hn3-discussion

[near meadow]

Placed

At

Mr petersons house

As if they’re tied to each other. Subtle foreshadowing

[sturdy forge]

It's fun getting a peak behind a game

That's still in dev

One of my favorite places to look up video games on is artstation

[wraith tundra]

Do we know if this is/what remains of Mr Peterson's house? Looks similar.

[near hawk]

It is

[celest plank]

it is

[wraith tundra]

Thought so.

[wild girder]

How?

[near meadow]

That sign is the only odd one signifying some sort a fake

and since the original sign was most likely stolen and replaced with this fake sign

[untold grotto]

no i think like

[near meadow]

Its weird how this "fake guest sign" is specifically at the neighbors house

And thats it

no other version

its ONLY at the neighbors house

[untold grotto]

its like the remaining part of the stolen cutout

[near meadow]

I guess you can say that but you see where im getting at no?

[untold grotto]

yea

[near meadow]

Environmental storytelling is gonna be heavily used is this game and this counts

[wild girder]

Oh my lord. One of my Tomodachi Life Miis cares more about Signed than his literal granddaughter. XD

[quartz anchor]

Nikita i'm begging you keep the game going in this direction

(also it would be nice to see npc roaming around the map and interacting with each other like in prototypes)
Pre Alpha seems to have lack that.

[fallow tide]

Different interpretations of the Guest from HN3

[untold grotto]

these letters are runes

[tall sorrel]

Forwarded something about the runes

a theory Kryptqn has

[untold grotto]

town legend is what town worshipped back then
mascot is based on that town legend
and "creepypasta" is just forest dweller manipulating vandals to him being the guest

[tall sorrel]

based off the irl symbols (Elder Futhark if you wanna look it up)

[fallow tide]

The Guest is the town legend, and also the creepy guy in the forest

[fallow tide]

Here is most of the info we have so far

[untold grotto]

the guest - the legend that townspeople once worshipped

[tall sorrel]

the legend and the person

[untold grotto]

and "the guest?" is someone acting like that urban legend, but killing people in the forest

forest dweller is "the guest?"

or the "guest"

and not guest

theres a difference between them

no

"guest" and guest? is same

guest is seperate

[fallow tide]

Picture in question

[untold grotto]

because they are seperate

[fallow tide]

We can only speculate why there are two of them, but my bet is that "GUEST" is town legend and mascot, and "GUEST?" is the forest dweller

[untold grotto]

read it again

"guest" = guest?

and guest is seperate

quotation marks

dooont forget quotation marks

[fallow tide]

You can call him Fake Guest for clarity

[untold grotto]

i do

usually i use forest dweller for him

[fallow tide]

Reminds me of the times when Fake Neighbor was a thing...

[near hawk]

For this message the "guest" is taken to mean the guy that chases us

[untold grotto]

its just straight up

what has been said

[deft summit]

the "Guest" in quotations marks usually is used when quoting, which means when typed out it creates a detail that it could be an impersonator

ok my Internet is lagging bad

[near hawk]

Meanwhile for the screenshot that has the question Mark after the guest, it's also the guy that chases us

They are the same

[deft summit]

I apologize for it, for the first time in half a year I'm back at school for graduation

so my Internet won't be very great

[fallow tide]

The mural have EIHWAZ instead of reversed LAGUZ as the forth symbol. EIHWAZ means trustworthiness, so it may be an older version of the runes, before everything went south

[untold grotto]

i think these runes is not something that has relevance in literal

its like meta storytelling for player

but in game its just decoration thing

[bold siren]

Something I really wanna know is what Nikita uses for HN3's Canon.
I mean, things like the GA company, the name Raven Brooks where somehow in HN1, but formally presented in Missing Pieces.
So idk if he takes some stuff from books or all of games or maybe just his ideas.
I really wanna know for sure what he takes in count while writing HN3 story.
Maybe he takes in count GN2? Idk. Maybe he takes in count Nicky’s trilogy? Idk. Maybe he only takes in count some of the games and not all of them? Idk

[near hawk]

He did use Lucy Yi

[bold siren]

PD: I know he said he wanted to make HN3 a new story, but I'm referring to things like dates, names, Neighbor and The Guest (characters that already were in past products), etc

[bold siren]

In HN3 there's a mention to Lucy?

[near hawk]

Girl that died on guest rollercoaster

I don't think that exact name is ever used but.

[untold grotto]

not like they straight up said its lucy but theres a similar accident

and some people thought its because of the guest

since the roller coaster was named Guest Roller Coaster

and might be another stuff that led people thought that

[bold siren]

Mmmm, this is also interesting adding to my message before, cause the opening day thing was an Aaron's trilogy thing.
Because of things like that I wanna know what Nikita takes in count

[untold grotto]

i still dont understand why was the date changed from 90s to 84

[bold siren]

That's why I wanna know what Nikita takes in count. Maybe he doesn't take in count the books and GN dates? We dont know.

[untold grotto]

i think he "does not take" the other medias, theres some set events and every writer writes their own versions of that events

[mighty orchid]

This image proves Nicky is guest as they both have set foot in the amusement park before

[civic totem]

I'm very excited for Alpha 1

[tall sorrel]

I mean Nikita once had a full mapped out timeline of events according to a QnA so take with that what you will

[finite carbon]

Idk why people think that Nicky will be the Guest

It wouldn’t make any sense for his character arc

Because Nicky already overcame his trauma before the events of HN3

My guess for the “Guest” is that it’s Aaron

I’m really curious to see what they’re cooking up with the “Guest” and the Guest?.

The idea of an imposter Guest is very intriguing

And also begs more questions for the real Guest

[fleet sandal]

Maybe the HN2 Guest is still alive in Hello Neighbor 3?

[finite carbon]

What if the HN2 Guest was also an imposter?

What if the real Guest has yet to be revealed

[tall sorrel]

yeah
that's the common theory for Forest Dweller/"Guest"/Guest?

[torn prairie]

In the small town where I used to live, there are also legends, but one in particular might relate to a theory I have about the Guest. Simply put, to keep the tradition or legend alive, over the years there isn't just one Guest; someone else takes on this role.

[tall sorrel]

it fits with all of the evidence and makes narrative sense

[finite carbon]

What if there is a whole slew of people over the years that have been possessed by the real Guest and have been basically minions for the real Guest, That’d explain the different appearance the Guest has in HN3 since it’s most likely a new person under the mask.

It’d also tie in with the official lore

Since Aaron made a deal with the Guest in HNVR

[tall sorrel]

fun thing is this is already somewhat a theory and in a way a part of it's confirmed
HNVR shows the beginning of Aaron AND Theodore "becoming" the Guest
Theodore becomes the Guest in Graphic Novel 2
and then he'd pass down the mantle to Aaron
(GuestPersona moment)

[fleet sandal]

What about Franklin Peterson?

[tall sorrel]

potentially the one from HN2 but that's unconfirmed

[fleet sandal]

Hopefully WTRB Season 3 will give us the answer.

