#hn3-discussion
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well of course the lore wont be served on a silver platter
And Theodore's background
obvs that the whole point of lore
if they rly get upset about that its lowkey their own fault
thats what im trying to say im just bad at expalining lol
ye i know
Idk, the golden Apple and mayak for example are pretty much crystal clear with just HN3 imo
For just HN3
bad example but do u get what im trying to say?
its realy not the devs faults at all
i mean tbf you know it anyway so we cant know how its gonna feel like for a newcomer
I mean, for what I've seen, most players will ignore it.
That's shouldn't ne much of a problem though if you're trying to make the game self explanatory
exactly
When i theorise about HN3 i do just think of what is shown there though since it tells its own story
Except for again the Guest and Peterson
Those do need to get explained to some extent
well same but lostys of people dont whant to have think (anoyingly so ITS THE BEST PART in my opinion) about it poeples attention spam is pathetic theses days
i think im just other thinking it the devs know what they are doing i have full faith in them
could u tell me what u think @near hawk
Oh, hi Nikita, I've been wanting to ask you this for a while, but you've rarely been online, so I'll ask now if Hello Neighbor 2 Alpha 1 was a full-fledged version that was supposed to be released like Hello Guest and HN Alpha 2. When I played it, I saw a lot of facts that confirmed this and those that refute it.
It looks pretty awesome
thx
ye
im trying to learn how to 3d animate
i 3d animate
nice!
The shot of I think Forest dweller hand go over the family painting i especially like.
thx
aaron looking at his child self
Place of reflection vibes...
yeah
(place of reflection is an animation the Dweller does when he sees some placeholder blocks around the map for context)
oh actualy didnt know that lol
I wonder what those blocks could be in the future...
They feel very eerie
how can i see this
didnt even know ts
lol
Ughh can't find it here
thats fine
I found this old prototype/inpiration of the animation
yo guys can you see this message
No
yep
Almost a month eh...
lol
time flies
Hopefully we get a shot of the new character soon...
i lowkey wanna see one of the images for a new ui
same
speaking of which what do yall think itll look like
Will you be explaining the game in more detail for players later?
i think itll more resemble a hn1 alphas ui
wait what new character i havent been on in a while
my only theory is the throwing circle will be a golden apple
theres a new character confirmed
but we dont know who it is
and havent seen it
Nikita said they're adding a new one
He was part of core narrative
Maybe
Right here
are they confirmed to be "he"
so guys is he like replacing iris
When is the expected date of Devlog 5
when ever the next build releases
not anytime soon
atleats a couple of months
It was a Mandela effect actually.

tbh theres no female character it could be any way
I can share a bit of a concept art I did for UI. Now I’m trying to assemble it in the engine.
that's actually crazy
👀
ooh
Yees

Here’s the plan how “notes” section more or less going to look like.
It’s going to be like a big board which you can pan around, zoom in/out.
This is just an image and target/reference.
guest and "guest?"
Hey Nikita when is the devlog 5 ?
another 2 guest confirmation
its funny how slip the comunity is on it lol
im excited beyond comprehension 🥹
i love how u can view all the notes like that!!!
I'm curious what that "folklore" bit means
I couldn't quite understand how it worked
still could relate to the Folklore Guest and the actual existing Forest Dweller Guest though folklore exist as a different category so im not so sure actually
interesting
Nothing would be better than gossiping Jacob and ruining his reputation...
couldnt of said it better my self
well the guest objectives might be like
doing the festival
or something
i think its more of the townfolk gossiping about you
and guest? ones is just about forest dweller
spreading information about you and what you do
Basically imagine something like GTA’s map, but instead of the top down view of the city, you have bunch of notes, grouped by themes
well this is notes, not quests
Nikita When is the 5th Devlog ??
quit asking big guy
how would you entre it?
wth, thats great!!!
huh wait, what do you mean by direct speech of the character
it might be like the notes they write
Are there special notes for each character?
quotes from the characters themselves maybe
bro allis is like so huge
even though they dont actually speak ingame
2 guests the mystery..
like "i wish i could be as brave as quantum rider" is a direct speech i think
This is how objectives going to look like (more or less).
True true
Hmm and folklore is a different thing from any Guests too
this looks really good actually
and citizens?!
i like it
i love how the color palette stays
am i in heaven
this looks alot like conspiracy very nice
this solves my worries is on about eariler remember
with the lore and new players
it looks like a bulletin board this is so insanely cool
Nikita, can you tell me the name of the next version, or is it not for now?
It looks good
also its like the first time nikita used "Peterson"
This looks nice
wrong its perfect!!!!
He used it like twice before or so
It's probably alpha 1
No he used it a bunch actually
as in like in game
Ohh
That looks so cool
So cool and lorely
how about the ui of inventory
did it or will it changed in the next build
speaking of which i hope the inventory will be more unique
Me too
What's up with the whole "Guest" and "Guest?" thing. That is so interesting
Ok, let me share some other elements, then. Here’s intermediate screen that you have before choosing to watch all notes or objectives.
When button is pressed, you’ll get initially this screen and then you can switch to the full notes or objectives view
As for the inventory, it’s going to be something along those lines.
ooo fancy
woah 7 slots
bro nikita stop this is so cool
This is peakness...
