hn3-discussion

[bronze phoenix]

at what time am i ur enemy

its better that way

[loud canyon]

it will be more grounded

[bronze phoenix]

multiplayer hn games are a mess

[cunning yacht]

Even if it’s grounded we still deserve to know what happened to Aaron

[bronze phoenix]

it will be answered in WTRB S3

[random shell]

Or HN3

[bronze phoenix]

maybe hn3 but aaron wont be a charather i think

[loud canyon]

there is a lot of context clues that the forest dweller is aaron

[cunning yacht]

But I thought WTRB was a diff universe thing in hn

[cunning yacht]

Like what

[bronze phoenix]

its like a retell

[gleaming acorn]

aaron falls into the hole and dies just like franklin trust me

[bronze phoenix]

of the Hello neighbor canon story i think

[flat tinsel]

ye ik, but I think it was a good idea to continue the project as a spin-off

[loud canyon]

Aaron is forest dweller

[bronze phoenix]

he does look like it

[loud canyon]

the relationship status code confirms it

[cunning yacht]

Is that not the guest ?

[bronze phoenix]

guest is aaron we think

[loud canyon]

its Aaron pretending to be the guest

the guest doesnt actually exist in HN3 and is just a urban legend like Slender Man or Bigfoot

[cunning yacht]

But how can Aaron be the guest if in hn2 he was young boy and guest was agile

[bronze phoenix]

thats why the guest does not attack neighbor

[gleaming acorn]

the townies treat it like a deity

[bronze phoenix]

hn2 takes place in 90s while hn3 take place in 2028

[loud canyon]

1. HN3 takes place 30 years after HN1

2. HN2 isnt canon to HN3 bc Nikita didnt work on that game

[cunning yacht]

Bruh what

Why even call it HN3 then

[bronze phoenix]

just because nikita dident work on the game dosent mean its not canon

it is canon

also when did u learn that?

[loud canyon]

How can it be canon if he doesnt know the story

[bronze phoenix]

Because its a hello neighbor game that is in the timeline

[mighty flax]

duh

[loud canyon]

there are million of sources of info that suggest Nikita left HN2 soon after Alpha 1.5 released

[bronze phoenix]

i know that, but it dosent mean it isnt canon

[loud canyon]

a HN game that never finished and was abandoned

[bronze phoenix]

it is finished?

if it isnt finished it would be stuck in alpha or beta

[loud canyon]

Then what happened to Quentin after he was dragged away

[bronze phoenix]

just because we are missing a patch update dosent mean that it isnt finished

[cunning yacht]

Bruh what channel in the discord does Nikita respond to things

[bronze phoenix]

this

[loud canyon]

all of them basically

mostly this one

[bronze phoenix]

yeah but he respond more here

[loud canyon]

HN2's story is unfinished

[bronze phoenix]

oh i thought u meant the game

but still

if its not finished

then how is it called Hn2

and Hn3 would be Hn2 if hn2 isnt finished

[loud canyon]

but even if HN2 is canon to HN3 its still 30 yrs later

[bronze phoenix]

this is common sense

[cunning yacht]

Hn2 is never gonna be “finished” or get a proper ending

[bronze phoenix]

its unfinished gameplay wise but it is story wise

[loud canyon]

HN3 is technically a HN2 as it takes place after act 3, its just not called HN2 bc that name is already taken by a unfinished game

[bronze phoenix]

act 3 is a dream

act 1 and 2 are real world events

[loud canyon]

Nikita stated that its not a dream

[tawny yoke]

its not really a dream

[loud canyon]

in this very server

[bronze phoenix]

then why we woke up

in ending

[random shell]

Is that confirmed?

[tawny yoke]

medieval ahh font

[bronze phoenix]

dident they say a while ago like in 2019 it is?

[loud canyon]

2026 info is more reliable than anything said in 2019

[bronze phoenix]

so hn1 half of the story is misread? by thousands? for years?

[loud canyon]

not officially stated but the code kinda confirms it

[cunning yacht]

Where are all the forest protectors

[loud canyon]

HN1 hasnt been out for thousands of years its only been 9

[cunning yacht]

Have they just been arrested and left raven brooks ?

[bronze phoenix]

no i mean thousands of people thought that

its a dream sequence

[loud canyon]

oh

nikita himself said its not a dream

let it go

[cunning yacht]

When hn3 releases will the guest still stand with his beak up ??

[loud canyon]

most likely

yea

[bronze phoenix]

then hn1 story dosent make sense

[cunning yacht]

I think his old design was WAY better

[bronze phoenix]

true. but the hn3 design is great and it fits the game

[loud canyon]

it does if you use your brain and realize its all symbolic of nickys trauma

[tawny yoke]

it still does

even if act 3 is not a dream

[loud canyon]

its a story about childhood trauma

[tawny yoke]

actually after nikita said what act 2 and 3 supposed to be its making even more sense than ever

[random shell]

HN3 version is way better

[cunning yacht]

Can we just let this convo go Nikita literally confirmed it

[loud canyon]

act 3 is the most reflective of that trauma

[bronze phoenix]

alright

is there gonna be a alpha 1/2/3 type of thing

or one alpha only

[cunning yacht]

Is there a channel to talk about welcome to raven brooks in here

[loud canyon]

theres most likely going to be multiple alphas

[bronze phoenix]

#hello-neighbor

[loud canyon]

the usual #hello-neighbor channel

[bronze phoenix]

tbh i dident like pre alpha as much as i love protos

[untold grotto]

they do not exists in hn3 story

[loud canyon]

as that channel is for discussing HN1, Hide and Seek, the books, the show, everything except HN3 pretty much

[bronze phoenix]

it rises alot of negetivity

[tawny yoke]

I think I lowkey prefer how guest is a god being that the town praise than there to be a cult centered around him

[cunning yacht]

They do

[loud canyon]

HN3's approach of the story of Raven Brooks is the best itiration ive seen

[bronze phoenix]

I think they should expand each building to make it more fun to explore

[tawny yoke]

thats true

[untold grotto]

can you show me any place that they did mentioned

[tawny yoke]

this

[bronze phoenix]

also what rises a question why does hn3 has more npcs then hn2 when hn3 is half abandoned and hn2 is thriving

[cunning yacht]

I meant that they existed in that timeline but probs won’t appear in hn3

[bronze phoenix]

they wont.