[finite carbon]

Franklin Peterson so far has only been confirmed to exist within the show’s universe

[tall sorrel]

aka all of the pieces are there even within the lore itself

[tall sorrel]

everything is canon 😉

[fleet sandal]

in some way

[fallow tide]

Personally I don't like the idea of the Guest being a supernatural creature. It works better as symbol that different people use for their goals. I think there are different Guests because different people chose to put on a mask for their own reasons

[tall sorrel]

in-universe folklore/stories seems to be the confirmed answer

[finite carbon]

Weren’t the games and wtrb set in official different universes?

[tall sorrel]

it's also been said to be "Semi-canon"

[finite carbon]

This is true

[tall sorrel]

which implies at least a part of it is canon

[finite carbon]

But if it is Franklin though they have gotta set up his character before revealing he’s the Guest if he truly is the Guest

[fleet sandal]

Something that happens in multiple universes, but interpreted differently in those universes?

[tall sorrel]

("Canon is a flexible term" makes sense under story stuff)

[tall sorrel]

yeah, like
imagine a story passed down through the generations
every piece of media is basically that in-universe

Does it have truth to it? Yes...

is that exactly what happened? No.

[tall sorrel]

(except maybe Hello Neighbor 3)

[tall sorrel]

yeah, agreed

[finite carbon]

It’d be cool to get some new character reveals rn

[tall sorrel]

yeah, I mean we know Nikita has at least one he hasn't shown yet

[fleet sandal]

Through flashbacks of him and Theo before he eventually falls into the Mayak pit.

[finite carbon]

Alpha 1 at the very least needs to have 3 new characters added.

[tall sorrel]

yeah, right now we just don't have enough of him for a reveal to be satisfying

right now he's just he one who exists to haunt the narrative and set up the Mayak Mysteries

[fallow tide]

Nothing from Hello Neighbor 2 release or Animated Series was acknowledged in HN3, so I don't consider characters from there as options for the Guest

[gentle carbon]

kinda seems like the main thing is they both technically don't have a reason to kidnap people, but Nicky's story was completed and Aron's wasn't

[bold siren]

Guest kills people, so that point in Nikcy is the Guest theory is fake

[fallow tide]

Updated candidates

[finite carbon]

Bob Novak Guest is hilarious

[fallow tide]

True, but we cannot prove it is not him

[finite carbon]

It’d definitely be a twist, A bit like the Truman Show with everything being a lie and set up by Alma’s very own father

It’s an interesting Theory

Definitely sticks out from the usual Aaron and Nicky theories

[fallow tide]

Hoffman already used the Guest to manipulate people, maybe he is doing it again

[fallow tide]

Requirements to be a candidate:

• The character is mentioned in media directed by Nikita
• The character does not appear in HN3 alongside with the Guest
• The character is alive after the events of previous media

Who else fits into this criteria?

Possible candidates:
Likely:

• Nicky
• Aaron
• Bob Novak
  Less likely:
• Quentin
• Beatrix
• SMITH
  Unlikely:
• Neighbor's childhood friends
• Rescue Squad members
• Nielsen
• Leslie

[quick crow]

I personally think its Aaaron

The reason he would have to kill is rage or just hate towards adults

[fallow tide]

Do you have any points I can add to his picture?

[quick crow]

Well

Hmm just a sec I just woke up

When you say visual connections do you mean like body build wise?

[fallow tide]

Build is pretty similar, I mean visual elements like wristwatch and red shirt for Nicky Guest

[quick crow]

Well...we can assume aaron ran into the forest after mr peterson got squashed by that crow statue in the ending of hn2, which can explain why Mr peterson is limping. But aaron most likely adapted to the forest, which gave him time to think over what happened.

Which can explain the sweater which he most likely found

And the sticks that are stuck in the fuzz of the sweater.

[quick crow]

Looks great!

👏 👏 👏 👏

[fast walrus]

Is there any kind of checkpoint I'm missing at the amusement park? I keep dying to the Guest a couple minutes after getting there and have to get the levers all over again.

[fallow tide]

There are no checkpoints, but you can:

• Optimize the ways you get the lever and enter the cable car
• Find ways to avoid the Guest in the park (there are at least 3 strategies I know of)
• Make sure you know what you're looking for and where approximately it is located

[quick crow]

HN3 dosent have checkpoints yet, only thing that saves are notes and objectives.

I would recommend getting the photo camera from the museum, because if you take a photo of the guest with it for some reason he ragdolls for a few seconds

[fast walrus]

I forgot there was a camera, thanks.

[fast walrus]

What's the easiest way to avoid him? I've tried sneaking around and hiding in a box but he always lunges right at me before I have time to react.

[fallow tide]

The Guest dislikes a specific thing (||Light||). You can use this fact by

• Staying where this thing is abundant (||Near a lamp post||)
• Creating more of this thing (||Flashlight ultra mode - hold LMB||)

[quick crow]

Thats because the guest always knows when you step into unlit areas

The AI automatically teleports to you when you enter a danger zone

[fast walrus]

Good to know, hope they make it a little more forgiving in the final game.

[misty linden]

Guys so hello neighbor 3 gonna confirmed to be multiplayer or not

[quick crow]

Its not gonna be multiplayer, Nikita already said in a previous dev log that its too hard to do.

He said that in the first devlog I believe?

[misty linden]

Oh

At first i got hype about the multiplayer

[fast walrus]

I finally got to the weather station, got stuck, and then the game fizzled out. Is this going to be in the release version?

[blissful river]

This is the pre alpha.

[misty linden]

Btw how to find the neighbor in the game i been walking around

[fast walrus]

I'm aware, even for a prototype I don't see the point. Nothing says there's a time limit.

[blissful river]

Then you should also be aware that the game is very early in development, so many things are still being reworked or added. There might not be a very good way to understand that the game has a specific set of time before it resets in the actual game yet, but these things will be better explained and improved over the course of development later on.

It will be better explained in the future most likely, most players already know of this feature from previous versions or insight though.

[fast walrus]

Have the developers commented on it yet?

[blissful river]

Here’s some things Nikita has said.

[fast walrus]

Huh.

[misty linden]

i feel the nostalagia

[blissful river]

You were asking about the reset yes?

[fast walrus]

Yeah I'm just saying the comments are interesting.

[blissful river]

Ohhh

Mb it sounded like you were confused.

[fast walrus]

No worries, it happens.

[blissful river]

I think they are still figuring out the best way to use this mechanic, because it can be quite annoying when, for instance, you get all the way to the amusement park and die to the forest dweller having to do it all again.

Or run out of time like your experience

[deft summit]

I like how Majora's Mask it makes me feel

you basically just gotta optimize your route and technique, and that's just really cool

[fast walrus]

Yeah I'd at least have the levers stay, maybe have their original locations change slightly to signal they're not there anymore.

[blissful river]

Yeah. I think the idea is great, they just need to figure out the best way to make everything balanced.

Which I think they are trying to do

[fast walrus]

Maybe late in the game there could be some item that can let players stay in place between loops, I heard the books had something like that.

[low gate]

I still dont get why it would be any of these characters other than maybe potentially aaron

[blissful river]

I was about to say when you said Nicky at first LOL

Nicky’s story is done.

Aaron is the most likely for me. Or someone new.

