hn3-discussion

[grim lark]

Act 2

With Nicky escaped from Peterson’s house, the Neighbor was now a wanted abducter

[tawdry pollen]

hi so i could not find a feedback place for the Hello neighbor 3 Alpha or have i not looked good inaf?

im also not sure if this is the dedictad channel for hello neighbor 3 alpha. im new to this discord server

[grim lark]

You have not looked good enough :D

#1494695990832267396

[grim lark]

For the discussion channel: #hn3-discussion

Have fun!

[crude geode]

Wow

[tawdry pollen]

Thankyou 🙂

[compact fog]

I feel like the neighbor in hn3 isnt scary enough.

[tawdry pollen]

well what kind of desing would you have liked to see?

[grim lark]

Give him a thousand teeth

:D

[compact fog]

I mean, the design for the body is good. Its more about the face. I feel like they tried to portray him as deranged. But he has more of a neutral expression in the game. He doesn't look as unfriendly as I thought he'd look.

[spiral comet]

Ohhhh

[grim lark]

Thats why you have that cop wandering his house filled with police tape

[spiral comet]

OHH

that makes sm sense

[grim lark]

[tawdry pollen]

yea i guess you sould like add more animations with facial expersions. that could maybe help making him more scary?

[grim lark]

Give him an angry look

Like a bad guy busy destroying town

[tawdry pollen]

yea that would be cool. and also like something with his shovel where he just destroys random stuff like boxes or other stuff

[compact fog]

Wait that would actually be sick tho. Like he would randomly go into a fit of rage and break the nearest object and yell or smthn. It would really sell the whole deranged vibe.

I found this on game jolt. This is more what im talking abt

[tawdry pollen]

yea for real this would be realy scary especialy with the big storm!!

but i still personaly don't realy understand why the bakary explodes?

[grim lark]

The actual explanation is “oopsie”

[chrome sun]

Who ever made this got some talent and needs a raise

[grim lark]

But the deeper explanation is (and you can discover it yourself): ||his wife is dead, he lost his bakery||

[tawdry pollen]

oww okay so he basicaly destroys the bakary him self?

[compact fog]

Yeah. It happens if you fail to bring the book back to him in time

[grim lark]

He destroys whats left of it, plus himself

Since to him, he had nothing else to lose

[chrome sun]

Why does the guest kill you now?

[grim lark]

Forest Dweller Guest is evil.

Why? Evilness.

(And he’s also friends with the neighbor)

[chrome sun]

Or foe

[grim lark]

As for gameplay reason:
Nikita thought it worked better if he ended the run.
We beg to differ

But hey, if he didnt do it, we wouldnt know it’d be annoying.

I think the Guest for now just needs a nerf

[chrome sun]

The Spawn thing is insane too. He roams the map but just spawns in immediately near the player when in forest, that one of the parts i feel like they need to change, But to get to the player on foot without getting stuck

[tawdry pollen]

yea true. i feel like there sould also be a way to get free from him if he takes you. as its just now 1 shot

[manic lichen]

I mean if you are tired of guest doing that just make friends with him

[grim lark]

Being able to be friends with the guest is a bit ridiculous though…

[manic lichen]

yea

thats why you take advantage of it before they remove it

[blissful river]

I don’t have a problem with him ending the run, he just needs more polished mechanics lol. It’s very obvious they just made him kill you, and slowed him down for the pre alpha.

[woeful summit]

Kinda miss the AI vision the og gn had 😢 (and the one the hn2 promised…)

But I’m curious to see how well the “groundhog” style plays with hn3 since it’s pretty unique. Can’t wait for the full release 🗣️

Tho I do hope some other devs get inspired by dynamic pixels’ vision and make some sort of puzzle thriller mascot horror with the adaptive AI in mind

[grim lark]

(Compared to proto 3, yeah)

[tawdry pollen]

how did they actualy make the Clouds in the game. since they look Realy good & Realistci

[woeful summit]

The new style is actually something I really enjoy about hn3

[manic lichen]

yea more details makes the game feel pretty alive

[woeful summit]

The lack of consistency with the hn2 (like locations/characters) is a bit interesting but the new graphics makes it unique

Tho I do hope they polish the animations and the overall game in the alpha 1

[blissful river]

This is how he will work when he has polished mechanics. Like Nikita said, they only quickly implemented some of this in the pre alpha.

[woeful summit]

I feel like the pacing is kind of fast

Like the speed the characters move at

Especially indoors

[manic lichen]

I feel like the dragging is a little fast as well

[blissful river]

It is. First bit of feedback I put in the form was slowing down the player and characters when inside houses.

[woeful summit]

If they can get the interactions and animations to be seamless that would be very amazing

Especially with how the characters just noclip through the doors a lot 😭

[blissful river]

The animations in the pre alpha are mostly placeholder, as it’s a “pre alpha”.

[woeful summit]

Yea

I’m just listing stuff that would lowkey be cool for the full release, cause even then in some of the older hn games the animations aren’t as seamless

[blissful river]

Yeah ofc

[manic lichen]

I hope they add a way to like push the guest off you kinda like hn1 with the power up

[blissful river]

Just saying all the unpolished stuff will almost 100% be fixed.

[woeful summit]

Cause like in the full release of hn1 the neighbor would 360 if you’re behind him

And the switching between animations wasn’t as smooth

[blissful river]

They are much more experienced now though.

[tawdry pollen]

yea true, he also just flaots sometimes

[woeful summit]

Yea 😭

I hope they take their time with this

So they can plan a much better release than hn2 😭

[tawdry pollen]

yea true, but i think this is with more NPCs as they just clip trough doors or walls

[manic lichen]

something thats really creepy is when a character is dead they still blink.

[woeful summit]

(Since he wasn’t involved halfway through hn2 I think?)

[blissful river]

A lot of stuff happened with HN2 that caused it to release in the state it did.

[grim lark]

A lot of stuff happened with HN1 that caused it to release in the state it did.

[woeful summit]

Yea hello neighbor 2 was a hot mess 😭

[grim lark]

A lot of stuff can happen with HN3 that can cause it to release in a less than desirable state

[blissful river]

Nikita completely left development around the “alpha 2” era of HN2. The person that took over in his place did a terrible job as a lead director, and EGS tried their best but was also heavily rushed.

[tawdry pollen]

but yk im happy they have released an Alpha as most game's don't do this and just Release the full game, this most of the time couses the game to fail as people dislike surthen things

[blissful river]

Hoping now that they have learned from both experiences, they can really put all they have into HN3 and make a good game.

We will see.

[woeful summit]

Yea

From what I recall

I remember the Xbox trailer thing

As well as the bugs being the main topic

[supple solstice]

hey someone can help me for 2 min plssssss

[blissful river]

The AI trailer?

[woeful summit]

Yea

As well as the alphas

Cause like ppl liked the guest

And how he like threw you

[blissful river]

Yep. That was when Nikita was still lead. The beta was the first game version after he left.

[woeful summit]

The AI concept lowkey felt cool

But it might have been unrealistic I’m not exactly sure where tinybuild’s capabilities lie

[blissful river]

It was completely unrealistic though.

[woeful summit]

That sneaky change was kinda wild tho

[blissful river]

Having an AI that learns from everyone in the community wouldn’t work at all.