[untold grotto]

no they did not

existed

[tawny yoke]

I think comparing hn2 and hn3 is not very wise

[night vigil]

100%

[loud canyon]

again, bc HN2 is hardly connected to HN3 at all

[tawny yoke]

completely 2 separate visions of the world

[bronze phoenix]

also hn1 there is one Npc (if u dont count the dreams)

[cunning yacht]

My only problem
Is although he still looks good mr Peterson build has completely changed compared to the first 2

[loud canyon]

Nikita always wanted HN to be about a eerie town with dynamic citizens

[bronze phoenix]

he is 85 years old

[loud canyon]

this game is the dream game Nikita always wanted to make

[cunning yacht]

Yes but he dosent like a single thing alike the other games

[bronze phoenix]

i think adding a graudual story progression makes the game too easy

[loud canyon]

?

thats a silly statement

[bronze phoenix]

u can skip half of the game with this

so if u beat it

[loud canyon]

the game is trial and error its not easy at all on the first playthrough

[untold grotto]

but you need to play it for like few hours to do this

[bronze phoenix]

yeah but if i do a mistake i hit restart and all is saved

[loud canyon]

unless you ruined the game by looking up tutorials in which case you shouldnt be playing at all if you watched vids prior

[cunning yacht]

I hope for HN3 that the npc’s aren’t like green an purple coloured but skin coloured to be realistic

[tawny yoke]

first playthrough took me like 4 hours so I think it works

[bronze phoenix]

what about second playthough

[untold grotto]

the current artstyle will be staying

[loud canyon]

you wont know how to beat it unless you played for at least an hour or looked up videos

[tawny yoke]

I don't get why people dislike the artstyle so much

[bronze phoenix]

it took me 3 hours (dont make fun)

[tawny yoke]

its must be one of the most unique ones in media

[bronze phoenix]

how? the art style is perfect

[cunning yacht]

I like the art style but having humans litrelly be green

[bronze phoenix]

but like

[loud canyon]

the way they look now is how itll be for the full game

[untold grotto]

i kinda see their point because its like imagine GTA 6 is out and every character has unhuman skin colors

[loud canyon]

the skin color is PART of the artstyle dude

[untold grotto]

i would love the style but its also does not fit with franchise

or like

the franchise is not used to be unhuman skin colors

[cunning yacht]

Yes and it’s ameant to be eerie and the baker looks like shrek ?

[untold grotto]

would be better wording

[tawny yoke]

I mean yeah it could come off as weird after having the rest of the games have more realistic proportions and colors

[loud canyon]

im sorry but HN3's artstyle is the best this series has looked visually and will actually attract more players

[tawny yoke]

I agree

[bronze phoenix]

look l like the story
its way better then last protos
and also the exploration is so good
but the one problem i have
is second playthoughs
people like me love playing games multiple times
which feels empty since i can skip half of the story and go to act 3 of the game
other then that i give pre alpha a 8/10

[cunning yacht]

HN3 needs hn2 marketing when it comes close to release tho or it won’t sell as well

Like they got a whole mr beast video to advertise hello neighbour 2

[bronze phoenix]

even with mr beast it dident save the reviews...

[random shell]

Who and what do you mean?

[untold grotto]

literally throwing money to trash can

[cunning yacht]

Yes but it still got lots of sells

Thanks to the marketing

[tawny yoke]

yeah they advertised the game as having the best ai ever and it was the same stuff as always where the enemy walks between 2 rooms

[untold grotto]

not because of mr beast

[cunning yacht]

And hn3 will definitely need marketing

[bronze phoenix]

yeah but a devs dream is to see people like the game

[loud canyon]

that and also its reflective in the artstyle of a corporate depressing vibe due to the fact we play as a golden apple corporation employee, the vice president no less

[untold grotto]

it will have eventually theres no need to do marketing when the game is not even alpha

[random shell]

I feel like they need to use Youtubers to market the game like the first one

[cunning yacht]

Is it confirmed we play as the women golden apple vice president

[tawny yoke]

yeah

[untold grotto]

have you played the build

[cunning yacht]

Yes

[random shell]

It says she’s the vice president trying to get a report to become the president

[untold grotto]

im pretty sure its like first thing you see when you launched the game

[cunning yacht]

But is that just for the pre alpha or hn 3

[tawny yoke]

hn3

[bronze phoenix]

what i dont get about the story is why father is dissapointed with us i mean its BOB's fault not us

[random shell]

Simplified summary

[loud canyon]

thats not necessary, the days of Youtubers being a reliable source of info or content died as most youtubers spread misinfo these days

[tawny yoke]

it's the idea of the core story

[untold grotto]

pre alpha narrative is part of full games narrative

its the canon story, if you will

[bronze phoenix]

hn3 has good story but meh gameplay

[loud canyon]

Pre alpha is the canon story theyll just add more onto it over time as the game develops

[cunning yacht]

I don’t get how golden apple still has employees is that not another plot hole ??

[random shell]

We’re probably his boss and something we decided for him to do

[untold grotto]

its your fault to being unable to look after the employee working under you

[bronze phoenix]

oh

[untold grotto]

hn3 is its own story, do not take other medias as its prequel

[cunning yacht]

AND THE TOWN IS ABANDONED??

[untold grotto]

yes

[cunning yacht]

Why does it have employees ??

[bronze phoenix]

cause its a company

[random shell]

That’s what I respect about HN3, a full reset

[bronze phoenix]

not releated to raven brooks

[cunning yacht]

None of the park rides are gonna be moving ate they ?

[loud canyon]

bc the company is not based in raven brooks

[untold grotto]

GA is founded on RB, but its country level company now

weather station was their first facility

[random shell]

What type of company was it? I read the books once, but I don’t remember what they said it was so about.

[untold grotto]

and they abandoned the area few years before the game

[cunning yacht]

So is golden apple in raven brooks or like on the outskirts

[bronze phoenix]

i think that the first facility ever of the company is in raven brooks but it expanded till like the whole tri county

[tawny yoke]

I hope this game will clean up the story a little bit

[loud canyon]

golden apple is a worldwide company

[untold grotto]

thats why people like janusz and jacob took over the GA buildings

[tawny yoke]

because it was kind of mess before

[bronze phoenix]

and we ordered bob to go to raven brooks to see the first facility

[loud canyon]

not just raven brooks

[civic totem]

We don't know that

[loud canyon]

raven brooks is just the companies humble beginnings

[untold grotto]

we know that it is country level

nikita confirmed that

[loud canyon]

oh my god yes we do

[bronze phoenix]

that answers jensen's question

[loud canyon]

stop spreading misinfo

[random shell]

What type of company is it? A weather company?

[civic totem]

Where

[untold grotto]

just search it up

[tawny yoke]

im crine

[bronze phoenix]

a report company

that make reports

[untold grotto]

its like all of sectors

[tawny yoke]

hello neighbor company

[untold grotto]

cinema

[tawny yoke]

that makes neighbors

[untold grotto]

weather station

[tawny yoke]

hostile and evil neighbors

[untold grotto]

amusement park

[loud canyon]

its kinda a bit of everything

[untold grotto]

gas station etc

[bronze phoenix]

so thier job is to see all cinemas/amusment parks/stores to see if they are certified?

[untold grotto]

even book publishing

[cunning yacht]

I hope mr Peterson acc has a story in this game and isn’t just another boss

[untold grotto]

no

[bronze phoenix]

what is thier main job around the globe

[civic totem]

Huh #hn3-discussion message

[tawny yoke]

they do stuff

[loud canyon]

i mean he clearly killed Bob Novak considering he has the report and bob is missing

[untold grotto]

theres no main job of them

they do like everything

[bronze phoenix]

why did bob novak enter villain arc and say to all stores in raven brooks to shut down

[untold grotto]

because GA is not in RB anymore

[civic totem]

It's not misinfo #hn3-discussion message

[random shell]

I’m not comparing it to this wide of a scale, but like Disney because I have different corporations

[untold grotto]

the employees in it is people who took the buildings after GA people left the area

[loud canyon]

bc Golden Apple wants to empty the town for experiments

[civic totem]

No

[loud canyon]

Nikita literally says "country-level"

[bronze phoenix]

to make more facilitys?