[fast walrus]

Yeah I'm not a lore expert but Aaron makes the most sense.

[fallow tide]

I explained how I chose the characters for this list. The point is that if the Guest is a character we already know, he must be in this list

[deft summit]

I get the balancing I was just praising the idea itself

[deft summit]

has to see the neighbor as monster while the neighbor sees them as friend
so in other words the only one that's possible so far is Aaron

[fast walrus]

Have the developers mentioned any features they plan on adding? I saw the concept art for the UI at least.

[fallow tide]

Aaron has the most evidence so far. It may change when we get more information, so I want to consider all options

[fast walrus]

I think Aaron also works the most thematically since the Guest was originally just Theodore in a costume, this would basically fulfill the same idea without overriding the Guest as a monster.

[blissful river]

I would suggest to read through all of Nikita messages, he had talked about a lot of cool things. (Search for only messages from “Grandeturisto”

[fast walrus]

👍

[fallow tide]

We don't have confirmations that Guest was Theodore. On Hello Neighbor 2 Alpha stage the Guest was personification of kids disappearing in Quentin's imagination (Nikita explained it in an interview)

[fast walrus]

Huh, the more you know.

Is there a specific place for giving feedback on this game? There are a couple things I wanted to suggest.

[fallow tide]

#1494695990832267396

[fast walrus]

Perfect, thanks.

[near hawk]

🤝

[grim lark]

The guest has this sort of fairytale vibe to him rather than big bird demon

I do like both interpretations tho

[near hawk]

He was in Hello Guest

And i don't think Guest was exactly the kids disappearance

It embodied a storm that made a few dissapear.

[near hawk]

I mean he did work on books

I don't think HN3 is set in their continuity but i do think he would use some ideas from there

[crude ravine]

Quentin = nicky because quentin has a watch too

I think very good theory

[near hawk]

Otto as well

[crude ravine]

Ohhh

Nicky = everyone

[near hawk]

No Quentin is everyone

[crude ravine]

[near hawk]

Nicky is just everyone that has a watch

[crude ravine]

Make sense

[near hawk]

Nicky is kind of not possible beyond just lack of evidence and not making sense narratively

Because there's direct evidence against thst

Dissapearances started/spiked up "20 years ago" according to devlog 4 making it about 2008, they seem to be linked to the dweller

Nicky arrives in either 2017 or 2016 i think

[crude ravine]

Also in files, ted sees friend to fd

[near hawk]

Yeah

[untold grotto]

we actually can

the forest dweller didnt appeared until 2008
and bob novak came to town in either late 2027 or january-feb 2028

[fallow tide]

Earlier disappearances may be unrelated to this forest dweller

[untold grotto]

because of why

that says "surrounding areas of raven brooks" rather than just raven brooks

which points out the forest

and then we have this

[fallow tide]

If he is kidnapping people for 20 years, how come nobody took a picture of him yet? Vandals saw the actual Guest pretty recently

[untold grotto]

because people who encountered him

is

dead

[livid crystal]

I had photos of him

[fallow tide]

This implies the Guest is a recent accurancy

[fallow tide]

Fair point. I'm not saying Bob Guest is the best theory, but we don't know when exactly Forest Dweller appeared, so it's possible

[untold grotto]

its just bunch of teenagers discovering him by chance

[untold grotto]

bobguest wouldnt work with this

that newspaper implies the kidnappings was around for a while

its in museum

[fallow tide]

With all the weird stuff in this town anything could happen to them. But your explanation is the most simple, so probably the right one

So Aaron is the only viable option, unless we hear about somebody else in the next version

[untold grotto]

aaron is the only one that is narratively satisfying

[fallow tide]

New crazy theory: The Guest is Alma's dad

[buoyant brook]

Forest dweller ≠ guest?

[untold grotto]

yes

forest dweller is someone acting like the urban legend the town once worshipped, the guest

[fallow tide]

The guest can refer to many things, so we use "forest dweller" to mean the pointy headed guy from HN3

(The actual physical person)

[untold grotto]

left one is the guest and the other one is forest dweller

[buoyant brook]

Interestinf

If the Forest Dweller is NOT the Guest from hn2, then I wonder who it really is?

[untold grotto]

not to mention that the neighbor is blocking the sun that the guest caused to rise

[fallow tide]

There's actually 3 versions of the Guest

[untold grotto]

"the guest from hn2" is not the guest too

[buoyant brook]

Whatt???

[untold grotto]

its a guest but not the urban legend itself

[buoyant brook]

Woahh

Why are so many people acting like the urban legend!??

[untold grotto]

well for hn2 one its not like its acting like him

presumably he just took over the cultist clothes he killed

to hide his body

or something

[buoyant brook]

Ooh

[untold grotto]

and hn2 - hn3 is different stories

[buoyant brook]

So what relation does the sun and the guest have?

[untold grotto]

its about the storm

i dont know if you played prototype 3 but on that build if you do the guest statue the storm stops

and the sun rises

but the neighbor destroys the statue and storm starts again

and storm kills everyone

[buoyant brook]

Yeah

I always used to think that the Storm and the Guest were random and unrelated

But your view on it definitely makes sense

[untold grotto]

i think its just not about storm, its about misfortunes in general

like 4 years after townspeople abandone the guest a girl died on a roller coaster accident

[buoyant brook]

The lore of this game is interesting but I find it really random especially when compared to what's shown in Hn1

[untold grotto]

and that roller coaster name is

[buoyant brook]

Yeah

[untold grotto]

Guest Roller Coaster

[fallow tide]

To be a contrarian, we don't know if Theo destroying the statue caused the storm. The sunshine may be unrelated to his actions. Either way, I don't think Theo would want them all dead

[untold grotto]

watch the cutscene again

[buoyant brook]

I wonder how the Mayak ties into the town's misfortune and the urban legend of the Guest

[fallow tide]

After does not mean because of. One of the pillars of this franchise is framing Theo as a monster when he is trying to do something good

[untold grotto]

watch it again

the festival starts
the rain stops
townspeople go happy
the neighbor arrives and destroys the statue
the rain starts again

[fallow tide]

Pretty convenient timing to frame Theo as the bad guy

[untold grotto]

i didnt say he was a bad guy

[buoyant brook]

I've been wondering if Hello Neighbor 3 is a literal time loop

[untold grotto]

i just said what he done has bad consequences

[untold grotto]

its not literal

[buoyant brook]

Because after prototype 3s Peterson ending, everyone just seems to have disappeared

[buoyant brook]

I havent read the books but

Isnt there one called Reset Day

Where a girl named Piper experiences the same day over and over again??

[untold grotto]

yes but the hn3 has a different story and time is not looping for player

[buoyant brook]

Oh

[untold grotto]

forest dweller being aaron is like 80% to me

forest dweller should be someone that sees the neighbor as a monster while the neighbor sees him as friend

[obtuse elk]

I'm so excited to play the pre-alpha

I'm gonna try to play it tomorrow

[buoyant brook]

It looks really similar to Nicky though?