No he should continue
This is just concept, don’t look too much in to amount of slots
No we love cool stuff
The idea of the sketchy HN1 styled icons coming back matches pretty well with how the GUI concepts look I like it
Yeah... but the character should totally have more than 4 slots
nah it would be to op
i think 5 is a solid amount
ye
So they can't be the same
Well it doesn't have to be like 7 slots. 5 would be enough
I hope the guest is less annoying
but i also like 4 slots because it forces you to prioritize items over each other and be more strategic
agreed
about what you take
hmm ye but then u also have to move junk out the way soem times like in the mayak
i mean its not that big of a deal
either way i think any of those otions are fine not to much bet not to little
5 is the perfect amount of slots in my opignion
The yellow sign in the upper right corner will be showing your current status:
- Friendly/Public area (Blue sign)
- Trespassing (Yellow sign)
- Guest area (Red triangle)
i really liked the hello guest-hn2 era inventory
that makes way more sense than illuminated and dark areas
i like the adition of the trespassing sign will there be more signs in the future
i miss the blue signed icon
I know it’s just a concept but does this imply plans for the characters having some kind of dialogue?
If so, would it only be said in the notes? Or would they have a text bubble near them, or would they be voice acted?
I low-key wished they’d continue off 2
I doubt this is gonna happen but will the next build be on consoles?
We currently trying to figure this out 
Ohhhh okay
wait so is there a chance the characters will talk 😭
thats insane
I wonder if we'll see other folklore outside of Guest, because of the folklore section there
Same
that would be incredible if the neighbor talks
good point
Armen Taylor...
theres so much to theorize about solely out of this
imagine they talk and its just the voices nikita set for them in tomodachi life
I don’t see Armen Taylor working as well for specifically HN3 Neighbor? But that’s personal opinion
Chance of them having actual speech are close to zero. But some sort of info pop up with a set of icons or simple text, which then going to be saved in notes, is closer to what actually going to be.
imagine it gets voice by michael kovach
I just realised we gonna get a hello neighbour movie,the 3rd game and the 3rd season of raven brooks within like 3 years
Oh, Aw shucks
that's definitely better in my opinion, it would feel really weird for characters to just talk in a hello neighbor game
peak
makes sense
WTRB season 3 will release this year
i mean
for the mockup of the in-game ui would it really say 'neighbor 😃' next to everyone else's somewhat more nuanced names
do wonder what they sound like in tomodachi life though. and their birthdays 🤔
i mean its good cuz long dialogs wouldnt be that good i imagined more of like some voicelines
tho the pop up thing would be cool
I can imagine just reusable mumbling speech with a text box and that gets added to your notes after
Bring the report 13 to your father
It should release in at least the end of the year because s2 came out 2 years ago they got only 5 episodes in season 5 and there like 12-14 minutes but they might double if there is only 5
Yes, its going to be short pop ups, that will help player better understand what character is going through or trying to achieve.
Wrong person
i think you replied to the wrong fella
I did
Hello i have a question.
do i have to bring report 13 to my father
Yep, that’s why there is “direct speech” thingy in the notes 🙂
Idk how
i think thats a really cool idea tbh
That or you starve so like
bro hello neighbor 3 is so good
discord just does that from my experience because it's evil and hates you
couldnt agree more its haping up to be my fave game
How many more alphas is there gonna be
We need to have all the text replaced by icons
pre alpha feels so barebones now 😭
oh yeah is the next build going to be called pre alpha 2 or alpha 1
Yeah lol
if there alpha 1 then there will be alpha 2
i wont be able to play it the same 🙁
Thanks
alr it was
Raven Brooks cypher language 2.0
lol
I love how Hello Neighbor 3 is kinda breaking the unspoken rules set in place by the other games, yet maintaining the Hello Neighbor feel
couldnt agree more
p2 has more HN feeling (cuz escape from town = escape from neighbour house in act 2)
i love the potemtial of the comunication
You guys defiantly gotta add more to do when you finish the story because I’m stilly finish hello neighbour 1 but when I finished 2 a year ago I just quit because there was nothing to do you should add side quest or diffrent modes to do
agreed
Unrelated but it's been a while since Nikita talked about that new character we haven't seen. I wonder when we'll get to see that?
btw nikita forget show any teasers of new character
could we see the soundtrack any time soon?
heck, i also thinked abt new char
dont you think this implies the second guest is actually a physical character that you can interact with
(unless its just information on the guest festival and stuff)
You guys should add Andy’s room from Toy Story if you know ball
My brain still grasping two guests.
The idea is to eventually have many story-lines around the town, which you can explore in parallel or after the core story
as far as i know he doesnt own the rights to it (he didnt to hn1's) so its not up to him when/if it gets posted
this is so awesome
Will the next build be called alpha 1?
Is that mean the fake one is Nicky
that would be awesome if its done correcly
i wanna get my fingernails on the next alpha
could we see the soundtrack being published with future builds
The main idea was:
There is a non-physical urban legend
And there's someone who acts like this legend.