[untold grotto]

thats why he is shutting down a A rated property

[tawny yoke]

can GA be called conglomerate company

[cunning yacht]

Did mr Peterson and bob novak hook up ?!? @loud canyon

[civic totem]

They don't

[untold grotto]

no

[untold grotto]

yeah

[random shell]

That sounds right

[loud canyon]

"defginitely whole country-level"

learn to read

[bronze phoenix]

also another question is bob ordered to go to see the weather station or is it his personal agenda

[untold grotto]

we dont know

[cunning yacht]

Will Franklin Peterson be in this game

[civic totem]

Bro you said that it was a worldwide company

[tawny yoke]

https://tenor.com/view/ishowspeed-speed-random-kid-random-kid-gif-10698606526004440975

[bronze phoenix]

he says "i cant wait to go" in a note and another note says "i must check it out"

[random shell]

TBD I guess

[untold grotto]

well actually its probably his personal thing to do look to first facility

[tawny yoke]

they didnt: sob

[untold grotto]

no

[cunning yacht]

Why is kliv so salty bro

[untold grotto]

nikita does not even know Franklin

[tawny yoke]

I am so salty

[civic totem]

"golden apple is a worldwide company"

[tawny yoke]

eat my salt

[bronze phoenix]

i think town got angry at bob

so thats why he got missing

[random shell]

I don’t know if he plays a huge role just in the TV show right now. I think HN3 is focusing on its own thing.

[civic totem]

@tawny yoke

[loud canyon]

the weather station is the first location ever made by GA, so he wanted to go there specifically but Neighbor was there so Bob is as good as dead

[bronze phoenix]

so neighbor killed bob?

[untold grotto]

presumably

[grim lark]

It wouldnt be surprising

[loud canyon]

i mean bob went to the weather station

[cunning yacht]

No the neighbour kissed bob

[grim lark]

Or the Dweller got him

[loud canyon]

Neighbor is there

bob is gone, and neighbor has the report

[random shell]

The historian did. trust

[loud canyon]

its clear either neighbor killed him, hid him somewhere or forest dweller got him and gave theodore the report

[random shell]

He explored the museum and she threw him out the window, and then the guest brought him to the neighbor

[tawny yoke]

oh wait true my bad

[cunning yacht]

Is the forest dweller the guest ?

[tawny yoke]

he mimics the guest

[untold grotto]

the "guest"

[bronze phoenix]

maybe he tried to get the lever in the museum then failed and desided to go to the forest trail to the amusment park and guest catched him

[loud canyon]

the forest dweller is aaron pretending to be the guest

[bronze phoenix]

am i right

or wrong

[cunning yacht]

So is the real guest appearing in this game or nah

[tawny yoke]

real guest is probably isn't even real

it's a symbol

[loud canyon]

we dont even know if there is a real guest

[random shell]

I don’t think that’s right I thought he said somewhere in the server that he’s not bringing old characters into the game as the main priority

[untold grotto]

no, its not real

[loud canyon]

The Neighbor is an old character

[random shell]

Obviously, he’s gonna be in it

I don’t think there’s explanation there

[untold grotto]

he said he will not be using old characters just because of fan service

[bronze phoenix]

yeah it isnt a hello neighbor game without him

[tawny yoke]

I think it was more about hn2 cast etc

[untold grotto]

its being aaron more likely than a random dude in costume

[bronze phoenix]

i have a idea for iris since she is a problem solver maybe she could be mayor of the town

[loud canyon]

The forest dweller is afraid of the neighbor. The Neighbor sees dweller as a friend, why would the neighbor see him that way if he was a random dude in a suit and not aaron

[untold grotto]

only if she was not scrapped

[loud canyon]

lets use our brains

[random shell]

Is Aaron that tall the guest looks taller than the neighbor

Much slender

[bronze phoenix]

i mean if we push the idea

it might happen

[loud canyon]

to be fair aaron is an adult now

[untold grotto]

he is like 40

[cunning yacht]

I just want Quentin to come back

[loud canyon]

its been 30 yrs

[bronze phoenix]

since yall say hn2 isnt canon nor he

[loud canyon]

quentin is not coming back im pretty sure

[untold grotto]

well not to mention that the kidnappings started in 2008, in aarons 20s

[grim lark]

Some guy in the omori server mentioned Jacob from hn3

We are noticed

[random shell]

I think the only time we’re gonna hear about Quentin again is the show

[cunning yacht]

Bruh Aaron must of escaped by now if it’s been 30 years he is defo not in the town still

[tawny yoke]

I wonder if that's really aaron then why is he doing that

[loud canyon]

Aaron never escaped

hes been under Theodores thumb this whole time

[bronze phoenix]

dang

[bronze phoenix]

did he chose to or theo made him

[random shell]

But was that HN2 cannon

[loud canyon]

Prob bc Theodore made him that traumatized

[tawny yoke]

yeahh that's probably the case

[untold grotto]

he also goes to place of reflection and cries

or something

[loud canyon]

bit of both, Mr Peterson has always been an abusive yet caring father

[cunning yacht]

What if the neighbour and bob are making out in secret

[bronze phoenix]

Guys which npc in ur opinion (except neighbor) is the best npc

[bronze phoenix]

bro...

[cunning yacht]

None of them bcs they don’t have normal skin tone

[loud canyon]

the actual code suggests Aaron is the forest dweller

and hes still afraid of Theodore

[random shell]

It was Iris now signed I like his whistling

[loud canyon]

while theodore still loves aaron bc its his son

[untold grotto]

and he is also proud of his own doing

he is pratically an killing machine now

[bronze phoenix]

thats eerie

[loud canyon]

? thats a weird thing to say, its part of the artstyle

[cunning yacht]

Is the museum in the game the same one mr Peterson hid in at the end of hn2

[grim lark]

No.

[bronze phoenix]

no

[random shell]

Probably not

[cunning yacht]

Not rlly bcs one of them litrelly looks like shrek

[bronze phoenix]

its a different museum

[cunning yacht]

Alr

[grim lark]

I recommend you let go of the skin tone topic.

[bronze phoenix]

kinda racist when u think about it

[random shell]

I think people thought it was like a placeholder the skin tones

[cunning yacht]

Not rlly bcs I don’t mind if they are black or white just not bright green or purple

[loud canyon]

the game is based off psychonauts and other artistic medias where characters have unique skin colour to reflect their characters better

[bronze phoenix]

whats wrong with purple and green it matches the envoiorment

[grim lark]

I really like the colourful art

[cunning yacht]

It goes against the “eerie vibe “ having the bright green go against the gloomy colours

[loud canyon]

if you see a green character and think shrek youre clearly not mature enough for this game

[grim lark]

It feels more personal than most of Nikita’s other works

[random shell]

I I like the aesthetic of the game and the character models. They look like they have more soul in them than the second game.