[limpid pewter]

nickys story is finished

[untold grotto]

i personally dont see it ngl

[buoyant brook]

Same watch, similar shirt, similar jeans

[untold grotto]

and narratively it wouldnt makes sense

[limpid pewter]

and he actually got rid of his trauma in act 3 using self therapy

[untold grotto]

forest dweller is already in the town when nicky moved back

[buoyant brook]

How do we know it's the same one?

[untold grotto]

wdym

[buoyant brook]

Like you mentioned there being different people imitating the Guest

[untold grotto]

forest disappearings started in 2008
nicky moved back to raven brooks in 2017

that was what i meant

[obtuse elk]

Nicky returning would be awesome, but it's not likely how I see it. He had a very good arc that was completed in hn1.

Quentin is still the GOAT tho

I'm actually not aware of Hello Neighbor 3's story so far

though I suppose it is subject to change

[untold grotto]

not really

the pre alpha story is now "canon" story of hn3

but its just super simplified version

[obtuse elk]

oh neat !

sorta like the hn1 alphas

assuming I'm not tripping

[near hawk]

No HN1 alphas story was completely different from final story
Alpha 1 had the neighbor be the Devil, and the player character is trapped in a fake dimension made by him to get our soul due to a bet made with God.
Alpha 2-4 had us be the kid of the neighbor, who is a bad parent due to a cycle of generational trauma.

[obtuse elk]

Oh wow

I'm learning so much here

thank you !

[quartz sequoia]

oh my god CLOTHES

[low gate]

COMMONLY USED CLOTHING???

Same person clearly

[quartz sequoia]

gasp

a WATCH TO TELL TIME

he must be

Nicky

only Nicky can have a watch in the hello neighbor universe

[low gate]

Also he doesnt even wear a shirt its a jumper or a sweater or whatever plus nicky has two shirts on

Forest dweller sleeves arent rolled theyre torn

Similar jeans as in not at all as nicky has rolled up jeans with massive pockets on the legs and the fd just has skinny old jeans

[broken island]

I mean people usually only wear the same stuff in these series

It's mostly usually colour coded tho

[tawny yoke]

forest dweller's clothes barely resemble nicky's though

like there is basically no similarity

[broken island]

Well yeah they don't resemble eachother

[lone tangle]

Why dose no one talk about how good the soundtrack is?

[celest plank]

nicky aint the guest

case closed

[narrow gust]

The guest hates light and Aaron probably didn't like light after he escaped because he was in the dark for so long + in some media Aaron wants to stay in the dark basement instead of leaving

[untold grotto]

its something with the mask i would say

since in the previous storyline that the neighbor was the "guest", he was also afraid from light

[rocky siren]

I just realised today that hello neighbour is one of the best and kindness fandom I have ever been in so far

I might make a YouTube/tiktok videos for an idea of a hello neighbour game

[narrow gust]

Depends what part of the fandom your in

[bronze steppe]

true

[meager walrus]

welll...there are some oddballs here and there

[quartz canopy]

no not really

[exotic pewter]

I actually agree with that

[celest plank]

i agree if we exclude browny

[near hawk]

What's bro's beef with browny

[celest plank]

i wanted to feel tough

[eager glade]

He's right if it counts with hello neighbor tiktok

[pine marlin]

Will Coned appears in Alpha 1 ?

[near hawk]

Probability

[untold grotto]

he is in pre alpha

[pine marlin]

Really? because I didn’t see him

[untold grotto]

he barely leaves his house

[buoyant brook]

He has his own house

[untold grotto]

thats why

[pine marlin]

Well, yeah, he'll show up.

Make sense

[buoyant brook]

What's this??

[pine marlin]

Here's a list of places and characters that will appear. You can say where to take notes.

[untold grotto]

the upcoming notes ui

[pine marlin]

Yes that

[buoyant brook]

2 guest sections?

[untold grotto]

guest - the urban legend, the one that town worshipped

guest? - the forest dweller

[pine marlin]

Go to work in progress and you will see a lot of new ui

[buoyant brook]

Right so that confirms that the guest we see in hn3 , the forest dweller, is js someone imposing as the urban legend

[celest plank]

he's really like making a clear line between the forest dweller and the other "guest"

i cant help but think the other guest isnt just the tradition

or if it is, that tradition is gonna be like very important

and if its important it should probably result in something once practised

[untold grotto]

well

it stopped storm before the neighbor destroyed it

[celest plank]

i mean idk

i view it as symbolic but there is a possibility that it has a literal explanation

[untold grotto]

i didnt say its literal

[spring estuary]

who it is?

[celest plank]

im just saying

[spring estuary]

okay

[celest plank]

the tradition kinda has to do something and be legit if its that important

[celest plank]

guest and forest dweller

[spring estuary]

What are the differences?

[celest plank]

well the forest dweller is like

the guy that roams in the forest

which is the guest but like not really i think

[spring estuary]

ISN'T THAT THE SAME?

[untold grotto]

guest and guest?

[near hawk]

Guest is an urban legend(also a mascot for the park, the statue uses his image)

Forest dweller is someone who pretends to be him

[celest plank]

the physical guest is probably aaron and pretends to be the guest

the other guest is prolly not even real

[near hawk]

At the very most the legend could have originated from some kind of real event
But like there's no evidence for that

[spring estuary]

And now it's clear

[celest plank]

we saw it all frigid

[celest plank]

hponestly i never even thought of htat

[spring estuary]

Personally, I think the guest is Nick Roth.

[celest plank]

traditions often times just evolve to be what they are

this one just suddenly appeared in 1980 i believe

[untold grotto]

no

[near hawk]

Before, 1980

[untold grotto]

its cancelled in 1980

[celest plank]

nicky has no reason to be the guest and his story is finished

[celest plank]

oh yeah right

[near hawk]

Probably around town funding

[pine marlin]

I think we will meet the real one in the folklore

[celest plank]

then why have a separate category

[untold grotto]

its not seperate

its title and subtitle

theres also citizens tab and then specific tabs about citizens

[spring estuary]

it's a pity, I was hoping that his story would continue🥲

[untold grotto]

theres a thing that has been in my mind for a while:

if there was no storms back then why did they built weather station (assuming its built because of researching storms)

[near hawk]

Tbf citizen tab is right above the citizens.
Folklore is pretty distant from it.

[eager glade]

I wonder if the other guest will like be an NPC

[celest plank]

i mean even if thats the case

[untold grotto]

and the pact that statue mentioned doesnt fit with the storms appearing post 1980

so i would say

[celest plank]

guest is kinda technically not the folklore itself

[untold grotto]

town funding - weather station got built - pact with the guest

[celest plank]

cause it formed around the guest right

[pine marlin]

If you think about the logic of the person we meet, like what you call a forest dweller, if you look a little at his beak, you find it fake.

[celest plank]

yea its fake

[near hawk]

I think him being an npc could still be symbolical but that would need to be made very clear and it seems pretty difficult to so.