But apparently the 2 guests are there along with a seperate folklore thing
PA it's not called a PA1 so 100% alpha 1
It's not Nicky btw
He has no reason to turn evil
And like
he might be aaron
nicky is wrapped up
Thank you so much Thats my biggest issues with 1 and 2 and something I saw in another horror game was different costumes these are just suggestions to keep the hype of the games and not just have YouTubers use mods and die out quickly
i wanna hear more things about the butterfly effect
nikita are we gonna have new foliage in the next build
What if Guest is not evil, though? 
That is fascinating
hello Nikita
Interesting
I mean, he kills people doesnt he
hello all
Okay its Nicky
Does the neighbour like Toy Story and have Andy’s room from Toy Story
And dress up as buzz light year
Can’t say for sure. But we are pretty close to the whole foliage replacement
my theory (idk if it as been proven wrong or smth) is that he is just protecting is home or smth
But... he kills people
he's sidetracking us
aaron*
I did think there's a good one but not the physical one...
Just kidding BTW
wait no yeah the guest prolly isnt evil in the sense he knows and intends to do evil
Or like not the one that chases us
🤯
assuming its aaron
What if the guest is the neighbours woody who didn’t like Toy Story 3
some people still believe aaron is not the guest😮💨
He kills people though
hold on what if hese messing with us to make us think the guest isnt evil?
I doubt that can be not by intention
well there could be many reasons for that but id say he's evil if he wants to do evil and like is fully aware of what he's doing
theyre prolly believing hn2 guest is not aaron
So like do you mean he's mentally ill
the guest that town worshipped is still a good guy
if its aaron then he's really like mentally absolutely cooked so it would (kind of?) make sense
Yeah but he save trinty and her team and he save arron and nicky
i mean ye no sane person would do allis
after aron made the deel
prob. but in hnvr and hnas a guest and aaron connection is heavily hinted at
thats what i said
nikita can you tell us the entire lore of hello neighbor 3
i'd say that's kiiinda evil
Come on people, just because he KILLS people doesn't mean he's a bad person said nobody ever
is devlog 5 gonna release sooner than 5 months? 😦
charge your phone bro 😭
Or maybe Nikita's trying to say the urban legend isn't actually evil...
This was hours ago I’m on mobile and pc 😉
If that's the case then that would be evidence towards a theory
is the making the festival coming back anytime soon
I need to know is the neighbour a fan of Toy Story who has Andy’s room from Toy Story and dress as buzz light year it’s a theory we need to know
wasnt the person he replied to talking about the forest dweller
Maybe the Guest is the friends we made along the way
it'll be released same time with alpha 1/pre alpha 2 so
(me)
Yeah but i'm saying he might be screwing with us like that
maybe we can have devlogs in between new builds
and theyre shorter
and not as complex
like devlog 1.5
yea
mini devlogs
short and compact videos that have small updates
Devlog alphas lol
Also Nikita, not sure if you can answer this but is "Forest Dweller" an internal name or is it actually an name for the Guest in universe?
Nikita r u able to tell us if we will learn a little more about the main character? Or too soon to say?
Is hello neighbour 3 gonna continue hello neighbour2
True
no
Nikita did say this at one point iirc
i wouldnt want it even if that isnt true cause imo its better to reveal everything at once when its all done
They're separate
Could you maybe share a small image of how it looks at the current moment?
genuinely curious to know whether the next build is going to be called alpha 1 or pre alpha 2
I just need my Toy Story answer
I have this idea, to have a devlog to cover main topics, questions and confusions that become evident after pre Alpha.
But currently have barely any time and got to prioritize project itself
as (probably) pointless as it is it'd be really cool to eventually see the vandals unmasked. i remember nikita saying once he had an image from pinterest of what he'd imagine covered would look like
The Pre-Alpha isn't called "Pre-Alpha 1", so...
I like having absolute cinema rather than regular but more vids
yeah, i was wondering why it skipped that and we had a pre-alpha 2
maybe Adam can edit some devlogs when the team is busy
next build is gamma 3
I made a drawing of hello neighbour 1 cover of the neighbour dressed as buzz light year holding a shovel in Andy’s room
he did a great job with the other hn videos
I would love this. Or at the very least just like, what Nikita imagines them like unmasked would be cool to see.
will you guys "fix" befriending with the forest dweller and the neighbor, was that ever intended because you previously have said you wouldnt be able to befriend wit them
Do you have any images of what the new foliage looks like at the moment that you can share?
pretty sure Adam left sadly
hes a freelancer
He only said that about Theodore iirc
Not the guest
true ive never noticed
But yeah
and both the neighbor and the guest is "monster"
i think befriending those 2 should stay only if they're going to change the events of things
and maybe help you out
not a debate it is literally just a singular question
I rewatched raven brooks today I really like it
i dont really like the idea of the neighbor constantly being an evil villain without reason
ohh mb
Guys please
We have an internal video production department at tB, but It will take more time to sync with them in term of style, than made the devlog myself.
I got an idea yesterday and today to make a roller coaster of the hello neighbour act 3 house with the train tracks
Oh myyy
We don't use our channels to talk badly about people, please stay on topic
Are we gonna see any other characters from others games that arent the neighbour or guest
i havent seen this channel so active in a while
the new ui concept is awesome though
Don’t give comment on story, sorry
We haven’t seen it yet?