[cunning yacht]

What are you on abt bro 💔

[bronze phoenix]

it fits the eerie vibe

[tawny yoke]

it is eerie when they are different colors because it feels unnatural

[bronze phoenix]

hes right

tbh

[grim lark]

Guys, drop the skin topic

[loud canyon]

its not a bright green and its eerie

[grim lark]

Now.

[bronze phoenix]

ok tuff guy

[cunning yacht]

Real tuff bro 😎

[surreal temple]

.

[tawny yoke]

I think this game's character designs are the best from the whole franchise

[grim lark]

A recommendation

[bronze phoenix]

dont copy my words bruh

[bronze phoenix]

idk tbh jensen aggravated us all with the topic

[cunning yacht]

Copied one of ur words

[loud canyon]

Zane is right this conversation is pointless. If you cant see the artistic value behind the unique visuals and skin colours being exaugurated, then youre not reliable for discussions on this game

[cunning yacht]

I can see the artistic value but saying I can’t have a discussion is immature just bcs I have a diff opinion ?

[loud canyon]

the skin colors are not literal theyre artistic and metaphorical. They reflect the eerie visuals of the town and having characters with inhuman skin colors give off the vibe that this world is unique and eerie

[loud canyon]

considering you stated that the characters that have green skin look like shrek, i dont think you have the footing to state what is and isnt mature

[cunning yacht]

If shrek is green how is it immature to compare another green character to him ?

[loud canyon]

im also stating that you lack the knowledge of artistic value that makes this game visually unique

and engaging in a conversation that focuses on a game that sorta requires that knowledge to see value in said game is kinda pointless

[cunning yacht]

How is me just having a diff opinion meaning I have a lack of knowledge

I see the artistic value and what Nikita is trying to do and just bcs I disagree with that dosent mean I shouldn’t have an opinion ? And then you call me immature

[loud canyon]

im not saying you shouldnt have an opinion

it just seems like you lack the basic understanding of this specific artstyle

plus "i hate the characters bc of their skin color" is definitely not an opinion thats just a childish comment

[loud canyon]

you directly stated you dont like any of the characters bc of their skin color

[cunning yacht]

When did I say I hate the character bcs of their skin colour ??

[quartz sequoia]

that's just borderline racism

[cunning yacht]

Reply to the message ?

[loud canyon]

here

[cunning yacht]

Where does that say hate in it ?

[loud canyon]

the question was asking which npc is the best you said none which is implying hate

[cunning yacht]

But you said I said hate ?

[loud canyon]

what you said is literally implying you dislike all the npcs due to skin tone

[quartz sequoia]

what is even happening

[cunning yacht]

Disagreeing with the artstyle isn’t racism ?

[loud canyon]

you arent disagreeing with the artstyle you are specifically criticizing skin color

[cunning yacht]

These are animated/painted characters that clearly aren’t black or white

And skin tone being a colour such as green as purple takes me out of the eerie realistic vibe

[quartz sequoia]

Look at Iris and Almira and tell me they aren't black or atleast based off black people

[loud canyon]

this is what i mean, youve proved my point

this conversation is over im not engaging any further

[cunning yacht]

I thought iris was pink coloured how could you possibly assume she’s black ?

[tawny yoke]

I agree with that I also think Iris and Almira are black coded

[rigid tulip]

Wsp yall

[loud canyon]

the skin colors arent meant to reflect how they look literally IRL, the purples and the greens are symbolics to whites and blacks

[cunning yacht]

You stated something I don’t say and accused me of racism just bcs I disagree with and art style of painted thinngs

[loud canyon]

let it go bruh its over

[cunning yacht]

That’s my point of why it takes me out the game and it’s just an opinion

[quartz sequoia]

use your eyes

[loud canyon]

if skin color of fictional characters is all it takes to take you out of a game then idk why youre even in the server

[cunning yacht]

All I said was I disagree with the art style bro 💔

[quartz sequoia]

are you rage baiting

[loud canyon]

an "opinion" mind you would say "personally i dont vibe with the coloring style of the game"
what you said was "the skin color of characters take me out of the game" which comes off as hate speech

[quartz sequoia]

Someone doesn't like the skin color of hn3 characters

[cunning yacht]

That’s you being immature and taking it out of proportion when I clearly wasn’t being racially motivated ?

[loud canyon]

jensen stated that the color style of certain characters in HN3 makes the game unenjoyable for them, and multiple people have tried to explain its a fundamental part of the art style

and instead of correcting themselves they call anyone who disagrees with them childish

[cunning yacht]

Let me state for one final time my opinion on the Npc : in my opinion hn3 was meant to be a more realistic eerie vibe of a game compared to the first 2 and when I see green and purple toned characters that dosent seem realistic it’s gonna take me out of the realistic vibe of the game

[loud canyon]

HN3 is not focused on hyper realism

sure it has realistic aspects

and is based on real visuals

but still has somewhat of an artstyle to it

like that of a tim burton film

hence why the characters arent just real life skin tones

[tawny yoke]

I feel like if they had real skin colors that would look really off and unfitting

[cunning yacht]

But the neighbour does and everyone here said they liked his design

[tawny yoke]

he still is hue shifted a little bit to green

[loud canyon]

i do recommend researching media's like psychonauts and hey arnold, and other medias nikita was inspired by for this game, it may shed some light on your perspective

[loud canyon]

he has a zombieish green tint to him

[tawny yoke]

and that would be weird if he was suddenly blue

[cunning yacht]

And that’s why I like the neighbours design out of all the Npc the most bcs in my opinions he fits in the most with the artstyle of raven brooks

[tawny yoke]

but I still think it could work if done correctly

[loud canyon]

i love a lot of these characters, neighbor is my fav but from what we got im starting to like Januzs as well

[quartz sequoia]

I love how accurate mr Peterson looks to his concept art

[tawny yoke]

and honestly all those colors are not so vibrant

its not pure blue or green

[loud canyon]

theyre faded and decaying

[tawny yoke]

it fits the atmosphere perfectly

[tawny yoke]

this redesign is so peak

[loud canyon]

look here, hes clearly greenish

[tawny yoke]

also can guest just access the player anywhere as it gets dark

[loud canyon]

yes

[tawny yoke]

because that's what I got from my playthroughs

okay alright

[loud canyon]

he can even enter the mayak after the storm is active

[tawny yoke]

hard photo

like some cryptid sighting footage

[loud canyon]

i have a lot of awesome screenshots that belong on a poster

[tawny yoke]

I have so much hope for this game

[quick crow]

I wish the photos you take on the photo cameras could be saved to your steam😭

[loud canyon]

this one definitely scared me stiff

[quick crow]

Fyi if you get to the mayak before the storm starts i'm pretty sure you can just see the neighbor standing still in the lounge room I think

[cunning yacht]

Does anyone know how many Npc’s Nikita is aiming to have in the final game as ik he said in a devlog but I forgot

[loud canyon]

idk if he stays at one spot

his movement is random

[loud canyon]

no confirmed answer, it depends on how development goes

[quick crow]

I hope they re-introduce what they had planned from the ai rundown video

[loud canyon]

he did state he wants to add as many as around 18 or so characters

but we will see

[quick crow]

Damn-

also fun fact, if you befriend a character (besides the vandals) the cameras in their homes don't detect you

[loud canyon]

the AI will be quite advanced in HN3s final game dont worry

[cunning yacht]

I rlly want it to have lots of npcs but I wonder if that would defeat the idea of raven brooks being abandoned

[quick crow]

It's not really abandoned more like, empty?