[celest plank]

guest isnt an entity

[near hawk]

"beak"

[untold grotto]

as if the "real" guests beak is any different

[celest plank]

i wonder why the beak is facing up at all tbh

is that even supposed to be a beak

[near hawk]

No it's not

[eager glade]

So ig it'd js be notes and drawings and stuff maybe he will look different

[near hawk]

Guest doesn't even represent a crow

[untold grotto]

yeah its like its own

[celest plank]

yeah but like clearly the fake guest tries to have a beak of some sorts

[eager glade]

It's just a hat

[pine marlin]

But he has a super power , if you read comic names raven Brooks disasters you will know

[eager glade]

Smth likeit

[near hawk]

For the Guest it's probably how he looks.
For the dweller i don't think it's outright a hat but like close enough.

[near hawk]

I don't think so Nikita implied-confirmed otherwise

[celest plank]

he confirmed its not a bird

not that its not supposed to resemble a beak

[untold grotto]

and theres no other animal that has beak?

[celest plank]

what

[near hawk]

No he means like

[celest plank]

the guest doesnt have to be a bird to have a fake beak

[near hawk]

Yeah

[pine marlin]

He literally turn-out to a crow in Hello Neighbor VR

[near hawk]

But like Nikita confirmed he doesn't even resemble one iirc

[pine marlin]

Your right

[untold grotto]

what is the point of giving a character a beak if its not representing a bird

[celest plank]

well we technically dont know who the guest is supposed to be so

[near hawk]

So what, VR's mostly metaphorical, i think like all of that happens in "Dark dream" dimension or whatever it's called

@celest plank

[celest plank]

greetings

[near hawk]

Yeah look at what Nikita's replying to

[celest plank]

so what does that mean

[near hawk]

It basically confirms that he means Guest doesn't even resemble a crow

[pine marlin]

Any way he an entity

[near hawk]

Mr Apple says he's not supposed to be physically a bird but he resembled one, and that he got it as Nikita saying he doesn't resemble one.
Nikita says that's correct

He's not

[near hawk]

Even If it was for other media(Guest not supernatural btw) HN3 tells a different story with a different Guest

[celest plank]

well that still applies

a lot of times if not most of the times, folklore characters are like absolutely bizarre

take centaur

[near hawk]

Oh there was also this

[celest plank]

interesting

does he mean its not a beak or is it like not supposed to look like a beak

[pine marlin]

He is , read comic names raven Brooks Disaster

[celest plank]

cause its obviously not a real beak

[near hawk]

Let's assume you're right, that doesn't relate to HN3

[near hawk]

Kryptqn says Guest's not supposed to be a bird to someone that talks about him resembling a bird.
Basguvenlik asks why he got beak.
Nikita says it's not a beak.
That to me would imply he says it's not supposed to look like a beak.

[pine marlin]

Books are linked to the main Games

[celest plank]

i think it more so means its not a real beak but thats an assumption

[celest plank]

every story in hello neighbor is told differently

hence why it can seem contradicting

[near hawk]

Yeah and books have the park be opened in 1992

HN3 has it in 1984

[celest plank]

imagine it as different people telling the same story differently based on how they remember it

thats how i think it is

[near hawk]

If there's differences already then who's to say that the Guest stayed consistent

[near hawk]

I don't it's even based on how they remember it

Some might be but it was described as urban legends and rumours

[untold grotto]

just noticed the ui is written in the font of the vandals

[celest plank]

i mean then theres no excuse to be wrong abt factual information like the park opening

[near hawk]

(HN1 and HaS seem like they're actually happening or memory based or smth)

[untold grotto]

i think they also used this font in some marketing assets too

[celest plank]

they did

[pine marlin]

But I still think he has

[near hawk]

And anyway Guest is confirmed as non-supernatural

Nikita did work on GN2 as well iirc

[celest plank]

tbf it could be a different creature and that doesnt need to be supernatural but its still obvious asf the guest isnt an entity

[near hawk]

Sure, but anythink was using him doing supernatural actions for him being supernatural

[celest plank]

or a creature

[near hawk]

And like the message i replied to was saying that he is supernatural

[pine pelican]

what hello neighbor 3 is about?

[celest plank]

i think we should all agree the fd is a human

[pine pelican]

and why it take place in golden Apple amusement park

[untold grotto]

it does not

[pine pelican]

misunderstanding place

[untold grotto]

its taking place in raven brooks

[pine marlin]

Yes

[pine pelican]

ohh

[untold grotto]

amusement park is one of the various locations in the game

[pine pelican]

then why raven brooks look like hello guest prototype game

[celest plank]

does it

[crude ravine]

Why not

[near hawk]

It doesn't to me.

[celest plank]

it doesnt really look like a hg prototype

[pine pelican]

it because of hill and land scale

and building

[celest plank]

its the art direction for hn3

[untold grotto]

both HG and hn3 is based on fishermans village

so yeah thats why the town is similar

[pine pelican]

even elevated track

[pine pelican]

make sense

[hoary heath]

Why have 2 ping

But it one mesage

Work in progress

[celest plank]

nikita sent the same message 2 times

[pine marlin]

Where did you get this ?

[crude ravine]

Archived rbo channel

[pine marlin]

Where is this

[crude ravine]

There should be a place like this but idk how to open it

[civic totem]

You have to go to Channels & Roles > Customize and then click on "Archive role" @pine marlin

[pine marlin]

Thanks

[civic totem]

Np

[bronze phoenix]

2 guests?

i wonder if the game will let npcs give u missions

[pine marlin]

Its in old rbo discussion right?

[civic totem]

Yes

[pine marlin]

Ok

Thanks again

[civic totem]

Np

[untold grotto]

#hn3-discussion message

[bronze phoenix]

so there is gonna be lore

wasent sure at first

[untold grotto]

guest is the urban legend the town worshipped back then
and "guest?" aka forest dweller is someone acting like that urban legend

[bronze phoenix]

hmm

[untold grotto]

but its like exact opposite of the guest

[bronze phoenix]

may i ask where people get info of the lore from?

[untold grotto]

from the game

[untold grotto]

the guest protects the town from misfortunes
while the forest dweller killing people of the town

[rocky siren]

I played Nicky diary’s today Ive only got 5 missions left but ragequitted after After grinding for like 3 hours

It’s currently 1;15 am and I started it at around 8-9

[untold surge]

People what are your fellings about HN3 horror aspect for now

[pine marlin]

After all this, I think the guest is a human being who is deformed by a curse or a human being who has been sacrificed, and he is a vessel for the real guest.

[rocky siren]

The guest takes things they think people don’t deserve

[crude ravine]

We are not waiting horror stuff for any hello neighbor game

[untold grotto]

hello Neighbor is not a horror game, never was

[pine marlin]

Because Nikita, as far as I can remember, stated that this is supposed to be a nose rather than a beak, and this thing happened due to a deformity, and the closest conclusion is the cause of the deformation is a curse.

