another lost account

[distant sinew]

Yeah just a heads-up CC is doing this "hugs 🤗" thing now so beware if you see other people doing it.

[pale quest]

Nowadays we always need to beware of these links so we don't get hacked

[copper escarp]

He won't stop messaging me with the hugs

It is annoying tbh

[pseudo kayak]

why secret neighbor disappeared from ps4

Why is Secret Neighbor no longer on PS4?

[wide mirage]

it probs is

[cunning spire]

Just disable friend requests and DMS

[pale quest]

Morning, everyone!!

[buoyant siren]

Morning

[copper escarp]

It wasn't this account

It was my other account I normally use often

[pale quest]

It was hacked?

@copper escarp

[bitter ocean]

Guys

You have a mission

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHLuN_JL66bD8fdJWmQ-gNw/community?lb=UgkxWj5jecbsXQeNPJS45HesezQcOAQGtSws

Vote now. The future of SN depends on this. 😉

[pine lichen]

oh wow detective is getting a buff??

[copper escarp]

brave shoulf get a rework

[limpid lava]

a perfectly average SN screenshot

[limpid lava]

but anyway, i think detective deserves the rework since intuition is kind of a useless ability

[feral sorrel]

oh yeah

has anyone notice like a lighting bug on map 5 in the level 2 area in the daytime lighting?

[bitter ocean]

I'm surprised so far by the poll results

I thought Brave was going to win by a landslide

Leader's already in a pretty good spot imo so I left her out.

[copper escarp]

brave is always in some controversy

some people say she is too op some people say she is too bad

[limpid lava]

i would have voted leader if she was there tbh, right now i think she's a tad too OP for her own good

[bitter ocean]

Interesting...not what I expected.

[bitter ocean]

I personally have mixed feelings about Brave

[copper escarp]

make the bagger unlock the fifth slot

[bitter ocean]

......

[late lantern]

Ok so continuing what I was saying in #hello-neighbor

I think Detective needs like, some sort of self defense ability. Nothing too crazy but maybe something like he can use his cameras flash to temporarily blind the neighbor, allowing him to get away

[bitter ocean]

They could just carry all of the keys. That would be terrifying to play against hahahaha

[copper escarp]

as a bagger main i agree and i support that idea

[copper escarp]

good idea

[late lantern]

There's two types of people who play bagger

People who have no idea what they're doing and then the absolute gods at the game

[pine lichen]

damn 5 keys in one bag

[bitter ocean]

That would be cool. I forgot he's got that old school polaroid which naturally had a flash built in irl.

[feral sorrel]

depending on what spot you are on this specific kiosk the shadows would pop in & out

[limpid lava]

personally i think the stun resistance ability makes her a bit too hard to counter, a class that has such supportive utility shouldn't have built-in self sustain to prevent herself from being targeted imo

[copper escarp]

bagger is like the soldier from tf2

[feral sorrel]

(i was on third person so you could have a better look)

[glacial jungle]

5 keys it would be abused
unless the neighbor get the bagger and all keys drop

[limpid lava]

though perhaps that's an unpopular take

[pine lichen]

im exactly that one person

[bitter ocean]

When you play Samuel, do you try to wear down the kids with hit or mainly just go for grabs?

[copper escarp]

also one thing i want in sn is for less items to spawn. because if you look at a random drawer in the house there are a million items on it, including a lot of glue

[feral sorrel]

i think a nice rework would be to tie stun resistance with inspiration, so when she actually uses inspiration she would get that halved stun time

[velvet hedge]

the game literally just started and everyone except one random kid went missing before the neighbor could even transform

oh and this happens too!

[late lantern]

I think every kid class needs at least a tinyyy rework, even inventor I feel should be a little tweaked

[velvet hedge]

i havent played sn for a month so wow awesome

[bitter ocean]

https://tenor.com/view/which-one-gif-18461773

[limpid lava]

depends on the class i'm playing, if i'm playing ghost or guest i'll usually go for grabs

but playing scary, clown, or butcher? i focus mainly on hits and knocking down players since they have the aggressive abilities or defensive utility to back it up

[pine lichen]

both to be honest

[feral sorrel]

and obv with a longer cooldown so you couldnt just spam inspiration whenever the cooldown is done

[late lantern]

My only problem with Inventor is that he can craft both the flashlight helmet AND the goggles for the exact same amount of gears which feels almost pointless

[bitter ocean]

I think that's supposed to happen.