[loud canyon]

a town with only 18 - 30 citizens is still half abandoned

[quick crow]

I have a really good feeling about hn3 though

I just hope they improve the ai a little next build

[cunning yacht]

Same my only worry is loose plot holes but apart from that I think it’ll save the franchise

[quick crow]

I'm fine with the plot holes for now, it is the early builds after all.

[cunning yacht]

But the neighbour probs won’t be able to be in a hn4 so hn3 will probs be last hello neighbour game

[cunning yacht]

Yes now’s fine but for release I’d rlly hope for it to be sorted out

[loud canyon]

HN3 isnt gonna fix most of other HN medias plotholes but it definitely will be a pretty good self contained narrative

[quick crow]

One thing I also hope gets changed is the map layout, it's great as it is right now but it can get confusing sometimes. Especially with the golden apple theme park section.

Also I have to say this, I love all the new building designs.

[loud canyon]

the map is staying but will get altered slightly as time goes on

[quick crow]

I just hope that all the empty houses and buildings eventually get decorated even if no npcs are in them;

[loud canyon]

they plan to be

[quartz sequoia]

hello neighbor is the type of game where you don't need to play the other games to play a sequel

[opal creek]

how to fix this?

[quartz sequoia]

win a penalty game

and this is the wrong chat

[opal creek]

how or what that mean

[deft summit]

they can't just keep changing the map over and over

they've already decided since Prototype 3 that this is the last big map change

[deft summit]

any and all changes now will only be tweaks like maybe a building needs to be updated

maybe a new building gets added

[quartz sequoia]

cough cough Mayak

[deft summit]

maybe some more decoration

[cunning yacht]

Wait

[deft summit]

oh yeah the Mayak absolutely will be getting updated

don't think it was in P3 either

[cunning yacht]

I think I found a plothole/ theory

I think the crow-guest is

Diane Peterson

[deft summit]

HN2/WTRB Guest is still pretty unknown

but from what I can tell

he isn't supernatural

[quick crow]

No?

[deft summit]

or they in this conversation

[quick crow]

Theres a higher chance of it being aaron

[cunning yacht]

I hope it isn’t Aaron

[deft summit]

no but the HN3 Forest Dweller could be

[quartz sequoia]

oh yeah isn't the forest dweller literally scared of mr Peterson

[deft summit]

the HN2/WTRB Guest can't be Aaron

[cunning yacht]

Yes that’s true

[deft summit]

but the HN3 Forest Dweller (the "Guest") can

[deft summit]

he sees Peterson as a monster yes

while Peterson sees the Forest Dweller as a friend

[cunning yacht]

Wait do we even know for sure that the first from hn2 isn’t the same as first from hn3

[deft summit]

and their friend states pretty much are relevant to the lore of HN3

[deft summit]

yes

[quartz sequoia]

hn2 isn't canon

[deft summit]

Nikita said he does not know the HN2 Guest

[deft summit]

no it's canon

[quartz sequoia]

not to the main lore atleast to my understanding

[deft summit]

dude

it pretty much IS the main lore

[cunning yacht]

Like who he is ?

[deft summit]

yeah

[cunning yacht]

Ah right

[deft summit]

he's doing his own thing for the HN3 Guest

[quartz sequoia]

is it?

[cunning yacht]

I think that guest in the Halloween update is THE GUEST in my eyes

I liked the way he moved

[deft summit]

most of the book stuff, the fact the cartoon was meant to tie onto it (it only exists for that reason actually)

infact the Guest was only meant to be added as well as the entirety of Act 2 once the cartoon started getting into the cult stuff as well

people say it's inconsistent but no it really isn't

[cunning yacht]

For wtrb season 3 it’s confirmed we are seeing the acc guest

[deft summit]

HN2 is actually MORE consistent than the cartoon is

yeah it's the definitive origin story for THAT Guest

now as for the HN3 Guest

[loud canyon]

i told you that in vc yesterday

the whole plot of HN is based around it

[quartz sequoia]

I dont remember 😭

[deft summit]

all we know is his relationship with Peterson isn't great and that he's not the real Guest (for the real Guest is the symbol of Raven Brooks, the mascot)

[loud canyon]

its the starting point of Mr Peterson and his base of operations now

[deft summit]

also remember HN2 was gonna have alot of stuff related to the cult

the town was gonna get destroyed

[loud canyon]

yea

good times

[deft summit]

I'm 90% sure the cartoon will reuse ideas from the Act 2

[cunning yacht]

I acc wish the opening of hn3 is seeing like a small montage of the town and how ppl leave or if the cult did smth to it

[deft summit]

the cult is probably dead

[quartz sequoia]

weren't we talking about smth else

[deft summit]

they either die from Peterson or die peacefully

[loud canyon]

we was DIRECTLY discussing what the mayak is

[deft summit]

according to Nikita

the Mayak explains all

[cunning yacht]

Atleast we have some co firmed lore for hn3

[quartz sequoia]

yeah not hn2 😭

[cunning yacht]

When is hn3 releasing anyways

[quartz sequoia]

when it releases

[deft summit]

alright then how about this, almost all of the cult stuff you can find in either HN2 Act 1 or planned stuff from Act 2

[loud canyon]

prob 2028

[deft summit]

HN2 does not retcon anything, any inconsistency is the fault of the cartoon (which we already knew that)

[cunning yacht]

Jesus I’ll be 13 then

[deft summit]

and even then it's pretty damn consistent to the overall lore regardless

the only thing that may be shakey is the fact that now there's multiple versions of the Guest thanks to the books and HN3

oh and the VR game

[loud canyon]

the cartoon is a different continuity and as of now HN2 is a elseworld story disconnected from HN3

[deft summit]

and the graphic novels

[deft summit]

disconnected

not uncanon

[quartz sequoia]

[loud canyon]

different timeline to an extent

[cunning yacht]

[quartz sequoia]

you're joking right

[deft summit]

that part is just objectively false especially after we've been told it's not "uncanon", it's just not relevant

[deft summit]

also wdym you're not at the minimum limit of 13

[cunning yacht]

[loud canyon]

hence why its an elseworld story

[deft summit]

I don't think that's true either

[cunning yacht]

I’m jk

[deft summit]

rule number 1 of Discord, never joke about your age
they have banned people for it

[quartz sequoia]

what even was planned?