[woeful summit]

I kinda wish they were more transparent about it 😔

[tawdry pollen]

what is the problem you're having?

[grim lark]

It was unrealistic for a team of less than 9 people and for people who never even made a computer game before

(HN1)

[blissful river]

We are talking about HN2? I think at least lol. I was.

[blissful river]

Ah yes mb

[grim lark]

I was going to get into that

[supple solstice]

where i can get the invisible power on the act 3 ?

[tawdry pollen]

i don't exectly understand what you mean?

[grim lark]

Blue-lock room has an orange door

Get to it

[supple solstice]

TY !!!

[inland dock]

hiii... i found a bug (i can´t find a bug channel for hn3 TT)

[tawdry pollen]

hi the channel is #1494695990832267396, but if you want you could also check out #hn3-pre-alpha-chat to just talk about you're expierce with others

(btw you're not the only one who is experiencing this. as you have to manualy enable these channels)

[inland dock]

OHHHHH THANKSSSSS:3

[queen spruce]

uh does anyone know how to actually get past the litterl first part when you join.... i read the clue thing when i opned the game and all i got from it was enter 204...

im so confused

[tawdry pollen]

you have to go to the hotel and break open the door of room 204. hope this helps!

[queen spruce]

how do i break open the door?

[tawdry pollen]

you can us a saw that you can find in one of the other rooms and or a crowbar

[queen spruce]

thanks.

amazing game but uh im tired and some randon dude justgrabbed me and dragged me to my death so....

[tawdry pollen]

yea that happends alot. but know that it can be difficult to play the game as not evreything is Explained. but know that you can us Tab to see you're tasks and read notes. also you can us Screwdrivers to fix broken objects & with a saw you can break bigger objects in you're way. hope this will help you further with out me spoiling it

[queen spruce]

Your not spoiling anything, I am looking forward to this game though, seems like it has massive potential

[tawdry pollen]

yea thats true, i wish you a great time!

[quick crow]

if hn3 ever has capture anims im just imagining covered using her sign to wack alma over the head LMAOOO

[crude ravine]

https://tenor.com/view/zias-b-lou-blou-tung-tung-sahur-tung-tung-tung-sahur-gif-16345795285630366932

[spiral atlas]

I wonder when we'll see that new character Nikita mentioned

[crude ravine]

This or next week %100 we gonna see the teaser

[severe merlin]

Walking through doors was not an animation issue. It was a case of NPC’s navigation and usage of blocked passages. We couldn’t fix it in time, so we disabled passages for NPCs, so they can move freely by walking them no matter what.
Good thing our engineers fixed that issue!

[crude ravine]

Very good

[spiral atlas]

Hey Nikita, how are you?

[severe merlin]

We working on improving dragging. For every character (not only for the Guest).
Our plan is:

• Make sure player can throw an item at NPC and release this way. Make it so it’s practically impossible to miss when you being dragged, and that any item will do the job. Basically “exchange” one item to get free.
• Add a guaranteed 1-2 seconds pause before you being thrown out (or taken by the Guest), so there will be moment to escape even if you’ve been caught near the “throw out” spot.
• And of course make dragging look and feel good visually

[untold grotto]

will we continue to be able to befriend with "Monsters"

[exotic pewter]

love this mechanic of taking photos. But why the neighbor aint attacking me at mayak

[manic lichen]

Oh thanks

because tinycro he doesnt wanna be rude

[severe merlin]

First HN was made by five people (at times even less).
Five very inexperienced people

[oblique parcel]

Do you expect the team to continue to grow over the development of hn3 or not?

[exotic pewter]

hes just following me around. is this a bug or smth?

[severe merlin]

Please don’t break the door
HN3 is based around exploring. Look around and you will find MUCH simple and more interesting ways to get into the room without wasting time breaking the door.

[exotic pewter]

Idk, I could never find a way into room 204

[manic lichen]

tbh everyone first thought in a sandbox game is: destruction.

[queen spruce]

Yeah I saw someone just jump on top of the motel and jump through the window

[severe merlin]

The Guest? Use Turbo mode on a flashlight on him (even if he drags you). Hold button to activate turbo mode on a flashlight.

[queen spruce]

I am in bed rn I’ll uh try it tomorrow though

[exotic pewter]

would you be able to befriend the neighbor, the guest and vandals? or would they remain as hostiles

[oblique parcel]

You currently can befriend the guest

I’m not sure if that’s intentional

[queen spruce]

I can’t wait for someone to beat the game in 5 seconds when it fully releases 💔

[exotic pewter]

you can?

how

[manic lichen]

hes such a cutie

[oblique parcel]

Giving him food stuff

[manic lichen]

yea or even just chairs

[queen spruce]

What if I just shoot the guest?

[manic lichen]

...

[exotic pewter]

he just catches me tho? how do I give him stuff

[oblique parcel]

Not sure maybe throw it idk

[manic lichen]

so tinycro you need to lead him out of the dark area

have it so he chases you a little bit out of it or even turn on a light during the storm while hes in something like the mechanic garage

[spiral atlas]

You can lure the Guest just far enough into a lit up space sometimes and give him food, and he should become friendly

[manic lichen]

he needs about like 3-5 food

[exotic pewter]

but like, hes super fast, how do you lure him into a lit up space

[spiral atlas]

It's hard to explain but if you get the timing right he starts walking and you can give him stuff then

[exotic pewter]

something is in the woods.....

[manic lichen]

ngl when hes not chasing and does his little poses hes kinda cute

[exotic pewter]

also, isnt the guest supposed to love golden apple

[manic lichen]

is he?

[exotic pewter]

he always had one with him in the HN2 Alphas

[manic lichen]

that could be hate as well like a reminder

[exotic pewter]

nono

Nikita told in an interview that the golden apple is very valuable to him and everyone in town knows that he loves it

but that is old HN2 story

[manic lichen]

hmmm

well he also could just not know we are from golden apple

[exotic pewter]

everyone knows we are from golden apple

we lliteraly have a golden apple ID card

[manic lichen]

huh

then..

afraid of women?

idk just trying to find smth

also they could just not like us in general because we are stealing and destruction of property

[tawdry pollen]

do you guys think that Alma Hoffman might be Dutch? since her last name sounds pretty Dutch

[celest plank]

i dont think there are such things as countries in the game

hn3 raven brooks isnt set anywhere

[wicked moth]

I have had some minor issues as well, because at times the guest might ignore turbo mode, and at others they're weren't even really scared, so they just came back a second later, or he would still run into me even with it on but not catch me

[tawdry pollen]

oww okay, i didn't know that but yea that makes sense since yea HN is a Fictional world

[celest plank]

the third one is what i want the most 😭

dragging always felt kinda like janky from the player's pov in hn games

[primal wedge]

windows

just parkour the windows

[celest plank]

is it an unpopular opinion that

i want the item durabilities to stay exactly the way they are

in prototype 3 everything was easy to break and you didnt require any thinking at all

[keen hemlock]

how is the development of the butterfly effect going? is it achievable?

[granite junco]

Does anybody know if it is possible to stop the bakery from exploding?

[celest plank]

yes give janusz the recipe book

its in the post office

[granite junco]

Ah,thanks!