[feral sorrel]

also whats with the headbobbing, i literally had to turn down my headbob intensity all the way down because i was getting so disorientated when jumping as neighbor

[velvet hedge]

no because i technically got "caught"(i didnt but the game glitched and made everyone missing)

[limpid lava]

no i don't think people are supposed to randomly die without being grabbed or being knocked down

[velvet hedge]

so i should be able to leave but im not

[late lantern]

I guess it's just preference as to which you want to use but one gives you like 2 free hits and the light where the other just gives you night vision

[bitter ocean]

Oh, I meant that menu screen

[pine lichen]

i found out thats a bug since sometimes your head bob sensitivity goes up to 100

[feral sorrel]

it isnt supposed to happen, and i had that happen to me multiple times at the start of a game and i couldnt leave

[bitter ocean]

the everyone missing before a transform is complete though is not supposed to happen.

[limpid lava]

night vision goggles hardly have any value tbh, the game's bright enough for the actual night vision part to not be much of a buff, and your field of view is overall decreased when wearing them

[bitter ocean]

I see what you mean now.

[pine lichen]

goggles arent very good

since it basically does nothing

[limpid lava]

flashlight pan is overall the better option

[feral sorrel]

the flashlight saucepan just completely beats the nvgs

[pine lichen]

highly agree

[feral sorrel]

also the metal detector imo is pretty useless

[bitter ocean]

They help with those dealing with slight colorblindness, like my friend Dr. Mork.

[copper escarp]

the night vision goggles should make you be able to see through clowns smoke

[pine lichen]

hmm it goes through walls tho

[feral sorrel]

it's faster to just manually search drawers for gears, keycards, and keys

[pine lichen]

true

[limpid lava]

ah, that's understandable

though to me i don't get much use out of them, especially with the lighting changes with the most recent halloween update

[pine lichen]

they should add a colorblind setting

[feral sorrel]

yeah the lighting is slightly brighter than what it was before

[late lantern]

i feel like the metal detector would work so much better if it had like, a larger range and it didn't slow you down when you use it

[limpid lava]

spamming the jump button:

[late lantern]

true

[feral sorrel]

no like, specifically while jumping it feels like i have 100% headbob

[pine lichen]

i think thats normal

or im tripping

[feral sorrel]

ik sometimes when making snowballs it screws with your headbob until you make another snowball

[bitter ocean]

That I can understand too. Though when it's pitch black like in map 3, it can be helpful. Once you're inside the house I tend to lose them.

[limpid lava]

yeah it does a little bounce regardless of your headbob, i believe it's intentional but i don't think it looks good

fairly distracting to me

[bitter ocean]

Alright guys, I'm heading out to edit again. See you all soon.

Fun chat!

[limpid lava]

cya

[bitter ocean]

and thank you for voting

[pine lichen]

see you soon!

[late lantern]

Seeya

[feral sorrel]

also can anyone agree that the saucepan buff was dumb

[limpid lava]

yeah

butcher's hook is already ez to avoid

[pine lichen]

well its not if the neighbor or you have a high ping

[limpid lava]

i've hardly ever had latency get me hooked

[feral sorrel]

also the hook is just hard to aim imo, i cant tell if im close enough to a kid to hook them or im too close to a drawer or cabinet or closet (especially on map 2) to accidentally hook that instead

[limpid lava]

i think that's also the fault of the hook's direction being decided on frame 1 of pressing the button instead of when the hook leaves his hand

[pine lichen]

i cant say how much i have been caught with that thing

way too much and i blame latency for it

[limpid lava]

eh, regardless sauce pans are way too common for that to be a justified buff imo

[pine lichen]

i always carry an saucepan for now

and with bagger you can abuse that

[feral sorrel]

i think butcher's hook should just be faster when being used and when pressing q to activate the hook it should only equip the hook like the beartrap and then you could decide to aim and throw your hook or save it for a better time

[pine lichen]

hmm wait does the butcher take your saucepan off?