Yes we have
Scroll up
Look at Nikita's messages
i do really hope hn3 explores deep into each character, even the non-important stuff like birthdays or like... i dunno. stuff like that
amen
I mean, I kinda like being able to do that.
I think it should stay, but it must be harder
That’s alright and speaking of characters I love the designs you guys did on the characters making them look cartoony and special this is defiantly gonna be the best hello neighbour instalment
Each character already have pretty deep lore (including birthdays), but for now it’s just inside our documentation
I wondered if the guest would be interactavle more, or whether he is just an antagonist, yet again it is still early days
Does the new foliage look closer to the overpaints? Or does it look different?
oh sweet
i love how hello neighbor 3 doesnt have like a ton of content but the content that's already there has just so much to it on its own
Hope one has the same birthday as me (11th March)
Imagine if you play on the date of their birthday irl they get a party hat ingame
I wonder when we will see new character sneak peek 👀
One things you guys should do is give hints and stuff because for hello neighbour 1 and 2 I had to look at tutorials on YouTube from how hard it is
I saw a face on a poster in pre alpha that was scribbled over
I dont think so because the game date is 29th February
Upcoming weeks was said but seems like it changed
He had a beard and hat so I assumed it was someone new whether important or not idk
That was Isaac’s old design before he was even a character
Old Isaac design it’s not anything new
Or well, it was just an idea
Ohh ok
He’s so happy
rip isaac jr isaac sr theory
Adam has a freelance videomaker role on the server.
Sometimes he comes by and answers questions about previous videos.
You never know if you'll see him making an HN video again 😉
He did the imbir thing for a2 right
oh cool, good to know he’s still here
I was only gonna ask about hn3 because idk to much about devs but why does the neighbours house get demolished in hello neighbour act 3
Probably a storm
Adams narrating was peak btw. He was quite literally perfect for the role, so it would be amazing to see or hear him again at some point in the near future
i mean why
Aaron?!
/j
Golden Apple Park and stuff
gaap accident is on 1984
why would they randomly get revenge of something happened decades ago
I hope all the lore is kinda hard to find but not as hidden the minigames in fnaf 3
In the books they also graffiti it and destroy it
seems not the case in the context of hn3 though
Yeah true
Wasn't that the cult
Each character already have pretty deep lore (including birthdays),
Imagine having a channel here with each one's lore
Would be cool tbh
Ohhhhhh
I low-key feel bad for the neighbour because in raven brooks his damm brother dies and gets incenrated his wife and daughter die within a few days of eachother and also got some random kid breaking in his house
Yeah but you could argue in the games the townfolk might destroy or burn it but idk for sure
or maybe some fanfic like tinyfox did
so basically the butterfly effect is gonna work like this: character needs tape to fix something. tape buble pops up over the characters head. instead of meeting with an npc, you can give a tape to him and you prevent him from meeting that npc, which changes the world and certain outcomes?
Yeah I would love to make it happen
I'm really curious about the new foliage because each foliage style we've seen so far has given off completely different feels.
Proto 1 - Similar coming of age feel that RBO had.
Proto 2 - felt kinda dead Which honestly worked really effectively in my opinion.
Proto 3/Pre-Alpha - Definitely had that coziness but not really much eeriness.
We should make a petition for them to add a buzz light year costume for the neighbour
I would love to see some sort of like character document thing for each of the characters that goes into the smaller more fun details as opposed to the bigger lore
Yeah, like hobbies and stuff would be cool to see
Then the overpaints gave off that "Ghost town" look perfectly!
And finally, my personal favourite, the old steam image foliage, it felt the most spooky and abandoned looking, it genuinely felt like a place that has been completely lost to time and had a massive disaster happen to it.
They should make a new villian for hello neighbour 3 because we only get the neighbour or crow face because they are both awsome but Thats the only villians we need a really cool one like them for 3
I like the details Nikita gave in the devlogs, like Issac’s dream is a mechanic, covered hates being stared at
I Have a question, Will we see patch 9 mechanics as it serves the direction of the game in my view
Crowface is not a thing in HN3
isaacs dream is not mechanic from what i recall
might have gotten it a bit mixed up but it was mechanic related
Crowface is the cult, not Guest.
And Guest in HN3 isn't even resembling a crow
rather it was a description for jacob "the mechanic with a dream"
I’m pretty sure he is or the guest idk but there’s defentily something siths a beak
The thing is just a hallucinations
I still have hope that it might actually turn into some sort of Majoras Mask kinda Notebook.
Like a character sheet
Ahh that’s right
and we finally got to see what was his dream
I just watched the series and crowface is what I got used to
it was "being brave as much as quantum rider"
Here's my ranking of each visual style in HN3.
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Old steam images
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Overpaints
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Prototype 1
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Prototype 3/Pre Alpha
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Prototype 2
But we still do need a new villian
I'm not talking about the thing.