[untold grotto]

what

[rocky siren]

Hello neighbour 1 is more of a few tiny jumpscares than actual horror

I actually finished hello neigbour 1 today

[untold grotto]

its not like a jumpscare but okay

[rocky siren]

A majority Hello neighbour act 3 is painful

[meager walrus]

fear school is 80% of that

20% is the FINALE

[rocky siren]

Fear school was easy for me but there was one where I had to throw something at a switchin the no gun room and It lasted for 10-20 minutes of pure agony

[pine pelican]

is it a stealth game but gameplay is not stealth enough and buggy games

[rocky siren]

I had to use a tutorial for act 2&3 because it’s to hard and confusing Thats why Nicky’s diary is my top 3 hello neighbour games

[pine marlin]

So true

[rocky siren]

Does anyone know if they update secret neighbour

[obtuse elk]

school and grocery store minigames are really tricky for me

act 3's still my favorite tho I love the house

[rocky siren]

Yes same the puzzles suck and are super confusing and make no sense which makes everyone use the turtorial but it also has the coolest part and house which also got the final part and cool abilities

[obtuse elk]

this !!

[near hawk]

He never said that

[rocky siren]

I wonder what happend to Aron

[crude ravine]

Wrong marketing

[near hawk]

Well...
We think that...
He's the Guest in HN3

[rocky siren]

Nah I think

[obtuse elk]

frying me

[modern orbit]

I feel like after everything that happened you’d think he wouldn’t want to associate himself with the neighbor in any way possible, even it means trying to stop him

[near hawk]

Why would him being Guest associate him with Ted

[modern orbit]

I guess you’re right

But I just don’t think he’d be the guest

[untold grotto]

personally its narratively satisfying for me

[modern orbit]

It would be cool

[keen hemlock]

hn3 is what hn2 should've been but with the neural network

open world with investigative stuff

like the new ui is basically that

[tall sorrel]

Hat, not nose.

[tall sorrel]

Just to check... Theodore's age in Hello Neighbor 1 is still like- 52 right?

(no wait, with the new birthyear it'd be like, 54)

[winter lark]

I wonder if Nikita would be okay with me making a 2d game inspired by Hello Neighbor... with different characters, setting, and artstyle ofc

but the same kinda vibe, spooky town, weird things happening, etc

definitely not like silent hill

omg hello neighbor is just silent hill but more humans

[winter lark]

horror aspects, but yeah definitely not a horror game

some of it feels straight up thriller, rather than horror

https://tenor.com/view/mj-michael-jackson-kingofpop-thriller-gif-13480530

[meager walrus]

ofc you put thriller

[winter lark]

yah, ofc I did

why, u got a problem with that, guy who cancelled every Hello Neighbor game ever? including old ones and the Nintendo DS port of Hello Neighbor Tetris?

[meager walrus]

no i obviously dont lmao

[knotty fossil]

when do you guys think h3 is coming out

i was thinking late 2026 early 2027

[limpid pewter]

i think 2028

[crude ravine]

late 2027 or early 2028

we are in pre alpha stage yet

there will be alphas beta full game etc

[winter lark]

I wonder how different the first alpha will be

[mellow garden]

Huge update

I think

[winter lark]

we might even get the rumoured "mumble/text character dialogue" in that version

if thats even planned

I think it would be nice if, as the player does they might just enter a location like the bakery, and the character will tell you to leave, point to indicate, and then just a text box appear at the bottom with some mumbles coming from the character

[graceful jay]

guys, do you think the ending with isaac and guest will come back?

[celest plank]

probably not

unless it fits the game

even if it does, probably a bit differently

bro guys i dont really like the guest's design but this render is just too good

[crude ravine]

the render from wiki gg?

[near hawk]

Honestly not the biggest fan of that render

[celest plank]

there is not a single better render of the guest

[crystal hare]

This render is used on ru-wiki but it was originally posted on this server.

[celest plank]

and that image makes the guest look tuffer than he is

i absolutely hate his design

the tight dirty jeans are pissing me off

the sweater is fine

i guess his entire character is supposed to kinda like

be wearing scraps

if the other guest is a physical character i highkey hope hes gonna look better

which i doubt he even exists

this is still the best guest

i kinda wonder why the guest before hn3 has the beak horizontal and in hn3 its just vertical

probably has a meaning behind it if they decided it to be vertical

[untold grotto]

i think thats because its representing a crow/raven in a one and not in other

[celest plank]

i thought all the guest costumes were based on this character since thats where the guest originates from i suppose

[untold grotto]

its just another take on the urban legend guest

like that is also different in other medias too

because in a one its like worshipped thingy and in the one just a urban legend

[exotic pewter]

do we have any official renders of HN3 Guest

[untold grotto]

no

we dont have a one for jacob too

[exotic pewter]

we have one for the others?

[untold grotto]

yes on the artists instagram page i believe

[exotic pewter]

name of the artist?

[untold grotto]

https://www.instagram.com/peter3d.art

[jolly mirage]

Theory: this is "Guest?" While guest we have in game is regular one

[untold grotto]

its the opposite

[celest plank]

yea thats pretty much it

the other guest is the folklore

[lone tangle]

@frigid very interesting (the animation)

[peak flax]

like Hello Neighbor prea

[near hawk]

Well first up festival was before dissapearances started(festival was cancelled in 80s, dissapearances started ~ 2008 since it's "20 years ago according to devlog 4", probably meaning 20 years before Raven Brooks time.).
This would imply the Dweller is the faker and as such, the "Guest".
Second down, Nikita once said we didn't see the Guest despite the dweller being in the main concept art iirc. This would imply the real Guest is that statue one, not the forest dweller.

[near hawk]

Is that the nest zone from Raven Brooks disaster at the start

[lone tangle]

We know tho that there was disappearances at the mayak likely pre shut down

[lone tangle]

Ye

[near hawk]

Looks nice

[lone tangle]

Thx what’s the worst parts tho

[near hawk]

The dweller holding the picture part looks kind of awkwardly animated

[lone tangle]

True. lol thx 😊

[narrow gust]

This is literally one of the best hn renders

[celest plank]

correct

[near hawk]

I mean the glove looks pretty cool

[untold grotto]

who made that

[narrow gust]

I have no idea

[lunar trail]

@tall perch isnt this your render

[near hawk]

Isn't it a wiki render

[tall perch]

WGAT

[narrow gust]

I've just noticed your green now

[tall perch]

hi thats mine yea

[lunar trail]

awesom

[untold grotto]

pretty sure khara's renders was different

[tall perch]

it was put on the Russian wiki

my render

[lunar trail]

There's a russian wiki?

[untold grotto]

yeah

[tall perch]

i have to go now bye

[celest plank]

Bye.

[near hawk]

Cya hopefully not soon-ish!!

[celest plank]

sigh

[wild girder]

I hope the new foliage resembles the look of one of these images.

[tall sorrel]

Ye, I sometimes grab images from it when the English ones fail

[wild girder]

These images perfectly capture the whole "ghost town in the middle of nowhere" vibe. It genuinely feels like there's something dangerous out there which I feel like the current look of Prototype 3/Pre Alpha is missing.

[celest plank]

i agree so much bro

there should be a little more color

[wild girder]

Not only do I find it more eerie. But it's also kind of saddening. It feels like a destroyed dying version of a childhood hometown.