[limpid lava]

if you can get an inventor to give you a flashlight pan and you have a hammer, you can practically keep that for the rest of the game

[pine lichen]

yea thats what i mean by abuse

[limpid lava]

also yeah saucepan blocks the first hook, after that it falls off and breaks i believe

[feral sorrel]

it should also highlight the closest kid or anything that's interactable with the hook with red and if you're on something that can be interacted with the hook with your crosshair then it would highlight it with white

[pine lichen]

i think you can hold the hook by holding q

[feral sorrel]

no it just automatically throws it

[limpid lava]

would be nice if they went the guest route and have hooking kids and hooking items be separate binds

[feral sorrel]

that would be a nice change tbh

[late lantern]

I feel like they should just have it so there's like, item tiers

Common items that are just like, nothing really useful
Uncommon items like hammers, glue jars, flashlights, etc.
Then have rare items like pots, and maybe even the nvgs

It's kinda how it is now but like

[limpid lava]

i'd just like more practical items tbh, power milk, candy bars and saucepans are getting boring

[late lantern]

More balanced I guess

[feral sorrel]

i think speedrunner bars, power milk, and saucepans should spawn less so its like a rare item

[late lantern]

Yeah

That's what I mean

[limpid lava]

power milk provides way too much value for how common it is

if your team can coordinate with it you can shut down any neighbor within the span of a couple seconds

[feral sorrel]

so when you do find one it isnt just "oh when i see the neighbor i can just use this to escape/kill him" it becomes a more of either a win when used at a perfect moment or a loss if used at a bad time

[late lantern]

They should add the Invis soda at some point too

Maybe it wouldn't make you invisible but it could like, make you slightly transparent

That way you can hide easier

But are still findable

[pine lichen]

this would be so overpowered if used correctly

[feral sorrel]

eh i dont like the idea of invis soda being an actual consumable but ig its cool

[limpid lava]

or it could give you some kind of temporary defensive buff, like you take no damage but still can get stunned

[late lantern]

oh yeah

that'd be cool

[limpid lava]

neighbor could use it to clutch survive a rifle shot, or you could survive longer in a clown's smoke bomb and save your other teammates

but it wouldn't have the same value as a saucepan does in chase since you still get stunned

[late lantern]

the neighbor watching in horror as the bagger with a powermilk and 3 invis-sodas starts walking towards him

[pine lichen]

if bagger has 4 slots and one milk the neighbor is basically dead

[limpid lava]

you can entirely avoid that situation with ghost and guest tho...

[late lantern]

true

[limpid lava]

the bagger screaming in agony as the guest uses scaring croak and steals all of his invis-sodas

[late lantern]

I forgot those are the only 2 neighbor classes anybody use anymore lol

[feral sorrel]

reminds me of one time in map 2 i was playing against a butcher and he was camping in the basement, i think i was playing inventor at the time because i was running around looking for gears, and he just decided to quit the match

[pine lichen]

aight guys im gonna go sleep see yall tomorrow

[feral sorrel]

i had the last 2 keys with me so i just unlocked the basement

[limpid lava]

butcher and guest are the most common neighbors i see in QG

if you see a scary neighbor he's either a fresh install or a 1K hour tryhard, no inbetween

[late lantern]

true

[feral sorrel]

and since i was the last person alive i get field promoted

[limpid lava]

i've had several matches where i 1v1 a scary neighbor camping the basement and winning

its pretty funny

[late lantern]

i remember miserably missing a rifle shot on a neighbor camping the door

[limpid lava]

place your keys in a room to the side, grab a box and some milk, then go to town

[feral sorrel]

also if you're playing as inventor with some friends in quick game or custom game then you would just

never see a inventor in quick game that helps his team

most of inventors are either new players who dont understand his abilities or play selfishly and craft everything for themselves

[limpid lava]

the 15 hour clown player when he sees an inventor, brave, and scout with flashlight pans and power milk heading towards his location

[late lantern]

i have never seen an inventor actually help their team in QG

it's always just them with the loot

i would love to see like, actual organized SN gameplay

where people actually help each other

[limpid lava]

i will only give stuff to my quick game teammates if they prove themselves to not be a complete idiot first

[late lantern]

i always forget too

[limpid lava]

the neighbor literally never wins when that happens

[late lantern]

genuinely

[limpid lava]

playing in a lobby with players who all had 1K hours or higher humbled me like nothing ever could

[feral sorrel]

i think bagger could be a competent team player if you hand them like a key that you cant pickup cause you either have 2 keys or you have a rifle and a key with you

[late lantern]

bagger is unironically one of the best classes just because he can carry more than 2 things

[limpid lava]

bagger is a top 3 class easy

[late lantern]

that 3rd and 4th slot can be a complete game changer if the player actually utilizes it

[limpid lava]

i think leader and inventor are slightly more useful if they actually coordinate with the team tho

and scout is just annoying

[late lantern]

scout is probably like

4th

[feral sorrel]

bagger can also make the neighbor catch him to slow him down if he's not scary neighbor