[deft summit]

we don't have alot but what we do have doesn't seem inconsistent

[loud canyon]

well considering nikita doesnt know the story of HN2 it isnt connected to HN3 really

and HN3 is connected to HN1 so

[cunning yacht]

I think mr Peterson is gonna touch the guest somewhere in hn3 and get immortality and supernatural powers

[deft summit]

again not connected but I do not think he's going out of his way to decanonize it or anything in that regard

[quartz sequoia]

||it's like hn2 is an alternative reality||

[deft summit]

he's just not building off of it

[loud canyon]

yea fair

[deft summit]

I don't think that's true either

[quartz sequoia]

I was making a joke

[deft summit]

alt realities have not been confirmed

nor alternate timelines

[cunning yacht]

He defo knows the story

[loud canyon]

no he doesnt

he didnt work on the game

[deft summit]

basically Quentin gets freed by the Guest, he somehow escapes the cult's lair, and somewhere along the way he angers the Guest (which leads to the forest section) and somewhere along the way the town gets destroyed by a storm with Peterson's house getting caught on fire

[quartz sequoia]

you do know Nikita quit temporarily after hn2 a1.5 right?

[cunning yacht]

Yeah but he obvs knows abt Quentin and the cliff hanger

[loud canyon]

what makes you think that

[deft summit]

he knows Quentin's last name according to his Yellow Press storyline

that is about it

the Quentin we get in the full release isn't the same character

[cunning yacht]

Isn’t it abit unprofessional to be having the responsibility of hn3 and not even knowing the story of hn2

[deft summit]

we're also not gonna get anything related to what happened to him in HN3

[loud canyon]

HN3 also wont continue HN2's story at all but also doesnt decanonize its plot

[deft summit]

because HN3 is in 2028, HN2 is 1996

[deft summit]

they don't have to continue HN2

he doesn't have to know HN2

[cunning yacht]

I like the neighbours car I hope that comes back

[loud canyon]

thats not nikitas concern as he wasnt a part of the team

[deft summit]

he's done a pretty good job at not debunking HN2, the only thing that could be a concern is how rhe HN3 real Guest isn't an actual entity and is just a mascot

[loud canyon]

his goal is making a game that continues the story of HN1 many years later, that way it doesnt damage the story of HN2

[deft summit]

but even then you could just say that the HN2/WTRB Guest isn't in any way tied to the symbol of Raven Brooks

[loud canyon]

you could argue the guest in HN2 is just a forest dweller tho

[deft summit]

and we already know he's not tied to the HN3 Forest Dweller

[deft summit]

well

no we can't

WTRB hasn't revealed the definitive origin story yet

we can theorize it but never provide it as fact until we know for sure it is

[loud canyon]

wtrb isnt canon to the games

the story is too fundamentally different

[deft summit]

does not matter

[cunning yacht]

Someone Has to Suffer for Someone Else to Soar

[deft summit]

OBJECTIVELY does not matter

Alex already confirmed his origin story in WTRB is definitive

plus HN2 was not allowed to use the Guest much because of the cartoon

so even if you think they're a different continuity there is a connection still

[cunning yacht]

The real guest will be Franklin Peterson

[deft summit]

primarily the HN2/WTRB Guest's origin story

[floral lotus]

Genuine question what is the Guest ive still gotta get caught up on lore

[deft summit]

maybe for the non-HN3 Guest

absolutely NOT for HN3 though

[quartz sequoia]

he and his team were literally milked dry

[cunning yacht]

Like a cows udders

[deft summit]

the real HN3 Guest is more likely just the mascot depiction, the symbol of Raven Brooks

the "God"

[cunning yacht]

I would love to live the live of Mya Peterson

Foolish mortals…

[deft summit]

https://tenor.com/view/goku-black-gif-733126743464602576

[indigo peak]

Do y'all think we get to see who hit Quentin in hn2 in hn3

[ocean marsh]

Finally beat the game

[last lotus]

Great job dude!

[quick crow]

Found a new junkyard building (fanmade! Credits to kokosko, he made the mod that allowed me to place down all those props and objects)

[chrome frigate]

I think they should've kept Jacob as main character, He fits in more than Alma imo

[quick crow]

Then that means there would be 2 jacobs? The npc and the player

[chrome frigate]

Then make alma the npc

Ez

[quick crow]

I guess that could work ig

[chrome frigate]

Ye

[quick crow]

Nikita DID say he was aiming for atleast 18 characters in hn3

[chrome frigate]

Cool

[high brook]

wasnt it 25?

[blissful river]

I disagree. I like the new character, jacob works better as a citizen.

He feels more like someone that would live in RB unlike alma.

[chrome frigate]

I don't understand the hype on alma, I see her pretty mid, and design not as good as jacob

[blissful river]

Again I disagree lol.

[chrome frigate]

Though jasuz should've been main

[blissful river]

I think its as good as jacob.

[chrome frigate]

Yeah idk

Yall can hype for alma

[quick crow]

I think alma is arguably the best main character design so far

aside from beatrix

[chrome frigate]

https://tenor.com/view/help-gif-9858523764566581784

Pre alpha man

(Goat)

Nicky

Jacob

[quick crow]

OMG YES WE CANT FORGET HIM

[chrome frigate]

Thankfully

[quick crow]

The design for nicky felt way too cartoony in my opinion

[chrome frigate]

Yeah

Maybe because of how cartoony the game was

But I honestly liked it

[quick crow]

thank god the hn1 artstyle is dead and buried now...I hope

[chrome frigate]

Back in alpha 2 and 3 ofc

[quick crow]

pre alpha was peak hello neighbor 1

[chrome frigate]

Yeah

But what makes pre alpha better than alpha 1

Alpha 1 has more gameplay

[quick crow]

I just realised HN3 is the first game of the franchise to allow players to play its prototype builds

[chrome frigate]

And improvements

[quick crow]

hear me out, the artstyle in alpha 2 was really good. I loved the stylised and realistic look of it.

[chrome frigate]

True

[quick crow]

hn3 artstyle is better than the last 2 games too

If the hn3 artstyle becomes ugly on final release Im actually going to refund hn1 and hn2

[chrome frigate]

Yeah

Though leave the artstyle

[quick crow]

Also throwback to when I acidentally paid for the hello neighbor 2 playtest on acident

[chrome frigate]

The gameplay

[chrome frigate]

https://tenor.com/view/monkey-shocked-monkey-disappointed-disappointed-monkey-gif-25631537

[quick crow]

I just hope hn3 alpha 1 will have more dynamic AI

I would love to see the butterfly effect actually come into play

[chrome frigate]

Same

And i hope different mc

Even if it's not jacob

Just not alma

[quartz sequoia]

alpha 1 and pre alpha are so overrated

of hn1

[chrome frigate]

Ragebaiting

[quick crow]

rightfully so, they are amazing LOL

[quartz sequoia]

literally how

[chrome frigate]

Then what's better?

[quartz sequoia]

Alpha 1 is so short and pre alpha barely has anything

[quick crow]

Anyways moving on from the ragebait

[quartz sequoia]

literally any other build?

[chrome frigate]

Alpha 4

ALPHA 4

[quick crow]

This old image from before the first hn3 prototype released looks sick

It was from the old hn3 steam page

[dim prawn]

true

[quartz sequoia]

lowkey my favorite is alpha 3

[dim prawn]

they have almost nothing cool or interesting

[quick crow]

Although alpha 1 may be short, buggy, laggy, basically whatever. Its a peak example of what hn1 COULDVE been.