[near hawk]

I agree but from what i see most people don't so unpopular ig

[celest plank]

they just want it easy

it lowkey frustrates me sometimes how people just dont get the premise of hn3

[primal wedge]

Guest from HN3 is maybe Aaron cuz:
The guest is not attacking neighbor
The guest house is very close to mayak and both located on amusement park
The guest from HN3 isn't guest from HN2

[exotic pewter]

I dont think guest even has a house in HN3

[primal wedge]

yes he has

[exotic pewter]

where?

[eager glade]

same place where he kidnaps you in prototype 3 but in pre alpha house is smaller

[exotic pewter]

hmmmm

I havent seen it in pre alpha then

where exactly is it

[tawdry pollen]

im not sure if im the only one, but i have not seen the character Isaac while he was heavely promoted?

[eager glade]

next to the ferris wheel iirc its somewhere below it and the house isnt as big as prototype 3 its smaller

[eager glade]

hes not in the game

atleast for now

[tawdry pollen]

oww okay thakyou for the notice 👍

[eager glade]

Np

[tawny yoke]

I think it's this

[eager glade]

yeah

[tawny yoke]

its behind the rollercoaster track I think

like when you find the ice cream booth just go behind the tracks

[tawny yoke]

I'm wondering if befriending the guest could be a part of the future builds too

cause I think they could give him the same status the neighbor has maybe

that you can't befriend him if that's right

[woeful summit]

Ah alr

[rotund plaza]

Every community has a toxic side

[grim lark]

I’m still happy you people got to work on a project like this ^-^

[celest plank]

5 very inexperienced people started such a big thing

[rotund plaza]

Wish HN2 was directed by Nikita

Anyway, HN3 neighbor is pretty chill

[grim lark]

It really hurts to see people only try breaking the door and get upset saying the game is unfair because the door is too resistant

It infuriates me

[celest plank]

i really loved where hn2 was heading

but then it just changed

anyway nikita mattered more at that time

he was burnt out

[celest plank]

bro same 😭

[grim lark]

On my first playthrough, I immediately looked for another way in like a window

[celest plank]

on my first playthough i tried taking down the door

but realized its unreliable

so i like went around

ts is way more fun than if the door were to be easy to break

[tawny yoke]

the amount of entrances rooms can have is so awesome

you can just walk into one and see like 2-3 other way of entering it it's amazing

[lunar trail]

that problem probably originates from the fact that before pre-alpha in the prototypes you had to actually like break the doors and stuff to get in places

or even if there was other ways in, people adapted that mindset

[celest plank]

in general it just seems like people are fixated on "winning"

[ionic bay]

Nikita is writing👀

[severe merlin]

Totally understandable. But it’s our responsibility to explain how to play our game. So, hopefully we’ll be able to figure out how to set player with the right mindset.
I recently watched some playthrough on YouTube and for some people it just clicks. Really awesome playthrough, btw.

So I hope we’ll make it click to everyone 🙂

[ionic bay]

At first, I couldn't understand the objective system and found it difficult, but I've gotten used to it now and I've almost finished the game.

[celest plank]

nikita i like genuinely wonder what you think of people that judge this game based on how the first 2 came out
i guess they assume this third game to have the same fate too so i rly wanna hear what u have to say to that

[severe merlin]

Well, people have reasons to have doubts. I can totally understand them.
The best we can do is just make great game, which hopefully shift this point of view.

[jade night]

Nikita, what do you think will make a game have a certain memorable vibe to it? And what will specifically achieve a cozy yet eerie vibe. Because I personally find Hello Guest Alpha perfecting that vibe while Hello Neighbor 3 doesn't quite get it right, in Hello Guest, the map towers over the player, making them feel small and unsafe, distant buildings outside of the map look like they're watching me. I don't feel the same in Hello Neighbor 3

[meager walrus]

i agree

the atmosphere of hello guest is better then hn3s current one

[celest plank]

me too

i mean honestly to be fair the world of hn3 isnt finished yet

i really hope itll look actually eerie once they like

finish it

[meager walrus]

fair but they did talk about creating this cozy yet eerie atmosphere alot

didnt they

[celest plank]

i cannot lie the current graphics are not god

good

i hope theyll change it in the future

something about it feels really template-y

[meager walrus]

which to be honest hello neighbor 3 kinda fails at that

[near hawk]

My fav vibe is of HN2 alphas

[meager walrus]

same thing as hello guest

[celest plank]

me too that and hg was absolutely cking peak

[near hawk]

It's basically the same as hg but it is a bit more uncanny

[celest plank]

my favorite artstyle by far

everything was leaning towards you

and like

literally everything felt fragile and rotten as if it'd fall on you at any time

[meager walrus]

hn3s raven brooks just kinda feels boring not cozy or eerie at all

to me atleast

[jade night]

Level design is not as intense as hello guest, but still looks good

[celest plank]

it feels very dry

like i dont know how to explain it

[meager walrus]

preety sure because the game takes place in autumn

[celest plank]

i'd prefer a more wet look on the hn3 map since snow is melting and its early spring and allat

raven brooks looks like a desert bro

[celest plank]

no its in early spring

i really hope hello guest gets remade from scratch and fit into the hn universe

the artstyle was so good and it feels like all that just went to waste

[near hawk]

Well i do think its story would basically fully fit

Since you know

[celest plank]

i mean ig

i think the protagonist would have to be replaced tho

[near hawk]

Fair

[celest plank]

not like its happening anyway 😭

[severe merlin]

You are getting it right, but not exactly. With HN3 we are going for completely different atmosphere than HG Alpha.
Our goal is melancholy of a fading memory you can never return too. Memory of something familiar but eerie and distant.

[celest plank]

i think they used hg as an example of a memorable type of game

not necessarily that hn3 has to be like hg

[jade night]

I can see what you mean, but it's sort of not well executed, the town still feels "alive", and since the map is going for a realistic look, it won't be as memorable, hello guest feels memorable and always feels like a distant memory from the dreamy nature of it, a distant train in the background, the simple music tracks that play randomly. Hn3 feels very grounded and real, rather than a memory, the music is composed with a progressive feel, it builds up, in hello guest it's short, it was there, and now it's gone, feeling like you'll never hear it again

[trim pine]

I'm sorry if I bother, but I was wondering to ask: If Iris was in Pre-Alpha, what would she be doing? I'm asking this because I was planning to put her in my mod for Pre-Alpha, but I want to make her fit with the other characters of the Pre-Alpha. For now what I've come up with is for her to put posters of Isaac around town, and if the player doesn't help her by the end of the day, she goes into the woods to search for him herself. (I'm only seeking clarity so I can know if I'm going in the right direction)

[severe merlin]

HN3 made to feel grounded 🙂
I said that "fading memory is a vibe", not that game has to feel like we are literally inside the memory 🙂

[cinder jolt]

I know this might sound funny, but would anyone else really enjoy it if they released the Prototypes/earlier builds of HN3 but also polish them up a little bit too? I kinda miss Prototype 2. That's just what I think, though.