[late lantern]

maybe

[feral sorrel]

that way the other kids can hit the neighbor easier

[late lantern]

that too

and the fact he just

cannot die from fall damage

[limpid lava]

you mean butcher? the only thing that counters that ability is butcher's hook

scary neighbor has rage yeah but he still moves at a snail's pace

[feral sorrel]

true

[late lantern]

unless you're actively trying to do it ofc

also isn't butcher already slower

[limpid lava]

the slow down ability doesn't activate if the bagger gets hooked lmao

it just goes at normal speed like every other kid class

[late lantern]

yeah i assumed

[feral sorrel]

i think bagger just makes getting down from high places alot safer if he isnt the neighbor

[late lantern]

I just mean isn't he slower moving in general

less speed more stamina

[limpid lava]

he's very slightly slower, hardly notable though

[late lantern]

ah

i haven't played QG in a while

mainly been playing with friends

[feral sorrel]

since he can basically survive any height he can jump down and the other kids can follow and bagger can just revive them

[limpid lava]

it'll make some parkour a bit harder but in most cases butcher can traverse just fine

[feral sorrel]

butcher cant activate moving platforms or moving stairs which sucks

he used to ik but like

they removed that for some reason

[limpid lava]

he used to be able to do that, then they removed it in halloween i think

[feral sorrel]

it was a dumb change imo

[limpid lava]

yea

[late lantern]

the best thing with butcher though

is what i like to call kid fishing

[feral sorrel]

dude butcher should get a fisherman outfit sometime

[late lantern]

which is hooking a kid from behind a gate then shutting it as you grab them

[limpid lava]

pov: you are playing butcher on map 3 or 5 (this will be the easiest win of your entire life)

[late lantern]

hn2 beta reference

[limpid lava]

every half competent butcher player knows this trick nowadays, don't get why people haven't wisened up to it

[feral sorrel]

map 3 can be horrifying when going against a guest player who knows how to play the game very well

[limpid lava]

literally just leave the room

[feral sorrel]

the better tactic is to just leave the premises

leaving the property always helps

[limpid lava]

once you start learning to maneuver around walls and abusing hitboxes the guest can become an absolute menace

its genuinely an optimal strategy to walk right into someone while you're grabbing a kid since the hitbox is so bad that the item they'll throw will just pass through you

[feral sorrel]

i just think map 5 is perfect for butcher because of the low ground and abusable spots to hook from

and even then map 5 is hot garbo

[limpid lava]

true

map 5 either is super boring and takes too long or it ends instantly

there is no fun allowed

[feral sorrel]

i actually had 2 matches in map 5 where i didnt need to unlock the level 4 area

like i didnt need to go to that area specifically

because rng on map 5 just happen to like me for some reason

[limpid lava]

i've had the round timer go to less than 2 minutes on multiple occasions

genuinely a slog to play

[late lantern]

i feel like when people see the neighbor something triggers in their brain and they're just like

"i NEED to kill him"

[feral sorrel]

hey

how would the police know if you mutilated his corpse with cardboard boxes and milk

[limpid lava]

it's like that one image of average iq

new players: i need to run away from the neighbor because i will die if i stay here
average players: i need to kill the neighbor because kids are more powerful and i can easily solo him
actually good players: i need to run away from the neighbor because i will die if i stay here

though that's usually a result of your teammates being idiots and not searching for keys while you're fighting him

[feral sorrel]

i think the best optimal strategy for dealing with fights is to take it from alex ceo's mouth

just run

fighting the neighbor if he's goated at the game would only waste time

[limpid lava]

unless you're dealing with a guy who's camping the basement fighting him is a complete waste of time, especially if he's a good scary neighbor

[limpid lava]

yeah you would know from all the times i've managed 4v1s because everyone in our group is insistent on trying to kill me

[feral sorrel]

and i made that same group make the timer tick down to 6 minutes i think

[limpid lava]

we're the only 2 who catch consistent neighbor wins lol..

[feral sorrel]

:D

[limpid lava]

(this is probably a result of us both being losers and playing SN for over 1K hours)

[feral sorrel]

nah im prolly the only loser pulling in over 2k hours

im actually getting too close for comfort to pull in 3k hours

[limpid lava]

and i still catch more neighbor wins than you with a thousand less hours on the game lol

i am built different,

[limpid lava]

also i barely spend time on the level editor so that's probably another reason behind it

[feral sorrel]

i just afk in LE alot so

thats prolly the reason why i got so many hours

[limpid lava]

just leave it open 24/7 so you can get 255 hours in the last 2 weeks

[feral sorrel]

nah its like open LE and just watch youtube videos for a while and forget what i wanted to do and just close sn

my brain is hotwired to wanting to do stuff in LE and just end up not doing them

[limpid lava]

adhd brain is sitting in the level editor for 2 and a half hours and only getting progress on 3 rooms