[chrome frigate]

True

[dim prawn]

alpha 3 has great atmosphere

[quartz sequoia]

elaborate

please

[quick crow]

The artstyle, animations and just that scary but cozy feeling.

[chrome frigate]

Yes because the game graphics wasn't finished they made it all night

[quartz sequoia]

the animations are so unpolished and choppy

[quick crow]

Fyi sad fact, the cartoony artsyle was planned before the first prototype.

[quartz sequoia]

theres footage of the build at daytime

how is that sad

it fits perfectly with the first game's story

[dim prawn]

not really, the old alphas look more like crappy itch.io games to me

[quick crow]

Thats your opinion and I respect that.

[dim prawn]

yours too

im going now

bye

[chrome frigate]

Neighbor can't even get up to 2nd floor💔

[quick crow]

Anyways back to hn3 discussion before we all get nuked for talking about hn1

[quartz sequoia]

not in alpha 3 atleast

[chrome frigate]

Bro

[quick crow]

yall discuss hn3 before we get nuked

What do you guys think of this image from the old hn3 steam page? Do you guys think this was taken from ingame OR a render?

[chrome frigate]

Possibly render

[quick crow]

I think it was a render made in unreal engine, since you can actually make short films and movies in it.

[chrome frigate]

Even the sky looks a bit different

[quartz sequoia]

also I doubt that considering based on the fact that Nikita has more control over the game than previous installments

[quick crow]

True

What do you guys think will be added in alpha 1 of hn3?

[quartz sequoia]

render there's no way this could've already been done ingame if this was before prototype 1

[quartz sequoia]

a bigger Mayak building

[quick crow]

I think polished textures for objects personally

[chrome frigate]

Different mc

[quartz sequoia]

huh

[quick crow]

I think nikita said alma is the final mc or smth?

idk

Im back I just realised I can pick my name color-

[chrome frigate]

Nice colour

[quick crow]

thanks

Anyways I also think a new polished ai system might be added in hn3 alpha 1 aswell

[chrome frigate]

Yeah

[quick crow]

Despite what the pre alpha dev log says the ai in this build are very random with their routine

The only thing I managed to confirm is that signed will watch tv in the cinema at the start of the game

Janusz will cry at his bakery front steps in the morning then in the middle of the day he goes to the supermarket to work

[chrome frigate]

Janusz should be mc

Trust

[quick crow]

I think hes fine as an npc in my personal opinion

wouldnt make sense story wise for him to be the mc

I think iris would be a good mc

[chrome frigate]

No

Idk maybe I'm not used to female mc in hello neighbor

Or the idea is just not good

[quick crow]

managed to change alma to be iris

since you like janusz as an mc too ill try make alma become him

Nvm not possible it makes alma become squished

[chrome frigate]

Lol

[quick crow]

Got it working!

Jacob too!

[gleaming acorn]

we JUST got almira after they teased her for like 30 years why would they up n replace her

[loud canyon]

youve lost your mind

alma will stay the main character

[chrome frigate]

Nah dw

[chrome frigate]

Who decided that?

[quartz sequoia]

do you just not like women

[loud canyon]

Nikita

[chrome frigate]

No

[loud canyon]

the creator of the dang game dude

[chrome frigate]

When

[rigid jasper]

wait does anyone have the raw texture for the golden apple amusement park tragedy newspaper from museum

[loud canyon]

im not arguing about this, do the research yourself

[chrome frigate]

I'm not arguing

Dw

[loud canyon]

youre setting yourself up for disappointment if you geniunely believe we will be playing as a different character other than Almira Hoffman

[rigid jasper]

cmon guys split it up nikita hasnt outright confirmed it but it is very unlikely mc will change

[chrome frigate]

Take wisdom from that guy

[loud canyon]

Nikita did say a lot of aspects of pre alpha will stay in the game, this includes the characters

he also said the story of pre alpha wont change either

just be improved upon

[chrome frigate]

Proof?

[loud canyon]

you want me to go out of my way to prove the most obvious of facts

to prove you wrong publicly?

[chrome frigate]

Yes

[loud canyon]

or do you wanna just search it up yourself

[rigid jasper]

chill the hell out yall

[loud canyon]

ok well

ill do it then

[chrome frigate]

I'm chill

[quick crow]

While you guys are arguing over that, I managed to make iris the mc.

[chrome frigate]

Imma start an argument with you

Jk

[rigid jasper]

protect isaac simulator

[quick crow]

LOL

[loud canyon]

have fun doing the cinema objective on loop forever

[quick crow]

I-

NOOOO

Guys lowkey should I make signed the mc?

[loud canyon]

its the only way to save Jacob to be fair

[loud canyon]

if it was me id be doing theodore

[quick crow]

I tried that and it looks really weird let me show u lol

[chrome frigate]

Seems

Similar to a certain image

[loud canyon]

good lord

[quick crow]

lets NOT

[chrome frigate]

Nah

Tuna sandwich should be mc

[rigid jasper]

10000 milks lookin

[quartz sequoia]

huh

[quartz sequoia]

are you misogynistic

[chrome frigate]

What is misogynistic

No

But I think Jacob is better

[quartz sequoia]

why

[chrome frigate]

He just is

By design

[loud canyon]

when you actively dislike women

[chrome frigate]

And i just think he fits more

[chrome frigate]

I googled it dw

[loud canyon]

Jacob does not fit the current story of HN3 as the story focuses on a vice president of the golden apple corporation

Jacob is a mechanic not a corporation employee

[chrome frigate]

I meant like as in before

In the prototype

[loud canyon]

he was always a placeholder

never meant to stay

playing as Jacob imo would be less interesting than the current game

[chrome frigate]

Why

[loud canyon]

because Jacob was aimed to be a character we interact with not play as

[next marsh]

Are these screenshots any good?

[flat tinsel]

they're amazing

[next marsh]

It just proves how this artstyle is great

[flat tinsel]

fr

[quartz sequoia]

@loud canyon

[loud canyon]

heck yah they are!!

ive taken a few handsome screenshots myself as well

[untold grotto]

its in-engine screenshots

[celest plank]

torturing jacob

[near hawk]

As everyone should

[celest plank]

not even feeding him to guest cause it'd be way too quick of a death for him

[quick crow]

WOW, HOW DID YOU CAPTURE THE FOG AND RAIN LIKE THAT?

[quick crow]

jacob in pre alpha is so annoying

[celest plank]

i mean just give him quantum rider

he's gonna be chill

also did i just see the guest despan

despawn

why did he do that

[crude ravine]

Give an screwdriver and be friends

[grim lark]

We are bringing back Reset Day

[exotic pewter]

HN3 feels so hard bruh

like, I cant seem to get around the neighbors, they always catch me

signed in cinema, covered in cable car, historian in museum

I just cant seem to get around these three

[gentle pebble]

Just knock them out

You will have like 15 seconds

[random shell]

It’s not that hard there’s always another path

[eager glade]

its easier if u just crouch

theyll hear u if u run

signedmostly upstairs anyway so

[light tapir]

nikita you have to the ui improvement someone suggested in the hn3-pre-alpha-feedback

its honestly peak

[gleaming acorn]

be friends with them! friendly friends are always friendly!

forcefeed them until they like you!