[jade night]

I see, it does feel like that a bit definitely, but I don't think it will carry as much of a atmospheric and emotional value that hello guest did, and that's not a bad thing, hn3 still has a long way to go so I'm expecting that eventually the atmosphere will be built on more 👍

[high brook]

Yea prototype 2 was my favorite probably gameplay wise

Also I’m pretty sure it was in development for the longest

[celest plank]

grandeturisto when will we get new foliage

[low gate]

I feel like most memorys would be more realistic and i wouldnt say its overly realistic at all its just more raw maybe

[cinder jolt]

Don't know if any of the Devs will see this, but if they do, I play on Steam Deck OLED, and even on the lowest settings, Prototype 3 and the Pre-Alpha FPS can barely go past 50-40 FPS. I understand that it's early development and all, but I also kinda miss how Prototype 2 ran the smoothest on lower settings too.

[high brook]

Yea p2 was kinda built for it

Nikita literally tested it on the deck as well

[cinder jolt]

Agreed. Honestly, while I really enjoy Prototype 3 and the Pre-Alpha, I would also REALLY enjoy if they kinda kept Raven Brooks similar to Prototype 2, but also add some extra buildings and things to the Theme Park too!! 🙂

[cinder jolt]

AMAZING!!

[jade night]

Hm, the thing about what I'm talking about, is that Nikita has applied it to all of his other work, Giant Monster, there's a giant towering monster in a city that towers over you, introversion, people tower over you, making you small. It all ties into feeling small in a giant world, and making mistakes that have giant consequences. Yet HN3 only has the second part of it, actions that can lead to consequences.

[high brook]

I wonder if we will ever get to see more of prototype 0

Even though it was really bare bones

[celest plank]

eh i prefer the current raven brooks

actually ill go rewatch p2

[cinder jolt]

Me too. I also guess what I meant was is that I enjoy both. I also kinda wish that the FPS would be more smooth even on the lowest settings

[celest plank]

a lot of people had that issue

me as well

[high brook]

I feel like raven brooks needs more fog

Even though that’s not target atmosphere

[celest plank]

we ALL want fog bro 😭

[cinder jolt]

Agreed, but not too much fog like Silent Hill, but probably just a little bit. 🙂

[high brook]

Nikita said it didn’t fit though iirc

[celest plank]

when the bakery exploded and smoke came out it literally felt more eerie than ever

i dont get why fog wouldnt fit the game

[high brook]

Anyone know what genre the hn3 background music is

[celest plank]

i mean at least add a small distant fog

[jade night]

it's very inspired by Flawed Mangoes

[near meadow]

I can’t wait to see what the town will look like once all the buildings are complete

[high brook]

Was this confirmed?

I know they sound similar but was it?

[jade night]

Nikita posted a HN3 music inspiration playlist a while ago

A lot of Flawed Mangoes tracks were in it

[celest plank]

i hope we'll get to see a UI sneak peek at one point

[crude ravine]

I bored

[misty linden]

Me too I'm bored

But I gotta sleep

As well

Life is boring? I saw your status 🥺

[crude ravine]

Yeah

Life is boring

[misty linden]

Yoo

I love when people text fast you know?

[crude ravine]

Me too

[misty linden]

We same

Twin

I always be the one who start the conversation

So I'm start to get bored

[hoary heath]

Hello mans

[hoary heath]

Where is piano in game?

[lunar trail]

what piano

[hoary heath]

Bro someone say he sell piano

But there no piano in game

[pseudo spoke]

There are at least 2 pianos in the game

[hoary heath]

Where?

[pseudo spoke]

Cinema. They're extremely basic placeholders

[hoary heath]

But i no see

Screenshot please

[pseudo spoke]

These are pianos, trust me.

[hoary heath]

Bro so cinema persons sell piano

[gleaming acorn]

believable

[lunar trail]

i think they're just meant to be in the cinema

not being sold

[low gate]

Its a small town and youre not small like nicky was as a child it doesnt work here

[jade night]

I don't think you understand what I mean

like, at all

[tall sorrel]

well that adds more questions

[meager walrus]

i think he meant that one note on one of the doors from like proto 3 or some thing

where it said i sold the piano

[pseudo spoke]

I mean the Guest towers over everyone
Also I'd say HN3 also makes you feel small in a large world. You are literally just one of many people living their lives, in this one of (probably) many towns Golden Apple has abandoned, and with how things flow on their own without your input it can feel like that.

[nimble walrus]

Imagine you could actually play it

[crude ravine]

In next version, why not

Devs can add it

[frosty gyro]

imagine you play the original hello neighbor motif in the piano

[narrow gust]

This was such a good playthrough

people who want to feel hn3 hype should definitely watch this

[lunar trail]

i agree, it's a fun to watch one

[blissful river]

I actually was surprised that 8-bitryan had a good time with the pre alpha.

[celest plank]

bro made like 2 hn videos afterwards

[empty shell]

crazy how i feel nostalgia for P1

[celest plank]

i absolutely hated prototype 1

[eager glade]

im prob late but when ur in the danger zone let him come to u then enter the safe zone again and he will start walking run to him and give food fast

[civic totem]

Old Town is Raven Brooks bro

[vestal trellis]

prototype 2 is my fav

[celest plank]

for me it'd be

pre alpha
prototype 3
prototype 2
prototype 1

[vestal trellis]

idk why its more fun

[celest plank]

gameplay-wise prototype 2 was far better than 3

[vestal trellis]

omg so true

[celest plank]

lichally butter smooth but then prototype 3 was a slideshow

[vestal trellis]

is it me but beta 1 feels like hello neighbor 2 now

[celest plank]

never thought of it like that

[vestal trellis]

I like when you first start in the game you try to find the neighborhood not just spawn in them

in prototype 2

fr 😭

[limpid pewter]

hi guys

[crude ravine]

Hello, neighbor!

[limpid pewter]

storms hit raven brooks thats why it is so damaged

[limpid pewter]

Hello neighbor 2!

[crude ravine]

https://tenor.com/view/arriba-gif-12324188786972117417

[deft summit]

it's just a piece of crap town now, not really abandoned

[exotic pewter]

find report #13

that is the story

[deft summit]

I doubt it'll be the ONLY story but like it IS the story we have right now

[limpid pewter]

and neighbor has fled to mayak

after hn1 and hn2

and aaron is likely the forest dweller

[narrow gust]

Agreed

It wouldn't make sense for him to not be in hn3

[limpid pewter]

yeah

[narrow gust]

plus the forest dweller only started appearing in raven brooks after Aaron got kidnapped

And in wtrb (which I know is seperate) the guest's backstory isn't a flashback

[untold grotto]

i think he is talking about that one "selling the piano" note being wroten by cinema workers

[untold grotto]

i heavily doubt they have same identity though

[limpid pewter]

yes

[untold grotto]

i think after aaron escaped would be better wording

since the kidnappings started around 2008

[limpid pewter]

YES

[deft summit]

that's not the Forest Dweller

[untold grotto]

i dont think <@&1162799252192379000> are going to enjoy that

[deft summit]

the Guest in HN2 and the "Guest" in HN3 are completely different people

the Forest Dweller name only applies to the "Guest" in HN3 because it was a placeholder name only meant FOR the HN3 Guest

[untold grotto]

they has same context in a way though

[deft summit]

it's only being said because it avoids confusion

[untold grotto]

they are both something acting like the urban legend

[deft summit]

same context different people

go watch WTRB then

that's pretty much where the big stuff for the HN2 Guest is getting revealed

[untold grotto]

yea the forest dweller name doesnt even makes sense anymore, since fd is able to go all dark areas rather than just in forest

but i use it to avoid confusion with the urban legend/statue guest

[deft summit]

I however lost interest in the HN2 Guest because it's pretty much obvious that he is NOT the cryptid urban legend of Raven Brooks

no, they confirmed the Guest in HN3 is not the same

at all

[untold grotto]

forest dweller is the "guest"

the "real" guest didnt appeared in hn2 too

[deft summit]

even the "real Guest" Nikita mentioned isn't the same as the HN2 Guest

they're pretty much the same concept

the concept of the Guest returns

but he himself is not the same character

Nikita literally said once how he did not know the HN2 Guest

[buoyant brook]

is hn2 non-canon

[deft summit]

he does not know who the HN2 Guest because the Guest we see now was so far off from what Nikita was writing back in the Yellow Press story

[deft summit]

no

[untold grotto]

everything is canon

[deft summit]

he doesn't

you can clearly see more human skin

the outfit is completely different

[untold grotto]

maybe because he is ACTING like him?