And it's not exactly a hallucination either unless for wtrb
a new villain when they still didnt explain the previous one
i dont see thats happening
I think he is the embodiment of fear
and then ends with the bang 
nickys personification of fear
Agree
Yeah, but it's not as much a hallucination as it is a metaphorical representation of it that characters don't see
Yeah Thats the thing we need a proper one not just one that appears as a shadow for 5 seconds and never see again but then we do just as a useless cameo or gag
Turn the act 3 house into a transformer Thats the new villian

Where did everyone go after I said that
I really hope they use patch 9 mechanisms
what are they
havent really went to forest that much in patch 9
They should make a mode Thats a sceincetolgy run but in the neighbours house
Hiding in Bushes, Hammer to put boards down (basically anywhere) That's pretty much it
Yes that's what I mean
The whole "Hiding in the bushes" part I agree with, that would be pretty cool. Idk about the Hammer tho
The hammer is pretty cool for me
2 guests ? starting to think the god guest could be real
or another guest
I assumed the god guest was just the guest but the town worshipped it without knowing what it really was
or maybe they were tricked into worshipping it
The "God" Guest
Final boss
The "Fake" Guest
The "God" Guest is just a legend. A legend the townsfolk basically believe in. The "Fake" Guest is just an impersonator. No idea who it could be, but Aaron seems to be the most thrown around theory
Just wondering is HN3 The Finel Game or we are gonna have a backwards to The past again
The fact that there are two different objective options called Guest is making believe that there are going to be two guests roaming around.
probably final mainline game
yes
i doubt its god guest but maybe another real 'guest'
It could be why they are wearing the guest costume because it’s a disguise but just a theory
so in future builds we should maybe expect 2 'guests'
I think gameplay wise that would be so hard lol two guests running after the player 
this reminds me of alan wake 2
unless other 'guest' is chill
I feel like hn3 should get a rewind animation for the reset button to make it more seamless
reminds me of another tinybuild game, pathologic 2, with all of the connecting nodes, (a similar game actually)
in the thoughts section
That would be cool
when i first seen new ui concept art for a sec instead of restart day i saw reset day
Oh, this is just like the system in KCD2. I love it!
Would be cool if that one ran away like in hello guest but didn’t hunt u after
Ok, so my theory here is that "Guest" is the statue, the original thing, whereas "Guest?" is the evil one who kills people.
THIS IS SO PEAK
Section buttons this is so awesome
hi
Hi
I mean, he literally kills ppl, thats literally the textbook definition of evil 😭
It's probably more like
You gather information about supposed god
I doubt its like second physical guest
though why its not in folklore
Its like you collect info about the guest who kills ij the woods and the one he tries to mimic
or then if guest is seperate what even is in folklore
Yeah thats a good point but maybe he deserves a separate page
Like in folklore it would be something else
Maybe something more about the traditions
And not the guest itself
Like the things surrounding the guest
But not him
If that makes sense
could involve town history maybe?
like the Lucy Yi stuff or the disappearances?
Could that count as folklore
i mean isnt the term "folklore" something completely different
I am not sure how much of the anomalous storm thingy storyline is left in this game
But I think it could count as folklore perhaps
like rumors relating to the incidents I mean
Oh yeah Lucy Yi could be that then I suppose
its storm aftermath i believe
myths about the GAAP
beliefs about who's behind the disappearances
I'm interested for more folklore If we do get more
Then the folklore section could maybe tell us more about the storm in new colors perhaps
What kind of legends there can be
Like maybe people expected ir
oh like they believe 'the guest killed lucy yi'
Like it was their own end of the workd of some kind
though that would still go as in guest section wouldnt it
I wonder if there will be more mythical characters
Even though that kinda drifts off the main course
look at how the image itself shows it
these aren't neat divided areas like the tab buttons suggest
omething could easily go in multiple categories
and pressing one of those side things just sends you to that one label
Oh thats true it could be like
A note belongs to two sections
What are those red markings
Probably like new notes
Theres gossips section also
Not seen in the tab
so the Gossips/Folklore Tab could be right next to the Guest Tabs
oh well i thought gossips and folklore was seperate
i think that was like an alternate name for folklore
I think they might be the same because of the lack of a proper section
Yeahh that makes sense
also
more proof something can be in multiple categories
the CITIZENS tab
why would citizens have a unique tab when one exists for each person and Raven Brooks itself
Really hyped for the "Tools" section. I really hope it will actually be useful
is The Map Going to be Bigger And the places of the houses are gonna change?
Or will it stay the same?
More or less the same-ish.
Nikita, are there any other renders of the HN3 characters that you can share with us? Asking this because you sent a render of Mr. Peterson last month
theres a lot
in this artists instagram
tB account have reposted them
Well that is better for not repeating the errors like changing the map in Alpha
Huh...
oh theres a lot of renders
only if we got the png versions of them without the background
Yeah that's what I want
I kinda wanna know more behind the scenes related stuff like the process of making the models, planning and building the map, etc.
is the art style gonna be the same or will it get some changes ?
Maybe after the game is fully done. They could make a full documentary about the making of the game.
dude im just wondering im not hating on it
It's gonna stay the same
its a good art style
Art style stays 🙂
i like it its a good art style so its good that it stays in my opignion
i think its gonna be more polished cuz it unfinished rn
i mean its still early in devlopment
can't imagine why
I figured honestly since most of the characters already got finished models and the object models are looking pretty close to finalized (if they aren't already)
it also just matches the story we're slowly getting as well
pretty much the game's visuals are looking more and more like a coherent style and it wouldn't make sense to change it drastically
What you mean by “better”? What you think needs to be improved?
i think he means more polished but im not sure tho
i think he means that some assets look unfinished because they are
Is the "Guest?" crowlike (Because its more like a beak)
And GUEST isn't a crow? Is this what you meant nikita? By saying he isn't a crow? Or were you talking about both of these things Guest and "guest?"
will there be some kind of ui that shows our relationship with npcs
I suspect what nikita meant by saying the guest isn't a crow, I think he was talking about the guest.