[light tapir]

what do you guys believe is the appropriate time length for the final version of hn3

[celest plank]

or just kill them/feed them to guest/torture them the entire session

[gleaming acorn]

that's rather rude

[trim trout]

If you’re trying to 200 pump, the historian knock her out, then bring her deep in the forest and run away and make sure you don’t get caught by the guest

[loud phoenix]

Lot of bugs on this one 😭

[potent flax]

so guys i have a idea

for what the devs need to do to improve hello neighbor 3

and the reason is to decrease the time on the day and night cycle in the game cuz, every second changes and like every 1 secs means one min in the game, but to fix they they should increase it from 1 sec to 10 secs to 15 secs for the player to get more time with it

[broken galleon]

well yeah pre alpha

[light tapir]

nikita see the ui someone made in hn3-pre-alpha-feedback

[severe merlin]

I did! Interesting approach!
What is interesting is that I am literally working on full proper UI overhaul this very moment 🙂

[chilly sundial]

By the way, Nikita, there will be an alpha 1

[tall sorrel]

https://tenor.com/view/principal-skinner-yes-seymour-skinner-the-simpsons-enthusiastic-yes-gif-15806751

[versed ravine]

I'm hoping it's as stylised as the rest of the game! Are there any plans to parent the objects to Alma's hands in the near future or is that being saved until you have most of the items in the game?

[tall sorrel]

we probably won't just jump to beta so yeah

[chilly sundial]

👍

[crude ravine]

pre alpha = next version is alpha

[chilly sundial]

No

[crude ravine]

pre alpha

[chilly sundial]

@crude ravine then comes alpha 1

[crude ravine]

yep

[civic totem]

It's obvious that the next build will be a Pre-Alpha

Oh

I mean Alpha 1

BRUH

[chilly sundial]

Yes

[bronze steppe]

lul

[half charm]

Guys sorry if someones asked this already but does anyone know what the engine inside the hut in the middle of nowhere does

I turned it off but idk what it cuts power to

[mellow garden]

Btw,the neighbor loves crowbars

[loud canyon]

I'm pretty sure that's just the whole towns power supply but I could be wrong

[half charm]

oh damn

[cobalt burrow]

whats up guys, i've been a big fan of HN series since i was a kid, now i have gathered myself enough time to test prototypes of HN3 and Pre-alpha version of it. I am delighted to see the graphics , weather , playstyle of this new version, but I had one question in my mind, will this game have same puzzle's as HN2 or no?

[untold grotto]

wdym with same puzzles

[cobalt burrow]

for example , we had to go to different places after each puzzle and also like we had to go inside one building to get items and to move onto next location

sorry if my questions seem wrong, English is not my first language

[light tapir]

hope it does

like codes keys and stuff

[summer radish]

Yoo

[crude ravine]

Almost everyone's main language is not english

Dont mind

[summer radish]

Yeah mine too

[crude ravine]

There will be not puzzles also

Bc nikita want exploring

[loud canyon]

Mine is!

[crude ravine]

Doesnt want boring gameplay with puzzles (we saw how puzzles make boring gameplay in poppy playtime and fnaf)

[crude ravine]

Me too

[near hawk]

I think she said that their main language is english

That's how i read it at least.

[crude ravine]

How u understood like this idk

[mighty orchid]

I only know American English cause that British language is hard to understand

[crude ravine]

Isnt american and british english almost same?

[near hawk]

I actually know british english better.

[untold grotto]

i think in writing mostly same but different as a spoken language

[mighty orchid]

Yes I’m just mostly joking

Few words are different or something

[crude ravine]

I know only neighbour, behaviour and colour in american english

[cobalt burrow]

thats cool and new

btw if i may ask why did they change from humans to un-humanlike

especially the neighbour

[near hawk]

For uncanny atmosphere

[cobalt burrow]

cool

[crude ravine]

Wait a min

[near hawk]

It's just stylistic choice really

[cobalt burrow]

i get it

does not effect the gameplay

[crude ravine]

Nikita's explain

As I said before, there's a difference between the art style and its purpose and narrative. Psychonauts seems bizarre in its attempt to make the player feel the surreal nature of the human subconscious (where much of the game takes place). Yet the characters appear "normal" in relation to each other.

The HN3 characters are designed this way to reflect feelings of melancholy, fading memories, etc. But they also appear normal compared to each other.

[cobalt burrow]

exactly

very fair point

[crude ravine]

This is just another nikita's masterpiece

[cobalt burrow]

agreed

[floral kettle]

Is there any explanation for this tho?

[untold grotto]

its a metaphor, in the case of HN3

[spring grove]

i actually just had this thought in pre alpha chat but maybe the cult is just people who think they can change luck when they actually can't

[floral kettle]

No?! You can’t just say that people dying in raven brooks is a metaphor

[spring grove]

one thing goes wrong after they do a ritual and suddenly they think they are actually making a change

[near hawk]

People dying may not be metaphorical but the concept of the cult changing luck with devices and coins and whatever can still be.

[floral kettle]

Even if that was the case, those accidents aren’t normal anyways someone or something is still doing this

[celest plank]

get the hell out lolo

[near hawk]

Plus it just so happens that these rituals take place whenever it's a storm.
Very convenient for bad things to happen.

[floral kettle]

Also correct me but isn’t the cult targeting specific people too?

[near hawk]

In the books i'm pretty sure their devices are supposed to give general bad luck to people in Raven Brooks that don't have a device.
For cartoon it can be different since the bad luck coins are given to specific people

[floral kettle]

Yeah I really don’t think like normal coins can manipulate fate

[near hawk]

Also wait i just realised Peterson family has bad stuff happening to them all outside of Raven Brooks too.
Despite the fact that devices should only affect Raven Brooks
Norman even said "not all misfortune is mystical" when Aaron and Mya asked about their tragedies outside of Raven Brooks iirc.

[near hawk]

Well the coins could still very easily be metaphorical.

In fact i would argue most of wtrb is much more easy to count as a metaphor than the books stuff.

[floral kettle]

That’s the thing, it would be a metaphor if it didn’t worked they still kill those specific people

[near hawk]

With the coins we even see the cult manually sabotage the park for example, or how one cultist was around Trinity's house when it exploded.

[floral kettle]

Yeah, I am starting to think AS Guest might be doing that

[floral kettle]

The very first death in the AS was a crow pushing someone to a truck

That’s not normal

[near hawk]

So it may be a case of the people thinking the coins bring bad luck when in reality it is something else.

[near hawk]

A crow being able to carry an adult that much is pretty fantastical by itself.
That's probably due to how it is a cartoon, stuff is bound to be exagerated.
Also i just realised this isn't #hello-neighbor

[orchid gazelle]

is there a way to befriend the historian

so she doesnt kill me all the time