[deft summit]

the beak itself is different

[limpid pewter]

metal

[eager glade]

🐟

[deft summit]

Apollo

[limpid pewter]

11

[untold grotto]

well if we go even back in HG, "guest" was also someone who is acting like the urban legend

or town mascot

[deft summit]

well yeah but like

the planned STORY was different

the planned IDENTITY was different

[untold grotto]

ikr

just saying the whole guest idea was always about there being a "real" one and a fake one

atleast that was how it was intended to be

[deft summit]

question is do we believe that the final HN2 writers actually kept the "real Guest" concept

[untold grotto]

seems like that

maybe not the acting

but the guest being not real/urban legend guest is still a thing

because guest is a urban legend for ages, while the guest we see in the game is someone newly existed or something

and maybe the guy behind the costume isnt even trying to be the guest

he just got the mask and cloak from cult leader he killed

to hide his body or something

[deft summit]

in theory atleast

I don't know if it was confirmed yet

or if they even would confirm something that big until we actually get Season 3

[untold grotto]

well i would say that is the thing because they wouldnt reveal the guest in a ordinary frame as if it was nothing

and then there is that one killed cultist teaser

[deft summit]

at first I thought that was the Guest killing a Forest Protector

but now that we have that Peterson teaser it might not be the Guest

again we won't really know until they actually start releasing the season, whenever that is

[untold grotto]

no i mean the one with a unfamiliar shoe

that was cleary not the neighbor

but anyways lets go to hn3 back

[deft summit]

actually speaking of the two Guests

right now I'm more interested in the HN3 one anyways

because of stuff like how he sees the neighbor as monster but Peterson sees him as friend

[untold grotto]

do we think that is a drawing of the guest or the forest dweller

FD is more likely to me

[deft summit]

I think it's a mix of both

maybe one of the vandals drew it because they believe he's the real Guest

[untold grotto]

its in the citizens festival pedestal though

i mean is it like

"hey guys there is some creepy guy like this in forest"

or

"i drew the guest"

[tawny yoke]

maybe its the real one because I think those lightning bolts above imply that maybe it's saving people from the storm

[crystal hare]

aren't they the same character?

[deft summit]

no

not at all

[untold grotto]

kinda

but no they are different

[deft summit]

Nikita already pretty much confirmed there's a real Guest and the "Guest"

[crystal hare]

the guest in pre-apha is litteraly called in files "forest dweller"

[deft summit]

the real one is likely the symbol of the people

[deft summit]

we use the Forest Dweller name to avoid confusion

[untold grotto]

and the guest in pre alpha/forest dweller is the "guest"

while the one that has a statue and is in murals, poster etc. being the the guest

[deft summit]

yeah pretty much

[untold grotto]

i think option one would be explain that npcs do see fd as monster because they know about him

[deft summit]

game files don't mean anything in the regards to his name because the FD name is just something fans can use to avoid the confusion

[tawny yoke]

I'm wondering if they know it's someone insane mimicking a god and killing people or are they actually convinced it's the real god that came for them

[deft summit]

tbf though there's like some kind of face on him which the Forest Dweller doesn't have

[deft summit]

the vandals believe he is real

not sure about the others

[untold grotto]

i think for vandals its is option 2

but the other citizens is probably the option one

[deft summit]

not even sure if they've made the connection that he's mimicking their god

they might just only see him as some crazy dude in the forest

[untold grotto]

yeah

i just meant they know about him

[boreal coral]

Where is the post office?

Also, is it normal that Janusz is chasing me through the whole map 😭

[blissful river]

Look at one of the maps.

They are everywhere.

[deft summit]

if you are holding something that belongs to him

[untold grotto]

your company just shut down his business

[deft summit]

even if it's a can

[untold grotto]

this too

[deft summit]

trust me I figured that out the hard way

[boreal coral]

Where is the letter in the post office for janusz?

[deft summit]

it's on the second floor

on the shelf

you'll see a cook book

[boreal coral]

umm

[deft summit]

that's not a shelf

[boreal coral]

theres nothing else in the room

[tawny yoke]

I think that's the wrong house

[boreal coral]

unless thats not the post office, but the map shows it is

[deft summit]

then it's the wrong building

[tawny yoke]

post office is near the cable car building

[deft summit]

the post office has a sign on it

[tawny yoke]

blue building

[boreal coral]

cooking with love?

[deft summit]

yes

[boreal coral]

Tysm guys

[deft summit]

yw

[boreal coral]

i picked up the kid and threw him into the area with the cave dweller but he ran out with no issue, do i have to be caught while holding him?

[gleaming acorn]

you've just gotta have some better timing

[boreal coral]

I see, one last question is there a way to kill the cave dweller

[crude ravine]

Cave dweller

Btw u can stun him with photo machine

But cant pick up him

[deft summit]

camera

[boreal coral]

wait, janusz came home from his job, i have the book equipped and nothing is happening when iclick on him

[deft summit]

it's called a camera

not "photo machine"

[boreal coral]

what do i do for him to use the book

or am i too late

[deft summit]

he should be at a grave

mourning his wife

[boreal coral]

he came back from the grave

and im trying to click on him with the book

nothings happening

[crude ravine]

I love photo machine

[boreal coral]

or does he have to be at the grave for it to work

[deft summit]

I think he's already done it

[boreal coral]

no hes preparing to do it

[crystal hare]

that's actually not meaningless...

Is this still relevant? #old-rbo-discussion message

[celest plank]

is it just me or did the cinema shrink

[untold grotto]

yes

[deft summit]

yes it's still relevant

[untold grotto]

theres nothing supernatural in raven brooks and never was

[near hawk]

Yeah, plus Nikita said he has a grounded storytelling

[deft summit]

the "god" (the symbol Guest) isn't real it's just something the Raven Brooks citizens believe in

[untold grotto]

all of hn stories has a grounded explanation behind it

[near hawk]

So there's two confirmations.

[untold grotto]

its probably not real in both literal and symbolism

though its also strange that its statue prevents misfortunes

[deft summit]

I still think it's tied to the Mayak

[lunar trail]

that still doesn't feel much true considering the weather affecting rituals were a thing in P3

[crystal hare]

it makes sense

[boreal coral]

Umm why does he not like the book; I restarted the thing and its 7 AM

[deft summit]

you're holding it

you have to give it to him

[boreal coral]

How else am I supposed to give it to him?