But "GUEST?" is crow-like actually
i think its just the guest being GUEST and forest dweller being GUEST?
There's still an unused guest model
fits with guest and "guest"
that folder is not in pre alpha though
like they removed it from the project
Oh so ig the guest is just the myth
i assume that Guest folder was meant to have old FD meshes
guys alpha 1 tommorow /j
I just wanna know if nikita was talking about the guest as in the pictures of him around town not being crow-like
And maybe the one that is "Guest?" actaully is crow-like
i think its both being not crow like
"Dont mind expanded inventory" no we NEED an expanded inventory lol
new ui tuff 🔥
Hey Nikita, why is the current atmosphere and testing grounds so different? To be honest, the old atmosphere was a bit better
since like if guest is not crow like someone who is acting like him wouldnt be crow like too
Ooh works in progress look interesting 
I suspected the meaning of him changed over time and thats why hes not a crow but no its more like a retcon
@echo hull man
the UI concept is looking really good tbh
but also not a retcon
the notes thing is cool, reminds me of alan wake 2 and outer wilds
Would you consider hnvr canon as part of nikita's timeline?
2 guests?
Part of nikita's story?
everything is its own thing for me
yep
the guest
forest dweller
What did he mean by this?
Forest dweller is imitating a twisted version of what the guest is supposed to be (A being thats all good and protects the town)
one suggestion I would make for the board UI is to maybe make it look a bit more like a chalkboard perhaps
This guest is VERY different from the ones we seen in the other games
I guess he DID outright say distinctions between the Guest and "The Guest" is important
so I guess it isn't much of a spoiler
since we don't know who either of them are
but he acts exactly the same, the neighbor also looks very different
forest dweller aka guest? or "guest" is presumably someone acting like the urban legend, the guest
the other one like kidnaps this one kills
Except that hes not imitating it, this "Guest" is a twisted and corrupted version of what its supposed to be
what if the real guest is the one from hn2 and hello guest and is the bird and the one in hn3 is a fake and they fight in the ending
Well in nikita's story fake guest has always been fake guest there was never a real one
this is actually how the guest concept works in different medias too,
they are guest, but not like the urban legend one
I still think it's interesting how even though we now definitely know there are Two Guests, it doesn't change anything because we don't know who EITHER of them are
and we don't know which one we have
NOt really becauses the guest being worshipped in town is more like a diety of all good saving others
or maybe the one from Hn2 is the fake, since its a "lesser" version, a bit more toned down
is the one ingame the "real" one?
its ravenbrooks religion
Aaron the Forest Dweller truly
what if the real guest is the one from hn2 and hello guest and is the bird and the one in hn3 is a fake and they fight in the ending??? coulkd this happpen
I thought the work in progress ping was going to be the new character Nikita talked about a few weeks ago, not this that we already saw like 4 hours ago :(
since the in game one didnt appeared until 2008
Its obviously the visitor
and the guest in urban legends is has been around 1800s
Oh wait, Nikita could totally use The Visitor as the name for the Fake Guest...
We're not seeing the real one either because well the guest is a god that protects the town and is worshipped.
Whoever "guest?" is? Is a crazy person and its probably aaron because its that obvious
he's had that name in storage since it didn't fit
but since the Guest we know of ingame came into town LATER...
as much as i would love that, i dont think the HN2 Guest will appear in HN3
we still don't know what happened to aaron
iont like it
honestly nice seeing the expanded inventory being considered
Guest and Guest? probably refers to the urban legend guest and the forest dweller that dressed up as Guest
4 feels like not enough
Nikita is absolutely just sitting back and watching this conversation unfold
Thankfully 😭 ✌️
Book/hnvr guest is way cooler
"oh god why did I say there were two of them"
lmao
I do wonder if the inventory is too small and like if the items are recognizable enough
i for one really like the design of the notes and objectives board, idk why but it fits with alma and especially the ornate chalk on the edges
"now im too scared to tell them it was an accidental copy paste..."
This sketchy style reminds me of the HN1 Inventory Icons.
and also the ones from HGP, back when they were 2d
It would be cool if it was like hello guest/hn2 inventory system, or if there was some kind of inventory to store items and you can only have 4 in your hotbar
2nd item, no clue... it kind of looks like a potato masher?? but the rest are pretty identifiable imo
i mean one of them had a question mark at the end so its most likely not.a coincidence
flashlight
im more reminded of like the item icons from the lockers that were still 2d
yeah i was joking
oh
think its a flashlight
I think I would add a slight flashlight glow to make it more easily identifiable? but tbh thats just me, since most flashlights in games as icons dont have a gap in the top
"Direct speech of the character" is interesting
you know like the beam
I guess that means in our notes, we'll get actual dialog instead of ingame
which is fine, since it's an excuse to write things the characters would actually say
hello the guest and the guest?
guys I found it out... I think, we need to deliver this report to our dad
just a hunch
im still somewhat bummed the caution tape didnt make it onto hn3 final design
I think Nikita would need to confirm this.