[feral sorrel]

and when i do get motivation to make an LE map i just give up not even halfway

because either the layout sucks or i just dont like it anymore

[limpid lava]

i just get really self conscious about the decorating and having a "unique" map

so that leads me to sitting around doing nothing because i don't wanna make a generic map but also too judgmental of any attempts to make something interesting

[feral sorrel]

its hard making LE maps that you end up liking

cause eventually i will just no longer like the maps i make

[limpid lava]

the only thing i've made i'm somewhat proud of is luigi's mansion and that's only because i beat everyone else to the punch in making that

[feral sorrel]

one of my maps that i actually loved making and updating is bugged now

the item pickups just dont work properly half of the time

[limpid lava]

moral of the story: perfectionism sucks and i hate it and it prevents me from accomplishing things

[tender fulcrum]

[hardy mist]

is someone playing sn?

[agile compass]

😭

[pale quest]

48, actually

[hardy mist]

well

there was a steam maintenance

[agile compass]

48 is still terrible ;sob:

😭

[hardy mist]

it is

I played sn with xbox game pass

and bought it today

it's so sad

[agile compass]

the game has always done poorly in player count but it is super bad now

[limpid lava]

300 players is considered higher than average numbers for this game and that's really saddening

[hardy mist]

it's actually a good game tho

:C

[agile compass]

sometimes but it suffers a massive problem

repetitive gameplay

[limpid lava]

debatable, but i've talked about this game's problems enough already

i could go on and on about the repetitive gameplay, flawed voice chat system, balancing, ethics about paid cosmetics in a paid game, problems with the level editor, the teamers and script kiddies you see in quick game, but i've done that a lot and i don't need to do all that again

not rn anyway

[hardy mist]

wnere did u see this?

where*

[agile compass]

steamdb

it shows players for steam only

but all platforms have simlar amounts anyways

[pale quest]

https://steamdb.info/app/859570/history/

[hardy mist]

okeoke

thx u

:D

[pale quest]

Np

I had it saved on my Google Chrome

[hardy mist]

:c

[agile compass]

the next update is so far away . .

[late vigil]

when is it?

[rare lynx]

I personally voted for Brave rework on the poles

Though I do agree with the detective reworks

I think what he really needs is some type of detective ability that allows him to gather information about the neighbor; like a real detective would do

Maybe ge can find information about the neighbors whereabouts

Or info on who the kid in disguise might be

[agile compass]

March probably 😠

[rare bison]

Who wants to play Granny's Secret Neighbor :>

[mint ibex]

scout rework/ new ability is needed

[mint ibex]

prolly in april/may

[glad ether]

Severs down?

[jovial ginkgo]

Dont know

[glad ether]

Have you tried to play a game?

[jovial ginkgo]

yes

[glad ether]

Are you able to play?

[jovial ginkgo]

yeah

[muted shuttle]

hello everyone

[dusty wedge]

I mean yeah but how would that work anyway? In my personal opinion, the neighbor's whereabouts is kind of useless. And with a neighbor in disguise, it's pretty easy to figure out if they're disguised or not as well as who the neighbor is in general without an ability. It sounds just as useless as the key highlight ability. I think it will be a defense ability if anything (since he has none) or maybe he gets a small speed boost after finding a photo key (since he is a speed runner character). I think completely replacing the Detective key highlight ability (since it's useless) with a camera that flashes and stuns the neighbor would be perfect honestly. It would be powerful but can only activate after finding 3 photo keys which means it can only be used 1-2 times in the average game. Maybe make it to where it only does effect if the neighbor is looking directly at you to balance it out a bit.

[dusty wedge]

Also, his ability should be something he can use pretty quickly since he is a fast character in general and can solo games in less than 5 minutes. I hope the new ability/abilities does not interfere with that. I think he is already op when it comes to speed running and don't think the key photos should be touched. However, his key highlight ability is completely useless (except for new players maybe) and I absolutely think it should be replaced by something more useful, primarily a defense against the neighbor. Finding out where the neighbor is and who he is already gets revealed throughout the match and forcing Detective to stray from his priority, which is finding keys asap = slowing him down and giving no reason to play as him.