[crude ravine]

U should right click to janusz while holding the book

[boreal coral]

Ohhh

[deft summit]

also it is, I think Nikita's even mentioned more recently than that about how he prefers to write more grounded stories

so with the statue we pretty much have to put it into question on if it's even meant to literally stop the storm

or if it's somehow connected to things that can affect the weather

[crude ravine]

Did u give him to the book?

I didnt get the image

[boreal coral]

I did

is he supposed to just stand there and look at me

[crude ravine]

He prays for his death wife

Normally there is a animation

[boreal coral]

he cried he stood uphe moved he stands

[deft summit]

oh I just realized his ring

[boreal coral]

😭

[deft summit]

that means he's done mourning I think

he should be on good terms with you now too

[untold grotto]

yeah like

[boreal coral]

well hes just standing there and not doing anything

[untold grotto]

in the the code its like +1000 value

[crude ravine]

And he wont blow up the bakery as i know

[deft summit]

he won't blow it up no

[untold grotto]

while the other stuff being +1 value in maximum

[trim pine]

😆 Journal Updated: I gave the baker to the book. Reunited with it's baker, Book is now my friend and will share with me it's knowledge. Book will no longer dust in the post office.

[narrow gust]

Is the guest in hn3 called the guest because he is welcomed into the town as a guest 🤔

and fd is called a dweller because he is sort of hanging around unwanted

[civic totem]

Wait, I just realized that HN3 is the first piece of media in the HN franchise where the Guest is called... the Guest

Like, in the story

[deft summit]

I do imagine that the in-universe mentions are probably placeholder

[untold grotto]

why

[deft summit]

because the name honestly doesn't make alot of sense outside of the context of Hello Guest

[eager glade]

Bro is Green like booger

[crude ravine]

Guest is the guest. Forest dweller was a placeholder name for p1 and p2

[untold grotto]

i think nikita have mentioned the name guest will also makes sense in hn3

[near hawk]

He did

[deft summit]

I don't ever expect them to make it the in-universe name

[deft summit]

if he can that would be great

[near hawk]

It does have meaning

[narrow gust]

I just refer to him as the forest dweller to distinguish between him and the deity

[untold grotto]

yeah

[eager glade]

Everything has a meaning

[crude ravine]

You good

[eager glade]

Hn2 and Quenten has meaning

[near hawk]

Everything does indeed have meaning

Well like, usually

[eager glade]

If there’s a crow bar what’s it there for

Breaking boarded up doors

[celest plank]

bro help

[eager glade]

It’s just logic

[untold grotto]

i think its maybe because the town let the creature "enter the town"

like the creature thingy called or welcomed by townspeople

i think this also fits in with the runes that mentions a pact

[crude ravine]

What a friendly guy

[celest plank]

hold on a minute

is iris isaac's sister

[crude ravine]

Yeah

(We learnt it from p3)

[nimble walrus]

Ngl that reminds me of RBO clip

[narrow gust]

Pre-alpha is so fun to mess around in

[crude ravine]

I hope there will be more npcs in alpha 1

[celest plank]

mate

coned's house is so interesting

why does bro randomly have a swing on his roof 😭

and whatever this is

[celest plank]

where is that

[untold grotto]

the statue pedestal

[celest plank]

oh yeah

[young zodiac]

I have an very important question, is it possible to rename Janusz to Giovanni? I and my fellow hn friends found the name a lot more suitable to the design and vibe of the character as we playtested the third installment of the series.

[untold grotto]

the janusz name is coming from a polish stereotype

[young zodiac]

Giovanni sounds better tbh

[finite carbon]

There most likely will be

[quartz canopy]

why?? what for

[unborn fox]

They can't just rename him now

[quartz canopy]

yeah thats one thing

and janusz is much more fitting
let there be some sort of polish representation as well for once

[unborn fox]

His name is already cool 😎

[lunar trail]

Giovanni will be the secret twin brother of Janusz

[young zodiac]

I would be satisfied with that tbh

[severe merlin]

https://tenor.com/view/haha-gumichan-bird-no-laughing-gif-5128531988218293677

[limpid pewter]

hi nikita how is progress on the next build going

[eager glade]

Are ravens gonna be in HN3

It’s raven brooks after all 👀

[narrow gust]

I wish giving characters the notes that say where their item is (like the baking book) would let them know where it is

[deft summit]

pretty much the exact answer I expected

[high brook]

i remember someone asking if animals would be in hn3

[near hawk]

Eh i was hoping for a bruh level thing but that's close enough..

[high brook]

i wonder if thats still happening

[near hawk]

Did that get an answer

[high brook]

i think nikita said they were thinking about it

iirc this was asked around p1-p2

im sure ravens will be added since every hn game bascially had them

[deft summit]

y'know what animals would be pretty cool to see

maybe we could even see the Forest Dweller interacting with them either as a food source or friend

[near hawk]

Now what animals would we want to see..

[deft summit]

huh, good question, what IS the ecosystem of Raven Brooks

[high brook]

hn3 is based on russia right?

[deft summit]

the town is based on a Russian town yeah

[high brook]

specifically voronezh

[near hawk]

The fisherman's village iirc

[deft summit]

so maybe the ecosystem of HN3's Raven Brooks can be based off of the ecosystem of the town it's based on

[high brook]

i know russia has a bunch of stray cats so maybe we could get those in hn3 as just background npcs

i know imbir cant be added since hn2 and hn3 are like 30 years apart

(cats dont live that long)

[deft summit]

yeah unless Imbir is like canonically the oldest cat alive

but also the baker seems to be gone anyways so

[high brook]

(Could be replaced by janusz)

theory

[deft summit]

I mean yeah Janusz probably does replace her but like

I don't think he'd be taking the cat as well

even if Imbir somehow lived that long

[untold grotto]

imbir is not a normal cat...

[lunar trail]

Y'know what would be cool, if there's a cat that's from Imbir's bloodline

[deft summit]

honestly yeah

[lunar trail]

i mean in the HN2 credits we see that Imbir has like parents

[deft summit]

what

I never knew that

[lunar trail]

hold on let me get a screenshot

[deft summit]

granted I've never really watched the credits anyways but that's still news to me

[tawny yoke]

I think deers in the forest would be nice kind of

[deft summit]

deers would be neat

[near hawk]

The guest sounds from devlog 1 make me think of mooses

[lunar trail]

It'd be cool to see their grand grand children in HN3

[deft summit]

that's awesome actually

[spiral atlas]

Honestly Imbir looks more like the one on the right than the child

Doesn't Imbir have the heart pattern too?

[deft summit]

hold on let me check the model

[deft summit]

kinda but I don't think it's in the same place

[lunar trail]

yea

[spiral atlas]

Ah

I do hope we see animals in the HN3 style

[lunar trail]

i really hope we see crows

[deft summit]

I think we'll see crows/ravens

[lunar trail]

Raven Brooks is not Raven Brooks without crows

[deft summit]

I mean they are in every game after all

[lunar trail]

who's this guy, he doesnt have the imbir family hat

[tawny yoke]

https://tenor.com/view/ishowspeed-speed-random-kid-random-kid-gif-10698606526004440975

[deft summit]

looks like an arch nemeses for some reason

Imbir villain confirmed..?