Hey Nikita, do we need to Bring The Report #13 To Your Father?
I think this image is a bit too vague about that
these objectives just aren't clear enough
jokes aside for a sec, the "Close" and "All Notes" buttons really remind me of psychonauts???
oh my god i just realized that, i just saw one and my subconscious completed the others as to what the quests were in pre-alpha
theyre all the same quests lmao
lmao yeah
Wow thanks for the important lore
I wouldn't have figured it out without that confirmation
👍
unless there's a hidden meaning in his response......
will we see more of DadHoffman in game or will he just be as like unseen character for a while
yeah
I mean... if the game is still centered around report 13 and trying to find novak, he is an important character since he is the motive why Alma is in Raven Brooks
I want more of this guy
its the jesus himself
so we'll probably see more of him
can anyone give me a tldr of the hn3 storyline? I haven't been paying attention to HN since Hello Neighbor 2
Can the guest ai be fixed when you have to explore the golden apple? I think in such a cramped area its a bit annoying when hes being violently aggressive and its a common complaint.
Like make the guest more like the hello guest ai only specifically in GAAP?
I mean I was in this server when HN2 was in mid development (literally around the same stage as HN3 is now, different account though)
maybe I’m just too crazy about that game but this feels SO Alan Wake 2 to me, it reminds me of Saga’s mind place so much
i know this is still being worked on but
i dont like it
its just a no from me
oh I read that, I just thought there was more to it
i see it
Will we see the alma's father, for example, when we finish the game or by sending report 13?
I really enjoy it but also alan wake 2 is my favorite game so take that with a grain of salt
yessss
guys, John doesnt like the game... we have to cancel it
ah ok
well there's some bits here and there with the characters, but the general main story is that, at least what we know of so far
its a crowded one, so i would say there wouldnt be a "tldr explanation"
all powerful john has cancelled Hello Neighbor 3
would not say there wouldn't?
ah
but thats the whole point of a tldr
my plan worked!/j
something thats too long and complex to read, so you shorten it down
the one mr apple posted is a tldr i would say
i wouldnt be surprised if it is
raven brooks is bright falls
Raven Falls, Bright Brooks 
Nikita, great job for the UI
hey turismo you sent it twice
ui so good bro had to post it again
bro sent the same thing
Huh
Nikita is just really proud of the UI guys dont worry
Bro it a raids
low-term memory loss
Just a concept
huh??😭
lets do it again
third times the charm
I know, but it's pretty good
Nikita are you ok?
Why did they send it twice lol
mabye a bug?
dementia arc?
UI was so good they had to send it twice
No lol
nikita we want more
send it one more time I think we need to see it one more time just to make sure
bro really reposted
give us more update on UI
So it can change but its very good
got sent twice
does this mean we might get two hello neighbour 3's, cuz they'll make the game twice
we need a third repost
i wanna see that ui yeea
honestly this might be the first case of a hello neighbor game actually getting better with each alpha released
honestly bright falls is a great reference when designing small towns imo
it's a REALLY gorgeous looking town
give us another repost so its 3 cus hn3
hes really proud of it
everyone knows about the hello neighbor one alphas and the hello neighbor 2 alphas are all over the place but when i play each version of this i see it kinda coming together
UI so nice it was sent twice
Nikita, thanks for making HN3
broski spittin rhymes
ui so damn awesome it had to be posted more than once
ngl the music in hn3 and hn 2 is so fire
He deleted it
music has always been easily the best part of this franchise
i can bet the game will let you drive out of raven brooks back to the ga company which would be a separate "act"
who up reworking they UI rn?
IM NOT SAYING THSI TO BE MEAN ITHE MUSIC IS JUST THAT GOOD
What does it mean!!!
I know lol
hidden meanings! LORE!!!!
the "guest" did it lol
Hello Nikita
this is one of my favorite tropes in games
Bro nikita
where you get an anticlimactic ending by just leaving
who wouldnt wanna live there theres enough coffee for everyone
Hi Nikita the GOAT
Nikita is a human
true love that in fnaf into the pit
Bro this indigo man just ragebait
NIKITA THE BEST DEV ON PLANET
Nikita a human theory?