Although I agree since Detective is called detective, you would expect some kind of detective work against the neighbor, at the end of the day however, it's pretty pointless since his character revolves around finding keys quickly. That's why he gets a photo for keys to unlock the basement (the point and goal as kid for every match) and not a photo of where the neighbor is standing (figuring out who the neighbor is is just a recommended side goal you usually figure out effortlessly through a match).

[dusty wedge]

I never did see Brave as the type of character to desperately need a rework. I'm happy that they nerfed the bat spam forcing players to actually time it. I think if brave got a rework, they might just focus on making her noob friendly. In fact, most of the characters are not very noob friendly, relying on tough aiming for survival is not a great way to start. I'd have to say, Bagger and Leader are perfectly balanced in my opinion, maybe make inspiration take a bit longer to activate but that could just be a quick nerf. As far as actual reworks go, I think the rest of the classes need them. I'm sure neighbors might end up getting reworks too eventually (we don't want kids to be too powerful) but I won't think that far yet.

[cunning spire]

Imagine detective getting the speed runner character skin besides brave

[dusty wedge]

I wouldn't be surprised honestly.

[cunning spire]

Yes, it would kind of fit in a way

[cunning spire]

I feel like scout is fine

Well it's kinda debatable tbh it's fun playing as her but playing against her when the player is good is a living nightmare

[solid monolith]

Which update added the hg/hn2 alpha textures?

[dusty wedge]

She is its just that it's too easy to miss with her nuts, and she can do absolutely nothing without nuts. It's not good to have to rely on such precise aiming as your only means of survival.

Maybe increase nuts or make nuts more accessible and reloadable during a neighbor war, or just give her a completely new ability.

I don't think it is absolutely essential that she gets a rework, however I do think it would be nice to get a rework for her if possible.

[cunning spire]

Agreed

[sour dew]

Why are there no guest neighbor things to customise it

[dusty wedge]

Because he was just released?

And he has an outfit.

He'll get more soon.

[lucid peak]

yo guys i am new to the game i am pc and i will like to play with my buddy who is ps4 how can i do

[pale quest]

Hey! It's not possible

!sncrossplay

[fierce stag]

Hello!
Please see below for the currently available crossplay options for Secret Neighbor.
Secret Neighbor current crossplay options :
• Microsoft Store + Xbox: crossplay compatible
• Playstation + Switch: crossplay compatible
• Steam | iOS : no crossplay
For more information on Secret Neighbor such as platform availability, feel free to check out https://www.secretneighbor.com/

[pale quest]

PS just have crossplay with switch

[rare lynx]

Bro wrote a whole essay 💀

But I see your point

And I agree

[rare lynx]

Now I agree with every single thing you wrote in this. Leader and bagger (and inventor) are fine. Brave needs rework but I'm not sure what. Scout should get a rework next after detective. She is useless if there aren't nur bags anywhere

Also I think all neighbors need a stamina buff

[dusty wedge]

Why did they nerf it to begin with lol

[rare lynx]

You can loose stamina so easily now, just by missing grabs, using neat hook as butcher. Worst part is butcher can't even use his hook on low stamina!

[rare lynx]

Plus they already nerfed him with not catching kids with pots

[dusty wedge]

It completely contradicts the point of butcher being able to run longer, now he can't even use his hook.

[dusty wedge]

Exactly

I hate it

[rare lynx]

Imo, all neighbors should be able to run an extra 5 seconds than they already can without using stamina, they should loose way less stamina from grab misses, or not loose any at all

And butcher needs a buff

[rare lynx]

His hook should not take stamina

[dusty wedge]

It should just go back to the way it was originally at least

[rare lynx]

Definitely

Scout is bad without nuts available

[rare lynx]

Yeah

[dusty wedge]

Yes, grabbing and abilities should not use up stamina, neighbors already have little stamina to begin with

now a nerf? Like what?

[rare lynx]

Kids should never be more powerful than the neighbor alone

In groups they are supposed to be slightly more powerful

[dusty wedge]

Inventor is a god now, more powerful than every neighbor, and they mentioned adding something to use against the guests stun for Inventor too...

[rare lynx]

He's not more powerful, but if there is double investor than yes

[dusty wedge]

I'm not saying he needs to be nerfed, neighbors just need a buff

[rare lynx]

I hope they do more of those polls. This time for the neighbors and what the neighbors need

I'll be voting for stamina buff

[dusty wedge]

Same

[rare lynx]

Its great to see them actively in the community asking for feedback

[tired depot]

why cant i play sn?

[olive escarp]

i can take down a group full of tryhards as scary neighbor most of the time, but it just isn't fair for new people.

i feel like everytime you play a round as neighbor you need to go full sweat mode.