[tawny yoke]

I'm Ribmi and I'm evil

[lunar trail]

Imbir spin-off where we play as Imbir against the bow tie cat

[near hawk]

This but with that cat as our enemy

[celest plank]

can we rename jacob to george

important question

[lunar trail]

can we rename Theodore to Wilson

[deft summit]

can we rename Jacob to Bocaj

[near hawk]

Can we rename the Guest to Robert

[tawny yoke]

From Theodore Peterson to John Smithson

[civic totem]

What was the context of this message

[near hawk]

Nikita asked people what makes hn for them

[untold grotto]

what you consider a hn game

[near hawk]

And gave a few suggestions to see If they thought those as hn games

[lunar trail]

He was discussing what makes people think makes a game a Hello Neighbor game

[civic totem]

Ah, I see

Thanks for answering

[near hawk]

There's like 5 more than the one i forwarded iirc

One was just hello guest

[deft summit]

I personally just see it as the home invasion game, Imbir stealing food from the town is by extension a Hello Neighbor game

we need Hello Imbir

non-HN3 stuff aside, I would like to see cats that are descendants of Imbir's bloodline, even with a hat too

[near hawk]

There it was

[severe merlin]

I think you can do this by giving a photo of said item. But I’m not sure if this feature was fully implemented. 🤔

[dark bison]

I could test it with Janusz.

[bold siren]

Tell us if it worked pls

[dark bison]

nope, it wasn't fully implemented.

[midnight cloud]

https://tenor.com/view/fant4stic-say-that-again-gif-16690486418948643620

[grim lark]

Hey Nikita, I’ve always been wondering (and feel free to answer or not):
Part of HN’s development was inspired by the thrill of finding secrets and glitches in video games by your own exploring, right?
Do you have a particular memory of you playing a game and finding something thrilling like that?

[high brook]

why do i remember nikita saying something along the lines of "new devlog ever 6-8 weeks"

am i going crazy

or was this during RBO or something

[queen spruce]

so uh why did the guest run by me while i was tryna enter the cinema and not do anything to me....

adn he just threw me out the cinema....

yeah im done for today 😭

[young zodiac]

Im not giving up on Giovanni

[near meadow]

I became friends with the guest, and knocked out everyone, threw them into the danger zone and let the guest kill them all, and then I brought their corpses to the guest's alter where I worship the guest.

I also cut the towns power

[trim reef]

thats.. a way to beat the game for sure

become the evil

[near meadow]

THAT NEEDS to be an ending nikita PLEASe

[trim reef]

it should be like a cult or something that you join

cause thats what the guest gives

cult leader

[manic lichen]

Ending: Murder, Why!??!!?

[grim lark]

My god……

(That is an interesting way to finish the game indeed…)

[exotic pewter]

wait, the guest kills them?

[near meadow]

Yeah they never wake up again, and they’re dragged into specific spots in forests

[exotic pewter]

damn

Peterson is not the killer, Guest is the KILLER

[bold siren]

You mean, like the post office note or the cookbook?

If it's cookbook it doesnt work

[crude ravine]

Blue crows

[severe merlin]

https://tenor.com/view/professor-layton-layton-evil-robbemans-robbe-gif-5402712522081831129

[deft summit]

the Ace Attorney point

(I should probably play the Layton Ace Attorney crossover)

[celest plank]

😭😭😭

[bold siren]

Huh? The Guest leaves the corpses? I thought they de-spawn

[finite carbon]

A ending for becoming evil would be pretty cool

Like different types of moral routes

Neutral, Good, and Evil

[deft summit]

you should have a whole Ace Attorney trial happen if you take the evil path (joke)

[finite carbon]

Alma gets sentenced to 81 years of prison

[deft summit]

I was gonna reference a breakdown but I don't know which one would fit Alma for an evil ending

[celest ravine]

This needs to be posted on Tinybuild's youtube

[thick ferry]

You picked the genocide route😱

[near hawk]

Now who's the persecutor and who's the defense attorney...

[deft summit]

defense attorney is obviously the popular journalist from 1996!
oh wait he died from an inhuman amount of caffeine consumption

[celest plank]

where are granny's fireworks mate

yep i fed her to the guest

she didnt do her job

[tawny belfry]

lol

[celest plank]

i also buried janusz because i love janusz

[tawny belfry]

bro disconnected

i have hn1 but my pc cant handle it sadly dose anyone know an optimization mod if so pls dm me the name

[celest plank]

it doesnt work

[gusty atlas]

Is the hn3 playtest free?

Im too lazy to check rn 😢

[celest plank]

yeah

[gusty atlas]

Alright

Thank you

[celest plank]

all builds will be free

up until the final game

probably

[gusty atlas]

Also is there a thing where you can go in "photo mode" and fly around to get cool pictures?

[celest plank]

idk

[gusty atlas]

I hope so🙏

Anyway thank you and goodnight

[celest plank]

lettuce go bro

i befriended the guest

[tawny yoke]

It's funny how all it takes is 1 cake

for him to be buddies with the player

[bronze steppe]

lol

[deft summit]

it's giving "You're the only person I've ever known who didn't treat me like a monster" energy

[bronze steppe]

i mean who doesnt like cakes yk

[tawny yoke]

I'm lowkey wondering if he's still going to be friendable in full release

or like something in amnesia the bunker

[deft summit]

I hope so

it'd give a way to have extra depth to the possible outcomes atleast

[tawny yoke]

where you can give the ghoul a plushie bunny and he recognizes it as a gift for his son

[tawny yoke]

thats true

I was just thinking

if it's gonna ruin guest's character

in a way that

the insane murderer who pretends to be a god can be friendly if given something of value to him

but that would also fit if it's aaron that is just majorly broken

[deft summit]

to me it's moreso the same impact that Piccolo's death has on me that gives this kind of idea of the Guest being friendable depth (in my head atleast)

[deft summit]

doesn't help that he's been treated like a curse (atleast to the book lore)

[tawny yoke]

I mean I kind of see it

honestly it could work as

a wild animal with a remaining little part of humanity he has deep inside

[deft summit]

it's just that the idea that it was something so small and simple as not treating him like a monster that sparks change, though of course gameplay-wise it probably would not be that simple if an idea like that were to be implemented

[tawny yoke]

that sounds really fitting honestly

I would imagine it implemented in a way like

a series of things player has to do

like maybe you need the guest to see something

like lead him to a place that would spark something in him

[deft summit]

if he's Aaron, the decaying Peterson household may be a good place for something like that

[tawny yoke]

yeah I thought that too

but idk if that wouldn't cause negative reaction maybe

it's where he was imprisoned afterall

also where he killed his sister

[deft summit]

maybe at first it makes him angry

[tawny yoke]

oh yeah wait

it could be like

if the game's point is exploring stuff etc

in different sessions

befriending the guest could be an order thing in a way like

if you lead him to peterson's residence, he gets really pissed off

but if you first maybe show him in some way that theodore still loves him

then lead him to the house he will react differently

thus making players try different things

[deft summit]

yo that might actually be a fire idea

I hope that if he is Aaron, and befriending him remains in the game, something like this is how you'd do it

[tawny yoke]