[safe raft]

I agree but I think the left one is what i want it to lool like

[obtuse elk]

hello peak

[finite carbon]

It’d be interesting to see a sequel to HNVR set in HN3

[finite carbon]

Crazy to see that Theodore is still doing same stuff he’s been doing in the 90s in the year of 2028

[maiden scarab]

Hola, hablo español, solo dejare esto por aqui y seguire intentando resolver la alpha por mi cuenta

[bold siren]

#spanish-chat

[maiden scarab]

Lol

Thanks

[rotund plaza]

Window reflection

[tacit tartan]

hello guys

just want to ask for a question

i really liked hello neighbor 2

it was really fun and good game

and hello neighbor 3

what character are you in hello neighbor 3 playing as

[untold grotto]

almira hoffman

youre daughter of Golden Apple's ceo

[tacit tartan]

thanks

and will be hello neighbor 3 something like the old neighbor games or something new

[untold grotto]

depends on what you're referring to

[tacit tartan]

like if its a new story

new character

or it was in the older hello neighbor games

[untold grotto]

its set to 30 years after first 2 games

[near hawk]

It tells its own story however if you played HN1 for example you'll get a bit more depth

[tacit tartan]

yea

[near hawk]

And it's pretty distant from everything else as well

Because you know, it's in 2028

Most other media is in like the 90s.

[tacit tartan]

yea

i played the pre alpha and its pretty good

but still its not the full game and many bugs may have been seen

only bug i think should be fixed is when youre holding item and running you can see thaat the hand isnt holding it

[untold grotto]

its not a bug

theres just not a holding animation yet

[tacit tartan]

oh ok

oh yeah

the animation

[celest plank]

pre alpha was released 1 month ago today

[wild girder]

Will the new foliage look like the foliage in one of these images?

[crude ravine]

Thx

[wicked moth]

I know Nikita isn't online now, but just in case he sees this, I wanted to ask: There was a mechanic at some point about NPC's calling each other on the landline phones. Was this fully scrapped or could it still be added?

[ionic bay]

I'm wondering if it will really be completely different and of better quality, or if the color will change

[karmic bay]

He already said yeah

[severe merlin]

I’ll share new foliage look as soon as it’s going to be finished 🙂

[wild girder]

Okay. Can't wait to see it.

[severe merlin]

Many NPC’s communication mechanics are on hold, due to prioritizing more fundamental stuff. We’ll see if calling by phone will make sense later.

[empty shell]

not sure if you can answer this but is there a possibility we will get birthdays of the characters? 👀

[crystal hare]

#hn3-discussion message

[empty shell]

yeah but will they ever get revealed?

[rotund plaza]

Alma hoffman/Almira Hoffman

[rotund plaza]

... It's not a bug

[rotund plaza]

Yes

[empty shell]

hi mike

[rotund plaza]

Hello miki

No and never.

Ping him for an actual conversation, I know this by experience

It depends on which guest

We are talking about

[rotund plaza]

How are you?

[empty shell]

good!!

[rotund plaza]

Before you say anything, I am going through hell

[empty shell]

im sorry to hear that :((

[ionic bay]

Hopefully soon

[untold grotto]

i mean how are they even going to reveal them

the game takes place in 28 february

[empty shell]

dates on pictures? idk

[ionic bay]

Will there be no other versions with different date?

[untold grotto]

no

[tawny yoke]

please have a little bit more of green

I think it would be nice

[ionic bay]

Yeah

[ionic bay]

Like this one

[tawny yoke]

YEAH exactly

I need to see more pines and spruces man

they're gonna fit the atmosphere so much

[celest plank]

honestly i dont care what type of trees there will be

i juts want there to be more color

oh ye and optimized foliage

pre alpha foliage is my biggest enemy

[tawny yoke]

I mean I want there to be conifers so there's more colors while seeing the town from above

because currently it's all brown

like you said more colors would be nice

[low gate]

Yeah its part of the style i think

I quite like the drabness of it

[tawny yoke]

yeah this could be the case

[tawny yoke]

since I think they said that this is not the direction they're going to anymore

I mean if there was still no greenery in the finalized foliage I wouldn't get disappointed at all to be honest

I still really like how the city looks

[celest plank]

i canot lie i would be disappointed

the game genuinely doesnt look good as it is at this moment

feels so dry

the lifelessness looks kind of forced

[ruby cargo]

When do you guys think HN3 will release ? it's been on my steam wislist since February 16th way back in 2024

[winged jungle]

I really hope its gonna be something like this

[river gyro]

I dunno, maybe it will release on 2028 or up

[blissful zinc]

THIS looked really good so i pray the full game looks like this

its colorful but not too much

[naive basin]

the game barely changed tho visually from p1 to prealpha

[civic totem]

True

[naive basin]

in fact i'd argue the game barely changed at all

but thats a different topic

[naive basin]

from like p2

[limpid pewter]

the only thing i say changed would have been the direction they were going for

art style is pretty much final obv still a lot of placeholders

[naive basin]

the thing that didnt change is the fact that they managed to not fix sensitivity in four versions

[crude ravine]

2027 or 28

[celest plank]

its not releasing in 2027

[lucid egret]

guys, check this

[crude ravine]

?

[near meadow]

I really

Really need someone to recreate that hello guest render

[sonic hatch]

ive never played one of these games in my life but last night an old friend i havent spoken to in years sent me an invite to the playtest for this

[near meadow]

But with the beak pointing upwards for accuracy

[sonic hatch]

i still cant figure out what im doing but it has been entertaining to screw with the npcs

[celest plank]

not necessarily upward

[tawny yoke]

I think Nikita said they are going in a little bit different direction now

from the old steam images

[celest plank]

maybe like bent down back

like in the concept art

[tawny yoke]

the current images on steam resemble the style they are going for more from I remember

[untold grotto]

that screenshot is from steam page, taken from an earlier pre alpha build

[graceful jay]

oooohhh

[untold grotto]

and nikita implied that ending might be comeback

and its like very highly because vandals was nothing burger in pre alpha

[graceful jay]

thats cool

im waiting for isaac ending comeback

[celest plank]

💔

literally just 1 color

the soil and trees

[narrow gust]

Maybe add some dark greens and some yellows

[sonic hatch]

are there any friendly npcs in this game or does everyone want to kill you

[celest plank]

yellow, dark green and red

and then my life’s complete

[celest plank]

you can befriend them

[narrow gust]

right now the games foliage looks like the sad aftermath of a forest fire

[celest plank]

by default they kinda dont like you

[crude ravine]

Finally people talk about current foliage hell yeah

[celest plank]

ive been protesting the foliage the whole time

[narrow gust]

at least hn2 had several tree types and the amazing orange trees

[sacred kayak]

Pls make sure that u can pick up a bunch of stuf in hn3, dont ruin it like hn2

[celest plank]

looks more like cking texas desert or something

[sonic hatch]

most of them just attack me on sight and i havent seen many ways to interact with them otherwise

[celest plank]

you need to give them certain things to befriend them

and do it early in the session cause later they just go at you

[sonic hatch]

ok im about to shower the baker with every cake i see until he stops crying

[narrow gust]

there is some green in the grass tbf

[celest plank]

no give him the recipe book

its in the post office

[celest plank]

there is not 😭😭

[narrow gust]

that will just remind him of his dead wife

[narrow gust]

there is but it's very vague

[untold grotto]

they hate the company you work as a vice president

so they hate you at first too

but you can befriend with them by giving them food or specific items they like

[crude ravine]

Or doing somethings like repairing items

[blissful river]

It needs evergreens and birches back.