[cunning spire]

Honestly a rework would make me consider replaying the game again

[olive escarp]

i would welcome something new to the gameplay too.

[cunning spire]

I like the thought of people playing leader more or bagger

[olive escarp]

that's why i also want them to add many more custom game options to spice up the gameplay.

[cunning spire]

Yes

[boreal bay]

Still fine with the missing grabs thing, but I agree that using abilities like the hook should not cost stamina

[cunning spire]

It's been almost 5 for me and I'm honestly bored of it

[limpid lava]

i still get some mileage out of it since i've taken quite a few breaks in the past

[cunning spire]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/782293574561038366/1067876210601893968/0001-0043.mp4

Animation waffle boi is working on!!!

[boreal bay]

okay that's pretty great

[short spire]

should've sent it in #hello-neighbor not #secret-neighbor bc i'm not using SN assets for this

[cunning spire]

True but I mainly sent it here for afro but he's offline

[grand monolith]

https://tenor.com/view/oh-this-is-beautiful-this-is-beautiful-gif-20984698

i love this

[civic tusk]

Guys, is there a polls channel where we can vote for rework?

[cunning spire]

It's on YouTube

[rare lynx]

Looking smooth waffle boi

[glossy venture]

Anyone want to do rocket event or snow thief with me

Ping me if so

[hardy mist]

a friend leave from the server

and now cant play beacause of he has to play with leavers

:C

[foggy rivet]

You get penalised for leaving game early

So he has to play other leavers

I love you game, play it daily. Just wish we could earn more tokens in a day

[agile compass]

Shut up.

Don't worry I wasn't saying it any of yall someone was spamming but there messages are gone now

[barren rapids]

lmao

Almost thought you were replying to the other guy. it would be pretty hypocritical since your name is SN all day all night

[copper escarp]

2

[upbeat veldt]

secret neighbor 14 is coming out in 3070

its set to relesase in oct 3070

[foggy rivet]

Can somebody help me. I have a daily token task. Shoot neighbour 12 times with slingshot. I hit neighbour with slingshot nuts but it still says 0 out of 12. Is this a glitch or am I doing something wrong?

[olive escarp]

might be a bug

maybe restart the game

[jolly mirage]

hi i have a problem in secret neighbor with mic i cant talk with my friends or hear them

it's on

[heady gazelle]

?!

[olive escarp]

do you have voice chat on?

look in the settings

[jolly mirage]

yes

[daring gate]

My personal experience with that quest is that you can't do it too quickly in a row. you have to spread out your shots to count for some reason.

[pulsar crater]

https://tenor.com/view/hello-chat-roblox-falling-goodbye-chat-top-text-gif-21349648

[rare lynx]

Remember when we would get custom game modes? 🥹

As well as a way to edit them

[hexed yoke]

One message removed from a suspended account.

[olive escarp]

i think that will be included in level editor+

[boreal bay]

I wish they would just confirm if game editor has been scrapped or not

[pulsar crater]

Guys i just saw a man with vr headset accessory for a brave, how do i get it

[civic tusk]

Im not sure what skin are you talking about, but i guess you just wait for it to appear in the shop and buy it. I think its a tickets thing

[pulsar crater]

Idk probably, but thanks anyway

In my opinion u need to just wishlist the hn vr or something

Idk i didnt try it yet

[rare lynx]

Pyromancer Neighbor my beloved 😔

[boreal bay]

I think they're talking about the ghost hunter brave costume

[feral sorrel]

isnt that the halloween skin for ghost?

[boreal bay]

wait how did I never notice that silhouette was just ghost's genie costume

still doesn't explain why he's holding a flame though

[swift nacelle]

Red herring probably

[worn lintel]

It’s a Halloween skin

[limpid lava]

yep that's exactly what it is lol

[solar venture]

these skins in SN would be cool

I didn't put Ivan's cause his is just one of default sn skins

[feral sorrel]

i still want ivan's

but yeah i already suggested the hello engineer outfits should be a bonus in sn for buying the game

[solar venture]

alright here's Ivan

don't look into his eyes

[rare lynx]

Not exactly

It was based of of it which is apparent

Except for the fire hand

[boreal bay]

seems the same to me

[rare lynx]

Yes but not the same because of the fire hand

[limpid lava]

yeah but that's still the same skin it just has an extra addition

[eager mason]

Anyone wanna join xbox gamer tag weirdbanana#5486

[rare lynx]

What I think happened was they scrapped the Pyromancer but decided to use part of his model as a costume for ghost

[dusty wedge]

Or maybe they only scrapped the hand. Or it was just edited in to draw away suspicion, make you think it was something besides the ghost.