I just really hope that if he's really Aaron, and devs see that everyone are theorising it

and I hope it wont lead to changing the lore

[deft summit]

fortunately I don't think it's gonna be like that, after all they gave the hints for a reason they want us to get somewhat close

[tawny yoke]

thank god

I wonder if that could be like a red herring at some degree

like to make people think oh thats aaron for sure but that's someone else

but I doubt there's someone else who would have Friend-Monster relationship with the neighbor

[deft summit]

it'd require alot of stretching if so

there's only so much that can be done to try and throw us off and still have it make sense

[tawny yoke]

thats true I really like the idea of befriending him afterall

kinda gives off this "he was just a kid who had unfortunate things happen to him" vibe

[tawny yoke]

yeahh

but like a side note this is honestly the scariest guest iteration for me

like last time I played and wanted to befriend him

I stood in a danger zone

and it was so quiet

and then between the trees I saw this really quick figure charging at me

like dead silent

it was so eerie

[deft summit]

also, atleast according to the book lore, Aaron's pretty much been dehumanized by his father for a big portion of his life
getting referred to as a curse, the sheer anger Peterson displayed towards him, getting locked up many times by his own father
if he becomes the HN3 Guest, then it honestly makes sense

I think in the books he's even referred to himself as a curse

[tawny yoke]

oh I didn't know about this curse thing

then yeah that fits a lot

oh man

[deft summit]

oh yeah Book Peterson was horrid towards Aaron

[tawny yoke]

that makes a lot more sense now tbh

Like the curse thing it really fits the guest character in hn3

[deft summit]

infact I believe the reason why he even locks Aaron up (in the books) is both to protect Aaron, but also out of anger towards Aaron

[tawny yoke]

yeahh I get it

I wonder if Aaron thought that it's only out of anger and rage

[deft summit]

to Aaron he probably sees it that way

and if not, then he could still eventually grow to doubt any idea of protection

[tawny yoke]

honestly as you mentioned that he was referred to as a curse, him taking the identity of a supposed god or a character the town worships makes a lot more sense

because it is kind of interesting why he decided to dress up as something people worship

maybe it's to make people think that the character they believed in and worshipped isn't the savior they thought it is or something

and it actually kills people

[deft summit]

I'm not sure what Aaron's motive would be to do all of this, but I do have a pretty good feeling on how his mental state would even bring him to think of doing this

it's pretty much sold me on the idea of Aaron Guest (HN3 only)

[tawny yoke]

that's true

I'm also fully convinced thats the game

month ago I wasn't even sure if the guest that lurks in the forest is an actual god which just looks like a human 😭

[river gyro]

sooo basically similar to the game neighbor

[deft summit]

I specify because I don't know HOW MUCH of the book lore applies to the first game

or even the second and third games

[river gyro]

pretty sure he DOES abusse his children after the wife death in the books

[deft summit]

the curse thing for example I'm not 100% sure on, nor Peterson's anger motive

[deft summit]

in the books

he did it

the entire time

and only to Aaron

[river gyro]

yeah

[half wagon]

Could a 10 year old kid play HN3

[deft summit]

probably not but they're still gonna anyways

[river gyro]

what kinda question is that

😭

[deft summit]

also to add onto this, the curse thing I don't think has been mentioned atleast in the first game

and was something in the books that he started thinking after the many MANY failed attempts at opening up an amusement park with Aaron always being there

[river gyro]

the game curse thing was only mentioned in HN2 fg idk

i dont like the books plot, it's just about the curse stuff and that all

[deft summit]

if Nikita is open to bringing some of these ideas into the game lore though to give Aaron a motive to become the Guest (if he is the Guest in HN3, that is) then that'd definitely help make it impactful

[river gyro]

my boy aaron should have a character development

[deft summit]

it COULD happen since he did say one time, don't know where, that the first few books were pretty close to the lore of the first game

[river gyro]

yeah cuz nikita worked with carly

bla-bla-bla

[deft summit]

yeah it's definitely possible that all of that is why Aaron could theoretically go insane and start acting as some false god

[wicked moth]

When is the new character reveal??

[river gyro]

Aaron is already mentally insane in the first place

[river gyro]

pre-alpha just released boi

wdym??

[deft summit]

I WAS WRONG
it was "omen"

[tawny yoke]

still really fitting to hn3 guest narrative

[deft summit]

yeah it is I just hate that I got even just a little detail wrong

a bigger detail is whatever but this specifically makes me beat myself up

[empty shell]

i beat prototype 2 for the first time 😭

really cool prototype honestly i think i prefer this one and prototype 3 over pre alpha

[celest plank]

it feels like prototype 2 allowed you more than any other builds did

but multiple endings for pre alpha would take too much time tbf

and there will be multiple endings nontheless

[bronze steppe]

yup

[bronze steppe]

p2 is so peak ngl

[high brook]

Yea it felt more dynamic

[deft summit]

never got to actually play P2

only seen people play it

[river gyro]

vandal got killed by the weather

[empty shell]

he destroyed a generator and i didnt know how to get him up D:

[river gyro]

lets attend to his funeral

rest in peace, signed

[deft summit]

I think you have to stop him from destroying the generator entirely

[empty shell]

how tho

[deft summit]

I forgot

but there should be some videos on YT

[river gyro]

killing him>:)

(/j)

[unborn fox]

when hello nebor 3?

[unborn fox]

soonISH

[tawny yoke]

I am not so sure but I think you could take his breaking tool or something??

from what I remember

[bold siren]

My HN 3 Raking is:
Pre alpha>P2>P3>P1
(I didn't play RBO)

[ionic bay]

I hope there will be new news soon

[broken galleon]

hasn’t even been a month since pre alpha

[celest plank]

ye

[thick tendon]

What if Nicky is a composite image of the people who investigated the Neighbor case?

[mighty orchid]

What

[near meadow]

I hope he likes it

[trim pine]

Awww (idk why, but it's equally funny and cute for some reason)

[crude ravine]

You think nicky is just a symbol for who investigated the neighbor?

[narrow gust]

The guest is my bestie

[celest plank]

my sessions will officially start with befriending the guest

crazy advantage

[crude ravine]

Yeah

[trim pine]

Wouldn't it be easier to go through the hiking trail? Sure, it has a collapsed bridge dead end, but I hear some people have been jumping over it with food and ladders.

[crude ravine]

This is the way i found

[buoyant brook]

does anyone know if the prototype and earlier versions will be available on console once the game releases?

[narrow gust]

I wonder when we'll get a new character 🤔

tbh I don't think we'll get more

[near hawk]

We will get more

[narrow gust]

I'm assuming Nikita said this?

[near hawk]

Here

[narrow gust]

oh

cool

[narrow gust]

I wonder if we're being watched 👀

[crude ravine]

We have too less character currently

I think we'll get 2-3 more characters

[gleaming acorn]

they don't mean temporary removals like issac, they mean like a permenant new face

permanent*

rest in peace iris though

i need her back in my life

[crude ravine]

I know

[rigid jasper]

also have any of yall tried night in the woods it gives off a similar vibe to hn3 but alot livlier

i wont spoil but its peak

[crude ravine]

Old vs current

[tawny yoke]

at first I thought you suggested going out to the woods at night saying its similar to hn3

[blissful river]

New design is better

[versed ravine]

He looks shell-shocked in the old one

And the materials on his clothes and hat just look odd