My life wouldn't be so good without HN3
nikita be like: hello neighbor
i mean thats probably gonna be just 1 of the many endings
same bro
The Neighbor's Goat
coffee world vs golden apple amusement park
ty for reading all my messages, it means a lot to me
oh hey we both have our pfps as hn3 guest
maybe they’re competitors
Sneak peak is so much fun!
yall think hello neighbor 3 can beat gta 6 for goty at the game awards
though i think nikita have confirmed that there would not be an ending like just leaving the town
Too bad, it would be funny
yeah i agree
Yeah
i think prototype 2 or 1 had a ending like that
so aura, credits to @slender sonnet
Great art!
wowza
wow
isnt the entire point to leave the town
and bring report 13
I think like
no i mean like
They mean like the trope of just leaving right away
oh yeah
Cool trope
It’s funny I like when games just let you say no and leave
honestly that trope would be really funny with the previous storyline
outlast should have done that
yes i did draw that!!
actually what was that about. was the game's plot actually going to be that the player just goes to raven brooks just for fun or was that a placeholder
it was a placeholder
they previously had the idea of player might be being blank state
but then came up with the Almira
id like to imagine the 100 things to do before you die book was written by the neighbor to lure the player in
😫 🍴 😫 🍴 😫 😫
?
honestly I much prefer that since I always like player characters more when they have a set personality
you must be really hungry!
thing no. 1: visit ravenbrook
I don't care about blank slate player characters
Nikita when is devlog 5
He doesn't know
And he doesn't give release dates
Probably in months
I hope its soon
idk if you've played prototype 3 but that's literally what happens
the player just reads a book that tells them to go to a ghost town so they visit ravenbrooks
love the bigass DONE box idk why it’s funny to me
lmao
the #27 being massive is funny too
hones
tly
I hope the sections in that info tab is going to be slowly unlocked
Like instead of jacob, janusz, peterson, guest etc it would be "????"

and then the player would slowly unlock it by learning about the characters
I’d assume so yeah
also I wonder if characters are going to talk in some way
because there are notes named "direct speech from the character"
YES yeah I was so curious about that
Probably just text boxes if they do cuz I doubt they would get fully voiced dialogue
i think I’d prefer if it was just boxes too
yeah that would be probably the most fitting thing to do
It would be fun if some of those notes would be misleading
I think it’s kinda like that in outer wilds but it’s been a while since I’ve tried to play that game so it’s not super fresh in my mind so idk
like if one of the characters mentions location of a certain object
and then its wrong because the said character thought the object was there
but it was moved
dude man I loved outer wilds so much
I am so glad they are taking inspiration from it
the session mechanic is really nice
I need to sit down one of these days and actually beat it I’ve tried a few times but I haven’t really committed to it yet
idk how it would be implemented without full voice acting but overhearing two characters having a conversation and using that as evidence could be cool
Could jsut be speech bubbles above their heads or smth
yes yes
I am so glad with how this game is coming out
literally brought back faith into this franchise
I was a little mixed on the addition of the objectives in the pre alpha originally but the page of notes and quotes is so sick to me I really really love that concept whenever games do that
when I saw the objective I found it kind of really useful in a sense like
it's a nice little kickstart
just to get the player going
and I think in the future tasks will be less of
"enter this certain room to find certain something"
and more worded in a way to encourage exploring
no it was a good idea but the implementation rubbed me the wrong way but seeing the new UI it’s clear to me it was jsut kinda a placeholder thing
golden apple logo being tiny is frying me
oh yeah that's true for me too
like it wasn't that bad for me
but I imagined they would maybe replace it with some kind of notebook?
but this is honestly better what they are doing
basing where you have to go on random notes and dialogue is so much more interesting than “list of 4 locations go now” LOL, the reason I was put off by it was cuz I really liked exploring in prototype 3. the system in the concept art is the best possible outcome for me tho it looks so fun
I really hope the little notes are movable
exactly man
like I still explore sometimes in this game
like not so long ago I just found the thingy that says about undelivered package for janusz
nikita play alan wake 2 and my life is yours
YES
or lowkey
its giving me shadows of doubt
it's like a detective sim and there was a big board too
you had to like establish connections between notes it's really nice
I need to peep this
it was like this
that’s how the mind place worked in Alan wake 2 it was one of my fav parts abt that game
Hell yes
I'm gonna be honest I played the original Alan Wake and that game kind of seemed like disney movie the game for me 😭
I need to try second part
Alan wake 1 has some fun concepts with kinda iffy execution imo but I love 2 sm
i definitely think he has given the amount of similarities of hn3 with alan wake
i do too lowkey I jsut wanted an excuse to use the gif
thats fair
man I really hope gathering information will be really fun in this game
like little sneaking eavesdropping etc
Given the amount of unfinished houses in comparison to the little amount of residents I think it would be cool to be able to enter homes and read notes from people who used to live in raven brooks and almost be able to craft a story between the notes, photos maybe, and the look of the homes
It would add a lot to the feeling that there used to be a whole bustling town here that’s just gone now
games like this give way for tons of side plots and personal stories for each character and I think it would be cool to follow storylines for people who aren’t even there anymore through text and environmental storytelling
that's for sure man like just to hear the backstory of the town
like maybe how neighbor's house burnt down
becaues I don't think it's said anywhere
Probably storm
There were theories of it being Aaron based on a statement i never actually saw
in hn2, it was storm
oh alright
hn3 is probably going to have some reason
a storm
but the storms in question is probably different storms
it’s almost like
Is the continuation soon-ish
no its on april 10
telekinesis confirmed
next build drops and they added a tears of the kingdom ability wheel
This sign in particular really supports the aaron guest theory just noticed
yeah i noticed that too
just a second i thought might be forest dweller used that cutouts beaks when he created his mask or hat whatever
but they are seemingly different materials i think
Yay we are gonna have more inventory slots in Alpha 1🎉
actually that might be the one historian stole
we dont know for sure