[rare lynx]

[dusty wedge]

I doubt it was originally a Pyromancer, scrapping it would of been under too short notice, and why would they tease it if they weren't sure if they'd change it or not?

Didn't they remove the hook off the snow thief butcher silhouette?

It doesn't have to be fire either.

Why would a ghost be able to utilize fire?

He is still missing legs in the silhouette which means it's still ghost, but instead of using his default, they used the genie skin + added a fire affect (which looks edited) to draw away suspicion so it wasn't obvious and kept you guessing.

This whole scenario is similar to how they removed the hook (his key identifiable trait) off of the snow thief silhouette; same scenario, to keep you guessing.

[rare lynx]

I think yr'oue overthinking but ok

[eager mason]

Anyone wanna join my secret neighbor game gamer tag weirdbanana#5486

[dusty wedge]

Maybe, but it makes sense.

[rare lynx]

Eh

[dusty wedge]

I just gave like 3 evidence points.

[rare lynx]

I still stand by that they did come up with an idea for a Pyromancer neighbor that did have fire ability

[limpid lava]

it's really just semantics at this point

[heady gazelle]

peen

[limpid lava]

agreeable

[heady gazelle]

I made like an edit but idk what channel I send it in 🥹

[rare lynx]

Hn memes?

[heady gazelle]

It’s not a meme

[rare lynx]

Well what is it

[heady gazelle]

an edit

[rare lynx]

Secret neighbor or hello neighbor

[heady gazelle]

Secret neighbor

[rare lynx]

Then here ig

[heady gazelle]

😢

Okay

[dusty wedge]

Why a pyromancer though?

of all things?

[rare lynx]

Idk.. maybe because that's what they said he would be

[dusty wedge]

that was a guess

By Adam

He wouldn't deliberately give it away if he knew

[rare lynx]

Adam doesn't make arbitrary guesses in SN video, obviously it means the dev team told him about what the neighbor class might be

[dusty wedge]

He wouldn't spoil it lol

[rare lynx]

Ik

[dusty wedge]

otherwise there is no point of a silhouette

[rare lynx]

What is your point

[rare lynx]

(And don't type an essay, lol)

[dusty wedge]

The point is obvious, if he knew, he would try to avoid giving it away. Which means the pyromancer guess would be the first thing to go off the list.

It was supposed to be a surprise and he literally said "I don't want to spoil anything but"

[rare lynx]

Yeah, he didn't give it away

[dusty wedge]

Exactly so why would you think it's a pyromancer?

[rare lynx]

https://tenor.com/view/sushichaeng-chips-eating-nom-crisps-gif-22496360

[rare lynx]

Reeeeeeee!

[dusty wedge]

they never said that

[rare lynx]

"Maybe he'll be some type of Pyromancer"

[dusty wedge]

And?

[rare lynx]

Obviously Adam was trying to hint at it

[dusty wedge]

it's his opinion

[rare lynx]

https://tenor.com/view/triggered-gif-18447616

Bro...

[dusty wedge]

the only reason he would know what it is is if they told him for the sole purpose of making sure he doesn't spoil it. He's just the video producer.

[bitter ocean]

Yeah that was a red herring.

I try not to spoil things in videos.

[rare lynx]

The man himself!

||hi||

[dusty wedge]

So it was originally a pyromancer?

[bitter ocean]

You mean back when we were showing off silhouettes of the ghost neighbor?

[dusty wedge]

Yes

[bitter ocean]

Never was 😉

[dusty wedge]

See

[bitter ocean]

Though it would be cool

[rare lynx]

:o

[bitter ocean]

A fire-wielding neighbor.

[rare lynx]

Yeah it would

[dusty wedge]

Was the fire just to throw us off?

[rare lynx]

I guess

[dusty wedge]

Yes

obviously

[rare lynx]

Was anything else from the roadmap ment to throw us off Adam?

[rotund ice]

Hello Adam

[limpid lava]

i mean they weren't really being secretive about much else, would be kinda weird to lie about that

[rare lynx]

Do you remember when map 5 was released?

Remember they said look out for someone in the neighborhood

Lurking

Was that meant to throw us off

[limpid lava]

that was referring to mith event, that was when trophies were added

[rare lynx]

Because we never found anyone

[rare lynx]

Oooooooooh

[dusty wedge]

ugh not this theory again