[civic totem]

Man I really wish HN3 looked like it did in the old Steam screenshots

And I sort of wish it still had live trees

[celest plank]

everybody wishes

[civic totem]

Like it did in these

[crude ravine]

I think new foliage will be better than it

[near hawk]

When exactly?

[untold grotto]

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[versed ravine]

This was gorgeous

I'm not a fan of literally every tree being dead

It's the start of spring

And evergreens are a thing

[civic totem]

Yeah I agree

[crude ravine]

We need
Hn2 alpha foliage + rbo foliage

[sonic hatch]

makes sense

[celest plank]

bro i agree so much

its early spring snd it feels like some kind of like

i cant even describe it

[versed ravine]

Apocalypse

[celest plank]

yeah 😭

where on earth is spring like this

[tawny yoke]

I mean it's somewhat accurate but it's lacking evergreens its for sure

even though I think there are some pines

there's barely any greenery too but that's early spring I tihkn

[celest plank]

theres still some like

life to it

hn3 feels like some nuclear wasteland idk how to put it

[peak vortex]

Finally played it with my new pc. Guys it's so peak

[rocky siren]

I spent 2-3 hours writing my own hello neighbor movie franchise and got Gemini to rate it and u think I might of made the best script for a video game adaptation

[near hawk]

Not a HN3 thing now is it

[fathom cosmos]

I find it interesting how hn3 is like sort of going for the hello guest type vibe.

[near hawk]

I don't quite think so

[fathom cosmos]

Genuinely enjoyed hello guest back in the day, glad this is similar.

[night vigil]

I really hope it's gonna somewhat like this again. Probably not tho

[near hawk]

They're going for a completely different atmosphere with HN3

And honestly to me it doesn't really even feel like hello guest

[night vigil]

Same. Not at all actually

[ionic bay]

Can you tell me how you did it?

[fathom cosmos]

Idk, there's a sort of vibe to it that gives me hello guest vibes...

[peak vortex]

Where even is that? Canada?

[untold grotto]

i think that might be intentional

[ionic bay]

?

[untold grotto]

due to the misfortunes that have befallen to town, the townss plants no longer flourish just as how the river has dried up

[near hawk]

Might have dragged him

[fathom cosmos]

I mean lemme make one clear example, signed, literally is based off of the vandals from hello guest, I think...

[near hawk]

I mean.
True.

[untold grotto]

its actually worldbuilding in a way

atleast thats how im thinking it

[near hawk]

He carries resemblance but to me he still brings a wholely different feeling.

[untold grotto]

its a reimagining of the vandals

[fathom cosmos]

The big sign yeah is the main distinction.

[night vigil]

Even tho I disagree with the Hello Guest vibe thing, you do have a point. Because the Power Poll things from the Hello Guest and HN2 Alpha Versions are also coming back

[fathom cosmos]

Should also add that the guest himself reappears.

[near hawk]

Yeah but the Guest is very different

Not even resembling a crow in HN3

[fathom cosmos]

Interesting!

[fathom cosmos]

He... does, just makes these erratic awful movements.

His head goes straight up...

[night vigil]

I mean, there's definitely some inspiration taken from Hello Guest for HN3 here and there.

[untold grotto]

he is confirmed to not resembling a crow

[near hawk]

I mean the "beak" kind of can

But the sounds are very different

[fathom cosmos]

What does he represent?

[fathom cosmos]

Yeah.

[near hawk]

Probably his own unique type creature

[untold grotto]

i think instead of hg, its inspired by voronezh and fisherman's vilage, which HG also had inspiration from

[night vigil]

Ah yeah true

[night vigil]

100%

[fathom cosmos]

Yeah but what the heck is this meant to be.

[night vigil]

"It's own type of creature"

[tawny yoke]

just a pointy head probably

[untold grotto]

also did anyone mentioned that this guest is a bit different than the statue one

statue one does not "wear" the can

[tawny yoke]

looks like russia to me to be honest

[tawny yoke]

don't you have to take this vase from the museum in p3

[near hawk]

I think it is Russia actually

[tawny yoke]

or did you mean something else

[untold grotto]

yeah

but in the mural the guest wears this can on its waist

in statue its just like near to him

[fathom cosmos]

Also I need to ask this since it's on my mind. Is the lore from hn2 completely canned because the guest changing appearance to represent something else for instance makes no sense, since he was a crow-like creature back in hn2.

[untold grotto]

not to mention the eye and the ear

[untold grotto]

its a different story

[fathom cosmos]

In what way?

Is it like after hn2?

[untold grotto]

not its like 2 whole different thing

nikita does not know about the hn2 guest

neither the story of hn2

[fathom cosmos]

He probably does, he didn't work on the game though.

I'd imagine he played it.

[tawny yoke]

I think he said that he doesn't really know what hn2 guest is supposed to be

or something along those words

[untold grotto]

we also played it and have no idea about the story, though

[civic totem]

I hope the HN2 lore isn't actually entiterly canned in HN3, because that would be lame

[tawny yoke]

honestly it's really weird

like hn2 is just an unfinished game

[fathom cosmos]

I swear you could piece together the hn2 story.

[tawny yoke]

why is it even canon to be honest

[fathom cosmos]

Somewhat.

[civic totem]

Why shouldn't it be canon

[untold grotto]

then who or what is the guest

[fathom cosmos]

Something to do with the forest protectors was the first theory I think/

.*

[untold grotto]

yeah, emphasis on the "theory"

[civic totem]

It's literally where the Guest makes his first appearence

[tawny yoke]

I mean like parts of it perhaps

[untold grotto]

also nikita didnt event played the part the guest appeared

he only played it on the launch

[civic totem]

And it tells us what happened between Act 2 and Act 3

[fathom cosmos]

Did he confirm he didn't play patch 9?

[untold grotto]

he only said he played it on the launch

eitherway

there is nothing to argue

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[tawny yoke]

yeah that is true but I mostly meant about the cult and the guest differences

[fathom cosmos]

But like, I'd imagine it goes hn1, hn2, back to hn1 then hn3.

[tawny yoke]

because hn2 guest is not the same as hn3 guest right

[untold grotto]

nikita straight up said he does not know

[civic totem]

Yeah that's how it goes

[fathom cosmos]

I mean at the end of the day if the story needs to use the hn2 story Nikita can just ask some devs who worked on hn2 about it and gain a sense of it there.

[fathom cosmos]

He should be the same, right? It is "The Guest".

[untold grotto]

never was a big fan of cult

[tawny yoke]

same here

[untold grotto]

i mean how can he write something he does not know

[tawny yoke]

just seemed like a big filler for me

[untold grotto]

i would prefer the town tradition thingy hn3 has

[civic totem]

More specifically, game-wise, I think it goes: Hide and Seek > HN1 (Act 1) > Search & Rescue > HN1 Act 2 > HN2 > Hello Engineer > HN1 Act 3 > Diaries > HN3